Wolves boss hits out after appeal of Nenad Milijas’ red card at Arsenal fails
Friday 30th December 2011, 10:00AM GMT.
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Wolves boss Mick McCarthy today hit out at the Football Association for rejecting Wolves’ appeal over Nenad Milijas’ red card at Arsenal.
The club had hoped video evidence would see Milijas’ dismissal, which came in Tuesday’s 1-1 draw at the Emirates, rescinded by the FA’s appeals panel at yesterday’s hearing.
But the governing body upheld the decision of referee Stuart Attwell to dismiss Milijas for serious foul play.
The midfielder now serves a three-game ban, missing the Premier League fixtures against Bolton tomorrow and Chelsea on Monday and the FA Cup third round tie with Birmingham.
McCarthy was so disappointed that he spent 20 minutes showing the media footage of the incident at his press conference today and asking opinions.
He said: “The situation should not have been compounded by a wrong decision to uphold a three-match ban.
“Maybe because Stuart Attwell had got one of his red cards rescinded a few weeks earlier had an effect, but I would like to think not.”
The fact Alex Song was only booked for two what could be deemed more serious offences during the game could not form part of the evidence.
The FA insist any comparison with Wayne Rooney’s sending off for kicking out at an opponent, which saw him suspended for two England games following their appeal, is unfair because there are no set guidelines on the number of games he faced being banned for under the UEFA system.
Wolves secretary Richard Skirrow said: “We are hugely disappointed with the ruling. From the video evidence of that challenge alone, we strongly believed we had very good grounds for appeal.
“This was an opinion that seemed to be shared by a lot of people who viewed the incident. Our view that the dismissal and three-match ban would be hugely disproportionate to the alleged offence was further reinforced by other incidents in the game.
“However, despite highlighting the inconsistency and harshness of Nenad’s dismissal, we have been told that it was not deemed to be an obvious and serious error and, therefore, the original decision and resulting punishment stands.
“In our view it was certainly not serious foul play. Prior to Tuesday, Nenad had only six cautions in English football and no suspensions. Likewise, as a club, we are not serial appealers of red cards.
“In fact, on further reflection, ‘disappointed’ doesn’t seem to do justice to the feelings of everyone at the club on hearing this decision.”
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I wonder how long it will be before a club takes the FA to an external court over these kind of decisions? After all football is a business and these kind of decisions can cost clubs points which in turn can lead to relegation and in turn cost the club losing millions in revenue.
Funny how the FA jumped all over FIFA for unfairly not giving England the World Cup yet time after time we see unfair decisions handed out by the FA in their own backyard.
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Remember Alan Sugar a few years ago ? When he became chairman of Spurs to took FA to the High Court and wiped the floor with them. So why don’t Wolves do it this time. FACT – The FA are wrong. At best they are closing ranks to protect an incompetent referee. We are fighting for survival and should not be victimised in this way. Time for Steve Morgan to step in and do the necessary if he has a passion for this club.
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If this had been one of the FA’s underachieving golden boys, I bet it would have been wiped off the board! Even UEFA deem violent conduct to only be 2 matches at the FA’s appeal!
As we are classed as a minnow, we have seen since being back in the top flight that referees and the so called ‘big boys’ try and put us back where they think we belong!
One rule for us and one rule for everyone else? Let’s use this to our advantage…
WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What an insipid response to the FA’s obvious bias and support of a serial offending ref. Come on WWFC make a real meal of this and kick up a fuss – get the offence replayed on every TV channel and get on the air waves. Highlight the injustice! This was never a sending off offence and barely rasises the qestion of a yellow card.
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Sweet FA
One rule for the man utd’s, Chelsea’s, arsenals another for the non glamour clubs!!!
This decision stinks of double standards, every decent pundit, press and radio commentator said the tackle did not deserve a booking let alone a red card.
I would love to know who the 3 man FA panel were, and if Attwell admitted his mistake……..
wolves til I die
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This is just further proof of the one rule for the top clubs another for the also rans.
The original decision was a mistake by an inexperienced referee being press ganged into a knee jerk reaction by Arsenal players and partisan crowd, the decision by the FA is nothing short of disgraceful but oh so typical.
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The way the FA deal with clubs outside the top six I’m surprised there hasn’t been, looking at the accompanying photo, a retrospective penalty for Karl Henry “grabbing” an opponent’s throat. Why hasn’t the FA ever been charged with bringing the name of the game into disrepute?
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OK let’s get some perspective. The fact that Song had just got away with a definite red card offence (if not two) is irrelevant. The appeal over Rooney to UEFA was bound to look like double standards, but the appeal was against the length of ban and not the decision, a straight red for ‘violent conduct’ is a statutory 3 game ban in England so not a fair comparison. The big club comparison does not really stand up when Salmon’s red gets rescinded at the same meeting.
However the decision was wrong, and everyone knows it was wrong, so the FA just make themselves look like idiots. My only worry is that we should have gone armed with videos of tackles like Jack Rodwell’s rather than dragged irrelevant issues in – maybe we did, but that’s not how it sounds. Maybe Mr Skirrow can clarify this at some point?
Either way Ithink we all know the appropriate song for the first 5 mins at the Reebok.
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Double standards yet again!!!!! Is the FA just biased against any club outside of “The Big Six”?
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Seems a case of double-standard,one for the big four and one for the rest.I guess it is a case also of a bigger voice.
If that is what is being perceived the world-over then it does generate a sour taste and does not promote well the Premier League.
UTW
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Would really like to know who was on the appeals panel?
Still bemused and angry this morning.
Ironic that on the same day of such an injustice Mr Henry and his basketball hands re-signs for Arsenal.
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The FA are an absolute shambles. Milijas won the ball with the one foot he went in with but the Ref did nothing about Song kicking out twice infront of him. Connor Sammon had his over-turned? Jack Rodwells was worse V Liverpool and had his over-turned?
The FA fly Wayne Rooney (who is a repeat offender of violent conduct) abroad to get his 3 game ban reduced to 2 for kicking out?
Superb performance V Arsenal and I think its time for Guerdioura to come in and prove himself.
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Disgraceful and farcical! From Sepp Blatter down football seems to be controlled by clowns answerable to nobody.
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Typical ..big clubs influencing the Referees once again…
:-[ …..
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Beyond belief that the morons in the FA could dismiss the appeal. I’m not a Wolves supporter but do prefer fair play. Support the clubs down south ignore those up North except of course those that have a manager who have a voluble mouth on them. Is there a body who examines a referee’s handling of the game. If so this idiot needs a training schedule soon.
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I only hope that Arteta is proud of himself!! Arsenal are a team of divers & cheats, for all their obvious technical qualities, I think they are very physical & seem to get away with some terrible hard tackling & obvious attempts to fool referees. I used to admire them but not any longer!
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I think wolves should take this matter to high court, because there was No way that was sending off, he made decent tackle. If his was tackle was sending off then Alex song should be has well. He two tackle which look to me sending off, but not to be. I am very annoyed with FA panel.Come on Mr Morgan lets kick some fuss.. UPTW!!
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what about if we had lost that game going down to 10 men? wigan have had sammon’s overturned but they still went down to 10 men in the game and lost it. even if these red cards get rescinded it sill means that an injustice has taken place as it is a disadvantage to the team. song’s assault on fletch and jarvo was a disgrace. LETS SEE THE FA GIVE A RETROSPECTIVE RED CARD!! oh i forgot Arsenal is a big club.
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Laughable decision, presumably to throw their arms around their referee ‘golden boy’, so as not to let him drop down the divisions permanently. The Rodwell precedent was as clear as daylight, goes to ground, slides in, wins the ball, momentum carries one foot along the floor to the opponents ankle, fells him, looks worse than it is, red card overturned. There will be 10 tackles like it tomorrow, none of which will be whisteld for. Abysmal hypocrisy.
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I wonder?
Possibly a foul, maybe a yellow card, definitely not a straight red and definitely worth an appeal. Referees are human beings and we all make mistakes, decision should have been over turned.
The Football Association is no better than UEFA, both are governed by idiots who have massive egos and get off by believing they are important.
Is this decision payback to Wolves for contesting the FA,s decision regarding playing a so called weak side against Man United and then questioning the FA’s decision not to punish Blackpool last season when Ian Holloway threatened to resign if Blackpool were punished?
Lets face facts the people on the FA are pathetic to the point that their decisions are inconsistent, all we as football fans want is consistent decisions.
Lets get some ex footballers on the FA at least they understand the game.
Merry Christmas to everyone, it’s circus time and the FA has all of the clowns.
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As usual the FA protect the top teams
Thats where they get the money from with sky coverage etc
They don’t care about any team outside the top six!
This has been going on for years and no one does anything because football has to be the most corrupt business going from the FA to UEFA they are all as bad as each other!
They keep the refs happy and the refs look after there interest that’s the way it’s been and the way it will carry on
Trevb
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once again the samll club has come away with nothing when are the F.A going to realise there are more than 6 clubs in this league and treat every player of every club with the same respect..talk about blatent blindness of the lower clubs….
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What did we really expect if Mick didn’t give out new handbags or million pound academies to rich n twisted FA
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what does it matter if its not a serioud or obvious error. If its a wrong decision, its a wrong decision. Its a poor system that benefits the bigger clubs. Gutted for Miljas as I think a run of games could have seen him regain top form.
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It’s an absolute disgrace, it wasn’t even worthy of a yellow card. The FA protecting their own incompetent officials yet again.
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This is for all those ‘Mick-ophants’,(I should really change that to Bruno-ophants), on here,especially the likes of ‘Noisy’, (I know where you drink, what a pathetic moniker too boot), Sir Billy Bullsh*t (even worse)Johnwolf,Fenceguard,Realist, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ; Jackasses
What do Mick McC, sorry, I mean ‘Bruno’ and Tony B-Liar have in common? A past nickname of ‘MIRANDA’;Does anyone want to hazard a guess why? Well, if you know your solar system and what moons orbit what planets,( I know, Saturn has 63, Jupiter nearly as many), well you’ve all sniggered at the planet ‘Uranus’, well as Miranda is in orbit of Uranus it could be said that someone nick-named Miranda is always circling Uranus! tee hee hee
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I think one of the reasons the Red Card wasn’t rescinded, is because Wolves managed to hang on for the draw.However the fact he’s not available for the next 3 matches still sucks!
In my opinion it’s all about Money,the Big Money clubs & the “Old Boys” network.
If there was any justice,Woodgate would have got sent off Vs Stoke too,ditto Song for his 2 “tackles” in less than 3 seconds.
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its the typical FA that they upheld our red card but scrap wigan’s player red card for a typical rubbish decision when the ref got it wrong again. I just think the FA dont like wolves at all they have given us nothing. does anyone think cahill will play now as the deal looks like going threw with chelsea?
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A decision that is an utter disgrace to “EQUALITY”!
Mistakes are made but mistakes as blatant as this can be rectified.
Wolves really should not have even appealed against the decision,the decision should have been overturned!
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We are Wolves, did any one really expect us to get any sort of justice or decision in our favour, come on, wakey wakey, christmas is nearing the end and so are the miracles, and against Arsenal, the refs have to give them a chance.
UP THE WOLVES……
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Anyone rememebr the Fabregas assualt on Stephen Ward at Molinuex last season AND NOT EVEN A YELLOW CARD. This stinks. All through the match Arsenal were diving and whingeing around the referee. I’m just glad they didn’t get a winner. We seem to be on the wrong end of decisions all the time. Maybe it’s time we started diving and moaning and conning like everyone else. Up the Wolves.
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1. Milijas’ red should have been rescinded. 2. Attwell should be punished for not sending off Song. 3. Arteta should be punished for obviously feigning injury (holding the wrong part of his leg). 4. Arsenal should be fined for failing to control their players as they surrounded Attwell demanding a red card.
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we all no why they upheld it the fact that cahill got sent off the week before lets think who the ref was erm …. attwell there defending a ref who gave a goal when the ball didnt even go no where near the goal n in another match where sears (spelling) from WHU while on loan at palace scored the ball hit the bar inside the goal n he played on he is useless i think a 5year old could do a better job he should never ref again n i agree the FA are useless just gives chelski a chance to batter us hopefully not though
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Surprised that Walter Wall or as he has now become Wally Wall, has’nt posted on here yet.
Must have blown his computer up after writing on here so much.
If a similar incident happens in any game between now and the end of the season and a sending off get’s turned around. Then the club should cause such a stink to the idiot’s at the FA.
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What an absolute disgrace…..enough said !!
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let s try and be fair to stuart attwell..he did not have the benefit of tv camera angles and may have had a restricted view..if so my understanding is that he should not have given the free kick in the first place..what was the assistant s contribution!! This has happened several times..refs giving decisions based on things they havent seen.. Also the unwillingness to disallow other decisions made in the game is surely unreasonable and can have no legal merit ..as each decision is supposedly underpinned by a specific law of the game..these laws apply to all players at all times..so comparison with Song s actions are surely not only reasonable but a legal imperative to ensure fairness and the equitable administering of the laws of the game.. This would surely not happen in a court of law where “serious foul play” would be judged against a set of strict criteria applicable to ALL …
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When i posted earlier Wally Wall’s comment was’nt on here. When i submit my comment up his crops. Typical!!!
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that should read “an unwillingness to allow consideration of other decisions” of course…apologies
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Very disappointing news on losing the appeal and IMO Wolves should take this further.
I also hope that Attwell admits to getting it wrong. Knowing through my own reffing experience (clearly not at such a high level though!!), it is very easy to make a mistake as he did – for whatever reason. However, as he is able to see his mistake on replays, he should firstly apologise and if possible also offer support to Wolves’ appeal and see if the FA will rethink…..doubt any of that will happen though.
16 steviewolf – very much with you on your comments. I too, used to like Arsenal for how they played, but over the years they have turned into just a bunch of diving cheats. You also only have to look at their own disciplinary record, to see how they have changed in other ways over the years.
Anyway, with all that aside, I am feeling lucky for tomorrow and think we will beat Bolton 2-1.
WE ARE WOLVES!!!
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26 WW – nice effort, just when I thought you couldn’t make yourself look more of an idiot you excelled yourself – happy New Year. Let me just check again, you don’t like people who just post abuse and have no logical argument, was that right?
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Golden Wonder, your far to good to be wasting your wit on here, old timer; You should form a Thespian group with Noisy,Sir Billy Bonkers,Creosote(sorry,I mean of course fenceguard),Surrealist and all the other pantomime dames on her; ‘Bruno’ can play the Prim a dona, with Steve M and Jez M the pantomime horse, (mind you, that would be one with two ars*holes); Hi ho Silver away!
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I’m sure that Roger Johnson’s comments in the national daily’s on the morning of the appeal asking Attwell to “admit he was wrong” helped towards this decision not to overturn it.
I agree it’s a wrong call by the FA but Johnson’s comments hardly helped our cause.
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Colin Peppiatt – I dont think the ref should be punnished. He made a few mistakes, but was clearly influenced by allot of play acting, as do all referees. They are bound to make mistakes, its just a shame that the FA refuse to do anything about the mistakes unless it benefits the top 6. As others have pointed out, I just want some consistency in the rulings.
I also think a rule should be brought in to stop the play acting by certain players. A simple rule should be, if your rolling around in agony, you have to stay off the pitch for at least 2 minutes, when play has started again, not just run straight back on. That way, players not injured wont roll around, and players that are, can actually get the treatment they need, or be subbed. anyone with half a brain cell can tell that if a player is rolling around screaming in agony, they arent just going to get up and run around straight away as soon as the ref blows for a foul.
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Everyone apart from the FA seems to think Attwell made a mistake (one of a great many) sending off Nenad with a straight red.
The ref got it wrong in the heat of the moment, I would like to think he will improve over time as he gains experience, but only if he admits to himself where he went wrong. Now the FA have turned round after having all the time in the world to look at it and said no, you got that one right son – carry on!
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i think i have counted right that is now 10 game changing decisions so far in the first 21 games that have gone against wolves……and zero in our favour!
10-0 to the corrupt refferees!
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Play Milijas against Bolton anyway, and stuff the FA. I`m going to write to my local MP after i`ve had a cup of tea…
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Really can’t see what everybody is getting so worked up about.
Referee on the day made his decision.
He does not have the benefit of replays, until after the event.
Basicaly Miljas miscontrolled the ball and then made a lunge with studs showing. it must have looked bad at the time.
Song tackle were a little on the blind side of the officials.
All this fuss about a player who has been a bit part player this season, would not get in if O hare was fit.
Good result, even if the stats of the game were appauling.
Bolton is a must win.
Chelsea 0 pts this year.
HNY
TAXI
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Absolute disgrace by FA. Still cannot understand, do this people on the panel understand a game of football how its played. What a shame!
Well
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What did Will Carling once famously say about Rugby’s governing body? I think the same fat baffoons have now moved into Lancaster gate!!!
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What amazes me is the fact that Aaron Ramsey’s reaction has gone unmentioned. He was the one who the loose ball went to and he was cussing Attwell for not playing the advantage, hardly the reaction of a player worried about a tackle on his team-mate, especially after what happened to Ramsey at Stoke last year?
Stuart Attwell is inept, proven by his bias towards Arsenal with the Song yellow card. The swing through Fletcher was enough for a red card for me, let alone the second one on Hunt!!
Utter disgrace!!
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I think it was Curly, Larry and Moe on the appeal board or it could have been Bungle, Zippy and George.
oh i think Bungle has turned up to post @ 49.
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Justice for Nenad Milijas.
Still photo CLEARLY shows Ned’s foot in contact with the ball, then green grass (space), then Arteta’s white boot. Same still photo shows Atwell’s view totally obstructed by one red & white guerrilla and one red & white gorilla.
Free the Serbian One.
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Why all the moaning? Isn’t it a proven fact that it was poor refereeing decisions that actually kept Wolves up last seaso
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The unjust decision to red card Milijas is then followed by the FA’s disgraceful decision to uphold it. Jeez, it’s a difficult enough job getting results at this level without having the FA chipping in with their biased rulings!
You know, sometimes I wonder why any fan, of any club outside of the top six, is so desperate to be part of the Premier League. It’s so unfair, so biased and so backstabbing in nature that it genuinely stinks.
This league isn’t about the wonderful game of football as we know and think of it. No, it’s merely legalised corruption that unashamedly masquerades as ‘sport’ in an era when there simply is no sportsmanship to be seen.
We wanted it. We got it. We must all be nuts.
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41. Wally……I thought you wore a red and white hooped top….not a blue & white striped one !!
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MM and all the other managers outside the top six should make a dossier of all the injustices and biases and present it to the FA together with a copy to the national press.
They should also at every opportunity accuse the referees of cheating at all interviews and also praise them when they have had a good game.
They will be fined but if they all do it and are then backed by their respective chairmen even to go as far as civil court to defend themselves with video evidence.
You would find that the FA would only need to lose a few cases and instructions would soon be issued to referees to ensure their decisions are fair.
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42 Andy, We live in a free country where everyone is entitled to free speech. I can well understand why both Johnson and Hunt have made public comments about this incident which may well have cost us a point and may well adversely effect our next 3 games. They should be allowed to offer their opinion without any worry that their comments might affect the FA’s decision and without threat or intimidation from the FA. The lesson the FA is sending is that it is perfectly ok to play act and get in the refs face to try and influence a vital decision, and that the ref is to be considered unaccountable for this.
I sincerely hope that the FA was not in any way influenced by critisism from anyone at Wolves in their decision over this. That truly would be appalling behavior.
However, we all know that if this had been judged purely on its own merits, the decision would have been overturned. THAT makes me wonder about these jokers…
They are not fit to run the game.
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Ridiculous decision…though Milijas should use the time off to improve his first touch and control.
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Wally Wall.
Maybe it is because i am getting older. Or maybe none of your comments make any sense.
Glad to see that your mommy bought you a book on the planets for Xmas. One day you might return to earth yourself.
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Am I the only one who saw it? Arse-nil player rolling around holding top of shin just under the knee, but Nenad took out his FOOT!!!
Ref shuld av gone to spec-savers as for the FA?
what do we expect? an unbaiased opinion? Fair play to all? This is football not a page in the Beano! Yes Wolves take them to court, just to hear the same old farts dish out the same rubbish at 300 quid an hour. PLEAAAASSSSEEEE get real!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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The Arsenal game cost us a midfielder for 3 matches, but the biggest victory has happened off the pitch… kudos to Jez: Frimpong is on his way and we have a top class midfielder for the rest of the season. #awesome
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Most of all the above is true so lets make the most of it on the terraces (throwback) Where it Counts…..Nobody likes us AND we dont care We are Wolves, back the lads tomorrow and Monday to the hilt NO QUESTION moan and groan all you want after on here it dosent matter the boys cant hear it
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We can scream and shout all we want about fair play but unfortunately it will not make one iota of difference. Don’t know about anybody else but I do not think refs going full time has made one bit of difference. As for the linesperson (politically correct version or even more humorous, assistant referee) Oh dear. There is not a conspiracy against less ranked clubs it just appears that way. Oh silly me fancy thinking otherwise. Despite that and more importantly we still need to win at Bolton to make up for the Stoke and Norwich etc etc shambles.
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The thing that got me was that Arteta was rolling over as though he was badly injured. (Holding just below his knee, whereas any injury received could only have been foot or ankle if Milijas’ foot had made contact.) Arsenal got a free kick for the “offence.” Who took the free-kick? You’ve guessed it…. Arteta.
(Incidentally, having played rugby at a high level, I have noticed that when someone has a real leg injury, there is little if any movement.)
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Get over it, stuff happens.
Up until a few weeks ago MM would not play him, so why all the stupid fuss.
Focus on delivering a win at Bolton… Get it.
UTW
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Time the Owner grew a couple and took the F.A to Court
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51) What are you on about you Tesco? Poor refereeing decisions last season ensured that we could have gone down on the last Sunday! Penalties should have been awarded for fouls on Jarvis at Spurs away and Newcastle at home… fact. Warnock should have been sent off at Wolves and crossed for the winner. Stearman scored a perfectly good goal against Spurs at home!
This season we had the two shocking decisions against Newcastle, the Woodgate sending off and another ex Arsenal cheat Larsson diving!
What is a joke is Taylor having a go at Hunt for stating the fact that Wolves are too nice a team. The facts are we have made the least tackles of any club in the top 4/5 leagues in Europe. With what happened to Milijas we are going to be wary of making another, I suggest. Totally wrong and corrupt!
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Brummiewolves – my point is we (ie those outside the big 6) have all been on the receiving end of these decisions. We can’t buy a penalty this season (Bolton, Arsenal, Wolves, Spurs x 3) yet innocuous situations in our box have resulted in pens against. We’ve got on with it and off our own back have 22 points.
I can think of several situations where Wolves have been fortuitous, especially the BCD at the Hawthorns. The bottom line is, Wolves haven’t been good enough. End of.
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Gutted. No point taking it to court – none of those crusty old f*rts will have kicked a ball in their lives either. Time to shake up this out-of-touch old-boys-club that is the FA and replace it with respected individuals who have walked a mile in the shoes of today’s players. Bring in video replays, bring in refereeing league tables, that’s what I say. Make the players accountable for their actions and make them realise they can be punished after the fact. That will cut down the likes of Arsenal crowding out the referee and diving all over the place to gain an unfair advantage. Bloody fuming, I am.
Have a nice year.
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