Time to map out a plan for Villa's future
- Says blogger Matthew Turvey
Wolves call off Ryan Bertrand chase
Monday 4th July 2011, 11:30AM BST.
Wolves have pulled the plug on a loan deal for Chelsea left-back Ryan Bertrand – as they closed in on Reading’s Matt Mills.
Bertrand is available on a season-long loan from the Stamford Bridge club – but only if clubs pay £500,000.
That was enough to persuade Wolves to look elsewhere in their search and they could now turn their attentions back to Hearts’ Lee Wallace, as they look to buy a young left-back rather than pay to take one on loan.
The 23-year-old is regarded as the best left-back in Scotland and Wolves have scouted him before.
Wallace, who has five caps for Scotland, only has a year left on his contract which means they could get their man on the cheap.
Rangers recently had a £300,000 bid rejected as ‘derisory’ for a player who has made 140 appearances for the Jambos.
Bertrand, 21, could now go on loan to Premier League new-boys Swansea.
McCarthy is keen on Paul Konchesky, but, although Liverpool are desperate to offload him, the former Fulham player’s £37,000-a-week wages combined with the likely £2illionm fee make a deal highly unlikely.
But the club are inching closer to agreement in the Mills deal.
Sources claim the 24-year-old is coming to Molineux, with the central defender keen to test himself in the Premier League. But a fee still has to be agreed.
Providing that happens, personal terms shouldn’t present a hitch, leaving Mills to join his new team-mates at some stage of their week-long pre-season training camp in Dublin.
The players flew there this afternoon.
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good move by wolves. half a million quid to ‘borrow’ somebody for a season? madness…
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There are worrying signs here.
We need two or three experienced Premier League players to blend in with the young and hungry.
We all know that there are key areas that need strengthening, as they have for the last two years.
Let’s make sure we do it this time.
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Would love lee wallace here as i rate him highly, but i think there is a risk there as he’s unproven especially as that scottish league is like league 1, with a couple of championships and two teams that would struggle in the premier, i’d rather get koncheskey who is proven premier. Also i thought koncheskey was willing to take a pay cut, thats what this paper reported anyway
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Get ready for the moaners now!! Lack of ambition, buying second rate players.
Look at it this way, Wallace is rated quite highly and it would be more money to get another CH like Bassong!!
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Lee Wallace is a good shout, we need a young and hungry (and talented) left back to buy, not loan, he wont command a big fee or wages.
I would consider Danny Batth for centre back this season, Sheffield Wednesday fans were raving about him last season, and they want him back on loan. I would introduce him to the first team squad, and give him a chance gradually.
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I will ofcourse reserve judgement on Mills until i see him play but to me this is a same old same old wolves signing! on the cheap! and unproven at this level! why dont we ever learn?
we sign player after player like this.
after 2 years in prem the time is now to buy real proven quality to improve!
Unless Moxey & Morgan you enjoyed the final day of last season?
Dont want to moan but yet again we are missing out on good players due to silly penny pinching! i agree with not paying over the odds but cmon!!
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How much PROVEN premiership experience has the new keeper, mills and this harper got????
I think ive read previous comments from the 3 m’s wrong AGAIN.
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Wolves going for the cheapest option, Moxey out
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How much PROVEN experience do Johnson & Dann have?
1 very good season and half a decent one each.
Wallace from what I can gather seems highly rated and possibly right here right now is a better option than Bertrand.
Crowfish – who have we actually missed out thus far this summer?
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Mills and Wallace are both big yes’ for me along with a Evans/Johnson/Dann/Bassong. Hitzlesperger has to be worth a look on a free. If Doyle goes for £12m that must be reinvested on a top forward, Defoe?
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Steve Morgan said a few weeks ago that Wolves were prepared to break their transfer record once again. In my opinion this is what we must do with one big signing of a centre half – someone like Johnson at £8m? The problem is that I doubt whether we will spend more than £18m in total in the Summer. £5m has gone on O’Hara and Mills will be £4m and that leaves £9m in total? Wallace will be better than what we already have.
The slightly worrying thing is that the likes of Stoke are putting their money where their mouth is and looking at a £16m deal for Dann and Jerome. The latter is a waste of space but Dann is class!
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I could understand us going for these type of players(ie unproven in the premiership)if this was our first season in the top flight. But SURELY we can now afford to set our sights a little higher. There is a long way to go before the start of the season,and alot of clubs have yet to buy anyone of note either.Lets see how things pan out before we press the alarm button
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Who is Harper???
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Pull out of this, too expensive, etc, etc, all much the same as last two seasons, we are messing about again.
Doubt whether Mills will come.
Looks like the same team lining up for first games. so much promise and expecation to be let down again by the three M’s, one at least who should have gone at the end of the season.
Tick Tock!!!!!!!
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Mills is not the answer trust me! Championship standard at best, we really need to kick on next season, I just worry about the quality of players were looking at bringing in.
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Harper?? Have I misread something??
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Neymar for Wolves!
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I love the way everyone bangs on about prem experience. All PL experince does is add 10mil to the value! Everton took gambles on jagielka and lescott and cahill all of these players are not sort after in the premier league, Roger johnson and scott dann are 2 others that fit into that category and there are many more! I do think we need to sign some prem experince as well like either Bassong or Johnson but It would be nice to find a bargain aswell which I think matt mills could possibly be!
I also agree that 500,000 for a year long loan for a player with no experince in the prem is also rediculous so glad we’re not going for that deal although not sure Lee Wallace is the answer to our LB prayers
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I love the way everyone bangs on about prem experience. All PL experince does is add 10mil to the value! Everton took gambles on jagielka and lescott and cahill all of these players are sort after in the premier league, Roger johnson and scott dann are 2 others that fit into that category and there are many more! I do think we need to sign some prem experince as well like either Bassong or Johnson but It would be nice to find a bargain as well which I think matt mills could possibly be!
I also agree that 500,000 for a year long loan for a player with no experince in the prem is also rediculous so glad we’re not going for that deal although not sure Lee Wallace is the answer to our LB prayers
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Winslow what cloud do you float on?? DEFOE.
How much money do you think a player like him is on, and you reeeeeally think he would come to Wolves. If Doyle was sold it should be a lot more than Daily Mirrors stated £12 million judging on other clubs ridiculous pricing. Defoe would not be a realistic option but a Shane Long would be.
Doyle will not leave this summer anyway, UNLESS a proper offer was made – that would be a lot more than £12 Million.
Defoe……….For Gods Sake!!!!
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i heard that wolves might go in for addie mcgeady from spartan moscow we did say we wanted another quailty midfilder to go with ohara like to see bassong and johnson but be honest will they realy come to the wolves
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Guys looking at the hype going on around a few players, everyone wants Dann and Birmingham wanting a huge price for Johnson. No club has snapped the Blues pair up yet for a reason. If you think Evans and co are better than mills than God help us as most of the defenders we have been linked to lack pace big style.
Yes we need 2 centre halves with pace or we are back to square one.
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Sell Doyle for £12m,take the £5.5m profit and add it to the budget already allocated for this window and voila we are now looking at better players.Pull your finger out Moxey-it aint rocket science.
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18 or 19 chazadawolf, you are spot on.
Why do people have this obssesion with signing players with premier league experience? Maybe this was the case when we first got promoted, but 2 seasons on and we are still in the premier league.
So we now have a squad of players with up to 2 seasons premier league experience behind them. As long as the new signings are good enough, it matters not if they’ve played in the premier league before.
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numpties out in force today all these second rate players names being loosely mentioned, we dont want this rubbish at our great club, not one of who you mentioned could lace ‘never walk alones boots’…roll on 2 o’clock when all the numpties go back to bed until 10 o’clock tomorrow morning.
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18 -24 – Exatly, for all we know, the likes of Mills could be better than Johnson, at half the price and 4 years younger. Getting players out side the prem can be a risk sometimes, but at the end of the day the only players with prem experience who are going to want to come to us, arent exactly going to be world class, whereas picking out a few youngsters from lower leagues could possibly get us a real gem. Lets face it we arent going to climb the table too much buying average prem player just because they’ve been there a couple of season, but taking a chance on real quality from other leagues could potentially see us climb much higher. as chazadawolf said, look where everton are now spending peanuts of players outside the prem.
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9- tino…. well gardner is 1 if u want atleast 1 name! ……
and although they have not signed for anyone yet johnson, dann, koncheskey are some others! that enough for you? all in my book would improve us and are PROVEN premiership players!
let me know if you need anymore help getting up to speed with goings on at the club eh!?
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Calm down Dear…the Transfer window has just opened and clubs always ask over the odds when they first know you’re interested, Notice no one else has brought these overpriced defenders..
Mills is on his way with lots more to come, remember we have already spent 5k plus on O’Hara…
The new stand is way in front of schedule too and the future is Gold…
Patience is a virtue my father used to say…
How right he was!!…
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Out: Doyle, Hennessey In: Long, Cuellar, Collinson, Warnock, Given, Onohua
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If you want to look at the clubs who didn’t penny pinch just look at West Ham and Newcastle still paying 80k a week to players who can’t get in the first team and were relegated with them..
I know what Policy i would have…
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Dann & Johnson have no more “experience” than what we already have, and this magical defensive partnership already have 1 relegation to their name.
Gardner – did we really go in for him? I saw nothing official. and is he really a big loss considering we signed J O’H and for me it was always gonna be one or the other
Konchesky – pushing 30..big wages..confidence shot to pieces…didn’t exactly set The Championship alight at Forest…Would you like me to continue for you?
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cardiff, what you forget is that we now have a squad of 25 with Premiership experience…
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Well said Crowfish [both 6& 27].I keep saying it but the 3M`s are feeding us a load of lies once again.They are not after proven Premiereship players but are still after cheap,cheap cheap again.When will they learn.The money is there and I am not saying waste it but spend wisely on the right players,pay realistic money not bargain basement rubbish and we might get somewhere.Moxey should go because he will hold us back to heap praise upon himself,he has no interest or knowledge of football anyway.Come on Steve Morgan,show us you mean business instaed of talking.
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26 we very nearly got relegated last year with a team who try very hard but are not premiership quality (apart from Doyle ,Jarvis and O’Hara).I just dont think we can afford to take chances on Championship players who may or may not fit in.We have seen this all before with the likes of Milijas etc etc who needed half a season to get used to the pace of the premiership.We need to show a bit of ambition IMHO.
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Looks like the same old drivel coming from you again!
What a bore u are!!!
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Please Numpties take the opportunity of of pre season to look for another club to support.
Why keep putting yourself through this negativity every day???
Try the Blues, WBA, Villa or even Walsall surely they are better options than the mess the 3Ms have got us into??
3 seasons in the Premieship, ground re developments, a good young squad with growing Premiership experience, stable finance and a growing fan base.
I wonder how the 3Ms can sleep at night!!!
Numpties go away we have never needed you and never will.
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Let’s have a look at where we are with the squad then and who might/will go and stay and what we need:-
1)Hennessey 2)De Vries 3)Ikeme 4)Foley 5)Zubar 6)Craddock 7)Stearman 8)centre half? 9)centre half? 10)left back? 11)Elokobi 12)Hammill 13)Guedioura 14)Kightly 15)Henry 16)O’Hara 17)Edwards 18)centre midfield? 19)Milijas 20)Jarvis 21)Hunt 22)Ward 23)Fletcher 24)Doyle 25)SEB
Selling?? Berra Halford Keogh Vokes
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crowfish – Is it missing out on players when we are the ones pulling out of deals? If someone offerd you a house for £200k and you turned it down because you found a nicer house for £150k would you say you missed out on the 200k house? We arent prepared to spend £10 mill on the likes of Johnson, and rightly so in my oppinion, so we are looking elsewhere. Anyone would think the transfer market is taking place on ebay now.
All the names you mentioned have only been said by the express and star who know as much as we do about our transfer targets. For all we know we may not be interested in most the players the E&S link us with. I like it how you included Dann in the list to bolster it up even further, even though not even the E&S have linked us with a move for him. Lets add a few more on just to prove your point. Weve also missed out on Messi, Rooney, Drogba, Tevez, and a new manager in Villas-Boas, what are we playing at.
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I’m pleased we are not loaning Bertrand for £500k.He looked an average player in the Under 21 tournament. If we are considering a player of his age and experience, why are we not going to see Malone make the first team in the pre season friendlies ? (maybe we are) Why doesn’t the E&S talk to Wolves about the current youngsters like Malone, Batth, Winnall, Mendez-Laing etc etc, some of whom are being touted for loan deals to “gain experience”. Let’s get some inside information on whether this crop are going to make it before they reach the veteran stage.
23 Whilst I understand your sobriquet is to wind up Tesco visitors, I do not understand your post. Why sell Doyle (and it would have to be more than £12m IMO) and spend more on trying to replace him. ? However I’m sure Jez Moxey has made a note of your advice whilst Building a Rocket Ship Boys.
PS Does this Voila play up front for Paris Saint-Germaine ?
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Well said Sir Billy and lets wait and see what happens!!
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Like I keep saying, no half decent player will come to Molineux with that muppett in charge;, with his tactical ineptitude, ancient training methods, favouritism, ability to alienate good players, etc,etc,etc !
Let’s see if Doyle and Jarvis are still there in September, my info is they will be long gone and one or two of the other half decent players want out as well;
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26, are you telling me the likes of Henners, Fletch and Hunt etc are not premiership quality?
The 2nd season in the Prem is notoriously difficult. Where are the 2 clubs we got promoted with now?
We have a squad with premier league experience now, the policy of young and hungry works for us.
It’s not a fast track to mid table premier league status, its gradual growth. I will be happy with another 2pts (i.e.42) and a fouth season in the premier league as continued growth.
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oops, sorry 26, meant 34!!
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36 Sir Billy. I gather you are referring to our manic depressive 14 The Flying Whinger. As someone else said he’s a proper little ray of sunshine.
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I’d rather they spent money bringing in experienced players than rebuilding the ground. Lets get some attractive, entertaining football first.I dont want another season of crazy defending and late goals and no obvious leadership on the pitch. take care of the football that in turn will pack the stands out then look at rebuilding.
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Prem experience is worth nothing. Look at George trying to keep a pass on the pitch when passing down the line at Sunderland said all you need to know about Prem experience. Either the guy can play football or he can’t. Mick knows what he is doing. I would like better than we can afford but we will have to have what the rest don’t want to take a risk on. After all we finished bottom of the Prem last season and were very close to going down. I’m not sure many of the fans remember how close it was last season, I guess its history but if it was not for Hunt and Fletcher coming good we would be down.
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Transfer windows been open less than 4 days and already we have people in here having a go at each other over the clubs transfer policy. The time to argue and get upset (if at all) is after the transfer window has closed. No one commenting in this forum knows for sure who we are and are not bidding for, unless it has been confirmed by the club. Everything is just pure speculation, just everyone hold your horses until the window closes.
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Dont forget we need to off load some players as well.
Berra back Hearts,in swop for Wallace is a good start.From what ive seen of him in SPL,looks a really good full-back.
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Now will all the wingers on here stop ya gabbing. you lot keep banging on about prem proven players. what about West Ham the Blues the quality they had and still got relegated
the 3Ms will not pay over the value fees or be held to ransom to pay £500.000 for a loan player where the money could go towards a full signing makes perfectly good sense.
find another club to winge about we are one of the best or maybe the best run clubs in the country i for one are proud of the way our club is run.the future is loking good for the old gold and black.
U.T.W
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42 Teeswolf
Spot On.
44 Fozzy Bear
Why do the Numpties bother? it’s beyond my understanding……
UTW
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31 Tino
It was express and star itself that broke the gardner story stating he wanted to come to wolves and was ok with his wages being matched! then in come sunderland! if you dont think gardner is a better player than say henry, edwards etc then thats your opinion but open your eyes!
Johnson & dann agreed have the same prem experience as wat we have my point is they have proved they are BETTER! blues defensive record wasnt that bad, its the fact they could not scire that took them down!!
Koncheskey is proven at fulham as being a good lb! my point here is again, he is better than elokobi & ward!
jeeeez
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sorry wolfhead, but i have to agree with Crowfish.
If we serioulsy want to stay in this league and improve then our mentality has to change.
There is nothing wrong with being cost effective, but If your telling me that signing mills or wallace instead of an experienced full back like konchesky makes footballing sense then i disagree. All you are doing is just adding 2 inexperienced players to an already very leaky championship quality defence. How does this improve things? didnt we sign griffiths from scotland last season and i dont think he played a single game.
konchesky is a good full back. he had a tough season and only because of that we have a good chance of signing him.His prem experience imv would improve things.
It is worrying that apart from maybe USA,doyle who had some prem experience we continually look to sign players with no prem experience just from the championship or scotland. why dont we look abroad more?miljas,Guedioura and Zubar show it can be done.
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Of all defenders mentioned my bet would be Bassong, quality def..also maybe wallace can be the cheaper solution at LB instead of Konchesky(but has great experience). Although feel we could do with some older guys in the back four, Dunne would also be nice.
The last transfer would be another ncetral midfielder, would like a strong physical midfielder to compete with/replace Henry(maybe N’Daw)..we have great wuality on goalie and striker section, also midfield not too bad, but you all knew this already..
UTW
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here we are again slagging the 3 mmms will we ever learn that we are going in the right directionplease keep away
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43,Fletcher only played for half a season ,so did Hunt so I remain to be convinced. At this stage of his career I think Hennessey is a promising player and should develop into a good premiership player.So I named three players and you have named three,so am I right to assume we both agree the other five players are of championship quality? If so do you feel happy with that situation? So if we get 42 points this season and get relegated you would be happy? The fact is we did not progress last season we went backwards!The points tally is irrelevant.
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Would like to think,were in with a shout for Nedum Onuoha.
At 24,still think hes young enough to make it with England,as well has becoming top notch in the Prem.
To me hes a C/B.Bruce played him all over the place at Sunderland.
Think,City would let him go for £6 mill.
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55 No I don’t agree that the others are championship quality, they have earned the right to be called premier league players as they now enter their 3rd season in the league.
I am not sure how often 42pts has ended in relegation from the premier league, not often I would think, and I would expect with 42pts we will finish higher than last season, maybe even higher than 2009/2010 season.
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41. annie,ahh my tesco mucker, whats the matter are you upset with your new dogbog sponsor(lol), or are you still bitter about getting slapped by a team that finished below you and nearly got relegated????. UTW
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Come on chaps get the Mills deal done ASAP and stop any further messing about. Pay the £4 million as I strongly believe he’ll be worth at least twice that in a couple of seasons’ time.
Don’t know much about Wallace but if he is known as the best left back in Scotland get him on board. Obviously Konchesky is a non-starter.
Call me wildly optimistic but I don’t think we should give up on Dann either. I can’t see Stoke paying high wages and him and Mills would make one of the best young, central defensive pairings in the league.
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Just to let you all know little Kevin is not going anywhere.
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Lewis McGugan anyone for the midfield spot? Gets plenty of goals, not afraid to shoot and is great at set pieces. £3 million and no more than £15k a week could be ours, and with more potential than Big Girls’ Blouse Gardner.
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I KNOW NOTHIN
YOU KNOW NOTHIN
WE ALL KNOW NOTHIN
LETS JUST WAIT AND SEE YOU DELUDED FOOLS
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26 Kiwiwolfffffff
We did very well to get O’Hara for 5k! With the money we saved we should get Johnson for £10.000 and pay him minimum wage
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Seemingly its been Robin van Persie`s boyhood dream to play for Wolves,so if Wenger wants Doyle lets do a straight swop or give them an extra couple of quid on top.
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Pleased we are not going after the lad from Chelsea seen him play when he was on loan at Forest looked ok in the championship but dont think he’s ready for a full season in the premiership yet so glad we a going to waste half a mill on him like i have said b4 on here we should go for Warnock from the Villa and the lad from Hearts wouldnt bother looks ok in the scot prem league but then again Kevin Kyle looks a good player for Hearts and thats saying something in the end will just turn out to be like Berra and Wallace wants a move to Glasgow Rangers.And if we do finally sign Mills hope we are only going to pay 3 million cus dont think he’s worth anymore than that and i still think we should play Zubes at centre back wasnt that where we brought him to play and then Foley can go back and play at right back instead of midfield up the Wolves
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35, Must be the same old drivel coming out of the club again!
After what we have put up with for the last two season, it would be great to see some activity and really kick start the season from day one, with two new CB’S a LB, new Captain/Leader on the field.
We shall see!!
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Another little ray of sunshine take a bow Annie all we need now is for SheWolf to come back..
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i have faith in the 3m’s doing what’s best for the club. i also believe we’re moving slowly in the right direction. we aren’t gonna build a mid-table team overnight and keep the harmony in the group of players.
we should just sit back and wait to see who we sign as we may find a gem from championship or another league.
i’m not commenting on mills or wallace as i’ve not really seen much of them so would trust 3m’s judgement on these players.
most players are banging on about 2nd rate players from lower leagues but if it weren’t through the lower leagues we’d have never had Kightly & Jarvis and the few other players we found from there. it seems like there of lots of people on here that want us to do a Portsmouth and Newcastle by paying high fees and high wages and getting nowhere fast except backwards…
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There are some people on here questioning how good our squad of players are and whether they are good enough for the Premiership or the Championship? One thing for certain is that we have more than 3 players that are good enough! Everyone of them, of the first choice squad, have proved in at least a handful of games that they are good enough but ultimately it is down to consistency. I would say that Hennessey, Foley, Zubar, Jarvis, Hunt, O’Hara, Guedioura, Fletcher and Doyle are easily good enough. The remainder have big question marks over them but in the main have youth on their side eg Stearman, Hammill, Edwards, SEB etc.
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Sign Dunne and Johnson, install a dogged captain and Konchelsky at left back, flog Doyle for £ 12 mill and sign D J Campbell and Odemwingie with dosh and maybe get Keane on loan, get Ray Wilkins in as assistant manager and start pre-season.
Job done.
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Just a tad dissapointed that we have missed out on quailty players through our wage structure, i understand we have to balance the books but if we do not sign a quality exprienced defender we will struggle again at the back. For our third year at this level i feel we have to compare ourselves to Stoke a club look what they have achieved under a simular structure
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A couple of (actally three) points here guys.
1. Lee Wallace is no relation to Braveheart.
He doesn’t intend to sign for an English club to create havock in the English ranks!
He’s a promising left back. Go for him.
2. Mills is worth pursuing. £4 mill is reasonable.
3. Kevin Doyle. NO, don’t sell him at ANY price.
But, how can we stand in the way of a guy we respect, going to a club far above our capabilities? Good luck to Kevin whatever happens!
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i heard we might be going for addie mcgeady from sparto moscow to partner jamie ohara didnt we try and get mcgeady few years back hes irish as well
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While pondering a move for Lee Wallace, who would probably do a decent job for you, might I suggest you also consider another of our highly talented players, David Obua?
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Wowee…let’s get a whole new team eh? Sounds like what a lot of you want. We should get a first-choice LB and 2 CBs to cover for Berra and (eventually replace) Craddock………..and that’s it! Everyone else is good enough with enough experience to build the club into a steady Premiership team. Our entire midfield and strikeforce could not be expected to leave for any Championship club as they are Premiership players. Love the Wolves
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Read on Sky that Albion are in for Reo-Coker.
Just the sort of player who would add know-how to our squad, at no cost (other than a competetive wage) and a good age (28 generally considered a player’s peak?).
And presumably we’ve now lost interest in Robbie Keane who would probably be available for a fraction of the sum we allegedly offered circa 16 months ago? Past his peak, maybe; but recently scored his 50th International goal, and with a goal-ratio that Kevin Doyle could only dream about…
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Our performances and results over the last two seasons have illustrated that we are crying out for some genuine premier league experience at the back and in centre midfield. Mick’s naivety(and stubbornness) to only buy young players is what will prevent us from being truly competitive in the PL.
All the best teams have a good balance between youth and experience, and I think Mick is leaving our promising youngsters out to dry by not giving them the experienced help they need.
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Thai Wolf,Don’t you believe he is not related to William Wallace,Braveheart, at least according to Bill Shankly.I was told in the early 70′s of a Liverpool reserve on a free transfer signing for then 4th division Crewe.Shankly thought so much of the player that he personally drove him to Crewe to sign.As Shanks left he turned to the Crewe management and said”look after him,he has a special name”.Yes the kids surname was Wallace.Sadly he broke his leg and retired early.
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No.74 bush babbie-well said getting fed up of all the negativity that is coming out on here.
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Good policy Wolves.. Im confident that we will improve our squad from last year! 2 years experience from the current squad hat to stand us in good stead.. improve on that this year.. is a good plan! We arn’t lucky enough to have a billionaire.. like the so called big four. Mid table finish will do me fine. You get to the top by climing the ladder one wrung at a time.. can’t be wrong.. init!
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66 Sue – in a previous post you mention the Steve Kindon goal he scored & yes I was at that game too. But be honest how many other memorable moments can you recall from Steve? How many times did we see him bomb down the wing & forget how long the actual pitch was….we could never question his speed or appetite for the game, yet in the end just another average Joe. Had we signed Franny Lee how many more memories would you have locked away in the memory bank.
Chris Hoggard – you questioned the authenticy of George Best – if you read his book he most definitely had a trial at Wolves as a youngster but opted for Man Utd as did Duncan Edwards..
I wonder if the real reason for Wolves turning away this Bertrand deal apart from the 500k is because Chelsea still want to get their grubby money mitts on our Zeli….
I’m sure there are many discussions going on behind closed doors that we are unaware of & TBH it was so easy for Sunderland to steal a march on all Premier Clubs as they were cashed up from the sale of Darren Bent & Jordan Henderson to the tune of 38m…
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I keep seeing references to Doyle being sold – I hope they are instances of misplaced pessimism being vented. His departure would make no financial or footballing sense to me.
As for charges of penny pinching by the 3M’s, surely it’s called prudence in normal business language and an excellent policy to follow for any organisation working to a long-term strategy. It might be boring at times, but I’d sooner be bored than broke and awaiting the receivers!
Anyway, there’s plenty of time for a couple of new faces to appear at Molineux before the season starts,(Mills may be one of them) and whilst I feel anxious as a result of the close call last season I am still optimistic about 2011/12.
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The big worrying news coming out of the club this week is that they have taken Keogh with them on the Irish training camp.
I hope this is due to him being an affable chap, (obiviously unlike ‘the hoff’ & Halford)& not that he is in McCarthy’s plans for the forthcoming season.
Don’t want to see Doyle go but if Arenal come in with the £12-15m being reported then he has to.
I see City are about to sign another CH, will that mean Lescott will become available??
Good news us not going for this lad, I didn’t like the look of him in the U21′s, doesn’t seem to want to tackle, what’s that all about???
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No.80 WolfRun2010-point taken, my memory isn’t so good now but I’ve always remembered that goal..Can you remember who we were playing?
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Most of the comments on here are posted by the same numptie its easy to decipher…he might call himself lord this or sir that , or even give himself a woman’s name, now thats sad… goodness help us if this clown ever got his mitts on our Wolves millions we would be broke before the season started
WOLVES FOR ALL TIME
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#83 Sue
Not sure which particular goal you are referring to, but the only one that I can recall is when Kindon scored against Arsenal. He seemed to ride tackle after tackle charging straight down the middle of the pitch and then slamming the ball past Bob Wilson.
Apart from that, the only other memorable Steve Kindon moment was when he knocked out Dougan in the pre match warm up (against Coventry I think).
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“Wolves call off Ryan Bertrand chase”
Is this because Berra, Stearman and Craddock couldn’t catch him??!!
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Loving the news that Matt Mills should sign and if we can get anyone of Cuellar, Dunne, Evans, Johnson or Bassong to play alongside him we will have a good season.
I did laugh that Arsene Wenger thinks 12m will get Doyle! Apparently it is true that they will bid but we must be looking at 15m plus?
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Please please please come and take Mills. I’d drive him to Molineux myself. Someone on here said you need pace at the back well you won’t get it from Mills. He’s ok with ball coming on to him but any forward who runs the channels will have a field day against him. He’s not dissimilar to Sonko in a lot of ways!
As for taking Shane Long as a replacement for Doyle you are talking chalk and cheese here. Long had hardly scored up till Christmas then had a purple patch where he got goals and a lot of publicity.
Whilst the Wolves money would be very welcomed at the Mad Stad be warned and learn your lessons from your previous signings from our mob.
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Albrightondek-in the back of my mind I thought it was Arsenal..maybe it is still working!!!!a little….
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why are we not looking at john arne riise quality left back wants to come back to england with fulham top of the list chasing him surely were better then fulham
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Are we ambitious or not? If we are it’s about time we showed it. All this messing about and mind games stuff is doing my head in! Get the Mills deal done for God’s sake, even our most influential player is urging this from our comatosed board. If we lost out to Leicester this would be completely unforgivable. No point talking about other targets if we can’t even get this one done.
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Don’t be fooled into thinking that Kevin is staying, Wolves management signalled this a couple of weeks back when they approached his Manager in relation to his two year contract, and our Kevin will be training with a new club before the start of the season. The success of Fletcher, and the extensive contract given to O’Hara was the last straw, and other than Arsenal; Everton, Spurs and QPR are looking at making offers in the range of 6million, no way 12 million as reported. Watch this space- he’s leaving one way or another.
Wolves, in their search for a few new players must stop picking up Championship players and go for experienced Premiership players and get used to spending some real money or we will never be competitive.
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Need to live within our means, remember Leeds, Portsmouth, etc etc.
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90) We are a far more successful club and have a miles better ground than Fulham but sadly they are more established in the Premiership, pay better wages and being in London they can attract the likes of Riise!
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kevins uncle fred – Get a life, £6.5 million is what we paid for him from a championship club, now champions league qualified teams are after him and you think that his value has gone down? Im confident that if he does go it wont be for the reported £12 million, it will be more. Why? because big clubs are obviously interested in him, we are a premiership club which allows us to inflate his value, hes still got 2 years left on his contract so we dont have to rush a sale which further inflates his value, and our financies are in order allowing us to increase the price even further. £12 million is about his value, but given our circumstances, we are in a position where we will no doubt hold out for more.
As for your reasons given that he will want to leave, they are a joke. You honestly beleive a professional footballer would want to leave because a team mate is playing well? If that was the case manchester untied wont be able to keep any of their players this season, The only way this would be true is if he honestly beleived he wasnt good enough to earn his place back, and i gaurentee thats not the case, after all why would a player leave the likes of wolves because he cant get a game, for a club with world class players, where hes even less likely to get a game. As for the being upset with another players new contract, Wolves have already confirmed they want to improve his contract, so once again, your talking aload of rubbish.
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Silver Wolf,
To run a successful business you need to get the product right.Start penny pinching on the food in your restuarant and your business will go down the pan.Start putting cheap parts in motor vehicles and you will get a reputation for unreliability and your business will go down the pan,just ask them at Longbridge. We survived last season due to a large chunk of good luck,10 minutes to go we were on the verge of relegation.No magic business strategy was involved.Our main product is what goes on on the pitch.Yet we are poised to spend £40m plus on ground redevelopment,a ground development that our CEO in a radio interview has confirmed does not have the most robust financial case.Most football clubs have hit finanacial problems due to debts incurred spending on ground redevelopment.It seems to me that you and some others just support the corporate line,irrespective of its merits.
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Silver wolf, Apologies.I have just read your first para again.You obviously don’t always take the corporate line.
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92kevins uncle fred
SPOT ON
MAY GET A LITTLE MORE THAN SPENT (OVER A PERIOD), BUT DOLYE IS ON HIS BIKE.
CANNOT PLAY 4-4-2
MR MORGAN SPENDING TO MUCH ON REFURB
TAXI
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I would be very sad to see Wolves go, but wouldn’t be surprised if he went to a club with Champions league ambitions.
I read an article last year where Doyle stated that along the lines, that in the past he had not taken the career path open over loyalty. I seem to remember him stating that maybe that had been a mistake.
Any idiot on here that wants him gone obviously has never played football or doesn’t understand the game.
He runs the channels pulls defences apart and in a more attacking team, with solid defences would be instrumental in assisting with that teams goal average.
If he were to go and lets all hope he doesn’t he should be saluted by one and all Wolves fan for his efforts and contribution in helping us stay in the Premiership for what will now be a third season.
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83 Sue – are memories are probably comparable & I believe 85 Albrightondek has given you the answer, good recall mate.
Alas gone are the days of my teens & early 20′s when I followed the Wolves home and away every season, there were some great times & we all know there were some dire times. I think we can all be a little less critical of our management if we look over our shoulders & see where we have come from. This is possibly easier for the older generation of Wolves fans who endured those dire times through the 80′. Our new generation of fans are desperate for success & rightly so, that’s what we all desire. But for now lets applaud the triple M’s for what they have built & stand for & for what they have achieved in the 5 years Mick has been with us, I know he frustrates us all at times with some of his tactics, yet he hasn’t failed us has he?
These days I live in Australia & the only thing I truly miss about England is the football & the pubs (Bank’s Beer) so unfortunately I can only view my beloved Wolves through Foxsport, nevertheless a follower I remain & wish them all the best for the coming season.
I certain we will be bringing in some quality defenders before the end of July..
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Wolfrun2010-I’m an older supporter,seen a lot of Wolves teams definitely a lot worse then what we have now, loved the team of Richards Doug,Waggie and such, but I also the love the present team. get a bit p…ed off when people criticize all the while, you probably know who they are! Shame you’re living in Aus what a big sacrifice you’ve made but I suppose it’s worth it..Been to Aus 4 times nice place but it ain’t got a molineux..and it’s full of Australians…
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Difficult to find an available up-to-date thread for debate today. Still, I guess it being the close season, the “Threadmaster” is entitled to some time off. UTW.
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agree with 68 and 96.I thinks its is unfair to say we have only 3 premiership quality players but it is equally true to say that over two season we let in far too many and score too few goals. Defensively players like Berra,stearman,ward and foley have often been short of what is required.We have had to play more defensively as a result, but I do think there is more goals in the current squad.
The answer is to raise the quality of player you bring into the club and I’m afraid that will cost money.
Lets hope Mills has the potential that Dann and Johnson did when they went to Brum, but we actually need someone who can hit the ground running,.
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101 sue – True Australia is full of Aussies that were very subdued following the Ashes destruction of 2010/11. They still haven’t recovered from that drubbing even after 7 months. Luckily where I have lived firstly in Adelaide & now here in Brisbane we have been in a predominantly English immigrants. You would be very surprised at the % of English in Brisbane, it exceeds 60%. Yeah you are right it has no Molineux – the Gabba, the MCG, the SCG, the WACA & the Adelaide Oval all great stadiums but the Molineux is the Holy Place. I take a look at the live cam regular & they are doing a great job. Who are you hoping to see Wolves sign or are not a speculator but prefer to wait for announcements? Enjoy your season I can’t wait for kick off & my early morning get ups to watch the boys in action.
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Wolfrun2010- I’m being a bit inpatient like to see a couple of defenders perhaps the boy from Reading , got to say don’t know much about him and a probably Johnson but I think I’ll leave it to the experts, what do I know.
I’ve been to the MCG to see an Aussie rules game didn’t think I’d like it but it was great!
Being you wrote this at 10.42pm what time is it here ?can’t remember what the time difference is 9 hours or 11 hours….
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sorry should have read impatient.
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