This is why I like Hodgson – tells it how he sees it.

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Just re-read the article after posting. Maybe there is a mischievous slant to it just to get a response. After all, what was the hint? The actual words uttered indicate disappointment, not necessarily criticism. Isn’t that what we all feel at the situation.

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Good on you Roy..It’s about time we had a manager who isn’t afraid to let the players know who is boss.
Come on Pete step it up kidda

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He should look no further than Shane Long for the right attitude. If he does not want to play get rid and get someone who does, Simples.

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I can see where Roy is coming from but I also think that we need to be careful not to read too much into this story. Roy may well be frustrated and disappointed but I don’t read personal rift or anger into this. It would be interesting to get Peter to the press conference and ask him what his views are, rather than fill more column inches with hot air.
I agree with Romsley that a fit and well Odemwingie is as good as anything; and it was only a few weeks ago he scored against the Wolves.
The good thing is that Long has performed well since joining and that gives Odemwingie time to recover properly.
James Morrison took forever to recover from his heal injury. Some things take longer than others to get right enough to play again and sometimes the risk of coming back too soon is not worth taking.

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4) We knew he was prone to injury before offering him his new contract, he missed several games last season, so I don’t understand what the problem is. Even with the “woo is me injuries exscuse” straight out of Laughinwolfs text book, he still managed to out shine anything at the Reds Row (and most other teams) last season, and I have no reason to see why he wont do it again this season. Just giving the rest of the strikers in the division their annual head start.

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I’m surprised Roy has said this in public but maybe it’s a gentle reminder!

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Good to see some measured responses in amongst the ‘get rid’ brigade. Players get injuries, fans get frustrated. I wonder how many of the ones saying ‘we’ve bought a pig in a poke’ about Gera are now having a go at PO and probably also on here saying ‘isn’t Gera great’ after Saturday.

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Need to remember that Peter is 30 not 20 – injuries take longer to heal and its harder to play through them at that age. That said I trust Roy amd the staff to judge his fitness and if they think he is fit they should chuck him on.

We all know Pete has to have his head right to play and the club will need to sort him out – but i wouldn’t swap him and his goals for a 2nd division player like Maynard just yet.

I hear Shane is struggling for the Spurs game and so its the perfect time for Peter to step up and remind us what he can do !!

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I love how E&S have managed to make a story out of nothing here – great journalism to get the rumour mill flying.

Not once has “Hodgson hinted he is annoyed with the 30-year-old not playing through the pain”.

He’s obviously going to be frustrated that last year’s top scorer is out, as I imagine Osaze himself is, but that doesn’t in any way hint that he’s annoyed.

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TRBH – I also hear Zolly is struggling as well but lets cross everything that at least one of them is ok for saturday !!!

p.s – I’m not “inside man” – it was on SKY early this morning.

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20 santa.
Clang! That’s the sound of the E&S trap closing behind you.

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Looks like Appleton won’t be able to borrow either Fortuné or Bednar now then. Maybe he could borrow St.Peter for two weeks? We are going to need a fully fit, on the ball outfit for Saturday. Spurs will give us a real searching. Right now I’d settle for a point, yet after Saturday I just had a feeling we could beat them. Reassure me somebody!

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Sir Peter was injured through our poor run last year, we didnt really have the quality of cover that we have now, although reading above that Long is now injured, we have some big games in as much as Blackburn and Wigan coming up, (wouldnt expect alot from the Spurs game) but to have even Ozuse on the bench for those two games would be a boost, imagine a tierd defence then Peter comes on ask Wolves they know

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Sorry,or is anybody else is up for it?
Adéu

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It might be worth throwing out there that Roy Hodgson publicly criticised Glen Johnson when he was at Liverpool. He later added that by criticising publicly he had hoped it would sting Johnson into responding on the field.

I suspect we’re seeing something similar here….

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Kev

I think we need a man at the front of stand with a tannoy like they have in parts of Eastern Europe. If you volunteer for that I’ll be right behind you with the Long song.

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The point is that our medical team allegedly can’t find anything wrong with PO so what is the reason for all these injuries and absence from the first team? If i was the manager and i had a player on my hands who was behaving in this way regardless of their ability i would also be getting frustrated. Maybe Roy has tried the arm around the shoulder tactic and it’s getting him no-where so he is trying the kick up the backside approach? After all PO best form last season came off the back of sitting on the bench after his home display against the Wolves and sat on the bench Stoke away which we drew. Then he was again on the bench for Blues away and came on at half time or just after we won 3-1 and he missed an open goal! Then through hard work forced and work ethic on the pitch earned his place until the end of the season and scored another half a dozen goals or so along the way in a decent set of results. Just a thought.

From the displays he has turned in this season for whatever reason IMO although i rate him highly it quite simply hasn’t consistantly been good enough.

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30 Macca have a chill pill mate everyone is entitled to their opinion mate just because you don’t agree with them doesn’t make them planks, are you calling Hodgson a plank too because this information has come from him and he has also lost confidence in Odemwingie’s injury problems, I would absolutely love to see him playing and so would 99% of Albion fans but the fact is he’s not and that is frustrating for us all, he never had an injury with his hand signing his new contract deal in the summer even though his injury problems started before then all the club is asking is for him to put himself out there like the others are in the team because it will eventually cause problem in the dressing room otherwise. It’s great having a 15 goal a season striker in your team but he might aswel be a 3 goal a season striker if he’s not playing.

Well that’s my opinion anyway you don’t have to like it.

I support him 100% whilst he’s playing and when he’s injured but doubt’s have been raised and so i’m frustrated in him like many others.

I hope he PROVES the DOUBTERS wrong come saturday and has a stormer because we all know he’s capable.

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Just like to say well done to the “Glass Boys” on their F.A. cup win, two nil against the “Green Army”. Rewriting your history eh boys?.

BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.

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Macca spot on! I know for a fact he is injured!

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Stop making excuses for him,he isent intrested,lets not forget the russians and nigeria wanted rid of him,they cant all be wrong,get rid in january.

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29 Kev im up for it mate,im in the brummie.

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94) TRBH, I have tried to reply several times on the other thread (now closed) to tell you why I believe your wrong on that subject, but apparently I don’t have right of reply on that matter.

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SUPER KEV

Minor quibble mate but i am East Stand, i moved there to get away from folks who keep singing daft songs. ya ken me .

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Max
Ol tek that as a no then,I thought you were in the Halford’s and I know the tune that’s always playing over there,The Last Post!
Adéu

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Baggiedad

I’d argue that if you give Peter Odemwingie a football, he’ll do more with it than Jonas Olsson, Ben Foster, Youssuf Mulumbu, Shane Long or Graham Dorrans, he’s more skilful than any of them.

I’m talking about natural raw talent, manipulation of a football, not what they make of their differing attributes.

Note- I am not saying he’s our most effective player, although he obviously can be if he applies his ‘talent’.

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@31

When Hodgson criticised Johnson, it didn’t evoke a response…just the diminishing of respect.

Hodgson will criticise certain players and not others, which was the case at Liverpool…whether they are or aren’t strong characters doesn’t seem to come into it.

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Warren
You are naughty you know, how can you possibly say at post 14:
“PO’s still our best player” then re-phrase it to:
“Peter Odemwingie’s probably still our most talented player”, and then say at post 50:
Note- I am not saying he’s our most effective player, although he obviously can be if he applies his‘talent’.

First you say he is, then you say probably, followed by he can be.

Warren, we have had discussions re the merits of Odemwingie in the past and it is obvious that you rate him very highly, however, more and more fans are coming to the realisation that “if he applies his talent” is just not good enough.
What we need at our club at the moment are young hungry, keen players who will compliment our fast emerging crop of future stars, not a thirty something i’ll do it when I feel like it bit part player who is now finding himself coming under increasing pressure. He is no longer the Main Man, the Superstar, moreover a Saint even to some!
Saint: don’t make me laugh, looking at his antics more a sinner i’d say!

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I don;t understand this overated manager complaining about a player that is hurt. He should play through the plain? how can he play through the plain when he is hurt. Stupid Manager

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Baggiedad

Okay I was a bit ambiguoous perhaps, I think most of you see what I’m getting at, he’s probably our biggest ‘talent’.

As for being a thirty-something do it when I fancy it, well his bit-part half-baked efforts so far this year yielded 3 points at Norwich and secured the win against Wolves, 6 points without which we’d be in the bottom three. Last year his goals kept us up.

I understand what you mean in that we need everybody ‘at it’, but that’s not enough in this league as we’ve found out before, you need quality too and the right balance, and PO certainly brings us quality we’d struggle to replace with whatever amount we sold him for. I’d just be careful what you wish for…..

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53 Warren,

I think you’re wasting your breath,mate.

The people who know the WHOLE story collectively,are RH,the medical team,and Pete himself.
All we have here is PART of an interview by one person,and the story says Roy ‘hinted’ at something,which means they THINK he is saying something that he hasn’t actually said.
Based on this,people jump to all kinds of conclusions.

I see that Pete has taken a picture of the injury,that still shows a large accumulation of fluid in his leg,and has said that despite this,he trained with the squad yesterday.

His 15 goals last season made the difference between us staying up,or getting relegated,and if we’d gone down,the club would have lost many,many more millions than the amount he’s getting paid.
And so far this season,his 2 goals in 6 games is a similar average to last term,he’s already helped us to get valuable points.

As for how good he is?-

well so far,he’s played one full season for us,and won the ‘Premiership Player of the month’ award TWICE,not just more times than any other Albion player,but more times than ANYONE else in the country.

But I’m sure some people will always want to just focus on the negative stuff.

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I really can’t belive that PO is now becoming the new Scott Carson/James Morrison on the strength of the bloke having an injury and a few tabloid stories doing their usual trick of being economical with the truth taken from an interview with RH. Some days I have to check the heading to make sure I’m on the right site.

I’ve followed the debate between Warren and Baggie Dad with interest. I have to say I don’t remember too many people saying that PO needs to ‘apply’ himself more last season. If he wants a move in January then not playing is a pretty dumb way to go about it. Don’t compare him with Shane Long, the injuries are different and Shane has youth on his side which makes a tremendous difference.

Then we get onto whether he’s a quality player or not. Real quality players usually have at least one outstanding quality PO’s being his pace and natural finishing. The thing to ask is would a player have a chance of getting into a top international team and with PO I think the answer is probably yes and if we take off our blue and white specs I don’t think this applies to too many other of our players.

The real telling point though Baggie Dad is that Post 60 ‘Thick As A’ said your post was one of the best he’d seen on here, coming from a person who hates everything Albion that should make you seriously reassess your view.

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