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Wolves 2 Norwich 2
Tuesday 20th December 2011, 10:00PM GMT.
Spirited Wolves twice came from behind to force a draw against Norwich in a rousing game in the Molineux rain.
Mick McCarthy’s side ended their 2011 home campaign still outside the relegation zone.
But after recovering from a awful opening 25 minutes, they will have been disappointed to have only a point to show for their efforts in a match of numerous chances for both teams.
Steven Fletcher was, correctly as replays proved, denied an injury-time winner after being offside by inches.
Ronald Zubar’s 82nd minute bullet header had dragged Wolves level after former Wolves midfielder Andrew Surman’s header was cancelled out by the recalled Sylvan Ebanks-Blake before substitute Simeon Jackson put the Canaries back in front.
But the draw left Wolves with a daunting battle to stay out of trouble over the festive period with away games at Arsenal, Bolton and Tottenham and Chelsea at home to come.
The big news before kick-off was the omission of Kevin Doyle from the Wolves starting line-up for Ebanks-Blake, against a Norwich team unchanged for the third game in a row.
It was the first time the £6.5million striker had been dropped for a Premier League game in his two-and-a-half years at Molineux and came after manager Mick McCarthy said he was sticking by the Republic of Ireland international only yesterday.
But the change appeared to have paid off with Ebanks-Blake levelling for his first Premier League goal of the season in only his second league start of 2011-12, scoring his fifth in his last three outings against Norwich.
Ebanks-Blake looked lively from the start and had a half chance when he controlled a cross high on his chest but, as his marker Zak Whitbread slipped, the ball wouldn’t come down for him.
But that proved an isolated attack from McCarthy’s side as Norwich went on to dominate for the first 25 minutes and Wolves were often left chasing shadows, struggling to perform the basics at times.
The warning signs were there for Wolves, with Surman forcing a falling save from goalkeeper Wayne Hennessey before Steve Morison beat Roger Johnson far too easily before crossing from the left.
Luckily for Wolves, there was no one on the end of it.
But Norwich’s much better ability on the ball shone through as the visitors took a deserved 12th minute lead.
Surman started and finished the move which saw him dive to net the Canaries’ 11th headed goal of 26 scored in the Premier League this season, Nenad Milijas guilty of not tracking his ex-team-mate from Wes Hoolahan’s cross.
Two minutes later, Wolves were perhaps unlucky not to concede a penalty when Ronald Zubar almost took the head off Surman.
Wolves finally broke from their malaise to force a real chance through Stephen Hunt in the 24th minute.
Norwich goalkeeper John Ruddy could only palm away a powerful cross from Ebanks-Blake and the loose ball fell to Hunt 10 yards out.
But it wouldn’t come down quick enough and Hunt lobbed over with Ruddy out of position.
Wolves were again lucky to escape in the 25th minute when Morison rocketed a header goalwards, only to send it straight to Hennessey when, if the ball had flown either side of him, it would have been a goal.
But Hunt’s chance seemed to lift Wolves and, with the rain bucketing it down, the hosts opted for a more direct approach.
It seemed to pay dividends, too, as the long balls put Norwich under pressure.
Ebanks-Blake saw a shot on the turn blocked on 35 minutes, as Wolves started to come into the game more.
But the burly striker got his angles just right two minutes later.
Reacting quickest, the 25-year-old bundled the ball home left-footed, the ball seemingly deflecting past Ruddy, who went the wrong way as the ball squeezed into the bottom corner, after Stephen Ward’s cross was met by Hunt’s shot which was blocked.
Then it was Steven Fletcher’s turn to threaten, but the six-goal striker couldn’t get over the ball enough and his looping header landed on top of the net, after Hunt flicked on Matt Jarvis’s free kick.
Norwich replied with a low drive from Wes Hoolahan from 25 yards that looked to be flying wide, but Hennessey tipped it around the post to make sure.
Chances were thin on the ground until the last half-hour, when fans were treated to a rousing finale.
Surman and Hoolahan forced diving catches from Hennessey from 20 yards, in between Fletcher lashing inches over the angle at the other end.
But Wolves wasted a fine chance to have taken the lead when Ebanks-Blake met Ward’s cross with a poor header straight at Ruddy on 72 minutes.
Norwich returned fire and Hennessey made a flying stop to deny Hoolahan again from distance before blocking a fierce effort from Russell Martin with his legs in a crowded area.
Norwich had mainly threatened from distance in the second-half, but their second goal came from almost on the goalline.
Jackson had the simplest to tap into the empty net after Morison easily twisted outside Johnson and crossed low to the far post for the substitute to score with his first touch, 14 minutes from time.
But, six minutes later, Wolves were level again when Zubar just climbed above Martin to head home Milijas’s corner from eight yards.
That sparked a grandstand finish as Wolves pushed hard for the winner.
But Fletcher’s effort from substitute Adam Hammill’s inviting centre was ruled out for a marginal but correct offside decision as it turned out.
There was still time for Hammill’s header to be blocked on the line and Milijas to fire inches wide.
But Wolves had to be content with a point.
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Dreadful first half, when we got the ball we gave it straight back. Spirited second half, heard earlier this week that we were interested in Kenwyne Jones, would be happy if these were true; ecstatic if we signed him. Need a pacey centre back to partner Johnson, he’s great in the air but lacks the pace we really need. Every point we earn takes us that little bit higher. UTW
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Just watched the videotape of this game. Easly the most exciting match at Molineaux and both teams should take credit for an enormously entertaining match.
The lessons for me were that Fletcher is easily our finest field player – his touch and awareness is excellent and we need at least one or two more like him if we are to maintain our status as a Premiership club. Hennessey was also in fine form and is going to be a top keeper in this League, hopefully with the Wolves!!! While it was the correct decision to leave Doyle out , Ebanks-Blake still has some work to do to justify a starting position despite his goal. Milijas needs to keep his place and hopefully he will keep progressing as i like the creativity he brings to the team.
Surman’s goal was superb and would have been scored whoever Norwich were playing. MM must be wondering why he let the lad go!!!
In the real world, we needed three points but as a piece of entertainment it was great for the impartial fan.
Wolves have to maintain this level of play if they are to stay up and we face some tough fixtures into the New Year.
We still need to improve our ability to keep the ball under pressure – in the first half we gave the ball away too cheaply.
Still unconvinced by the Coaching team as we will just as easily go backwards in our next game.
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Absolutely awful first half hour. We continue to make these average sides look good teams. Still awful at the back and even Surman looked a good player now he doesn’t wear the old gold.
Mick better do what David Holdsworth at Lincoln is doing and get them training on Christmas day.
But I suppose Henry is starting to pass forward more, just a pity it wasn’t to anyone in a gold shirt. Zubar awful defending along with Johnson. Only good thing I saw was that Ward and Jarvis are slowly getting a good understanding. Midfield continue to play in no mans land and that is Micks tactics nothing more nothing less.
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I expected a well organised Norwich side but they were more than well organised. I was really impressed with their movement on and off the ball and their slick passing, especially in the poor conditions. The report correctly states “Norwich went on to dominate for the first 25 minutes and Wolves were often left chasing shadows, struggling to perform the basics at times”. To be honest they looked a far superior footballing side compared to WWFC who seemed intent on giving the ball away at every opportunity. Whenever Norwich broke they looked dangerous. One thing that struck me was the difference between the managers’ touch line behaviour. MM was loudly shouting instructions non stop, whereas Lambert seemed to allow his players to make the decisions. I wonder whether Wolves players are becoming confused and hesitant at playing instinctive football because they await that booming voice telling them where to play the ball?
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Great fighting spirit and no criticism can be given for effort, but we gave the ball away so often, it was scary! We have to play like we did after we got the first equalizer. We had them running ragged and were in complete control.
Great to hear the the support being so positive. Very difficult few games coming up so stay positive and Moxey, Morgan…….invest! Don’t let us down again!!
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What a game of 2 halves! The first half I had seen my local pub team pass better and get the basics right, and then the second half was a transformation better passing, better movement, closing down, and dare I say it playing Norwich at their own game. Roger Johnson was a changed player, and even Karl Henry passed further than 5 yards, forwards!!! Atleast were not in a dire position going into the January market although it could be better.
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Well done Wolves for 2 comebacks. At least the display was spirited.
SEB did well enough to retain his place although lets get Craddock back for Roger “Kenny Everett” Johnston ASAP.
Next four games can see 4 points max, Time will tell although by then the Transfer window will be shut.
Was confident that the promoted 3 would slump, but with Bolton winning how crucial will that game be.
ACT NOW
TAXI, (eventually i will be right)
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Is it me or is Johnson just rubbish. He has no pace, he doesn’t tackle and doesn’t mark. How many goals have we conceded this season with Johnson out of position going to the wrong fire at the wrong time. And he can’t pass either.
As a consequence Berra doesn’t know whether to stick or twist. MM needs to leave Johnson out and put in Craddock or Stearman. We are shipping goals at 2 per game and that puts us in the mire come May.
I would rather see us play a sterile 1-0 win than 2-2 edge of your seats stuff. We have not improved from last season and still cannot control games over opposition who we need to take three points off if we are going to stay up.
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A very poor first 25 minutes and Wolves should have been buried by Norwich.We were lucky not to concede a penalty by Zubar as well as him not getting sent off.We also survived a later penalty appeal for handling.An improvement after the first half hour,though i found their performance somewhat disjointed.The defence again was poor and is not good enough for the Premier.I thought that Roger Johnson had been bought to ‘steady the ship’ at the back.It looks like the ship is slowly sinking.Still with three teams below us,we may possibly stay up by default.If that does happen,then surely enough is enough.Things just cannot carry on like this.Change is needed.
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hi have to say to the fans,the wolves played very well – as norwich did,both teams made this match a good advert for the premership,end to end great match you wolves fans,shifna baggie
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what is it about wolves home matches and the bloody rain, got soaked again,
defence were non existant for both goals,
milijas has been given the last 3 games to stake his claim to a first team shirt and has failed miserably, good left foot but cannot run or track back.
zubar lets his man have too much space, but puts himself about.
ward and jarvis better than last season.
after the man utd game, most on here were saying we need 6 points from stoke/norwich,
we end up with one. thankfully blackburn/wigan/qpr// look like they will keep wwfc in the premier with thier defendind worse than ours.
wwfc for ever. utw.
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Strange that McCarthy made the change after backing Doyle, but good decision if it was his?
I have been saying for weeks and yesterday, that SEB should be given an opportunity and he will only get better, he always looks as though he will score, we had more shots at goal for a long time.
The second half was exciting and well done to the players for effort, the linesman did unfortunately get several offside decisions correct.
Henry at last made some excellent forward passes, but he looks so poor on the ball, he is not intercepting anything and not braking play up, not worth his place.
The defence was appalling no tackling no positional play, no one gets picked up in the box, we are wide open, what on earth is McCarthy doing with them, he made a change up front why on earth is he not doing the same with the defence, Berra complete liability, Ward poor again last two games, no one fills in for Zubar when he attacks.
We missed O Hara yesterday.
Full marks to Zubar, and Hennessy superb effort & skill.
Norwich were a very good side full of good attacking football, Surman Mmmmm, however they were there for the taking in the second half, McCarthy again missed the sub around 60 min, Hammill should have come on, he should have been playing anyway, we cannot keep playing to Jarvis teams are now sussing this out.
This was two points dropped and was McCarthy’s fault he needs replacing but the board seem incapable of doing it, we will be relegated on this form.
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3. Lincswolf, whilst not commenting on our performance because I wasn’t there, you do Norwich a disservice. Look at their results, look at their position in the league, look at their current form. They would be overflowing with confidence. Norwich are playing good football and deserve to be where they are.
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For all you happy clappers.
This season P 17 points 15 goal diff – 13
Last season P 17 points 15 goal diff – 12
Some progress WHERE?
Another 2 home games gone, another 5 points gone.
Absolutely depressing.
We just cannot rely on other teams being worse than us.
We’ve played 3 very ordinary promoted team and had one complete stuffing and 2 lucky draws.
This ISN’T progress Morgan or Moxey.
******* NEVER MIND WE ARE SOLVENT??******
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im sorry, but this was bad championship football at best, norwich threw it away, wolves didnt deserve the draw, exexpt for the last 6 minutes of the game. i have always been a loyal supporter of mick, but im afraid its glaringly obvious he’s taken the team as far as he can, how many more points can we afford to drop at home to teams we should be beating. a point for me wasnt good enough, its time for mick to move on. im fed up with watching this drivel week in week out and untill changes are made im simply not going to bother anymore!
MICK OUT!!!
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McCarthy out, results simply not good enough. We are going down with him in charge, results just not good enough
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A well earned point but should have been three as Fletch’s goal was good and official got it wrong! (why cant we have pitch side technology?)Some very good dispays, thought Zubar had a good game, very solid and som excellent tackling. Jarvo and Hunt caused problems but Hunty should have scored!!!
Yet again the defence let s down very badly. Could not believe my eyes when they scored their second. Two players totally unmarked!
Sunday morning defending! With the fixtures coming up the likes of Arsenal, spurs etc wil bag a bloody hatful!
Midfield…..Milijas had a good game but Henry, again, crabbing all over the place and looked lost, not quick enough, not good enough for this league! He looked lost and loses the attack momentum. We have played a lot better when he is not in the side. Get rid!
Not getting too excited by the transfer rumours as we have seen what has happened before. Wait and see!
On the whole a decent display but we have to beat teams such as these. Next two weeks will be interesting.MM should still go!
UTW.
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Yet another dreadful defensive performance from the lads AGAIN,nothing will be done about it. It would be nice to hear from our silent owner or is he only interedted in deloping wolves of the pitch? He only talks when we are changing the ground or training ground its disgusting! Forget the off the field activities if we keep that thick idiot in charge we are going down to the championship! No leadership on the pitch and the so called captain Roger Johnson i have sen better sunday league players! We need a lot of investment in the january transfer window but looking at it, it might be to late beacuse players wont come for a relugation dog fight! Clear for everybody to see by signing ONE player to change the starting 11 is not good enough! YET AGAIN WOLVES SEASON TICKET HOLDERS SOLD DOWN THE RIVER AGAIN WITH CHEAP TALK ABOUT WE MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES SO THAT WE WONT BE INVOLD IN A RELEGATION BATTLE AGAIN THIS SEASON! AND LOOK AT WHAT POSITION WE ARE IN YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am a loyal north bank season ticket holder how is watching dreadful football sitting in a stand with now roof! And the FAT controller of the club thinks its ok to offer a £40 saving on next years season ticket to sit in the rain game after game watching terrible football!
Unhappy north bank season ticket holder!!!!!
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McCarthy, Doyle hasn’t been doing it, and I have SEB, who can score goals, he had a good game!! Out of Darkness Cometh Light. Alleluia
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I wish the ‘rose tinted brigade’ really opened their eyes for once! Last night’s game was appalling – simple as that!! We have no quality players in the squad and sadly a manager limited in ability to attract players of the standard required to be a middle of the table Premiership team. He does not look for quality but players who do as they are told and run around like headless chickens. It really is a sad state of affairs that after 5 years, with MM in charge, we’ve made so little positive progress in this league. Yes, we have survived but surely we need to move on and develop our squad, not just our very expensive new stand(who’s going to fill it in the Championship?). I’m bored with the poor quality of football played at the Molineux week in week out and I know many other fans are too. I really hope MM, Moxey and Morgan realise that unless we attract at least 3 or 4 Premiership quality players in January(loan or buy) our luck will run out this season. But who is available and prepared to come and will Morgan be prepared to pay for them? Sadly, I doubt it.
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Is it just me or is there something very wrong with all the happy clappers coming on here and banging on about how great Norwich were? My simple answer to that is they have a decent manager who seems to know what he is doing. And what have we got mad mickey with his funny match of the day quotes how lucky are we.
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gives up now,35 years i been a fan, MICK OUT NOW wake up morgan and spell the coffee ,
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Dreadful defending yet again the board need to act QUICK!! To try and save our season before Thick Mick takes us down! He is cluless with reagrds to tactics him and clipboard have taken wolves to their limit!
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A very poor game. Yes, it was entertaining but Wolves could easily of conceeded two penalties for a zubar challenge and a blatant hand ball by Berra.
We made Norwich look like Brasil.
We were playing NORWICH not MAN CITY.
The defence is a shambles. Johnson is possibly the worst one of the lot and he was supposed to be our saviour. Wardy was completely absent for their second goal. I’ve actually no idea where he was but he definately wasn’t within 25 yards of the wolves goal.
£4million is no where enough to get this team out of trouble. Double it and I can still see us struggling.
Watched the highlights on Sky when I got in.
Mick is the fourth worst manager in the premiership apparantly, after err, Steve Bruce who has been sacked, Owen Coyle and Steve Keane. Says it all really.
Would you back Mick in the transfer window? I certainly wouldn’t. It will be more of the same, championship quality footballers.
Gutted our club has blown the golden opportunity to stay in the premiership that it had.
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well it was exciting but defending a joke
there second goal 6 players going for the ball
on our right and 2 norwich player on there own
in the 6yard box 4/5 yards fron any wolves player, my 10year old grandsons do better than
that on a saterday morning.but the team are all over the place nobody seems to know what they are doing zubar great going forward but
does not track back half the time.sorry but all the other turkey have had the chop but
morgan/moxey seem to want to keep ours as pets.
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Quite positive on here until ENGLISH EXILE spoilt it =)
Yeah first half was terrible SEB and Hunt should really have put there chances away but glad SEB got on the score sheet to show Doyle what he needs to do. Hunty looked well out of shape, so tired I think Hammil needs to start now he brings so much more life to the team. Milijas was non existant appart from the corner to Zubar. We’re missing O’Hara!
Molinuex played Dominic the Donkey before the game…….. more like Rojer the Donkey!!! I can’t beleive how terrible he is!! I could out run him. his fault for the second goal and he tackled HENNESSEY on his line!!!! What is he playing at? shows no passion or skill….. There’s only one Jody Craddock!
Norwhich sadly are a good team and will probably stay up, there fans were loud and frustrating. and the REF was again terrible! as usual… why do we get the crap refs? glad to see MM having a go at him at the end.
It was an entertaining game overall and money well spent for me, wish we had the 3 points but we’ll get them from Arsenal next week =)
Up the Wolves!
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THANK GOD FOR NORWICH…
They came straight at us and any boring same old “get it to jarvis” MM gameplan we had went out the window and we actually attacked through the middle as well as the wings..
Best weve played all season.
Fletcher WAS offside..
Norwich could have had 2 penalties and Holt was judged offside when clean through and he clearly wasnt….also some great saves from Henners.
We got lucky with the officials decisions.
All this “SHOULD turn over New boys Norwich” is rubbish…Norwich arent the best at the back but attacking wise they are one of the best in the league.
Would rather see us play like that every week than the boring same old slow cautious – pass across the pitch to no one – that we play every week.
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I am a realist and know that we won’t be up challenging the big boys any time soon, yes some great wins last season, but come on we have struggled against just about everyone this season and a lucky draw here and there will not mean survival.
Tonight we could be in the bottom three if wigan and sunderland win, then our position does look bad.
We need a defence as the one which is currently put on the pitch is awful.
Going forward does not look great, Look at the stats from last night Norwich had twice as many shots on target than us.
We are a very average team with an average coaching staff.
2 x points from the newly promoted clubs is not great either is it.
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Johnson is becoming a liability, get Bath back or put Stearman in or even push Zubar across once Foley is back playing…..this guy is costing us, his position for Surmans goal is laughable.
If we don’t sort the defence out in Jan we are going down i fear
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Awful first half…
I actually thought Johnson didn’t look too bad in the last 30mins. Got in front of centre-forwards to win the ball first and had a bit of aggression again.
And for the fan on here who thought Ward was terrible…are you kidding? Jarvis and Ward were probably our best players last night.
Much happier with the second half and we looked like the stronger team by the end.
Fair play to MM for dropping Doyle, but I’ve had enough now.
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Karl Henry was suberb last night, spreading the play with FORWARD passes throughout.Proved the Numpties wrong again.
Now that the Numpties have wrecked Doyles confidence they have moved onto Johnson who next on the list?
The real fans are 100% behind the team, manager and club, if the nUmpties went to matches they would see that.
All I want for Christmas is a Numpty free week in the E&S!
Happy Clapping in the Premiership!
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My turn to be a little negative…..
A friend of a friend who knows someone who works at the training ground has said:
There is a rift between Henry and O’Hara and also O’Harah and Doyle. Also said that the players seem to not care when at training and stand around playing on games and phones…
One thing is for sure though and that is the team for the first half showed no passion or togetherness at all almost like a family bust up?
All the numpties are saying MM out… but if the players aren’t putting in the effort what can he do really? He has to play his best players but I am glad to see he is willing to drop Doyle and Johnson! does show guts.
#14 English Exile – Okay, so we might have the same points as last year but what place was we? this year we have yet to be in the religation zone. It’s a different league this year and although playing badly were staying out those dredded spots!
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Spirited but defensively incompetent performance (again). Mick’s defence will surely see us relegated.
If Bolton sell Cahill and Mark Hughes takes over at Blackburn be prepared to see Wolves outbid for cheap players who might have improved us defensively (including Mr. Blobby). Nice to see SEB given a chance for once, he will surely score bucket-loads in the Championship again next season.
A bottom three Christmas beckons Sir Billy. All down to the fans? I think not.
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Fair play to the players for digging deep n grabbing a draw. BUT 1 point out the last 2 so called easier games with our Xmas fixtures just isn’t good enough. Mick has done wonders for Wolves but Iv now lost patience n think he has taken us as far as he can, has he ever bought a decent defender? Investment or a new manager is needed or we will be back having a heart attack on survival Sunday again. Sort it out Morgan!
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For the first time this season it became clear to me what a mess we are in.Lets forget the lack of creation in midfield,the predictability of our play,forwards who cant trap a ball, but concentrate on our defence (or lack of it).We have not kept a clean sheet for 13 matches and simply cannot defend.Micks has had 3 years to sort this out and it is inexcusable. It was interesting listening to Sam Allardyce on the television when I got home and he said(if you are near the bottom of the division) to have a good chance in avoiding relegation the PRIORITY has got to be to try to keep clean sheets and be difficult to beat.Not rocket science I know but we simply aint good enough to play 4 4 2!! £4,500,000 in the January window? Chicken Feed!!!
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sir Billy quiet……you make me laff
Doyles confidence is gone because the numpties… Ha Ha
Grow some fella, £40k a week! Do you think Doyle cares how you feel? Get real……your living in the past mate
Gone are the times when the supporter was part of the clubs make up, and you felt like you were close to the players!
We are just a cash cow now, money, with nothing given back except broken promises
Regarding the team – what progression have we shown this season? We all said we needed at least 4 points from stoke and Norwich – We got 1… 1 point from 6 and now played 17 with 15 points!!!
Time for change……we are wasting time and money – after 5 years madmick still doesn’t know his best team, and plays out of form players!
Mick…..put us out of our misery nag go!
he’s taking us down, he’s taking us dow-own, #madmick McCarthy is taking us down!!!
wolves til I die
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I’ve got a friend of a friend who’s been going to games for 80 years who *blows my own brains out*
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After leaving sunny England 3.5 years ago this was my first trip to the Mol in some time, some observations:
The new North Bank already looks very impressive, I just hope we continue to invest and improve on the pitch so we fill it and continue the next phase of the development.
The pre-match and half time ‘entertainment’ is still shocking. What’s with the two PA guys flirting with each other over a microphone with 27,000 people listening??
Very quiet at times, although our league position can excuse that to a point. Lots of tension but at least the fans stuck with the team to the end.
On the pitch, Berra had a great game and would surely be better playing alongside some other than RJ and having to do the job of two…Johnson is basically out of his depth.
Wayne solid as usual these days. Zubar looks to be improving although I always feel there’s a mistake in him just around the corner..
Henry, despite the criticism is the teams go-to man. Always available, and keeps play ticking. Made a couple of excellent cross field balls last night to change the play as well. If he could score a few he really would be a top player.
Milijas despite some quality is basically lazy. He will leave soon.
SEB played well and must have been a nightmare to defend against. Fletch has had better games but is quality, same Jarvis.
All in all 1 point from 6 in the last two home games is not good enough, especially with the next set of fixtures. Our defending is the big worry, one clean sheet all season? Look at Swansea for an example, keep the back door shut and the rest will follow. At least 2 new defenders required in Jan..
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Yet again you left it till the last 20 mins before you decided to have a go and thereby salvaged a point.Well done.
As commented elsewhere Norwich were unfortunate not to get a couple of penalties but in addition to that I would ask what has Berra got to do to have a penalty awarded against him?He’s always at it-holding players,tugging shirts etc-one day this will come back to bite you big time.
Anyway,we all know that there are worse teams than the mighty WBA and you lot so merry Christmas to you all.
Boing Boing
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Two must-win home games. One point.
Mick Out.
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Sir Billy
Karl Henry was Superb? We were playing Norwich lol
Blimey. I don’t ever remember anyone ever booing Doyle by the way either. So who and how they have wrecked his confidence is beyond me.
I’m amazed Sir Billy, that despite it being obvious to all but you, you still blame everyone for the short commings of this team, but MICK.
Its micks team, he has been heavily backed, hes had five years and the team isn’t good enough.
Get your head out of the sand, stop throwing your toys at everyone and wake up and realise that this team isn’t good enough and that is because the manager is out of his depth.
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Great to rally late for a point and everything, but seriously, this is a terrible result. If we can’t expect to get three points against Norwich, and worse than that, actually go into the game fully resigned to the fact that there’s a very good chance that we won’t, then we’re in trouble. But then, we’re in trouble anyway, we just have to hang our hat on the fact that there are several teams – Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan, Sunderland, West Brom – who are worse than we are. Not so much progress as staying afloat while others drown, I fear.
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people moaning about the poor quality football??? did u not see the standard before mm???
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Where do you start after a game like that? Great stuff for the neutrals and a fine advert for the Premier League, for sure. Coming twice from behind to almost snatch a victory through Fletcher deserves credit, too. On the minus side, it’s yet another home game gone without 3 points. We can’t defend to save our lives, either, with the concession of a minimum two goals per game seemingly the norm. These are desperate times but, if anyone wants to bury their heads in the sand and kid themselves that this squad are up to the task, fine, go ahead. I won’t be joining you, though. The work rate and commitment was admirable (after that awful first half-hour), but the lack of quality is beginning to take its toll. Where’s the next win coming from? What’s our position in the table going to be, 4 or 5 games from now? It’s scaring me to death with only 2 wins from the last 14 games. That’s criminal.
Credit to both sides for having a go, though. Norwich impressed me greatly and deserved their point. However, what it says about Wolves when we’ve failed to beat any of the promoted clubs at Molineux is anyone’s guess. It does say we’re in deep, deep trouble, though, when we only took 2 points from six and scored only four whilst conceding seven. So much for the ‘easy’ 7-9 points we probably expected.
Not sure why Radio WM made such a big deal about Mick swapping Sylvan for Doyle. They described it as “A brave decision”. Erm, harldy! It was common sense, nothing more. Now give the boy the chance he deserves, Mick, and give him half a dozen games to prove himself. We can hardly do worse, can we?
As for our defensive ills…pass! Five and a half years after Mick joined us, it’s still leakier than an an old sieve peppered by buckshot. When you start games knowing you have to score THREE goals just to have any chance of victory, you know you’ve got trouble.
I’ll still back the club at every game (booing and heckling never was my idea of ‘support’), but I can’t delude myself. Exciting game it may have been, but it only counts for ONE POINT when we needed THREE -and that’s the reality, folks. Much more of this defensive generosity and we’re nailed-on relegation candidates. Or maybe we’re just consistently “unlucky”…
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Actually got to go the Stoke game on Saturday and despite the bad refereeing/lucky deflection/switching Jarvis to the right, I thought we played very well in parts and I was impressed with our work ethic. Now, from the Norwich game, it seems there are more positive vibes than negatives. We need to keep believing and keep up the effort – we will get a break, eventually. Johnson is nowhere near the defender we need him to be, or that the hype made him out to be. Very disappointed with his contribution. Well done lads.
Have a nice day.
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Of course, I meant to say “two points from nine” -not six- from the promoted clubs.
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i see theres alot of happy clappers on here because we got a draw even if fletchers goal had of not been ruled out for offside it would have papered over some very large cracks mick plays championship players like henry and a few others and we are going down with mighty mick as manager you lot make me laugh coming on here moaning when we lose you can do all the moaning you like but if the mol is close to capacity week in week out mick will stay the only way mick will be sacked if all you numpties put your money were your mouth is and stay away from the mol then morgan will act enough said
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A real curate’s egg of a performance that one! First half we were awful and very lucky to be level at the break. Second-half was better and we could, and should, have won it at the end.
SEB proved he’s a goalscorer but his presence on the pitch meant that Fletch had to do a lot of the running down the channels and he often found himself in wide areas when we need him in the box.
Hunt was poor and I think it’s time Hammill was given a chance on the right. For me, Johnson was at fault for both goals – pulled out of position for the first and beaten too easily for the cross for the second. I have to say that, yet again, Berra was our best defender last night and showed some good pace. The guy is improving every week (and has to given the bloke he’s playing alongside!). Zubar is good going forward, and a fans favourite, but leaves a lot of holes in defence (yet again, both goals came down the side where he is supposed to be and was absent – just like Stoke’s 2nd and the Sunderland goal!).
In the window we need a couple of defenders and another solid midfield player.
UTW
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31. Have a word with yourself. Johnson is rubbish plain and simple. Now have a cup of hot chocolate and go back to sleep.
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3 games against promoted sides – 2 points and the managers delighted with the spirit of the team and their effort.says it all really – Championship side in the making
Effort and workman like performances are not enough at this level – it requires tactical ability which we do not posses off the field
MM honesty is refreshing and he has done brilliant to take us up and keep us up – but to take us to the next level i think will require a new manager and backroom staff – If not predictable relegation
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17- is it any wonder mick calls the fans numpties with absolute muppets like you making comment like that what game were you watching yesterday ?? That was one of karl Henry’s best performances in a wolves shirt what god given right have we got to beat Norwich ?? Do me a favour and do one our club doesn’t need retards like you and the others who think we should be flying high in Europe keep up the good work mick
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Time to panic. Most visiting Managers obviously do their homework and expose our weaknesses and the newly promoted teams have done that very well with us dropping 7 points to them which really is relegation form. We need some players in urgently with class. It still looks a tall order to survive in the Premiership but at least the Stadium looks impressive for the Championship. Time to have a management clear out.
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Mixed feelings:
Zubar was great going forward, but how many goals are we going to concede from him being out of position?
Hunt ran round like a madman to get the ball and then gave it away over and over again.
SEB has a great eye for goal, but is very poor outside the box.
Berra had an excellent game (partly at fault for their second though) but RJ is still struggling
Milijas played some good passes and spread the ball well, but still fails to track back (he should have been with Surman for the first goal)
Not enough points off promoted teams – but how many others are the same?
Crowd stayed with the team throughout the game, no protests, no booing (except for mixed reaction at the end)
Despite the lack of appreciation for him on here, Henry was excellent and took control of the midfield after 30 minutes to turn the game
Off to Emirates for a day out and to be robbed late on and to Bolton for some more points fingers crossed.
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Having listened to the match on Beacon,and then watched the highlights on Sky later,i have to say that both the headed goals were unstoppable,as both crosses were at pace and any decent contact on the ball would have taken them into the net,you cannot defend against crosses like those two. But the other two goals were very poor defending by both teams,their 2nd goal was like something from an U10 kids match,ALL our players got drawn to the ball,although Berra clearly told Ward to stay back, he to followed Berra across ,leaving two Norwich players to decide who wanted a simple tap-in. The game itself was a throwback to the ‘old days’ end to end stuff,lots off goalscoring chances,and lots of poor defending,by two Championship looking teams,with a sprinkling of PL payers. It must be a major concern to MM, that every match we play ,we need to score at least 3 goals to win a match,otherwise we will either draw or lose,as we seem to concede at least 2 goals every match? Again Wayne Hennessey was m.o.t.m. this young lad must be our p.o.t.y on these performances,he kept us in the game with some top saves,it was also good to see SEB in the team and scoring a goal. But looking at it today,its not the result we wanted,most fans wanted a minimum of 6pts from the Stoke/Norwich games, yet we’ve only got 1pt, that is simply not good enough,2 wins out of about 14/15 matches is relgation football. The three teams promoted have taken 5pts off us at home,and it could have easily been ALL 9pts.UTW:
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I’m not the biggest MM fan but if we get rid of him now who do we brig in?
Would Mark Hughes come to Wolves? – probably not. He didn’t show great commitment when he walked away from fulham because he thought he could get a ‘better’ job at villa.
Do we really want Steve Bruce?
Those are really the only available ‘premiership’ managers and after that you are left with the likes of Billy Davis and Alan Curbishly who are no better then MM.
UTW.
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Going down…. And will be lucky to break 30 points….cannot see where a clean sheet will ever come from. Great effort on behalf of the lads, not their fault, they simply are not goid enough. We need quality, simple!
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Number 51
Keep up the good work MM
WHAT A JOKER
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mick out, the defence is a shambles ,the midfield isnt much better ,we are goin down under mccarthy ,wolves cant defend hes known about this for almost 18 months @ done nothing about it berra to slow ,johnson to lightweight ,need 2 solid centre backs in jan also a midfielder @ striker otherwise we are goin down with mick hes an idiot id have dave jones back anyday than stick with mccarthy WWFC FOREVER
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51 – Dan
Although I don’t agree with everything ’17. Doyler’ says, especially the offside, he/she is entitled to an opinion without being called a retard.
In fact, if you read their post, they point out some glaringly obvious problems with our football club, most notably in defence and that we should be beating newly promoted teams at home if we want to stay in the division.
Some supporters expect progress, not another relegation dogfight. You are obviously not one of them if you think this season is ‘good work’.
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2 WINS in 4 MONTHS !!!!!!!!!!
Of our TEN remaining home games….
FIVE are against top 6 sides who are all showing good form at the moment.
TWO are local derbies which can go either way.
THREE are against Bolton, B’burn and Everton.
Can somebody please tell me exactly where the 25 or so points required to scrape another season in this league are coming from ???
WE ARE DEEP, DEEP IN THE…….and I don’t even think a new manager will get us out of this one…too late now Moxey, you did not do your job.
On a brighter note, I thought Berra was excellent…..er that’s it!
Merry Christmas to you all, Happies and Numpties alike…. afterall,We are ALL Wolves.
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Has to be said that last nights match was probably the most entertaining game of football I have seen in many years. A dissapointing result at home, but without a doubt, Im glad I was able to watch the match. The second half of the season needs to be a huge improvement over the first, in particular defensively, But I feel that we have the players to accomlish that improvement.
So far this season, the likes of O’hara, Johnson, Jarvis, Hunt and Doyle have been nowhere near their best. We all know these players can perform better, and if they do, we will move up the league. Jarvis over the past couple of games has shown that hes getting back to his best, lets hope the others follow his example, and we can have a better second half to this season.
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noone has yet to mention a good manager who would come to wolves, that is the worry
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Well folks,
one point out of a possible six from two hugely big massive home games isn’t what I’d call a premium return but I would say the attitude of the players, and even the manager, (dare I add that?) is slowly improving. Shane is, it’s all happening far too slowly.
MM is at last seeing the light, even though he won’t admit it. The dropping of Doyle paid divis with SEB’s appearance and goal and Zubar’s super header and shear exuberance must make him favourite to start next time. Johnson is the most fantastic waste of space I’ve ever seen. He typifies the dumbness of our manager in the transfer market. Why give him 4.5 million next week, he’ll only blow it.
Hammil should start over Hunt, play Milijas in preference to Edwards (believe me: with more game time the man will turn into another Mike Bailey) and play Guédioura in preference to Henry. Permanently.
Take my word for it, Wolves would then Motor and produce more hits than Motown!
Sack the manager please Mr Morgan and I will take charge immediately.
”In Tonto we trust” could easily become the new happy clappers byword!!
We’re trusting in Stupidity personified already, so why not?
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who brought in johnson,if that’s the caliber of player wfc can attract it doesn’t bode well for January.who will want to come probably to warm the bench for the first 5-6 games(you have to put the time in) you are not going to premiership players.just look at his past acquisitions.if mick must go who will want to replace him? lot to do with no money forth coming,just a nice shinny stadium.
uthw
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Well said ’100% Wolf’
15 points from 17 matches spells ‘RELEGATION’
Where are another 25 points going to come from?
We can’t keep a clean sheet against anyone.
We can’t buy a result away fron home.
Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool have all yet to come to Molineux. Do we honestly believe we can take points off these teams? No chance.
Mick’s a great bloke but he’s not up to it. We’re no better than last year – in fact we’re now going backwards. Too late for this season but let’s line up a new man now so we can get off to a flyer in the Championship.
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The known flaws in our tactics, passing and closing down were still evident to see at times last night.
Great game however for a neutral and good fightback and we could have taken it at the end.
Jarvis is near his best again plus Milias & Ebanks-Blake were worth their place as they offer something we don’t have when we simply rely on Jarvis to knock balls into the box for Fletcher and the usually absent Doyle. I saw no reason to knock Henry or Johnson last night. But once again our fullbacks were great going forward but expose us when we are being attacked from the flanks meaning double work-rate from Johnson and Berra and them being pulled all over the place giving Norwich space and a complete lack of man marking.
Still can’t say I feel we will stay up however unless we get another premiership standard striker, midfield dynamo (this new guy?) and proper fullbacks (Foley please back in the team asap) despite the ever improving Ward who is NOT a fullback but provides useful if not always effective cover on the left.
It maybe off the wall but is Mick planning on a new look midfield with O’Hara up front or in the gap between midfield and attack because I think Henry looks better when O’Hara is not alongside him?
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41, Richwolf,
great post mate, should be read by all the happy clappers. But sadly all they can do is look elsewhere than the manager when it comes to who is responsible for the mess we’re in.
Professional footballers having their confidence damaged by posts in the E&S Sir Silly Billy, that’s almost as daft as the manager saying he thought we played great against Stoke. OH I forgot, we did, for twenty minutes.
If we’d have been 4-0 up by then, I’d have said so too. Forgot we lost, did you? No points gained from that game, fab result Sir Silly, out of this world and out of the Prem if we keep playing as good as that.
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#44 Ye Olde South bank – Exactly!I would like to say that Berra played well last night. He is actually doing the job of two central defenders at the moment. RJ is all over the place and so Berra is having to cover for him. At least twice Berra out sprinted Norwich forwards to cover the through ball. We need a new partner for Berra.
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Are Blackburn Bolton and Wigan really worse than us? I`m not so sure. I can see them all improving but, alas, even with gold and black eyes, its hard to see us getting much better. And is it even worth turning up at Arsenal! They must be shaking in their boots! Still, i love you Wolverhampton Wanderers, i really do. XXX
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Yet again SBQ has let the cat out of the bag…he doesn’t go to the games. He thought we were playing Sunderland on a saturday, remember. Now he’s taken a wild guess that those that actually do go, have been giving Doyle stick.Unlucky again fake fan. Whether you watch it on sky or on a dodgy stream, I don’t know. One thing’s for sure, you never set foot in The Molineux.It also explains your rather bizarre appraisal of Karl Henry. Maybe you only listen to it on the radio, perhaps. For those of us that do go and are able to evaluate ‘progress’ for ourselves,we don’t need idiots like you coming on here telling us the emperor has clothes on. He’s as buck naked as the day he was born, for anyone without the rose tinted, fantasy specs on, that is. Go away SBQ and take your fake fans and your happy clapping with you.Just one question for the HC brigade: If you (and you did, remember) backed MM’s decision to only sign one new player in the summer, then why aren’t you on now saying he’s wrong to be looking to sign in Jan?Surely you can’t have it both ways. So, which one is it? Was MM wrong in the summer, or is he wrong now? There’s a lesson in blind faith for you all.
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Like a lot of people we have little money but as a Christmas treat to me and my daughter we went to the match last night. I truly believe that everyone associated with Wolverhampton Wanderers should be ashamed at what was happened last night in front of 27 thousand supporters. The Management and players are laughing at us, shame on you with your fat paychecks and fireproof lifestyles.
I have read in depth the detailed input of the true supporters above, don’t waste your breath the are not listening and don’t care a jot.
We are the numpties !
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Just whats going on? Its seems to me that it requires us to go a goal down before we start playing, if we’d have played the 1st half like the second we’d have won. We need to start from the kick off, instead of being ‘come back kings’. Finally id like to see another manager do as well as Mick with the resources, lets get behind the team and we’ll stay up!
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No point in calling for MM’s head now – there are no good alternatives available that would come to us. And, as I’ve said before, we do not know what constraints MM has been working under to be fair. If it goes pear-shaped by the end of the season, then names will again come into the frame. Ollie Gunnar Solksjaer might be one.
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@ Sir Billy Quiet – I am not taking issue with you, but did you indicate recently that, come the end of the season, it might be time for MM to step down? Or was it someone “stealing” your name?
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hey Mick, you haven’t misled us over the Doyle business any more than you’ve mislead us generally. Thanks for apologising all the same, on yer way out, are you? No need to apologise for that either mate.
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Cracking Match, anyone who went must have been entertained. As for Wolves, frailties still at the back (where was Ward for both Goals?. Hunt (1st touch awful) tucked in all game but Zubar never really overlapped into the space wide? Henry (only one to get the ball off keeper. why not the defenders?)was super and Milijas did well. Ebanks scored but movement was poor compared with Holt and Morrison. Norwich impressive and can control games with thier passing, why not Wolves I ask? Simple, not enough who are technically good enough (Berra, Ward, Johnson, Zubar, Hunt and Ebanks plus more in squad). You need 11 players to pass and control the game!!!
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Tonto, if you get the job, can I carry your clipboard?
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68 – (Perthwolf) Agreed. Berra’s improved substantially from the lumbering wreck that I saw him as prior to this season. He’s still a ‘wrestler’ though, so I’m baffled as to how he’s consistently got away with it SO FAR.
As you say, RJ’s being covered by Berra (though having fullbacks go AWOL doesn’t help, as you know). What a pity Jody’s unfit -and what an even bigger pity Jody aint 10 years younger because he’s a far better bet than Johnson currently is.
Mind you, what does it say about our defence when I can’t wait for a pensioner like Mr. Craddock to return? That’s no insult to Jody because he’s been a bloody stellar signing for us. No, Mick’s entirely to blame for our defensive woes. If you can’t get close to a decent back-four after 5 and a half years in charge, then God help you, I say. It’s criminal.
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A team just come up from the Championship, currently in 9th position on 21 points versus a team in its third year in the Premiership at 16th position on 15 points. And the happy clappers are content with the result of a draw having had to come from behind twice at home.
Just goes to show the paucity of our expectations.
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Thought Henry had a good game last night, really enjoyed the match(even though got soaked again)thought we did enough to win, some bad misses by Ebanks and Hamill, i might get slated for this but I thought Johnson was slighty better! Milijas seem to last the match out, although I love Zubar he’s great going forward but sometimes leaves a jap at the back!
On another note, hope our fans don’t turn like the Blackburn fans! thought they were a disgrace… think we may have a few fans like that reading some things that are said on here,
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same old story. We give 2 silly goals away every game and then have to scrap to get anything.
Mick must sort out this leaky defence, Johnson, Berra, Ward is not working and the goals we let in are getting embarassing to watch. We need fresh blood come january.
We will not stay up if we dont start keeping clean sheets as we cant outscore our opposition.
If you look at both the stoke and norwich games but for shambolic defending we could of won both or at least drawn both.
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Sir billy what an excellent post,bravo
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McCarthy is taking us down to the Championship no question you have to win your home games in this mini league 1 point from five is relegation form,in three years despite the money spent we have made absolutely no progress,we escaped relegation last year by 5 minutes I dont think that we can rely on luck again.We played a team last night that ran rings round us a team that has had little money spent on it but has a very capable manager I rest my case.
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Richwolf, I can’t stand people that say “its only Norwich/Swansea/QPR/Wigan/Blackburn/Bolton” etc, its so condescending and patronizing.
Have you ever been involved in professional football?? I doubt it, so who made you the Guru/fountain of footballing wisdom? Have you forgotten all the above teams got themselves into this league by playing to a standard that earns you the right to compete with the best. What shallow drivel you talk.
You talk utter tripe, and if you can not get behind a team that clearly demonstrated its fighting spirit once again lastnight, against a backlash of negative imperialist nobody bloggers like yourself, then please leave, go away, desert us, jog on, dissappear, erase your support from this club and go and join the witch hunt at Blackburn.
In short under Mick we are in a better place than we have ever been in the last 25 years.
This season is not proving to be great, but our club is not blessed with a bottomless pit of money so we have to fight and its hard.
We are in the best league in the world. Respect that, respect Mick and respect Wolves or else shove off and direct you negativity somewhere else.
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Petenuts are you nuts?
We are worse than you? How dya work that one out?
I’d say the only team to be worse than you in the Midlands is Walsall (marginally).
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Didn’t Surman used to play for the Wolves? Oh yes I remember Mick bought him said he was a great asset, never played him then sold him back to Norwich.
Ah well, nothing changes does it and I include the manager in that. What a shame.
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An entertaining game of football but I echo Martin Swain’s view that this match did feel like a top of Championship game and Norwich were the more impressive team when it came to passing the ball. Both back fours were poor creating the amount of openings that were in the game. A draw was a fair result however the big fear for Wolves is that now, all of the teams coming to Molineux will know they a have great chance of taking the points away and in the second half the season we play, 5 of top 6 in Liverpool, Man City and Utd, Arsenal and Chelsea. I strongly doubt that we can pull off those FA Cup like shocks over the top sides from last season, amongst the other games the best chances of home wins I think will come against Blackburn and Bolton. So obviously we need some points away from home and again its a struggle to see if we can get some wins on our travels but then we might come against teams at the point of the season with nothing to play for. The first January piece of business may turn out to be a good investment but the player is going to be needing time to adjust and we as Wolves don’t have the time, if the January sales is all about getting bodies in rather than quality then I think we would lucky to stay up this season.
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83 – (Wolfhound) If some fans would only look at the cold, hard facts and think independently for themselves -rather than being blinkered and sycophantically adoring of Mick McCarthy, thanks to his success in gaining us promotion- they’d see the real mess we’re in. And, with ‘winnable’ home games fast running out, you better believe it’s a BIG mess.
Great, Mick got us up. He’s done a FANTASTIC job, no argument there. He’s a decent, loyal, plain-speaking Yorkshireman that many admire -myself included. But…
He’s a spent force. He’s outlived his usefulness. Hey, it happens to all managers, not just Mick. However, misguided loyalty to this man is going to cost the club (and us long-suffering fans) big time. We cannot and must not live in the past. We tried that before, and that’s one reason why we spent 20 years in the wilderness. We thought we had a ‘right’ to be promoted to the top flight as the ‘sleeping giant’ we were, waiting to wake from its coma. Once we changed that spendthrift ethic and stopped paying a King’s Ransom for overpaid flops, we finally succeeded.
The trouble is, the ‘young and hungry’ policy (another name for ‘doing it on the cheap’) worked so well that Morgan, Moxey and McCarthy are still convinced it WILL still work in the Premier League, 2011. That’s why only Johnson (omitting O’Hara) was the only ‘real’ signing this year. They’ve seriously overestimated our strength, yet also underestimated what QPR, Norwich and Swansea would do in the Big League -and that’s why we’re a good bet to go down again. Ironically, whilst we’ve kept very tight purse strings, we’ve barely seen any new, young blood since entering the top flight. Do we actually need an Academy? It makes you wonder.
This season feels a terribly wasted opportunity and definitely will be if we sink into the Championship faster than the Titanic. That new North Bank will be an empty testimony to our folly, much like building the old John Ireland Stand stand 30 years ago was the spark that ignited our previous decline.
I hope I’m wrong, by God, I really do, but this club seriously needs to address itself before it’s too late -and so do some of our fans who have their heads firmly stuck in the sand. Nobody should kid themselves that Wolves would bounce back in one -maybe two- attempts. I thought the very same thing at the end of the 1983/84 season -and look what happened.
I don’t know who should replace Mick; I don’t know who could necessarily do a better job on the meagre money available. I do know that, on the field of play, we’re going nowhere under Mick, Moxey and Morgan, though. Probably down.
Still, they’re just my thoughts and I only speak for myself. How others see it is their prerogative. Let’s just say I’m VERY worried.
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Im actually confident for the remainder of the season, because even though I know a big improvement is needed, I also know that many of our players are capable of improving their game as they clearly havent been playing as well as they can.
Before anyone slates me, if anyone can genuinely tell me that the likes of O’hara, Johnson, Jarvis, Hunt, Doyle etc have been playing as good as they are going to get this season then fair enough, but I know for a fact that I have seen all of those players play allot better than they have done so far this season. Jarvis is now getting back to his best, if the others can follow, surely the results will start improving.
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Is it me or are we kidding ourselves?
Money being spent on stadium before an established premiership side….. Or are we content with the Championship?
I believe we should give Mick till the end of the season to get these players playing not praying then start looking for what is wrong. In the intervening time we should support our team loudly. No booing as this does not help matters.
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In the same postion as last year, no progres, and after Christmas we will be in the drop zone, unless the unlikley happens and we beat Arsenal, we have played some very ordinary sides 3 of which were promoted last season and as far as I am concerned they have given us a lesson, all we have to look forward to unless things change soon, is yet another relegation battle.
Come on Morgan/Moxey make the big decision that most Wolves fans are thinking and really put the club first and rid the club of the biggest mumbty about Big Mick.
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88 South Bank,
very good post, as usual. you’ll probably be slated for being ‘hateful’ towards MM, a numpty and a moaner but I for one think very much along the same lines as yourself.
We don’t have that much in terms of quality players and I would imagine that Doyle, Fletcher, Hennessy, Jarvis & O’Hara would all jump ship, given somebody wanted to buy them. What we’d then be left with would frankly bedoodly squat and therefore a long term stay in the Championship would be bound to follow. I for one don’t think Micko would get us back up again at the first shout, any more than anyone else would. I, like yourself, sincerely hope that scenario does not materialise. But the way things look, hope is a thin lifeline when points is what we need more than anything else.
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Again, plenty of effort, but that’s not enough in the Premiership. I just feel every game now we are making the same errors which is costing us valuable points.
Agree with majority, Micks done his job getting us here. Let’s face it we were mighty lucky to survive last season, we cannot rely on such luck again. We need a new broom in and quick.
Moxey should give Ray Wilkins a call, at least he knows how to play the game, is respected, and maybe he could persuade some decent players to come to Wolves
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42PeteNuts
Finished watching Match of the Day.
Are Wigan, Sunderland, West Brom, worse than us?
Grow up!
How good is the Wolves defending. Only one player needs to be off his game or weak and u get punished in Premier. Unfortunately not 1 of back 4 is CONSISTENTLY good enough to be a Prmier defender.
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92 – (Top Numpty) Hi, mate. If I were the type to barrack the players, manager, CEO or owner at a match, I’d expect criticism, my friend. It would be justified, too. As it is, all I’ve ever given is 100% support at games. Unlike some fans, I can’t hurt the club I love on match day because it’s counter-productive and would feel like stabbing a family member in the back. Supporters should never do that unless exceptional circumstances warrant it, and even then only after a game ends. However, the opinions I hold about the club are an entirely separate issue, and I’m fully entitled to them. Whether fans agree or disagree is their choice. However, as fans, we’ll always have differing views, but let’s show each other a bit of respect along the way. There’s no right or wrong -only opinion.
Incidentally, I agree with your point about those players. They’d (understandably) want to leave, as you said, and that ‘quick return’ may not be so quick after all. Of course, that 20-year exile from the top flight we recently suffered is the sole reason why Wolves have had to play catch-up. It’s why we’re no longer the ‘Big Fish’ we used to be. The creation of the Premier League left us way behind while we were still in recovery from falling down the divisions. Bridging that gap is proving a really tough job. If we’re relegated, how much FURTHER behind could this club be, given that NOBODY can see into the future and guarantee when Wolves would be back?
That’s why I’m worried sick. That’s why I can’t place my “trust” in Mick McCarthy, no matter how much I’d like to. My loyalty is with Wolves only, and not one man. Nobody’s bigger than the club -never has been, never will be.
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wwfc will see sense and give mcarthy a new contract and shut the moaners up for good but somehow i doubt it. bring back sammy chapman. fools.
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Not all was poor on Tuesday, but our tactics lack attacking endeavour and favour low tempo football that is littered with midfield passing. Why when there is an opportunity to open up teams with long balls to the flank do we always opt for two or three short lateral passess and then a pass to the wingers when they have one or two opponents tracking them? It seems Zubar is taking the initiative and running with the ball because central midfielders lack the conviction to do it. The coaching and tactics need refreshing. We are far too predictable.
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We are giving away on average two goals every match McCarthys had five years to fix this problem and he seems incapable of fixing it the problem is in the whole set up from buying bargain basement players to the quality of coaching.It was interesting to hear Big Sams comments on the match,he pointed out the shortcomings in our defence and what he said made sense you have to have defenders who work togeather as a unit,too mnay times we have left holes at the back failed to track runners etc the point is I believe the coaching and tactical play is not up to premier league standards the truth is Clipboard and McCarthy are just not good enough at this level.
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Lots of good comments but maybe the interpretations are different.
Ninad – yes he did not track back but is he given the frredom to do thew job we all know he is good at. Yes he trotted back almost appearing not interested several times but he is a more attackive midfielder if allowed!
But the only time we had several atempts on goal – we did it only once! – his shot was what was required!
I think it was Ward who dealt with the 3 players arround the left wing as best any 1 player could!! when they scored easily!
he had to be where Zubar was not.
We cab attack byt throwing people forward but are left very exposed!
Johnson?? – I am not usually critical BUT he looks totally out of place. I felt sorry for him. He looked like a primary school kid who had been told he had to play when he does not like playing football. He seems to lack stature, composure and nouse. He may well have done some good stuff too BUT he seems so lost and wandering without being useful. Is that what he is supposed to do? I may be missing his sweeeper role?
Fletcher – what quality, him and SEB would be a good team when SEB gets match fit.
Hunt – Hammill could provide the attacking flair – he is seriously scary.
O’hara – only seen a bit of him and in his passing he looks not to be accurate enough. We need playersd who are confident on the ball and take time – as Fletch does!
Norwich game we were good when we had confidence and when the ref helped us. If only we can become more sound and confident in defence then our attacking flair players will not need to track back as much. Thereby increasing the pressure on the defence
C’mon Ninad do your stuff and let defenders do theirs. Use your talent in the way it should be use.
Defence? chasing balls and not marking.
Even Hennesey I believe could have tried to stop the low level crossshot ball, there was two Wolves players on hand to collect any fumble!
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after reading these posts i must say that billy quiet is the biggest happy clapping moron ever to post on here,go away and support someone else you know like you tell others to your not wanted on here
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Sir Lupi
I really don’t care what you can or can’t stand.
And you do make me laugh.. you accuse me of various things and then continue to spout just about the worst load of drivel I’ve ever read.
And, even more amusingly you are telling me to stay away. Are you Steve Morgan then? maybe the owner of the club?
Many thanks for the laugh, It really has cheered up my day !
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Would like to wish every Wolves fan a very merry christmas, even the fans I’ve had a probelm with! at heart we all love the Wolves.
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