All true.

However, the problems are these. We can’t play 4 4 2 without letting in a hat full of goals. The defence are a shambles and we don’t score enough. It’s a toughie. I hope Mick can sort it.

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Good article and all extremely relevent points

The expectation levels are far, far too high at Moleneux and the thing is here, is that Wolves are not even in the bottom three by a long chalk

Up untill the last two games, then it could be said that Albion and their supporters had more to worry about, but in general terms we are a patient lot who tend to be very realistic and see the bigger football picture

Gety rid of Mick and get who exactly?

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Really the question is can McCarthy take Wolves forward? And the answer would appear to be no based on the terrible defending being repeated over and over, even in the promotion winning season, and loyalty towards players who aren’t good enough, notably Henry. That pathetic second half clearance could easily have resulted in a third Swansea goal. We stayed up in season one due to 3 very poor sides. Lasts eason we stayed up because Spurs did us a favour. We couldn’t even control our own destiny then.

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If it wasn’t for Sir Gary Megson, the Albion would be who knows where. But you can’t be sentimental in football. Its obvious to an Albion fan that he (MM) has reached his plato, and you need someone to take you to the next level.

I’m not sure who you could get in though? And I think thats the problem for your board. If you don’t change, I see it as a season of struggle for you. You haven’t played any of the top teams yet and have droped 4 points at home against two of the promoted teams.

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I totally agree with the sentiments of Tim’s blog. However, I always start to worry when a chairman issues a statement giving a vote of confidence to the manager.

All those dissatisfied fans should really think about the last sentance in the above article. I seem to rembember a line from a Joni Mitchell song which seems apt: “you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone”.

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well said!

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I’ve been a supporter of MM since he was appointed, and a Wolves supporter since the 60′s. MM has been a positive for Wolves and I still believe he can take us further BUT against QPR he plays our best defender upfront when we know they have good wing attacker. And then he played E-B upfront on Sat, instead of an additional midfielder. His team selection does not support our currently weak defence. Yes the changes on Sat “turned the game” but maybe the two mid-fielders instead of E-B and a winger may have been a better option to tie down Swansea, and put pressure on their defence. A long hard winter but always hope. Chris

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best bit of business albion did was sack di matteo and get hodgson in – we are stuck with gary megson-esque mick mccarthy and going knowhere

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I have to agree with you Mr Spiers-you must keep McCarthy :)

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Tims usual one sided biased comments. Does Steve Morgan really know what he is doing, anybody who guarantees a manager his job regardless of results doesn’t spell out common sense to me. Mick has had long enough and as for his now infamous “don’t you know who I am comments” and apparent willingness to fight anybody. It merely confirms the wrong man is in the job. Pity he cant instil the same fight in the players after yet another abysmal and clueless performance. Yes he got us up and yes he will take us down.

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Tim, you along with many others miss the point. Results and performances over the time in the prem clearly indicate the manager is out of his depth. In this time he has spent a lot more money than most clubs in the bottom half of the table. Is it not a huge indictment of the manager that Craddock is probably still the best cb at the club for example? How many cb’s has he bought – answer, a lot.
I am not going to spend time going through the lack of quality in the squad – HIS SQUAD -and he has to take responsability for it.
I honestly believe that when the fans boo at the game all of their anger is directed at the manager not the players.
The squad is inadequate and the money spent does not reflect that. The manager is responsible.
Apart from this we have the managers totally unacceptable treatment of fans. Numpties, Nuggets and the latest four letter abuse. The owners and ceo’s silence on this horrendous behaviour is also totally unacceptable.
The squad is poor and his behaviour is moronic and embarassing. HE MUST GO

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Another report and pundit blaming the wolves fans for our dismal run of form. Im sorry but unlike you E&S writers we have to fork out £34 to watch wolves get torn apart by newly promoted swansea therfore i think we do have a say and have everyright to express our feelings towards the club. If you as a football pundit genuinely believe the subs made a difference then your in the wrong job. The only sub that had an impact was vokes and that was a token gesture!!

I for one will hold my hands up and say Mccarthy has done a great job. Theres no doubting that but unfortunately hes taken the club as far as he can now. Granted were not a top 10 team but another relegation battle is not what we want either. I wont disrespect Swansea but if we dont beat teams like them and Qpr are home where are we getting our points from??? Mick unfortunately has a complete lack of respect for the fans that pay his wages. In the past hes stuck by players like Andy Keogh and Neil Collins week in week out! Where are they now? Hes doing the same with Henry, stearman, johnson, berra, ohara when any of those players could be dropped for there performances. Unfortunately Micks EGO is really starting to show and its extreamly frustrating. Its not the fans fault for how the team performs. How do they expect us to get excited when were sitting there watching swansea tear us apart. They need to give us something to shout about!!!

I have alot of respect for what Mick has done for this club and i for one would not abuse him, however, i do think it is time to move on now

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Well said Tim!!
I felt utterly ashamed to be a Wolves fan on Saturday when the mindless morons in the South Bank voiced their vitriol; this was clearly a situation waiting to happen as there were rumours of a protest against MM being staged before the game,not usre if this happened?
The whole atmosphere on Saturday was one of ‘Lets wait until something goes wrong and then we’ll let him have it!’.
Why can’t they just support the team and take their little tantrums up the road because the mindless few are ruining it for the majority. We will not survive in this unforgiving league unless we are all pulling together through thick and thin.
MM has done a superb job at Molinuex since the idiot Hoddle walked out at the exact moment in time he considered would cause us the most damage.
Bring on Man City and let’s all pull together

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The problem with mm way of football is that its one dimensional. Its always back to the keeper, boot it, lose the ball, win it back, knock it to the flanks and get a cross in. We don’t show good solid passing football enough and we don’t seem split up opposition defence. We don’t have a plan B. Swansea gave us that point on sat by taking of their best players. You say its hard to establish your self in the prem well look at stoke. The players did not look motivated in which its the managers job to do that. that’s before you look at team selection i mean if it was say alex ferguson in charge then changes to the starting line up would of happened games ago. The one manager who i believe can take this club forward is Mark Hughes we just need different ideas

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Does one expect fans to sit quiet watching shit defending, a midfield being overrun by the mighty Swans and a series of crosses to no one in particular in the final third as the idea of creative play? I do not support booing and harrassment, but one cannot really expect 20000+ fans behaving as if participating in an academic discussion when so much is so wrong as on Saturday. If anyone seriously thinks the conflict between fans, manager and some players (e.g. our idiot captain) is the fault of our fans only, they seriously underestimate our problemes.

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I completely agree that Mick deserves a bit longer to try and sort us out of this mess, but in the long run, Mick is not the man to take us forward.

If he gets us out of this awful run (which I think he will) and scraps to keep us up again this season then I’ll be happy. But give him another 3 or 4 seasons in the Premiership and I don’t see us doing any better than 14-17.

By that time we will have been in the Premier League for 6-7 seasons, and I think we will need a change of manager to turn us into a top 10/comfortably mid-table club.

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Your basic argument is that we are better off than anytime in the last 30 years, so McCarthy stays.

UTTER TOSH.

We are that way, because SJH sold the club worth millions for 10 pounds, in return for 30 million investment – and writing off all debts. CAN I SAY AGAIN< THANKS SJH!!!!

Given that platform – we should be doing better. I am sure Steve would agree.

Compare Man City today, and Wolves of the early-mid 80s – what is the big difference? Its not the fans and their passion, and their derision and frustration drawn from that passion!!!

Its the money coupled with a good manager.

Now, it seems we have some money, not alot, but some. And maybe the reluctance to spend was wiser than we thought if Roger Johnson is the kind of waster we would buy with the money.

I dont like to say it. But its time for Management CHange.

Thanks MIck, (I wont say the same to the overpaid Moxey) but as a custodian of this club, Steve's priority needs to be bigger than loyalty & friendship to an individual and to building a sustainable premiership club.

So – after making the biggest idiot this club has ever had (excluding since convicted criminals) in Roger Johnson captain, i have to say Mick, you have to go. And i suspect on reflection on the golf course you would agree.

Who to get? I leave that with Steve. The club is in his hands and the decisions he makes make the most difference of all to us.

p.s. i know a few people Mick who could happily take your offer so i would be careful with that, not everyone is a pre-madonna like a premiership footballer

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Tim
In my long time of supporting THE WOLVES (1947) my first match. I have seen managers and players of all quality come and go.

I have watched the team I love go up and down the leagues.
BUT, the only manager who in my humble opinion who has been better than Mick M is the late Stan Cullis. Who took me on as a schoolboy, (then sacked me as useless!)

Stick with Mick he may not be everyone’s cup of tea but he is the man for the job here and now.
Up The Wolves

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Well Tim, are you in for some free tickets or what?? Football is a business, first & foremost, & if any senior member or executive of a business produced such woeful results as WWFC are at the moment, they would be out on their ear sharpish!! Steve Morgan shouldn’t sit back & hope for the best, he should make the difficult & best decisions to keep is investment growing. He needs to address the fact that match prices & refreshments are far too high for a start. He needs to address the fragility of the team out on the pitch & give the supporters (the lifeblood of any team) something to get excited about instead of being treated as “cash cows”. He needs to address the anomosity between the supporters & the manager/team otherwise support will dwindle even more than it is at present. Lets see & hear more from our chairman about his vision of the future, his vision of the present & what he is going to about both.

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Having watched Saturday’s painful efforts – the reality is that we cannot play with 2 wingers that do not get involved enough.

I am not knocking the two winger pesonally – its the system where we are not strong enough to have two out and out wingers that float into and more often as not out of the game.

We have to find a system where we are more solid and harder to breakdown even if that is 4-5-1. AS FOR THE defending, do we have a defensive coach? and if so is he on school holidays this week, because to say it was schoolboy is demeaning to the under 12′s.

Let get some better coaching into the team ASAP.

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Stand up the king of happy clappers

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all well and good and said as expected, but that performance, the 85 mins on Saturday , defied belief. we were so poor it was sad to see. IF the Chairman believes that MM has the capability to succeed in the long term and craft a better squad, then it needs to be shown because swansea played us off the park

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I genuinely believe that the majority of supporters were as sick as MM and the players at their woeful performance in the first half on Saturday.The wise can see that this was a collective lack of confidence. All those wearing a gold shirt have done and will do the job, but certainly not when backed by these mindless morons. Hopefully Steve Morgan is every bit the leader he appears to be and stand firm with his manager as the rest of us should be. Wonder if Man.U. fans will now be calling for Fergusons head after Sundays humiliation…some will – thats the mentality of some fans no matter what club they ‘support’.

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The Surgeon – Name them then. Or is it going to be the same old rubbish of O’neil, who we dont stand a chance of getting, even if we had the funds that he requires to manage at this level.

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yes he his done well to get us up but this is
the 3 season and we are no better if anything
worse, he had money and wasted half of it on
player he never played so how long should we
waite i have been coming for years 58 years
and i think he has taken us as far as he can.
i watch all our matchs and most the premanship matchs and i can not see 3 more team poorer than us
at moment so time for a change now.

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Frankly, I have seen enough of MM and Terry Connor to know that they have run their course with WW FC. Yes they have achived a lot but I can not see them taking us further.
This is a results driven industry and their results are not good enough. Come Morgan you have enogh contacts in the business to find a suitable replacement.

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There is no question that McCarthy has taken us forward from where we are.

The question is can he take us forward from where we are now or manage to keep us in the premiership for another season?

That was looking doubtful before Saturday’s game and will be a whole lot harder now he has thrown his rattle out of the pram with the fans. Yes the South Bank was out of order but McCarthy was even more out of order with his reaction.

McCarthy is a well paid professional football manager and critisism/flak from fans is part and parcel of the job when things are going as badly as they are even if its not justified. It would have been far better to just take the heat out of it and talk it down rather than threatening to have a scrap with anyone who wants one.

He’s now got two things to fix (1) an underperforming team and (2) his relationship with the fans. As we know when relationships go sour they are difficult to rebuild.

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Eveytone has a ‘sale by date’ and MM is well past his.
only one option for Morgan which he must take this week, and that is to bid him fairwell

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Yes, it would be nice to get a little leadership from the board. Just something to give us hope for the future.

Fans are panaking, thinking no one is seeing what they are seeing. It would be good for the board to make a statement just letting us know it will all be ok. =)

Things have gone down the pan since the stand was demolished… It is most definatly a big concrete elephant in the room. I hope the build is delayed and some extra funds can be released for team building.

We are still doing better than last year but it’s easy to forget that.

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The logic of your position is that we stick with McCarthy even if we lose the next ten games on the bounce. This makes no sense in a business where people make a difference, and unfortuantely sometimes just lose the plot – witness the difference in Forest’s fortunes, suddenly. MM cannot handle the pressure, in terms of keeping cool and making the right decisions, that is blindingly obvious. His record IN the Premiership, as opposed to getting us there, is also poor. Mr Morgan is surely shrewd enough to see this? And as many have pointed out, why we do have to indulge in sentimental loyalty towards men on huge wages, beyond our imaginations?

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MM is a no nonsense individual who says what he thinks and this attitude puts him at odds with the fans. On many occasions he has said that he has does not care what fans thinks and he goes on his way doing and saying what he thinks which is fine if the teams doing well but its not and for the third year running we are struggling and fans are clearly a bit fed up with all the false dawns not from MM but from SM and JM and MM should be careful that he is not the scapegoat. MM under no circumstances should be abusing the paying fans because it will only antagonise the situation. He should also have a word with a couple of the players who feel justified in also criticising the fans, perhaps they should be told to improve and earn their wages or move on.
The comparison to other teams in the Championship who would gladly swap places with us is irrelevant. I would like Man Citys team but it is not going to happen. Sorry state of affairs.

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5 biggest net spenders in the Premier League since we were promoted. Yet we will scrape up again at best and we’re crazy to not be eternally grateful?
Hmmmm.

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tim, i would argue that mick is one of the best managers of our lifetime but the other one who hardly gets mentioned these days had the same treatment and then owner Hayward made the decision to move forward as that man had taken us as far as he could. That man was Graham Turner. History repeating itself mate, 2 seasons of relegation battles and what is already looking like a third is not progress and this is what is frustrating the fans, premiership footy is expensive and i for one cant afford to keep forking out to watch yet another season of battling for survival, there in a nutshell without pointing the finger at anyone !!
p.s if moxey wants the gates to go up why not give a discount to the masses of unemployed out there, me included.

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tim i agree with most of what you have said but dont you think the fans that pay there money week in week out do have the right to have a say?? yes this club needs sorting out now and fast before the momentum of the fans gets any worse… i feel for mm as he has really tried with this club but i also feel that either steve morgan or jez moxey havn’t released the amount of funds needed to attract the right players needed to keep us in this league…you cant buy good proper premership players on the cheap…..

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Mick’s change of tactics were correct and salvaged a point. 2 wide players are a luxury which soon becomes a liability if they don’t produce the goods (i.e. chances and goals). The two in central midfield are outnumbered and the opposition can turn possession into goals if good enough, or as in Wolves case are opposed by dreadful defenders.
It’s hard to believe that the Johnson that played in the opening 3 games is one and the same player that produced Saturday’s dire performance.
Mick has been a great motivator and his past Wolves’ sides have always bounced back from adversity, but other defenders have to be given more of a chance, and the captaincy has to be restored to the consistent and dependable Karl Henry.

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Best manager ? What is his win percentage ?
Then you say if we go down keep him ?
Why ?
Qpr & Swansea have come from champion and how do we do ?
Last season last game …MUST WIN !! Then 3 goals down !!
Saturday again Must win Game ….1 point !!
We need a change or we will get less that 20,000 in the ground.
This is my 46th season with missing less that 30 games !
How many have you been to ?

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Absolute utter tripe to state that Henry & Ward have been our best players in the last two matches when Wayne Hennessey was solely responsible for keeping us only 2 down to a side that was playing Championship football last season but looked light years ahead of Wolves in footballing terms.You quote teams who would happily swap places with us, well i will quote you teams that were in a similar position to us in recent years & ask you if Newcastle, WBA (both had foresight to change their managers) Stoke (since Moxey departed) & even last years promoted sides Norwich, Swansea & QPR would swap places with us. I think not !! MM’s stubborness in selecting his favourite players redardless of form will ultimately lead to certain relegation.

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Here we go again
Sack the manger, spend a load of money we havent got and all will be great.
What kind of message do these so called fans send to a prospective manager? I will tell you what ” we are a load of deluded, fickle idiots” Sure sack Mick and some one will take the job but will do any better or feel as committed as Mick? Doubtful… he will try his luck, expect the worst and the sack (plus his payoff), sooner rather than later.
To those who say “i pay my money and thus i am entitled to say what i want” then i say “dont pay your money and go and wreck the morale of the team down the road”
For me we are in a better situation than at any time in the last 2 decades. sure its not what we want….but i want a Ferrari…however i wont get one by spitting my dummy.
Lets every one get real because if the players and management continue to be treated this way, we will get what we deserve ….Relegation.

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What is this,we are ok to praise Mick,but we are not allowed to boo himself or any of the players incase we upset them,what a joke.Its too easy to blame US fans,I was there on Saturday,I also recorded it on Sky,and I can say that Don Goodman and his fellow commentator were ready to have a go at the Wolves Fans as soon as the match started,I was in the North Bank,and the instigators of ,,your getting sacked in the morning,,was the Swansea fans,yes some Wolves Fans joined in (me included)but it wasnt started by Wolves.I am not making excuses,My hands are up,I want mick gone,its ok saying we have short memories,ok he got us up,but is that it??? number 4 comment on here said our expectation level is to high,,iff expecting to beat Swansea or QPR on our own turf is expecting too much,we might as well pack in..Tim iff Mick McCarthy is the best Wolves manager of your lifetime,let someone else with more experience wright your blog,,as a club we will not progress with Mick McCarthy,he is to arrogant,he plays his favourites even iff they are out of form,,he refuses to start Guedioura,Doherty was man of the match against Liverpool,we havnt seen him since..And as for your comments about Henry and Wardy,it just goes to show,that iff you come up with the goods,you get loved by the Wolves Fans,dont do your job and you get slated,Whats wrong with that???Do you people honestly believe we would pay fourty quid just to slag our team off,,what the Don Goodmans,the Mick McCarthys,and the media seem to forget is wthout us they would be working in a factory.we pay to watch Wolves,they get paid for watching Wolves,we are entitled to our oppinion.

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First of all, Mick McCarthy has done the finest job at this club since John Barnwell won the League Cup in 1980.

However, managers have a shelf life and has Mick reached the end of his?

Swansea City and QPR for long periods of the games against up tore our team to shreads with precise passing and excellent movement.

I think that is a lot wrong with the club both on and off the pitch. When Roger Johnson joined us heb said that there were more played to come in. What happened?

What we got was a press conference stating that the club was happt with the business it did. Are the board of directors happy now?

Tactically we are very very poor at the moment with limited movement and a team that believes the best form of attack is either hoofing the ball up from the back or to pass sideways to someone else to have the responsibility.

There is also no emphasis of players wearing the shirt on merit or long term planning to get youth players into our first team. Only Wayne Henessey has done this with any real success since Mick has been in charge.

What goes wrong between the training pitch and matchday? Surely there is more at fault that out of form players?

One thing is sure however Mick has not lost the respect of the players yet, because as soon as that happens then he has no chance of turning this round.

Whatever people think Mick took us into this league so he deserves a chance of keeping us in it.

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Before the Newcastle game, I read a blog from one of their fans outlining what Newcastle needed to do in order to get at Wolves and beat us. (unfortunately I can’t find it anymore to post on here)

Nothing to do with keep the fans subdued and they’ll turn on the team by the way.

It was all blindingly obvious stuff – absolutely true and I think after the opening two games, every team looks at the same two paragraphs and realises that it really is as simple as that to beat us.

In essence, it highlighted the lack of mobility in our defence, how the full backs push up leaving the space behind them and how Newcastle should exploit that space, pushing the immobile centre halves over there and leaving wide gaps in the middle for runners. Sound familiar?! This is pretty much how we’ve been undone for 80% of our goals this season.

McCarthy fails to change tactics when we’ve been ‘found out’ – as witnessed over the years when he’s cost us points trying to prove his tactical prowess sticking with players and formations and when changes have been forced upon him, our fortunes turn.

This season, with Jarvis bang out of form and a clearly unfit Kightly tried, it’s abundantly clear that our 4-4-2 just isn’t working. Little wonder when we went for a significant tactical change on Saturday we started getting somewhere.

I fear for us a lot this season – unless Fletcher gets back fit to bail us out at the one end and Jody can give us one more age-defying season at the other (I have no confidence in MM’s transfer market skills at buying centre halves on past performance) then we’re in deep do-do.

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Tim ,how much is Morgan paying you to write this tosh? I quote”our chairman keeps a dignified low profile and he comes across as a man who cares a great deal about the club?”Where is the evidence of this? A Liverpool supporter who was given the club for a tenner after Sir Jack wrote his debt off, I bet he couldnt believe his luck.He has hardly given Mick any money to spend this season while we are building a stand that will never be full.Can anyone explain to me after we very nearly got relegated why we only bought one player this season?Where is the sense in that? I feel sorry for Mick,because I dont think he is being supported in the transfer market. He has made mistakes but I think he is being made the whipping boy for a situation that is not his fault.As for the club being well run,we are making a profit ,I grant you that.However let me point out the things which point to fact things arent all that rosy! falling attendances, no good youngsters coming through,disgruntled fans,no decent cup runs ,a seemingly annual battle with relegation!!.

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Well…here e go again. There are always two sides to every story and the last things that the club wants or needs is to continue with the fallout from factions of supporters with completely different opinions.
Having said that there are questions to be addressed and, for me, the main one is that how can anyone expect that the addition of one first team player (RJ) during the summer will make any significant difference to a team that stopped up last season by the skin of its teeth.
We needed a left sided player and bought Van Damme – He left and we got the money back but didn’t replace.
Goals were lacking over the two previous seasons – hasn’t been addressed. There isn’t any alternative to Karl Henry who does his best week in, week out but maybe lacks quality thus not allowing the club to progress. There is Cristophe Berra who seems to think football involves grabbing opposing players constantly instead of trying to play football.
I could go on but would prefer to hope that the club addresses a lack of quality in coaching staff and starts to look to buy first team, and not squad, players.
If Mick can’t then make progress then there isn’t any choice but he has earned the right to have a chance…….let’s hope that he’s sensible enough to listen and learn.
Afetr all we all want the same thing!!!!!

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If we don`t get rid now it`ll be too late and we`ll be down before the christmas decorations.

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So the Fridge thinks Mick has reached his “plato” – no wonder your comments sound all Greek to me!

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so big bad mick wants to fight the people who pay his wages.i put it to him that if he worked as hard as some of us people he may stand a chance of winning.but as he is such a soft touch he wouldnt stand a chance.as for team selection get some balls mick play the reserves in the league show mr johnson and a few others just who is in charge and you may just get the respect of the fans back.would you like to sit in the stands and watch yr bteam get murdered every week???

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After all my years as a season ticket holder,these obnoxious,so called supporters,have finally driven me away from the Molineux.I do not see why I should have to sit in such a hostile atmosphere to watch my team play at home.If I support my team,it`s drowned out by vitriolic obscenities,all aimed at our own players & manager.Where`s the sense in that?Hardly conducive to anything constructive.
These so called supporters are also alienating any other prospective manager or player who could be touted to come to Wolves.What person in their right mind would want to come here & stand with their back to such objectionable people,who at the first sign of faltering,would want to stick something in it.
Very sad times at the Golden Palace.

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Jiwal, you have completely over stepped the mark this time…

The Stone Roses were awesome.

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we should of sacked him the day we went up ive been here a long time before him and i will be here a long time after he,s gone

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for me watching the Swansea game confirmed something.The team is divided.Ive heard rumours of two camps in the dressing room for a while but looking at that on saturday only confirmed it for me.They are not playing collectivley.RJ is not captain material at the moment and should step up the plate or step down.MM needs to shake it up on the coaching side.If not well…
Maybe playing MCFC twice this week is the best thing for us.Lets face were not expected to get anything out of either game..

We are Wolves

ps anybody heard the one that Fletcher isnt injured?

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JIWAL – the Stone Roses are Wolves rubbish? Steps and the Albion for you I expect?

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Absolute disgrace those chants to the manager what good is it gonna do but make the team more down than they already feel,chants of you don’t know what your doing proved you wrong, obviously he did know what he was doing and it worked I take a point any day any gameso leave off it will come right very soon,

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Yes its all the fans fault,
Manager out of his depth, thats the fans fualt
Happy with the team thats the fans fault
Championship team in the Prem Thats the fans fault
Tim in your world no one would ever move on, or get sacked, lets face it the whole back 4 are no Good and never will be prem quality, and thats the fans fault, i mean tim we have also taken 2 points from the last 18 thats the fans fault also.
So lets keep MM for the next 20 years, then his son Steven can step into his job.
After 3 years in the prem we are a very poor team, but have money in the bank, and that Tim is def the fans fault.

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I just read this tosh and as for some of the comments on here supporting a man who can only be described as one of the worst football managers of all time I am astounded. Mr Morgan will not do what is needed, that is the sad truth. The this manager will continue on his directionless shambling way and Wolves will continue to be dreadful. The only way to get things changed is for people to boycott the Mol. Morgan is a money man, deprive him of the money and things will change. Don’t worry all you wearers of rose coloured spectacles, it won’t happen, you will get to keep the arrogant, objectionable, offensive and wholly disrespectful fool who is dragging our club through the mud. He is an absolute abomination but who cares what I think? I’m just a LONG, LONG time fan of what used to be a club with ambition.

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Tim Spiers misses the essential truth in that football will always be subject to heated whims and passions. This is football, not an Enid Blyton adventure. It will always hold the element of pantomime where supporters cheer or boo. Any manager has to have shoulders broad enough to deal with these highs and lows. Perhaps he should balance the argument with objective journalism and consider that to watch Wolves gift the opposition a two-goal lead in our last 4 league games at Molineux, would have cost the average fan well over a hundred pounds – incidentally, just a fraction of McCarthy’s weekly salary.

I thought it was the job of newspapers to hold the powerful to account, not criticize the pent up frustrations of working-class punters with attacks of thinly veiled snobbery. Wolves fans are no different to any other set of supporters – eg, Sunderland fans and Steve Bruce; Blackburn and Kean; Liverpool and Hodgson; Forest and McClaren. Of course we are lucky compared to those other clubs fallen on hard times but it would me madness to squander such a privileged position in exchange for keeping a manager who can take us no further. It is simply not a professional attitude to dine out on the laurels of 2008-2009. No FTSE company would accept big losses but then invoke profits from 3 years ago. West Brom have Megson and Di Matteo to be grateful for but they were ruthless and it worked. We need the same ruthlessness from Morgan.

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‘Wolves supporters have become a laughing stock….”

It’s true that we are being laughed at for supporting team that is simply not going anywhere under this manager.

Your point about the owner is the only valid one you make. He has made the money available, not the hundreds of millions that the top four clubs pee away every season, but he has made the money available and has been fiscally responsible. Both laudable, and to be honest I would rather be supporting a team that is successful because we have a well managed well drilled team that care about Wolverhampton Wanderers rather than one that basically is buying the premier league like the so called big four do. However our manager has spent that money and we re no better off as a result.

I mispoke when I said that your point about the owner was the only valid point you made because in your first two paragraphs you said things that make your subsequent defense of the manager seem ridiculous. The team looked “rudderless”, against a Swansea team that was both technically and tactically” superior. How does that not reflect on the manager????

I don’t think that we have a bad group of players, they seem to be whole hearted enough, but none of them have improved since joining us and simply look confused as to what they are supposed to be doing once the whistle blows. More indictment of the manager.

The only thing I agree with in what you said is that players are certainly aware if the general tone in the groiund is hostile towards them and that is not helping, but I think the frustration is less with the players than it is with the tactics or lack thereof….well maybe with the exception of Johnson and Henry. But maybe their lack of form and ideas is to do with the confused message they get from the manager and they are playing outside of their natural instincts.

It’s easy to be a supporter of Manchester United, because they win, we are critisized because we get on the managers case not for six games as you accuse us, but because of two and a quarter seasons of being laughed at for being Wolves supporters. Did you notice all of those “loyal” United supportes streaming out of Old Trafford with twenty minutes to go? They won’t put up with it for 90 minutes never mind two and a quarter seasons.

Yes we are all grateful for being in the premiership, but past results did nothing to keep the legend, Stan Cullis in a job, when things went nbad in the early sixties, nor the ubderrated and forgotten Ronnie Allen who bought players like Wagstaffe and Dougan amongst other, that set Wolves up for a decent ten year spell, so don’t bring up loyalty as a reason we should support mediocrity.

We all know that we have no divine right to be in the top level, the 50′s are just a era a few of us remember but we do have right to expect that our manager would be in the top twenty managers in the country, tactically and strategically, which your opening comments so astutely indicate is not the case.

I don’t doubt the mans commitment or passion for the team and the game…..just his competence. I have never booed a Wolves team or a Wolves player, and I never will, (that’s probably not true as I have supported them for over fifty years and have seen some rubbish on occasions) but the Wolves organization, and you, have it wrong if you and they feel the problem is on the terraces. Ask Alex Ferguson how he felt when the City fans were chanting “you’re getting fired in the morning”. There are twenty thousand plus folks at Moliniuex wha have had to suffer similar humiliations on a regular basis.

If there is a concern that the fans are a laughing stock give us some results to make us proud again, I don’t think this manager can do that consistently.

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Wolves 5 N Forest 1 2008

Wolverhampton: Hennessey, Foley, Collins, Stearman, Stephen Ward, Kightly (Gray 77), David Jones, Henry, Jarvis (Edwards 66), Iwelumo, Ebanks-Blake (Keogh 65).

Why can these eight out of eleven players who are still in the squad not replicate one of the finest displays of attacking football I have seen?

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harrywolf brightonwolf yes its the fans fault !! please get a life. i didnt see 1 fan on the pitch but i did see 10 outfield players wearing a wolves shirt not putting in a shift as mm would say.
At the start of the season many people said they were worried at lack of quality players comming in and said 1 player RJ would not be enough to help this club,
players being picked when out of form players constantly being played out of position.
I could go on but its all been said before which goes to show there must be a problem.
So every fan that wants this club to do well and voices there oppinion should go no more !! that would leave 2 to 4 thousand left in the ground, i could be wrong but it sounded like the majority voicing thier oppinion (no need for bigger ground then)
I have had this argument with many a fan over the backing the team and nearly come to blows because i for 1 sing my hart out trying to get the croud going but at the same time i voice my oppinion if players are not giving 100% and i hate being told i should get behind a team that is blaitenly taking the p-ss by someone who dosent sing at all.
sir alex once said that he believes players of other clubs cheat thier fans because its amazing how much more effert they put in when playing bigger clubs. I for 1 have thought that for many years but this current squad untill recently have been giving 100%, but that in itself is not enough you have to have quality which mm clearly dosent like to be given a chance.

UTW

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Well said Tim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I haven’t been on here for a little while, but I think I would like my opinion to be shared now.

Last season, when things were really looking bad and Wolves were pretty much down and out, I did state that I thought MM should go, but as we all know, we stayed up and of course MM is still our manager.

Yes we did get lucky last season with results on the last day BUT, its results throughout the season that all helped towards our Survival Sunday tally. The majority of fans stuck with MM and I personally think this is what we should be doing at the moment and definately not berating him at matches. In addition, of course its frustrating sometimes, but leave the players alone too… at least whilst the match is going on!!

I don’t really know why we have had such a drop in form since those heady August days, but its not just down to the manager and whether he has got it right or wrong.

We are never going to be world-beaters…well not for a while yet and lets face it, we are one of the poorer sides in the Premier. BUT we are there and with a bit more patience and what is looking a weaker league, I think we will pull through ok.

I would hasten to add though that we could do with getting in some more players in January as the current squad is really down to the ‘bare-bones’. I am very proud of being a Wolves fan and also being connected to what is a very soundly run business, but do recognise that we need to go a little more to capture some more high-profile players.

WE ARE WOLVES!!!

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Mick McCarthy needs therapy.
He has lost the plot.
He has lost the support of the fans.
He has lost the respect of the players.
You article sounds like one from the 70′s, bemoaning the loss of Stan Cullis.
Who are you loyal too the club, or the 3 M’s?
We will be with the Derby, Forest, Hull, Portsmouth next season if we keep a psychologically disturbed manager.
Trying to justify idiocy does no one any favours.
Where are you Mr Morgan?

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I think the players and fans confidence is at an all time low and its down to Mick. He has played Ward up front in place of Vokes, He keeps playing Jarvis who has been clueless for months ahead of Hunt and Hammill, He tried a total unfit Kightly ahead of Hunt and Hammill, He tried a total unfit Edwards ahead of Milijas, Matt Doherty is a right back and he keeps playing Stearman who will never be a good right back. He plays George when he should never be played in the Prem League. Its no wonder everybody thinks Mick is a fool and I am sure he has lost the dressing room by doing the above.

Taxi for Mick please before the next must win game which I fear will be well before the last game of this season!!

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“moulded in his own image” – Do you actually remember his style of play ? Not exactly blessed with natural football talent (hoof it anywhere ) but was an honest pro.It was sad to see those scenes at Molineux , the chants were too extreme .Everyone I speak to who are not Wolves fans like MM but mainly for his gruff but amusing soundbites. (Although Millwall fans said he would take us so far – which he has – but then runs out of fresh ideas.)However,to me, he is a typical Yorkie – they are always right and stubborn with it.The frustrating thing to me is the lack of tactical awareness . We have some good players but they are played out of position / warming the bench……zzzzzzzzzzzz. Everyone is saying it . By all means keep him there but puleeeze get in a coach with a tactical brain that can utilise the players in the very best way .
Up the Wolves !!

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I can’t believe what I’m reading. MM is the best manager we have had since Bill McGarry. Lay off him. He has taken us to the Prem, and kept us there. What more coulod you want?

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I’m sorry Tim, but I beg to differ on this one (though I do enjoy your blogs, thanks!).

To me it’s not about what McCarthy has done for the club, but about whether he is the right man to take it forward. I really think people need to stop confusing the two.

Yes, he has done great things for the club, and yes, he deserves respect for what he has done; perhaps even entry in the Wolves Hall of Fame. For the record, I think Mick McCarthy is a great man, one of principle and honesty, and I think Wolves have been very fortunate to have had him as a leader for the past years.

But that said, I honestly do not believe he has the skills and the capabilities to take Wolves forward from here. I think Mr Morgan needs to now honestly assess his ambitions for the club, and if he really wants to move forward, he needs to bring in the right man for the job. Now! Before we are relegated and caught in another maelstrom of building from scratch.

It’s not personal to Mick McCarthy. It’s not a witch hunt, and it’s not a lack of gratitude. Let’s not get caught up in the emotions of it. It’s purely about ambition and the right man to fulfill it. Just like a politician or a CEO has to make way sometimes for the next person to take over and take a company or country forward, so does Mick McCarthy need to make way for the next person who has the skills to take us up the table.

I honestly hope Mr Morgan is having serious thoughts on this behind the scenes. We need a proved Premiership manager.

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We have all got to thank Mick for what he has done for Wolves. Though i believe his time is up now. Yes he has kept us up twice, but that’s not good enough any more. you say here that it takes more than three seasons too establish a team in the premier league, well that’s not strictly true is it. take stoke city for example. in there first season they stayed up with a couple of games to spare. second season they were Mid table and again last season mid table and runner up in the f.a cup if im not mistaken that’s 3 seasons and they are an established premier league team

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Whether Mick can take us any further or whether anyone else who would be genuinely interested in the job could do better are both matters of opinion (it does appear that most Managers have a ‘shelf life’ and sometimes, as with Albion last season, a change can provide a useful spring board).

The blog makes a very solid point though in respect to expectation – yes we may have spent significant sums of money on transfers in our time in the Premiership but it is comparative chicken feed. In signing one player, Villa (who, despite still being the regions largest club, are now no better than a mid table side) outspent us last season.

For me the crux in respect to attracting players is salary (we have lost out on several players because of this in the last couple of years) and in no way have we underachieved in this regard – through-out our time in the Premiership, we will have consistently been in the bottom four or five clubs in respect to wage bill.

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Tim, the question should not be Can Morgan do any thing about but more WILL HE?Herein lies the problem,results come second to the profit he is generating,Moxey cares more about profits not trophies.The fans deserve better than the weekly dross being served up by mm and his cronies.How people on this forum can critisize hardworking folk who love their saturday afternoon following a lifetime of devotion to WOLVES is beyond comprehension.
Mind you i bet JohnWolf looks great going to bed in his MM pyjamas snuggled under his Moxey Duvet.

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Tim this site is right you are a twit

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so replace clipboard with wilkins nice idea but do you really think mick will take a blind bit of notice of him !!!naaaaaah

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in what other business, and yes wolves is a business, would a manager get away with calling any customer and yes we are only customers the moxey and morgan. muppets, numpties, and offer them out for a scrap without getting the sack.morgan would surely not let a site boss tell a customer who was buying a house he was a numpty.i think mm has now lost the majority of wolves fans. and i cant see anyway back for him now. its time for him to go

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Your rather dismal article overlooks one fundamental point, the word you have missed is “ambition”. Rather than being grateful for small mercies what is wrong with wanting to improve, the plan is to turn Wolves into a top 8 team and this is not going to happen with McCarthy in control. Just look at our brave appointment of Graham Turner at a time when Brian Little was popular and learning his trade. The move took us from Division 4 to Division 2 in 3 years and the gave us the legend that is Steve Bull, that is progress. Then david Jones took us on the next step and promotion, followed by Mick McCarthy and promotion and staying up. This is all progress and now we are ready for that next step and need a manager to achieve that.
As for McCarthy being our best manager in your life time, are you 20 ?, what about Barnwell, McGarry and most of all Turner.

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This Wolves team is not a premier league team, they looked so bad against Swansea and losing like they did against QPR and West Brom shows we have major problems, we have 8 points, I can’t see them getting 30, Roger Johnson was a mistake and making him captain a bigger one, its not all Mick’s fault, however, I think we need a change at the top.
The fans deserve better, last season was down to the last minutes before we knew we were safe, I think we will know our destiny this year long before the last game of the season.

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I have never felt as alienated from the club I so adore as I do at this moment in time!

This is the result of the actions of our limited, stubborn and contemptuous manager, which have been allowed to continue unabated by the local media – who, conscious to keep him on-side, fail to make him truly accountable to the concerns and feelings of supporters.

Regarding the manager; never has a Wolves manager in recent history consistently treated the supporters with such contempt as McMarthy has done and continues to do. McCarthy’s expletive outburst towards fans jeering his substitutions on Saturday was simply the latest in a long line of actions/comments he has made, which illustrate his utter disregard for the paying public.

As those in the media know all too well, McCarthy can be a spikey character, and one who doesn’t take too kindly to opinions which question/challenge those of his own. Supporters who have an opinion which differs from those of his own are simply and routinely referred to as ‘numpties’, and he nearly always makes a subtle, yet deliberate, point of failing to mention the contribution of supporters when he publicly discusses the fortunes of the team/club. However, fully aware of the pressure he was under last week due to his team’s recent short-comings and results, he conveniently decides to call for ‘unity’ between supporters and the team – something he has never bothered to promote before – in an attempt to save him some time.

So in response to this blog’s suggestion that MM is deserving of supporter’s ‘respect and patience’ – do me a favour; when has McMarthy ever shown ‘respect’ to the tens of thousand of loyal supporters? Not only has he never done this, as i’ve said, he has shown nothing but disregard and contempt towards those who pay his wages.

Regarding the local media(including, predictably, e&s bloggers), they sadly also show complete disregard for what supporters are really saying re the team and manager.

If I read/hear another journalist (whether it be the Wolves correspondent for this paper or Radio WM/Beacon) ask McMarthy a question with the insinuation that it is the perceptions of the supporter’s in order to keep him on-side and not get his ‘back-up’, when in actual fact, it is not – e.g. that the team doesn’t work hard enough – I will scream. Coincidently, if theres anything positive that supporters have universally recognised in McMarthy’s teams, its that they are exceptionally hard working.

However, its this very preference for ‘graft’ over quality, along with McMarthy’s blind loyalty to certain players, that are the two most significant factors behind the faltering fortunes of the team over the last two and third seasons – a club whose net-outlay is the fifth highest in the Premier League!

Similarly, suggestions that supporters have ‘short memories’ in forgetting what McMarthy did for us in getting us promoted – which supporters are these? Just a casual glance at the messages on these pages will illustrate the recognition there is for what McMarthy did in getting us into the BPL, but that also, the last two and third years have clearly illustrated that he cannot take us any further.

The fact that we are the fifth-highest net-spenders in the BPL during the last 3 seasons, and that we are probably the hardest working team in the division tells you one thing – we are not, nor have ever been since getting promoted, GOOD ENOUGH WHERE IT MATTERS! For all McMarthy’s rhetoric over the previous two seasons that we have played some decent football at times; the reason why we have spent the vast majority of the last two seasons in the relegation zone (escaping the drop last season by 3 minutes and by default – given that we only scored the goals and got the points that kept us up towards the end of the season because Doyle was injured and he had no choice but to pick Fletcher) is because we do not have the quality, coupled with genuine BPL experience, that is required to do more than just avoid relegation in the division.

Wolves supporters are not stupid, and our genuine feelings deserve a great deal more respect and credence that they are being afforded by both manager and press.

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Keogh is on loan to Leeds, permanent move in january.

Maierhofer left to a club in Austria.

Griffiths is on loan to Hibs,which they want to extend. Scored his first two goals in the last match for them.

Wolves didn’t bring in any strikers during the summer.
That’s one of the reasons, the biggest one, why we’re in trouble now. We all shouted for a signing in case of injury of our two strongest strikers. That’s my biggest disappointment this season. The board and the manager gambled, took a chance and lost. But they got one opportunity to make things right – the january transfer window. And I don’t doubt they’ll do exactly that. It’s just a pity we just have to wait until january.

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Tim, you are as nausiating as ever!

I’m a Mick McCarthy fan & I do believe he will take the club forward…but its clear that him & his players have created the hostile enviroment themselves, Mick’s doing nothing to improve relations.

Johnson should have been publically condemned by the club for his disgraceful comments, and the fact that all the response we got was ‘Henry +10′ speaks volumes.

Luckily Karl Henry isn’t the scapegoat Johnson claims him to be…otherwise Henry would have been verbally crucified for losing at Albion & then for being part of the shockingly bad Swansea display. Anyone that knows anything about Wolves should know Karl Henry is thought of as a top bloke, a 100% Wolves man…but there’s always been tactical debates on where & when to play him or drop him.

Obviously Johnson hasn’t been fined as he’s at it again with his disrespectful ‘short memories’ comments. But what would he know…he wasn’t here when the fans lifted the club off the bottom of the table with their undying support.

Johnson could easily have said what actually happened, which would have been something like

“the fans were delighted with the attacking substitutions which changed the game and their magnificent support nearly got us a result out of nothing. Yes they may have been a little sarcastic cause they thought the changes should have happened sooner…and they turned out to be right. Its a wonderful club with fantastic fans. Did you get that bit Daily Mail, Daily Mirror…best fans ever! No, no it was nothing personal against Karl Henry…they love him, he 100% Wolves..they simply appreciated the attacking substitution which was always going to be at any defensive midfielders expense when were losing heavily.. Did I mention we have great fans”

But no…he chose to invent a ‘Henry’s a scapegoat’ story when he’s clearly not…and announced to the world that our fans are a disgrace. Fantastic leadership.

Morgan’s next big signing really should be a world class spin doctor to get themselves out of this mess.

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Can’t believe some of the comments on here , DiMateo down the road was sacked after half a season in the prem and whilst still in a better position than MM, he also got promoted like MM.
That wasn’t good enough for WBA there management who always seem to be a step or two ahead of ours, could see the writing on the wall and they took the difficult decision and changed to Hodgson , they’ve had a tough start to the season but have beaten us and Villa in a week accumulating 6x as many points as we’ve managed in a third of the games , we have lost home to QPR drawn with Swansea taken 1 point from 18 after 5yrs £49m, this is acceptable ? Well it’s not to me ! If we had lost to Man U and Chelsea OK.
I am not satisfied with hanging on by the fingernails , first year in the PL OK but then you should be progressing like Stoke , N’castle etc Do we not have enough about us to compete with ;Fulham,Wigan,QPR , Bolton ,Stoke , Albion,Swansea,Norwich etc
It’s not unrealistic to expect to compete with teams of the above stature ,Is it ?

MM’s record speaks for its self , he thinks he’s on a par with Guardiola and he seems to have convinced Morgan and some of you on here , Well tell me this , where are the facts/statistics to convince me or any other reasonable individual that MM is capable of better than bottom 3or4.What makes some of you think that MM having had 5yrs £49m and his pick of players can do any better in the next year or two than he’s done up to now ?
How many PL clubs would swop us for MM ?
Five years for an x CH to produce a defence like we have , they have been taken apart in the last 6 games by 2 newly promoted sides in their own back yard.And some of you don’t expect better than that ? I bet some of you lot defending MM were really good at whatever sports you played if your personal ambitions matched those you have for our club .
And as for the booing etc I suppose if some of you happy clappers travelled 20 miles and paid £40 for a meal which when it arrived turned out to be corned beef when you had ordered fillet steak you would sit there quietly munching your corned beef and thinking how lucky you were to get it as the chef only had 5yrs and £49m to provide you with it.
Well not me boys I take a pride in my club and I expect them to have pride in themselves from the top down so get it sorted Morgan, if MM were managing your building projects the way he’s managing your football club would he still be in a job??? i.e. last 6 weeks money and resources to build 18 houses site manager McCarthy’s return 1.

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Numpties you don’t pay the wages the TV revenue does. He is our most successful manager for decades. He has built a hard working and honest team which had pride until the fans turned on them. He has managed to keep us up with obvious severe constraints on wages. Hopefully Morgan realises these supporters are utter idiots.

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Yet another blog defending the indefensible!!! Are you guys on the MM payroll?

I wonder how many of the fans would like to have a team of recently promoted no-names that all exhibit good first touch, pass the ball quite accurately most of the time, move off the ball for one another with pace and can score goals? Oh, and yes, have their fair share of players that can take a defender on and beat them with their dribbling skills?

How about we suit up Swansea in our colors and perhaps we will have a shot at both staying up this season and providing some good entertainment for the paying fans!!!

I wonder if Mr.Morgan sat there on Saturday wondering why our team cannot emulate the best attributes of the Swansea team having entered our THIRD season in the Premiership?

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Does booing help the Wolves score goals? Does shouting abuse at players encourage them to play better?

Of course not – so called fans must realise when they react like that they are compounding poor form and making it worse. They may as well pull on the oppositions shirt.

How sad is it that there is no home advantage for Wolves?

Save your money, express your opinions in the pub and stay away from Molineux.

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Wolves fans voicing their discontent after loosing 5 straight games, one of them being a 3-0 home thrashing by QPR and another a 2-0 loss to our arch rivals, is unreasonable? Are you mad? We have been utterly diabolical as of late. Fans pay soo much money to support their club, they have every right to voice their opinions, who can blame them for being angry? Mccarthy honestly expects nobody to call for his head after 6 torrid games? Is he really that naive? Reacting aggressively as he’s done just shows the arrogance of the man. Yes he’s achieved a lot for this club and will always be remembered but he has also earned a huge amount of money in the process. At the end of the day this is a results business and every manager eventually reaches the end of their tenure. I am personally a realist and after picking up just one point from newcastle, tottenham, liverpool, swansea, west brom and qpr and also assuming we loose on saturday, if we don’t WIN at home to wigan the week after i think he should resign and accept that he has taken us as far as he can.

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Well said. Like many fans, I have been frustrated and wanted MM to understand the depth of feeling from the fans. But this is getting out of hand and after Saturday’s behaviour on the terraces I can see that, rather than a protest, this is now akin to mass hysteria. Fans are jumping on the bandwagon and showing an ugly side that reflects very badly on the club. We won’t suddenly start playing better because of the jeers. You’ve made your point, but now it’s simple. Stay away and save your money and let the true fans support the mighty Wanderers. UTW.

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Its a poor article by a sycophantic author that casually dismisses the failings and shortcomings of both the management and players. Firstly, respect is earned, as it is given, and it doesn’t last for all time. I show respect to her majesty the queen but I have no obligation whatsoever to show McCarthy eternal respect.

Like all managers, in all walks of life, recognition and reward is based on current performance. Operational failings can often be remedied with peer support, effective direction and setting of objectives. To achieve this the manager must first acknowledge that there are problems, that current strategies are not working and then be willing to change. None of this is evident at this time. Indeed, the contemptible disregard Morgan, Moxey and McCarthy have for the faithful followers serves only to demonstrate that McCarthy cannot bear to acknowledge his own failings. His 3-year performance is woeful and the next year looks equally bleak.
Forget the years in the wilderness, many clubs go through the same and most come out of it much stronger. I’ve been a Wolves supporter since the early 50′s and have been through all misery and joy. One thing is absolutely certain, however, and that is history has no relevance to current and future performance. Mr McCarthy’s Premier League performance is abysmal and observers have every right to challenge such underachievement. Mr Spiers, I doubt you would tolerate an investment manager that returned the same level of performance.
Next time you write, Mr Spiers, forget the cheap shots such as ‘vitriolic bile’ and try to comprehend what is being presented to you and then write a critique that is factual, logical and without emotion.

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I cannot get to the games (bit far from NZ!)so difficult to judge, BUT I did go when I lived in the UK, every year for 40 odd years so I have experience of the good, crap, Chorley and BHATTI times. 50 mill spent on players SO WHAT? We can see the results on the pitch, what does 50 mill get. some good, most not, but we expect the very best. I would give my dying breath to wear that golden shirt, to run out onto the Mol pitch and to be paid………..Wow! Passion for MY team comes from within, NOT FROM MY WALLET.

Rant over!

Kiwi Wqlves

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No.23. Ray Wilkins? The man who’s only ever gets a job in coaching because he can speak Italian? we could go for the set and get David Platt in with him.

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William Fletcher – Maybe if McCarthy had been given the budget at Sunderland that MON had at Villa, a budget which Villa are currently paying the price for i might add….. then maybe he would have done better. Similarly, maybe if MON had to deal with the budget McCarthy had at Sunderland, he would have got relegated as well.

McCarthy’s entire budget for Sunderland in the Prremier League was equal to what we paid out on Kevin Doyle alone, you can’t judge him on that.

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Rich5Wolves. Swansea’s wingers were assets not least because they played with only one up and hence had the extra man in midfield. In marked contrast Wolves wingers didn’t make good use of what possession was provided, and hence were a liability. The game was changed by Mick’s substitutions which allowed us to dominate midfield possession. Playing with 2 out and out touchline hugging wide players, 2 against 3 in midfield and slugging it out with the opposition, is suicidal with the way our defence performs both with and without the ball. The root problem is the defending.

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Baggies fan in peace.
Most of you are absolutely bang on, MM has to go. Us Albion fans actually love the guy, for obvious reasons.
But in all seriousness I went to the game against you 2 weeks ago and couldnt believe how slow and unorganised your defence were. OK Long had a blinder but it was like a knife through butter every time.
It made me think we were an even better team than I thought until I saw on tv the same disorganised defence torn apart by swansea.
This is very similar to Megson, a man who saved us, took us up, we loved him. Then a reality check, `this guy can take us no further`. He walked away with a big thank you and a big cheque. Had a nice holiday, worked for sky for a bit then walked back into management because he is a good manager but had just reached the end of the road at the hawthorns.
If you want 2 points out of 21 to be say 9 points out of 48 at christmas then carry on as you are. If you want to stay up then get a footballing tactician at the helm pretty sharpish.

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I would absolutely LOVE to hear or read the following statement from Steve Morgan:- ‘Mick McCarthy is the permanent manager and will not be sacked. Any supporters who are not happy about that, and who wish to continue to discredit or abuse the manager or players during matches, PLEASE STAY AWAY FROM THE GROUND’. Personally, I’d be very happy to sit in a half empty ground with fans 100% behind Mick and the team.

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A few responses to fellow posters…

163 – Thank you for the polite, considered opinion. However, my friend -and I’m sure you’ll understand as a football fan yourself- only Wolves fans themselves truly ‘understand’ the situation at Molineux.

You have to be part of the Wolves’ terrace mindset; experience the varied opinion inside an outside the ground on matchday; endure the frustration of a manager that’s simply not up to the required standard…then, as if that’s not enough, feel the genuine pain of helplessness as you watch one man, Mr. Michael McCarthy, is instrumental in dividing our fanbase (and not only between themselves, but also from their much-loved club, too). As if that weren’t enough -and very alarmingly- this man appears fireproof, bombproof and ‘everything-else-proof’.

Also, it’s not about “unrealistic expectations”, my Baggie buddy. Some of our lot were deluded, yes -but so too were Baggie fans who thought a Champions League place could well be theirs after drawing at Old Trafford last season. To clarify, I refer to the ones who actually rang Radio WM stating as much. So, both of our clubs have deluded fans who don’t represent the 99.9% majority of sensible fans. Still, over-excitement goes with the territory of loving your club, especially when barren years have passed with nothing to shout about. We both know that.

Dreadful football; outspoken comments from players, bloggers and now our new Captain himself. Apparently, it’s nobody’s fault but the fans -if you believe that crap. A fantastic propaganda and assassination job on our fans if ever I saw one. meanwhile, Mick tells the fans to “F*** off” and challenges dissenters to a fight. Is that the kind of boss YOU would like? I tell you, Shropshirebaggie, you’d see things very differently if you had Gold & Black blood. I fully respect your views as an ‘outsider’, though.

148 – (Mancunian Wolf) Excellent post -very well said, my friend. I feel utterly distanced from my club, too, so I share your feelings. With Morgan and Moxey eternally quiet, I’m not convinced that the club knows what ‘PR’ is. It’s very, very depressing -especially given that no public rebuke has been administered to Mick for his outrageous behaviour this weekend -let alone an apology to fans for his outbursts. Wolves consistently shoot themselves in the foot but obviously can’t see how.

160 – Agreed 100% with your point. Booing does not help Wolves cause whatsoever. Back the team for 90 minutes, I say, and save recriminations until AFTER the game ends -if necessary. That said, it’s a two-way street between players and fans because one motivates the other. So, Wolves have a duty to perform, too.

With respect, I feel it’s a bit presumptuous to dismiss booing fans as not ‘proper fans’. This is an emotional game we’re talking about and many of those fans you deride are almost certainly loyal ST holders and have ploughed their money into the club for years. Besides, nobody is perfect. That doesn’t mean I approve, though. It merely means I understand the passions generated by following the Wolves. There’s no such thing as a ‘proper fan’ in my view. It’s all a matter of opinion…and, when you get nearly 30,000 crammed into Molineux, you’ll get 30,000 different opinions.

Besides, if fans hadn’t have booed, jeered, protested….well, the Bhatti Bros may well have killed off our club (not that I’m suggesting the present regime is in any way comparable, of course). So, being what you describe as ‘proper fan’ back then would have meant extenction. No rebellion? No club today. Just food for thought, my friend, because passion for the Gold & Black manifests itself in a myriad of ways. I take your point, though.

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I reserve judgement on this article until Xmas or until that sage of all knowledge Jack informs us an alternative.

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we need a young bright manager who has played at the top level, lee clark springs to mind

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Tim another well written article with nice words,at the same time the article is not an accurate or a fair minded appraisal.
MM will prove majority of the fan’s correct,by “losing games”.
MM’s record as a premiership Manager is the worst by any premiership “MANAGER”! (FACT).
Tim if you and the few happy clappers look at the last two seasons and this season by watching each of the games,making sure you study every player each game,the defending,creativity,solidity of the team,creating chances,playing with fluidity,playing with a structure,you will find we are at the bottom of the league.
The same errors,the same problems continue,we as a team are lucky to know where the issues lie,yet no improvement or progress as been made!
This is where the MANAGER is looked at for solving the problems,MM is not being able to do this,the “EVIDENCE” lie’s in the games we play in!!
Majority of the “WOLVES” fans are aware of where things are going wrong,I am not ashamed to admit that I am one who “KNOWS” MM does not have the skills to be any sort of success at this level,improvement is all we want in the playing department he cant give it!!!!!!
Brendan Rogers as been with “SWANSEA” for what ?? A year ? Look at them play organised dependable in defence and able to create chances.When you watch Swansea they “PLAY FOOTBALL”.Brendan as got Swansea in one fifth of the time!!!!!
Paul Lambert the same,Neil Warnock the same ,these teams may get relegated etc but they look good,each player knows his role and fills it.Swansea carved us open surely this is not a good sign?
What will “MAN CITY” do on “SATURDAY”?
They are not the same team as last year they are “BETTER”!
Our first two seasons in the premiership were “POOR” we kept losing in both seasons to so called lower teams.First season we were “LUCKY” to survive just look at our points tally!!!
Last season we did get more points but we were down at one point with just a few minutes to go!!!
Did you witness the performance against “BLACKBURN” ? in the last game of the season?????
Alarm Bells were ringing at their loudest!!!
MM as had a fair chance,now that we are in the Premeirship we need to protect “IT”!!!
Not go down to “NEGLIGENCE”!

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all you fans that boo disgust me your not true fans a true fan get behind there team through the good and the bad .do you remember when he first come we had no squad no money destined for league 1 and just look at what he has done the man deserves respect not abuse could any of you do any better ? i think not so shut up and get behind the club you all say you love and stop making us a laughing stock in football wolves till i die and will always show support no matter how tough it gets in mm i trust

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Problem is MM can’t take the club forward .Any team with a record to break can beat it against Wolves .QPR best away victory in 30 years , WBA 1st clean sheet in god knows how long, Brunt 1st goal in 12 months , Swansea lost all away games until they play us .If we cant beat QPR,SWANSEA,NEWC, WBA who can we beat with the top 4 stronger than ever.
Can anyone explain why Foley our best right back for years was dropped when fit & played in midfield when he did play , Doherty RB man of match at Anfield second half & not seen since.Milijas Serbian int never played , Vokes played for 5 mins at best ..created 1st goal sat.
If you keep doing same things you get same results if it hasnt worked for last 20 games why will it suddenly work ….blind faith & stubbornness from MM who keeps getting out of jail !

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well said tim all true our fickle fans making us a laughing stock of the premier no backing of the team it,s true what the away fans sing it is like being in a libary i fear the same tonight they doing team no favours loyal wolves fans wish theyed stay at home angry wolf !

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