Sombody tell him theres a reccesion on and people are losing their jobs weekly and they cant afford the inflated prices especialy after the perfomance last Saturday where they should have refunded fans.

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Hmmm…. might be the way we are playing or the lack of signings you think?

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They’re actually legal.

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if the new stand wasnt built and we spent the money on player the stands would be full every home game

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It comes down to money in the end. Before age and health put an end to my season ticket holding days, I was paying, towards the end, £40 on petrol to attend a home game – before taking into account other expenditure on the day. I do miss the atmosphere though and the friends I made. But what with unemployment, higher prices for just about everything – people have got to cut their cloth accordingly – surely Jez can see that.

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They go to the pub because they ARE supporters Jez and £5 for two pints is more affordable than £25 to £40 in the ground. One day things may return to normal, but I’m not holding my breath yet. It used to cost the equivalent of just two pints to get in The Hawthorns and Molineux and the grounds were FULL!

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Typical of this bloke, he lives in a different world to the rest of us.
In hard financial times you have to make a product even more appealing to get people to spend their money on it. Lots of talk at the end of last season plus little action in the summer have made the Wolves an unattractive spending option especially with money being tight. Blaming everybody but the root cause does nobody any good and just makes him look a complete and utter prat.

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The simple answer is the moly is not value for money these days. The football on show is dull and boring. The pre game entertainment is either poor or non existant. The half time show is laughable. Mick may be a loverly bloke but his team choice and tactics fail to inspire most,ok there will always be he ones who go out of habit but obviously a lot think same as me – i will not pay silly money for two season tickets unless i am sure i will get 90 minutes of excitement. As for Moxey moaning about football on tv, real fans would rather watch it LIVE not on a box so forget about that excuse Jez. Offer a good product at the right price and i and many others will return.

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I’d rather have seen some of the redevelopment money buy a LB, CH, CM and striker. That way we see more competitive games and maybe a little more quality, thus a full house. Moxey, if you can’t work that out, maybe you need another job!
Apart from the owner being a builder, I’ve never seen the sense in tearing up a relatively new stadium before the team is properly established. Southampton and Coventry City spring to mind. Plus, I’m not sure we could really fill it. Why not have another couple of seasons (a la Stoke, bring in a couple of more signing and then when we’re finishing in 11th or 12th, start thinking about the ground.
I consider myself a true Wolves fan but it costs over £100 per match for my son and I (tickets, travel and food)and I will not make all the games this season partly through cost but more so because of the lack of quality in the team and hence ability to compete. Effort alone is not enough in this league.

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duhh, cheap seats fill grounds, simple business sense, people buying drinks, food, programmes. villa & blues do it, why cant we? theyre not businessmen down the molineux theyre jokes. just cus moxey gets paid over £100k a year for nought doesnt mean the REAL fans do. hope youre reading this jez, you’re the one who can sort it out for goodness sake

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I agree with posts above, should spend our cash on more quality players rather than build a bigger ground than the one we already can’t fill! What happens if the worst happens and we get relegated and then we have 20 thousand empty seats rather than 10 thousand with the current capacity?

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The ruling from the EU on the legality case of showing live matches @3pm is on Oct 4th, and is expected to go to declare showing matches legal.

In the meantime no prosecutions are going ahead.

Look in your own backyard and see what you are offering for what you charge.

Why do the top teams sell out despite their matches being on TV.?

You get out what you put in.

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1->8 ALL provide balanced and well thought rhetoric, yes it is the working mans game,and yes its NO LONGER affordable to your bread and butter public…..

Whilst the Prawn Sandwich Brigade can continue to belive they are the TRUE supporters(And In My Opinion are entitled to first choice on ticket sales), think of those that cannot afford too attend, get the ticketing Balance Right(£20 Per Ticket for unsold seats 24 hours before a game via the box office for example)and the ground will be full in due course.

UTW

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Drop the ticket prices,just think of the thousands of fans who don’t go because it’s £30 something quid to go and watch a football game, it’s crazy the ticket prices are way to high, and the players are over paid too.
The sooner the bubble bursts the better, these inflated prices are just to much.
The game is going to the dogs,fans are beginning to get fed up with the rip off prices.
I don’t know how we are going to fill this new stadium when it’s finished, I think a reasonable ticket price would be about £12.50 that’s the only way fans will keep coming to watch football.
Get a reality check Mr Moxey, we don’t work for a £million contract year in year out, people are struggling just to pay their bills and but food on the table.
Sometimes I wonder what planet our Mr Moxey lives on, he should be in politics, he’d be a great MP.

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This has been bugging me for ages and I have contemplated writing to Morgan to air my views but probably wouldnt get a reply.
The reality is most Wolves fans are not the type that attend the clubs meetings, fans forums etc, so the club get a slanted view on Wolves fans in general, most fans are working class people from the hundreds of council estates that are in the surrounding area’s, money is tight and job’s are bleak, this is reality and until the club realise this they have no chance of filling the stadium anymore,…I knew this was coming last season when we stayed up by the skin of our teeth,..most fans had had enough and the club did nothing in the way of signings to get fans excited enough to come back.
My son is on his way to Liverpool as I write this with friends because I couldnt afford it,..they have even stopped the concessions on the coaches and kids have to pay adult prices now!!.
Moxey instead of slating internet T.V. why dont you do what QPR did and give season ticket holders a partial refund and then actually use the brain you are paid to use to reduce prices, 2 for 1′s, kids for a quid etc, etc to get fans back into the stands, as the CLUB can only blame themselves for this, most people havnt had a pay rise in years but you keep putting prices up and up!!!.
Bottom line is you didnt delivery the 3-4 quality signing you promised so you have the proverbial 2 fingers off some of the fans, end of.

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Poster Number 15 Coopernaut….
Brilliant!!!!!!

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A lot of it has been said already about the cost of going to football matches and I fully agree.But one thing that is not helping at Wolves is the 3M`s conning the fans when it was said several times that we were going to buy 2 Centre-backs,a Left-back and probably a Midfielder.We bought Johnson a good buy yes,but,he needs someone alongside him.Why didn`t we go for Upson Dann or even Woodgate on a pay as you play deal instead McCarthy announced he is happy with what he`s got and then goes to sign McFadden.Whoever said he was or is a good player really needs a visit to Specsavers.Moxey,show some ambition,get the team right,get a good manager and you will fill the new stand ,the fans will be back but not with the way you are going about things at the moment.

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Sorry jez but your not living in the same world as the rest of us the game has been taken away from the working class with sky high ticket prices to pay overratted over hyped players thousands of pounds a week ie joey barton

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simple sack mick and moxey cans are cheaper watch soccer saturday we need better players back to cans lol

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I hate to say I told you so but the truth is the Fans are doing the talking with their feet as I predicted, my wife and I were at the QPR match last week and apart from spending a small fortune on our tickets we went home completely depressed.
The chickens now come home to roost lack of investment in the team will mean we will probaly be in for another year of relegation nail biting matches and jeers from away supporters is that entertainment.

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behave yourself JEZ im disabled and cant get a season ticket i like to come with my son we drive up from devon to watch the same old dross.doyle should be an actor how many times he falls over cant you see he doesnt want to play for us we need new players now not next year when i send emails you never send a personal email back its always from the organ griinders who are so ignorant sometimes,get of your high horse moxey and come down to street level we was here before you appeared and will be here a long time after you have destroyed the club.bhatti brothers springs to mind

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Of course it has nowt to do with the rubbish on offer,the lack of ambition, the negative Manager and the ridiculous prices being charged, get real Moxey.

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Have a look around town Jez.
Woolies gone,TJ Hughes gone,TK Max going.
People havent got the money.Football supposed to be an entertainment,but after last week,going to the dentist is more fun.
Come down to Blackburn,s prices and you might get a few more in the door.

PS.Why didnt you tell us the truth about us North Bank fans.We were all under the immpresion we would be seated in the lower Steve Bull for the remainder of the season,not in the North Pole{bank)till January without a roof.

woolies

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Everybody’s skint Moxey. I’m not surprised they’re watching the match down the boozer. I bet they aren’t getting ripped off £3.50 for a bottle of beer there and being told where they can and can’t drink it.

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Ive said all along, to fill ground you need a succsessful team playing in it? There was nothing wrong with the ground as it was,but we still couldn’t fill it, and the main reason/s are the team are not good enough,not enough spent on quality players, and the state of the economy? I was happy sitting in the ground, as it was, but Steve Morgan thinks that building a new stadium with better ‘quality bricks’ will fill the stadium? But imo i think he’s obsessed with ‘building things’ but you need to build a top quality team first, to enable you to fill any ground. GOOD LUCK TODAY LADS:

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Agree with everything said above and there isn’t a dissenting voice. I was a season ticket holder for many years but my health deteriorated resulting in medical retirement from my job. I cannot afford the present prices but when my health enables me I would love to go to the Mol again if the prices were reduced substantially. I do not watch down the pub either legal or illegal!Moxey should apologise for these intemperate remarks and give himself a reality check.

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Sadly many of the comments are correct. Problem is not the pubs, it is the rubbish tactics and MM’s insistence to play his favourites. Sorry Jez but regardless of your head in the sand view of MM’s ability as a manager gates will continue to fall as will our position in the league table.

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If Moxey is blaming pubs well it’s not cheap to go to games this day in age it’s tough for people out there they don’t think about how hard the west midlands has been hit by the down turn of the economy, make cheaper to go to games. No that would never happen like the Man City game in League Cup tickets will soon shoot up for that one

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well jezzzzz……….

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I wish we were in the championship i really do then he would be so happy and the ticket price. would be 20 pounds……..

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Some common sense here. Jez is quite right. Whats the point Sky staggering KO times of the live TV games around traditional Saturday 3pm KO time if pubs are screening them live from abroad? But what about kids for a quid all season with 1 full paying adult? Recruit the clubs future fans now. Isn’t it better to sell a seat for £1 (or £2) rather than look at 5 or 6 thousand empty upturned seats ruining the atmosphere. It shouldn’t affect the clubs income much as most now comes in from TV and other commercial activities and an empty seat earns the club nothing. Stadiums make money and are used 7 days a week now, not closed for a fortnight between matches like they were in the 60′s, 70′s & 80′s. Filling the stadium is easy. It just needs affordable pricing and a little vision. Are you listening Jez coz we aren’t all on your salary mate?

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£40 a game + petrol etc etc is too much for me. Moxey needs to get real. There’s a recession on and fans will see the team the best way they can.I’d rather have kept the North Bank and spent the money on quality players. When we are a good side then expand the ground and it will be filled, though perhaps not at these prices.

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Greed is the big problem in football.The more they get the more they want.Some people were watching football on the net and live in pubs last season and the season before that.So it is pretty obvious there are other reasons for the fall in gates this season.We got £40mplus from television rights last season alone,and still he moans.All he is interested in is bigger profits and a bigger bonus,forget signing quality players.The players are no better,when asked what would they do if they were PM, 3 of them said they would cut taxes.Not a word about cutting crime,better schools ,hospitals,cutting unemployment.Evidently paying 50% tax is too much for them.They should remember in Frank Munro’s days top rate of income tax was 80% plus.To be fair to Hammill he did say he would like to see lower starter house prices.

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SHUT UP MOXEY ! ! I for one would love to travel from Chester watch my WOLVES play, buy a program, have a pint and something to eat. So no my first thought has to be to my family Pay mortage, buy food, buy gas electric and see to my childrens needs, and still hope I have a job next week. FOOTBALL NEEDS TO WAKE UP !!!!!!

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As said by Lee “who lets the tv stations in the ground.”
If the TV stations were fined for selling a subscription to a UK pub to cover the lost revenue or stopped from filming (No there`s far too much money involved with the TV rights) and anyway how many of the missing 8000 or so fans are actualy down the pub –3 pubs with say 100 viewers -sums don`t add up.
While everyones having a moan at moxy why do season ticket holders have to subscribe to Wolves world to listen to away matches .
And if there was a pay to view for away games say £5 a match online with a reduced screen to stop the whole street watching,i`d willing cough up rather than stream view.

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I went to the Liverpool game today. I paid £109 for the ticket from the travel company the club use. There was a season ticket holder sat next to me who paid the same. I only went cause I bought advance train tickets from London ages ago. Why do wolves give them the tickets and let them rip us off.

Why charge £1.50 per ticket when booking via a expensive phone call or via online sales. Why can’t I buy a ticket for the family game for two adults and one junior and let someone else who may want to take three kids have the spare one. Why don’t wolves do tickets for troops like other clubs. I’ll tell you why – you’re only interested in making money and don’t give a toss about the fans. You lot will be gone one day having made a fortune and we’ll still be ploughing our money in. We’ll never get it back. The new stadium (which we don’t need but makes Mr Morgan more money for his building business) will never be full at the prices you charge. The board should be ashamed of themselves. I’ll be a here for wolves for the rest of my life, will you lot? Take your grease pan head and do one. We want to be able to support our club from the stands and not in the pubs or in front of a laptop. Tell Mr Morgan I’ve got a tenner left over if he ever wants to sell up.

Rant over

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Look at the bundesleauge cheap tickets equalls full grounds aint rocket science is it

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Sorry Jez ive been a season ticket holder for many years in the Steve Bull Upper and im thinking of not renewing next season i think alot of fans will be doing the same money is tight these days to watch football ie £40.00 for the s..t away when you can watch the match for free in your local and not get ripped off for buying a pint or a pie etc simple drop the prices give the fans the signings that will put backsides on seats and maybe the fans will want to come to the Golden Palace again or you could even start paying for your own match tickets like the real fans do

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If you lowed the prices then more fans would come.

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Moxey needs to read these comments and take note before he puts his foot in it again!
everybody in wolverhampton apart from morgan and moxey (cant blame mcarthy cos he doesnt hold the purse strings) knew it was the team that needed rebuilding not the ground but hey what do we know, ill av my pie and a pint down the local jez and spend the rest on fast cars and loose women!

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moxey ur attitude is the reason i wont be going again for a while youre totally not in tune with reality i earn decent enough wages but i refuse to pay the money to overated players one decent signing will not convince the fans of morgans ambition hopefully skys input will not be so great and average players wages will come more in line with reality i and many i know will not be attending while i can watch in my local for a third of the cost of attending molinuex

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For the first time in years. last week I put a formal complaint in to the ticket office at Wolves. I didn’t even get a reply.

What was I annoyed at? Well, the fact that I have been moved into the NB wing ( without a roof) as the previous poster stated when I was under the impression that I was stopping in the Steve Bull all season. I was annoyed that the club were only offering £40 off the season ticket for next year- we all know that the season tickets will be put up at the end of the season to offset that!

So I rang Moxey up- complained that I had no reply and that there was a high chance of rain in the 7 matches before the roof was back on. I also explained that as a trainee solicitor I do not believe I had misinterpreted his assertion that Wolves fans were lways planned to be returned to the NB with roof off!

I am grateful to him for taking my call but here are my ways to improve gates and get fans on side.

Cut booking fees online and by phone. It is a disgrace that a process which costs twenty pence per transaction costs £1.50 per ticket!
This is often on top of a phone call costing ten pence a minute. Pure greed.

Create a student season ticket- I don’t know what you have against students, you treat them all like potential criminals. Cardiff (which is near me, do a student season ticket for £100.) Make the most of the transient population of students at Wolverhampton University- you may create fans for life!

Create a ticket for youths. My twins are 18 and one an apprentice the other in college.The other is 20 and at Uni, they cannot afford to buy a season ticket. The current policy is myopic in the extreme.

Cut the cost of food and drink at the Molineux. The prices are exorbitant. Put in some vending machines for the soft drinks to speed up half time refreshments.

How about paying for Wolves fans travel to go to an away game that counts? West brom have done it several times and should be applauded for it.

Finally, for the hubby, get Banks’ Bitter on tap- support our local economy.Oh and whilst I am talking about supporting the economy, negotiate with west midlands police about the midday kick offs with west brom.

We can’t get to Wolves on a train on Sunday for midday ko and closing the pubs for some matches costs people their livelihood and hampers those of us who are looking to get a meal because we have travelled a fair distance.

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As you can see by these comments Mr Moxey, Wolverhampton Wanderers Football Club is what matters to all these people. The problem you have is that, you do not have a vast amount of supporters to appeal to if some decide not to come any more. Wolves have got to be more pro-active in the way they treat there own supporters. So Wolves F.C. becomes more appealling existing and new supporters. Also can someone put my mind to rest, I’m sure I read somewhere that Moxey said if we needed to spend big to get a player we would pay it. Well that never happend, but being a Wolves fan I’ve seen in the past it’s not always amount of money that gets you quality.

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I got my season ticket but nothing compares to the match day experience but I admit to watching the away matches at the pub. I used to enjoy 4-5 away days in the championship but with tickets in the premiership costing twice as much and most games being in big cities I just can’t afford them.

The issue is cost and the premiership has for too long been unrealistic on there pricing and players wages. The bubble will burst and this is just the start because it can’t go on.

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Doubt anyone from the club reads the tosh written on here, frankly I wouldn’t miss a home game at the Mol and that involves a long journey.

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Not really tosh though is it pam? its reality, the ordinary working person just cant afford it in the current climate. over priced to watch over payed players under achieve. why should we contribute to their stupidly high wages, so they can wrap expensive cars around trees and have 4 in a bed orgies???

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Firstly, there are no direct quotes from Moxey on here, so lets not shoot the guy before we actually know what he has or hasn’t said.

However, prices are clearly too high and who can blame hard up for fans for not paying the inflated premier league prices when there’s clearly an alternative that’s way cheaper.

Why on earth aren’t season ticket holder given the first two round of the League Cup and the 3rd round of the FA Cup inclusive of their season ticket price as was done many years ago ? 7000 fans for Millwall – if the ground is open, you may as well give thise season ticket holders and incentive to go. If they’re in the ground they may even buy a pie and a pint.

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I attend Wolves every home and away game. Yes I am loaded but I would give my all to be on that pitch. Instead I have to sit and watch Mr O’Hara thinking he is Messi and Stearman thinking he is a Right Back. Drop the prices Mr Moxey and the poorer fans will come back.

Yours,

Nenad Milijaš

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Hello No. 7 :-) I am still a-plenty on the slimey hair.

Now, i wish i had seen this on Friday it is surely the most ridiculous, and funny thing. Is Moxey anti – free market.

As Frank Zappa almost said; “Communism doesn’t work because people like to choose where to watch a match”

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The Molineux.

The only place in Wolverhampton more expensive to drink than a pub :-)

I would have had such a better weekend, really i would, if i had known he had said this.

An e.g. of the lower gates, I have a season ticket but work makes me travel and gettin ghtere is tough, but my mate who has gone for the last 15 years has cancelled as he is in trouble with his mortgages and is working weekends too. Now Moxey complains the gates are down a bit, and people, put their mortgages before the finances of a club where he draws a salary of x, i know it but get censored when i say it.

So – hilarious, how out of touch can you be.

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Jez…I bought a 7 year old Ford Focus on Saturday, it has skint me out, but I need it to get to an avegare paid job to pay the bills…now remind me again what car did O’Hara buy his missus?
Catch my drift?

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attn of shewolf : re ticket cost hotline… about the cost to call the premium number at £1.55 per minute :

another money making scam did you know moxey owns a percentage in ‘ticket master ‘ the company behind the bookings ! so you are lining his pocket even further when you call it ( so he can spend it on wet look gel )

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I’d seriously love to ge to more games,but the ticket costs for myself & the kids hurts the pockets more than Mr Moxey could ever appreciate.
The day they put a cap on the players wages of £100,000 per annum, would be very welcome.
Think I paid 2/6 ( 12 1/2p ) to see my very first game, back in 1968!

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Many Wolves fans have reached tipping point Mr Moxey!! I have followed Wolves for 40 years – and will continue to do so in one way or another for as long as I live as they are my Team.

However as a season ticket holder of 20 years I like many others are seriously considering not renewing for next season irrespective of which league we are in – prices too high and entertainment too low.

With your comments Mr Moxey may have just started a revolution that could see many more fans vote with their feet – as clearly there is no other way of communicating with you or the indeed your fellow directors – attendances will continue to dwindle.

Wake up NOW – show loyal fans the respect they deserve – give people what they need in these tough times REDUCED PRICES and guess what you WILL fill the ground again!!

Follow that with consistent open honest communication with those fans and stop making promises that you continue to break and hey who knows you may start to build better relations with the people who pay your wages.

Finally but most importantly demonstrate your commitment to Wolves by investing sensibly in the Team.

UTW

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Read Moxey’s comments for the first time today. Outrageous; illustrates just how far out of touch the man is with the fans.
I’ve slavishly kept my season ticket going since 1987, occasionally with little more justification than that attending the games allowed me to meet up regularly with friends whom I would otherwise rarely see, for various reasons.
Latterly, from a high point of 10 of us in the late 80′s/early 90′s, that group of friends has dwindled to 3 who continue to attend each Home game. I’m the only one of us who doesn’t have kids, and how the others justify the expense, I can’t imagine.
Football has created a monster of it’s own making, alienating and out-pricing traditional, die-hard supporters; and courting a middle-class/middle-income constituency that never really existed in any great numbers.
Now the interests/priorities of both groups,such as they exist, have shifted. The less committed will simply find another outlet for their spare cash/time/energies.
However, the traditional supporters who were originally disenfranchised continue to follow the club with the same degree of fanaticism, but their support has a different focus, given that games can be followed in their entireity in a variety of mediums from the comfort of their own homes, or in the company of friends in local pubs and clubs. Indeed, from my own experiences of the latter, the atmosphere generated therein often eclipses the rather dour ambience at ‘live’ matches. They can thus speak with the same degree of authority concerning the team’s fortunes that was once the exclusive preserve of those who attended games. These supporters will likely keep an eager ear out for cheap tickets going spare, but in truth, it would be hard to argue with the logic anyone who targeted attendence at perhaps 4-5 Home matches in a season and eagerly looked forward to such occasions as a rare treat, as oppose to the hassle of parting with a small fortune every 9 months, and then finding themselves at the mercy of changes in KO times; seat relocation; scandalous catering prices/quality.
The club is suddenly in very real danger of compromising the goodwill it has generated over the last 5 years or so, and if it ever loses connection with the diehards who’ve followed the club through thick and thin, no ammount of media spin and hard sell will repair the damage.

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Sorry Jez but screening these games is the only reason i’m still a landlord :-/
Long may it continue!!!

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I’d rather be at the game than watching in the pub, but I have the luxury of being able to afford the early-bird, if I started fresh now I would probably watch down the pub due to the rip-off match day prices and season tickets.

The two times last year I watched “illegal” games in the pub were down to Wolves Ticket Office/Management. First was spurs away when we took the woeful low allocation and was unable to get a ticket, second was sunderland away when we agreed to a 12.45 kick-off on a saturday making it almost impossible to get to the game.

Phone line needs to be true local rate, i.e. 01902/0345 rather than 0871, booking fees need to be capped at a lower rate per transaction (i.d be happy with £1.50 per transaction, not £1.50 per ticket).

If these pubs are acting illegally why arent Wolves and WMP doing anything to stop them!

There may be no direct quote from Moxey here but he did repeat it on WM yesterday morning.

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