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Wolves trio in contention for Liverpool
Wednesday 21st September 2011, 2:05PM BST.
Wolves boss Mick McCarthy today insisted midfield trio Adlene Guedioura, Nenad Milijas and David Edwards are ready for the Premier League challenge at Liverpool.
Guedioura turned in a man of the match performance in last night’s 5-0 Carling Cup rout of Millwall, scoring a beauty and making one for George Elokobi.
Milijas got an impressive 90 minutes under his belt, while Edwards scored after three minutes on his comeback after eight-and-a-half months out with a back injury.
McCarthy is believed to be considering playing Kevin Doyle as a lone striker at Anfield on Saturday, which opens up a space for an extra midfielder, and the three last night all staked a claim.
The manager said: “It’s nice because we got Adlene, David and Nenad back out there and these players needed the game.
“Whether it’s for Saturday or not, I know these players are up to match speed and, if I need to call on them, I can.
“They all did themselves a huge service by playing as well as they did. They all closed down well and worked hard.
“It gave a few people the chance to play, which they needed.”
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Hennessey
Foley
Berra
Johnson
Big George
Jarvis
O’Hara
Guedioura
Milijas
Hunt
Doyle
There you go. That should set the ball rolling.
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if we play one striker and fit surely it has to be fletcher?
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totally agree with #1
spot on team for me for Liverpool!
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Hammil?? surely got to be in contention
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big george instead of ward what planet you on ? one of the worst players ever at wolves.
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Many posts on here have aksed for a chance for Guedioura Millijas and now Edwards is fit why not? Doyle alone up front is reverting to the survival strategy from last season.It also invites Liverpool to come at us,therefore I think a quicker player, one to one, especially with Jamie Carragher, would pay dividends. Remember! the Scousers are hurting after last weeks debacle, they are at home, and someone has to pay. A quick prayer to Saint Peter Knowles here to ensure it isn’t us.
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They might be ready but where will he play them, as he wont drop Henry for Adlene.
He will have to accommodate Henry as he is not willing to accept he was wrong in the shirt is his quotes.
The reason we had more forward movement last night is because of that, he can also score goals which we have seen before, and that’s what midfield players should be doing when an opportunity arises.
Leaving Doyle on his own up front is just more of the same as last season, he will be lucky to score a goal.
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Well Micky boi lets see if u have the kahunas to drop Henry and play the 3 who played soo well last night.
My honest opinion is that you wont do it!
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Lets hope Mick actually changes his ways and plays in form players instead of his usual favourites. What about Hamill he is streets ahead of Kites at the moment. Does anyone know what has happened to Zubar, just hope he hasn’t crossed the I am always right one or he will end up going the same way as Eastwood, Bothroyd and Jelle Van to name a few.
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Surely Hammill has staked a claim too? Tremendous performance last night, albeit against a Championship side. If Kiteley is considered to now be a potential starter (when he clearly isn’t yet up to speed) Hammill must be in contention?
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(1) Foley and Johnson are injured! so may not be fit. So based on that and the performances from last night.
Hennessey
Doherty
Berra
Stearman
Ward
Hammill – Replacing Kites
Guedioura – Replacing Henry
O’Hara or Milijas
Edwards – behind Doyle
Jarvis
Doyle
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What about Hammil i thought he had a good game,i thought milijas was average at best the game just seem to pass him by
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How can anyone seriously consider Elokobi in a Premiership side?
Doyle for all his hard work and effort has been transformed into a one goal in nine/ten man. Berra and Stearman at the back are too msitake-prone and Henry needs dropping. O’Hara gone right off the boil.
Freshen it up Mick please.
Hennessy
Foley
Craddock
Johnson
Ward
Hammil
Milijas
Guedioura
Hunt
Fletcher with Kightly just in behind
Come on you Wolves
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Why is there no mention of Hammill who is fully fit whereas as Edwards, Guedioura and Milijas are only just returning from their injuries!
MM will once again favour Kightely over Hamill!
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To all the planks that keep knocking KH. Is it just me that can see all the defensive work that KH does in a game? please for god sake look. when any one is caught out of position at the back who is there? when ever the ball breaks out side the box when we have a corner or are on the attack? if we drop KH for Guediora then we will be ripped apart! i do really like Guediora, he is a box to box midfielder with a fantastic strike on him but we need a holding midfielder playing with two wingers! i would like mick to play 4-5-1 on saturday with o’hara, KH and Guediora in the middle of which mick should have played this system against Q.P.R. But if he had and lost no dowt planks on this sight would have hammered him. JOG ON KNOCKERS!
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Hammill has to play!
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4-3-3 is the current trend in football and with good reason. A midfield trio of Guedioura, Milijas and O’Hara represents the best defensive and attacking option for us in that area. Up front we should go with Doyle, Fletcher and Hunt.
Milijas played defnsive midfield for Serbia and was their captain!
Guedioura can pass/shoot/dribble and score!
You can’t tell me Henry isn’t our only ‘defensive midfield’ option adn is not as good a player as either of these two.
I’m sorry to single out an individual but others deserve a chance as he doesn’t offer enough going forward.
Guedioura and Milijas have to come in to our underperforming midfield.
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After his performance last night, Guedioura HAS to be in the team, end of.
Hennessey
Foley (square peg, square hole)
Berra
Johnson
Ward
Jarvis
O’Hara
Milijas
Hunt
Guedioura (just behind striker)
Fletcher (if fit, if not then Doyle)
2-0 3 points to the gold and black
Nuff said!!!
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7) Much better team than no.1. George Elokobi cannot be considered ahead of Ward, especially after last Saturday! If fit, Foley or Zubar should be right back but Doherty looks impressive.
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Some of the remarks on here are bewildering! How anyone can suggest that by alienating Bothroyd, Eastwood or Van Damme for lack of ‘teamplayer’ attitudes, McCarthy did the club a disservice is totally beyond me. It’s because he insists on those attitudes that we have been successful in recent years! Millwall were no opposition last night, I don’t think all the Wolves players who had too much time and space last night are necessarily ready for Liverpool away. But a very enjoyable evening, where on earth were the rest of you? Rubbish support, hot and cold loyalty.
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@ 5 Paul Render
Ridiculous. Go back to kindergarten, and take your “humorous possibilities for rhyming slang” surname with you.
@ 10 Fordhouses
I’d go with the Doherty risk if Foley’s not fit. But Craddock (is HE fit?) instead of Stearman. The boy’s like a new-born foal on ice sometimes.
@ 12 Jersey
Regarding Elokobi, we don’t really have an alternative apart from Ward, who continues to show us that he is everything except a Premier League left-back. At least with Big George, they have to get around him first.
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People keep on mentioning Foley but I thought he was injured?
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Big George, why? He is absolutely talentless. Tries his best and as I have been saying for 3 seasons now trying your best is not enough, there is NO ROOM in this league for sentiment. Thanks George but time to move back to the championship. Put the guys who impressed in last night on the starting line up nothing to lose (apart from the game) after last weekends awful showing
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Hennessey
Doherty /
Berra / Johnson(if fit)
Stearman
Ward
Hammill
Guedioura
O’Hara or Milijas
Edwards
Jarvis
Fletcher / Doyle
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No 13
Foley and Craddock are out injured … prob’ also Johnson
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Hennessy
Ward
Berra
Johnson
Foley
Hammil
O’hara
Guedioura
Jarvis
Edwards
Fletcher
Surly the team most people would wanna see or maybe milijas drop Doyle,Henry and stearman
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Has Hammill done something wrong ???
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Will MM admit he was wrong playing HENRY as most fans have said and give MIIJAS a game, I wouldn@t put any money on it!!!!
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Some of you on this site have been brainwashed by MM, if you really think that his love child SW is a Prem player, the only reason he was moved up front on sat, was so george had the run around by SWP, and not the love child. Why do you think, we have not signed a Left Back,I suppose the MM lovers feel that we dont need one.
Do any of you In MM we Trust, know anything about FootBall.
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Not long back we hammered Fulham.
It all worked then , we are only missing Fletcher…for me Wardy has done well…as for you lot suggesting Big George is the answer…do you watch the games through one eye??
Henry out of the team after 180 mins of shocking play…
It’s going to be about work rate at Anfield no matter who plays…. the woeful effort we saw on Saturday will not be good enough…excuses after the game from players & managers alike dont get you points!!!
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All of you mad.
Stay with same team at start of season now Fletcher is fit.
Use subs appropriately.
To many changes too soon, disjoints the team and Mick once again will not know his best eleven, something I felt we struggled with last season but established early doors this season and team started to look comfortable.
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11)Much better team than no.1. George Elokobi cannot be considered ahead of Ward, especially after last Saturday! If fit, Foley or Zubar should be right back but Doherty looks impressive.
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15, As in my other post you are so wide of the mark KH is not on top of his game and needs to be dropped.
Will McCarthy do that, probably not judging by his comments about him.
But to be worth his place a huge improvement is needed, and stop getting caught up in petty squabbles.
The reason we are shipping goals is because he is not breaking up the attacks you talk about in midfield and having to chase back, foul the player and give free kicks away outside our box.
So yes I do think you are in the minority on this.
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15, you are spot on.
Karl Henry is a defensive ball winner and he does it well, why people cant see the work he puts in i dont know.
Regards Kightly he needs to go out on loan and Hammill needs to play the pettiness of MM sometimes infuriates me kind words for most players but Hammill not even mentioned.
Keep the faith
UTW
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if u were a prem league manager & both our leftback options ( wardinio, & g-unit) were availible for transfer would u buy them as replace
ents for your present leftback? Please list the
managers on the back of a stamp!!! N
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There’s no doubht in my mind that after the QPR performance no ones place should be safe
And after the 5-0 thrashing of Milwall
Guediora MUST start AHEAD of Henry
Hammill MUST start ahead of Kites
If Mick doesnt see this, then he’s simply a poor manager and clearly too stubborn for the prem and can take his favourite with him to Barnsley !
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Team for Saturday – 4 2 3 1
Hennessey;
Foley/Doherty, Johnson, Berra, Ward;
O’Hara, Milijas;
Hammill, Guedioura, Hunt;
Doyle.
Subs: De Vries, Stearman, Edwards, Vokes, Jarvis, Kightly, Elokobi
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Mick asked for a response from the “FRINGE” players last night…..
5-0 ! pretty good response id say
Now if mick doesnt start at least 2/3 of them players from last night after qpr what message would that give the rest of the squad ????
lets hope he does
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@ 15)
Yes Karl Henry is terrible at going football he is in the team for defensive duties.
we lost 3-0 last weekend where was he?
he was shocking against tottenham and villa!! we had one of the worst defensive records last season. He doesnt track the runners anymore – i used to like karl henry dont get me wrong but times up im afraid he isnt premiership standard. Mick knew this at the end of last year when he came out and said we needed a new CM and took captaincy off him. He was linked with QPR, Fulham, Everton etc. Mick knows he isnt good enough but god knows why he hasnt replaced him. We need someone in there who is premiership class – reo coker would have been a brilliant free or even joey barton…..
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paul render – People like you make me sick. He may not be the most gifted footballer in the world, but he has been instrumental in determining the league we are currently in, and more to the point he gives 100% every match.
There have been plenty of good for nothing mercinaries, who have been utterly useless and dont deserve to have put on the shirt. Big George doesnt deserve to be put into the same bracket as those. Hes a legend, and what he lacks in skill and ability, he makes up for in effort and detirmination.
PeteNuts – Ward has been one of our best players so far this season, so Im going to have to disagree with you on that one.
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As for team for sat
Hennessey
Foley (if fit if not stears)
Berra
Johnson
Ward
Jarvis
Hunt/Hamill
Adlene (behind doyle)
Ohara
Henry (purely cus theres no one else……cheers mick)
Doyle
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Let’s hope Mick’s vote of confidence in the three players is not akin to the confidence vote given to managers (in all businesses) shortly before they get axed. If so the players concerned might do well to pack their slippers on Saturday …. that’s if they make the squad! ;)
However, whatever team is picked pray the rub of the green is with them.
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Hammil needs a chance, spot on last night, better than jarvis.
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Elokobi, no, no, no, like the bloke but he is hopeless ! put him on the doors up town !
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Some of you lot really don’t have a clue. How can Henry be dropped for anyone? Henry is the only defensive midfielder in our squad. How can Mick possibly drop Henry for Guedioura or Edwards or Milijas? O’Hara, Guedioura, Edwards & Milijas are all attacking midfielders. This is the only reason Henry plays & like someone above pointed out, if we drop Henry & play 3 attacking midfielders in a 5 man midfield we will get ripped to bits!!!
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great thread #11, 15 and 31 all good shouts
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Hamill is quality,I guess Mick doesn’t like him much, I would like to see 4-5-1 at Liverpool. Hamill on the right side with Adelene in the middle. Bet it doesn’t happen square pegs and round holes come to mind again, hope I’m wrong!
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Karl Henry’s number one skill as a player was to pass backwards or sideways, he can’t even do that without losing the ball or putting a player under pressure. People on here saying his defensive work is second to none and a defensive ball winner, hes not doing that any more, hes simply not good enough at the minute and after 68 games for the wolves hes started 67 of them, which to me shows no matter what form he is in he will be played. I think he may have become complacent with his starting place and needs to be shown that his below average performances just arent acceptable. Swap him for Adlene and play Dave instead of Kightly much better link up with forward, instead of disjointed passing.
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Team for Saturday:
De Vries
Doughty
Berra
Johnson
Elokobi
Hammill
Guedioura
Milias
Edwards
Hunt
Fletcher
I WOULD CHOOSE ELOKOBI OVER WARD ANY DAY OF THE WEEK- HE IS BIG AND STRONG AND HE SCORES GOALS!!!
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Lets all pray that Fletcher is fit….Playing Doyle as a lone striker against Liverpool is madness, in fact I believe Doyle should not even start.
He is out of form, unreliable, and should mark time in the reserves for a while….I would prefer Ward up front or even Volkes
At the moment Doyle shows no hunger, so stick him in the squad and get him to fight for a place in the seniors…It will do him the world of good
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HAMMILL HAD A FALLING OUT WITH WARD
WARD IS MMs SON IN LAW- YOU DO THE MATHS!
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Lets face it, basically stubborn MM is saying, last night they did well (milijas, adlene, hammill) but i think i will stick with same team as i think they need to put things right!
He wont drop Henry because A: he said there is no contender for his shirt! so making a change would make him look stupid (so not gonna happen)
and B: he will not drop him as this would then hand victory to Barton in the war of words!
Problem is the team is suffering from his stubborness!
After last weekend i would leave a few out just to give them a wake up call! they would be, henry, elokobi, ohara, doyle, kightly!
in comes: adlene, milijas, hammill, hunt, fletcher (if fit)
team reads:
hennesey
stears
ward
johnson
berra
adlene
milijas
jarvis
hunt
hammill (free role)
fletch
might be a bit to attacking for pool game away but we may aswell do that because we look so uncomfortable being defensive!
Anyone agree?
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Far more important than the individual names mentioned in the article is the need to change the format to 4-5-1 for Saturdays game.
I will be amazed if the back four will be different to those that played so well in the first four Premiership games.
Assuming Fletcher is still not fit then Doyle will have to play the lone striker. The five in midfield should only, in my opinion, include just one winger. We can all pick and choose who those five should be. There are plenty of candidates.
Liverpool will be smarting after their 4-0 defeat at the hands of Spurs. It is not a game in which we should be too adventurous. A draw at Anfield is never a bad result.
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At least some of you are of the same opinion as me…play O’Hara, Milijas and Guedioura in the middle and we’ll be ripped to bits. Henry has to play with preferably O’Hara and Guedioura in front of him free to roam. I’d play Hammill on the right and Hunt on the left. If he doesn’t play Hammill then play Jarvis NOT Kightly. Doyle up front with OH and/or AG supporting him. Back four as you were before Saturday’s match, although I’d love Foley back at right-back if fit.
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52-Crowfish….agree
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george Elokobi is possible the worst footballer i’ve ever seen.
Back to the sunday league with you… chap.
GET HIM OUT OF THE CLUB NOW – He’s make Keogh look like a world beater
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De Vries
Foley / Doherty
Johnson
Berra
Ward
Hammil
Guedioura
Milias
Hunt
O’Hara
Fletcher
Bench: Wayne, Craddock, Jarvis, Henry, Doyle, Stearman
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15——- I for one do see the defensive work KH does! the thing is he usually is defending his own mistakes! almost every time he has ball it goes back, sideways, or wayward! putting unecessary presure on the defense! he is almost non existant as a forward minded player!
You have got to ask yourself, whats the point in winning the ball from the opposition then either giving it back to them or putting another one of our players in trouble???
Im afraid in this league you need everything! having a great engine and doing alot of graft off the ball is just not enough! your distribution is critical and his is pathetic!
Championship player with championship ability im afraid!
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Henry is poor, Kightly not fit and Hammill must wonder why we bought him and play someone that’s been out for 2 years with a serious injury, and not match fit ahead of him. Millijas far better than Henry who in my eyes is poor, did I already say that… O’hara and Johnson starting to look disinterested. Jarvis and Hennesy scared of the ball and physical contact and that does not seem to be going out of their game. The only player that Mick seems capable of improving is ‘son of’ Wardy! But to be fair to the gut he’s had to put up with constantly adjusting to different positions. Mick can’t build a squad, proves it with constant tweaking of team and not playing right / fit players in the right positions.
Other than that we are great!
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@52 CROWFISH..SPOT ON MATEY AGREE 100%
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@52 I agree except stearman he’s shocking should be no where near the 1st team
Pete nuts clearly your a ward hater Evan though ward has been our best player so far all season as much as I love elokobi he’s not good enough
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Petenuts
I suggest you put down the Rioja and get along to Molineux. Ward has been exceptional this season.
Example. Last Saturday when all around us was collapsing (except Berra), at half time Ward was switched from a forward role back to his left back position and effectively stopped the onslaught that Big George couldn’t cope with during the first half.
Maybe even “WANDERER” in Eire would agree with that, even if “DOYLE” as got to start scoring “GOALS”
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No 37, Foley NOT FIT not trained so will not be considered.
THE REST OF YOUR SELECTIONS
BANG ON!!!!!!
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61 jay jay, i was forced into stears as foley n zubes are out injured!!! best of a bad situation im afraid!
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@62 The good Farmer
I’d love to get to Molineux, but as I keep having to reiterate, I live in London, where the Rioja (ah, Rioja) is more plentiful and Mrs Pete keeps me occupied at weekends, and if you could only compare the relative merits of an afternoon in the Molineux stands, and Mrs Pete, you’d see that there ain’t no comparison to be made. But I’ll concede that you are rightish about Ward, he was superb in the first three games of the season, so I’ll amend my original postulation and, with great reluctance, let Wardy plough his left-back furrow a while longer and see if he can cement himself as Big George’s superior. Be nice if he can.
@ 61 jay jay
“You’re.” “YOU’RE.” “YOU’RE”!!!
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it be the same sqaud that lost to qpr i would play hammil instead then henry mick want change becasue he got his favourite players
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i was there last night and when the numpty mentions the 3 midfielders ardlene,millijas,and edwards why no mention of hammill he was better than hunt last night and is far better than kightly seems the kid must have opened his mouth or something, ya know what the numpty is like his way or no way.
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Everybody is saying that Henry offers no goal threat. He had a terrific run and shot 1st half against Spurs (forcing a terrific save from Spurs keeper) and hit the post against QPR. I’m not saying he’s brilliant but he came nearer to scoring in both of the last 2 games than any other Wolves player.
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Interesting a lot of posts refer to Hammil but MM never referred to him after last night’s game. You can only think that he’s got the wrong side of MM and, as others have found out, it’s hard to get back.
Shame cus I really rate the lad but the stubborn yorkshire man always thinks he knows best.
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crowfish totally disagree with you, kh isn’t good enough for the championship
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i would go with…
hennesey-o only player last week with a normal performance and why wouldnt mick play him?
stearman-
people may disagree with performance last week but the week before got man of the match and absolutely outplayed bale which is something ashley cole couldnt do in the england game
ward-
playing so well this season, has showed us why we didnt need to buy a left back as he has just been great another man of the match the other week
johnson-
hope hes fit and captained the side well
berra-
him and johnson have been working wonders together if you dont include last weeks game
henry-
im sorry everyone might disagree but he does so much that fans arent intrested in everyones all for the big crosses which karl doesnt do but he is our holding midlfield player and gets all the awkward balls from o’hara, when hes surrounded by three players and dont really well with them but no-one notices this
jarvis-
again why not?
hunt-
always puts in 100% same as ward
milijas or guedioura-
i would drop o’hara, i dont think hes been playing well recently, yes he does great balls but he loses the ball to often and gives it away to easily, what can he do which those two cant?
fletcher-
if fit, of course stick with the two upfront
doyle-
why is everyone dropping him? him and fletch work wonders together
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crowfish,totally right with your observations,mcarthy is incapable of doing anything different! the team performance would improve 50% by just replacing henry with AG .hammil obviously upset mick,kightly not good enough,doyle needs to start doing something and NM should be in.but mick wont change anything because he is so pig headed.where does this leave people like ag/nm who can see they are miles better than henry/ward but cant get a game,if i was one of them id think stuff you mick.
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GK – Hennessey
RB – Foley
CB – Berra
CB – Johnson
LB – Ward
LM – Jarvis
CM – Henry
CM – Guedioura
CAM – O’Hara
RM – Hunt
CF – Doyle
Has to be this team; Foley in for stearman as he’s just not good enough. Ward back to left back as Elokobi is too inconsistent. Five in the middle, 4-5-1 with O’Hara playing infront of Guedioura and Henry who will command the midfield and Hunt & Jarvis on the left and right with Doyle at centre forward putting in a shift. Perfect team imo.
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Get yer money on a right tanking this weekend.
In Mick we trust…….
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Time for Adlene to get a run out.
Stick with Elokobi, dropping him after his return wont help confidence. He had a mare against QPR so did most of the rest.
Liverpool lose to Brighton tonight, lose to us 1-0 Saturday and King Kenny gets the boot? We did it to Woy last year…
Charlie
ATLANTA WOLVES
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@ 62 Farmer Ted – I “SEE” what you’ve done there. Like it.
Personally, I think we have missed a trick in the summer not signing a new Karl Henry. First season I though he did really well to be honest but he has gone backwards ever since. And this from someone who doesnt like to get on any players back. If O Hara or Adelene could have the discipline to play the KH position then I would go with that. Personally, and unfortunately, I don’t think either has though.
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Well everyone is talking about henry as if he is not a good player but lets get it straight, He’s a good holding player and has been a great servant to wolves but lacks any forward thinking, every time he gets the ball it goes sideways or back mostly sideways henry as I call him and at this point that’s not what we need, the likes Guedioura and Ohara are what is required, Milijas I’m still not sure if he is prem quality, he has played well in lesser games recently but cost us goals last season giving the ball away in bad positions under no preasure, that is why MM put him on then took him of again in the same game. As for going back to one up front I don’t think we need to get that drastic just yet.
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Mick will choose the same squad that lost 3-0 to QPR. I would play Hammill instead of Henry. Mick won’t change the team because he has his favourite players.
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Hennessey
Stearman
Johnson
Berra
Ward
Henry
O Hara
Milijas
Hunt
Hammil
Doyle
De Vires
Jarvis
Fletcher
Elokobi
Edwards
Guerdoura
Foley (if fit, if not, Doherty)
That set up should give us a chance of getting something from the game.
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I’m with Monty (44)
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Hennessy
Doherty
Zubar
Johnson
Ward
Hammil
Guediora
Henry
Milijas
Jarvis
Fletcher /Doyle if fletchers not fit
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How can Kevin Doyle (happy petenuts?) be lone front man?
Surely Mick wont go with him, it as to be Fletcher after all Mick is aware that Kevin Doyle has not scored since????!
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After the QPR debacle,there needs to be changes.However i have a feeling MM will go for his ‘tried & trusted’ for the Liverpool game.
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Why do people come on here naming teams when they have no idea of the fitness of several players, no idea who is looking sharp in training and little idea as to who is mentally right. It’s as ridiculous as a Wanderer in Eire “POST”!!
Hennessey
Stearman
Johnson
Berra
Ward
Henry
Guediora
O’Hara
Jarvis
Hammill
Doyle
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I never post on here, but i just needed to put forward my case regarding KH.
The guy is just not good enough for this league. he never tackles anymore, passes back to the goalie or gives the ball away. He only covers his own mistakes.
In the 7 games he was out last year we picked up 12 points (more than a quarter of our total points) and that included Liverpool away and Chelsea at home.
I rest my case.
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just to add to my last post it took wolves another 16 games to get 13 points after KH came back into the side in January.
Stats don’t lie. drop him
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Kevin Doyle’s statistics.
Played 65
scored 15
Shots 24
Assists 4
Headers 3
Pass completion 39%
Let you guys decide if Kevin Doyle is irreplaceable….
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Isn’t it strange that at the end of last season when we needed to produce to stay up we DROPPED Berra?
Everyone above has but him in their starting 11.
At best he should be with Henry on the bench.
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Last season we got 12 points from the 7 games KH was out and then got only 13 points from the next 16 games when he was back in the team.
Drop him now. Stats don’t lie, he is costing us points.
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This is the only team to turn out on Saturday:
Hennessey
Ward
Berra
Johnson
Stearman
Defensive unit was fine until MM messed about with it on Saturday.
Hammil (Kites not fit)
Milijas (Ohara, one good game three bad games and Milija also started to tackle last season)
Guediora (Take KH out the spotlight, this guy can do the lot)
Hunt (Jarvis hasn’t been the same player since he went to the England set up)
Doyle
Fletcher
Midfield is our problem and if SEB was fit I would pair him with Fletcher!
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stick spray on if fletch isnt fit but doyle, come on hardly a goal scorer, esp if fletch has scored more in less games. simply doesnt score enough for me. how many times have we seen him be in a shooting position and want that extra touch. believe or not i’m not anti doyle, simply needs to score more. and sorry petenuts big george better as a centre back and i’d put him behind stears and berra. gets turned to easily.
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HARD WOLF, holding midfielder! no way he just keeps putting the defence under pressure, mostly with suicidal passes or when he’s not under pressure puts himself under pressure, he’s a ball winning central midfielder, but he hasnt been one since that stupid tackle against wigan.
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i’d love to know how long some of the ppl on this site have been watching the wolves,,,,
big george our worst player ever??? he’s by no means the best by any stretch but he is competing in the premier league, a level at which most wolves players over the last 20 years could only dream of. robert taylor, steve corica, rob hindmarsh, paul blades, gary bellamy, john paskin, frankowski,,,,the list goes on. same people moan about karl henry, the defensive ball winning midfielder wolves fans were crying out for for years yet, now we moan that he doesnt pass the ball forward enough. we are still trying to establish ourselves as a premier league club the likes of henry, george, stephen ward and co have been vital in getting us to where we are,,,,it would be good to see more people getting off their backs and behind the players
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in fact that might make an intersting thread, from our promotion from the old fourth division up until now,,,our 20 best and 20 worst players…..
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I think people will find that Hennessey will have been dropped and Dorus de Vries will be in goal on Saturday
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come on mick surely hamill guiediorra and de vries and big george should be starting saturday look how many goals hennessey has conceded 5 in the last two games de vries all the way
4-3-1-2
GK de vries
lb elokobi
rb stearman/Zubar when fit
cb johnson
cb Berra
rm Hunt
LM Jarvis
cm gioderora
cam Hamill attacking role behind the two strikers like when he was at barnsley
fw fletcher
fw ebankes blake when fit /edwards
no henry no ward no o hara and we will be a attacking force as shown last night mccarthy must be sacked if he keeps showing favourism to ward and henry hamill deserves a chance after last nights performance plus i feel we still need a expierence good quality goal scorer in place of no goals man doyle come on mick get it right up the wolves
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i’ve had a few too many tonight so i might as well join all of the above and play premier manager 2011. so here goes, hic.
1. de vries
2.doherty r.b.
3.ward . l.b.
4. jhonson.capt
5.berra.
6.o’hara
7.edwards
8.henry
9.doyle
10.hunt
11.jarvis.
12.spray
13.hennessy
13.stearman
15.hammill
16.fletcher.
utw,
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51 – Please tell me that is a joke!! If it isn’t ……..
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93, Matt
Mate
Gary Bellemy was a legend, he was great!!!
A bit slow, granted, but still great.
I agree with your point though, to a point, I draw the line at big George, hte level we are at is a level too high for him the other night proved that, he played well against what was a poor championship side, yet on Saturday he struggled very badly.
But I agree with you about the other 2 you mention the stick some of our players receive from, so called ‘fans’ on here is unbelieveable.
Step forward Jiwal………………..
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93. If you put Bellamy in the same level as the mssing piece, blades etc then you cannot have seen him play!
Sort yaself out!
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Paul birch in top 20 loved watching him play when I was a kid.would liked to had Kenny miller back in the summer would have been a good squad player.reckon get a draw saturday Liverpool are terrible.52 agree with your team attack liverpool there defence is shaky as a drunk in wetherspoons
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TEAM FOR SATURDAY :
Hennessy
Foley
Berra
Johnson
Ward
Henry
Hunt
Guedioura
O’hara
Jarvis
Doyle (FLETCHER IF FIT)
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I’d go almost the same as goldilocks (post 90) apart from if dave edwards is fit and play 4-5-1 dropping fletcher. edwards is great at getting forward and poaching goals
KH – had a few good games but went back into his shell after Barton scared him off again
JOH – one good game, three bad, milijas needs a chance
MK – not up to speed, hammill deserves a chance but suspect mick has some problem with him so maybe Jarvis
Defence – keep the same as first 3 games, were doing ok till mick changed it. Would prefer Foley at RB, but stearman is doing ok and foley is injured/coming back from injury.
People are mad to think elokobi can play regularly in the prem, he had one or two good games last season, the QPR game showed he has not improved, Championship is his level at best
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I haven’t seen anything impressive from O’Hara this season. Time for Guedioura to replace him.
Hennessey
Foley
Johnson
Berra
Ward
Hunt
Henry
Edwards
Guedioura
Jarvis
Doyle/Fletcher
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Anyone that is picking Elokobi ahead of Ward, for the left back spot, cannot have been to a single game this season. Alongside Johnson and Hennessey, they have been our most consistent performers this season.
O’Hara and Henry have not been at the racers and that is why all 3 central midfielders that played Tuesday should be in with a chance. Please Mad Mick, do not play Kightly in the Premiership again this season – unless he has been loaned out to a Championship for gametime!
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Now that McFadden has joined Wolves on trial, it will certainly throw the ‘cat among the chickens’ and I really don’t think Doyle will be around for long if he shows any talent.
He will really click with Fletcher, and this could be the master stroke move Mccarthy
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90 Goldilocks
Agree with you m8 , Only difference I’d drop Doyle & play Edwards . I think a few of our more talented players have become complacent & need a good kick up the backside .
Thing is MM ay the man to do it , as it has been since he’s been here you’re either in with Mick or out in the cold regardless of current form or ability .
WOLVES AY WE !
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wanderer in eire – your stats post (87), have you got a source for that ? I’ll admit i’m not convinced by your pass completion stat at all.
Taking the others at face value, it seems he averages a goal just over every 4 games, but he actually scores from 63% of the shots he takes. That’s not a bad percentage and maybe, just maybe, at times he as sacrificed his own goal scoring by doing extra work outside the box to the benefit of the team as a whole.
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thats it then, once more we am in free fall, thats it then, am we a poor team like last seaon … yes we am, thats it then.
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Responce from my last post yesterday.
Nice to see that there are people out there that agree with me regarding KH not being left out. Lets put a few people straight, One person said he was rubbish at the villa, spurs and Q.P.R. To start with that’s the first time we have gone to the villa playing 4-4-2 and got anything out of the game, as i said yesterday you can’t play with 2 wingers without a holding midfielder. Against spurs we were the better side for an hour playing against a top side. Best chance in the game for us made by himself was by KH in the first half. Q.P.R. played on the Monday and Ripped Newcastle to shreds, god no’s how it stayed 0-0, they played 5 in the middle as they did against us. Mick should have gone 4-5-1 to stop them playing us off the park, that’s why KH and a few others looked poor against them. There was no balance to the side!
A few wrote about the things that KH doesn’t do his defensive duties that well for one, i must be watching a different player to some of you lot or is it i understand football a bit more! This guy does the boring side of the game very well, he’s not world class granted and yes he does make a few mistakes, but he is the best we have in that role, why can’t people see that? Guedioura to play along side henry on Saturday.
We have Sandwell town in 3 games time, so all you knockers stay away for the Newcastle game and let the true supporters get behind the gold shirt, to give us a chance of beating the albion!
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KH No1 fan – I replied to you yesterday and agreed that he can play as well as you describe. But he didnt against QPR or Tottenham. I have to say that we wasnt by far the better team against Tottenham, it was an even match and I dont think either team edged it. As I said though, he was poor in the QPR match. You could forgive him not making a single challenge in the first half, if it was an even game, but considering they were camped in our own half, you would expect a defensive midfielder to make a challenge or two.
Just to point out that for their 3rd goal, Henry tracked back running into our own box, without even watching the ball. The ball broke to traore and Henry could easily have cut it out, but because he wasnt even watching the ball, he didnt even move. Baring in mind he was already in the box on his own, you would then think a defensive midfielder would be able to cut out a low pass to the front post, but it turns out he still fails to even move, and I think it was Stearman that ended up tracking back to try and cut out the cross but ultimately failed. For me, thats just poor play, and considering when Guedioura came on he immediately started doing the defensive things that Henry had failed to do, I personally think that Guedioura deserves a chance to play that role.
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wolfhedd, i think guedioura is a great central midfielder but he attacks far to much to be a holding midfielder, i wouldn’t like to take that away from his game by making him play in KH role, fans will get on his back when he costs us goals for being out of position. play him along side KH! they may complement one another.
As i said KH in not a world beater, but i hate to see and hear it time after time players being slated when they don’t deserve it, remember how much we paid stoke for him, remember how far we have come from when mick took charge. peaople tend to for get that. yes there will be a time in the furture when we will need to replace KH but until then all i’ll say is if KH plays get behind him!
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87 Eire – have you forgotten your resolution to be positive? It lasted one day I think.
Your stats (except for the goals) are bizarre. Are you suggesting that Kevin Doyle shoots once every three games and heads the ball once every 20? “IDIOT”
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KH No 1 Fan-I agree with you said before he does the dirty work,I agree the last 2 matches haven’t been his best, I would like to see 5 in midfield against Liverpool..
Wanderer in Eire didn’t Kevin Doyle score against Fulham….
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My starting eleven for the Liverpool match would be Hennessey Foley Ward Berra no other choice Johnson Jarvis Milijas O’Hara Guedioura Hunt Doyle formation 5-4-1 but i think Mick will go same formation with Hennessey Stearman Ward Berra Johnson Jarvis Henry O’Hara Guedioura Hunt Doyle subs Foley Edwards Milijas Kites Hammil Fletcher and the dutch keeper
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Edwards will start. MM brought him off at half time during the Milwall game so thats a guarantee. Guedioura will get splinters on Saturday and I doubt whether Milijas will even get into the squad. I agree though that Guedioura should be replacing Henry in Midfield. Milijas would be in my squad every week. It’s time for a shake up but MM will do what he thinks best. Good Luck for Saturday Boys I hope we get a result whatever the team.
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