Results all that matter in the derby

Friday 18th February 2011, 9:10AM GMT.

Results all that matter in the derby

Wolves blogger Tim Spiers believes the Black Country derby is where results – not plaudits – matter as his team prepare to make the trip to the Hawthorns.

It’s often said that in football, as well as sport in general, winning is 90 per cent mental and 10 per cent physical.

In the case of what is increasingly becoming a ludicrous season at Molineux, absurd enough to be written up as a Shakespearean farce, I’m inclined to agree.

How else can you explain the fact we deservedly beat Manchester United, Manchester City and Chelsea, but remain bottom of the table?

Equally as deserving were wretched defeats against Wigan (twice), West Ham and Blackpool when the expectation in those games was for us to do far better.

After we downed Chelsea 1-0 their captain John Terry said we were as good as any side they had faced all season, while before the United win Sir Alex Ferguson declared our league position “false.”

On our day we can, as has been proved, beat the best in this league but you have to say statistically, with the table as is stands, we are likely to be relegated in three months time.

Consistency and momentum are overused buzz words when talking about football, but the truth is we’ve had none of either all season.

The mental side of our game came into question earlier a few months ago, when we conceded a succession of late goals to turn first-half leads into defeats or draws.

But the problems haven’t been addressed and it could cost us dear. By no means are we the only football team to have suffered from a mental affliction. Indeed, the game is rife with examples including of course our infamous collapse of 2002.

Most recently Arsenal have consistently come up short when it’s mattered most, through inexperience, a lack of belief.

Brazil at the 1982 World Cup, Kevin Keegan’s Newcastle in 1996, Hungary’s Magnificent Magyars of the 1950s and the Total Football of Holland 20 years later – all sides which should have achieved greatness, but failed.

On the flip side unequivocal mental strength can turn an average side into world-beaters.

Just look at Greece’s victorious Euro 2004 side, Nottingham Forest’s two European Cup wins under Brian Clough or Wimbledon’s 1988 FA Cup triumph.

Then you have got the startling statistic that Jose Mourinho hasn’t lost a home league game for nine years, a quite astonishing feat which proves how team psychology comes collectively through one man only – the gaffer.

Our own Mick McCarthy, loved by many at Molineux but so shamefully derided by some, has instilled some wonderful qualities into our largely inexperienced side.

Through the players his character traits are there for all to see – honesty, desire, commitment, passion, underdog spirit and a willingness to make the best of what is often limited ability, compared to the top sides.

But they also take his weaknesses onto the field – in particular his stubborn reluctance to try anything different or with wild abandon, as evidenced in our infuriating unwillingness to shoot from just outside the box.

McCarthy is a very likeable chap and that’s true of our team too, but do they and he have the mental capacity to avoid relegation and push on next season to mid-table?

The nagging feeling is that McCarthy lacks the nous to take us to the so-called next level but, like the players, he’s still learning in the Premier League and deserves the chance to prove himself.

Psychology will count for a lot this Sunday and again the following Saturday in what is the most important double-header of the season so far, by a distance.

Defeat in either game is unthinkable but going on what’s already happened this season we should be anticipating at least one. However, with time and games running out you’d have to think that four points is a minimum requirement.

The Baggies have been on a nightmare run of late, with their own mental fragility displayed in abundance when collapsing from 3-0 up at home to West Ham last week.

But with a new manager on board they’ve got a clean slate with which to launch a 12-game survival bid.

Roy Hodgson is an extremely good appointment for the Baggies, a fantastic coup which gives them a superb chance of avoiding relegation.

His wealth of experience alone counts for a few points and if he can iron out their defensive errors they should have enough goals in them, though Peter Odemwingie and Carlos Vela, to stay up, as much as it pains me to say it.

As for Sunday, as ever I’m sure it’ll be tight, fast, furious and ugly.

We’ve looked a little stronger in defence of late, finally playing a settled back four of Ronald Zubar, Richard Stearman, Christophe Berra and George Elokobi. The mistakes are still there but the continuity of playing with each other week in, week out is helping.

Behind them goalkeeper Wayne Hennessey is in the form of his career and with the West Brom defence looking so shaky, this could be where we hold a slight advantage.

It’s a game for keeping calm under pressure, showing an unquestionable will to win and fighting for every single challenge and loose ball.

To be honest there’s precious little to choose between us and them, except for the fact they’ve had such a great record in Black Country derbies for what seems like a very long time.

It’s this record, and the fact it’s Hodgson’s first game in charge, which gives me a bad feeling.

But with Wolves that’s probably a good thing.


  1. 1
    PeteNuts

    Results certainly do matter, but given that I full expect us to hammer six past the hapless Boingboingers and give them such a pasting that by the end of it they’ve got tinnitus and blurred vision, I think we can reasonably expect a few plaudits along the way too.

    West Brom 1 Wolves 6 – it is written in the stars, o my brothers!

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  2. 2
    Ye Olde South Bank

    “Consistency and momentum are overused buzz words when talking about football, but the truth is we’ve had none of either all season”.

    Who’s genuinely surprised? It’s partly due to a horrendous injury list, but also because of Mick’s incessant, infuriating fiddling and a legendary ability to play his favourites. He’d better get it right at The Poorthornes, that’s for sure.

    Don’t worry about it being Hodgson’s first game in charge, let the Tescos worry about Wolves being overdue a win there. It’s coming, and there’ll never be a better time than Sunday.

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    DAYTONA WOLF

    WIN OR A DRAW AGAINST THE BAGGIES AND A WIN AGAINST BLACKPOOL, AND WE CAN STAY UP, A LOSS TO EITHER OF THESE WOULD LEAVE US RELYING ON SLIP UPS BY OTHER TEAMS, SEEMS A LONG WAY FROM ‘WE WONT GET CAUGHT IN A RELEGATION BATTLE’ SHOULD BE A CRACKER COME ON YOU WOLVES !!

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    Albrightondek

    Certainly we have not been very consistant all season and we have lost valuable points late in some of the games. However, we have shown in recent weeks that we have the ability, both mentally and physically, to win games against anybody in the Premiership. For me the improvement has been down to the form and understanding of the Stearman and Berra partnership in defence.

    I just hope that the game on Sunday is a good old fashioned competitive one without any players or fans misbehaving.

    However, using the parlance of my younger days; Let’s scag em!

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    Dave Maiden (Cumbrian Wolf)

    I wish you hadn’t said anything about Hennessey Tim! last time you praised Zubar for playing well he had a couple of poor games and had a mare at Bolton.

    Maybe I am just being supersticous and wary of tempting fate….it is a Derby though and I am pooping myself already!

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    Mick will save us (i hope)

    We will keep a clean sheet on sunday, Theyre attack will feel like theyre running into a brick wall, and it wont be because Mr Morgan used his construction expertise to build one directly infront of our goal.

    Hopefully we will score and then not just sit back for the remainder of the game. Even if the method works, it makes me really nervous. With theyre new manager, i can see 1 of 2 things happening, they perform brilliantly and impress theyre new gaffer, or they perform misserably due to not having enough time with him. Who knows in football how they will perform, but if we perform at our best, we shouldnt have to worry about them too much.

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    Dave

    God Bless Derby Day i’ve got a funny feeling we will win this one 3-1 O’hara to score his first wolves goal. See you all there come on wolves.

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  8. 8
    Shelfield Wolf

    Good blog.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if nerves got the better of both the crowd and the players resulting in a very dull encounter.

    Stearman scares the hell out of me. JC is my choice.
    I hope Man U (2nd half) Zubes turns up.

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  9. 9
    wbabomber

    Hi Tim glad you mentioned Wayne being in good form……..oooooooooooooo let the Tim Spiers curse strike again, rememeber Zubar, lol.

    I must admit i only enjoy local derbies if we win them, and the build up is just sickening.

    I honestly think the loser of this game will go down, i hope not, but thats my gut feeling.

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    brummierobwolves

    1) Still on the medication I see?
    We must not lose on Sunday and then beat Blackpool the following week. Against the Tesco’s it could go either way but we are well capable of exploiting their defensive weaknesses with the likes of Doyle, Fletcher, SEB, Jarvis, Hammill and O’Hara but two of these will not start, most likely. Our away form and form against Brum’s third team is dire and I am going on the basis that we are due a change of fortune and you never know might get a league penalty at last. On this basis Wolves to scrape a 2-1 – fingers crossed.
    Irrespective, Albion, West Ham, Wigan and Blackpool have terrible run ins!

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    pye green wolf

    what experience has roy hodgson got of managing a team in albions position and turning it round, he as only had one succesful team in england (if you can call his fulham team succesful did’nt acctually win anything)took blackburn an established mid table team down to the depths destroyed liverpool an established top six side.so to big him up as something special i think is way of the mark .

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  12. 12
    Wish WE had a new manager

    Tim – are you trying to cover all bases ??

    You say “McCarthy, loved by many at Molineux but so shamefully derided by some” to appease the happy clappers – but then immediately point out a long list of points including “The nagging feeling is that McCarthy lacks the nous to take us to the so-called next level” and “his stubborn reluctance to try anything different or with wild abandon”.

    I hope we win on sunday and ultimately stay up – but that can’t cover up the fact we have been bottom three nearly all season – and thats par for the course with Mccarthy wherever he goes.

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    Wish WE had a new manager

    And yes Hodgson is a great appointment – just a pity we didn’t have the bottle to make the hatd decision to change the manager – then WE could have someone who iscapable of developing a team at this level.

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    laughingwolf

    14. Woy, the manager who has already lost to Wolves this season at home whilst Manager of Liverpool? Great.

    He took Fulham to a European Cup final, become Liverpool’s Manager and now resides in the lovely Sandwell to try to save a very poor team from a very difficult run-in. The rise and fall of football.

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    PeteNuts

    @ Brummierobwolves

    If I need medication, Skippy, it would need to be some kind of stimulant to prevent me from nodding off every time your dreary posts pop up. Perk up, man! It’s a big bright beautiful world out there, and it’s about to get even brighter!

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  16. 16
    John Dillinger

    laughing wolf- your a numpty

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    brummierobwolves

    15) You are our answer to Sir Terry Baggie. Now get down the Newhampton on yer cheap plonk. There is not a chance of us winning 6-1 and unlike you, I will be there!

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  18. 18
    PeteNuts

    @17 brummierobwolves

    Congratulations on your attendance, sadly I live and work a couple of hundred miles away and don’t get to any games as I’d like, hence my lack of po-faced self-importance and similar absence of the misplaced belief that this somehow makes me know what the hell I’m talking about when it comes to football. While you’re in the area of the Hawthorns, perhaps you could see if the commercial outlets in the area sell senses of humour, quick intelligence and consistent grammar, and then make a fiscal investment in all three that would be even smarter than the one you made in purchasing your season ticket which, I’m afraid to tell you, has turned you into THE most crashing bore.

    As an aside, Rioja in the New H is not cheap, but then since they started enforcing certain standards regarding the clientele, I would not expect you to know.

    Duster, why do these people insist on stepping to PeteNuts, do you think? It’s like shooting fish in a barrel with a bazooka…

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  19. 19
    Sebastian Melmoth

    18. PeteNuts.
    Spot on old boy.

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  20. 20
    PeteNuts

    @19

    PeteNuts speaks only the truth, he just sometimes speaks it in the language of a 19th century alcoholic author.

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    Walter Wolvescarpet

    In vino veritas Pete. But six is a bit over the top eh? More like two and four over the top, I´d say. Cheers anyway,

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