Mick McCarthy still backing Wolves
Monday 27th December 2010, 11:30AM GMT.
Defiant boss Mick McCarthy today insisted beleaguered Wolves will win their Premier League survival battle.
But McCarthy admitted his side were “not good enough” as they blew a big chance by losing 2-1 at home to relegation rivals Wigan.
“The defending for both goals was really poor and we’re not good enough, tough enough or experienced enough that we can come back from two goals down early on,” said the manager.
And Wolves barely needed reminding that the only team in the 19-year history of the Premier League to stay up after being bottom at Christmas was Albion in 2005.
Yesterday’s setback was greeted by boos at half-time and full-time, as well as a mass walkout before substitute Steven Fletcher provided what turned out to be false hope with an 87th-minute consolation.
But McCarthy believes there is still time to turn things around despite facing back-to-back trips to Liverpool and West Ham before hosting champions Chelsea.
“My confidence doesn’t get knocked as easily now and I’m not going to let one performance change it,” said the boss, who insisted he will go all-out to win at Liverpool on Wednesday.
But, asked about the psychological effect on the players of being bottom of the table, McCarthy admitted he is concerned.
“I don’t know,” he said. “We’ll have to see how that affects us all but we need points and will have to try to win at Liverpool.”
And McCarthy admitted his players blew a big chance. “That was an opportunity because we could have won and been looking down at the teams below us,” he said. “But there are plenty of games left and who’s to say we can’t go and win at Liverpool? Liverpool didn’t play yesterday so they’ll have had extra time to prepare, but we’ll see if that’s an advantage. We’ll go there and try to win it.”
McCarthy added: “There’s only one way left for us to go now with where we are and the games we’ve got remaining and that is up.
“We didn’t have a good day yesterday, but I don’t know how we would have played if we’d not gone 1-0 behind after nine minutes.”
“We’ll have to play a lot better than we did yesterday.”
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It’s like listening to an old broken record which should have been put in the bin a long time ago!
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Just do the decent thing and resign. Another clueless shambolic display. Morgan/Moxey time to stop dithering and act to save the season.
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Yet more rubbish from a manager who like the team isn’t good enough. Come on Mr Morgan us numpties have had enough
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its ok saying we wernt good enough mick but the buck stops with you. as a wolves fan for over 35 years i do feel its time for a management change. as i feel the same as every other wolves fan out there the buck stops with management so YOU YES YOU MICK McCarthy you should do the right thing and walk away from this massive club and let someone with some premership managerial experence take over before its too late and we end up back in the championship………..
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Oh by the way I can’t wait for the next player do his talking through the media (we’re going to do this and we’re going to do that) rather than on the pitch!
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He lives in cloud cookoo land does he not know that he and clip board who pick the team. He doesn’t pick his best players or play thenm in there best positions. Question why tactically does he tell them to give the ball to the opposition from the kick off?
so they can score a goal….IE pass the ball back to the goallie and let him boot it up field. He wonders why we concede goals in the first few minutes.. But I’m a numpty so what does that make the dynamic duo???
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Mick, you do realise this is your last match in charge of WWFC
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We dont care what you have to say we dont beleive you thicko all we wont is you out and big sam in.
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Happy Clapper here, just to say, don’t worry everyone, Wolves will not go down, not while Mick ‘Merlin’ McCarthy is in charge.
It was only another match lost and we can lose plenty more before the season’s over but no need to worry. We can beat Liverpool, West Ham and Chelsea and then we will all be smiling and happy clappers together.
Have a nice day now!
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MM must be bipolar if he thinks we can stay up!!!
If he had an ounce of honour he’d sack Connor and the resign.
The stat show that he is the worst Prem manager ever.
If he doesn’t resign Morgan should sack him.
UTW
UTN
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Yes we were not good enough and not for the first time either. Not much more to say other than we are the worst team in the Premier league this season.
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Mick,Wolves will NOT SURVIVE so long as you remain in charge,It is YOU that is not good enough,Played 84 won 15 drawn 18 lost 51 shows your ability at the top level.How on earth could you prefer a £100000 striker(come left back,central midfielder,left/right sided midfielder)who has not scored a goal in 4 seasons above a SEVEN MILLION pounds striker who has scored 5 this season.Only you thinks Foley can play in midfield,only you thinks Ward and Elokobi are premiership Left backs,only you can spend £38 million but play only 3 against Wigan,Finally only YOU could have dreamed that fantastic tactical decision to play the ball straight back to the goalie on kickoff,(who boots it straight to the opposition).
No MICK accept it it is YOU who is out of his depth.
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Mr. Morgan. Please be aware that at least six of us in the North Bank are talking of not renewing their season tickets next year. If you are adamant about sticking with Mick then please don’t give him anymore money to spend. It’s just embarrasing!
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quote we blew it! its to late are moxey and morgan bothered? are they heck or they would have done something earlier.perhaps they should also be gone?
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We need a new manager before the vat goes up.
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The bottom line is that we are in serious danger of being relegated, after another poor result against one of our relegation rivals.
The biggest problem we’ve got is Morgan will not sack McCarthy, because Moxey will talk him out of it.
No decent players will want to come to a team that are rock bottom in January.
With all this in mind we will be playing in the Championship next season.
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Shades of Custer just before the Battle of the Little Bighorn?
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5 i agree,..why when we kick off and we have 100% possession of the ball do we kick it straight to the goalkeeper, who then boots it upfield and turns the possession we had to 50/50?. Can someone, ideally mad Mick explain the logic?
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Or Churchillian? Take your pick.
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No Mick
The headline should be “your not good enough”
Watching you and clipboard on the line yesterday was embarrassing. Same old stories, lack of tactics and same old drivel again and again
Thanks for all you’ve done but it’s time to go.
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Steve Morgan and Jez Moxey have blind loyalty towards MM and Clipboard Connor but total contempt towards the fans!
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Mick we weren’t good enough !!!! . Your not good enough at this level. Alardyce in for me .
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Mick can add this to his cv now – “been beaten by wigan home and away” more like been beaten by a pub team!
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Let’s look on the Brightside.
We WILL BE RELEGATED!
BUT
New young Manager MAY be signed.
WE WILL SELL –
SEB, Doyle, Fletcher, Jarvis, Zubar, Hunt and have millions in the bank!
The BOARD will then give it to MM to SQUANDER ONCE AGAIN!!
After all the sacrifices a lot of us supporters make to buy season tickets, we get rewarded by the likes of the pathetic performance against a team that WILL ALSO be RELEGATED.
Following our relegation I for one, will not renew my season ticket as the club will inevitably put up prices and tell us that we are getting more games for our money!!
The BOARD HAVE NO STOMACH FOR SACKING ANYONE.
Just wondering how players like Jarvis, Fletcher and Jones feel about not getting into the team behind Ward, Foley and Edwards?
Why would anyone give MM money in January as he will spend it badly and leave them on the bench anyway? SIDWELL??????????????
What the hell do we need a second rate player like Sidwell for – Oh yes – to go with all the other second rate players who started the game yesterday!!
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Not good enough is the understatement of the year,an apology to all the fans that spent hard earned money to watch the dross served up yesterday would be more appropriate.
A completely out of touch Walter Mitty Manager who thinks we are not Championship bound says it all.
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Dudley borm Sam Alladyce me thinks.
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The first step for a recovering alcoholic is to recognize he has a problem. MM admits the team is not good enough so he has taken the first step – the next step is to accept that he is in charge and needs to take responsibility for the ongoing poor performance and step aside. His record at this level is criminal – better Managers with excellent records in this Division have been fired!!!
He berates fans who care about their team and not once apologizes to them for the consistently disappointing results. The least the fans expect is that the team can win most of its home matches and serve up some good entertainment in the process. Instead, they are treated to “work rate”, little creativity,very few shots on target, goals given up either early or late in the games.
The owner needs to take some action while there is still a chance that our season can be rescued.
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Our only remaining hope is that we can get a couple of defenders in during the January window, all of our problems lie there.
Mick obviously doesn’t want to play out most expensive to date/leading goalscorer (Fletcher) so why not just sell him. The money from that sale plus the van damn money could be used to get in a decent couple of defenders. Alternatively, if we can’t sign permanent deals (who wants to go to a relegation favourite?) then just get a couple of expensive mercenaries in til the end of the season, which could be financed with the 2.5 million we got for Van Damn, it must be better than muddling through with championship players who will send us back to that level.
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McCarthy added: “There’s only one way left for us to go now with where we are”… Mick’s most prophetic quote of the season.
I sat there yesterday, frozen to the core watching the shambles unfold. Note to Mr Morgan.. rather than give the manager millions to waste again in January donate it to charity rather than your competitors.
.. or better still remove the Premier league’s worst ever manager, get O’Neill in and give him the money.
.. or is it part of the plan to be relegated and become the new yo-yo boys??
If it is tell us now and I’ll spend my money somewhere else too.
Molineux was a grey place yesterday, the team and the fans are starting to resemble the manager. For the first time ever I failed to jump out of my seat when we scored.. It’s called apathy and it’s setting in.
McCarthy Out !!!
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Well that must be the statement of the season, so far.
We need a leader and Captain on the field no not Craddock or Henry.
Foley is a very good player but never midfield so why persist? Edwards is a good player, but not in the way the team was set up, SEB/Doyle/ or Fletcher on their own will never work, when is Morgan going to tell him.
When is someone on the board going to put him and us out of his/our misery?
Would any of us give him any more money to spend on second rate/injured players, whatever you think of him and what he has done, it is here and now that matters.
If you were a good Premier player looking for a club would you come to Wolves at the moment, of course not, that is the issue for our survival, which may change if a new Manager is appointed quickly. SOS
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Big Sam in please:
1. Born in Dudley
2. Long time Wolves fan
3. Knows how to treat fans right.
4,. Usually plays his best team.
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Almost 40million spent since being promoted and we start with 7 players who were with us in the Championship ,more to the point the defence that started yesterday barr Zubar was the same that conceeded goal after goal in the Championship,McCarthys had 2 years to fix this and he has failed miserably.
I am begining to think that the management is not too bothered about being relegated because they have the problem of being without the Stan Cullis stand next year,so the capacity will be reduced to 20,000.Steve Morgan seems more interested in developing the stadium than developing the team BIG MISTAKE.
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MICK please leave,you are taking the club down,yes you brought us up surely that does not mean you have to take us down and who knows what that wiil bring,maybe another 20yrs in the lower leagues.
This type of position cannot be surrendered without fight,we should not be in this predicament!Yes lose to CHELSEA,SPURS,EVERTON,MAN U,MAN CITY,ARSENAL,but the rest we should be competing with and getting results with our current squad.Only one reason for the failures “YOU”MICK!.
If one asked you a prem manager as had 97games and won 16 would you seriously think he as done a good job? Oh and after investing more than the teams around us?
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16 wins in 97 Premiership games!!
How bad does McCarthy have to be before someone with intelligence says “enough is enough?”
This is now just a sad farce that will be played out until the end of the season, when all of our dreams will have been ground mercilessly into the dust.
I feel like crying, it hurts that bad!
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We need to survive.
This is a tough Prem this season ..no mugs like last Year.
Next season Prem will be weaker (based on teams coming up).. so we must cling on this Year and consolidate next year
Until recently, there was no real ATTAINABLE alternative to Mick ( M o N’ fans ..pls stop taking the drugs immediately ..he wont come)
A bizzare opprtunity has arisen to recruit a highly experienced Prem Manager who was sacked whilst doing a decent job ..who also happens to be a Wolves Fan
If we dont ..someone else will (one of our relegation ‘rivals’)
Its all about survival now
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For first time I am thinking about not renewing my Season ticket…
Travel from Leeds every home game is getting painful watching this rubbish and same crap coming form Mick’s mouth.
Petrol Cost gone up to £1.25 p/l so that £50 in fuel there and back.
Ticket cost £20 (dues to early bird)
£70 before I even start every home game for Rubbish being shown, And I’m sure there are fellow fans out there in same boat.
Moxey / Morgan – You are losing the fans faith in you if you dont act now.
Even heard a 7/8 year old saying he wanted to go home after 60 minutes…..
Goodness sake these kids are the future…
ACT NOW !!!
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McCarthy could give both himself and the Club a far better chance, were he to take a step back and adopt a more realistic assessment of his squads’ abilities than he currently seems to hold.
Wolves are unarguably one of the weakest squads in the division, with perhaps no more than 4-5 players of genuine up-to-scratch quality at this level.
As such, he needs to make it a given that when his best players are available, they will play as a matter of course, irrespective of how well stand-in players may have performed previously.
It hardly needs saying that his oft-criticised tendency to play individuals out of position needs to stop forthwith, other than in cases of extreme expediency.
And finally, given that we are now bottom of the league with the worst defensive record, I feel it is time to ditch any pretence of a cautious approach. Fletcher may have been over priced, but his goals per game ratio is perfectly respectable, and McCarthy needs to bury any misgivings and start playing him regularly, with either Sylvain (my own preference), or Doyle as an orthodox strike partnership. Doyle might conceivably be employed in a deeper role, but SEB and Fletcher are out and out forwards, and at the very least should be given time to cement a partnership which would at least cause problems for Championship defences next season.
In fact, if Doyle could be used to raise money or as a makeweight in a swap deal by which we could obtain either a solid Centre Half or Full Back (or both), I wouldn’t have any qualms about him departing.
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I would like an explanation why were we so badly prepared for this match and yet the Wigan players looked sharp and fit.So the weather should not be an excuse.It was obvious that player after player was sluggish .Zubar’s touch was awful,Milijas in the first half was not interested.What preparation work was undertaken? Did they have Christmas day off? It was frankly a disgrace and very unprofessional.
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No 12. MaltaWolves summed it up perfectly fo me. You can’t blame the players, if we were playing our best available team in their correct positions, I genuinely don’t think we’d have anything to worry about. but with this bl00dyminded muppet in charge, we’re in big trouble.
What is his obsession with Stephen Ward??!..he may train hard, but he’s simply lacking in enough ability at this level. Stephen Fletcher on the other hand is absolute quality in my opinion form what i have seen this season(with the exception of when he was still suffering form the virus the other week).
I fear we’re going to lose quality players like Fletcher because they’re simply not getting games, despite their productivity when they do play.
This team will win against a lot of teams in this division IMO. Doyle as back up striker.
Fletcher SEB
Jarvis Miljas Henry Hunt
(JAN TRANS) Berra Craddock/Zubes Foley
Hennessy
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MICKS RIGHT, WE WERE UNLUCKY AND PLAYING WITH A SERERLY DEPLEATED SQUAD. THE WEATHER SPOILT OUR PREPERATIONS FOR THE GAME, AND WHICH SUBURB IN WIGAN WAS THE REF FROM?.
BEAT LIVERPOOL WEDNESDAY AND THINGS WILL LOOK MUCH BRIGHTER.
IN MICK WE TRUST .. BRING IT ON HODGSON.
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SACK MICK! we need CURBISHLEY, O’NEIL OR MARTIN JOL!
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Big Sam is the man..
The way mad Mick treated Elekobi by replacing him with Ward was a disgrace too..
Bye Mick and get rid before it’stoo late..
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nearly 40 million spent last two seasons and we still end up with Championship players and team yesterday…
Bye Mick…
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the neck of the man is outrageous, who does he think it is who picks the team?
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ITS CRIMBO YOU ARE AT THE FOOT OF THE PREM,AND YOU ARE GOING DOWN,LOL
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It´s really himself who isn´t good enough. I´m not an Allardyce fan but at least his teams play better crap than us!!
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Enough is Enough.
Let’s have Big Sam in and have it sorted
Before we face the Cr-Cr-Croppers at Sandwell!
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ME THINKS MICK WILL BE CLEANING OUT HIS DESK THIS WEEK,HOPE NOT THOUGH HE’S DOING A GREAT JOB
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All i need to say is forget the eary bird in feb/march because yet again i will not be renewing after 15 years, HAS THIS MANAGER HAS NOT GOT A CLUE AT THIS LEVEL.Clueless no ideas, pour so called football,id rather watch sunday mornig football for free than £400 a year for this
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The inability of the board to act and get a new manager in whilst there is still a chance of saving the season is shocking.
This is a results business, Mick McCarthy has had his chances, spent millions most of it wasted, his team selections and tactics have baffled most people this season.
It is now plain to see it is affecting the players who must be totally demoralised, it will be no points again this week and we will not move from the bottom of the league until we are relegated if we continue with Mick McCarthy.
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Simple Mick
Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go !Go ! Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone !Be Gone ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now ! Go Now !
P.S.
Please take Moxey and clipboard with you
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Can anyone give me the answer to these questions please?
1. Does anyone know if the company contracted to build our new stadium is owned by Steve Morgan?
If yes, then this exercise to build a new stadium is just to line Morgan’s pockets because we don’t need a 40000 seater stadium, we can’t fill a 29000 stadium.
2. What is the real reason why McCarthy is still manager, because I haven’t heard a valid reason yet? NO OTHER MANAGER would still be in charge at ANY CLUB AT ANY LEVEL with the same record as Mick.
3. Why do we NEVER EVER see Moxey or Morgan interviewed on TV?
4. Why are the fans being treated so disrespectfully?
In my opinion this situation stinks of corruption. The word FIFA comes in to mind. It’s all about MONEY and always will be.
I will defiantly not be renewing mine and my son’s season ticket if Mick McCarthy is still in charge. It is so embarrassing to watch and be associated with this shambles. I can’t believe the sheer arrogance and ignorance of the hierarchy in charge. Unfortunately, whatever is written on these pages makes no difference what so ever, it’s just a means of letting off steam, which is a good thing.
I read these pages every day and it’s been the same old story for months now. I think we just need to accept that it’s all political and money motivated and we as fans have no influence at all. As long as Morgan has our money up front via a season ticket then nothing will change. It’s really sad to admit that the only way the fans can make a difference is not to purchase tickets therefore money doesn’t come in to the club. That will hit home, but we all know (including Moxey and Morgan) that this will never happen because us as fans love our club and always will no matter what.
I really hope that there are big changes soon because I want to watch Premiership football next season, but I feel it’s too late now because I can’t see where our next win is coming from if we stick with this set up.
Anyway, that it from me now, a very disheartened wolves fan
CUM ON ME BABBIES
WOLVES 4 LIFE
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With all due respect to the groundstaff, why did we even try to get the match played? Wolves have several players injured, while Wigan will probably sell their best two players in January. And we rarely win on Boxing Day anyway! I think we would have beaten them in February!
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Times up I think for MM. I’m for Chris Hughton.
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Please mick just do us all a favour and go enough is enough you havent got a clue half time yesterday jarvo and fletch should have been on i know we have injuries but yet again too many players playing out of postion example foley should be right back and zubes should be playing centre back wasnt that where he was brought to play usa should be back in goal and why do we keep playing ward and kobi down the left both are nowhere near good enough for the premier cola league level at best on a good day im sorry you are a nice bloke but you have lost it this season for another bad example why the hell did u bother with getting bent in why sorry season ticket holder whos fed up and had enough with your rubbish signings and style of football or lack of it me thinks its time for big sam least we will have a chance with staying up
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Headline – ‘McCarthy: Wolves were not good enough’
More accurate headline: ‘McCarthy: Wolves ARE not good enough, nor am I’
Good God, I still can’t believe we’re discussing McCarthy and his future! Isn’t it OBVIOUS that he HAS to go?
Mr. Morgan, if you keep Mick on, you’ll not only send out the message that you’re way too soft, but lacking ANY ambition as well. Worse still, I confidently predict some nasty chants erupting at Molineux, soon. We don’t want or need those bad vibes. Just a shame we all know that Mick’s fire-proof, Steve. It certainly explains his arrogant attitude towards the fans.
Anyone else feeling slowly alienated, bit by bit, from the club we love?
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Agree No 26, providing he does not have ambitions to leave to manage England !
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Twas more fun in the championship, where we are inevitably going. Swapping Mick for Sam wouldn’t make any difference.
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That’s it…….Either MM goes this week or I will like thousand of others be supporting WBA
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wolves aint good enough, the strikes have to beat a man to score a goal , we should be doing through balls so they can on to them and finish it and we need some good players down here and last of all , mick must go hes not the man get a bloke down here thats knows the score that can attrack good players >>>>> martin oneil or sam alladyce, karl henry should be in the side at all hes a school boy player I WANT MICK OUT!!!!
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Seriously Mick, if you can´t motivate this team, in particular against a side like Wigan, how do you expect to motivate them at all? It wasn´t bad luck that lost us the game, it was bad, planning, not even poor tactics but clearly no tactics. No plan B, essentially, no idea.
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But McCarthy admitted his side were “not good enough” as they blew a big chance by losing 2-1 at home to relegation rivals Wigan…The head line should have read “mcarthy not good enough”…..you pick the team numpty so its down to you…Only a numpty would leave a 7 million pound striker on the bench and play a left back ( ward) in an attacking position. Then, move ward to left back, and substitue elokobi who was having a half decent game.Only a numpty makes these decisions.
“My confidence doesn’t get knocked as easily now and I’m not going to let one performance change it,” said the boss, who insisted he will go all-out to win at Liverpool on Wednesday.
“One performance”, “what games have you been watching, we have been rubbish for most of the season, thats why we are bottom of the league numpty.And now he’s saying that he will go all out to win at liverpool…so, didnt we go all out to win yesterday against wigan…The numpty baffles me….i give up..
Mr moxey, mr morgan and Mr numpty… your boys took a hell of a beating…..
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Resign Mick, please. We all have had enough now, go with your head held high, with Wolves still in the premier league, don’t let it get any worse.
You did a great job getting us this far. Please do not use this club for your personal reasons, your own pride, leave and let someone else have a go at turning us around.
Do the right thing Mick, and surrender your control, so that Wolves have a chance of staying up.
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GO GO GO GO GO NOW,AND YOU MORGAN/MOXEY. YOU
ALL ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.BUT PLAYER WHO YOU
DO NOT PLAY OR OUT OF POSTION. WE HAVE ALL
HAD ENOUGH NOW.
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The only way that numpty mcarthy will get removed from his position as manager, is to vote with your feet and don’t attend any more games until a change is made….”Lest be honest about it”.What has Morgan put into this club “£10″ thats all, Everything that has been spent has come from sky money, he hasnt spent a penny of his own, just be warned he isn’t the great wolves fan he makes out to be. “once a wolves fan always a Red”..!…..I have watched every home game this season as i did last year and the year before that. But enough is enough, i won’t be attending anymore until a change is made.
UTW
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Please RESIGN NOW! Cant the e&s do a poll on who thinks Mick should be sacked/resign or left in charge and send the results to the club? PLEASE GO NOW
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McCarthy: Wolves were not good enough
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO HANG HIMSELF WITH? HE SAID IT HIMSELF
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Been there.
For you who say you wont go down. Can you tell me the 3 worse teams than you?
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Its you who is not good enough mick get your p45 and go your not wanted by the wolves fans, you have brought players and you leave them on the bench, you play your favorites you have wasted money on players and not improved the team the players have lost their way you chop and change when the mood takes you, you never know your best side wolves fans knew 18 months ago about our back four THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH, and you have done nothing I watched match of the day and the game yesterday was an utter joke, we are the worst side letting in 38 goals in 18/19 games which is regaltion form get your blinkers off mick and get out now and bring in o’neill or big sam who will do a better job than you
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18 Is 100% possession in your own penalty box better than 50/50 possession in your opponents?
Think about what you’re saying mate.
To question the manager on one tiny cycle of play in one game is like filing for a divorce because the wife has bought the wrong corn flakes.
Moaners one and all
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the only way wolves are going to recover this season and seasons beyond is to sack the clipboard man ,yes mr connor!!! he has been training wolves players back to the days of when colin lee was in charge !!! its time mr morgan you change the coaching staff ,before the season is over for us,otherwise your dream of a new 50,000 stadium will turn into a 5,000 crowd per game .what would prefer to see mr morgan ?
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MINES A PINT,
I am in total sympathy with you, as I suspect you are (with) Molly New. Never the less, what is to be done about this unholy mess the 3M´s have got us into?
Can we mount some fan pressure? It doesn´t seem that even if we did it would amount to much, following the JM statement that MM is the one to take us forward. It would therefore seem very clear to me that the 3rd M in the equation, doesn´t know (football wise) what is forward and what is backward. This of course fits perfectly for he is of course SM.
Best thing we can do is not buy a season ticket next season. Clearly the only things these M´s feel is what they´ve got in their pockets.
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Wolves web site: Kevin Foley: “We’ve had our setbacks but always come back with good results”. Unfortunately, not good enough, Kevin.
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dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd Its the Muppet Show tonight!!!!!
Are you listening Moxey/Morgan or are you the two old geezers Statler/Waldorf who just sit up in the balcony?
This was one of the worst games i have ever seen (and i’ve seen some rubbish in 32 years).
The worst thing about it is that Wigan were head and shoulders above us and i keep looking for some insperation but i am failing.
We will be relegated by the time we play Albion away for me because if you are not going to do the right thing and sack Muppet Mick then you deserve what you get. Please don’t give him money in the transfer window you can see how good he spent the last lot.
You might as well knock the North Bank down Morgan because you won’t even fill three sides next year in the Fizzy Pop league.
Just one note to end on how is it that Foley has been fantastic at right back all season but as soon as Zubar comes back he gets pushed out into Midfield….Zubar aint Ashley Cole infact he isn’t as good as people make out (check out how many goals have come from right back since Zubar has been back).
Doomed!!!!!!!!!
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You fans have been calling for years for some
decent defenders was a bit envious when you signed Fletcher but didnt play him preffering
Doyle who works hard but dosent score MM selects team not to lose is he afraid defence
not good enough Doyle should be used midfield
and play Fletcher hes a proven scorer. Youve
shown enough endeavour just need some PL defenders not championship journeymen.
Megson might save you we ground out many 1-0s
you will recall.
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Record as a Premiership manager (inc Sunderland)
P 84
W 15
D 18
L 51
F 71
A 139
Points 63
Win record = 17.8%
Draws = 21.4%
Lost = 60.7%
Points average = 0.25% per game
Goals per game = 0.84%
Goals against per game = 1.65%
When you isolate the statistics, taking the Sunderland figures out of the equation it reads marginally better:
P 56
W 13 (23%)
D 14 (25%)
L 29 (52%)
F 51 (0.91%)
A 89 (1.59%)
Points 53 (0.90%)
The case speaks for itself!!!
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Last season, like the rest of us, MM quickly realised we were not strong enough at the back to play 4-4-2. So we had to revert to 4-5-1. It worked, well done Mick.
So learning from our first season, you would assume signing a quality centre half to help Craddock and co. would be his top priority??
But no, he signs Fletcher for £7 million, knowing we have had to play with one up front all season.
So, by his own judgement, he buys Molyoko from a relegated team and a pretty much unknown waste of space left back to stiffen the defence! Both have proved shambolic signings.
And so here we are once again. Fletcher, like SEB last season, is victim to the ‘can’t trust the defence, let’s fill the midfield strategy’
Genius Mick!
Not signing a quality centre half has caused havoc.
£7mil on an established Premiership centre half, should of been our first priority. It would of had us mid table and would of released the talents of Fletcher, Doyle, Hunt and Jarvis alike.
Massive schoolboy error Mick.
Ive always had confidence in you, but with your signings, you have failed. (Im not going to mention tlast seasons Halford/Mienhoffer long throw stratagy that fell at the first hurdle)
For me we should break the door down for O’Neil and sign Curtis Davis without delay.
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Imv I dont believe that Moxey will want MM out whatever happens! So theres no point bleating on about something that we have no control over
The bigger picture to Moxey is that MM has the keys and reigns to the club for as long as he wants the job – due to the belief that Moxey and Morgan have that MM will consistantly achieve promotion from the Chumpionship and MM is proven to be very good at getting clubs out of the Chumpionship on a shoe string budget!
As much as I dont like seeing the position that we are in and I dont believe MM has the capacity to achieve anymore than relegation battles in the Prem/ Relegation and promotion from the Chumpionship – short term is as much value that I can see MM has to offer
Big Sam Allardyce changed Bolton into a stable Prem club and was strangely sacked by Blackburns new owners and would imv be a far better bet than MM
But again, I dont believe that with our current CEO – that Mr Morgan will be pursuaded to let go of MM as I believe that Moxey prefers a very agreeable manager who wont make any waves and accept the ‘cheaper’ options dressed up as ‘young and hungry’ even the older players
The reality imv is that I suspect that the cheaper option players we pursue (salary etc) are based on how much of the clubs budget Moxey will allow MM to have and the more Moxey saves the bigger his bonus! No proof but I suspect/ suggest this has alot to do with it!
If we are to establish ourselves in the Prem Morgan imv would be far better seeking a CEO who has the vision of improving the footballing side of the club and the commercial side at the same time
Jez ‘Job done’ Moxey has imv has his own agenda first and the ‘young and hungry’ must be a God send – not to mention a very agreeable manager in MM
Just to put this thought out there to fellow Wolves fans – If we are really focussed on ‘young and hungry’ at Wolves – when was the last time a home grown player was brought through and how many of these players has MM consistantly used?
Fact is we buy in cheap and cheerfull and discard home grown Yet many of you out there bang on about this ‘young and hungry’ bs and even get sucked in by Mssr Moxey’s comments about not bankrupting the club
Ask yourselves this – Would 5 Prem proven players signed up for a season How would that bankrupt the club??? Blues are rumoured to be going in to loan Robbie Keane but we bleat on about his wages etc etc
Simply put – We have no ambition we want to do everything on a shoe string and occasssionally sign a player like Fletcher and Doyle to placate the fans whilst the rest of the team is filled with make shift Championship players that would get into a mid table Chumpionship team – On a personal note MM wouldnt know what to do with Prem Proven Quality and would more than likely wind them up with his lack of man management
My prediction is a Yo Yo club at best under MM with some highs and many lows under MM TC and Moxey combo
We hope for far far better
Hope you all had a great Christmas and look forward to a better New Year
Up the Wolves!
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Not good enough eh! Well whose fault is that.
Are Ward, Elokobi, Berra, Stearman, really good enough to play at the top level? I don’t think so. We all knew that last season. So what did MM do? Buy a £6.5 million bench warmer. A left back be wouldn’t play who had a track record of being homesick. A untried centre half.
I think it is MM who is not good enough. The players try hard (although yesterdays performance was dire, second to everything)but are not goo enough.
Starting 11 was poor. What really winds me up is that he must watch a different game and never makes proactive substitutions. Why? because I do not think he really understands the game. He calls us muppets. Players who have played at the highest level do not necessarily make good managers. Equally, managers and pundits who have not played at the top level can still understand the game. Otherwise Mr Wenger wouldn’t be a top level manager.
Back to his substitutions, or lack of them. It was evident after 10 minutes that we were not competing in midfield. Milijas was not up for it and Foley is an average fullback. So what does he do? Nothing. Then he decides to take off Edwardes to bring on Jarvis. Surely it would have been better to take of Foley or Milijas and push Edwardes into the centre (and I’m no Edwardes fan, but at least 6 other players were playing worse. Then he takes off Elokobi to put on Fletcher. Why wait until the 70th minute as we had been losing for a very long time. Why take off Elokobi and not Ward.
I’ll tell you why. He has his favourites, doesn’t understand tactics and is not good enough.
I fear that nothing will be done. We will get relegated and spend another 10 years in the Championship. I don’t care for Alardyce, even though he has an okay rep. He wont come to Wolves because the Board will not back him with any funds. Anyone who thinks O’Neil will come is delusional. Who does that leave? Someone cheap, mark my words. The owner and Board are not ambitious. I applaud their attitude to keeping us in a relatively good financial position but if we want quality players then we ultimately have to pay the market value. Look at Stoke and Birmingham. They take players that would do us a good job but their wages scare us.
Everyone better get ready for a long stint in Championship.
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bla bla bla. its the same old drivel mccarthy pumps out week in week out. it dont take a rocket scientist to work out that YOU mick are the main reason we are in the position we are with your magical team selection week in week out. have,nt you worked it out yet? jarvis,fletcher jones on the bench.why? YOU have brought these players to make wolves a better team and yet you play the CHAMPIONSHIP players i.e. stearman(awful),elokobi(awful), edwards(awful) i could go on. i could play better my self. you are making a rod for your own back and mark my words mad mick the gold & black army have lost faith in you and i think after the liverpool & west ham game if we get no points out of these 2 games so will the board . work it out mick newcastle sack hughton who did an amazing job there also blackburn sack big sam who also did a great job there. like i said it dont take a rocket scientist does it. you WILL be the next manager in the premier leauge to get the boot unless liverpool & west ham dont turn up. so lets hope for your sake and your employment at wolverhampton wanderers they dont or its ta ta mick. ive got to be honest if wolves do get any kind of result at either of the 2 games coming up then mad mick will be talking about europe ha ha. i agree with no.1 broken record comes to mind. UTW.
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We’re doomed aren’t we. Who would want to join us? Lescott, Keane, don’t make me laugh. Why would we want Sidwell, ace underachiever and the bloke who broke Guedioura’s leg!!!
I can’t see where we are going with our team of triers, where is the skill, someone at the back who doesn’t always want to play the easy ball. Oh yes and I quite agree what team punts the ball to the goalie on kick off?
We may not be talented but why are we not making tackles and challenging. Wigan are not a physical team but they were in our faces every second.
We couldn’t play 442 and now we can with Ward over Fletcher as a striker.
Arrrgggghhhh………..
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Sorry Mick, Big Sam would at least have more chance of keeping us up. All this weird changing positions of players etc……… has now seen us bottom of the table. No excuses.
Steve Morgan, are you running this club or not?? We hardly hear anything from you and surely if you have bought a football club you have an interest what happens on the field?? Are you even watching the games?? If so do you sit there and agree and have faith in the managers decisions, bearing mind he spent £7 million on a player he……….hardly ever plays. If you give him more money in January instead of appointing a manager like Big Sam and give him the funds instead, MORE FOOL YOU!!!
Its not show friends its show business Steve, whether you get on personally with a manager behind the scenes matters not. Its results.
There are a load of season ticket renewals at stake here. I think what Mick has done for Wolves is great. There is a limit to everyones skill set however and his level is not Premiership. It can’t be.
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thanks for greg halford hes been a quality player for us and hope we get him long term at fratton park, but lets just say he mite be playing against u lot next season well done MM great track record of getting teams relegated, enjoy the rest of the season wolves fans make the most of the prem
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One true attacker at home against Wigan, says it all. MM has sadly no solution to our woeful position and woeful team except to sadly take every wrong option possible. I am sure he is a good man but at this level he has no answers. The next question will changing the manager help? It is debateable if it will, as sadly the new manager will inherit the same players. What may happen however is that the new manager may play our best players in theire rightful positions and who knows…. surely this is not rocket science and hopefully against Liverpool MM will play a team that will have a chance of playing and winning with a positive team spirit and selection. Then again pigs may fly!
O’Neil, Alladyse to be honest I am not sure. Gus Poyet would be my choice
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there’s only one expenation of wolves perforance by so called prem players
GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESSGUTLESS,GUTLEES,GUTLESS,GUTLESS, AMETEUR & GULESS & WE ARE SICK OF THEM LETTING US DOWN
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Don’t know if it was the poor showing or the perishing cold but I was GUTTED by the performance. I have been a supporter for 49 years and thought I was immune from disappointment like this but I still feel numb 24 hours later. We were so poor. Clueless and devoid of quality. Losing so badly to relegation rivals. I guess I am trying not to admit to myself we look like going down. This has to be our lowest point or we will. No excuses – injuries, new signings having little or no impact. No change of Managers either. This simply is not an option. This is McCarthy’s team, we have to see this through WITH him. You don’t remain a Manager for 500 games if you are useless. Just remind yourself what Mick has created here. Back him, don’t sack him! We need to get players back from injury and bring in new signings with a PROVEN record in the Premier League. Untried foreigners are too much of a gamble. We desperately need some leaders and winners. I did not boo nor leave early and I will not do this. I hope our fans now get right behind the boys. The crowd were served up rubbish yesterday but made matters worse by moans and groans when things went wrong. I must say this was the poorest showing in recent years. Players, you owe us something special. Please – no gallant losers at Anfeild tomorrow. You are now playing for the shirt and the respect of us fans. As Black Country folks we expect some guts from our team. Time to step up and show some serious character, players!
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Sorry Mick, save your excuses for Morgan cos he´s the ONLY person who will listen now….
PLEASE, do the right thing and resign before the fans turn nasty….
… Me along with every Wolves fan i speak to are FED UP with your shocking team picks and out of date tactics
Take all your rubbish staff with you too !
GIVE THE FAN´S BACK THERE CLUB, WE DONT WANT YOU IN CHARGE OF WOLVES ANY LONGER
Morgan – grow a pair
Oh and take WARDINIHO with you cos he would never get into the team with any PREMIERSHIP manager in charge.
go, just go, id rather Wolves take a chance on BULLY as manager than YOU !
FOR XMASS I WISHED FOR
BIG SAM IN CHARGE READY FOR THE BLACK COUNTRY DERBY, WITH A DECENT AMOUNT OF MONEY TO SPEND AND OUR PATHETIC WAGE STRUCTURE BROKE TO BRING IN KEANE & JOL
But to be honest, Scrouge Moxey is there, he loves Mick cos he dont have any ambition to break the wage structure, which mean BIG FAT BONUS FOR BIG FAT CONTROLLER
I suggest Wolves fans take back there club by demonstrating outside if we loose our next home match….
MICK OUT
CLIPBOARD OUT
DALEY OUT
AND THAT USELESS GK COACH
IN
BIG SAM
Bobby Mimms
keane
Jol
forget going for o´niel and wheater, there championship players and were NOT THERE YET !
I mean come on, we missed out on Sidwell to rivals, keane will end up at a midlands club (not wolves) and we will get hammered by them lot…. THATS ALL TO LOOK FORWARD TO WITH THIS STUPID OLD MANAGER IN CHARGE
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I like Mick; I believe him to be genuine and hard working, just like his team; lets remember how bad it was watching Hoddle’s Wolves.
Mick has had three good seasons since he took over but he appears to have an inability to buy defenders and this defence is going to get us relegated. Its no good Mick blaming the defence; he bought them and they are not good enough!
Mick has done a good job but this is the worst premier league defence since Sunderland got relegated!!
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Nice lads who ‘put in a shift’ are not keeping us in this division!! Stephen Ward, George Elokobi and Richard Stearman are simply not good enough at this level and never will be, Elokobi is not a footballer, his distribution, reading of the game and positional play are poor to say the least – we could have got Shorey at the start of the season for £1M, but he went to Albion instead. Leaving Mick in the job for the January transfer window will be a bad idea. We need 5 first team players in January, not players who will ‘add’ to the squad – its desperate times at our great club, Mick you have taken us as far as you can, thanks for everything, but time to go now, and PLEASE take Terry Connor and his clipboard with you!!!
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Watching this debacle is like watching the death throes of someone you hold dear.
This is not football, it is just the humiliation of our football club.
Mr Morgan has to put an end to the agony and replace McCarthy with somebody who might inspire a “great escape” of our own.
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I think / I hope / I hope so so Much he will be sacked Thursday morning!
Come on Liverpool put the final nail in this clown coffin, yes it’s got that bad under mcclueless I want another team to beat us in a way! I expect Steve Morgan also feels the same as we are playing his beloved Liverpool.
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cannot believe no news coming out of wolverhampton maybe mr morgan dont work bank hols also please take that prat terry connor with you
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(18).
G&B,
The ball being played back to the keeper to boot upfield, is called HOOFBALL. Glad to educate you. JACK the HAT.
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Seriously considering cancelling my next planned journey to Molineux (800-mile round trip which I do approximately five times per season at an average cost of £350 per go.
To say that the Wolves are in a precarious position is putting it seriously mildly. Of course, according to MM, I am just another ‘numpty’ who hasn’t got a clue about the game of football .
Who’s the numpty now pal?
Come on SM and JM, show a bit of respect for your fans and make a move NOW for a manager who can get the team motivated to play good soccer in their proper positions. Two or three victories would make a massive difference.
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Go now Mick, You are rubbish and do no know how to change things. We are going nowhere fast!!
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cannot possibly let him loose with any more money his record is abysmal in seasons 2009 and 2010 then plays all his mediocre championship side. his list is endless i dont need to name them
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I could give you 10 names now who wont be renewing there tickets next year if MM remains in charge! i warned you previously morgan your losing fans & fast! there are peeps who have been attending for 30 odd years who are giving up! doesn’t this tell you something??
Its not a case of being fickle or loyal it IS a fact of not wanting to be continually MUGGED OFF by the club! yes the numpty brigade will still attend as there brains cannot work out how they are being treated!
A total lack of respect is shown by MM to fans on frequent occasions!
A very high ticket price for watching such average players & tactics when quality is left out!
An arrogant stubborness shown by a manager that is so clearly clueless at this level (backed by his near 100 games in prem) offically worst manager in prem history! So you have got to ask … where has the arrogance come from?
The days when you can say and do anything to us loyal fans has gone! your losing fans & fast! act now MORGAN or your dream of stadium etc will well n truly be up in smoke as 15k attendances in the electric league is not gonna finance nowt!
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big sam or martin o’neil for me we need to sort it now
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no mick….we are down, and that comes from one of the most optimistic wolves fans you’ll meet, i’ve admitted defeat cos i believe you cannot take us forward any further, you did a top job getting us there and we’llbe forever grateful. we wont sell in summer and we’ll have a damn good side for a new manager to develop further
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Ohh Please,sack this ridiculous manager. He is an embarassement to the City of Wolverhampton.
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You know what? I don’t care anymore. The Chairman obviously doesn’t care, the chief executive doesn’t care, the manager is living in cloud cuckoo land, so why the hell should I care?
Maybe it’s time we showed the same contempt for the club as they show to us fans.
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Its difficult to know where the next win is going to come from. It must be time for McCarthy to start playing players in their rightful position.My starting eleven against Liverpool, Hennessey, Foley (right back) Zuber (central defender) Berra,Elokobi, Jones, Mijilas, Hunt, Jarvis, Fletcher, Ebanks-Blake. 4-4-2.
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Mick when you were at Sunderland you Complained about not having money for players. Well you have had enough at Wolves. So when we lose its never yours or the players fault.So let me tell you your management is not good enough. MR MORGAN PLEASE SORT IT OUT.
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I realise now why such a great player like Roy Keane who loves his country so much would walk out his team mates during the biggest sporting event the world has ! Because he had to put up with listening to this idiot when he was use to the advise of Sir alex go Mick go back to Barnsley and open a Cake shop
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Wolves were not good enough, because the manager waS NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
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Wolves were not good enough because the manager was not good enough!
No arguments, not even from McCarthy!
Now we need to move on with a new inspirational manager to inspire us to move on to the next stage that sees the club saved from the disaster of a McCarthy “inspired” failure.
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Who-ever is posting in my name, please go away and create your own identity.
The real Norske Wulf.
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Just found this quote from sam alardyce in 2001 on getting bolton promoted to the prem….
“Having signed a ten-year contract it would have to be after that. As much as I liked Wolves as a boy and it was a childhood dream to play and perhaps manage for the club, I’ve come to Bolton and this is where I want to stay.”
CHILDHOOD DREAM TO MANAGE WOLVES
maybe big sam could be an answer!?!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/sports_talk/forum/1360531.stm
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wrong mick wolves ARENT good enough not wernt good enough and your to blame, and the only way isnt up as youll find out in may.
happy new year
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Come on Mick cant you see a pattern with your team. They are never “good enough” ” to WIN the crucial big games that really decide a season. It was the same against Wigan,pompey,hull,brum last season,but we stayed up because we were lucky and did a little better than the others who went down.
This season against Blackpool,Blackburn,Wigan, Newcastle, west ham, fulham the teams around us we have NOT been “Good enough” to beat any of these teams.
The league doesnt lie, look at the 10 teams above us and you will see we have only managed to beat Brum.
Even Andy Gray is saying we will struggle to stay up.
I think Mr Morgan needs to make a decision on whether we stick or twist and get a new man in
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McCarthy…I’m sick to death of your tripe. Just clear off, and clear off NOW
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Got to about post 9 on this board and gave up, mick looks like all the fans including me have turned against you, you had your chance in the top flight with us and blew 30mill on championship players. Please leave our fb club alone, i have been a season ticket holder 5yrs, stopped going after first few home games this season. We are going bkward as a club, never been same without kightly. Doubt ill go another game, i hate the board, staff, coachs and the way the club is being run. Cant wait till the 3m’s are gone, then i might start going again even if we are in the coca cola league, least we’d have no m’s and have our club back. Its not just mick thats messed the club up its no ambition moxey and morgan! Take a bow, gonna get hostile morgan mark my words, the fans are gonna get very vocal at the games and we’ll all turn on you.
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Post 21 spot on its an insult and us true fans posting our opinions get called numpties for it, not sure i’ll go another game this season even if we start winning and playing like a football team. i cant stand how the club is being run, we are an embarrassment. Good luck to jarvis when he leaves end of season, the only player in gold and black whos earned the right to wear the shirt, gd luck to him, rest of squad has been dire thanks to mick playing everyone out of place on a consistent basis
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to all you idiots who have said in the past McCarthy is great wake up what planet are you on?? we want McCarthy out we want McCarthy out the club is here for life managers come & go and sooner the better in his case
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I too am bewildered by the fact that MM continually plays his best players out of position.
Please Morgan sack him now/ move him upstairs he has no idea on tactics and insults fans every time he opens his mouth. This is not a good marketing ploy if you are seeking to expand the ground and increase revenue.
I am very grateful to MM for taking us to the Premiership, but there is no room for sentiment in football.
Please come in Martin O Neill or failing that Big Sam.
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wolves player of the year matt jarvis,mad mick obviously dosent think so he cant make the starting line up , MUPPET ?
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Love Mick as a man so Don’t like the personal attacks on him
I think Alladice would be the best man to keep us up though assuming
That he would take the job if not keep Mick
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Heard that mccarthy will get the sack after liverpool game and o`neill will be appointed.
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I actually question Morgan and Moxey as much as Mick. We are rock bottom, money wasted everywhere……. And they are happy with it…… Seems daft. Appoint big Sam now so he can spend in January. Or is that too logical…..???
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So MM again comes up with the same old claptrap that the side were not good enough, we numties are fully aware of that, but who picks the team, who trains the team, who works out the tactics, and who plays players out of postion you do Mick you big NUMBTY.
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Great news mcarthy @ 9/1 to get the sack !!
Now Sean O’Discoll have turned down sheff. utd.
He will be at wolves for the Blackpool game.
We will see good footy from now on !!!!
Happy days are here again !!!
Get money on this week and have a few beers !!
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Everything said about MM. Great man but now a change is needed (inc backroom staff). However,DO NOT start a campaign to get Big Sam!!!Negative tactics, long ball etc. I would not pay to see that, just ask Newcastle, Blackburn and even Bolton fans (I bet they prefer Owen Coyle). Yes, he may be short term fix but that is not the answer. We need a manager who can attract top players (added to the good players we already have and academy boys)(especially defenders) and build a good entertaining side. Names such as Rudd Hullit, Zola with Ray Wilkins or Chris Houghton as a No2, others; Rafa Benitez, Martin O Neil. Come on Mr.Morgan shows your true ambitions.
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Morgan you have made our club a laghing stock and all the money people think you have put in aint true, i can see why liverpool did not want you so why dont you just bugger off and take you bloody idiots with you.
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Ok, my feelings are as follows:
Morgan – He’s not a wolves fan he’s a Liverpool fan. Ok, credit he has bought the Wolves. But he has one eye on a commercial deal here, i.e the re-development of the ground and a handsome profit on a sale at the end of it. Let’s be honest if this club was his beloved Liverpool then McCarthy would have gone. However, he clearly feels that Wolves have found their level as a struggling premiership club.
Moxey – An accountant he does a great job balancing the books but knows little of what goes on , on the field. His blind loyalty is frankly annoying. Read his program notes on Sunday with some dis-belief.
Mad Mick – Completely and utterly out of his depth in this division.
So, where does this leave us?
Relegation of course, with a handsome profit in the bank, little in the way of debt and the opportunity to get promoted back to the premiership in the next couple of years with the same man at the helm.
My advice is simple, don’t renew your early bird. Im not , I don’t want these people thinking that I support the way the club is run in any shape or form.
I don’t want to do a portsmouth, but I would like to see some ambition, something Morgan clearly doesn’t share with me.
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No chance of staying up unless Mick is sacked now so a new manager can use the window. How many points will we get from our next 6 games – Liverpool, West Ham, Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool again & Bolton? 2 maybe? That won’t even take us off bottom.
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70. in response,….you will find we do this everytime we kick off,..and just in case you have never ever seen a football match we kick off smack bang in the middle of the pitch on the big white spot not the penalty area so thats where we start with 100% possession…so please make sure you know what your actually saying before you comment!
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where has my comment gone to,it was at number 68 this morn,29 dec
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