West Brom's Alan Irvine holds talks with want-away duo George Thorne and Craig Dawson

Alan Irvine has held face-to-face talks with want-away duo George Thorne and Craig Dawson to convince both they are in his Premier League plans.

Head coach Alan Irvine and co-assistant head coach Keith Downing at training today
Head coach Alan Irvine and co-assistant head coach Keith Downing

But the Baggies head coach has not slammed the door shut on a move for the young Baggies duo who have had transfer requests rejected this summer.

Thorne remains a target for Championship outfit Derby County where he made a big impression on loan during their thwarted promotion push last season.

And England Under 21 defender Dawson is a target for promoted Burnley – but is also a player who has had a transfer request turned down.

Albion are still hunting signings to beef up a squad depleted by a clear-out at the end of last season and the chance for first team football for both Thorne and Dawson has never been more promising.

Irvine has underlined that point by saying: “George and Craig are very much players in my thoughts. I had long discussions with both of them and they were good, amicable talks. They know the situation and have continued to work hard in training.”

Meanwhile Albion are named as one of the clubs showing an interest in 19-year-old Conference striker Kaiyne Woolery from Tamworth. Woolery has twice been on trial at Burnley but Tamworth manager Dake Belford said: “There’s been interest from West Brom, too.”

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Comments for: "West Brom's Alan Irvine holds talks with want-away duo George Thorne and Craig Dawson"


Reading more around the Woolery reports, I'd be suprised if this is something we are pursuing. Our interest sounded historic, and it seems very likely that the lad wants to be at Burnley.

I hear also that Newcastle are "confident" they can land Riviere. I'm not sure whether we are pursuing this one as actively as the media have made out - but more reports are coming out about us speaking to him, and if he is a target then he is under contract and we are going to have to make an attractive offer. That's just the way of things. Signings have to make financial sense, naturally, and we've seen what can happen when clubs shell out too much for too little quality, but I wouldn't want to see any desired targets going elsewhere because we aren't prepared to pay out against our, usually quite frugal, valuations.

The Real Bully Hoo.

I think that Craig Dawson going to Burnley is probably being fair to the lad providing they're willing to pay what he's worth. I'd be sorry to see him go as he seems a good lad and a proper dedicated professional. I don't think he'll ever be a first team regular though although I've been wrong many times.

Thorne is another kettle of fish. Looks to have the talent but obvious questions over his attitude. The one thing I'm certain of is that no way should he go to Derby unless they cough up a hell of a lot of money, if at all.


At times like this, the 'transfer window' becomes a pain in the butt. They get about 2 or 3 weeks to show their stuff IF they get picked.


Suppose the Wally with the Brolly had been asked to be our coach and taken it on.

Would Thorne then have wanted to stay ?


The above E&S report is not as informative as the Brum Mail one regarding Thorne & Dawson. I think they have picked out little bits here and there, but they have added this piece of speculation about Kaiyne Woolery. What possible interest could we have in an untried 19 year old Conference player, except just to beef up the U21 side.

We badly need a striker with the ability to hit the back of the net more often than the ones we have already. It was inevitable that Newcastle would show interest in Riviere, with their liking of all things French, and if it came to a bidding war we have no chance.

If any reports are true and Riviere does go elsewhere, I suppose we will revert to Nakoulma, who was also mentioned previously.

No point speculating, just wait and see what happens.


The Real Bully Hoo.

Well he is the French Riviere.



Irvine's spoke to them and told them they are in his thoughts.....so really that's the end of it then. They stay until someone offers the right amount of money and it's accepted. Of the 2 Thorne is the on I definitely keep....but Dawson could get his chance pre-season and grasp it with both hands so.......who knows??

As for the lad from Tamworth....worth a look imo. Many a good player has emerged from non-league and taken to the top flight with no real difficulty....Regis being one and Ian Wright being another....and Lee Hughes scored for fun when he first arrived from kiddy so.....again who know's??




Irvine sacked by October,does WBA stand for wont buy anyone?


Wolves down by December


Speaking as someone who watches both Baggies and Tamworth, Woolery was out on loan for most of last season. He was given a chance near the end of the season and looked promising, but he is nowhere near ready for the Premier League! Would be surprised if there's much truth in this story.


AI should take em in the office, and say "HI im the gaffer, " Give em a Glasgow kiss each, and say Right gents , get up and ill see u in training in 5 mins , end off. What u reckon Andy H


Hi mate,

I'm all for the power of persuasion...have a word.......do as you're told....etc.etc.....

they've been told they are in his thoughts and I would imagine that any pro at the point would think that they have a point to prove and go for it.

That said........every now and again mate........I'm sure the PC brigade would love that!! Just a good rollicking and tell them to bleeding go and prove themselves....that'll do from me...




--and the club have to be just as firm with Derby and any other clubs who come in for both players. Unless they are for offers we just cannot refuse.