Blog: West Brom in Europe is a pipe dream
West Brom beating Swansea gave fans new hope of a European spot, only to be all but dashed by the FA Cup draw 24 hours later, writes blogger Warren Stephens.
It would now appear that European qualification will be awarded to only the top five finishers in the Premier League, along with Capital One Cup winners Swansea and one of Millwall and Wigan Athletic, as an FA Cup finalist.
That would leave West Brom the unenviable and unlikely task of trying to overhaul Arsenal and Liverpool for fifth spot in order to qualify.
I, personally, feel a little bit disappointed about that. As an Albion supporter born in 1981, I was hallowed with tales of Red Star Belgrade and Valencia.
But trying to work out if three weeks’ dinner money would pay the coach fare to Salernitana in the Anglo-Italian Cup and a couple of pre-season trips are the closest I have come to experiencing the club in Europe.
I have heard a few fans suggest that Albion would be better off without it, there’s certainly an argument that teams who have competed in the Europa League invariably suffer a dip in league form.
However, I think if you give up on adventure in favour of finishing nth in the Premier League every year, then what is the point?
Perhaps a toxic by-product of competing in the greed league is that there really isn’t that much else anybody outside the top four or five teams can aim for, a different argument for another day perhaps.
I should make a point of saying this is no way an expression of disgruntlement, Albion and Europe were two words I never thought I would hear in the same sentence, once upon a time.
It just seems a shame that a more colourful reward might not await the club after what’s been an immense effort over the course of the season.
Off the pitch and Albion this week revealed a price freeze on season ticket prices for the forthcoming season. I, personally, see that as a wise move by the club and hopefully one which draws a few more supporters back.
One of the big disappointments for me this season has been that we’ve not sold out more games home and away despite the fantastic efforts of the players.
I remember playing Stoke in the old Third Division at home and having a crowd of just under 30,000, similarly the massive numbers we took to Portsmouth on the final day of the 1993-94 season when the football witnessed was desperate compared to what we see now.
In part the suffering attendances, certainly in relation to what you’d expect to see given the success we have enjoyed since, is understandable.
Football is a much more expensive commodity than it used to be, there are a lot of people out of work or on reduced hours.
Crucially, in my view, all Albion games are also widely accessible on internet streams and in pubs across the region.
There’s been talk of a maximum price being applied on Premier League tickets. I would, personally, like to see this, as any reduction in ticket prices needs to be applied across the board.
I think for a lot of Premier League clubs, gate receipts don’t represent a hugely significant percentage of their turnover. Certainly, in Albion’s case, TV money is worth a whole lot more.
Would it financially cripple clubs if they were forced to halve their ticket prices? Probably not.
The success in the Champions League of the German clubs- where ticket prices are significantly lower than in England- certainly suggests that gate receipts and success are not entirely correlated.
Manchester City are charging £24 for away supporters under 16 to get into our game at the Etihad Stadium in a few weeks, the same ticket in the home end is £11.
There might be an argument that City might try and balance the books with the onset of FFFP on the horizon.
But if you consider that aligning the prices in the away end to those in the home end - adult and junior - would cost City around five weeks wages for Carlos Tevez over the course of a season, then it’s difficult not to be profoundly sickened by it.
Onto Saturday’s game and it’s that lot from Staffordshire again. No not that lot, the other lot- Stoke. Ever since the days of Nigel Gleghorn, Vince Overson and Mark Stein, I have dreaded this game.
Although in recent seasons, we have looked far more likely to beat them away than we have at home.
Perhaps on their own ground, there’s more of an onus on Stoke to play further up the pitch and open up than there is when they traditionally stop us from playing when they come to The Hawthorns, something which is much more likely to suit us.
They are on a horrendous run at the moment and I certainly don’t feel as apprehensive as I have in recent seasons. If we start well and get in front, then who knows?
Certainly a repeat of last year’s fantastic last-gasp winner would be well received. Come on you Baggies!
Comments for: "Blog: West Brom in Europe is a pipe dream"
BAGGII 08
glad we can't qualify for europe to far for us to go within the squad we have, it would ruin the nice basis we have within the squad to improve at a steady rate
CantelloRocket 78
Baggii 08,
European games are nice to have, but as you say, 'improvement at a steady rate' has been JP's aim in recent years, so let's concentrate on making ourselves stronger first.
The final run-in looks quite tough, but it's important we continue to give 100 per cent with our strongest lineups until the end of the season.
They say success breeds success, and as SC says, it's down to what we achieve-
1) a high finish attracts the attention of quality players looking to be part of a good premiership club,
2) a strong finish leaves the staff and playing squad feeling positive throughout the summer,and
3) a high finish brings bigger financial rewards for a club from the premier league cash pot.
So if Ben keeps savin' em
GMac and Jonas keep a strong rearguard,
Yousouff and Claudio keep controlling the middle,
and Romelu keeps bangin' in those goals,
we'll be doin' fine,
up there on cloud nine........!!!
Mboy
I agree that (disappointingly) we are not going to qualify for Europe. Being as we are safe from relegation and Lukaku will not be with us next season, the time is right to see if other members of the squad are up to Premiership football. We should start planning for next season NOW, that's why I wouldn't play Lukaku again this season as Steve Clarke has told us he's going!!
CantelloRocket 78
Mboy-
you've now clearly stated to us all that-
'Lukaku will NOT be with us next season, Steve Clarke has TOLD us he's going'-
well in the video, SC didn't rule out the possibility that Romelu will be here next term, and the latest story on here said Steve's gonna talk to Chelsea about Lukaku at the end of the season-
so is it possible that for once in your life you'll get off that very high horse and admit you got something WRONG???
Mboy
We'll see!
Also if you are going to use quotation marks, can you please quote me correctly, word for word, and not put your interpretation on my words? Comprendez?
Many thanks.
CantelloRocket 78
Mboy-
evasive, picky, sarcastic and childish-
and as I expected, you have no intention of admitting you might be wrong on any issue.
The rest of us know it takes a 'big' man to accept the truth and show some humility, obviously something you're not familiar with.
Pitiful.
Mboy
As I've said above, we'll see if I'm wrong or not. Comprendez wee man?
Mboy
Can I also direct you to the "Transfer Rumours - Mar 15" article, where Steve Clarke makes the position quite clear?
CantelloRocket 78
Mboy-
so you get on your 'high horse' and direct me to the 'transfer rumours' page, where you say-
'Steve Clarke makes the position quite clear'-
That'll teach Cantello to question my supreme opinion, right?
Well, soft lad, you obviously didn't read very closely-
it says above the rumours-
'we've scoured the Internet for gossip, and we're not saying these stories are TRUE....'
What a plonker.............!!
The Real Bully Hoo.
Don't want to worry you but I've just seen this on the Dark Side.
realbrightonwolveswhogoes
March 15, 2013 1:06 pm
why not just put a rocket up the backsides of who we have.What does bug me is the fact that only half the side seem to try.
Back to the wall time.
Jack ♣ Hat.
Cantello,
My view is:
ALBION are only allowed one loan player from one club at a time, working on this basis and after I read the following blog regarding Tomas Kalas:
(Baggies boss Steve Clarke travelled to Holland at the weekend to watch the 19-year-old in action for Vitesse Arnhem, where he is on a season-long loan from Stamford Bridge. And the Czech Republic international has been added to the Baggies’ watch-list as they weigh up potential right-back targets, ahead of the summer transfer window.)
Why would Steve travel to Holland to watch Kalas if he was sure he could hold on to Romelu?. Further thought I realised Steve is covering our back as the whole situation is still up in the air. Only Chelsea know who will be their head coach for the next campaign and further I believe Chelsea will make a big Summer, striker signing as Romelu is still not experienced enough for his club. Now the situation alters, Romelu wouldn't want to return to his mother club to sit on the bench with the world cup approaching, so he would want to stay with us. Can't see Chelsea allowing Arsenal to sign him with the potential he has, as they know he is happy with us so they can give him further time with on his learning curve.
So you see mate how the pendulum swings backwards and forwards. The only positive I derived out of all this is, Steve has our collective back well and truly covered. That my friend is all that counts.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Robin Brittain
Whilst RL will return to Chelsea in the summer there is still the possibility that he may return to us next season. It all depends on who Chelsea sign in August on whether he may come back or not.
As for not playing him while he is with us that appears extreme. For one thing we will have paid a loan fee for him and for another on current form he is our best striker.
Mboy
RB - I agree that Lukaku is in a rich vein of form at the moment, which I hope will continue when I watch him tomorrow. I just don't think we should get over reliant on him as this would be detrimental for next season.
booge
who else we going to play as long is injured again
Mboy
Fortune, Odemwingie, Brown!!!
Jack ♣ Hat.
Mboy,
How can you use the word "Disappointingly" with the season we are having?. Leave out Lukaku, are you crazy?. You state ".... the time is right to see if other members of the squad are up to Premiership football.". What the heck do you think has been happening all season owing to the injuries and international football?. Then you say "We should start planning for next season NOW,". I give up, Dan Ashworth / Richard Garlick can you take over, PLEASE?.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Happy_baggie
With our recent history of getting stuggling managers the sack by beating their teams - how sweet would it be to hit the final nail to end Tony Pullis' anti-football reign at Stoke.... it would be like good triumphing over evil... sort of.
The Real Bully Hoo.
Happy.
Although it was very mild my earlier post seems to have fallen foul of the blue pencil. Cue the Star Wars music as Luke Clarku finishes off Darth Pulis with his futures bright futures blue and white sabre.
Just watch them put my original post up as well now.
Jack ♣ Hat.
Happy,
Wouldn't it again be a great blow for proper football mate?. Our new motto could be "To obliterate hoofball the Boing Boing way".
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Andrew Hodgkinson
YESSS!!!!! Its very unlikely Albion can overhaul Arsenal and Liverpool with us already beating the latter 5-0 on aggregate and the cockneys having to cheat to
beat us.
Ian James
Here's what the plan should be: further consolidation and establishment in the Premier League. Strengthening of the squad and depth of squad on a seasonal basis (depending on how we do every season, obviously, ie, not get relegated). Then, and only then, can anybody talk about giving it a go in Europe. We took time getting to this level and staying there, it'll take more to have a try at what the above article desires. Some ask if whether we've gone as far as we can go as a club, I say we can go further, but it'll take a whole lot of time and patience, intelligence and shrewdness. Right now, some clubs have spent loads and come to nothing. We've done the opposite. I don't think we should shrug our shoulders and say 'well, that's it then'. There's lots more to be done.
baggiescomeon
Couldn't have put it better myself mate, well said.
If Lukaku is going back though I really think we need to find another striker like him, as he has made a real difference this season.
That Benteke bloke looks decent, and hopefully we can convince Villa that it's best to keep him in the area while they are down in the Championship in the same way we convinced Blues to loan us Foster.
Iojik
Absolutely bang on! Keep on doing what we're doing. I do want to see this small/ medium ground expansion as well though. The main reason is to get even more kids hooked when they're younger so they become fans for life. We have to think really long term about this, and when it's done we can drop the kids prices even further. I currently bring four out of my six kids and they are Baggies mad. Trust me that is hard work when we live in Nottingham and all the exposure the big clubs get! Also when we play the big clubs, plus the local derby games, we can get more people in to see them. If we do this we will have done this in the correct way, unlike our friends down the road! Hopefully the future's looking very bright.
Cyril Randle
Lojik. The increase of ground capacity is essential. There has to come a time when The Prem isn't the same as now, and maybe with a fixed limit on entrance fees to see a game. We are capable of getting 30,000 every week with a good team and fair admission fees. Our Board has kept prices as low as they dare yet again, (except for old gits like me, sadly). There's no guarantee the kids will keep coming mate. All my four went regularly for a while, but 3 girls got blokes, the lad found other things. But you are doing the right thing and they must be loving the regular outings too.
The Real Bully Hoo.
Ian and lojik.
Excellent posts. Positive but with feet on the ground.
KEV R WBA
Mboy i totally agree with you mate. all as US ALBION fans can do now mate is keep winning games in a top 10 prem side!
and wait for the wolves to go into league 1 and make the gap between the 2 clubs even bigger than what it is now
and just laugh at them is'nt that correct mate!
boing boing mboy
nige
It doesn't take much to amuse a child's mind.........
IanTheLichfieldWolf
Such maturity. I actually came on here out of genuine interest in the article. On Europe, I think be careful what you wish for. Take your time to ensure the squad is deep enough to handle it first and just enjoy the ride you're having.
Having to make do with consolidation in the Premier League and steady progress towards a crack at Europe is really not too bad a situation to cope with is it?
Robin Brittain
By stating " just enjoy the ride you're having " you seem to infer that our progress will not last. There is no reason that we cannot continue to improve although any perceived success will become marginal before we hit the top five or sixth places which will be very difficult to encroach. In the short term our best way into Europe would be winning a cup competition as Swansea have done.
As for your own club you do not need any Albion fan to elaborate on your plight. The only light at the end of the tunnel would seem to be your U21 team which recently beat a very good Spurs side. Let's hope they quickly mature and provide you with a first team good enough to renew our old rivalry.
astleistheking
Warren I was one of the many that poured over the wall at Pompi in 94 and was captured on video doing so, and what an amazing day it was.
I think attendance has got a lot better over the years as the average during the early to mid 90's was 14-16k. We are now consistently pushing 25k but would like to see it get to 28k when our new mystery stand is completed. We are becoming a popular team and believe in time attendances will rise due to the feel good factor.
Regarding Europe, I think another season plugging away like we are is probably the best option. Add another 2 quality players will really make it more probable. To break in to the top 10 is one thing but doing it comfortably is another. If we finish in 8th spot I will be a very happy person indeed.
Oh please
AITK
Top 10 would do for me this season and we're well on track to achieving it mate. Another top 10 finish and a domestic cup would be great next season, I think we're well overdue!
Boing! Boing!
We Only Need One Half!
Excellent blog mate, I think your right about the European spot being as good as gone, whether its a blessing or a curse could be argued about all day, but, I agree with you, if your not going to go for it whats the point?
Interesting point about the gates, recession, prices etc, when I looked at it a few weeks ago upon until the Spurs game, we were averaging 25,176 for this season, which is up from 24,639 last season, yet I was under the impression that this years economy was still trending downwards not up. If the club is adding numbers like that now, at the bottom of a economic slump, what will happen when the area finally comes out of recession?
I don't know if just lowering the prices would be the elusive panacea that every club is hunting for though, Wigan charge the lowest prices in the Premier League, yet typically have one of the smallest gates averaging around 19,000. If prices are to be lowered to make a difference I think it needs to be substantial reductions of 30-50%, rather than a fiver here and three quid there, that isnt going to cut it in my view. I do agree about the Bundersliga prices, when they are slashed that low, typically 10.66, (if ours were slashed 50% they would still be nearly double that!) it brings it back into the realms of the youth to be able to afford to go again.
On the subject of FFFP, does anyone know why of the four clubs that voted against it, why we were one of them? as of the four, us, Fulham, Villa and Man City, I can only see that it would be detrimental to Man City?
Whats JP got up his sleeve this time???
Anyone any ideas?
Oh please
WONOH
I don't know what JP has up his sleeve mate, but I wonder if SC will give some of our youngsters a run out at some point now that Europe looks less likely?
Boing! Boing!
We Only Need One Half!
ummm? good point, however, I think will have more than one eye on the final placings at 750,000 a throw than the youngsters, unless, say last couple of games we fall 7 points behind the team in front of us? If you think back to last game last season, we were still going for it against Arsenal (and may have won it if we had had Foster that day, but I'm not bitter!)
oh those if's and an's mate, they'll keep you awake at night if you let em!
beevower
Mboy - don't play Lukaku again this season - you being serious?!!
We have Long out injured, Odemwinge only just brought back into the fold and very likely to leave in the summer, Fortune not good enough and Rosenberg - enough said! so who plays up front?!
with 800k a league place up for grabs we have to play our strongest side every game until the end now - that means Lukaku starts for me!
The Real Bully Hoo.
You're back as well. Did you disappear up the spam filter like me? Oo er missus.
Jack ♣ Hat.
Bully,
Our site is growing at an alarming rate, long may it do so. Even attracting sensible Dingles. Our site rating must have shot up to ****.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
AMS
It's a shame we didn't get past QPR in the FA Cup. There was a decent opportunity there this season for us. The club need to realise now that these cups do represent as good, if not better an opportunity for a European place than the league does. However each season we need to ensure our premier league status as a priority, anything else is still a bonus. The size of our budget within this league would put is in the bottom 5 easily. The quality of our team and backroom staff have propelled us into a comfortable top half team.
Best seasons we've had in 30 odd years. Worth enjoying this for what it is - another tremendous season.
I think we can repeat our win at Stoke from last season tomorrow. And daft as it sounds there is no pressure or expectation on us nicking 5th at the death; unlike Liverpool, Everton and Arsenal, so why not keep believing until we have to settle for less. What a think to be competiting against these teams again.
So proud. COYB!
Kali
Here we go again. West Brom can make Europe. Oh No its a pipe dream.
Wake up people! You can't give up on the season already with 9 games to go.
If this Baggies can take 6 of the games left to play, and this is quite possible, then you are looking at 61 points and that could put us in contention.
About time this Albion side and supporters move beyond just reaching safety season after season. Okay safety is important. But there has to be more to play for than just another season in the Premier League. So what other motivation will the team have to attack the home stretch? NONE! We've reached SAFETY so let's rest Lukaku, let's plan for next season. Forget the dream. It's not going to happen! REALLY! Well I got news for you the Baggies can PLAY European football next season and you know what they control their destiny. WIN 6 or 7 out of 9 and you"re in.
It's not about what other teams are doing its about what the Baggies do in the next 9 matches and I have no doubt whatsoever that the Baggies can finish the same way they started the season with a BANG!!!!!!!!!
astleistheking
Excellent motivational post!
We Only Need One Half!
Kali, I admire your enthusiasm, but are you not just basing it on blind faith? you have to take into account what the other teams are likely to do to. Check out my mirror league from the other day, I am not saying its perfect, but if you can come up with a better system I would be interested to have a gander.
Try it, its fun.
Jack ♣ Hat.
Kali,
Dead right mate, when you throw a straight right, aim for a foot behind the head, if you fall short by just reaching the nose, you won't bust a zit.
Good never give up post from you. Onward and upward with the BAGGIES.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Robin Brittain
You're right Kali , its about time the aspirations of the club and fans increased. If you try and standstill you will eventually go backwards.
KEV R WBA
MBOY IS A DINGLE
NIGE hates the fact that the albion are a good club now and his side are well hahahahaha
Mboy
Oh dear! I think you need to grow up!!!
Jack ♣ Hat.
KEV R WBA,
Mboy is a BAGGY he just has a knack of posting like a Dingle, mate. You see with some fans they say something against the grain to force a debate.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
We Only Need One Half!
All righty then, anyone up for a drink before Stoke game? and if so where? I was hoping to meet me old mate Baggieboy, but hes gone AWOL, and I will try to meet Do Lally, but the thought of going up to complete strangers just because they have a wife and kids with them, and saying "am yow do lally" may prove detrimental to my health!
I will have to check that clause in my BUPA that explicitly refutes cover for acts of Sadomasochism!
KEV R WBA
I AINT THE ONE CRYING !!! cus your side aint in the 123 as mine mate! pretending to be an albion fan!
NAIL!!!
Steve Poole Baggie
Warren, excellent blog, the nights against Valencia and Red Star Belgrade still hold fond memories of some of best times as a Baggies supporter. I recall Poppey away too, Peggy's goal and looking around at what seemed like 4 areas of the ground being filled with baggies supporters. Fond memories.
As for Europe, as things at the moment, you have to be positive and try and win every game we have left. If we acheive enough points to qualify for Europe then you make a plan as to how you will tackle it. Currently, I wiuld say that we have a aquad this is too light to cope with the league and European games but then we have to rely on JP to make the appropriate decisions. No matter what some say, he hasn't done too bad a job so far.
As for Lukaku, nobody knows for definite what will happen next season but M'boy seems to have lost the plot a little by suggesting that he doesn't play again. As an Albion supporter I want to see us finish as high as we can and in his current form he would have to be selected.
As for tomorrow, well it's Stoke and we all know what happens when we play them.....but then again.......
Come on you baggies!
AndyH
Afternoon all,
top blog Warren....you may be right about a european place but we may as well shoot for the moon as not....it's not like Arsenal and Liverpool are world beaters this season as they have both lost leauge games that you would normally expect to win so we shall see what happens. As for fffp stuff...you know the big clubs will find away around it. Am i right in thinking that there will be a percentage limit on what you can spend rather than an actual money number?? Either way the big clubs will still spend big and we'll develope in a much more sencible way.
I must take you to task though.....you mentioned Vince Overson...the bauld fella....just the thought of him still makes me shudder as he just use to kick everyone out of his was...looked mean and played meaner. You'd see him on the pitch and just wait for the first injury!!! And as for Mark Stein.....could play rubbish and would still score...have hated stoke ever since then really and not not much has changed. Not goin tomorrow as it's my sons 5th birthday party but lets get the three points...beat stoke and their "style" of football and put a smile a mile wide across the black country.
reagrds
AndyH
We Only Need One Half!
Like your thinking Andy, but on the fffp, all the "big" clubs voted for it other than City, we didn't, and I cant figure out why?
Get yourself over to Wolves pages everyone, there is a real bun fight going on, apparently we are all "inbreads" now I freely admit I am not the worlds greatest lexicographer, but if I was throwing an insult like that.....:-) made me smile anyway.
So no one's up for a drink? time to change my deodorant I think!!! I am going to get slapped aren't I for asking people if they are do lally tap!
Jack ♣ Hat.
One Half,
Crumbs mate, inbreads (that is a sweet name) are we, you have to expect that from ex- Stale fans. Couldn't they say halfbreads, then we could be the best of both.
By the way try the new deodorant brand range called Skunk Stink Systems. Nobody will get in gun range of you, and you get to pull your own beer.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Kev in Mallorca
One 'arf
Yowm right I've had to come off the Dingle pages I was 'avin that much fun the missus thinks I'm 'avin an affair.
Adeu
Jack ♣ Hat.
Kev,
Same here, read the bottom posts. Sorry they are on here cluttering up the place, but their mods don't pass my retorts.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Kev in Mallorca
Jack
I had about 5/6 binned, still it dow marra at least the Dingle loving mods red em!!!
Adeu
We Only Need One Half!
ref bin, ditto
The Real Bully Hoo.
Hi Warren.
Great to be able to read your blog and actually comment on it again (not everybody will agree about the second bit.)
Numerous top posts on here have stolen my thunder. It's a win win situation to me, if we qualify then great because I think it would help to convince better players to come. Having said that I think it's probably a season to early for us but European nights would be great so let's just wait and see although we have quite a tough run in.
Your mention of Foghorn Gleghorn brought back memories as he was around at the same time as Officer Andy Dibble. Some posters were calling each other children earlier, they've got nothing on my retarded sense of humour.
Despite your hope because Stoke are rubbish at the moment I still can't work up any enthusiasm for this game.
santa
Having read all the "will he won't he" be back next season,meaning Lukaku of course in the event of him NOT coming back,we really do need to try some of our youngun's, and be very active in the transfer market this summer.For when Lukaku Gets the haul off, the team does immediatly start to struggle,the shape seems to go etc.This lad has done a fantastic job since forcing his way into a starting line up.I'm sure the club will do the very best with good signings.We need to,don't want to become known as a one man team as at present sometimes it seems as though we are., with Rom,he can't help it,he's been so bloody good.
Shropshirebaggy
Disappointing news that we're unlikely to be playing in Europe, but I hope we still continue to push and don't take our foot off the pedal. I wouldn't want a bad end to what's been a fantastic season. Next on the agenda, beating the team from the land that time forgot!
On another note, please everyone ignore Mboy, he's just on the wind up. After all nobody would seriously suggest that we drop a player who has done so well for us, terrified defences up and down the country and has caused envy amongst rival clubs. You'd have to be puddled to suggest such a thing wouldn't you......?
Mboy
By having a go at me I can see that you're working hard to get on the committee. However, by using the word "disappointing" in your post, you'll upset Jack.
astleistheking
Agreed mate on the wind-ups on here. It's easy to do so behind a keyboard, and admit I do it every now and again on the Wolves thread. That's purely for my own entertainment.
CantelloRocket 78
SB,
you've asked us a question, so I'll just give you my opinion.
You're a friendly, intelligent, fair-minded person, who'll express your views on here, but be willing to listen to others, and hold your hands up if you feel you've misjudged a statement or situation.
But there are people in this world who have a very superior attitude, who believe they're always right, and get very angry if anyone questions their judgement, so much so that they'll do whatever it takes to back-up their believe about themselves and their opinions.
So for example, if such a person said early in the year that a player like Lukaku was detrimental to the Albion squad, and after he became our 'star player', this fact was pointed out to such a person, how do you think they'd react?
So yes, learn from my mistakes and resolve to ignore such a person, you've given very good advice.
Mboy
Well said, wee man! By ignoring my posts we can stop wasting everybody else's time as I won't feel the need to defend myself against such attacks by yourself. You have made others leave this site (most notably Sir Terry), but I ain't going nowhere.
Jack ♣ Hat.
Posted on the dark side regarding Inbread (inbred):
One Half,
It's okay mate, just Stale overspill. They haven't any football to debate after all and still believe they are omniscient. The only player wanting to join their club is a one named "Fluu Bugg" from Copenhagen. He stated "wo1-Ves are a club not to be sneezed at."
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Jack ♣ Hat.
London Wolf
March 15, 2013 1:52 pm
A burglary was recently committed at West Brom's ground and the entire contents of the trophy room were stolen. The police are looking for a man with a blue & white carpet.
London wolf,
.... a Dingle bought it for seven pounds stating "The money is better spent than paying to enter wo1-Ves tat cabin". L☺Ls.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Jack ♣ Hat.
FTDS:
Realist,
Never realised how many fans I had on this site, I am truly humbled. Send me a self addressed envelope and you can have my autograph.
L☺Ls.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~J♣H.
Warren
Cheers for all the comments. I should say I wasn't getting carried away talking of Europe, still extremely happy and grateful with what we've achieved this year.
A mate of mine was planning to take his two kids to the Manchester City game and complained to City about the distortion in price between the home and away sections. They've since wrote back stating this is down to a 'better atmosphere' in that part of the ground............even though it's a midweek fixture that probably won't be near to selling out.
TRBH- great to have you back, I hope you can make it for a few season-end drinks this year!!