FA review Crouch’s ‘eye poke’ on Olsson
Tuesday 24th January 2012, 10:59AM GMT.
Peter Crouch could face a three-match ban for his clash with Albion’s Jonas Olsson after the FA confirmed they will review his apparent ‘eye poke’.
An FA disciplinary panel will examine replays of the incident during the Baggies’ 2-1 win on Saturday.
And the former England striker could face a three-match suspension if charged with violent conduct.
The pair argued over a Stoke penalty appeal during the first half and TV cameras appeared to show Crouch attempt to poke his fingers in Olsson’s eye.
The off-the-ball incident went unnoticed by referee Anthony Taylor, but video evidence could now see Crouch punished.
Midfield star James Morrison, meanwhile, today urged Albion to use the FA Cup to kick-start their dismal home form.
The Scotland international is targeting a Cup adventure to match the ’ 2008 run to a Wembley semi-final against Portsmouth.
Morrison reckons victory over Norwich in Saturday’s fourth-round tie at The Hawthorns could also help inspire improved fortunes at home, where Albion have won just twice this season.
“A cup-tie can always change the fortunes of a season,” said Morrison. “If you’re on a bad run and you win a cup game it can change things.”
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I should think so too. It’s a cowardly act from anyone let alone from someone who also represents his country… hope he gets banned. Well done Jonas for not giving him the reaction he so patently wanted.
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Spot on Sue, I said as much myself on another thread. Olsson’s reaction was exemplary. I hope the FA throw the book at Crouch.
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Sue, Shropshire,
I also hope Crouch gets his comeuppance, then it will show others, there is no reason to roll about like a stupid kid when fouled to gain the officials attention. The Italians can keep their dramatics and leave the men to play our ball game. Well done ALBION for their part in bringing him to book. “Fairness in Football” is the battle cry.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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Jack.
421 posts on the Wolves match thread. That’s more than they had in the crowd at some games in their bad old/good old days.
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He’s an England international, the media love him, Jonas didn’t make a fuss, Roy didn’t make a fuss. Hands up those that think anything will be done.
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Although I can see where the first three posts are coming from, if he does get a 3 match ban that benefits us how? it just helps the next three teams Stoke play, one of which is Man Utd, because they really need the help don’t they! If these punishments are to be given retrospectively, has there seems to be an increasing trend towards, surely the fairest way would be if one of the matches the player is banned from should be reserved for next time the two teams in question meet. Scenario, Rooney does something in first 5 minutes of a game, and then subsequently receives 3 match ban after the game, those three games could be against teams your club are competing against for a European spot, relegation, even the title, it seems unfair the advantage is handed to everyone, except the team sinned against. Radical thinking I know, but I think its a valid point. Alternatively, we could just bite the bullet, get bloody cameras and a decent ref’s and have done with it!
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WONOH.
That is a useful proposal but the punishment also needs to punish the club whose player commits the offence. For example if a player does this and the next 3 matches are against those they are competing against in a relegation battle; not to have a ban but to wait for our next game, may be beneficial to the club in question. Also it may actually mean that we don’t see that club or player for 2 to 3 seasons (relegation or transfers) – at what point does time elapse and the ban become ineffective.
Perhaps the club offended (in this case ourselves) can choose the matches, within the current season, that the player must miss. If one of those is against us then fine.
When you get to the end of the season then the ban would stand for the remaining 3 matches.
Either way I’m glad the incident is being looked at. I doubt Stoke will be punished, they seem to have more influence at the FA than us.
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We only need – I spend the first 75 mins of any game against the top teams hoping for one of their players to be sent off, then the remaining 15 praying that they’re not for precisely the reasons you suggest. Sad really.
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TRBH,i just read on another thread about your work type.Is it brum nick you work at?I used to know a guy who worked there,maybe still does.A huge Gary Numan fan,as am i.Just curious.
Lets the hope the FA treat Crouch with the same kind of punishment we could expect if he played for us.Superb the way olsson just brushed it off.Time we tied jonas down to a long term contract.
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Bully,
Nearly all were calling for Micks head. Speaking to a Dingle last night and he said he is finished for this season, Also stated he hates the new stand. poorly designed and takes a quarter of a hour to exit. Something about the wrong bolts were used and the isles are too narrow, beer is £4 a pint. He didn’t say how much Jezzes pies were, so I told him if you were still in the cup and that Stand was allocated to us, you would have had approximately (For Bangkoks benefit) £7 in freebies off Jezz and free Tesco bags off us. Not happy chappies are they.
The F.A. will have to react if they see what I saw. Otherwise all these judgement they have made on seeing tapes will have to be rescinded.
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One Half,
It benefits all mate and it will cut out these type of assaults and help to clean the game up, it would hurt Stoke paying a player that can’t play. All I ask for is a level playing field.
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WONOH / AMS
Regarding your proposals to let the injured party (us) choose which games the aggressor (crouch) plays in, or is banned from, can i suggest we make crouch play for other teams AGAINST us in our next 3 games? as long as Olsson’s there he’s worse than useless
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7)AMS & 8)TB, yep, can see the merits of both your comments, I’m just annoyed that we didn’t get to play (deservedly) against 10 men, and we get some of the advantage that will be passed to others.
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I’m going to throw in yet another suggestion.
An incident such as this one with Crouch and Jonas, the incident with Alan Hutton and Long, tell me the offending CLUB haven’t encouraged their players to be ‘aggressive’ to whatever level can provoke a reaction.
We could have had 10 men had Jonas not been superb in self control. SO, take a point off Stoke as a punishment if this is upheld by the FA. That way, they become responsible for players’ behaviour. Something as drastic as club involvement is needed before RADA start giving Drama lessons to players.
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If it happened? and I havn’t found the pictures conclusive, you have got to ask yourself why didnt’t Olssen react. Now our mate Jonas aint no shrinking violet, as we all know and he didn’t react at all. Has anybody seen what Olsson had to say about it, cus I ve seen nothing.
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Interesting points on how to deal with punishments, but at the end of the day the complication that could occur may prevent the FA from bothering to punish at all. The current system is fine by me, I see it as a swings and roundabouts situation, just like unjust penalty decisions, offsides and ball over the goal line incidents etc.
I just glad that the FA have taken note and hope they deal with him as harshly as possible.
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NO ACTION TAKEN??????
Absolutely disgusted, what Crouch did is illegal in rugby union let alone the beautiful game. The FA have set a precident now and if we see this all the more they have no one to blame but their selves. Okay Crouch may not of actually done what he intended but the intent was there and the FA have taken no action against an England International. They should hang their heads in shame.
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As usual, the FA have done sweet FA.. no action to be taken, therefore they are saying that you can try to gouge someones eye out and get away with it, bit like lescott at man city, no flayling arm??? they really havent got a clue have they? anyway we are the ALBION and we dont need to con ref’s and cheat, we are bigger than that!!
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Jon Baggie, the TV pictures couldn’t have been more clear, Crouch was behind Olsson when he tried to gouge his eye, therefore it was quite deliberate. I’m not entirely sure how you would say the evidence is not conclusive!
I was at the game and saw nothing untoward from Olsson, and neither did I on TV when I watched the highlights on Sky Match Choice that evening. If you have seen something that nobody else has then perhaps you would care to enlighten us.
I have said already and I repeat, Crouch’s actions were an absolute disgrace. However, I take Bully’s point above, nowt will happen as its only little old Albion isn’t it!
Boing Boing!!
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9 New Brosely.
Would that be Judd you’re talking about? A definite one off but a good bloke as well and I’d call him a Gary Numan obsessive.
I see the FA have chosen not to act on Crouch, what a surprise. I forgot to add to my points at 5 that it was only against ‘little old Albion’ can you imagine if this had been Balotelli on Rio Ferdinand, he would probably have ended up in the Tower of London.
The FA run a ‘Cheat’s Charter,’ shame on them.
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Olsson should have made more of a fuss about it at the time, insted of just turning a blind eye.
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(20) Lone, very droll!!
So the FA are to take no action, disgusting! How can they talk about ‘respect’ when things like this go unpunished.
So I take it from this that the next ‘offence’ from an Albion player will be treated along the same lines…..
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I echo the sentiments in the other posts…an illegal act in Rugby has no place in football. A 3 match ban is the minimum Crouch should get!
What a class act Olsson is….I have to say had it been anyone with a dodgy temprament like Gabby or Jara, they may have slotted him?? Top man Jonas, a true leader!
No coincidence that we looked a much better team with him in the side.
Anyone think Mozza is our player of the season? He’s scored some vital goals for us and looks a different player altogether this year.
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10) Jack & 15) baggiescomeon, before this season, (although its been heading towards the situation we now find ourselves in for many a year) I would have probably agreed with your statement, about swings and roundabouts, but not any more. Look how many penalties we have conceded, (do we still have the record for this season? on paper, thanks to refing decisions, we must be one of the dirtiest teams in the league????) then look how many ones in identical situations by the “big boys” that have not been given.
Same with red and yellow cards, Wolves are a good example, Nenad Milijas, 3 match ban for a tackle, which in my opinion we have seen far, far worse going totally unpunished, and, even though the F.A. looked at it in hindsight, and with no pressure like a ref can be under, still managed to come to the same conclusion, and then, as if just to prove the point I am trying to make, along comes Lampard, against a Wolves player, with a tackle that there was no question (by his own admission after the game I might add) should easily have been a sending off, and in my humble opinion was ten times worse than Milijas’s, and he gets a yellow, and lives to play the next “3″ games. Ergo, I can no longer concur that it all evens itself out in the end any more.
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20 lolol my fav dingle …
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19 TRBH, spot on m8, that is appaliing and sends out the wrong message to all players, what is it with the dinosaurs at the FA, they slag of blatter, but do the same in our league, heres one for you imagine crouch done that to j ollsson, hmmmmmmmm
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Apparently this was left to the referee to look at the TV evidence and make a decision. But then he was the same ref that thought Woodgate didn’t merit a red card when he brought down Jarvis bearing in on goal inside the penalty area.
Should have gone to SpecSavers.
Or is it just that officials seem to have a downer on clubs beginning with W. Baggies, Wolves and Wigan seem to be on the wrong end of most of the diabolical decisions that happen.
The more I think about it the more I get frustrated, confused and angry at the FA’s disciplinary standpoint. I’m tending to agree with Marc on Jarrod’s Blog. It makes you feel like saying ‘what’s the point?’
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Just read the national press and the ref saw nothing wrong with the incident, so no ban for Crouch……words fail me.
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There is an Action Group called 38 degrees or summat similar whereby the Government can be made to respond to concerns of the electorate.
We should form one to unite our concerns about the FA. We could start by insisting that ‘FA’ stood for ‘Fanny Adams’, a reflection on their abilities.
We could call it:
“The Fanny Adams Action Group”
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So the F.A has decided not to discipline Crouch as the referee has said that having reviewed the incident he “wouldn’t of given Crouch a red card had he of seen it at the time”
Here’s me thinking that in modern day football if ANYBODY raises their hands and makes any contact with another players face then they will either be sent off at the time or face a retrospective ban for the charge of violent conduct (i.e. Tamas V Norwich)
These double standards from the F.A don’t even come as a surprise to me anymore; maybe they just think its only ‘little old Albion’ so it doesn’t matter. Now it goes without saying that IF Olsson or any other Albion player for a fact would of committed the same offence against ANY team I’m 100% certain they would be sitting in the stands for the following 3/4 games without any hesitation.
It’s a joke
BOING BOING!!!
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Astounded, by the decision made by the “Opposite end from the cows noses body” (Discount the tails) that run our game. Carry on GOUGING and Dying fly actions and anything else that’s nothing to do with football. We now belong to a sewer game. Hopefully Our ALBION stay as they are. I am ashamed of the F.A. and referees are unfit for the job they are supposed to do.
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Get Whittingham from Cardiff.
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no action because the ref says he wouldn’t have sent him off had he seen the incident
on another planet, far, far away, the ref sees Bolatelli aim a stamp at a prone opponent’s head, and decides against showing a red card
ref is overruled and aforementioned cretin is handed a suspension…
…so what’s all that about then eh?
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91,
Sure shows the F.A. make up the rules as they go along, Why not tear up the rule book, it is not needed and has become obsolete. Football is as bent as an old penny. Anything goes. Pulis has got it right.
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jack the hat
i had the miserable misfortune to watch the cardiff v palace game, or most of it anyway
it served as a perfect reminder of just how far we’ve come in the last few years, and i couldn’t see a single player out of the 22 who could get near our first 25
still, one man’s meat an all that eh?
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Balotelli should now be found not guilty.
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33) Sherlock, “it served as a perfect reminder of just how far we’ve come in the last few years”
Did you clock Paul Mcshane (not the fat Northern comic from Hi De Hi, the other one that we lost Kuszczak for!) coming off the bench for the last 10 minutes for Palace? just think, was not so long ago he was scoring for us against Colchester!!! in a 1-2 victory to us, that apparently (yes I was surprised by this too) ended Colchester’s 14-game unbeaten home record!
And when was this? less than 5 years ago. In the words of Fatboy Slim, “you’ve come along way baby”
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34 Jack.
Got to agree with you there. If I was Man City I’d have the lawyers all over it.
I thought that if the ref saw an incident then his decision couldn’t be overturned anyway. But even if you ignore that one I’d be citing the ‘Crouch acceptable attempt to blind another player.’
I’ve said it before but it’s not what you know in this league it’s who you know. And like the big clubs Pulis and Crouch know the right people.
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33 & 35 sherlock and WONOH.
Great point, I only hope others read and digest.
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Whittingham looked ok last night and might make our squad, so might Zaha? I agree though, we need to take a long hard look at where we have come from.
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Bully,
The referee did not see it as it was an off the ball incident mate. I’m angry because of the F.A.s incompetence. They are letting our national game go down the chute. The hatchet men are winning and it is not right or fair. Jonas is a very lucky guy, could have ended up with a massive eye injury, but are the F.A. bothered, are they heck. Wait until some-one gets really hurt, then we know who to blame don’t we pal.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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Cyril can i be chairman please …
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TRBH,yeah it is judd i meant.Really nice guy.He used to buy cd’s from my stall in telford some years ago.Been to a few Numan gigs too and seen him there.
I can only guess the FA let crouch off as he is a england international.Not really a shock though,sadly.
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33/35/37 Sherlock,WONOH,Bully-
All I know is that championship football now looks slow and deliberate to me.
Since I moved to sit near the pitch,middle of the East Stand,and Albion have put more quality in their squad,the football looks on another level.
I still find it hard to take in the speed and quality of what’s played in front of me,it just looks a class apart from what we used to see at The Hawthorns.
I just think that some people have short memories,and forget where we’ve come from since the 80′s and 90′s.
As for the Crouch incident-
Bully said at post 5 exactly what I thought,and sure enough it’s turned out that way.
I remember Bob Taylor once being sent off because he squared up to somebody,and the Ref. said he ‘looked like he MIGHT nut the other guy’,although neither player made physical contact,and neither one had moved when the card was shown.
So if Bob had poked the guy in the eye instead of talkin’ to him,he’s have stayed on the pitch then?
Disgusting.
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So what would have happened if a certain Mr Barton had done that to a player?
We all know the answer to that one don’t we?
Is there such a thing as precedents in Football? If so, by recognised protocol, whoever attempts an eye gouge next can surely quote this incident to escape any punishment.
What message does this send out to the grass roots? I can see it now… sunday mornings with 8 year old lads grabbing at each others faces…
Beautiful!
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40TAN, only if, Sir Terence, the lovely girl with the lovely legs can be MY Secretary. Only fair mate as I thought it up. We’d all be on the Board, bit hard, but we’d have to manage.
I think that because WBA, in their wisdom, didn’t make any fuss over the eye-gouging, the FA and the ref are only too pleased to sweep it under the carpet. Let’s hope Mr.Pulis had a quiet word with Crouch after Roy and Jonas showed him how real gentlemen behave. It takes years to build a good reputation, one day to lose it. Take that on board Crouch and go to the bottom of the class.
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42) CR78, I must admit, I used to enjoy The Championship more, for the simple reason that on any given week, a team from the bottom stood a realistic chance of shocking one from the top. However, The Prem has seen a distinct shift of late, especially last season, where this is now becoming more common in The Prem, which for me makes a more exciting league, rather than the more or less fore gone conclusions of a few seasons ago.
Perhaps this could explain why ref’s now appear more biased than ever, after all, the F.A. need to protect its “big” names to attract the over sea markets?
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45 WONOH,
I do agree with you in respect of what you say about the Championship.
I’ve said on here in the past that our seasons down there were a lot like the football I grew up with,more evenly matched and less of the ‘highly paid Prima Donnas’ around,so I found it more enjoyable than trying to compete with the ‘favoured’ Prem. clubs.
I think I was just having a little dig at the people who still complain about the quality of some of our performances this season,because even when we don’t play well,we still look more skillful as a squad than we were a few years ago.
As I’ve also said before,on one hand we want our club to be as successful as possible,which means playing at the highest level,but on the other,I still dislike the Premiership.
What can you do?
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Jon Dog Head,
Of cause you didn’t see anything wrong, playing dirty tricks is normal for you lot. I.E. Henry.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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Sherlock,
So you wouldn’t sign McAuley or Jones then mate. Whittingham suits the way we play.
Arsen Wenger wants a ban on Premier league clubs loaning players over twenty-one to each other.
Mr. Wenger,
Football is now a sewer business not a sport. Business caters for dealings of this nature, also for enterprise. Glad to educate you.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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jack the hat
how ridiculous of me to watch an hour and a quarter of that match without even noticing McAuley and Jones were playing
thanks for pointing it out
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Cantello,
There is only one thing you can do mate, Support the Dog-Heads next season. LoLs.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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Sherlock,
I guessed you wouldn’t comprehend my post. Never mind I did try.
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jack the hat
it’s your superior intellect mate, i just can’t keep up with it
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50 Jack,
Maybe we should all go down to the Mol. a few times next season,just to help ‘em out.
There’s gonna be a lot of empty seats in the place…………
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Mattock may go to Birmingham in exchange for Ridgewell. See what I meant @ (48) Mr. wenger?.
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Sherlock,
Keep trying mate, I have every faith in you.
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Cantello,
Sorry mate, not after what I’ve been told regarding their new stand. Nobody will get me in one of those reformed dustbins.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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There was only ever going to be one outcome after Roy told the media how good the ref was …
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jack the hat
i have tried but it’s pointless, absolutely pointless
bit like pretending Arsene Wenger’s reading this and addressing him directly
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Sherlock,
Of cause Mr. Wenger doesn’t read this, it’s just a way of putting it. So sorry it confuses you. Don’t take things so literally. Keep trying mate.
BGOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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The outcome of the ‘Crouch’ inquiry was very predictable.
Both the Referee and the F.A. obviously saw the offence on video,but it was purely their decision and they appear to have ‘bottled’ it.
Full marks to Jonas for the way he dealt with the incident.
And full marks to Roy Hodgson for the dignified way he’s conducted himself.
It makes you proud to see mature men acting like adults,and not whinging like stroppy school kids.
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oh but jack the hat, i do read it. OF COURSE i do
it would seem my English is better than yours also
i’m very surprised that my friend Sherlock could be confused by such a simpleton. in fact, i wonder if he is being a little sarcastic?
bon appetite revoir le maison!
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Cantello,
Sure proves Jonas is a tough guy. That tape should go around the schools to show aspiring youngsters how to conduct themselves on a football pitch, in spite of the F.A., Referees and some childish players who try to defame our beautiful game.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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58 Rocket.
I agree with all of that but it’s still sickening that we suffer for being honest.
As I said the other day it’s a Cheat’s Charter and goes against everything that British people hold dear..
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Well dones Jonas for not reacting unlike the times you have reacted to the wba fans with your two finger gesture!
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62 Ernest.
I believe he did this once and I am an Albion supporter, he wasn’t doing it at me but at the minority of idiots that were barracking our own keeper. Quite right he was as well.
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talking of two-finger gestures, here’s a virtual one for ya…and a nice poke in the eye.
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