I said last week we were doomed after Merson had us down for a win against Wigan…well this week he’s got us down for a loss so we should be okay!

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To be judged whether he’s a premier league player he needs a run of games. Roy Hodgson is not allowing him a run so how do us the fans know if he’s comfortable at this level? Dorrans is 24 not 18, his career is just drifting by.

The same applies to George Thorne if he’s good enough he’ll shine if given the opportunity.

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If we’d won last week people would be saying Odemwingie’s return was the catalyst.

Similarly if we’d won and played 4-5-1 again, it would have been due to Dozza’s return.

Instead, these threads get littered by the “this country’s going down the pan I tell ya” brigade (post 3) who continue proclaiming that “we’ve seen the best of Dozza” and “Odemwingie’s not bothered now he’s got his contract”.

What a load of carp.

Both quality players, both (to anyone who bothers going every week) clearly still bothered, or at least as bothered as last season when everything was going swimmingly.

Odemwingie was trying to rev the supporters up at the weekend, are those the actions of a player who desperately wants out????

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The board was closed on a topic and Matt made a good comment. My reply was:
6.Matt. Nice post mate.I think we should allow for people’s worries too though. Football isn’t the simple game it once was. We had a few thugs back then but very few CHEATS. The British psyche would not stand for cheating. “Play up, play up and play the game” even amongst the working classes was the order of the day. So many men did Forces and National Service and the habit was not to question orders, so the refs had a quiet time too. That’s why my blood boils when I see diving, feigning injury, trying to get opponents sent off, biased refs, etc.

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Somwhere, recently, I’ve seen the adjective “sturdy” ascribed to some players, by a manager who wants his younger players protected. If you leave out the “s” you can make a sort of anagram of sturdy. In my opinion the sturdiest player we ever had was Ray Wilson. I admired his style and he did cause some wingers to simulate diving, or at least hurtle through the the air. Dougie Fraser, on the other hand, was not sturdy, just very hard and fair – possibly my favourite player of all time, with the possible exception of Willie Johnston, who didn’t dive but certainly flew. (endorsed by William Shankly)

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Just tried to comment on the Scott Allen page but it won’t allow me so thought I’d repost here:

I’ve had doubts about many things this year, but our continued ability to spot young talent on the cheap isn’t one of them. I’ve had a Dingle mate laughing down the telephone this morning. Believe me, we’ll have the last laugh…

Lordsmyshep – Yes, very nervous about tomorrow. Looking at our next 3 games, we may well end up in the relegation zone at some point. But I’m also confident that, so long as we get our squad playing to its potential, we will get out of it.

Ps Did anyone else see the BBC match preview? I quote: “the inform Chris Brunt makes his 250th appearance.” People get paid to deliver this rubbish?

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5 JJ.
Love the first line. I might adopt it as my mantra. Brilliant.

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Tchoyi not in squad tomorrow due to having a child. Dorrans wants to leave.

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inside man
Hope your wrong for once on the Dorrans situation and can’t wait too hear the theories as for his reasons!
Adéu

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Inside man – I, too, hope you’re wrong for once.
Kev i m – If I started writing any more songs I’d put Leonard Cohen out of business. Adios.

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