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West Brom assistant boss Michael Appleton named Portsmouth manager
Thursday 10th November 2011, 9:40AM GMT.
West Brom assistant boss Michael Appleton was today appointed the new manager of Championship club Portsmouth.
The 35-year-old former Baggies midfielder has signed a three-and-a-half year deal to follow Steve Cotterill as Pompey’s new chief.
A press conference has been called for this afternoon to unveil Appleton, who is taking his first steps in management.
Both clubs have been in talks for several days over compensation, but an agreement has now been reached.
West Brom boss Roy Hodgson revealed earlier this week that there are no plans to appoint a successor to Appleton, who was at the Hawthorns for almost a decade as player and coach.
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best a luck Appy! that’s all i can say really
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I said last week that he was ambitious,so I’m not surprised that he’s taken the job.
Although he’s been associated with us for a number of years,you have to take into account that he was born in another part of the country,and really wanted to be a Manager,so loyalty obviously doesn’t carry much weight when he’s given this opportunity.
It’s interesting that Roy doesn’t seem to have a replacement in mind,could that be because he still plans to retire at the end of the season,and a new management team will come in?
I guess we will see in the fullness of time…….
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I’m surprised but goodluck appy!
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Good liuck Appy,but something tells me that all is not well within. I dont think he likes Roys style of play, along with other team members, Hey but what do I know. I shall still back the Manager until a time when …. well lets not go there.
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I wish him well, but wonder if Portsmouth is stable enough to give Appy a good start to his managerial career.
Will Roy look to replace him?
I heard that a bloke called Connor may be available in the near future.
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Best of luck ! – Portsmouth doesn’t look like an easy club for your first job as Manager.
I suspect one or two players and members of the coaching staff probably have found Roy’s style a little dull and restrictive compared to what they have been used to under RDM & TM but you can’t argue with his record.
My money would be on Roy taking the England job after Capello if the FA want a safe pair of hands but if he doesn’t get it then I don’t see him retiring just yet.
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Sad news that Appy’s leaving.
However, realistically neither he nor McInnes were suitably qualified to be an Albion successor in the Premier League (should we stay there), without a bit more experience at a good level in England. It looks like both will get that now, so this may turn out to be a positive in the future still.
The only worry in the meantime is the loss of an obvious bond he would have shared with the players. Particularly at a time when some relationships with Hodgson will be tested- Shorey, Mulumbu, Tchoyi etc- and some of the more creative players- Brunt, Thomas, Odemwingie etc- could be forgiven for having a small gripe with how their natural attacking instincts are being constrained, when they would’ve been used to more freedom in the last year or two.
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The Hoff
I think Roy certainly has one eye on the England job which is probably why there’s been no talk of a renewed contract. To be honest, barring us finishing in the top 10 (which on current form seems a long way off), I can’t see him getting it.
However, I’m not so sure this contract situation’s a bad thing as it gives us a bit more flexibility. If what we’ve seen so far continues, then the our more creative players could be forgiven for looking elsewhere in the summer. At least this way, letting things unfold over the season, it’ll be plain to see for all which is the best route to take- playing to the strengths of our best players and looking for someone willing to do that, or sticking by a successful coach who wants to take us in a different direction and change the personnel- and we can make the decision based on that.
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Congratulations Appy. As most have already said, it’s a tough first job in management, but there will be little expectation on the shoulders of a novice manager. I hope you become a great manager and return to us later in your career as the finished article.
Boing Boing
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Further to that, if RH keeps us up comfortably. Would JP even entertain the idea of getting rid of him, when the continuation of his reign here almost guarantees PL football (however negative the football may be), the loss of which would wipe millions of JP’s shares? I can’t help think entertaining football may become less of a priority in this instance.
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Best of Luck! Now go get Lewington!!
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Although the Albion have looked after him I don’t blame him for wanting to be his own gaffer. Unlike some I see it as a decent chance, whoever follows Fergie at Man Ure will be on a hiding to nothing whereas if Appy achieves anything at Pompey he will look like a miracle worker.
Best wishes and Good luck Michael Appleton.
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CANTELLO
I think i will stir the hornets nest and suggest we should look for a new management team now.
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Oh, forgot to say in all that:
Thank you and good luck Michael Appleton. Hope we see you again in the future.
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Good Luck appy..Pompy will be a difficult task as a first managerial job. i dont think roy will retire at the end of season but do think he needs an understudy to back him up incase of illness why not give it to dan ashworth he seems to have a talent or even dien kiely..
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Good luck Appy, good player, good coach and good bloke.
Will be interesting to see if the likes of Thorne, Mantom, Hurst end up there on loan pretty soon.
Noticed a few comments above are making up stories that Appy and senior players are unhappy with Roy. Remember we did had the same stories with Di Matteo at the end of his time with us. How about rather can making up issues you chill out, get a life and back the club. That’s what we do best!
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Good Luck Appy. He may not have held the limelight at the Hawthorns but over the time he has been at the club we have progressed beyond our dreams. He has worked tirelessly in the background and under different managers with different styles. So firstly thanks for all your hard work and all the best with Pompey.
As for us I think this is not a bad thing as it gives Roy the opportunity to bring in his own right hand man. Whilst I understand the concern Warren has with the possibility some players may not see eye to eye with Roy; this change may work for the good of all concerned.
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According to Greg Halford ‘Pompey are bigger than Wolves’ and Pompey are pursuing our backroom staff.
I think this more than anything else indicates how far ahead Albion are of Wolves as a club………
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Why do people always see a conspiracy in any change at the club? There have been many other opportunities at lesser clubs than Portsmouth for Appy to leave,so I suppose this one was too tempting for an ambitious young coach.
Thanks for all your hard work and the very best of luck and you never know, we may see you again.
Adéu
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13 Max,
I’ve told you before,you can’t have the ‘dream team’ of Megson and McInnes.
(well,at least not until JP finds someone to buy his shares……..:)
By the way,I only mentioned Roy retiring because that’s what his wife wanted him to do before Albion made him an offer.
If the F.A. offered me the England job,I’d DEFINITELY retire.
Can you imagine the grief you’d get?-
and that’s only from John Terry & co………
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Its not the players unhappy with Roy. Its Roy being unhappy with some of the players. There are no problems only frustration certain players dont have the quality or ability to follow simple instructions. There is less freedom given but nobody sets out the team specifically to be dull or play for a draw. Need to get the basics right then the flair can come later. We cannot come from a goal behind every game and expect to stay up like last season
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I think Wall Heath Baggie is right to stir up a hornets nest and suggest that now is the time for us to plan a new management team. Presumably Michael Aplleton was told that he was not guaranteed to take over from Roy Hodgson should he leave next June . I would think that RH and JP are leaving their options open in view of Roy getting the England job. This is a consequence of making a short term appointment at a time of crisis. In any event RH is reaching a stage in his life when he will want to curtail his activities so surely now is the time to appoint a new coach who will be capable of continuing his good work when and if he goes. The new man might not have to wait long for his opportunity.
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Funny is it not that some think all is well in Paradise , but the performances in the first 11 games would suggest something entirely different.
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I’m sure Appy would have been with us for many more years if he was content to just ‘fit-in’ with the backroom team,but he only had one game as ‘stand-in’ manager,and must’ve been frustrated that he didn’t get the opportunity to change things in the way he wanted to.
He’s always been fully commited to his football,as we saw on the pitch,so it would be great to see him succeed at Pompey.
Good luck mate.
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No.22
Before Cantello Grumpy pulls me up I mis-typed Appleton.
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Good luck Appy, you have been a total asset to the Albion, and I wish you all the best for the future.
If we do need to appoint a replacement, my choice would be Nigel Pearson, who I feel given the right backing and set up has the potential to be a top, top manager.
He impressed me with his very short tenure in charge, given that he took over a team that, under Robo, had struggled to 19 wins, 38 draws, and 24 losses, to 3 wins and a draw out of four games played, no mean feat with the same players.
Obviously not being privy to why we never appointed him after that, perhaps he didn’t want it, or J.P. never offered it, I feel he would make a fantastic understudy for Roy.
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Good luck Appy!
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13 Max McFly,
As usual I agree with you. We’ve missed the good old days of having three managers a season. Let’s get back to the golden decade that was the 90′s.
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I’ve seen no evidence that Roy is unhappy managing Albion. Other suggestions are that he will either retire or manage England – so basically we don’t know.
I’m fairly confident that JP will know Roy’s intentions and will be preparing accordingly. If he leaves I’m sure JP will bring in yet another good manager – he aint done badly so far.
If Roy feels he wants an assistant and that person is available I’m sure JP will make an approach – or Roy may feel happy to go it alone for a while….. either way I see no issues on the horizon.
Good luck to Appy – hope all goes well and we can see 2 ex-baggies making a name for themselves as managers.
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As we seem to be on the verge of installing a new manager:p can I ask for Brendan Rogers from Swansea please!!!???
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21 Inside Man-
I think you’ve probably touched on the real problem.
Some of us were saying last week that the players can’t just blame a change of system for poor displays,you can’t make Roy responsible if Brunty misses a penalty,or GD drags his shots weak and wide of the mark,or all the players stand on the goal line for a corner,looking at the Swansea players as they score,because no one thinks about marking someone in a dangerous position.
We often see Roy looking fed-up during a game,and shaking his head in frustration.
‘Bomber’ mentioned a while ago that RH was unhappy that we missed out on getting a couple of new players deadline day,so he may feel he’s limited to what he can achieve this season.
I remember many years ago,about 1972-73 when we were relegated,that the manager at the time,Don Howe,came on the telly near the end of the season almost crying,as he said-
‘you work with the players all week,try to motivate them,train them,tell them what to do-then they run on the pitch and forget everything you’ve worked on’.
Maybe some Managers can squeeze more out of the players than others,but the guys on the pitch have to take their share of responsibility too.
No passing the buck.
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How I see it is: Appleton knows he can coach,
now he wants to see if he can manage. Working on a shoestring budget in a lower division with what was once a huge club, all of a sudden it’s Christmas! If I were in his shoes,
I’d be there quicker than a flash.
What he leaves behind is a football club. You cannot get more volatile than that.
Good luck M.A.
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You have to wish him well, and hope that he will succeed in his desire to be a top football boss. His Albion career was cut short due to the injury he suffered and the medical issues that developed,when we were just seeing him deliver his best footballing form.
I hope he makes the transistion, all the info suggests that he is highly rated in the game! Good Luck Appy and I am confident we will see you back here at some time in the future!
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25 Robin Brittain?-
I’ve never replied to you before,but I had noticed that your posts are usually very negative and critical towards Albion.
Apart from that,the only person to ever call me ‘Cantello grumpy’ is ‘shirley clacka’,but your spelling and style are more like ‘laughingwolf’.
As these two are the only ones to regularly come over here ‘in disguise’,and claiming to be genuine Albion fans,could they be one and the same?
So who exactly are you?
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31Cantello. Don Howe may have wanted to cry at the end of the season, we cried all the way through it! Boring and total rubbish on a defensive scale of 10. My memory tells me he bought Willie Johnstone but still nothing happened.
Not too long ago, a manager said ‘if the players were complete, I wouldn’t be needed, but they’re not, so I devise a method of play that uses their strengths and disguises their weaknesses’. Sounds good to me.
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28 TRBH
Max Mcfly as a certain ring to it and i may change it to my ‘Nomme de Guerre’. I even got the ‘ Back to the Future’ reference or did you mean the Hornet bit ??? .
On a serious note , Hodgson looks to me at times like a bloke who would rather be anywhere but West Bromwich. His contract ends in May 2012 so he does not fear the sack and it begs the question , is he really that committed ??, performances so far suggest that total apathy as set in .
CANTELLO
I always thought Robin was a positive sort of bloke and i have a feeling that the grumpy post a’int him, but as these conspiracy theories often get me in trouble , i will leave it at that.
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34 Rocket.
I think RB is genuine, he’s been on here a long time and isn’t always negative. Not sure how he can think you’re grumpy though.
35 Cyril.
It was a very cheerless time wasn’t it. It should have worked,successful ex Arsenal coach that wanted to prove himself in management but didn’t. But it was during his reign that the youth system was set up that paved the way for a lot of the success enjoyed by RA and JG and then later ruined by BFR.
I think the last but one para in Rocket’s post @31 is so true, you only have to think of Luke Moore.
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35 Cyril,
I remember we were rubbish that season,which is obviously why we were relegated,and Don Howe wasn’t one of our better managers,but the point I made in my post is that several players this season have given the ball away cheaply on the pitch,and made many basic schoolboy errors.
If someone slices his shot at the corner flag,or fails to spot the opposition centre forward running unmarked into a scoring position,can they look across at the manager and shout-
‘that was your fault!’?
I’ve known many people who instinctively look for someone else to blame when they fail to do their job properly,so I like to see a person stand up and accept personal responsibilty when they get it wrong.
And sadly I see very few footballers do that.
Even when they’re obviously at fault.
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Dan Ashworth stated some months ago that they are always looking to the future in terms of managers,coaches and I think this will certainly be the case now.Roy Hodgsons job is to keep our club in the premier this season and that would be an excellent achievement.I think most people would agree that last season was a remarkable achievement where we probably over achieved in our performances and to try and match that the following season without spending alot of money is a hard task.
I am very worried about Dorrans, he looks a shadow of himself and as done now since we got back in the premier !!!
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inside man
can i assume that Hodgson is less than happy with his two main summer signings then? neither Robbie Keane nor Nigel Reo Coker have even kicked a ball for us yet mate
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Anybody with a sense of humour may I recommend the Wolves blogger Tim Spiers video. Very funny.
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Time for him to move on he needs further
experience at a lower level I was concerned
he might have took over after RDM I recall
his poor assessment in the West Ham game 3-0
up and he replaced injured Mulumbu with
lightweight Morrison and gave Scott Parker
freedom of the Hawthorns we were lucky to get
a point woeful assessment of what was needed.
I hope he proves me wrong. I agree Roy’s need
to stop leaking goals resulted in less attractive style he obviously sees getting the
ball up to the front two quicker.
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Cant see that Appy doing one is anything short of a disaster for the stripes.
Roy and his squad dont see eye to eye. Fact.
The squad dont see eye to eye. FACT. ( dont forget that they were punching lumps out of each other after the Stoke game )
Appy was the only one holding this fragmented sorry state of affairs together.
The next five games in the run up to xmas will prove do or die in Albions attempt to emulate Wolves in a third season top flight.
Somethings brewing down at the old C/C.
I watch with interest…….
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i agree with whb
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STREETLY
Dan Ashworth , i wondered when somebody would bring him into the melting pot. The man who plays kingmaker but has never played or coached in pro football,he reminds me of a heart surgeon who cannot stand the sight of blood.
I agree Dorrans seems to have lost his way , somebody needs to get him back on track and quick.
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43) Yes but be fair Lone, the Wolves Manager, Fans, Team or Board don’t see eye to eye down at the Reds Row, which is why they spend the majority of the time running around like schizophrenic headless chickens, never knowing if the fans will support them from one week to the next! No wonder Mick calls them (amongst other things!) Numpties! (I did note this week after your one win “roll” he thinks they are wonderful again, which coincidentally, so do the fans?) umm??
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Following our crazy 3-3 draw to West Ham after leading 3-0 at half time- Michael Appleton came out with an after match comment, I’ve never heard the like of in 45years of watching football….and that was “3-0 up is a dangerous scoreline”!!!!!…….Good Luck Pompey…you’ll need it.
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43 Lonely.
That rope’s wobbling again perhaps you need one of those balancing poles. Just don’t look down into the abbyss.
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Max.
Is there anybody at the club you do like?
PS sid.
That’s one hell of a clairvoyant’s act you’ve got going with Max.
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Max McFly, your ‘shooting from the hip’ nom de gurre. Love it! Hail Bully.
Wallheath, the stable, somewhat negative approach to all things Baggies.
At 45 comment. You’re a Doc Martin fan.
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43 LW ,glad you posted tonight m8, having trouble sleeping lately zzzzzzzzzzz
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43 Lonely-
interesting that you say the next few games will be important to the Baggies future-
I’ve just had a look at the wolves’ up-coming fixtures-
oh dear!
It seems that after this week’s tricky trip to Everton,you have an easy run-
over the following 6 weeks you’ve got-
Chelsea at home,plus Man.U.,Arsenal,Spurs,and-Chelsea(again)-all away.
Put it this way-
I don’t think you’ll have to wait until the last 3 minutes of THIS season to see if wolves are safe.
I think,if you do make a fight of it,you can stretch things until maybe March before the final nail’s driven in………….
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All this talk of Roy being England manager makes me laugh. I thought you had to have some success in club management before being considered for the England job.
Typical of some of our fans. Going overboard about Roy’s ability.
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49 TRBH
Those in authority the answer would be NO. Players yes , particularly Olsson and Mulumbu because imo they always give 100% even when their form is a little off , indeed if all our players mirrored their attitude we would not have any problems. I have been very impressed with Long as well and i hope he gets back to playing very soon.
The last Manager who had my total backing was Megson ( no surprises there Cantello ?) and i have the distinct feeling if Mcinnes does well at Bristol, he could well be our next manager. Somebody on these boards also mentioned Nigel Pearson , which i thought was an excellent shout , although he appears to be returning to Leicester.
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Max.
I loved Dererk McInnes as a player and he seems to have made a good start to his managerial career BUT… That’s what it is a good startperhaps still early days to manage a PL team these days, especially as the first sign of a problem leads to some supporters calling for his head.
On Nigel Pearson, I know it’s totally unreasonable but have you ever watched him being interviewed after a game? He never looks at the reporter or the camera, his eyes wander everywhere as if he’s thinking ‘what shall I have for tea, wow she’s a bit of alright, who was my favourite James Bond?’ I know it doesn’t stop him being a good manager but he always looke a bit weird.
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50 Cyril and Max.
I chuckled at that, BTW I love Doc Martin (guilty pleasure.)
On a serious note, do you really need to have played or coached at pro football to appoint a manager. Lets probe a little deeper. Do we think many footballers are particularly cranially well endowed? I think the answer is no. Most coaches/managers are ex-players, see answer to question one.
This man who knows nothing about football has given us a succession of managers that have got us into and now kept us in the PL. How many clubs that have spent millions more than us would die to be able to say that?
This man who knows nothing about football has given us a talented squad of players for what is by today’s standards peanuts.
Hail the inept, unqualified idiot that is Dan Ashworth.
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Baggiebob
I suggested Roy as an England candidate but believe me I’m not inflating his ability or promoting his case.
But IF the FA appoint an English manager, who are the alternatives? Harry who’s just had heart surgery? Or Alan Pardew on the back of a flying start? Denis Smith? Was Roy not interviewed last time?
Roy’s CV in his own eyes, will make him believe he is a realistic candidate (whether he actually is one or not) and it would seem to fit in with him not signing a contract and there being no talk of one in the summer.
Let’s not confuse that with suggesting he SHOULD be England manager, which is a different argument altogether!!
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37 The Real Bully
Thank you for your support in reassuring Cantello Rocket that I am genuine. I can assure Cantello Rocket that I have no connection with Laughing Wolf or any other Wolves fan. I have supported the Albion all my life my first hero being Ronnie Allen so that will give you some idea of the timescale. As for being negative or critical of the club I have in the past hopefully made some positive contributions to this site which have been acknowledged by yourself Bully and others. This site is always full of constructive comments from real Albion fans but I do think that we over react to the regular excursions into this site by Wulfies. I think we maybe should look at the bigger picture and realise that there are things more important than the traditional rivalry. That rivalry was white hot many years ago when the two clubs competed at the top of the league and the issue was not who would survive. Lets set our sights on cementing our place in the premier league and looking at the higher end of the table rather than a constant struggle for survival. I may be being negative but I cannot see much evidence of that this season with the initial impetus of Roy Hodgson’s arrival being dissipated by a lack of desire to attract some real quality to the club and injuries to some of our best players.
Finally I am sorry if Rocket did not add Grumpy to his prefix but someone else did just after the Villa game. Hopefully Rocket you will now accept that I am a genuine supporter just like you but one who probably goes back goes back further than you do. This is my real problem. I can remember the great times and find it difficult to accept second best although I know the football world has changed.
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56 TRBH
You make a powerful intelligent defence of Mr Ashworth. I notice however you do not mention his failures like Moore , Carson , Zuiverloon , Valero etc . Also Megson, Robson , Mowbray and Di Matteo left the club citing differences with the hierachy of which Dan Boy is most certainly involved. Hodgson’s body language this season suggest’s all is not well in the camp ,is there meddling from above again ?.
It must be difficult for Football men to take orders from a bloke who never played pro football and speaking personally the idea of a Sporting Director making Football decisions without a background in the game, leaves me very sceptical.What actually qualifies this man to make these decisions.
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Wall Heath
Jose Mourinho has not played football at any great level, he wasn’t a bad coach though?? Similarly Arsene Wenger’s CV before entering management paled into insignificance compared to his peers. Took further, none of us must know diddly squat in comparison to any of them given we’re merely observers from the outside, in which case all our opinions are invalid.
In Ashworth’s defence, he’s seemingly been responsible for some excellent buys and if anything probably smooths the link between the manager and the seemingly disagreeable JP. Both have also overseen our most successful period in a long time, so they can’t be that poisonous surely??
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Has anybody seen this morning that Stephen Ward’s signed a new long-term contract at Wolves?
With some of the big vultures lurking for his signature, that’ll mean if/when he does go onto bigger and better things, it’ll only be for megabucks. Good business from Wolves you have to say…..
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Wall Heath
To address your post 59, my understanding is Ashworth doesn’t give orders to anybody, he answers to JP and communicates with RH on what RH wants and what JP tells him. I could be wrong though.
If anything, he’s probably more knowledgable about football than JP, which might be beneficial when it comes to boardroom decisions??
Moore- was he not offered as part of Davies deal?
Valero- Mowbray picked out in friendly vs Mallorca?
The two you mention above- Mulumbu and Olsson- he must’ve had some input into?? Jara, Tamas, Shorey, Cech, Tchoyi, Odemwingie….not all world beaters, but not all bad signings either??
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All this talk of a new manager goes right over my head,Roy’s our leader, full stop.
Let me attempt too stop some of the Negative speculation, Nigel Pearson will never return to WBA as long as Jeremy Peace in Chairman,FACT!
All the previous managers you mentioned be Max left the club because of differences with JP fact!
not DA.
Max.
I sending you an emergency prescription to tide you over till I return for my Christmas holidays on the 19:12:11.
Dan Ashworth makes no final decisions, he does all the ground work on players available then if they are acceptable to the manager and in JP’s price range,he goes to do the preliminary negotiations knowing JP’s limit.
Adéu
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WARREN
The chosen one and Wenger are good examples , although Wenger played lower league football in France i believe. However most Managers have played pro football at some stage , no doubt you will name a raft of them who have not LOL.
Mowbray never wanted Moore or Carson and i know this to be true because Tony told me himself , i will not bore you with the details.Which begs the question how many more decision’s does Danny make that the Manager is unaware of ?.
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Max.
You’re displaying that wonderful quality that makes so many of us jealous, hindsight that is. There’s an old saying that ‘the man who never made a mistake never did anything.’ So many of us are in the enviable position of saying we should buy him or him but we are never tested on this. It would be tedious if yet again I ran through Dan’s signings that we’ve all drooled over (look at some other squads around us and the money they’ve spent if you don’t believe me.)
Now your list.
Moore was part of the Davies deal which proved a good one, many people myself included felt there was a player in there somewhere. Okay we were wrong.
Carson we’ll just have to agree to differ.
Zoov started off like a rocket and we were all excited about him (tell me you weren’t) but for some reason went off the boil.
Valero unfortunately couldn’t settle here but has since got into the best international team in the world and we made a profit on him. Failure????
As for managers. I didn’t include Davies in Dan’s finds as he wasn’t there at the time for the same reason I’d rule out his part in Robson or Megson departing as I believe he wasn’t there.
Mowbray went for his ‘Dream Job’ not because of any problem with our hierarchy.
RDM was down to the need to keep our PL place, some of us disagreed at the time but would you really have been forgiving of DA and JP if we’d kept him and gone down?
Finally where does this ‘taking orders’ come from, you make him sound like some crazed dictator. I don’t think he plays any part in telling the manager what tactics he should use or the players how to play. He is our Mr Fixit a job he does very well.
But inevitably I find myself agreeing with you. Let’s get back to the golden days of Trevor Summers, you knew where you were with a shed manufacturer giving the orders.
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61 Warren.
There’s been a bit of a love in going on lately between Stephen Ward and the Wolves fans but as day follows night the first bad game he has will be greeted by the faithful like vultures on a dying zebra. Especially if the one game winning streak comes to an end.
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64 Max.
I wasn’t one but many on here raised the fact that if Mowbray had been given his head we’d have fielded ten 5’6″ midfielders, nobody’s perfect.
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PS Max.
According to the ‘Transfer Rumours’ Chelsea are taking an interest in that Spanish flop.
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58 Robin Brittain-
I tried to explain in a post (that was for some reason blocked) that I’ve seen you on here for a long period of time,and believe you are a genuine fan,but also believe someone else came on here under your username yesterday to have a ‘pop’ at me,and the only person to use the term ‘Cantello grumpy’ is an unwanted visitor on here that we can’t get rid of.
I’m sorry if it offended you in any way,and just hope this trouble making idiot eventually goes away.
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Appy was my type of player, as was mcinnes. & the 2 of them are gaining fantastic experience in the championship. If it works out we may see them in charge here 1 day. And I wouldn’t moan at that both love the albion. But for now ill keep getting behind roy, improvement needed but we will be fine. Boing boing
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69 You cant even admit it when your wrong,it was you and you know it,its just that you been caught out,hope you have learnt your lesson.
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I do not know who to answer first , so i will conclude with these thoughts . If anyone really believes that the Manager reports to Ashworth who then speaks to Jez and Dan does not put his fourpenneth in are naive at best.
I suggest some of you have a long hard look at Hodgson and then tell me he is a happy man. He was at the end of last season but since the transfer window closed all as not been well , lack of signings ?, interference from above ?.
If Ashworth is just a communication tool between Hodgson and Peace, why not save a wage, Roy could then report directly , to many cooks can spoil the broth.
I hope that the faith some have in Peace and Ashworth is well placed but i have a horrible feeling if the truth about how the Albion are really run came out , some would be sorely disappointed.
58 ROBIN BRITTAIN
Top post mate .
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wouldent it be easier for you lot to txt each other then maybe someone else could have a go on here.
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64 and 65 Max and Bully.
Couldnt help but notice the times of your posts.
Hope you did them while observing two minutes silence.
LEST WE FORGET.
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WHB
I’d love to hear the Tony Mowbray story, perhaps it’s one for hearing over a pint of Bathams.
As for JP and DA. I don’t know what they’re like as people or what decisions they have/haven’t influenced, but I do know this:
Given our turnover, profit/loss, net reserves/debt and the size of our club and it’s footballing success in relative terms when considering all those, we’re one of the best performing clubs in the country, so we could certainly do a lot worse than JP and DA.
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67 and 68 TRBH
It must be wonderful always being right. If you look at what i wrote instead of putting your own angle on it , i stated Mowbray did not want Moore or Carson , on that matter he turned out to be right , i was not saying he was a good manager or not.
As for Valero , well he was a great signing for us was he not , no assists , no goals and when we were relegated he could not wait to get back to Spain , quoting he was homesick.I presume is dislike of England will disappear when he goes to moneybags Chelsea ?.
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TRBH
Having read CR78′s post above about their upcoming fixtures, I don’t think we’ll have to wait long before Wolves’ winning streak comes to an end!!
Re: your post about TM fielding a team of 5ft 6 midfielders. He almost did in that crucial must-win, relegation 6-pointer in mid-February at home to Newcastle, the one we lost 3-2. I still wince when I think about that line-up, a midfield of Kim, Valero, Koren and Morrison…..
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On another note, well done to the club for sending another player off to international duty with a satchel full of Gold Label.
That’s Mulumbu, Tamas, Odemwingie and Jara who’ve annoyed their international bosses in the past 12 months.
Great news for us, we won’t lose any players to international friendlies/tournaments and any injuries picked up in them. Next target: Olsson.
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So we’ve gone from a story about Appy taking over at Pompey and deduced between us that the players are unhappy with Roy, Roy is unhappy with the players, Roy will retire, Roy will also become England manager and that we desperately need to start looking for a completely new management team ASAP.
Doesn’t anyone think that all this is a bit ridiculous. Appy took the Pompey job because it is a promotion in a personal sense and gives him the chance to lead a club. Roy probably won’t retire because he will still see the club as a work in progress and still won’t feel that he exorcised the Liverpool demon just yet. He probably also will not be taking the England job not because he wouldn’t accept it but because it’s one of the most well paid coaching jobs in the world and we all know how much the FA like Harry and we all know how much Harry likes money.
Of course I am also blindly predicting outcomes I can’t possibly know just like you lot. So why don’t we all just relax and get behind the team against Bolton instead of creating a phantom panic like the Wolves have successfully done down at the Mol for years.
Boing Boing
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74 LONE
I lost a Cousin in the Falklands mate , so i observed the two minute silence and was not on here talking my usual rubbish but thanks for asking.
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Lonely.
I was typing my post while listening to the radio and when the two minute silence came up I observed it as I do every year and will again on Sunday. Although my post is registered at 11-01 I didn’t press submit comment until after the silence was ended on Radio4 and yes before you ask I did have Woman’s Hour on.
I hope this was said in jest as I’ve always been a defender of yours but find this post more than a little insulting if for no other reason those that have died did so to give us the freedom to decide whether or not we observe the silence or any other democratic rights.
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78,Warren
Do you think that all those players have upset Roy as well ?
Tamas & Jara are out in the cold,Oddy has been on the bench this season and Mulumbo was not in the five man midfield against Arsenal.Food for thought as a few have stated that there have been some rumblings in the dressing room.
I blame Ashworth,he scouted all of them.
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79, baggieinmanc I agree 100%, everyone is panicking on the back of 2 defeats against Liverpool and Arsenal. Poor displays yes, but not reasons to sack the Head Coach.
Calm down dears, it’s just a commercial!
Boing Boing!!
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76 Max.
I don’t think I always claim to be right but I am guilty of putting my angle on what you say because I can’t think of any other way of commenting.
Before you say that though have a look at your own post at 72. Is that not putting an angle on something that you don’t know for a fact? It reads like an episode of Dallas with JP as the domineering Jock, Dan Ashworth as the evil JR and Roy as poor little put upon Bobby.
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Wall Heath Baggie have noted some of your comments about how the season has gone so far.When you looked at the fixtures how many points would you have thought we would have at this stage of the season.Mine was 11 or 12. ok we have not played well the last 2 weeks but the next 5 games will make or break our season some of your comments regarding our current manager makes me think you live too close to Wolverhampton
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baggieinmanc.
Thanks for the most sensible post of the week.
I sit and read in disbelieve and despair some times,we’ll have the bingo callers back before long,you know,4:4:2.4:5:1.4:4:2.5:3+half:1+half.
I can only offer a partial defence of mar mate Max,I know for a fact that he is running low on his medication.
Adéu
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84 TRBH
Bobby was in a dream though mate and Roy is in the middle of a nightmare .
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Anybody interested, there is an excellent thought provoking blog by Tim Spiers on the Wolves site. I’ve often poked fun at Tim but this is good work.
How would people feel if this was proposed at our ground? It would be difficult to do but perhaps we need something like this to make the powers that be sit up and take notice of us. They are fond of saying they don’t really need our money but let’s see Sky sell the PL if games had no atmosphere.
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play nicely else i’ll take your i-phones off you…
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Baggieinmanc/Shropshire
I agree in essence with what you’re both saying, but I don’t think anybody has said sack the manager (WHB suggestion aside) or that Roy will become England manager (just that perhaps it’s a reason he’s not yet committed his long-term future if in his own mind it’s a target of his…unlikely as it may be). I’m sure we’ll all be there against Bolton getting behind the team.
Streetly
Absolutely, get Ashworth out!!
On a serious note, it’s a possibility. In the cases of Mulumbu and Odemwingie, if we’re honest, both are top-half Prem players, so in a way if both had flawless characters, both probably would be playing for top-8 clubs.
I guess a club like ours has to take the odd risk with character e.g. with Odemwingie’s ‘injury’ record and Tamas’s reputation as a bad boy.
Inside Man seemed to suggest last week that Mulumbu being dropped was due to him not carrying out specific instructions. Odemwingie can have a lazy streak that I imagine would infuriate Roy. He dropped PO in favour of Fortune when he first came in, presumably on the basis of workrate. It worked then, PO came back in a rich vein of form, let’s hope dropping Mulumbu and Tchoyi is more a case of positive man-management rather than being indicative of a deeper problem.
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STOURBAGGIE
Your right i may live a bit to close to Wolverhampton but i give my opinions and if people do not like them , well that is their perogative.
KEV
Perhaps the medication comments are wearing a bit thin mate, i do not need anyone defending me or watching my back , i am ugly enough and old enough to look after myself.
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if you needed a ‘flawless character’ to play for a top 8 team, half the top 8 wouldn’t be able to put a team out Warren!
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Sherlock
You don’t need one if you’re as good as Rooney or Van Persie. But you do if you’re Youssouf Mulumbu or Peter Odemwingie……
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Max.
I just thought I’d try and stop you going any deeper with that hole your digin’ for yourself, you’ll soon be slaggin’ Aussie rules off.
Tranquilo son,I can tell your lashing out willy nilly,you left the Super off.
Are you sure you want me to cross you off my list off patients? It’ gunna play havoc with my £250,000 a year.
Adéu
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92 sherlock.
Very funny, more so because it’s very true as well.
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55) TRBH, We will have to disagree on this one my friend, any manager who can get three wins and a draw out of four games with a team that was going no where can wear a pink tu tu and sling backs for interviews has far as I’m concerned!
63) Kev, I was merely stating my choice of Pearson “if” we needed to appoint an assistant, along with every one else’s two pen’orth, I don’t expect him to return anytime soon, there may well be problems between Pearson and JP, during his tenure, has there been any managers at the Hawthorns he hasn’t riled at some point? but, I have always thought of JP has being a pragmatist, the same as with all successful, hard nosed businessman, so if he felt he was the right guy for the job I’m sure it would be offered.
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you don’t need one if you’re as good as Carlos Tevez either i s’pose?
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WONOH
He was also an intrinsic part of the coaching staff under Robson that led us to play the most uninspiring, apathetic brand of football we’d played for many a year.
Don’t get me wrong, I like the guy, but if we’re honest, that team with Davies, Kamara, Koumas, Greening, Phillips etc should’ve been winning 3 out of every 4 games in that division. Also his managerial achievements since? Taking Leicester up when they were favourites to go up, going down with So’ton and guiding Hull to mid-table?
I’d say he’s some way short of being a leading candidate yet. That’s just a personal opinion, but I think sometimes we let 2-weeks as caretaker cloud our judgement. From memory John Trewick was a good caretaker, he got sacked by Hereford last season…..
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Sherlock
Manchester City are in a league of their own and as such big players are expendable.
If Peter Odemwingie played 40 games a season and ran his socks off every week, chances are he wouldn’t be playing for us.
I’m fairly sure you know what I’m talking about and I’m not even sure you disagree, just sounds like you like a quip/debate….
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98) Warren, that is a very fair point about him being part of the Robson regime, however, this can only lead to two conclusions. Firstly, either he was not such a big part player when Robo had the reigns has we believed, or, Robo had totally lost the plot, and the players capable of winning were there all along, but just wouldn’t do it under Robo.
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WONOH
You got me slightly wrong,it wouldn’t matter if JP offered him £5million a year and the name of his hairdresser, Pearson wouldn’t take it.
Warren
I think you’ve done him a disservice there mate,didn’t we play some great football while he was caretaker after Robson left? it might be my memory playing tricks,but that’s an age thing.
I don’t know why I’m joining in on this theme as I’ve said, Roy’s our leader, full stop and I for one am quite happy with our position at the moment considering we haven’t really hit top form.
Adéu
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warren, sorry if it seems i was being picky there, but first you told me that mulumbu and odemwingie would be good enough for the top 8 if they had flawless characters, and then that you don’t need a flawless character to play in the top 8, and then my head began to hurt.
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Max and Bully,
the Management (don’t mention that word!!) of The Robin,Bilston,contacted me today to express their concern about our recent conversations,in which arrangements were made for the two of you to meet up on the 20th anniversary of their famous club.
They have grave doubts about the wisdom of such a meeting,because they wish to celebrate their 21st year the following April,and feel that the night of Kev’s birthday could result in the building being reduced to rubble,with louder explosions than on the night of the famous Dudley earthquake.
And The Soul Survivors may be in their 25th year,but they might not survive the night.
I’ve assured them everyone will be on their best behaviour,so I have to put my trust in you two,because the management are now holding me personally responsible.
If you let me down,I may be taking a long holiday,probably in Mallorca,hiding in someone’s donkey sanctuary.
(p.s.- Bully,part of the deal is that I’ll turn up at The Robin for The Hamsters next friday night,to keep an eye on you,so hopefully I’ll see you there-be on your best behaviour).
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Rocket.
I’m probably the most layed back bloke in the world and what little aggression I have comes out on here, I’m sure Max is the same and I think/hope that we understand each other and our spats are strictly tongue in cheek. Anyway after years of going to the Robin I’m on nodding terms with Mike Hamblett and can therefore vouch for Max (although he may have to hand his chainsaw in at the cloakroom.)
If you’re definitely going let me know during the week and we can arrange to carry a rolled up copy of the Times and wear a red carnation or something. Looking forward to seeing you although I’m nervous now that you won’t think the Hamsters are as good as I’ve built them up. Robert Cray did say about him ‘Slim is one of my children’ so not a bad bloke to have a testimonial from.
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104 Bully,
I was out and about yesterday,so I caught up on the ‘activity’ later,then realised I’d missed a slightly ‘heated debate’ with half the guys on here,but as always,my post was a bit tongue in cheek.
I had a few ding-dongs with Max on here some time back,but when we met face to face we got on really well.
He has his strong opinions,that I still often disagree with,but at least he says what he thinks rather than agreeing with everyone just to be popular,like some some guys I know personally.
The bottom line is that despite the passion we have,it’s still only a game,and there’s more important things in life.
I’m sure when you do meet up,you’ll get on fine together.
As for friday,it’s my Mother’s birthday,and as she lives near the Hawthorns rail station,I plan to visit her,then jump on the Metro,it takes about 15 min. to get to Bilston from there.
I’ll probably get back to you later in the week,but if not,I know what to do-
watch out for someone who DOESN’T look like Derek Kevan.
(I’ve listened to The Hamsters on the net,and like what I’ve heard,so no worries,I tend to enjoy myself whatever.
Just as long as we don’t get a ‘Richie Blackmore’,who goes into a strop and walks off stage).
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cantello78, is that what you said last season, about wwfc down before the tinsel?
and warren, greg halford joining a bigger club than wwfc, confirms that albion are bigger than wwfc???, for god sake grow up.
the biggest club ever in the history of football is the one and only caledonian thistle. END OF.
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106 big cyrille?-
just a piece of friendly advice-
if you have a nap in the afternoon,then wake up and go straight on a computer,try not to write about what you’ve just been dreaming of-
because you end up writing rubbish that’s based on your own distorted perceptions,and no one else can understand it.
Have a cup of coffee,it might help.
(And I don’t want to alarm you,but you’re not really Big Cyrille).
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