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West Brom star Paul Scharner brands Liverpool striker Luis Suarez ‘a diver’
Monday 31st October 2011, 11:31AM GMT.
West Brom midfielder Paul Scharner today branded Liverpool striker Luis Suarez a diver – and revealed fears of a lengthy injury lay-off.
The Baggies man will head for scans on a worrying knee ligament injury today still fuming over Liverpool’s controversial ninth-minute penalty in their 2-0 Hawthorns win on Saturday.
The Austria international, who was upset at Suarez’s response to Jerome Thomas’s challenge, fears he suffered serious damage when landing awkwardly in the second-half.
He said: “It is knee problem. It is ligament damage. After the match it looked terrible and it hurt a lot. But, hopefully, the results of the scan will not be as bad as I’m thinking at the moment.”
The 30-year-old blasted Suarez, who angered him by tumbling after making contact with Thomas. Referee Lee Mason initially dismissed penalty appeals but then award a spot-kick on the advice of linesman Gary Beswick.
Scharner said: “It was a nice dive for the penalty. He is very good at winning penalties. He’s one of the best on the planet, in fact. If that’s a penalty, then you will find 1,500 penalties are given in every match.”
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i think the 1,500 figure is a bit of an exaggeration
i hope the injury’s not too serious, ligament damage has been known to keep a player out for anything up to 3 million years
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My first reaction to the tackle was that it was a penalty. Then I watched it again and I thought Suarez made a meal of the challenge but that it was still a penalty.
I’ve tried looking for a Thomas touch on the ball as he goes in but it looks like Suarez nutmegs Thomas who’s momentum carries him into the player. I’d say it was a poor challenge that didn’t need to be made personally but hopefully Roy kicks up a stink like Pulis did last year and we can look forward to the same decisions Stoke got off the back of his whinging. Still proud of the lads but a little annoyed at our increasing injury list and the lack of protection from refs.
boing boing
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What A whinging prat, no doubt it was a foul, only decision was if the guy got a touch.
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no-one thought is was a dive, even his manager, he just thought it was a soft decision from the officials, which i have to say maybe it was.
But Luis didn’t chase the REF down and demand the pen, infact he look quizical at the ref pointing to the spot as if to ask are you sure. Midweek Luis gets a knock staying on his feet trying to score, and still get called a diver, sorry no way.
Why the big fuss anyway, we should have had another pen for clear handball about 10 minutes after the first one. So one soft pen given, one nailed on pen not.
maybe Schamer is think Slur Red Nose will buy him if he agrees with him in the media
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i sit in the woodman corner,and it was the clearest dive ive seen in a long time.beswick is either a liverpool fan,or incompetent.
to be fair tough we got what we deserved,nothing.liverpool looked average and we were dreadful.
shame about scharners injury,lets hope its short term.we look stronger defensivley with scharner in centre midfield.luckily we have some other good options in midfield.
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WEATHER IT WAS A PENALTY OR NOT BAGGIES WERE NOT UP TO THE JOB RIGHT FROM THE KICK OFF, SECOND BEST AND THATS IT SIMPLE I DONT LIKE TO SAY IT THOUGH, SLUGGISH, SLOW TO READ THE LIVERPOOL PASSES, LOOKED VERY STIFF LEGGED AS POOL RAN US RAGGED.
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ODDY THIS YEAR HE S NOT EVEN HALF THE PLAYER HE WAS LOOKS LIKE A BIT OF ATTITUDE TO ME, IT WAS A 0 2 THRASHING PUT IT TO BED AND MOVE ON WITH BETTER MINDS !!!
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5 NEW BROSELEY
Got the address of a good optician when your ready.
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We made an average Liverpool side look average by such a poor performance.We where well off the pace of the ganme.
Still 6 points from last 9 is ok think we would have settled for that, and we beat the sides we needed/wanted too.
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An obvious dive in my opinion. Suarez made sure he tripped over Thomas’s leg he was using to push on. Thomas had his back to Suarez when Suarez made contact and fell over. How come neither referee or Liverpool players signalled for a spot kick?. Scharner is 100% correct. Anyone who has ever played football should agree with Scharner.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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Wall Heath,
Take your white stick with you next match mate.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~~JtH.
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Billy!,
You were probably listening to the reds fans, unless you were still in Dinglehampton.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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Spot penalty unfortunately too many get given. Suarez is a good player but is a cheat he was responsible for a bad foul later in the game and feined an injury to avoid a booking. Thomas needs to up his game as does Odemwingie this season both have been poor.
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10 JACK THE HAT
Will do and perhaps a pair of Blue and White blinkers as well. Call it as i see it mate , thought it was a penalty live at the ground and i have seen nothing to change my mind on the TV.Suarez may or may not be a diver but it would have been a free kick outside the box.
Anyway at the end of the day our performance overall was not good enough and that is why we lost. Supporters can bury their heads in the sand all they like and make excuses, i guess some just cannot face the truth.
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Max.
You’re at it again aren’t you. Can’t argue that it was our worst performance for a long time but if you think that was a penalty I think you’ve missed your nose and poked your finger in the eye.
On the performance, why do we seem to be so bad under lights for the last few seasons. I can barely remember us winning or even putting in a decent performance under lights.
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12 Simon.
Spot on. A horrible little man, possibly the new Maradonna. At least he’s at the right club.
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wall heath.no idea where you sit,but if you think that suarez did not drop down on both knees as if he was shot,you must of been watching a different game.never a penalty in a million years.even suarez did not appeal,neither did any pool players or fans.that tell its own story.jack is correct,you need a white stick.
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Perhaps a little harsh based simply on Saturday’s game, though undoubtedly justified in general (his general antics were disgraceful against Man Utd).
I hope this sense of injustice isn’t being used to disguise what was ultimately a terrible performance. We didn’t lose because of a dubious penalty. We lost because there was no energy, desire, or skill throughout the team. We were bereft of ideas going forward and second best throughout.
Let’s learn from this one and move on….
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14 TRBH.
that’s a good point.i can not remember our last good performance under flood lights.i was hoping roy would put gera on and that that may raise the players game a bit.
question,who is the biggest diver in the prem,DROGBA or SUAREZ.even KLINSMANN would struggle to beat those 2.
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Simon
Are you refering to the collision when luis slipped and then had the West Brom player fall on him.
If it was such a bad foul, why weren’t all the WBA player screeming for him to be sent off or booked? They didn’t cuase they could see, like everyone else in the grough and at home, luis slipped.
It was so not a big thing that GOS didn’t include it.
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Liverpool wanted it more than us,passed and moved better
Bit of a soft penalty,doubt if we would have got one for the same thing
But we’d probably have missed it anyway
Wish peeps would make up their minds what they want,when we were playing with 5 in middle they wanted 4 now they are calling for 5 again
Maybe with Long out we should revert to 5
Would like to know how Thomas got MOTM
Thought Foster should have had a sniff
BAGGIESBAGGIESBAGGIES
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18 NBB – Steven Gerrard i the biggest diver in the Premiership.
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Can’t think who it was now, we had a player booked for going in with his knees, his boots were behind him. Tell me that player meant to go in like that. Someone refresh my memory. Again well played lads, with the dice loaded against us.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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Well i’m not gonna say it was a dive or anything…but on the way to the bar in the busy Wagon & Horses i brushed past several punters none of which fell to the floor that i noticed.
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17 TB.
I don’t think any of us would try to argue that it was anything other than a pitiful performance. So bad that it made what is a fairly ordinary Liverpool team look better than they are. I think all the players as well as the fans that have been on here have admitted as much.
As for Suarez. I’d like to see players and managers from opposing teams ‘out’ him very publicly every time he dives so that he gets a reputation with referees and every time he goes down it is treated with a pinch of salt.
I hate cheats and it somehow seems much worse when it’s a player with his obvious talent that doesn’t need to.
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Max.
So that was a penalty but Hutton’s tackle on Long wasn’t even worth a free kick and Berra’s WWF assault on Olsson wasn’t a penalty.
I think you could have a big future as a PL referee. The money’s b****y fantastic and you don’t need to pass a sight test or have any sense of fairplay or anything like that.
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TRBH
Personally i think fans who continually blame the Ref for their teams downfall are whistling in the wind ( and no that is not the proper terminology).
Is the pay anygood for Prem Refs ????
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Max.
To use the old quote ‘if you promise to stop telling lies about me I won’t tell the truth about you’ or at least the first half of it anyway.
I challenge you to find one post where I’ve used the officials to pretend that Saturday was anything other than a dire performance by our team. But as I’ve alluded to on another thread the fact that we were rubbish does not excuse the perennial bias of officials towards the ‘big’ clubs, especially the ones whose managers have big mouths and drive a coach and horses through the FA’s ‘Respect’ policy.
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Like it or not – it was quite definately a penalty,- soft maybe,but a penalty never the less. IT WAS ACTUALLY ‘OBSTRUCTION’,and that is a FOUL,therefore it was a penalty!
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28, dave.
Can’t be obstruction mate, as the player being obstructed must be, in the refs opinion, still in control of the ball. Suarez was not in control of the ball so any opposing player was entitled to, by fair means, get his body between Suarez and the ball and gain control for himself. You will see countless examples of it every game when defenders shepherd the ball out for goalkicks by blocking off the attacker who will be deemed to not be in control of the ball, even if he has only slightly over run the ball.
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29 BFTRBC.
Spot on except that usually when the ball is being shepherded out the player behind doesn’t throw himself to the ground because he’d look silly. The fact that Suarez did this ended with that little twerp of a linesman making himself look silly unfortunately to our cost.
Boththe pens at Stoke last night were deemed ‘soft’ but both were ten times worse than Thomas’ vicious scything down of Suarez.
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28 Dave-
you seem to have defined this incident as ‘Obstruction’.
Can I just ask your advice?
In the game at Anfield last season,every time Albion had a corner,Skrtel wrapped his arms around Olsson’s waist,and on one occasion,as the ball came across,Skrtel did the same thing (so that Olsson was powerless to move),then fell on top of him,pinning him to the ground,inches from the line,in the centre of goal.
Needless to say,the Ref. waved every appeal away,but what I want to know is-
what is the technical term for this type of challenge,and can I find it in a martial arts book of Aikido?
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4 Billy (LFC Fan)-
the same question that I’ve just asked Dave from 28…………?
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32) That must have been why the Stoke goal stood, Foster was obviously obstructing Shotton when he had the audacity to dive for it and hold it in both his hands!
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