Simon Cox would consider loan move
Thursday 23rd September 2010, 11:29AM BST.
Albion striker Simon Cox has admitted he could be tempted by a loan move away from the Hawthorns.
But the Baggies forward, who struck a clinical winner last night in the Carling Cup against Manchester City, insisted he is happy to fight for his place if boss Roberto Di Matteo wants to keep him.
A host of Championship clubs are keeping tabs on the 23-year-old, who is on the fringes of Albion’s Premier League squad.
However, Di Matteo is believed to be reluctant to loan Cox at present with Chris Wood having today joined Barnsley on loan.
Cox said: “I am very happy to stay and fight but, if opportunities don’t come along, I am not one just to sit and be happy and pick up money.
“I want to make a name for myself, so if that means going out and playing regular first-team football in the Championship then that is something I would have to look at.
“But at this moment in time I am very happy to fight. Me and the manager haven’t had a talk about me going and I stated from minute one this year that I was going to fight for a place.
“If someone does come in and shows genuine interest to take me on loan I would think about it, because opportunities are few and far between at the moment.
“But I am quite happy to work hard in training, do my stuff in games like last night and show what I can do.
“If I can get in the team that way then fine, but if I can’t get into the team then a loan is something I might have to look at.”
Cox struck the second-half winner as a much-changed Baggies side defeated a second-string City team to reach the last 16 of the Carling Cup.
And the £1.5million man believes a Baggies team that featured 10 changes from the weekend win over Birmingham made a statement.
He said: “We went out there with no fear and we had to prove ourselves, because the lads that were out there don’t get many chances as they would like.
“Last night was a showcase for them to put their case forward to the manager.
“This is a time when we players who aren’t playing regular first-team football have to stand up and be counted and show the manager that we are still here as well.
“I think there were 11 performances out there that gave given the manager and headache, maybe not for Saturday but for the up and coming games.”
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I really like Simon Cox – he plays with commitment and enthusiasm and has proven he knows where the goals are…
He may be a victim of our current strength in depth but I think he is pushing Miller and Bednar for a place on the bench.
If he does go out on loan i hope its short term (maybe to xmas) and he gets the chance to come back and push for a place !!
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I think Simon Cox has the abiliy to do a job for us in the premiership. At the very least we will need the cover as the year stretches on. Miller has had the best part of a season and a half away and will take time to prove his worth. I think we under-rate his ability and that is clear from his goal scoring record in the championship.
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HB – think most people like Cox – gives his all. I do have questions about his ability though for this level. His first touch isn’t good enough in my opinion.
A loan move would benfit him – like with Woods, he needs games. Would be very surprised if RDM let him go out on loan though.
Great to see Tchoyi make such an impact last night – could be very useful when we play the more physical sides such as Stoke and Bolton. Pace and Power……something we have been lacking
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I agree Happy I like Simon Cox, always gives 100% but is a victim of the squad we now have. I personally would rather see Miller go out on loan than Cox and have Cox on the bench. Miller hasn’t looked sharp after his long lay off and a loan spell for 3 months may be better for Miller at this stage.
It’s all going really well at the moment just hope we can keep it going.
Boing Boing
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beeover – actually fans seem a bit split on simon cox and i have read plenty of posts on here saying he aint good enough….
….in fact your post is a bit like that too – you say you “like” him, but then say you question his ability at this level.
I was making the point that i think he is good enough to be a back up at this level and could rival Bednar and Miller for a place on the bench.
He offers something a little different to those players, and i don’t mind his first touch if his second puts it in the net !!
Agree with you about Tchoyi though – great find !
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Romsley – good shout mate…. Miller needs games and a spell on loan could be good for him. Don’t know if he would go out though.
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I am pleased all the team played with comitment last night and it was good to see the players who are fighting to get in the first team all played well and gave a good contribution of themselves.Good luck to us in the next round lets hope we get a nice easy home tie.
Well done lads nice to see goals going in and well done to simon cox took his goal well.
“Up The Baggies”
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At a time when everyone in the squad seem to be playing well it is difficult to keep them all happy. Some good players can’t even get on the bench. However when you look at the injuries Man City have got and consider the size and quality of their squad you have to be careful that not too many players are loaned. It is still quite difficult to see where goals will come from a regular basis especially if Odemwingie is out of the side for whatever reason. For this reason I would keep Simon Cox because he is a natural goalscorer. I feel very sorry for Ishmael Miller who has had a dreadful run of injuries. I am sure that the club will nurse Ishmael back to full fitness and hopefully he will be contributing again in the near future.
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Simon Cox did more than give his all last night. He had a fine game, making just one real error all 90 minutes as did several others. In my book he would be perfectly acceptable in the team as long as we allowed him time to settle and you know he would pop in a winner or two as well because this kid can shoot. Properly I mean, not just hit it hard in direction of goal, rising all the time, finally landing in row Z. He bends whatever part of his body is needed to keep the shot down. He’s realised he has to ‘force the issue’ to be amongst the chosen few and that’s another step forward. Chris Wood, it’s different. He needs to see how others do it at other clubs to develop his match skills.
Cox has done that bit. The coaching we have now is so good I’d be surprised if he actually WANTED to go on loan. Does anyone think, as I do, we are beginning to look quite fearsome at home. I was in sheer bliss at some of our tackling and sprayed, accurate passes.
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5 Happy.
I agree with you. Cox seems to be the victim of ‘give a dog a bad name’ syndrome. His first touch has improved greatly since he arrived and I’m sure will continue to improve. Steve Bull and Lee Hughes also suffered with this perceived first touch problem and I agree it’s a major problem for Cox like these two when the second touch often ends up in the back of the net.
I agree that he needs game time and I think that was as much a problem with both him and Bednar last night especially in the first half. Strikers more than anyone else need to play to stay sharp. Perhaps he needs a loan but then again a couple of quick injuries and we’ll be regretting it.
Who’d be a manager?
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I know it’s naughty but I’ve just been over having a read on the dark side. It’s a bit like the AGM of Depressives Anonymous.
As one writer said. ‘We’ve wasted too much money on £2 mill players. Our only successes are Fletcher and Doyle, you get nowhere with £2 mill players.’
How true, Odemwingie, Scharner, Ibanez, Tchoyi, Cox, Reid, Shorey. Have I missed anyone?
Another sound theory expounded over there. ‘How can you throw a lot of second string players together and expect them to gel?’
Over to you to explain that one RDM.
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Bully,
Allow me to answer for Roberto as he would be a little embarrassed. What you need is a top class head coach. Also a talented scouting
system. Something you can’t have if your only strength is to clog and spend £7,000,000 on
average players.
~~~~BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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If money guaranteed success, Man.City would win every match from here on in. How much are their owners worth? I read THREE TRILLION Squid at takeover time. Yet our reserves outplayed their reserves comprehensively last night. I doubt our Official First Team would have done much better. The difference in attitude over on the ‘dark side’ is stability and expectation. Some of them still think they are a big club as they were back in the 50s. Just ain’t so any more. Swallow hard, accept it as we have had to. Accrington Stanley were one of the 12 founder members of the Football League. Arsenal were not.
It’s fair to say that but for Stevie Bull (who loved winding us up when he scored but no one got hurt as a result), probably saved Wolves from extinction. I think Graham Turner was the successful manager at the time. Look how much loyalty he got once he’d worked his miracles. Many of those posters are depressed because their image is tainted by Tuesday evening added to the hammering they got by the Press and TV recently. They’re lashing out at anyone. I feel sorry for MicMac. He deserves loyalty for what he’s done for them.
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11 TRBH- It takes me back to Sir Jack giving wolves over 60 million of his own money,but when successive managers failed to achieve anything,wolves fans were phoning local radio stations saying their benefactor should stump up a few million more.Eventually he left after receiving disgraceful abuse from some of them.A few wolves fans were bragging here a couple of months ago,saying that they had spent around 23 million on players that would bring them success,but Albion were doomed because we weren’t splashing the cash.These guys are probably now attacking their current owner.So what’s changed?
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TRBH
It was Brummierobwolves was it? He seems to have gone quiet after his “you need to spend a minimum £10m” campaign over the summer
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Nothing to do with this thread but do any of the other elder statesmen on here remember Sammy?
For the younger readers who probably aren’t the slightest bit interested anyway Sammy was a bit of a Baggies character in the 1960′s
I remember him as being slightly behind the times dess-wise as he had a quiff and wore a black leather biker’s jacket, I think it had ALBION on the back in brass studs.
Sammy’s purpose in life was to get the BRE singing (it was unheard of back then for any other part of the ground to sing.) He would stand balancing on one of the barriers legs supported by a couple of his acolytes, facing the crowd, back to the pitch and start the songs (The Safety Committee would have kittens these days and no doubt that section of the ground would be closed down.)
Among his reperoire was ‘Zigger Zagger, Zigger Zagger’ to which the crowd would reply ‘Albion.’ Another was ‘Give me an A etc.
Does anyone know what happened to Sammy, does he still go?
A while ago I said I’d only just realised that we now have thousands of young fans that have never stood on a terrace (much to Kev in Mallorca’s amusement.) What I was really getting at was that I found it difficult to comprehend that they have no concept of what football was like in the good old days.
I know some may have gone to away grounds and stood on a decrepit few steps at a lower league club but what I meant was a terrace of 15-20,000 jam packed and swaying, what a wonderful experience when at the end of the game the crowd were more tired and sweatier than the players.
You could stand exactly where you wanted. I know the safety aspect raises it’s head but that’s all down to Hillsbro’ a one off disaster down to three things caging supporters in, inefficient policing and drunken scouse hooligans.
Quite often on the BRE as on every other terrace in the country the crowd would surge forward ending in a pile of bodies on the floor. I can’t remember anyone being seriously hurt. The kids were out of the way at the front and anyone that didn’t want to be a part of this stood over at the sides.
Happy days young uns,’ you don’t know what you missed.
Having said that I don’t miss the hooliganism that developed in the late 60′s and 70′s that seems to be rearing it’s ugly head again.
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14 CR78.
Yeah they bled him dry and and then called him a ****.
Perhaps there is a lesson there for the new owner although he’s a hard headed business man that won’t let his heart rule his head. I’m sure that when his firm have taken the money from building the new 40,000 seater stadium he will be ploughing the profit into his beloved but ailing Liverpool.
Perhaps there is also a lesson for some of our own fans. It’s good to have a Chairman that was a supporter first. It’s even better to have one that treats the club as a going concern and doesn’t allow himself to become a golden t*t.
15 Warren.
Those two things were picked up from a number of similar posts on there and I’m not sure that BRW was one of them.
Isn’t it strange though that he hasn’t been over here lately sharing with us his pearls of wisdom from an experienced Premier League campaigner.
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I know I’m in danger of becoming addicted but I’ve just been having a read over the dark side again.
Having done so I’d like to congratulate our own two bloggers on the quality and especially the realism of their blogs.
If you don’t know what I mean go and have a look.
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I’m not one of Arsene’s biggest fans (due to his whinging not the football his team plays) but nice of him to say what he did about us. Also a lesson there for the lazy Media pundits about doing your homework.
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Bully,
Certainly do remember him. Couldn’t raise my beer glass while he was in action. Remember the old railway sleepers backfilled with soil we used to stand on?. No roof over our heads agaist the elements. Fetched our beer from under our famous throstle y’know under the score-board. Did the snow bother us?, naer.
Sammy must still be with us, otherwise we’ed see him hovering about the height the barriers used to be, facing the crowd and cheer-leading for us. Give us an A…..
~~~~BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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TRBH
Love the stories. I had the fortune of spending my childhood on the fences at the front of the BRE and remember being crushed as a teen further back in big games such as against Lou Macari’s Stoke and the Darren Bradley screamer against Wolves.
I can’t imagine what it’d have really been like for the really big games 15 years prior to that though. Had they really used to wee in each other’s pockets?! I remember people weeing everywhere else in the BRE for the busy games, but pockets???
Did anyone else find it un-nerving when you could feel the stand moving during a vigourous boing-boing?!!
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21 Jack.
Thanks for confirming he wasn’t a figment of my imagination. I remember the sleepers at the back, if it was a big crowd and you were late getting in you would dash up and try to get on the step at the back. Every time something exciting happened, the back row would be pushed off and down the step, each of which must have been a couple of feet high.
22 Warren.
I don’t remember anybody weeing in anybodies pocket deliberately but there were plenty of fights started from inappropriate urination.
I remember the old Fulham ground in the sixties. We went there in the 4th round in 68. There was about a 6 inch gap at one side of the concrete terrace and you could see the ground about thirty feet below. If the crowd jumped up and down and got the timing right the stand actually seemed to rise and fall what seemed about a foot or two, so of course the Albion fans did just that. Great fun at the time but a terrifying thought now at what might have happened.
Again the Health and Safety people would have a heart attack these days.
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anybody going to arsenal theres a costcutter just down from the ground we will be outside having a few beers n a sing song,aye boing boing
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11. Ibanez (40k a week), Reid (failed a medical at Celtic first, hasnt played), Shorey (Hardly played), Scharner (put a clause in his contract to leave if any other club comes in for him), Tchoyi (one game), Cox (wont make it at this level) can you explain how these have been a success?
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i remember in the 60s 70s we used to catch a bus from station st in walsall(dawsons coaches) to the ground i think it cost 20p return,it used to be one if those green double deckers with no doors on the back,(TRBH health n saftey)god knows how it used to get us there right old banger it was, but it never once broke down,dont think anybody went in cars those days,accept the posh uns like Cyril aye boing boing
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14. I actually read that our wage budget is far higher than Wolves. Their top earner is on 25k a week and we have 4 on 40k plus bonuses.
Two very different transfer policies and I am sure (fingers crossed) that JP has put a clause in their contracts for a reduction or release if we are relegated, we do not want to end up like Pompey.
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25 & 27 Laughing Wolf.
I think I’m on pretty safe ground today without fear of anyone telling me off (except maybe you in one of your other guises.)
Not going to have a go at you but just ask why?????????????? Surely even you must realise that an infant, educationally challenged bat would see through these cunningly disguised posts.
Please tell us your motives because for the life of me I can’t understand them.
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I think I’d better lay off a bit, looking back it seems like I’m trying to take over the world.
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26 Sir Terry.
I was lucky enough to live in Smethwick (not a sentence you expect to hear) and could walk to the ground.
On the downside we often encountered social difficulties with away fans on their way to Rolfe St Station after the game. Policing was a bit different as well in those days IE as long as no windows were being broken they took no notice.
PS From Walsall????? Were you an early glory hunter?
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Baggie Fanatic
I don’t know if you read anything over the summer about our transfer policy but JP firmly stated that money that was previously used on transfer fees would be put towards wages.
Last time we were in the Prem we spent £23m on transfer fees. This time we’ve paid higher wages- 4 players on (roughly) £20k per week higher than our top paid players last time= £4m a year. New contracts for Dorrans, Morrison, Brunt, Jara etc, probably bumped the wage bill up another couple of million, but we’ve only spent around £10m in transfer fees, so in truth we’ve probably spent slightly less this time around if anything. Also, those contracts have historically been layered (no doubt with a few relegation release clauses) to stop us doing a Pompey.
Your points re: the other players:
Ibanez- We don’t know yet, but good pedigree and reports from training.
Reid- Has played twice, arguably MOM in both games. Good cover and experience.
Shorey- Not sure if you’ve noticed but he’s played our last four games and looked solid as a rock.
Scharner- Turned down established Prem sides, looked decent without being fully fit.
Tchoyi- Skinned City full-back the other night and looks promising.
Cox- You can’t claim he won’t make it at a level you’ve never seen him play it. His only outing against Prem opposition (Tue) and he scored.
Can you explain how the above have been failures, when all have performed well when they’ve played so far? I can understand you being guarded about how decent we’re looking at the moment, but can you really say it doesn’t look as though we’ve made some good signings there? Would you prefer Barnett, Kim, Valero, McDonald and Moore? Or swap them for Wolves’ signings?
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TRBH
I think his motive is to get prats like me to respond!! I toyed with the idea of questioning his allegiance, but that seems to offend too many these days.
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Warren – I am not saying that they are failures but they havent been a great success yet and I am not fully convinced about any of them yet, it will take time.
The only Wolves players I would want in all honesty is the American keeper, Jarvis, Doyle, Fletcher and the French full-back apart from that I wouldn’t swap them.
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32. No I am not Laughingwolf by the way!
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BaggieFanatic
You’ve not been impressed with what you’ve seen? Even of say, Shorey? If you don’t think Shorey’s done well so far then I’ll have a pint of what you’re having.
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Bully
Remember him well…….Sammy Greenway.
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34 Laughing Wolf.
No of course you’re not are you.
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36 Forever.
That’s right, well remembered.
Anyone know what happened to him? I can’t remember ever seeing him much later than the early 70′s.
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Dingle,
Yeh, we’ve got a great Head Coach, scouting system and Medical team. How’s that. What have you got: M and Ms.
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Dingle,
At least we haven’t spent £13,500,000 on strikers that can’t score.
Keep up with your head-checks.
~~~~BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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25, 27, 33, 34. Laughing Wolf.
Another tip. Well done on remembering to change your name each time but remember to check the spelling as you’ve gone from Baggie Fanatic to Baggie Fantatic.
Plonker.
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I’ve told this one before. Stoke away, September 1967 (from memory), supporters all jumbled up. Albion cheer leader hoisted high, back towards the pitch, leads Baggies in ‘that cheer’ you mention. Our lot turn him round to face the pitch. A HUGE sparkling white dollop of sloppy, runny, potter’s clay hits him full in the mush and spatters over the lifting crew too. Everybody, our lot and Stoke, roared laughing. No rioting though, and the singing went on.
The Stoke luck against us was still full on. We outplayed them but it was 1-1. Then 5 mins to go, a penalty for Baggies. Banks in goal. He dived the wrong way, ball hit his toe and rocketed over the bar and past me. What did you all expect, a happy ending ?
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Sniff sniff, what’s that funny smell?
Must be a whiff of DINGLE!!!
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Baggie Fanatic, there’s not one player in Wolves squad I would want at the Albion. There’ll all be Championship players next season anyway.
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