Wolves 1 Villa 2
Sunday 26th September 2010, 4:00PM BST.
Emile Heskey snatched a dramatic 88th minute winner to give Villa victory over Wolves in the Molineux derby clash.
Villa had taken the initiative with a first half lead from Stewart Downing, only for Wolves to hit back strongly after the break and equalise with a Matt Jarvis goal.
But a peach of a header by the revitalised Heskey clinched a second successive win for new manager Gerard Houllier and sentenced Mick McCarthy’s side a third successive defeat.
Wolves had opened brightly and it needed a terrific challenge from Stephen Warnock to prevent the home side taking the lead. when Kevin Doyle played in Dave Edwards whose shot the full-back diverted wide.
But Villa slowly got on top and, after goalkeeper Marcus Hahnemann had parried away a James Collins header as the visitors’ threat gathered momentum, they took a 25th minute lead after Heskey had fed the ball out wide to Marc Albrighton.
Albrighton whipped over a tremendous cross and Downing stole through on the blind side of Wolves defence to convert the chance first time.
Wolves gathered themselves enough to force an impressive double save from goalkeeper Brad Friedel at the other end, who beat away a fierce left-footed drive from Steven Fletcher and then was up and ready to deal with Doyle’s effort on the follow-up.
But Villa’s defence were totally wrong footed in the 61st minute as Wolves built up the pressure.
They had done a good job limiting Jarvis’s impact in the game but, when the winger got the chance to curl over an in-swinging cross, Edwards’ intended challenge flummoxed Friedel – and the ball went straight into the net.
Wolves, who had lost Stephen Ward to injury before the break, sent on Adlene Guedioura for David Edwards in a last ditch attempt to win, but found it difficult to create a clear-cut opening from a defence in which Carlos Cuellar was outstanding.
Instead it was Villa who celebrated victory when Downing and the ever-threatening Ashley Young set up Warnock for a cross, which Heskey met with a brilliant header which gave Hahnemann no chance.
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irrespective of outcome this was a laboured performance. Hardly anyone emerges with credit.
More specifically Jones’ contribution to team work-where was it? Berra had lead boots; the practice of hoof ball to the forwards from the defence in the round was simply too predictable.
All, in all, shades of early last season. Desperate for pace in this team and Edwards was way off it, today.
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you have got to have a certain amount of skill to achieve in the prem and sorry dingles you seriously lacking in that department. and a manager who knows forward thinking tactics aswell aint u aint got one of those either
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Edwards and Foley were both poor. I thought as soon as Ward went over the threat down the left was stopped by Big George.
Robbed today but it never helps when you’ve got a manager that plays his favourites over and over again.
This was a championship team with three decent players in it.. I fear the worst
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Well Well Well, Wolves may feel unjust but at the end of the day this team is not good enough to stay up. Mick McCarthy is clueless to team selection. Yet again no starts for SEB, Adlene. How on earth Edwards starts above Adlene is outrageous. Headless chicken, cant pick a pass. Stephen Ward yet again was being roasted by Albrighton before he was taken off. The 1st goal was sloppy falling asleep defending by Foley! What is going on in the defence. The midfield is slow, Karl Henry does not forward pass enough. only bright sparks was Jody Craddock who was immense! Jarvis as per usual brilliant.
I am hoping the likes of Van Damme, Moloyoko, SEB, & when fit Zubar & Stephen Hunt gets into the team. I am cheesed off that we are not able to close down games. Next 2 games are MUST WIN, because we have got that nasty 4 game run afterwards which I cant see us getting a point out of it.
Lastly, Fantastic reception for Matt Murray. WOLVES LEGEND!
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Remember the good old days
When we had more points than games played?
When we scored more goals than we conceded?
What a week that was………….
Oh, is that Berra rooted to the ground making Heskey look like a footballer?
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Dear All
Championship here we come. Happy Clappers come on and say we are all wrong again, but if you look at the table, tesco’s are 6 points in front and destroyed arsenal at the emirates. Playing football with players in the right positions, unlike the shower or so and so’s i have just had to endure.
What the hell is Edwards doing on the pitch. Lets play pass it to a villa player or pass it out of play. Enough Said.
Ward, Villa struck down the right all first half as they saw ward as a weakness, how true it was.
Berra everytime he goes near the opposition he either puts his arms round them or grabs their shirt.
Henry. Plays sideways or Backwards.
MM and Clipboard, you need to have a long hard look at yourselves.
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Unfortunate outcome deserved better.However yet again defenders ball watching at crucial times too much space given allowing the cross to come over.How many more times will it be said Ward is not and never will be a left back,taken to the cleaners yet again.Team performed better once he was off.
It is becoming blatantly obvious to most observers that whilst we have a team of good honest pro’s who give their all for the cause effort cannot compete with ability over 90 minutes.Unless MM comes to terms with this fact and ditches the deadwood,Ward,Foley,Craddock Berra etc then the goals against column is going to become our nemesis.Thankfully the season is still young but 2 points from 15 is not a good start.Wigan a must win game now and a chance to get this season back on track.
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ANOTHER LOAD OF RUBBISH!!!!!!!!!
CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.
P.S… ANYBODY STILL LOOKING FORWARD TO PLAYING THE TESCOS.. NO.. THOUGHT NOT.
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I’m afraid to say it, but we are going down,our midfield is rubbish, berra,foley,ward,edwards are not premier league footballers, ok we have some injuries but we will be bottom by the time they are fit.
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If Ward plays for Wolves again the McCarthy deserves to go. I have never seen such an abysmal performance for many years. He was no more injured than the referee.
Looks very much as though we will be the POOR RELATION os the Midlands AGAIN.
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SO MANY new signings over the last 2 seasons.
WHERE ARE THEY?
MM insists on playing the championship team.
Well if he is that focused on championship football, that is where this brilliant plan will take us.
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For both Villa goals see training ground basic rules: 1) Cut out the cross 2) Dont stand there ball watching and What on earth do we do in training??? We seemed to struggle to pass the ball on the ground throughout the game Kick and Rush
We dont seem to be able to defend in the last 15 minutes of any game??? We were not robbed we deserved nothing
Matty Jarvis great goal – Edwards breaking his neck to get in the box – Matty Jarvis has a great right foot – he can pass with his left but doesnt appear to be able to cross often with his left foot
We hope for better
Up the Wolves!
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so then Happy Clappers and Mick lovers, how are you going to defend our tactical genius this week?
Yet again a goal is conceded in no small part to the undroppable Wardy not being a left back.
Despite spending pretty much £40m, 8 of the 10 outfield starters were with us in the Championship.
And please explain why he insisted on going one up front second half and playing our new record signing goalscoring centre forward on the right of midfield ?
Unless there is a change, we can all forget about our Premiership status and the redevelopment of Molineux.
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Another week goes by and we have yet again thrown points away. I don’t look at excuses of the ref. I think we are doomed for relegation unless we pick up points against Wigan and West ham and I mean at least 4 points. I fear that Mick does not know his best team. Get it sorted Mick 4-5-1
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Most telling moment for me was after we equalised, Villa hadn’t done anything second half and were there for the taking……and we just kept playing the same old ponderous and predictable way!
There is no pace in this side – Jarvis apart – and we will get torn apart by any team that runs at us.
Let’s get ready for the “We were unlucky” quotes which will mask the truth that we have a side full of workers but no speed and very little creativity!
And could someone explain how we lost out on Jerome Thomas…..yet another potential diamond slips through our grasp!
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It’s about time the manager stopped playing just his favourites. for example, look at stearman, he might have had a rocky patch, but now he’s super trained, young and keen and just sat there being wasted on the bench waiting to play, same goes for the rest of his lads, he needs to give them a go, or this will carry on.
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For evidence that Berra wears Lead boots,look no further than the above photo
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Whatever villa fans gloat, Warnock should have been sent off………….. Everyone but the ref really believes that, and who crossed to Heskey………??
Second half when we put Stearman on I feared the worst….. WHY OH WHY MAKE THAT CHANGE!
Anyway, gutted and feel robbed by the ref, AGAIN, see no penalty at Spurs??, and now this decision. Seems like we really dont get the rub of it with the refs.
Fed up and if I had a cat i’d kick it tonight.
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looked at the team sheet and saw edwards, ward on it and I knew it was going to be tough today.
Ward had a nightmare against albrighton and failed to cut out the cross for the first goal but it was jones who lost the ball in midfield that really caused the goal. Good timing ward got Ko’d and elokobi came on,cos after that albrighton never got a kick and was subbed. Edwards was abysmal his passing was poor and he kept runnin backwards with the ball.We showed a lot to get back in the game and played well 2nd half, but we rarely score more than one goal and this is a real problem.MM is responsible for the team selection and tactics, but its not his fault that berra and 2 other defenders give Heskey a free header and he scores. look at the replay and see Berra ball watching instead of watching and putting in a real challenge to stop heskey. We deserved a draw here and against fulham but poor defending is really costing us. We really need zubar back,and an attacking player on the left.Last season we benefitted from other teams around us losing when we did, but thats not going to happen this season as there arnt any poor teams in the league.
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You can’t fault the players for lack of effort,they all ran their socks off.BUT that is all they had to give.With a few exceptions mostlack the guile aand soccer intelligence to break down teams.Villa looked ready for the taking at the back for most of the game.WHY did he select Edwards over Guadiaura???? and Ward hasn’t a clue how to defend!!!I hope that Adlene has’t picked up a bad one,what a tackle??? that was.
It looks like a long hard season ahead.Lets hope that when Hunt and the others get fit we will improve?????
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Some managers have the ability to take ordinary footballers and turn them into members of a good, even successful, footballing team. I don´t think this is the case with the current manager at Wolves today.
How many players has he bought who still sit on the bench or don´t even get that far, while a handful of no-no´s play(sic) in his team weak in weak out?
I really do hope Steve Morgan is considering his options of how this club can maintain its position in the top flight because it certainly won´t happen with the present managers lack of ability in the transfer market, to say nothing of his tactical awareness at this level.
It´s all very well having two good strikers but not much use if there´s precious little creativity coming from the back. Apart from the hard working Jody Craddock and a quality goalkeaper, have Wolves got a seriously good defender of Prem quality?
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Unlucky WWFC but what a dull game and tbh a draw would have been a fair result.
I don’t know what’s going on at wolves but ideas seem limited in play and the only solution was to bring on a player who can throw the ball far?
Good luck in the cup.
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Lots of effort, but a lack of quality when we needed it. I have no idea how Edwards gets in the team before others. Too much hoofing long balls, little service to Doyle and Fletcher who did their bests. Jones dwells on the ball too much, hence the first goal.
Need Zubar, Guedioura, Hunt (I hope he’s up to it), etc, not the same whole lot who are clearly not up to it.
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Mick is back, a punters dream. 8/5 on Villa was a licence to print money and 7/2 to go down is easy money.
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WOLVES CAN COPE WITH EMILE HESKEY, Said MM. Is that them doing it in the banner photo then?
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Ward, Edwards and Jones – no place for them. We need an attacking midfielder to stop Doyle and Fletcher having to keep coming back.
Guedioura should have started but looked like he could be out with injury? I thought Elokobi was really solid. With Hunt, Zubar, Kightly and Milijas to come back perhaps there is hope.
Three defeats in a row knocks us back to where we should be – others will follow. A win today would have shot us up the table so it is early days.
On the positives it was an undeserved win for Villa and Houlier. Never really a moment when Villa were on top and Ashley Young needs a kick up the backside for trying to get Craddock booked and generally acting like a bab.
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Today I thought the team we put out with the exception of jarvis and craddock was at best mid championship level in the first half , and although we did improve after the break. if this is what we class as our best we are in for a major relegation relegation battle this season as this squad is simply not the quality of players we require for the premier maybe the championship but not up for the battle of the premier unfortunately for us wolves fans even with players like kightly , Hunt and others who are to return .we’ve got championship players quality and nothing better.
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If Sad Micko has more sublime tips on how to gun a Prem defense down I for one won´t be backing the. I can see us struggling more this season than we did last. Anyone care to offer odds against? Micko, any pearls?
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Comment 2 – Slippy
Did you go to school pal? (Having de-coded what you were trying to say, I do actually tend to agree with you!)
All the best slippy – just sort out your spelling, grammar and punctuation eh?
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I feel gutted after that today. We never deserved to lose but we have to many championship players out there. foley, ward, jones, edwards. also where were the centre halfs 4 the second goal???? unfortunatly we have got into a routine of conceding a minimum of 2 goals a game. I am seriously worried about our premier league status. we just cant see games out ………..
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have some loyality i as a baggie was cheering on wolves
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what is it with us that we cant see a game out? we have to concede time and time again in the dying minutes. poor team selection and a poor performance to boot. just when we tought things were starting to look good with what look at the time to be some good transfer business in the summer? where am they? whats going on with the same players week in week out mick? they aint doin it. c’mon wolves sort it out before we become the whipping boys and a bloody laughing stock!
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GREAT GAME, AWFUL RESULT. . . i am sure, like i am sure MM is, that our day will come when we get these as wins. i never neg about wolves, as i trust in MM, but i have some questions and points, which i am sure MM has answered in his own mind. . . .
why are we not playing Milijas, why did we not play Guedioura from the start?
i wilkl say this though, if the result was different, then we would all be congratulating MM, but unf it was not so there is alot of neg. none-the-less, i would have loved to have seen some Milijas. Big G. was awesome though, i think he deserves chance in firstteam. Elacobi did very well, he stopped the threat from the right flank, which was ever so present. Edwards – well, 1 game, but, we lacked threat from the naturally strongest footballing flank – the right side. Nothing feeded from there all night, not even a single cross that i can remember.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST – strikers – i feel for them both, they work so hard. if they have no midfield feediong them, what can they do? They have to do the work themselves, reduced to long shots (most of the time) as they dont have the service due to the lack of it from the flanks. . . .
that said, i am always wolves all the way and pray to the god of football, that on another day, or someday soon, he can favour us. ..
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A game of passion, laboured work by both sides with two class goals and one lucky one! A typical derby but at least the best side won….. Come On The Villa!!
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Absolutely gutted that we appear to have thrown away another point in the closing minutes of a game.
It’s all very well for MM to say that we are playing and competing well, putting in a shift blah blah blah (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!), but at the end of the day football is a results business – we ain’t getting them at the moment and the buck stops with MM!
We appear to lack quality in the middle of the park, Jarvis excluded, and when was the last time we kept a clean sheet for crying out loud? MM said when the transfer window closed that he was happy with the squad and so I can only conclude from this that he thought it would be good enough to stay up following the addition of the summer purchases? So what the hell is going wrong MM, ‘cos at the moment things ain’t looking great from my perspective?
All very depressing and the next 2 fixtures are already looking like 6 pointers as the clubs around are all now starting to pick up points.
My only consolation tonight is that I do not live in the West Mids and so am unlikely to encounter any smug stripey inbreds (following their excellent win at the Emirates) or Brummies in the aftermath of this weekend’s results.
Forever Wolves….. no matter how hard they make it!
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All the millions that MM has spent over the last 2 years and he is still playing the same side that won the Championship except for the 2 strikers does he know what to do???
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I am seriously worried now. This team is not capable of keeping a clean sheet. Mouyokolo must be given a go when he is fully fit. This time last season, nobody would have said we would miss Zubar this badly, but we do. I see many players who are very good workers when we don’t have the ball, but poor when we have possession. Hunt is going to be such a key player for us when attacking. Jarvis seems to be carrying the attacking threat alone. The tough part is we seem worse than last season. I am trying very hard to find positives, but so far I can’t. Six points from the next two games is now essential.
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Baggies fan in peace, you were unlucky today, but keep your chins up and the wins/results will come. I said that to wolves fans last season, and look what happened, as long as the performance and fight is there the results will come. There are a lot of rubbish teams out there that will go down, like West Sham, Wigan, Blackpool,…Arsenal…lol The Vile were very lucky today, the winner was well against the run of play.
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We looked much better when we switched to 4 3 3 after half time. Ward Berra and Foley should be replaced by Elokobi Moyokolo and Zubar giving us some much needed pace and strength at the back but the midfield is shocking and we didn’t strengthen this department in the summer. Too many long ball made it far to easy for Collins and Cueller. Unless we make changes we are going down there are no Potsmouths and Hulls to save us this season.
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NOT GOOD ENOUGH,JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.I mean the team McCarthy keeps putting out and I mean picking his mates and playing players out of position.I ALSO MEAN MCCARTHY.Come on Mr.Morgan,you know,I know and a good many more know that McCarthy does not have it to hack it in the Premiereship.GET RID NOW AND CALL IN MARTIN O`NIELL.5 points out of a possible 18 will not do.
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WHAT MICK SEES IN WARD/EDWARDS IS BEYOND ME,WARD WAS SHOCKING AGAIN AND JUST CANT READ THE GAME,AND EDWARDS NOT UP TO PREM PACE YET,ADLENE IS A BETTER PROSPECT AND NOT SURE OF ELOKOBI EITHER,GOD HELP US IF FLETCER /DOYLE GET INJURED ,OH I FORGOT WARD WAS A BARGAIN BUY WITH HENRY, I WISH TO HELL WE HAD LEE NAYLOR AT THE BACK NOW.ITS CLEAR TO ALL THAT MILIJAS WILL GET OVERLOOKED WITH MUJANGI FOR TIME BEING,CMON MICK SORT THIS OUT SOON ,WIGAN AWAY NEXT,WE BE FIRMLY IN BOTTOM 3 IN NEXT 6 GAMES,WORST OF ALL WE HAD NO THREAT GOING FORWARD
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I am afraid we are back to the first half of last season, Mick for some reason becoming pig headed again, we lost an opportunity of 1 sub due to having Ward taken off early, he was getting roasted, we should have stuck with George from the start. Seb on the bench, Ineffective midfield, Edwards, Henry cannot pass forward, no I am as you know not a fan of his.
Berra, not good enough, we need a commanding CH, for goodness sake Heskey scoring a goal!
I really thought this season we had removed the uncertainty of last season by buying early and good purchases, now we find that they are either injured not up to the Premier League etc, or fallen foul of Mick’s EGO
We are still playing with yesterday’s team todays result was I am afraid perdicatble.
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A turgid result following a laboured performance. Changes needed before this becomes a habit. If not, we face a winter of discontent!
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honest thoughts on today, how the hell edwards gets infront of guideroa (mispelt) ill never know, real of quality and using people out of postition is doing my nut! doyle looks dis-interested now! think he wanted away n was made to stay! MM has done a fine jib in getting us this far but this is it! to move forward we have to move on! fact
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4-5-1 ultra defensive our only hope. good money spent on players who make no difference to quality of squad (fletcher excepted).can’t score more than 1, can’t defend. relegation written all over us.
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Wolves have got to spend big money to sort this team out. Why was Ebanks-Blake left out, he’s the best striker wolves have?. Another
problem is when wolves drop the hard man attitude, they are done for, as there isn’t enough skill. There aren’t any goals coming from Fletcher and Doyle in Premiership games.
I fear for your survival. JtH.
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Have to agree with next two games being must win.If we lose these games we will almost certainly find ourselves with 5 points from 12 games and if that’s the case we can kiss the prem and those ground developments goodbye!
Can someone tell me what Edwards does for the team and i’m now conviced that aliens do exist because Foley from two years ago has definitely been abducted and replaced with a zombie clone!
Both fullbacks were culpable for the goals. Somebody stopped the music and Foley was playing musical statues for the first with Downing running past him to get to the ball and Elokobi just let Heskey go for the second giving Berra no chance because Heskey had a run at it!
How ironic that our so called manager was a defender by trade and yet our defence(Craddock excluded) looks absolutely clueless. Until MM gets the back sorted out we are never going to win a game in this division because we are not full of goals but we are certainly full of holes!
What grieves me most is I look at what the albion did this weekend and I know in my heart of hearts that we could not do that and as a lifelong Wolves fan – THAT HURTS!
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Well all the whinging whiners will be on again. It was all McCarthy/Ward/Berra’s fault. We’re going down. I told you we weren’t good enough. etc etc
Go to Wigan next week and SUPPORT the team (even if you are starting from Malta, Mallorca, costa del crime etc). We will be OK if we stick together. If people start getting on players’ backs and calling for the manager’s head then we will be in trouble. In fairness this is not really happening amongst the people who actually go to games so lets keep it that way!
PS while wishing Mark Halssy all the best in his recovery from throat cancer, it was a shame he left his testicles in the changing rooms at half time.
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championship side, championship tactics, championship manager, sorry mick but it’s time to go, i cant defend you anymore……..we need someone with a clue or two about attacking football and quickly before were relegated!
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Why is Adlene not starting?! He is so hungry and not afraid to take people on and shoot whilst Jones was strolling today and going back or sideways.
The first half was an embarrassment! Why were we smashing it up in the air all the time?! That’s not us that’s not Wolves. The scary thing was Mick didn’t scream at them to stop…….
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I think you Wolves do yourselves an injustice, for long periods in that game you had the upper hand, the fact that you didnt score another couple of goals was down to our defence and up until the Heskey goal, we never looked like adding another.
I think English Exile is being a bit harsh on Berra, that was one hell of a cross to deal with and irrispective of what you may think of Heskey, he took the goal well.
If that had been a goal for Wolves, I think E.E would be telling us what a great goal it was.
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Ain’t it about time you all took a look at yourselfs, Mick has done a fantastic job here, whether or not he can take us any further well thats summat else, we were poor first half, quality second! I don’t care where we finish this season as long as we are safe! Were better than blackpool, west ham and Wigan, for sure, them in sandwell have built a really good team, and maybe we should take a leaf out of there book for getting defenders! I myself think well be safe! O and SEB as been awful last 2 weeks so he deserves to get dropped! UTW!!!!
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foley and Berra both fast asleep for their 2 goals. Berra said in the E & S ,that we concede sloppy goals, due to lack of concentration, and i myself switch off ,we seem to do it in the last few minutes? he not kidding is he. I see we failed to fill the ground AGAIN, so why do we need to spend millions on a new one, (keep your hand off that ‘Start Button’Mr Morgan). Surely Mr Morgan would be better off spending it on Top PL players not second-rater’s, as for Dave Jones i thought he was suppose to be a ‘creative’ player? seems like his head is elsewhere, time to give Milijas 4-5 game run ,it will help his match fitness too, then we will see if he can hack the PL, if not get rid of them both in January, and buy a decent passer of the ball who can create?. Looking at Jody’s artwork he creates better things than Jones does. Its worrying that we’ve only taken 1pt out of 12pts relegation form that is. Its a shame as we played very well in the 2nd half,and should have scored two-three ,before Heskey scored. We need 6pts from Wigan, WHU, as we want get much from the next 4 matches afterwards. UTW
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Today we had loads possession but no one with ability to create enough clear cut chances 4 doyle & fletcher.just balls in the air to many players cannot read the game & get caught out
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We made a poor Villa side look good.
The main entertainment this afternoon surrounded a great player – Matt Murray.
Elokobi improved the left side of defence, Craddock was his usual good self and Fletcher won some headers. The rest was/were unforgettable.
McCarthy I like as an honest man with integrity, just like my boss. However, neither of them would make a good Premiership manager!
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WHY ON EARTH DID EDWARDS START BEFORE ADLENE!! NOT PREM QUALITY,,, WE NEED 6 POINTS FROM NEXT 2 GAMES OR WE ARE GOING TO STRUGGLE,,,PICTURE SUMS IT UP,,,GREAT CHALLENGE BERRA!! HESKEY IS POOR AND HAS PROB GOT HIS 1ST AND LAST PREM GOAL FOR THE SEASON, GIFTED TO HIM THERE BERRA,,,, MICK STOP PLAYING YOUR FAVORITES YOUR GOING TO COST US BIG TIME!!
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The relegation battle has commenced.
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I KNEW FROM TEAM SELECTION THE OLD PALS ACT WAS HERE AGAIN AND I SAID AT HALF TIME THAT WARD, FOLEY.EDWARDS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SELECTED, IT TOOK MICK A TOTAL OF 80 MINS TO COME TO THE SAME CONCLUSION CHAMPIONSHIP PLAYERS PREMIER LEAGUE, FOR GOD SAKE DROP THE OLD PALS ACT OR SHIP OUT NOT REALLY BOTHERED TAKE YOUR PICK BUT DO THE HONORABLE THING MICK YOU STUBORN YORKSHIRECHAP.WE COULDN’T HOLD A BABY NEVER MIND A LEAD
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We were outplayed in the first half and our left side was totally exposed – no wonder Ward went off as his legs were twisted every which way by Albrighton and Young!!!
As usual, we seemed to resort to a constant diet of back passes to the keeper with long hopeful punts up the pitch hoping to find our forwards – inadequate tactics at this level.
In the second half our play was much improved and the ball was kept on the ground and there was a real effort to put pressure on. Our goal was fortuitous but nonetheless deserved on the balance of play as Villa seemed to fade. Unfortunately, we continue to fail to turn possession and some decent passing and movement into goals and Heskey’s quality strike underlined the paucity of our attack and our leaden defence.
A run of three consecutive losses does not augur well in the near term. Our midfield needs sorting out as we seem incapable of getting 90 minutes of creative play out of it. We really need some real speed on both flanks if we are to create problems for opposing defences.
I suspect MM’s answer to our recent form will be to revert to 4-5-1 which might garner some tied games but will not produce wins.
Jarvis is a decent player but England quality? No way – too inconsistent and, in this game with Capello watching, did not do enough to justify selection.
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Guedioura comes on and in 5 minutes does more than jones and Edwards done in 90 mins. So glad micks favourite ward was taken off cus albrighton was tearing him apart. Big george’s passing is awful but he is 10x better at defending than ward
Without carew, Dunn , ireland and gabby on bench and we still couldn’t take advantage. Mr Morgan says he wants us to be big again, Martin oneil is looking for a job Steve cus mr I play my favourites isn’t the man to move us forward.
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we was plying allright until wardy went off in mick we trust
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How on earth ward,edwards,foley get a game i just don’t know, it stinks of muppet mick favouritism as ever.
With muppet mick in charge we are going nowhere and we should act to replace him asap.
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Very predictable result as soon as I saw the team sheet,it doesnt matter how many mistakes you make as long as you are one of Mad Micks favourites you will always get the nod.How Edwards can walk straight back into the side above Guediora is a joke,
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After that (performance) particularly the first half from 7 or 8 players was totally unnaceptable with the exceptions of jarvis ,craddock and Doyle the rest was championship level and we are going to struggle if we don’t Start improving rapidly. We have too many players who want to be carried by their teammates and this will ultimately cost us our place in the premier league.
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well 40 million spent and the team is near wnough the same one that got us promoted!!! Ward is not good enough, even in the championship the better team attacked down his flank. MM plays too many players out of position,manciene, zubar etc. If danns and johnson had signed for us instead of blooze we wouldnt have conceded emilys goal at the end….i fear the worst if we keep the manager
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McCarthy OUT!!! What a joke of a clueless, gutless, listless “performance”. Totally embarrassing. The Manager sets up a defensive minded team, that can’t score goals.. what more do we expect. We were lucky to beat Stoke, and get a point against Toon. We are a ragbag side that has cost a fortune, yet, gone backwards. Mo midfield, pedestrian defence, no bite up front…nearly 20mill on two strikers that hardlt ever score. Every other team has quality, teh Manager has bought quantity in the hope that some of them come off. We spent all summer signing crocks…”job done” tehy said…”good early business”… sure was Moxley…for the selling teams. Ward, Jones,Edwards, Berra, all rubbish… get rid ..MCCARTHY OUT !!!
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We have a fantastic midfield player but is mick anti-Serbian or something? Why, oh why, did he not play nenad milijas?
This guy is very classy and we need that compared to the heffalumps in our midfield.
I fear we are heading down again
But with Hunt, Zubar, Seb and Milijas we might win a match…
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I said on my last post on the Wolves v Spurs thread that WARD will drop ANOTHER clanger & will cost Wolves v Villa…..
…. I WAS RIGHT, now i cant predict the future, it just THAT obvious to ALMOST EVERY WOLVES FAN that….
HE IS NOT A LEFT BACK !!!!
MICK, Clipboard… do the simple maths
WARD(L.B) + Any prem winger = Skinned
WARD IS NOT A LEFTBACK
WARD IS NOT A LEFTBACK
WARD WILL NEVER BE A LEFTBACK
Mick, WHY cant you see this ???????????????
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It’s not our squad thats not good enuff for the premier, we’ve been better than 3 losses would suggest,
Its Mick who picks the WRONG TEAM
Its Mick who plays people out of place
Its Mick who’s tactics are punt it up field and ”PUT A SHIFT IN” and hope we get lucky.
I THINK ITS TIME TO GET A PREM MANAGER IN !
Thanks for getting us out the championship Mick but you’ll be the one who takes us back unless we GET RID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MORGAN, time to bring in O’neil with the money to spend what we put aside for the NEW GROUND before its too late !
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Mick STOP your stupid love for Ward, you might as well play him upfront and drop Doyle if you MUST play him
At least he will be in the right bleepin position !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If he aint dropped for next match i give up.
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MM said after the Fulham match that we have to cut out defensive mistakes and maintain concentration for the whole match,he went on to say that if you make a mistake thats sometimes understandable but to repeat the same mistake is unacceptable,so why week afterweek are we making the same mistakes with the same players.You have to reach a conclusion that he will play his favourites ie Ward,Foley,Edwards regardless of their form and stick his fingers up to the fans.Lack of concentration and ball watching cost us again today.
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sort it out mick! its time for a change we look a mess. Ward needs a rest its clearly obvious, edwards is not a winger i dont like getting on players/micks back but seems like last season all over again, square pegs in round holes and us fans are getting sick of it. We got promoted because we had 2 very attacky wingers i.e kightly and jarvis, seemed we could allways find a result. I think the three m’s messed up in transfer window, we have 1 winger? an average midfield excluding jarvo, a useless unorganised defence and wasted money on 2 strikers who cant score. to many players are out injured will they get 100% fit again? will they make any difference? I’m not calling for the managers head as its early days. The next 2 games are must 6pointer, we cant go there looking for a draw its not a good enough mentality, its going to be a long hard season again, I’ll judge the team on where we are on boxing day as per last season 12th i believe mid table. Dont call for martin o’neil he wont be coming to wolves why would he?, i stand by mick but he needs to take a look at himself and stop playing his best mates. When fit??? my pref team would be -
4-4-2
Hahnemann
Mancienne / Van Damme
Mouyokolo
Craddock
Zubar
Hunt
Henry
Guedioura
Jarvis
Fletcher
Doyle
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Asolutely stunned & gutted really. 3 games & we have blown it in the final 10 minutes of each game. 2 we could have won at Fulham & Spurs & this one we could have salvaged a draw, albeit Warnock should have never been on the pitch to provide the cross for Heskey to have a “training ground header” for a winning goal. Do the team know we have to play & compete for 90+ minutes against 12 men (11 + the ref) every week??
Looking good for Doyle & Fletcher to move on in January as they won’t want to stay around & fight relegation for a second succesive season will they?
Why do we purchase players that are either unfit or not up to the pace of the EPL. Names to the fore are Milijas (still, what has happened to this guy), Zubar (got there in the end last season, now out again until when?), VanDamme (looks ok, but can’t last the full game) Adlene (did this guy sign for us on the back of some great performances at the end of last season, & a WC under his belt too). When is Hunt really going to be ready? We always have a long treatment room of who’s who! Is there something wrong with our training methods to keep picking up injuries, I know Hunts was inherited, but think about other players who seem to get done for by our own players.
I don’t want to join the anti- McCarthy brigade & living over her in Aussie (thank god for Foxsports) I can only get to see the games through the media & catch up on this good old E&S web. We seem to be labouring at the moment & when will all the cliches stop in the E&S… “we know how to deal with Heskey” yeah right he knew how to deal with us for sure. Lets not get carried away we have struggled against Southend & Notts County. Come on Wolves get some backbone. Like last season we are not going to get any assistance from the officials no matter how blatant a foul or a penatly it is, unless its in our own box.
With Martin O’Neill available (maybe even Coppell) how long will Steve Morgan allow this slide to continue, lets make no bones about it, we are once more in a dogfight.
On a closing note I’d like to say well done to the Baggies for achieving 3 great results this week against the Bluenoses & the Gooners in the EPL & against “money bags” City in the cup. It seems you played without fear guys. Maybe going up & down 5 times as been the making of your team. I wish we had the same!!
Apologies if this is a bit of a novel, but 2nd season syndrome is on our shirt tails guys!!
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Once again we concede goals in the last few minutes.GET YOUR FINGER OUT WOLVES!THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!
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deadwood not good enough, outclassed in this league & not up to prem standard, sell when possible please mick
stearman (downhill)
ward (found out)
edwards (waste)
elokobi (plays ok only as a sub, still has no clue)
berra (doesnt look good enough)
d jones (dont sign the contract ur not good enough anyway golddigger)
halford (useless)
bent (useless)
milijas (slow and useless)
munjangi bia (waste of space)
m hill (eh free transfer >)
s maierhofer (useless donkey who cant head a barn yard door)
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48,Noisy.
Do you really believe that the fans can make a real difference?Wolves fans have been superb for years.Fantastic support come here to Malta one of the biggest on the Island.Unfortunately MM picks the team.Moxey backs him and again we struggle.Yes you love MM i have my doubts but i support Wolverhampton Wanderers Fc always have always will and if you have a problem with that,feel three to meet meet at any time.
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Mr Morgan you must watch the games the same as I and thousands of fans do, what must you be thinking,you cannot be happy with the team your manager keeps playing. The players he purchased are not good enough, we have no mid-field and the whole team is devoid of playing football. This means the coaching is non existant.
So as the owner can you please do the supporters a favour and get a new manager and release MM and his staff.
If you don’t we will be back in the Championship.
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Please play the new boys and give us a chance. Why keep playing the team from the champ, give the new boys a chance so we have a chance of staying in the prem.
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The next two games are crucial, we need to win both and the tables will turn. The hard part has yet to come when Man U and Chelsea etc. yet to play.
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Once again a Mick substitution gives away a goal. Was Foley injured? Stearman lost his man, just like when Zubar came on cold and conceded the free kick Newcastle equalised with. At least Ward went off having been at fault for the first goal with his usual ‘stand off the man and let him cross it’ policy. As for Warnock’s fouls, compared to Berra’s at Fulham, the integrity of the league is a joke.
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Imagine the hype in the media, especially on Talk Sport, if Henry had made the foul Sidwell did!
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seriously folks its not that bad, we’ve not got into a stride yet to match the swaggering performances against WHU last season but it will come, you have to stay in games to win em, and we can do that..so time will tell. WE don’t have the momentum in games to finish in the final third and the killer pass is lacking, but i am confident it will come, then we’ll offer more of a threat. I think away from home will be where we change our season, although 12 shots on target is not bad and reflects the early domination of the second half..mistakes costly, as always but with confidence we can prosper. Funnily enough our season may yet turn on something like MU away in the CC, against a second string we’ll have at least a faint hope of progressing, and giving us a much needed boost. The next two are crucial though!
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3 consecutive league defeats to teams we took points from last season should be worrying the management, and if not, why not?
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Guedioura did well on the ball when he came on,but he lacked the legs to track back and mark the run of Warnock for the second goal.Same could probably be said for Fletcher who was playing wide right at the time.We are failing on the basics last season we would have protected the point we had in the closing minutes,with two banks of four on a narrower pitch.There is a issue over Berra’s fitness at the end of games.But it was one hell of a good header.The problem is lack of quality especially wide right and central midfield.FOOTBALLERS NOT BRICKS.
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What really annoyed me wasn’t Wolves, Villa or the ref but the police. Was there any need to have the helicopter hovering over the ground for the last 20 mins of the match. How much of the tax payers money did that cost. Whilst the air ambulance group has to work tirelessly to get donations to save peoples lives the police are free to hover over the ground to catch the remainder of a game that sky were showing for free.
Why put a barricade by the ground only to allow the fans to mix my the coach park and train station anyway.
Every away match I have been to where trouble may happen we get locked in for half an hour. Not once has that happened here.
They had to cheek to say no one could have predicted trouble at the Notts county game when you could predict it just by looking on facebook a few days before. Seems to me like they are trying to cover themselves after yet shambolic set of police tactics.
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Sort it out Mick or you can say good bye to your Job!!!
Can’t wait for Hunt to give us the width on the right hand side!!
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taxi for muppet mick,average manager who only
picks average players,over 10m spent on people
he does not play,he must be the only person who think edwards is better than guedioura.
the man a joke at moment it hard to find 3 worse team than us,since he came i have been
waiting for him to prove me wrong but i see no
chance of that happen.stop picking your mate
and pick the best player in right position before it to late or better still GO GO PLEASE.
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Luckily ward had the decency to fake injury early enough in the game otherwise it could have been much worse as he was being ripped to pieces by Albrighton, and sending Stoke out for the second half with the long throw ins and long hoofs up field confused villa for a while but as it proved that sort of style of play is only worthwhile if your strikers are 6 foot plus and good in the air and Doyle and Fletcher are not that type of player and with the pace of the Villa counter attack which wolves dont have the defence to cope with it was only going to be a matter of time before they created a chance and if 4 defenders stand and watch even emile heskey will stick it in the back of the net. Villa were missing 4 or 5 regular players and should have been there for the taking but even a weakened premiership side is better than a good chumpionship side which unfortunately is still what Wolves are!!!!
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I wonder what Steve Morgan sees if this is the type of football and team that will keep us up. The players do try but Mick’s tactics at this level is poor. You cant be lucky 2 seasons in a row.
SO MUCH FOR NEW GROUND DEVELOPMENT! Wont be needed when we are back in the Championship.
MICKS TEAMS SHOULD BE IF ALL FIT!
1 USA
2 ZUBAR
3 VAN DAMME
4 MOLOYOKO
5 CRADDOCK
6 ALDENE
7 HUNT
8 MILLJAS
9 DOYLE
10 SEB
11 JARVIS
But I doubt it if S.WARD, HENRY, EDWARDS gets picked!
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Can’t believe how you lot can be talking about relegation after only 6 games , 4 games ago you were talking about Europe ,wait til the season is over before you judge your manager ,he’s proved you wrong on more than one occasion
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We still have a fair few players out and Mick has to take some responsibility for picking the wrong team. Time for Ward, Foley and Edwards to be dropped. Baggies coming on under different names beware, Arsenal had TEN players injured and the others had their eye on the champions league game this week. With a full squad I would expect the line-up to look rather different, I’d go:
Hahnemann
Zubar
Mouyokolo
Craddock
Van Damme
Jarvis
Guerdoira
Henry
Hunt
Fletcher
Doyle
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Taking into account the players that are likely to be fit V Wigan I would go with 4-5-1:
Hahnemann
Foley
Craddock
Mancienne (pace)
Elokobi
Jarvis
Guerdoira
Henry
Jones
Fletcher
Doyle
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I said it all last season and will say it again..
Ward – Utterly useless footballer
Foley – Hasnt improved since the championship and not a premiership footballer.
Henry – Incapable of passing the ball forwards. Backwards is his favoured , if not, sideways or anywhere where he doesn’t have it. Get rid of this bloke. Most overrated player I’ve ever seen in a wolves shirt.
Berra – The agility of a sumo wrestler
Edwards – Would this guy even get in the Luton team? I doubt it.
Questions :
Why haven’t we stenghted the midfield?
Why haven’t we sorted out the left back position?
Why haven’t we got a decent centre half STILL??
This team is going one way, and that’s down.
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91 LW – “baggies under different names”
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…. oh hang on…. haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!
Thanks for making the perfect weekend even better – funniest post of the year !!
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Nothing better than leaving the custard bowl with all 3 points! Hopefully that will be our last visit for a while
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Villa fan here and really happy with 3 points (would have settled for a draw before the game)
Two points to mention:
1: comment No 18 Rich5, no-one else on here has moaned about the ref (90 comments) so how come this is your sole arguement?
2:I meet my wolves mates after most games for beers and i remember the season you went up that lots of fans (and i mean lots) were calling for Micks head that season when you had a dip in form, and now a few games into this season and you guys are calling for his head again.
He took you up and kept you up!! Give the guy a break because as you will have seen from the Villa debarcle, decent managers are very thin on the ground out there!!!
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When Mick gets sacked he will probably recommend Ward to replace him as Manager.
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Come on guys… get a grip! Ok we were not so good first half but we were all over them in the second. No dispute that Hesky’s goal was utter class but the cross came from someone who should’nt of been on the pitch. Villa were lucky to leave with all the points… a draw would of been a fair result.
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To all anti-happy clappers.
You are right and we are wrong. So shall we not see you at the next game then? Or will you be down the bookies putting bets on Wolves going down?
Because as far as i’m concerned our next two games are winnable or should we dwell on a poor performance for the rest of season ah?
Says something of our ‘support’ when Garry a villa fan is making the most sense (and that’s no insult to the villa)
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why has no-one pointed out Micks decision to take Foley off and put Stearman on?? We ended up replacing 2 out of our back 4………….
Stearman lost his man and did nothing in defending that goal. Useless and the decision to disrupt the back line is even worse!
George at least looked ok.
Frustrating decisions and even worse play from Stearman. AGAIN.
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Asolutely fed up! Enough has been said above. Time for change is NOW!! Mcarthy has to go and go now. We aint good enough its plain to see.Championship players et etc! Martin Oneal is waiting! Sign him get him in sort the crap out then lets get down to serious business of playing good quality football. Mr Morgan please turn the page!
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If we cant get at least a point against a poor Villa team we are in trouble.Ward Edwards and Foley are not premiership players.Apart from Fletcher the players Mick has bought this season are not playing and that is a major worry.If we dont get 4 points from our next two games we could be bottom by the end of November.
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First of all, we were playing against villa, who are hardly a bad team, they will be hoping to qualify for europe and no doubt will do well again this season. Next, doyle had been outrunning the defence all game, and then he gets chopped down, when he clearly would have used his pace to be through on goal. For a team like Man utd that would have been a second yellow and warnock would have been off.
As for our team, Edwards was poor and i cant remember him making a single successfull pass, which was even more frustrating when nearly every attack we had in the first half was down the right, instead of using Jarvis to better effect. Elekobi was brilliant when he came on and deserves to replace Ward for the next game, i was hesitant when i saw Big George come on because we all know his distribution can be poor, but he made some fantastic passes, including a few Jones would be proud of.
Im not worried, Micks still the best manager weve had in years and has proven he can keep us in the prem, Guediora deserves a start if hes fit, and Ward should be dropped as hes been poor in the last few games. I think we need a bit more pace in the center of defence, and would drop Berra for Mouyokolo when fit, and i would definately bring Zubar back into the team, as he would definately help our attacks down the right. I dont think Foley was troubled defensively but when it comes to attacking, he will just hoof the ball into the box and hope for the best. With those changes i think we would survive comfortably, not to mention the injured players getting fit again as the season progresses.
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Speaking of Guediora, how bad is the injury ? He tried to stand up but was obviously in too much pain. Hope its not too serious, as he is a quality player.
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Some excellent comments, pity MM wont read them cos he knows it all. At the best he is championship level along with Foley, Craddock, Berra and Ward, as for Edwards oh dear. Zubar, Guedioura, Mouyokolo, Jelle,Stearman and Hunt should all be playing if/when fit otherwise why buy/sign them. Worst team in the prem by far at the moment. Come on Mr Morgan surely you cant be happy with this rubbish, then again it saves you spending money on a new stadium so perhaps you are.
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big mm fan and have said time again he diserves his chance after getting, abd keeping us up, but i do worry about the lack of ball players in the team, even bolton have changed there style of play and look at them now, you do need to keep and move the ball better in the prem. get the sreb in for jones and play henry in cen drf mid role. 2-1 win at wigan. and why has seb been dropped..?
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for all you haters shut up and get a life not many wolves fans were moaning was they when we won the championship so shut up till you now something about football
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As soon as the match started with the familiar “hoof and hope” nonsense I knew we were in for it. let’s face it, our goal was supposed to be a cross (ie a fluke)
Lost the last three games in the last 15 minutes. How can a team winning 1 0 allow the opposition to score three times in 15 minutes? Happening once is unlucky, twice is unfortunate now three times has to be incompetence.
McCarthy admitted as much in his Match of the Day comments. “Failure to concentrate for the full 90 minutes” “The fact is we have now lost the last three games” Very observant Mr McCarthy. You should be manager of the month.
Where does a team go in this league when it can’t score in open play or concentrate for a full 90 minutes?
Answers on a postcard care of Mr McCarthy
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91 laughing fool that must be the daftest comment on here have a nice day
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HAHNEMANN
ZUBAR CRADDOCK MOUYOKOLO ELOKOBI
GUERDOIRA HENRY JONES JARVIS
DOYLE FLETCHER
Team for wigan game
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Still quite early in the season but looking at the PL table we are now 17th and have a few ‘interesting’ matches coming up!
Whatever Big Mick is doing with the lads is obviously not working very well as we seem to have caught the ’75 minutes have gone and it’s time to switch off’ bug!
Too many lapses of concentration are occurring and we are literally throwing points away because of it – it must stop!
Event the most optimistic Wolves fan will not be relishing our games against Chelsea, City, United or Arsenal and although West Brom caused the biggest shock this weekend, can anyone really see us doing the same?
Hopefully things will turn around quickly but should it not happen, we are going to fighting to stay in the PL before Christmas, and that will mean a long, hard slog until the season ends.
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Oh dear to little to late really McCarthy realised that starting Ward(i know he went of injured but he is no good), Foley (looked well off the pace / come back Zubar) & Edwards (he run the ball out of play twice / Adlene should of started) I hope to god he’s not injured to bad or put Jarvis right and Milijas on the left. Henry backwards or sideways passing, Jones was poor. Doyle and Fletch looked good but need the service. I’ve read a few comments about playing West Brom and at the moment the look more a Premier league team than us. This happened last year though took McCarthy half the season to see Foley, Ward, Edwards aren’t the best players. I know a couple of Elokobi’s passes went stray but his defending was good. I believe it’s Wigan next week a win is a must!!!
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M.M was a defender of sorts? Yet he cannot organise the defence to put a barrier up on the six yard box. Foley fell asleep for the first goal, he had no idea that Downing was running in from the wing, in fact,he did not know that Downing was on the wing.
Heskey’s goal was first class, yet another poor mixed up play on Wolves left gave the ball away allowing the ball to be centred.
I have mentioned before of the inadequate defenders in the middle, why did Wolves buy at least one defender of note, even if it was for one season? Neither Croddock or Berra are Premiership defenders. Now, who do we blame for that. Is MM, is it Moxley resticting his spending or is it Morgan? The policy appears to be, buy from the poundshop, not from M&S
Despite some comments, Jarvis is useful, but unlike other teams who pass the ball in a fashion for a clear run, he often has to fight the opponents because the passing is inadequate. At times, it is not even Sunday League quality
Would MM indicate why he uses race horses as cart horses, ie,Doyle and Fletcher. When he decides to us Milijas, he will not be match fit and the crowd will moan that he is not good enough.
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I agree that we should try Mancienne at left back. You look at what Ward did yesterday and he doesn’t even play like a footballer. Ebanks-Blake would have done a better job at left back.
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Can’t believe all the negative vibes – the season has only just started. There is more belief, more effort and so far, more progress in the side this year compared to last. So we made it up to fourth in the table at one point – but we were never going to stay there. Get real and get behind the lads. There’s a long way to go.
Have a nice day.
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As a team we rely far too much on workrate, huff n puff and less on skill and flair
What worries me most is that we have accrued 3 defeats on the trot, late in the game.
From a pyschological viewpoint, this is spirit and morale crushing for a team that has run itself into the ground three times on the trot and ended up with nothing
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no100 Rich, Stearman could perhaps have done better,but he was outnumbered 3 to 1.Exactly the same as last week no tracking back by midfielders.The foreign players signed are not good enough.Guedioura did well on the ball and I hope he is not badly injuerd,but like Van Damme the week before,Guedioura had not got the legs to track back and he had only been on the pitch for 10 minutes.
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No one is doubting that it is early days. However, the frustration is that it’s the same old mistakes over and over. How many late goals have cost us points? How many times have the substitutions of defenders ended up leading to someone coming in cold and making a big mistake? How many times does Ward have to be at fault for goals at left back until Mick realises he is no defender? We spent a lot of money and have a good squad, but by leaving Zubar, Moyoukolo and Van Damme out and playing Foley, Berra & Ward, we are masters of our own downfall. Plus, what does Guedioura have to do to get a start?
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To say we’re going down already is quite pathetic. We’ve only been playing a month!
McCarthy needs to stop being so loyal to his favourites though because we have better players on the bench like; Guedioura should be a first team regular, Mouyokolo should start ahead of Berra, Elokobi ahead of ward (until Hunt is fit then Van Damme ahead of Elokobi).
Perhaps Mick should revert to 4-5-1 again and grind out a few results?
Morgan get your checkbook ready for the Januray sales :)
We’re not down yet though you morons.
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Ex wolf cub, I agree totally with you about shopping at poundland,maybe even cheaper Euroland.And I also thought Foley was sleeping for the first goal.But surely for the second goa; the problem was the total lack of marking on our right wing.Young Downing and Warnock plated triangles with only one man marking them. When Warnock centred there was no Wolves player on him.Surely somone should have tracked his run from his own half?
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Seems to me that half the posters on here want Wolves to lose so that they can unload their spite and vitriol.
Facts are, we were unlucky not to come away with something from each of the last 3 games, and the team is overall competitive, even if there are some weaknesses to be addressed.
On the up side, we’ve scored in every game. On the down side, we’ve conceded in every game – even against lower league opposition -and that’s not going to keep us safe.
Time for a re-think on the full-backs, and the defensive cover in the midfield.
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It’s a simple solution – we just petition the Premier League to let us “stick” on the scoreline that we have after 86 minutes.
Seriously, our back 4 is looking shocking right now.
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We spent a lot of money this summer and last. But some players have been sub-standard – Halford, Surman, Maierhofer etc. While others are still here that shouldn’t be – Ward, Hennessey. And players who should be playing are not because McCarthy is too loyal to players who aren’t good enough (Berra, Ward).
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The back four looks shocking,as i have said many times,most of you are looking through rose tinted glasses in the case of craddock who looks a far better painter than a centre half…………look at the results,MM is to blame with his poor team selection and is descision not to buy a quality central midfielder is now backfiring.
Team for Wigan
Hanneman
foley/zubar if fit
Stearman
Mouyokolo
Van damme
Adlene
Henry
Jones because we hav nobody else
Jarvis
Doye
Fletcher
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Its the result that counts….lets see…oh another 3 points gone while the Tesco’s are 6 points ahead???
Err hold on how many??? How the blazes???
We have been in the Premiership a season longer than the Tescos. So why are we 6 points behind them? Its disgraceful being relegated(still a long way to go) but VERY insulting to be 6points behind the Tescos.
Oh I forgot…a certain MM is in charge. He is as clueless as when he was manager of Ireland!!!
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funny that everything we all phoped wouldnt happen did, like ward backing off again, changing the tactic when the damage is done, playing hoof ball against taller defenders, and players out of position ( edwards on the wing !!!! ) we cannot keep doing these stupid things anymore. they dont work and we are now worse off than this stage last season !!! its not ringing just yet but if we dont get points and i mean 6 of wigan and west ham the alarms bells will be ringing big time !!!!!
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From what I can see your midfield lacks any invention and can’t supply that killer pass to your £17M strike force.
Why don’t you deploy a wingback system with that extended pitch? I’m dure goals would start coming in then, look at us thats where we expose most teams by using the full width of the pitch.
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To Happy Baggie – please grow up. You preach about our fans going on your pages, then come out with that.
The last time you were regularly heard of was when you were above us in the Championship that season………surprise surprise, now you are above us again, you are back.
Disappointing yesterday……..I do agree with some posts above and we need some changes, but at the end of the day, we should have had a point. We looked equally likely to get a winner and Villa should certainly have had 10 men for most of the 2nd half.
We really need some points in the next couple of games though before the killer 4 game run.
Would like to see us with Zubar, Mouyokolo, Hunt and Van Damme in the side, in their proper positions – ie 3 new boys in defence and Hunt to add some much needed creativity. We WILL be a strong side then. Time to keep the faith.
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Rob H you should start comcentrating on your own team insteas of worrying your little head over West Bromwich Albion.
I do agree with your point about MM and if I remember rightly he held the record for the team to be relegated with the least amount of points. He could smash that record hopefully.
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Just to waste some more time …
For all those who are slating Foley (who was at fault for the first goal), who do you want at RB? Obviously not Stearman (who others blame for the second) perhaps Zubar (who is injured) maybe Wardy should switch?.
See you all at Wigan…
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Here we go again…the doom and gloom merchants are out in force.. give MM a break would u.. so far has achieved more than all recent managers at wolves.. 6 games in and a lot of u already have us relegated.. would be funny to see u all saying MM best manager ever if we won next 2 games And got 2 or 3 points from the following 4 games after that.
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still in september and already the next two matches are MUST MUST MUST WIN games . by the time we play wigan a week today we could easily be bottom if results go against us next weekend as most of them have this weekend gone , then it’s west ham on 16th . defeat in those 2 games , heaven forbid , would almost certainly condemn us to a 9 game losing streak with man united , man city , chelsea and arsenal to come . that worst case senario would give us only the 5 points we have already from 12 games which as near as damm it is one third of the season gone . this would mean that we would nead to take approx 33 points from the remaining 26 games which would be a massive ask . i’m not being negative – just realistic . lets get the 6 points from the next 2 games and take any point / s we have from the next four as bonus points
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I’m very upset to hear of Guediora’s broken leg following Sidwell’s reckless tackle.
I’m sure we’ll go back to one up front v Wigan….Team ?
Hahnemann
Stearman Craddock Berra Elokobi
Jarvis Henry Jones Mancienne van Damme [or Fletcher]
Doyle
Don’t know why Mancienne wasn’t involved on Sat….and he didn’t get on on Tues either. When we get points, it’s usually when he’s played a part.
Come on Wolves!
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With Guedioura now out for 4 months we are stuck with the likes of jones and edwards to rely on.
Anything less than 4 points from the next two games then Mick has to go.
Martin O’Neill please!
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Villa were very fortunate to win and once again poor refereeing. Warnock should have not been on the pitch and Sidwell’s challenge – that has put Guedioura out of action for 6 months – was not good.
When we have our full strength squad minus Kightly we could beat most of the league but the stand ins are not up to the task! It might be time to drop Berra and Jones and go with a side like this when they are all fit:-
Hahnemann Zubar Craddock Mouyokolo Van Damme Jarvis Henry Milijas Hunt Fletcher Doyle
The biggest question marks would be – Mouyokolo, Van Damme and Miljas. The remainder are quality!
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Obviously the team is punching above their weight . The reality is that a relegation battle has already begun . Another two defeats and all belief will be gone .
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128 – if you don’t understand the irony of LW moaning about posters using false names then you aint been on our pages mate.
Not sure what it is I said that you disaprove of – I have no need to mock your result / team / manager ect ect….. 130 wolves posters on here have done that already.
Cheer up.
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91,
Who on here is bothered about how mant injuries Arsenal have got????
If you want to talk about the albion, I think you should just be congratulating them on a great win. Nothing else.
And perhaps you should be concentrating on us, as we have just lost our 3rd on the trot & had one of our better player effectively ruled out for the season.
Disapointed & Concerned
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It is nice to read the above comments,as I have endured a torrid time from the likes of WOLFMAN,RAMJAG,who call themselves wolves fans,as all along I have been saying”GET RID MICKO”we owe him nothing for getting us up,especially when you can see that the man is not able to improve the team.
I am not a manager but I have always questioned WARD’S inclusion even when we win,as he is an obvious liability,THE last three games have been LOST at his end.He is consistent in letting players beat him and cross,makes rash tackles and passes the ball to the opposition.Yes there are other players who do this but not to the high levels WARD does.YET mick keeps picking him!Why?
Yet SEB may not be great but he was starting to look a threat and is our only GOALSCORER and he is not even getting on as sub!Yet micko was the one who was saying how sharp SEB is the guy scores and guess what he is out of the team for DOYLE!!When did he last score????//.These are just two reasons mick should pack up and please leave.MARTIN O’NEIL will do,he wont play players out of position and as a more fairer system in that you dont just have to be grafter.Attackers will attack,defenders will defend,midfielders will play both sides of the green.
Jones is doing damage to the team also by trying to be the dribbler going nowere.
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MARTIN O’NEAL as gafferhave you lost it completely !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Theres no way I would want the spoilt little sod at Wolves. just cause he cant spend money that isnt there he quits days before the season starts, just the type of manger we need,
i’d rather have Mcgoo back in charge !!!!!!!
up the wolves !!!!!!!!!!!!
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number one, as for Martin O’Neil?!?!? are you joking?!? he left Villa ’cause of their ‘lack of ambition to break into the top 4′, there’s no way he’d come to us.
number two, long balls and no control is no good. causes sub-standard players to panic when the pressures put on them.. i mean.. Dave Jones. HOW MANY TOUCHES DOES HE NEED TO CONTROL THE BALL?!?! c’mon man, you can play better than that. Karl Henry – don’t be scared to feed a few balls down the flanks or through the middle to, what i think, are two awesome strikers!!
i do think we’ve got a better team with a few players coming back from injury. i do think we have a manager capable of keeping us in this division. i do think the tesco’s played well on saturday, but this is football don’t forget. the season is long, injuries and form will count, squad sizes will be tested, so until saay… Christmas time, let’s not get tooo panicky. Just keep plugging away.
Look at the fulham game. i think we were unlucky. Look at the Newcastle game. i think we were denied a stonewall penalty which could’ve finished em. look at the Spurs game – if not for the ‘carry-on’ defending in the last 5mins, we have to appreciate we did well against a Champions League team.
Lets not panic JUST yet… if we find ourselves 4-0 down at Wigan, i may have to appraise what i’m about to say but… in Mick we trust!!!
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Amazing 3 defeats 2 of which were away and 1 poor performance at home and its time to hit the panic button. It still amazes me how so many fans, that have been proved wrong in the last four years, at the first sign of trouble want to get rid of the people who have got us to where we are. What’s wrong with sticking behind people who have do well for this club in the past and show a bit of loyalty. UTW.
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Next 2 games are vital in defining the course of this season. Our midfield was overrun in the first half, and just shows that we do not have the team to play 4-4-2. We need to first consolidate, then think about winning. Just a thought, both Elokobi and Ward are out of their depths in the PL, would put Mancienne in there, remember him playing excellent when he played there against sheff utd, after Ward was taken to the cleaners by Dyer. Lets hope Hunt comes back early October.
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142. reading the posts I think most are just fed up with inept tactics, and what seems to be obvious favouritism for the certain few,…I agree far too early to hit the panic button but my concern long term is that the sytle of footbal M.M. insists on playing is turning fans away,…if the club think the gates are down because of the recession they need to get their heads out the sand as the 12 or so people i know who didnt renew this season only 1 was because of finance, the rest were sick of the way we were playing, at the prices we charge people want some entertainment!! …M.M. is a P.R. disaster and clipboard, well enough said about him,..and im afraid they have taken us a far as they can.
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HB I have no idea what intricacies go on in the dark mirth of the Baggies pages……..
I’m merely commenting that you seem to appear at such times as I have mentioned above.
The usual thing today of people moaning because we’ve lost…..I’m sure the same happens on the Baggies pages too.
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craddock too slow.some say we are going down its a bit early to say that but i will say letting in late goals is not the way to stay up. craddock too slow !!!!!!!!
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145 wolf in nottingham.
Up to a few weeks ago I was as much in the dark about the Wolves pages as you are about the Baggies,but after being bombarded by idiotic,childish comments from the majority, not all, Wolves “fans” that post on our sites I tried in vain to ask politely if they would desist from trespassing.
It was then I crossed paths with Billy the Fish,I get more sense out of my pet donkeys,
The only sensible thing he said was you had more idiots than us.
I am of the older generation of Baggies fan so my pet dislike was the Villa,cause in my hay day you were under the Corner Shop Brigade and nearly down and out,then in stepped your sugar daddy to save you.But because of your idiot”my dad is bigger” fans(as I’ve said not all) I’ve changed my preference,so as you can imagine,although there is along way to go,I’m very happy today.
Adeu
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Mr Morgan
Take a long hard look at where we were 2 seasons ago and now in the premier, how much have you given MM to spend and he continues to play players out of position- plays inept player and deporable tactics – we should have taken at least4 points from the last 3 games. We desperately need to win the next 2 games or TBH i fear the worst, get a better coach in for starters – why hoof the ball long all the time, doyle and fletch are both better to feet – Concerned get them to learn to shoot from outside the box, yes you are allowed to do that!!! But all in all Wolves as a club promised so much when going up its now time to start delivering…
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I have to agree with many comments on this page, however i have a few observations i’d like to air:
1. Before a ball was kicked this season im sure everyone would have taken, a win against stoke, draw away to everton, draw with newcastle. The next 3 results should be summed up as follows, lost to uefa cup finalists, lost to a champions league team and lost to a team that have finished 6th in PL 3 seasons on the spin. The kick in the nads is that we should have had anything from 5 pts to 9 pts out of these games! A minimum return from the next 6 games is 4 pts – i know this will still put us behind the tescos but we have 2 periods within the season where pts can be maximised. We couldn’t have chosen a better run in, so as long as were in contention with 10 games to go i have no fear.
2. This season has always been a relegation battle. The 3 teams that have come up are superior to the 3 that went down. We finsished with 38 pts last season that probably won’t be good enough this season. I don’t care where we finish as long as a) it’s not bottom 3 and b) we improve on last seasons points tally.
3. We are suffering as a result of missing players – Zubar and VD should be our full backs, Mouyokolo should replace Berra, Hunt at LM Jarvis at RM. Playing 442 against all but the top 5 teams who we should then play 451 with Mancienne coming into the midfield.
4. Finally, we are discriminated against big time on the Ref front. I seem to recall stone wall penalties being overlooked last season. We shouldn’t, but i think we have to accept it – we aint getting nothing! How many did we get last season 1/2?
In summary, it’s early days there is a lot of football to be played. Keep the faith. I maintain that MM has improved every season since taking over – need him to this season for certain!
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It’s all well and good saying don’t panic, but as has been said the same players(favourites)making the same mistakes and obviously out of their depth, gifting goals to the opposition, yes it’s early in the season and no i don’t expect us to finish in the top ten, but the plan MM has at the moment seems to be a one way ticket to the Championship, the grafters he loves are not cutting it, we have better players, quality players, we should be using and in their correct positions we hope Mick ! Hunt cant come back soon enough for me and will hopefully bring more creativity to team, why is Mouyokolo not playing yet, and whats up with Zubar and Miljas ? get it sorted, i hope and pray we are not bottom Xmas, we all know the stats on that one, we have a tough run coming up and on current form we don’t have a chance against the top guns, i hate to say it Hat’s off to the Baggies they seem to have found a formula that’s working, so why on Earth can’t we ?
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The last three games should have yielded at least three points.All three games were lost in the last few minutes.WAKE UP WOLVES-YOU ARE PLAYING IN THE PREMIER LEAGUE NOW!Wolves have now put a lot of pressure on themselves for the next two games which are must win games as we are unlikely to get anything from the following four games.If they don’t.then there is the possibility of them being rooted at the bottom of the table.Time to stand up and be counted and play for 90 minutes!
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In response to the rose tinted spectacle wearers making out it’s not as bad as it looks-the following are facts all LEAGUE stats.
Heskey, 4 goals in 12 months!
Villa, 1 away win this season 2 defeats 1 being 6-0!
Fulham, only 1 win so far this season!
Spurs, only 1 win and 3 goals scored this season at home and 1 win,1 draw and 2 defeats from last 4 against wigan,albion,west ham and us!
Now it might be a bit early to panic but with the run of games coming up if we carry on as we are we will soon be rock bottom.
We are all entitled to our opinions and i will always support whoevever is managing or playing for us but as much as i appreciate what he has done for us MM is not good enough at this level for all of the reasons mentioned by many others.
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147. I did not say we had more idiots than you, I stated we all had our fair share of idiots, you however, have the biggest idiots in terry and jack, to which you agreed. You then got told off for actually agreeing with a Wolves fan and have been backtracking ever since.
Cya and all that…
(Oh and ref your pet donkeys, any chance we could borrow one to play full back?)
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153 billythefish.
To put the record straight,I’m definitely not backtracking,I still think Sir Terry’s obsession with the dingle’s is idiotic and childish but after crossing swords with you his comments seem intellectual genius.That’s my opinion,he probably thinks the same of me,that’s life.
I don’t think I said Jack was an idiot,I threatened to tell the teacher if the two of you didn’t stop fighting in the playground.
You did say you have more idiots,which becomes more evident by the minute.
When I stupidly posted my plea on your site,you answered,I haven’t been posting on these sites for as long a many others,so I wasn’t aware of your reputation.
Your answer to my plea was to immediately post on a WBA site,I new then I was flogging a dead horse,so I’ll never enter “my dad” posts but I will interfere on Dingle sites.If you can’t beat ‘em.
I do have a donkey that could play full back but I’m afraid he would be your best player,stand out a mile and some big club would come in for him with an offer you couldn’t refuse in your present predicament.
Adeu
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tactical genius old mick take a fullback off put a centre half in his place bound to win you the game when your searching for a goal. ps who needs forwards. IDIOT SPRINGS TO MIND
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Hi guys,just like to thank most wolfies for their comments on our fantastic result,think alot of you forget how far MM has brought your club since he took over,mid-table championship side with aging players into a fairly well equiped side. Would like to know how many of your current starting eleven would get into ours?Struggling to think of maybe more than jarvis,and he would probably have to be content with a place on the bench.,doyle,fletcher dont seem to be getting any service,but your all hoping for hunt,but going to take him probably new year before fully fit.Think you need min 4 points out of next two fixtures.P.S hope all midlands teams stay up.
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Kev allow me to to retort.
I did not say we had more idiots than you, simple as..
As for my ‘reputation’ this I believe is because one of your posters (who himself appears a bit dim, Cantello) stated that I was one of the worst blah blah blah. If you take his opinion as gospel then fair play.
It allways strikes me with you bennies that you can give it out but cannot take it back, you only have to look at the amount of messages from Wolves fans congratulating you on your excellent start to the season and performance against Arsenal. Would that be reciprocated? no i didn’t think so…
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I feel a sense of deja vu! The same people were saying this time last year we are down already, and you were wrong. You will be wrong again this year MARK MY WORDS! If we did go down id hold my hands up and say I was wrong, unlike you idiots. As for the team, Ward MUST be dropped, Milijas has to get involved (this time last year he contributed towards lots of goals), and Id have a look at Mouyokolo instead of Berra.
Cmon Mick prove the doubters wrong….AGAIN FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME!!!
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Billy
I’ll take as much as you want to throw and I did say,not all Wolves fans!
Speak to you soon.
Adeu
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