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Fulham 2 Wolves 1
Saturday 11th September 2010, 5:05PM BST.
Battling Wolves suffered last minute heartbreak as they crashed to their first defeat of the season at Fulham.
The visitors looked like hanging on in a poisonous atmosphere at Craven Cottage, where the locals harangued Mick McCarthy’s men for perceived rough house tactics.
But Moussa Dembele’s 90th minute free-kick – after Christophe Berra was dismissed for two bookable offences – won it for Fulham.
Dembele had earlier equalised Jelle Van Damme’s 10th minute opener but Fulham’s victory was marred by a serious ankle injury to Bobby Zamora – who was stretchered off in the first-half.
Michael Mancienne replaced David Jones, who dropped to the bench, for his first start since re-signing on loan from Chelsea last month.
And Wolves were instantly under pressure but Clint Dempsey’s dive in the box went unpunished, before Jody Craddock was lucky not to concede a penalty after tripping Simon Davies.
But the visitors stunned Craven Cottage after 10 minutes in controversial style.
The hosts were screaming for a free-kick after Kevin Doyle wrestled with Brede Hangeland on the right but their cries went unanswered.
It allowed Doyle to turn and send over a teasing cross which evaded Sylvan Ebanks-Blake but found the onrushing van Damme to fire home at the far post.
The goal came against the run of play and, undaunted, Fulham continued to press with Zamora a constant threat – before he was stretchered off with a serious ankle injury on 29 minutes.
The England striker crumpled under Karl Henry’s challenge – where the Wolves captain won the ball – but in the tangle Zamora’s right leg buckled.
Former Albion star Zoltan Gera replaced the stricken striker and, understandably, the Cottagers’ momentum was hit.
Danny Murphy smashed a free-kick over, before John Pantsil was booked for tripping Doyle as the striker threatened to go clean through just before the break.
The atmosphere then turned nasty as the hosts become increasingly frustrated, with Henry coming in for special attention from both the crowd and Fulham’s players.
Steven Fletcher replaced van Damme at the break, but Wolves were pegged back after 49 minutes when former Birmingham target Dembele latched onto a loose ball and steered it in into the corner.
It breathed new life into the Cottagers and Gera acrobatically volleyed over.
Wolves survived another penalty scare when Davies tangled with goalkeeper Marcus Hahnemann, before Chris Baird blocked Doyle’s goal-bound header in a rare Wolves chance.
Fulham had the edge but the game remained open and goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer tipped Matt Jarvis’ cross over on 70 minutes.
But, just as Wolves looked on course for a deserved point, Berra was dismissed for a second booking in injury time and Dembele dispatched a 25-yard free-kick into the bottom corner.
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gutted! 1 nil up and we throw it away, sad to hear bobby zamora has a broken ankle hope he recovers soon always horrible to hear a serious injury
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gera…………………
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DESERVED DRAW? What game were you watching we were awful!!!We are the new STOKE!STYLE OF PLAY IS AWFUL..MICKO CONTINUES TO PLAY PLAYERS OUT OF POSITION AND EIGHT OF THEM ARE DEFENSIVE PLAYERS!!I HAVE SAID BEFORE THIS STYLE IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU MUCH..TAKE BLACKPOOL FOR EXAMPLE THEY PLAY WITH FLAIR AND BEAT NEWCASTLE EASILY YET WE WERE LUCKY TO GET A DRAW YET WE WERE AT HOME AND HARDLY CREATED A CHANCE ITS WORRYING.YET WE WILL GET PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM MICKO SAVED US FROM THE DROP!!!SO WHAT WE WERE NEVER IN DANGER AS THERE WERE A FEW TEAMS JUST AS POOR AS US.
STRANGE THING IS WE HAVE THE PLAYERS TO BE ATLEAST A LITTLE POSITIVE…I PREDICT MICKO WILL GO .HE IS AN HONEST AND A HARD WORKER BUT HE IS THE MOST NEGATIVE MANAGER IN THE LEAGUE.
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im sorry but berra is a liability hes an idiot this should mean myakolo will now take over and keep him out for the rest of the season hopefully
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Whereas I was pleased to see Wolves competing physically, today it was a push too much. Never mind. First defeat and still in the top half!
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Feel completely mugged by that.
Despite super micks best efforts to throw the points away with some bizarre second half tactical changes and the blatant cheating by fulham and the ref we still came close to the point we deserved.
Clint demspey spent more time on his backside today than he did on his feet
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The only good think to come of todays match is Berra’s suspension?
I hope whoever comes in plays well enough to keep him out.
He can’t even get in Scotlands team and it’s a toss up who is the Premiers worst defender, him or Bramble.
Before you accuse me of picking on him cus he got sent off ALL my previous thread have stated he is a liability.
Get rid of him.
Better still loan him to the Albion.
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Mick ! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE cut out the thugish tactics NOW, pundits on the TV , Radio and Press are slating the tactics, return to the Wolves basic approach (Pass & Move) Survival is the first option, points for points we are probably in a simaler position (Against Teams Played) as last season, YET? We have a better squad.
Keep the FAITH {UTW}
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Deserved point? what game were you watching.Totally outplayed,Our totally inept tactically manager got it all wrong with starting eleven, unbelievable substitutions,1-0 up after being outplayed goes 4-3-3,having spent 35 million in two years we still have a championship starting eleven.Ward a left back he’s having a laugh, craddock Berra 100 per cent but out of their depth.Midfield completely exposed.
Doyle superb again so why take him off?
Until this man takes off his blinkers and clipboard is replaced with a proper coach i can see only a long hard season ahead of us.
Mr Morgan ask this man why he asked you for 35 million but refuses to play the right player in the right position.
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Can’t comment on the overall performance as I didn’t see the game, but by my reckoning, their winner is the fourth goal we’ve conceded from a set-piece in four games this season. That’s disappointing, as our Hard Work ethic will count for nothing if we can’t get the basics right.
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your jokin aye ya welsh boy this is mccarthy we are talkin about,by the way didnt c the match and didnt listen 2 it on te radio did guadiora play,,,,,WE ARE WOLVES,,,,ilk
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I’m afraid I agree with 3, Wolves were woeful: outclassed in every area of the game and completely incapable of holding onto the ball. Fulham were simply a better team and if Ward ever got near to his men it was only at the end to shake hands. With a couple of minutes to go the inability to string two passes together cost us dear – hands up for that one Mr Mancienne – and Berra’s tackle was both stupid and a disgrace. It’s all very well being hard, but you’ve got to play football as well. This was, frankly, awful.
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We are the next stoke……
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the next stoke dont u need the next Wimbeldon……..
Is Berra the next Vinne Jones.
I hope it can act as he cant tackle
Sort it out mick or do we have to go French like Villa
UTW
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David Jones replaced by Mancienne ?? send him back to chelsea, never rated him and never will.. To slow and cant pass,, agree with number 8 lay off bully tackticks and play football
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we are the new wimbledon thugs of old
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Wolves are the worst time to ever grace the premier league.
Eveyone now are starting to slate them for there poor gamesmanship and thugish attitude.
Disgrace!!! Sooner out the league the better!!
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Watched game online,we deserved to loose.With regard to Wolves being kickers-it is a load of tosh.If they had tried harder they might have done better.Fulham battled hard,but had more ideas.
Glad to see Berra suspended-he is carried by Craddock,and too slow for this league.Van Damme is looking to be a class act,hope he is ok.
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Listen mick it’s simple, Doyle is out best player do not sub him unless he is injured. SEB was woeful, cannot trap the ball and looked too slow. We gave up the midfield too easily, why start with mancienne and not adlene or jones?we lost the midfield all game. Berra was a liability all game. Thank god we have jarvis. Fulham are an ordinary team and we made them look like brazil.
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im not going to slate us but I said last season that the negative, non entertaining tactics we used to stay up would tell this season on season ticket/match day sales and I was right,..now it looks like we are going to use rough house tactics to snatch points where we can.
McCarty lets play some football,..we pay good money to watch and if we go down trying so be it, you wont hear me complaining. If we have another season like last and do stay up im afraid you will see even more people staying away.
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So disappointed, a few weeks ago I said that Berra & Craddock needed replacing, and Henry fouled too much and mouthed off at the Ref too often, I had a few personal comments about my post telling me I didn’t know what I was talking about Mmmmm.
Well Players out of position again.
Henry’s tackle for the second week was appalling and intended to take the player out and he is our Captain, Berra & Craddock are too slow, sloppy goal, midfield very poor.
The Manager didn’t think we were too physical! 6 cards and a sending off says something different,
If he dosen’t get a grip we will have players sent off every week, and lose matches the hard games are coming our way.
Hope that Bobby Zamora is not as injured a feared.
Malta Wolves Spot on!!!!
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oh fgs can you grow up, wasnt long ago when we were unbeaten in 11 prem games until today, did any of you moan about the tactics then, NO xatly, we came back n got a point against everton a few weeks back , so typicalm one loss and u all turn against mick, look whos kept us here, dont forget that, grow up
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You’re a fickle lot.
Come on the Wolves
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Just saw the replay of the second goal. Whoever was in that wall needs to be given a stern dressing down.
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Can’t help feeling we lost the game by replacing Van Damme for Fletcher.
Assuming Van Damme was injured, why not replace him at half time with Guedioura?
Playing with 3 strikers is a very cavalier strategy but surely wrong when we are one up away from home.
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it is getting to annoy me now. match of the day and sky pundits think we r dirty and of course we are. the amount of bookings given out someone was always going to get sent off. berra deserved to be but the two worst challenges were at the death by fulham players and one went unpunished. premier league you are having a laugh!
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This has been coming. Everton should have scored 4 in the first half, and Newcastle would have been out of sight if Carroll had bought his shooting boots. We are a very poor side. McCarthy has squandered millions , while Iwelumo scores a hat trick for Burnley ( I wonder which club thinks they got the best deal out of that one!) We carry on with that carthorse Berra in defence, that lame Ward at left back, and we have a trio of the lowest ever scoring forwards to ever pull on the shirt. We are going backwards ( not as though we went forward much) quickly now, and, have a look at the fixtures and tell me where the next win is coming from. I bet the Baggies can’t wait for their usual easy 3 points when we roll over and meekly surrender. MCCARTHY OUT!!!!
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I posted recently that we should play the game like men, hard but fair, and not be pushed around by the stronger, more physical teams.
What a discusting performance of agression and thug like play, not wanted at Wolves, the yellow cards received by our team was a joke, we were lucky only to get one red.
The players are totally confused playing in positions outside their comfort zones, and the talent we have is not being used.
Stand up McCarthy, You are to blame for this rubbish, you are the worst manager in the Premiership, move on or change now. These players do not need a fool for a Manager.
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berra 100% idiot
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i have never liked thick mick he should go,and take berra, ward with him,and who is this fletcher the £7 million man what a waist of money we are no better than last year,please mr morgan open your eyes.
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i agree with post 3.
We played football on the first day of the season and beat stoke, since then we have become a team intent on trying to become the next stoke.
This is not going to help our cause as referee’s will pick up on us and book us out of existance. What is it now 13 yellows and one red in two matches. Berra cost us a point but MM tactics cost us three.
7 or 8 defensive players on the pitch, no idea or flair in midfield as it looks like mick HAS GOT A SAD ON WITH DAVE JONES AGAIN. Why play mancienne in that position he should be in centre defence. Why not change to 4-5-1 in the second half as fulham were all over us and we are lucky it was only 2-1 and luckier still to have ten players on the pitch at the end.
Disgusted with the tactics, wake up and smell the roses, otherwise we will have every other teams fans singing that we are a “disgrace to the premiership”
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sorry but muppet does not want players who can
play just those who put a shift in.
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Mick should take responsibility for the defeat.He made the wrong changes
at half time.For a start it would help if he signed someone last summer who could actually play 90 minutes .Moving Doyle wide right was a big mistake.Doyle is one of the best central strikers in the league:keep him there.Playing Doyle wide right he failed to stop the cross for the first goal.Stearman at right back and Foley right midfield would have plugged the gap.Of course we should have signed a decent right sided midfielder in the summer.Jarvis proved yet again he is better on the left.
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Yesterday was a poor performance. And the defensive tactics were baffling. Where was Giuderoa????????????????????
Why take Doyle and Jelle off????
As for the thug bandwaggon. Please we were not dirty. Please gain a little perspective. Zamoras leg was broken has he fell. The tackle was not even a foul.
Fulham were totally ovber the top with there constant whinging over every tackle or challenge that went in.
If you do not retain the ball you are inevitably going to make fouls and receive yellow cards. But it was down to poor ball retension not thuggish tacticts.
Mancienne was AWFUL. And should not play again for a long time. Get Adelene in now.
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I think Mick McCarthy is a great manager, however, he got the team selection wrong from the start then made it worse with his substitutions. Dropping Dave Jones for MM and playing 4-4-2 meant that there was no way we would be able to retain possession in the middle. Equally, sitting back and allowing Danny Murphy time and space is a recipe for defeat. What made it worse was MM was clearly off the pace and did not play in the defensive midfield position he has previously played in, resulting him either chasing shadows of giving possession away. I’m a Michael Mancienne fan but is was a poor decision to start him.
The second half started poorly and we were lucky to hold on until the last minute. Playing 3 strikers is a recipe for disaster when we should have been solid in middle. I can only hope that Van Damme’s substitution was down to a minor injury. Then when we needed strikers, two had been taken off.
All in all, a poor afternoon and one I would say was partly down to Mick’s poor selection. Or is it that expectation has grown and I was gutted leaving the ground having been one up and dreaming of 3 points. It’s a cruel game at times. Good wishes to Bobby Zamora and hopefully he’ll be back soon.
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We were outplayed in every department and only Jarvo and Jelle played with any kind of threat. So cant understand why Jelle was taken off. Nor why Doyle was taken off instead of SEB who had a poor game.
Surely Adlene is better than Mancienne in mid-field right now and why not give Nemed another go? He has the class and creativity that’s sorely lacking from our team. With Henry and Adlene beside him, they could feed him when we win the ball to create chances. His shooting and ball delivery at set-pieces is second to none at the club. He is wasted on the bench.
I would have thought that the best way to play with the squad we’ve got would be to have five in mid-field with one of the strikers, Doyle or Fletcher (not SEB), playing a free role between the mid-field and lone striker. Two dedicated players up front as in 4-4-2, just leaves the mid-field exposed when the attack breaks down.
We have to stop the long punts and build from the back like most of the other Premiership teams are doing. This is the modern way to play; we have to keep the ball and be more patient.
Our defense, with Berra and Ward is our weak link. Jelle has to replace Ward at the back sooner or later. It is patently obvious that Ward doesnt have the defensive skills, he backs off too much and isnt that great going forward either. How he is a regular starter is anyone’s guess.
Berra seriously lacks pace – hence all the shirt-pulling and fouling, which puts the team under pressure and can costs us games as yesterday.
Zubar or the new guy we bought from Hull when fit are the obvious choices but Mancienne may be a contender as he is speedy, nippy and good on the ball. Craddock will make up for the brawn that he currently lacks.
Welcome back to the Premiership!
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Concerned MM cant see the problems his team selections are creating with his insistence to play his favourites. Ward is not a left back, Craddock and Berra are too slow. We have some quality players but the reluctance to play them is costing us dear and will continue to do so. No creativity or drive in midfield. Full backs who have never heard of going forward apart from Zubar and he can’t even get a game. Ebanks is much better than last year but is not cutting it at this level. Sorry MM but putting in a shift does not make you Prem class and it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see why we are dubbed the physical team. Come on lads show us you are better than this.
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Here we go again.Last season I said McCarthy was not good enough because what he bought was crap and he was tactically inept.I got slated for my comments.Towards the end of the season I thought maybe I was wrong and slowly began to believe McCarthy was a better manager than I had thought.One or two decent buys and I thought we are at last showing some improvement.What a mistake,again we are tactically up a blind alley and McCarthy is obviously a believer of thuggery,not robust play as he puts it.Henry doesn`t have the skills needed in a top defender and is trying to intimidate the opposition and because of this we are quickly building the wrong sort of reputation.Mick,if this is all you can cunjure up then it really is time for you to go.Do you realise that thuggery on the pitch leads to thuggery off the pitch.Go now McCarthy and give someone a chance to build a team we can be proud of while there is still time.Go,Go,Go..
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I thought we were holding our own in the first half in a backs to the wall manner, after Van Damme went off we lost shape a bit. I don’t think we were that strong armed the baying crowd added to the frequency of bookings. This was our worst league performance yet, gave away possession too easily.
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mick your substitution,s were wrong lost us the game stop picking your favourites play your players in the right positions
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WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH.
OUTCLASSED AT EVERTON..BUT HELD ON FOR A POINT. OUTPLAYED AT HOME BY NEWCASTLE..BUT HELD ON FOR A POINT. AND YESTERDAY AFTER BEING OUTCLASSED YET AGAIN..THE OPPOSITION DESERVEDLY GOT THE THREE POINTS.
CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME.. 18 MILLION WASTED IN THE SUMMER ON CROCKS THAT ARN’T EVEN FIT TO PLAY OR WEAR THE SHIRT. ONLY MCARTHY COULD SPEND A RECORD AMOUNT ON PLAYERS THAT MAKE THE SIDE WORSE THAN LAST SEASON.
NO WONDER TICKET SALES ARE DOWN.. AND THEY’LL GO DOWN EVEN MORE, IF WE’RE EXPECTED TO PUT UP WITH TRIPE ON A REGULAR BASIS.
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I was at the game 1st half Van Dam was causing all sorts of problems for them, I felt we deserved to be up at half time, 2nd half not so good they played some neat footy and we couldnt really match it, I am gutted to lose but honestly if we had drawn they could have said ” we wuz robbed”. I also thought the ref was a little card happy to us and let some of the home side get awaywith similar fouls (perhap they aint had any bad press yet on match of the day) Shame about Zamora hope he recovers quickly.
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Its funny how, when we pick up a good result, its always excuses that come out of the moaners mouths, like, ‘oh, they did have 5 injured players so we was playing against there reserves’ or ‘theyre a rubbish team anyway, so if we didnt win mick would deserve the sack’. But when we lose its ‘were rubbish, and our manager is tactically innept’ or ‘these players arent good enough to play in the championship’
Well they were good enough last season, and his tactics were good enough to keep us in the league. This nonsense that we only stayed up because there were worst teams is ridiclous, if weve got a group of championship players, we should have gone down simple as.
All you moaners need to get a grip, its our second season, and as was stated clearly at the start of the campaign, survival will be good enough. Yes that means, we will lose a few games against teams like fulham, but hopefully we will take points from them as well. You call happy clappers deluded, yet your the ones that expect for a team to win every other game even though survival is our aim.
We were away from home to a decent side that were in europe last season, it was never going to be an easy game, and nor will the tottenham game. But i suppose anything less than a win at white hart lane will require Micks resignation in your eyes, you muppets.
Im not saying we didnt play poor, im just saying that more sensible wolves fans have a greater scope on our performances because we dont make snap judgments on a few games, we make a broader assessment, and thats why i can confidently say, 9th place after 4 games isnt a bad job at all.
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I never thought I would see the day where Wolves were accused of being a team of no talanted thugs…6 yellow and a red, plus a broken leg, ( which I understand was an accident) totally outclassed by a weakened Fulham…Wolves were an embarrassment on Saturday, and I can only hope that the Chief ‘thug’ in charge takes note.
He has to be the worst manager in the Premiership, playing players out of position, and supporting ‘thug type football’
I was at Fulham on Saturday, totally ashamed of my home team for the first time in 30 years of supporting them, and not too unhappy that we lost the game with these shameful tactics.
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It was bad yesterday, but wot we sposta do ? Dazzle the world with our team of multi million pound players or play to our strenths.Were new to this leauge and we do belong, but its gona take years to be able to play the football we would all love to see.
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So your reputation goes before you. Your first
red card and if you keep clogging you’ll have a lot more. That’s two players wolves have put in treatment rooms, when is this barbarism
going to stop? Mick. The farther you walk into the sea of fouls the deeper it gets untill it consumes you. Listen and be advised,
what you are teaching is nothing to do with football. when you meet the top teams you’ll be found wanting. You can’t afford to play those with ten men or less.
E&S,
You state: Former ALBION star Zoltan Gera replaced the stricken striker and understanably the Cottagers momentum was hit.
Pardon me, When Gera came on he took wolves to the cleaners. Talk about being biased!.
Anyway, I’ll be glad when we play the wolves
if they’ve got enough players to choose from.
JtH.
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Fulham probably just deserved it.
As for being thugs I did not see too much that really deserved the many yellows we got, nothing was over the top just hard graft and letting people know we are there.
Murphy hada little look evrytime he received the ball just incase Karl was on him.
Ref missed them going in with studs showing on a couple of occassions, that was more of a problem than our tackling.
We need to cut the holding out, and Berra should go back to the drawing board when it comes to tackling.
As for Zamora I hope we all wish him well.
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Slightly worried that Mick is scared to bring in any new signings, and stick to a very defensive mentality, and not getting drawn into a football match.
Ward is not a left back.
Van Damme should be left back.
Jarvis is not a right winger.
Guidiora should be in centre midfield.
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we lost a hard fought point over berras rash challenges and very poor defending for the free kick.What kind of wall was that? If they had stood together they would have blocked the shot.
we have some tougher games coming up at spurs,villa etc and this point could had cushioned us from dropping down the table.good goal by van damme though and we had the better of the first half but under MM we only seem to be able to score once, and if the opposition equalise the game can easily turn against us.
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Fickle fans are out in force.One loss and its all doom and gloom.You lot have had to wait quite a while for this opportunity.
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i’m gutted, are we deserved a point and lost not over berra’s thinking this was a rugby game but over the way we defended the free kick at the end.
this season will be tougher than last as the sides that have come up are holding there own. We have some tougher games coming up but i’ll give it another 5 games and then see where we are
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Jelle Van Damme was our man of the match and he went off at half time the rest of the back four i wouldn’t pay in washers utw
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Please note that after five games….
1. We have let every team start better and take the initiative.
2. EB has scored two but not contributed to team play.
3. We are the dirtiest team in the league.
4. We do not seem to have a game plan except to stop the opposition from playing.
Question
Why was Doyle playing out right with SEB as centre forward?
Why wasn’t Mancienne given a bench start first to help him get up to speed. On saturday he was lost.He is not better than Jones.
Why don’t we play someone who can put his foot on the ball and dominate midfield?
WHY oh WHY have we not ‘kicked on’ from last year. October fixtures from hell draws closer.
Finally if we don’t Kick on well martin O’Neil is available isn’t he.
I love Mick but Saturday was a massive disappointment.
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At least mouyokolo will have the opportunity to get Berra out of the team for good. Both his yellow cards were stupid. The player had kicked the ball past him and was going to be swept up by another defender but Berra still blocked the striker’s run off. Pointless and stupid.
Now I’m no McCarthy hater, admitted I wasn’t fond of him before Christmas but I think the job he did with us last season was superb, but some of his dcisions yesterday left me baffled. We had an unbeaten start to the campaign with a strong midfield partnership of Jones and Henry, so why does he change it?! With Mancienne in for Jones it left us without any invention in the middle of the park. Also we’ve spent money on Van Damme as a Left back, so play him as a left back. Forget ward. We can then put Jarvis back on the left where he is most effective. I assume Van damme got injured and that is why he came off, but why on earth did Fletcher come on?! I know we have spent 7 mill on him but that doesn’t necessarily mean he has to play. Its just his bad luck that doyle and seb are in such good form. by bringing him on Doyle had to go out wide where he struggled to make an impact. Surely the logical substitution would have to put Jones or Goudiohre on.
Woth a bit of luck Tottenham will be keeping an eye on the champions league when we play them next week. And who knows we did do the double over them last season but realistically I feel we will be struggling in the next to games.
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Here we go the moaners are out, and Albion fans pretending to be wolves posting on here again.. Yes today wasn’t the best performance,we have played 4 and lost 1 and were a minute away from doing what man utd did at fulham a few weeks ago ( getting a point ). I’m disappointed yet again van damme went off and it seemed to change the shape of the game and we conceeded goals, be good to see him when fully fit play a full 90 mins,cus he looks a quality player, hunt and a few others to get back yet, lost one in 4, in the top half of the prem, above the Albion and way better home and attendances than they could ever dream off.. Things are not that bad. Keep the faith and get behind the boys. and albion fans pretending to be wolves, get a life and follow your own team, or better still get yourself down to the poorthorns because by the looks of your first 2 home gates, you need all the support you can get.
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38 – congratulations.
Of all the moronic posts on here yours must the the worst.
One poor performance and you want Mick out? What an absolute tool you are.
I bet your fingers have been hovering over the keyboard for the last 6 months, just waiting for a chance to jump on the bandwagon with all the other idiots so you could slate Mick.
Saturday was disappointing. Fine – everyone knows it but your brainless (Henry is a midfielder not a defender), kneejerk comments make you look a complete clown. Has Super Mick upset you in a previous life?
You utter pillock.
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We were two deep second half and we paid for it. I think we struggle to hold the ball up with out doyle in the team. I just hope we can get some points out of the next couple of tough games. If we don’t I think we could find ourselves in the bottom six. We have had a good season so far but we have lacked that killer touch in some games. I am hoping that Mick will drop Ward and play Van Damme at left back.
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All this talk about being a team of thugs is ridiculous. Berra yellows wernt from brutality, but stupidity. Blocking someones path is hardly taking someone out is it. Manciennes yellow was from a little tug on a shirt, which probably shouldnt have even been a yellow. Henrys yellow was from talking back to the ref, maybe his words crippled him? We all know jarvis and jones arent thugs, they just arent defensive players and therefore there tackling is always going to be subject to debate. Which leaves wards yellow, which was a yellow simple as that.
The tackle on zamora was a fantastic challenge, the injury was just a freak accident. Its funny how putting things in perspective sorts out the fans from the baffoons. Our team is full of the most honest decent players in the league, which often goes against them but i wouldnt have it any other way. We dont dive like a bunch of cheating premadonnas, we dont have after match brawls with the opposition, and before our last two games we had picked up just 2 yellows. Talk about impressionable.
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Mick,
Just read your blog (Cottage industry).
Are you that unconcerned about your players welfare?. Is that the respect you give them. Begorra, if that’s how you feel, get some help. JtH.
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I have always thouight MM to be a poor manager and he is once again proving me right. His team selections and the way we are now playing football sorry we are not playing football we are now a dirty, thugish team. WARD, BERRA, JONES, HENRY are totaly inefective we have no mid-field so consequently create no chances and have to resort to foul play.If we are to stay in the top flight we have got to change the managment, once again he has waisted millions of pounds. Time for a change MR MORGAN.
Just seemn the dumb brums play and do you remember JOHNSTON and DANN who we could have signed but would not pay that little bit extra. they were superb, look what we brought instead. Irest my case.
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I don’t think it is the the defeat that is the problem. Having said that I’m very disappointed we didn’t pick up 3 points at Fulham because that is what we should be targeting at these clubs with the squad we have. It is more the manner of our defeat & style of play that is causing concern. Playing hard & fair is ok (ask Paul Scholes & a few other thugs in the EPL) but we are now being seriously targeted by the the Referees. There is no way this will change this season now, as once labelled, thats it! Last season as newbies to the league we couldn’t win stone wall penalties (is it still the same this year)? Now we are thugs & opposition players will chase the ref around the pitch & get into his ear what they think & want to say to influence them. I’m sure we are better than that & please god don’t revert to “hoofball”. Play football as it should be played. What price Blackpool to stay up with the way they are adapting to the EPL. Just maybe in future can we also buy players who can play immediately & not have to wait for injury outcomes….
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1 Goalkeeper
6 Defenders
2 Midfielders
2 Strikers
This time Mad Mick has realy lost the plot !!!
Sort it out mick or get out !! start trying to do the most basic form of management by playing players in the position that you brought them in.By playing 6 defenders in anygame is not acceptable no mater what league you are in, you are just showing teams a weekness in our squad when we dont realy have one.
All these european footballers you keep bringing in try playing them mick.
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The hypocritical fans at Poison Cottage were a disgrace to the human race, let alone football. They went on 606 condemning us as animals!
Wolves played a hard but fair game, anything else was just error not bad intent. They were just as hard, but not so effective.
I can’t wait for us to get Fulham at home at the Golden Palace, as this has become unfinished business.
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I carnt believe the amount of ‘so called’ wolves fans and albion numpties that have come out of the wood work following our first defeat of the season…..get a grip people, all ur negativity is totally pathetic, you carnt win them all, dissappointed with the result and performance but we’ll bounce back…
Get well soon Bobby.Z……
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It’s official, we have the most thickle supporters in the country. It only takes 1 less than average display and a mass of fans think there is something fundamentally wrong at the club…”championship squad”, “mick is tactically inept” etc etc etc! the problem with you moaners is you havn’t got the stomach for a fight, which is what you have to do to compete in this league when you dont have chelsea’s or man city’s money. Fulham have 1 of the strongest home records in this league in recent seasons, yet we are expected to go there and play free flowing football and secure an easy 3 points. GET A GRIP! We do play nice football when it suits (1st half against stoke/jones goal v spurs last season and west ham away to mention a few), what will it take for you guys to be happy with the club we love at the minute??? I have been following Wolves for 20 years and this is by far the best things have been in that period. What do you want, the prof back in charge? the turnip? hoddle? mghee? I DESPAIR I REALLY DO!!!!!! thats my rant for the week!
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I see the fickle “i told you so’s” are back.
Haven’t seen a post on here for months from Southspank Barmy Army, Spanish roy, Jiwal etc. Well, you’ve been telling us so for season after season and have all got it wrong time and time again.
1) We were not thugs, at any stage. The two worst tackles came after we conceded the 2nd and were both from Fulham players. Berra deserved to go, and there were some deserved bookings, but not from thuggery.
2) Im a McCarthy fan, but even I was baffled by Doyle being out on the right, and in effect, SEB being up front on his own. Kinda hope MM is protecting Doyle and that if we do continue 442 that Fletch is up front with Doyle asap.
Also amazed we stareted with Henry and Mancienne. reminded me of Henry and Quashie at Reading in the promotion season. defensive and lacking in any creativity.
Despite this, I cant remember any clear cut chances for Fulham apart from the goals.
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Someone tell Stephen Fletcher you dont need a bottle of pain killers to stand still in the wall.
If he hadnt jumped,and turned sideways.
The ball would just have hit him on the knees.
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muppet was a muppet when he came so not going
to change, play 3 forwards but no midfield,
who going to create any thing only jones/milijas/guedioura not playing them, i said when he came only want player who put a
shift in not those who can play football.he said
when van damme came would play him at full back but no had to keep his boy in.
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The only player with a vision of the game coupled with class in his legs has started
only a couple of times for wolves. Says a
lot about the prevailing mentality. Suits
Serbia fine as risks of injury are thus minimised.
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Alex, My take on Doyle,is that managers/coaches get a fixation on one tactic and forget the basics.With Van Damme playing upfront wide,we hammer high balls up to him,this is crude but quite effective.Van Damme goes off at half time,so Mick moves Doyle wide right no doubt trying to replicate the tactic.It didn’t work but more worrying is that Doyle last season would have done a better job at stopping KeIly’s cross for the first goal.It is also worrying as others have said that Fletcher turned his back on that free kick,something that Mr Rae would never have done.
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Karl Herny laughing when berra got sent off says it all playing your pets again Mick please go!!
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This will cheer you all up – check out the stripeys new club badge on the back page of the football supplement in The Sun today. LOL!
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Its all very well being a supporter but why are there so many on here that do not want to hear any critiscism of the team’s performance?
The reality is that Fulham WERE the better team on the day; our lineup contributed to the performance and that IS the Manager’s responsibility; playing Mancienne and Henry in the central midfield DID result in no creativity and therefore NO service to the front; Ebanks-Blake IS off the pace and contributes very little;Henry did NOT deliberately set out to hurt Zamora but some of his tackling lately HAS been somewhat reckless and, frankly, baffling;the two goals we gave up WERE disappointing.
There I said it!!! Does that make me a bad supporter – I do not think so!!! I have supported the Club since 1959 and I wish them well. However, the truth is we CAN play much better ( we have all seen better performances) than this PROVIDED MM gets more positive with his lineups and lets the players play!!! When will Milijas be given a prolonged opportunity to play and get the splinters out of his butt??
COME ON YOU WOLVES!!!
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Ok so McCarthy was a defendeer alas the crunching tackles, but that’s not what we should be about. Glad to see alot of wolves fans showing heart and common sense.
Berra should be out of the team and Mouyokolo will keep him out.
I prefer Jones to Mancienne, but I guess playing away from home McCarthy thought the defensive option would be a better option.
Henry will be the new Robbie Savage if he’s not careful, recieving abuse from opposition fans.
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Juist a quick note for fellow Wolves supporters in Malta,ALL WOLVES games are being shown live at Dionne’s bar triq il gifen Bugibba.If you are over here on holiday then come along on match day’s Lager from €1.20 a pint.
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Ok we had a bad day on Saturday BIG style… But what is wrong with you lot??? We’ve had a good start to the season I think, and yes I have been going to the games all of em! and yes it is expensive but its the sign of the times but whats with the muppet mick mad mick jibes and slating the lads??? get behind em!!! people esp the other midland clubs must laugh there socks of at our pages… Never happy!!!!!
All the best to Bobby Z aswell unfortunate!
UTW
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Agree with post 56 100%. Seems a lot of ‘fans’ have forgotten that we went up as champions in 09… was you slating MM then?
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71. Yes, he was laughing at the referee and sarcastically applauded his decision as everything went against us on Sat. Hangalaands lunge was a straight red, the guy tripped Doyle when he was clean through and he got booked instead of the red for a professional foul.
It was a great challenge on Zamora just a shame that he landed awkwardly.Best wishes to him.
WE ARE WOLVES.
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Just had chance to look at some of the post match comments ’til this morning. Didn’t take long for the “Mick Out” brigade to surface. After one match ?
Still was able to have a good chuckle at the wonderful command of the English language most have: alcohol fuddled or just plain thick ? How do you expect anyone to take your remarks seriously ?
Why oh why did Karl Henry go into the national press on saturday telling one and all about his role in midfield ? Talk about bad timing. I think most of us would agree we are not a dirty side, but, you can see how our reputation has begun to spread. Let’s see what the Spurs fans think on saturday.
Steven Fletcher, you need to stay behind with Chris Brunt and learn what being part of a defensive wall is. You cost us two points, pal.
Now we’ll see how good Mouyokolo is.
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In response to 73. Its fine to criticise and disagree with mccarthey’s selection and tactics as you have done, i do so myself from time to time e.g. i dont think henry and mancienne in the middle works for most games. However, a mass of supporters on here fail to realise what a magnificent job mccarthey has done in 4 years and give him and the team no credit. They go all quiet when we pick up points, then as soon as we get beat it’s, “muppet mick”, “mad mick”, “get muppet out” etc etc!!!! They’re deluded
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Fair point Chris Hoggard re Fletcher and the wall. In fact, I seem to remember a certain Jay Bothroyd being dropped after a similar incident during his time with us ?
Your point re Doyle and our long balls up to the right may be valid, however for me, SEB will never hold the ball up as well as Doyle. I thought SEB worked hard on Saturday, but Doyle can brush off three tackles and still come out with the ball, and we missed this defending from the front attribute.
I think Fletcher has the ability to hold the ball up as well, so regadless of SEB’s efforts, I would take him out of the starting line up.
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Anyone know why Jelle went off?. It wrecked our shape, and got even worse with playing three strikers. Jarvo, sadly was expected to be everywhere on the pitch
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I would like to know why van damme came off, if it wasnt injury i would be dissapointed as we lost our shape, the same as we did against newcastle when he went off.
Personally i think we need to play 4 5 1 on saturday at spurs and my team would be
U.S.A
Foley mouyokolo craddock ward
fletcher guedeora henry jones van damme
doyle
I would leave seb out as doyle holds it up much better and we need to keep hold of the ball as much as we can.
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I’m sure half the comments on here are from imposters. We surely don’t have that many dummies being spat out, and that many toys being hurled from the pram, after one defeat ?
Let’s have some perspective. We lost narrowly to a side that made the Final of the Europa League last season – at their place. If any of you think that we should automatically beat the likes of Fulham, then I suggest that you take a cold shower.
The accusations of thuggery are baseless. Both Stoke and Newcastle gave as good as they got. The Fulham crowd on Saturday were taking out their anger at what happened to Zamora by howling at the Referee for every Wolves challenge, fair or not – just like Arsenal. But once you take away the Zamora incident – which wasn’t even a foul (JtH, take note) – then what ‘thuggish’ behaviour is left ?
However, there is now a severe danger that referees will be pre-disposed to punish us – and opposing fans know it. So, be prepared for floods of manufactured indignation from the opposition everytime we win the ball. In that context, Karl Henry needs to be a bit more discreet, and those of you on these pages using ‘thuggery’ to attack McCarthy should ask yourself whose agenda you’re serving.
As for the ‘sack McCarthy’ brigade. Good grief. So, should we sack him because Wolves lost a game ? Well that would get us through a dozen managers a season, so maybe not. Should we sack him because of last season (or the season before) ? Probably not. How about because we haven’t signed Messi, we’re not in the Champions’ League, and he refuses to pick the team that you specify ?
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Eastwood, More to he point we will see how fit Mouyokolo is.Do not rule out Elokobi,with his left foot,playing there.I do think when we get him fit Mouyokolo will prove to be a good signing.I also agree with Alex,it is time to see what a Doyle/Fletcher partnership is made of.
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Tamworthwolves,
Would you drop Jarvis for Fletcher???
More life drop Ward and drop Van Damme to left back, and move jarvis to the left of midfield.
Can I just say and I hope E&S print this.
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This whole “wolves a disgrace to the premier league” is whole lot of tosh! Fans & media alike have short memories. I can recall a certain Roy Keane deliberately end that Mancity players career with a high challenge. I dont hear much said about Man Utd and they did have some battle axe players like Keane, Ince, Stam, in their pomp. Football is a mans game, and certain sectors of the sport ought to MAN UP! So infact I whole heartledy agree with Wolves in yer face approach to football, dont give time on the ball players, if they dont like it TOUGH!
2nd point, just like to know why MM took Van Damme off at half time?
ps
If rivals fans sing “disgrace to the premier league” I suggest we just all laugh at them. It would probably wind them up.
NO ONE LIKES US… WE DONT CARE!
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i’m not MM greatest fan, but some of the comments on here come from people storing up their venom and waiting to have a go.
Well this is not the right time.Yes I think MM got the team selection wrong in midfield, and I bet against spurs we will only doyle upfront.But we have had a good start to the season and apart from a poorly defended free kick would have got a draw on saturday. Thats a fact!
Yes berra was stupid so lets see if moyokolo,zubar,stearman can take his place and do a better job
As for being a rough team i agree with 58 and 66.
27 Jiwal as you saying we should take iwelumo back because he scores a hatrick in the championship??
Did you see him play in any games last season for us?
He was competely anonymous and never got a kick at this level, thats why MM let him go. Fletcher got 9 prem goals last season in a poor team. To put that in context Bendter for Arsenal only scored 7 prem goals, so I know which club has got the better deal.
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Grey Wolf, You make a very valid point about Messi.I have been saying all summer we need a decent right winger.
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ssdjw,
With all these yellow cards a good signature
tune would be ” Follow the yellow MICK road”. Unless you know better.
JtH.
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Oh Dear Oh Dear
Some of you so called ‘fans’ need to have a word with yourselves, calling for the managers head????
Are you for real???
Many of you are now slagging our boys, apparantly for showing too much effort, I watched the match Saturday & there was very little between the 2 teams, yes Fulham were slightly the better team, but then they are the more established premier league team that were also playing at home, who also happen to be unbeaten this season.
Stop beleiving everything you read in the papers & on the net.
We ain’t a dirty team far from it, there wasn’t a bad tackle in the match on Saturday.
Support the lads, you should be proud of them.
Jth I’m seriously concerned how interested you are in our team, you should be crowing about what was a fantastic point gained by your team.
KTF
Wolvesforever
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Sorry folks but the Wolves manager and his team are a disgrace to the Wolves name. I listened to sicko-Micko pontificating on matches during the World cup. The Chutzpah of the man was unbelievable and why the Beeb paid him is beyond me. He lorded it over a team last season who’s strategy was boot it up the field and hope somebody on our side gets a look in. Total crap. then there was the debacle when he stood down the first team against ManU.
Now hes creating the Wolves in the likeness of leeds United under Don Revie….the dirtiest team to ever play in the First Division.
Macarthy must go he’s a no hope dumbo.
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No one likes us, no one likes us
No one likes us, we don’t care!
We are Wanderers, super Wanderers
We are Wanderers from Molineux!
No one likes us, no one likes us
No one likes us, we don’t care!
We are Wanderers, super Wanderers
We are Wanderers from Molineux!
STUFF THEM! We all must stick together and 2 fingers to the premiership establishment!
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Frankly I don’t care how many cards we pick up or if the opposition say we are dirty – we have played 5 games this season and have been second best in 4 of them. The performances this season have been as bad as anything we saw at the start of last season and we are lucky to have 5 points and be in the 3rd round of he League Cup. I’m think we need to revert to five across the middle just to get some more points on the board because I don’t know where the next one is coming from.
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It’s one of my bugbears.
I’ve looked through here out of interest and agree that unfortunately some of the posts are from our side under false names.
As I’ve said many times when the boot is on the other foot, these idiots are ruining this site for everyone else.
I don’t have a problem with people going on each others pages for whatever reason as it makes it better, as long as they do it under their own colours.
Let’s hope the E&S will bring in some sort of registration that will dicourage this.
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84 Grey Wolf: Great post! Sums up the sensible perspectives on the Fulham game, while also pointing out future negative effects from this “thuggery” labelling, even from some Wolves supporters.
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There a several problems to sort out with the pressing one of the inability to pass ball and advance. Always pass the way you are facing and by doing that there should be greater control of the ball. But for that to happen, players have to interchange their postions and not, as the poem says, “Stand and stare, building castles in the air”
The art of tackling appears to be an art lost, Caotain Henry believes he can tackle. I suggst he seeks out old timer Billy Crook, Bill Wright and one of best, Mike Bailey, to show him how to tackle.This goes to for the rest of the team
Whilst You will also note that the goalkeeper is not as self assured as he was, still playing OK but the same problems are appearing as we saw in Hennessy , and why not, the defence is still quite poor.
Why do we have a very skillfull player running up and down chasing, and I am writing about K. Doyle, whilst EBlake , who plays his heart out but, does not appear to read the game very well?
Why play Jarvis on the right? Jarvis can get round his marker with his quickness and get a centre in, but what he cannot do is dribble with his left foot and cut inside. On the left, he can beat his marker on the outside and get over a centre with the left foot. His real threat is on the left where he can beat the man on the out side and centre , but, his right foot dribbling skils allow him to cut and cause damage.
Berra, it was on the cards and his foolishness is often beyond belief, but do not blame him for letting the team down, blame those who select him. Croddock, is a hundred percent every game but he does lack the skills for this division. He earns his money on effort.
In reply to Gey Wolf. You make your point , yes Roy Keane was irresponsible at times , but he could pull the raabbit out of the bag when necessary. You have to ask. who matches Roy Keane in the current Wolves set up. Come back Eddie Clamp, all is forgiven
The lod days saw hard tackles, wild at times but you could avoid those, today, we have all of that holding and pulling of shirts, school boys behave in a more responsible manner
Rool on the next game, we shall all be there tearing out what hair we have left. MM will mumble his way through the after match interview and we shall go hame and kick the cat or wife out.
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Greasy,
Nice of you to be concerned about me. Would you like my autograph?. I’ve already crowed about ALBIONs also Spurs good display of proper football. Not just the point we and they earned. Lets hope I can say the same when we meet wolves. When is BENT going to get a kick?. Ha,Ha,Haa.
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SSJW,
TRY,
Follow the yellow Mick road
Follow the yellow Mick road
If you want a card today
Follow the yellow Mick road
JtH.
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97. Lost AGAIN Jack?
We beat Spurs home and away last season, and before you start with your usual rubbish we played em off the park in the home leg. Granted we parked the bus at the Lane but there you go.
You really do seem to have an issue with the Wolves board, why don’t you play on your own?
As for ‘when is Bent going to get a kick? hahaha’ seriously, how old are you?
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