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Do England have any role models left?
Tuesday 7th September 2010, 9:05AM BST.
Albion blogger Jarrod Hill laments the image footballers are portraying to the world in the wake of the latest scandal involving England star Wayne Rooney.
As we look forward to England’s second group qualifying game tonight against Switzerland, our world of sport has again been tainted with yet another scandal.
Wayne Rooney’s personal life has been plastered all over the tabloids and, regardless of whether the allegations are true or not, it is another stain on football.
Before the World Cup we had the John Terry and Wayne Bridge episode that affected England’s preparations and now this.
Rarely does a week go by without a story breaking relating to a footballers private life. We have seen drunken brawls, drug offences and sexual scandal, with every club including my own suffering as a result.
Joe Mattock’s public brawl and Roman Bednar’s possession of drugs has been widely documented as they joined the long list of professional footballers to have their personal shame made public viewing.
Although personally I have no interest in what goes on, it has prompted me to ask the question – is the world of sport still a means of inspiring our youth?
I have a six, nearly seven year old daughter who I am slowly encouraging to be interested in football, currently it is falling on deaf ears as she seems more interested in what I would call arty farty stuff.
When I was a child, sport was seen as a character builder, it taught you lessons such as working hard reaps rewards and practice makes you better, if not perfect.
If you played team games it also provided you with more mates than you can remember and helped you understand and appreciate other people’s strengths and weaknesses.
It also taught you that for a team to win you needed individuals to work together for a common goal, but to achieve that goal you had to adhere to certain rules and discipline.
Now I am not writing this as someone who would be first in the queue when asked “he who without sin let him cast the first stone,” far from it becuase I have been no angel.
But I strongly believe that sport has taught me a number of social skills and without them I would be a poorer person.
Yet the problem lies with sportsmen and women acting as role models. The higher we place them on their pedestals the further they have to fall and it is not just football that has its problems.
Rugby had ‘bloodgate,’ golf had the Tiger Woods scandal and even cricket has rumours of match fixing hanging around it like a bad smell.
I have heard the reasons a thousand times over why our stars of today find themselves the front page scandal.
Too much money is the most obvious one, or the combination of too much money and too young not to be naïve with it.
Our media have also been blamed, I hear fans suggesting that these sorts of things have always gone on but our media have never hunted down sports stars within their private lives like they do know.
Which brings me onto many peoples reaction to anything they read in the press, it is their private lives and it should remain private.
I also wish that we could all live together in harmony and achieve world peace, but it isn’t going to happen, just like tabloid journalists not hunting down a story involving a world famous sportsman.
The fact is scandal sells newspapers better than anything else, so it will always remain the same.
So, is the world of sport still an avenue to inspire our kids?
I believe it is, but I believe the days of being able to look up to your idols playing either for your club or country are long gone.
The ever diminishing relationship between players and fans needs some serious repair and, although some ‘role models’ can still be found, they are few and very far between.
Let’s face it most of us do not give a rats ass what Wayne Rooney, John Terry, or even Tiger Woods gets up to in their private lives, it wont stop me watching and playing football and golf.
It also takes nothing away from how much I still enjoy sport, but I am an educated adult who can filter the good from the dross that our media hurls at us.
But the impressionable young eyes that are watching learn all too quickly, that includes our own kids and some of them may well be the stars of tomorrow.
I hope they can learn from mistakes made by others, but I fear that the world of sport will continue to muddy the waters when it comes to teaching right from wrong.
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I read your blog with great interest, the thing that occured to me however is that it is hard to find role models in any walk of life these days, not just sport.
We have elected MP’s for instance ripping the tax payer off with their expenses.
Basically we live in a selfish society were people will do anything to better themselves and do not care one jot how it effects other people.
I do not envy you trying to bring a child up in our sick society at the moment, let alone getting your daughter to like sport.
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I can only say thank God for Jody Craddock. What a shining example of a sportsman that any kid could look up to and learn from.
I am totally disgusted with the Terry’s, Coles (Ashley and Joe) Rooney and the others who think that the rules of decency and abiding by the law don’t apply to them.
They disgrace themselves and our nation and I would not have them play for their country as it means nothing to them. Only money talks.
Rock on Jody we salute you.
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I don’t know about playing football being character-building anymore Jarrod, but watching the Albion in the late 80′s and early 90′s was certainly character-building in a playground full of Villa supporters!!
On a serious note, supporting the Albion gives a young lad roots, an identity and an opportunity to travel the country regularly, but I’m not sure I’d like it if I had a lad and he was idolising Marlon King.
Personally I think the press have a responsibility as well as the footballers. Lying, cheating, sleeping with hookers, fighting……these things happened 100 years ago, but in days gone by it was somehow sheltered from kids. Now it seems anything goes in some parts of the media, including blatant entrapment to create a story.
I personally won’t buy one Sunday newspaper because of the distasteful lengths it goes to to create a story, but it’s the best-selling in the country, so is it the newspaper’s fault, or is it a sad reflection of human-nature, morbid curiosity and sadism that we as a society feed off celebrity gossip and failure?
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Matty Jarvis will break into the squad soon and he will be a good role-model as he is a down to earth, hard working young man and considering he plays for the most up and coming club in the country he is doing well to be so level-headed.
The Wolves youngsters are taking the Premier League by storm the Super Mick Mc Carthy way!!!
On another note, I was wrong about something during the world cup, I shouted on a nu8mber of occasions that Wayne Rooney couldnt score in a Brothel……Guess we are all wrong sometimes!
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Lampard,Gerrard,Terry & Rooney are all International failures who have all being caught playing with fire one way or another and had there fingers burnt so they deserve the publicity they are receiving.All of them on over £100,000 a week and have no values either monetary or morally.The classic tale of Melchiott when he played for Chelsea sums up the game of today when he wrapped his porche round a lampost and when the Police came he told them to take it away and scrap it as he would just buy another one.Its not just the superstars ,remember our own Lee Hughes !!!!
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not to mention the bloke who goes round night clubs hitting people with his handbag,aye boing boing
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LW
Is there any subject that you will not attempt to turn into a pro Wolves propaganda vehicle ?
Jarrod
The world is full of people with indiscresions, but if they are without the public eye, they basically have carte-blanche.
However, EVERY aduld in their own way is a role model within ones family.
The problem lies with the gutter press, who feed like rabid dogs on celebs shortcomings, but turn a convenient bling eye when said celeb uses his/her status for the good.
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5. Joe Mattock os another. The video was scary how somebody can just flip out like that and attack men and women over words.
Unfortunately for our great club with Lee Hughes, Bednar and now this I wouldnt want to see any of them in an Albion shirt again, morales should always come before football.
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Laughing wolf
Very very funny, i am still laughing as i write this, and the Wayne Rooney joke at the end was amusing as well…..boom boom.
Wall Heath Baggie
I think you make a very good point re society today. You get people like my dad who will say you never had Astle or Allen making headlines like they do today. But society is completly different now than it was then, we now have more vices with easier access than ever before, and an information hungry public that yearns for the dirt.
The truth is that our society has become information/gossip/rumour mad and will consume anything surved up by our national media.
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No 6
Or certain striker playing for Notts County serving time for a crime.
Good Blog may i say !
For me all the hero’s and role models have gone in this day and age i’m afraid.
Now i just want to be a hero/role model for my children.
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The truth is that a large proportion of our superstar footballers are not in the business of being role models, they are just in it for the money. In reality they just reflect the state of our society which totaly lacks any sense of consequence for actions and they just don’t realise how lucky they are.
It would be refreshing to see the clubs taking theses people on and sacking them and the FA banning them from football for life. From an Albion perspective lets not have a player on a suspended prison sentence at our club. Darren Moore is a true football role model forget Rooney, Terry et al.
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David Beckham is probably the only decent role
model left in football,I hate the bloke with a
passion but at least he seems to care about
the game.
If the goverment want to save money then why
not tax all these megga rich footballers.
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Jarrod – excellently written blog once again. I agree with a lot of the comments posted on here (LW the exception – absolute plank that guy) but I do also think we should consider the “entrapment” comment carefully.
I’m a believer that more often than not that in these cases there is no smoke without fire. The press did not go after the likes of John Higgins or the Pakistan Cricket team just by chance – they were fully aware that these guys were potentially open to corruption within sport. I appreciate neither John Higgins nor any of the Pakistan cricket team has been found guilty but if they are found guilty is Sport not a better place without them? I appreciate the press unearthing these stories are purely driven by potential sales but if the integrity of Sport benefits should we not encourage such journalism? After all in most sports the professional bodies are sadly too inept to do so themselves.
Role Models specifically – Botham, Best, Alex Higgins, Flintoff, Warne….the list goes on. These have been heroes to many of us whilst growing up yet these guys found themselves in hot water time and time again and hardly set good examples of how to behave yet they still remain international icons to this day…..why is this? Is this right?
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I had the likes of Ronnie Allen, Don Howe, Bobby Robson, Len Millard ( Just to name a few) to look up to when I was a youngster. I
had discipline in and out of school. Never did me any harm. The governments changed that over the years, now we have landed with what we’ve got.
By the way laughingwolf, wolves had their bad guys long before our club did, I wont mention names but incarceration and drug abuse were in their camp. If you have only supported wolves a short time I’m sure older fans will fill you in.
~~~~BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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What is prostitution? We all know about the woman who sells her body for cash, (blimey, I’m forgetting, rent boys do it too. There’s old fashioned). Rooney has been generous to his new in-laws apparently, house, all the trappings etc. Would they have let him near their beautiful daughter if he had not been mega-rich? Be fair, he looks a superfit 40 already. So at what point does independence given away in exchange for money become a form of prostitution? Apply to all the recent footballer scandals.
The media. That famous Sunday paper was just as notorious when I was a kid but the words used were disguised. ‘They were intimate’ was SO titillating we almost climbed lampposts in ecstacy. The older uncles who ‘let us have a peep’ at this or that story would permit themselves a knowing smile. Parents got very angry. But it went on because virtually all of us are interested in what others get up to with their naughty lives.
The differences today are too many to list, but speed of information is now almost speed of light. The internet is affecting newspapers and a big scandal wards off the day of reckoning.
If this sounds like I approve of the antics of our footballers, I do not. Superfit young men with loads of cash will attract certain women like flies and jam on a hot day. What truly amazes me is that they use known prostitutes who not only sell themselves, but more importantly, their clients to news hounds. What has she got to lose? Certainly not her reputation which is enhanced by who she’s been with.
Nothing’s changed really. It’s just on a faster, bigger scale.
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You’ve stirred up a bit of a hornet’s nest here Jarrod.
I grew up surrounded by adults that had been through WWII. There may be a little bit of rose tinted spectacles about it but I remember people that weren’t obsessed with money. Although there were villains about most people respected others property and their privacy.
I’d never suggest that we need another major war but is it any coincidence that the only people everyone seems to have respect for now are our squaddies. They risk their lives, sometimes sacrifice themselves for their mates, all for a pittance.
It’s sickening to hear of our International players complaining of being bored in their seven star hotel in SA for four weeks and having to be entertained by being taken on safaris. To remember Rooney crying that he misses his little lad when it seems he didn’t miss his wife’s company during her pregnancy.
Meanwhile our soldiers spend a tour of duty in a country where thay can’t leave camp safely, have little in the way of mod cons and get little reward.
Perhaps it’s tied up with what we were talking about the other day. Why we don’t support the England team the way we used to. I still love this country. It has so much to be proud of. But unfortunately it now has so much more that I’m ashamed of than it used to.
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BEEVOWER
You make some excellent points, if the press are unearthing corruption in any form of life that is fine with me as this is illegal and should be bought to account ( agree totally that the people who run sport appear to be powerless to act), but when they print these lurid stories, normally regarding people’s sex lives, then i am just not interested as it is none of my or the public’s business.
The sporting icons you mention were less than angelic but did produce fine sporting achievements,if they should remain respected is a very difficult question that i do not have the answer to , perhaps other bloggers have thoughts on this matter ??
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Cyril
Interesting to read your thoughts on THAT paper back then. I can understand when their editor will tell us their stories are in the ‘public interest’ but in my opinion, some of what the stories they publish now are unnecessary, although I think you’re right in that in many cases this is only a symptom of the speed and accessibility of information.
Beevower
I wrote a bit about entrapment, I should add I wasn’t suggesting that all cases are entrapment, just as often naivety in the case of the guilty party.
There are also, as you say, examples of investigative work being beneficial, but there are some cases that just seem to fit the media agenda. January 2006, for example, England’s golden generation ready to bring back the World Cup, our best chance EVER. That paper sends a bloke dressed as a sheikh to give Sven a bung, then a 2-month campaign to get him sacked. Who does that help?
Remember Bobby Moore and David Beckham, two of England’s greatest ever icons, have both been guilty of adultery, yet these two are heroes and Ashley Cole is a scumbag. I can imagine if Fabio has any skeletons in his marital cupboard, the media will be doing all they can to get their grubby hands on it after this summer’s failure.
The footballers are in some cases foolish. But how many of us can say we’ve never looked at another woman? Cheated on a partner? Visited a prostitute? Or thought about any of the above? Difference is they get asked that question by beautiful women every Saturday night.
Like Cyril says, it’s been happening for decades, probably centuries (isn’t prostitution supposedly the oldest profession in the world?), but perhaps it’s just a case of how we report it now and how accessible this information is to children.
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It is certainly the minority of footballers who are rolemodels. Dean Kiely is an excellent professional and that is why he has had a long and successful career, I suppose Giggs and Scholes (although a thug at times on the pitch) are the other obvious players.
I was shocked when Roman Bednar got caught up with the law and I thought it would be best for all parties to cut ties. Lee Hughes was sent to prison for a shocking crime and lets hope that he has true remorse for what he did. Joe Mattock who is at best a lower class Championship player thought he was above the law and after witnessing the footage I was shocked.
Footballers now think they are above the law and society in general and if ever there was a time for a salary cap…..it is now.
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Mate, great blog.
Lets face it its the oldest proffession in the world, i wonder how many of the attending spectators, who probably run into Millions this weekend, have frequented a lady of the night. And they will all be stood there indignantly running the likes of Rooney et al down. I’m not saying its right, but we all know it goes on. Also, you cant tell me that the like of Abigail (crouch), Coleen (Rooney) and numerous others have fallen for these guys just on looks. They have entered a life that gives them plenty, much more than yours or anyone elses missus will see. In the same way the molls fall for the gangsters of this life. Personally i couldnt give a fig whether Rooney has had twenty ladies all over 65, or whether Peter Crouch has got lucky in a night club. It happens and the News of the world makes aliving out of it. It’s us who are the fuel for these papers, if we didnt bother buying them they wouldnt print it.
As the Bible says, he came down to the temple and found it full of thieves, gamblers and prostitutes. Sounds like a good night out to me !!!!
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Let’s not tar them all with the same brush!
Our own Darren Moore is a great role model. Let us celebrate the good guys and gals.
Give us some more names of who you think are REAL role models.
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The trouble with football today is there are to many overpaid overated brats,they must pinch themselves everytime they wake up the love of the game is being ruined by money.
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Role model ? Has Rooney been done for assault in a leicester night club Jarrold yet ?
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hilltop
You slay me, i would say it sounds like one of our nights out but the other half would kill me, and so would yours!!!
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21 Jeff.
Cyrille Regis. I don’t like to meet famous people, I never know what to say and they usually turn out to be a disappointment.
I met Cyrille in a wine bar in Birmingham. It was in his early days in the team and he was with Laurie Cunningham, we’d beaten West Ham 1-0 earlier I think Cyrille got the goal.
I was with my brother-in-law who is the most non football person you could meet. I mentioned who the two were and despite my protests my B-I-L started talking to them. Laurie was fairly aloof, understandably as I’m sure fans can be a nuisance. Cyrille spent quite a time talking to us about all sorts of things not related to football. He seemed a bit of a shy and quiet bloke but was very warm and too polite to tell us to get lost when that was probably what he was thinking.
I heard Cyrille again today on Talksport, still very modest about his career. What a lovely bloke and a great role model for any kid.
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hilltop baggies loved your last two lines , excellent.
as for role models. john richards and ryan giggs, cyrille regis, all players to look up to.
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We have to look at ourselves and how we (the adults) are also in awe and how we completely overate these spoilt sports stars.
How some people refer to Rooney as a top 5 in the world player, he couldnt lace Eusebios. I hear how Beckham is ‘worth every penny’ of his 250 mil personal fortune, just because he crosses a ball well, it is all beyond me.
How some people can describe A Cole as the best ‘left back’ in the world, come on would G Best or Pele of played left back! yet command a £125,000 per week salary. He’s an above average Premiership defender at best and he epitomizes the image of the selfish premiership footballer with his post world cup couldnt careless attitude and drunken womanising.
These guys don’t deserve the accolade they attract, look at the world cup, it was pathetic, the players have been ruined by money that nobody has any concept of, yet I hear pundits and commentators say every week ‘ he’s worth £100k a week ‘just for a good tackle made or penalty saved or goal scored. £100k!! a week!!
£25m for Milner, £90m for Ronaldo, and some people justify it like they think there’s nothing wrong with this amount of money exchanging hands when soldiers earn less thn £20k a year risking their lives for these idiots. Its not dramatic, its a fact that there are working people who are dying because the hospital cant afford the right drugs, yet drug test dodging Ferdinands pulling his face because he wants £100k a week instead of £80k. The money these players earn is not right.
We should worry more about how society is excepting this level of avariciousness, rather than worrying about the influence it may have on our celebrity obsessed youth.
Oh but hold on I hear you say,’Yowd goo to another company for a £20k a week pay rise mate’
How does that justifiy anything when these offers just do not happen to Mr Hard Working non entity man?
Try to look far deeper than we do before we adore, celebrate and except these 90 minute selfish, ignoramous, overated, greedy charlatans that pass themselves of as role models.
They are at best, just average footballers, with below average brains, playing in a game that was once for the working man, now ruined and run by the rich, yet still adored in our self centred, sit back, 21st century society.
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12 DLB erm… rebecca loos?!
really hurts me to say this, not just as a lifelong baggie and football nut, but also general sports fan, but i’m tending more and more to agree with my son when he says hes not interested in following sport (he still likes playing thank god).
most sports these days are televised, hence have lots of money coming in, so the participants at top level have more money than they deserve.
this money-”star” parasitic relationship then takes over and becomes more important than the actual sport itself. it has ingratiated itself into football, golf, cricket, rugby, athletics etc.
the question must be, how can it end, before this snowball effect morally corrodes the whole of sporting society from grass roots up, once and for all?
rant over! boing boing!
usually im a half glass full, but on this one im staring at the bottom of the glass
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GET IN THERE ROONEY! FAIR PLAY
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11 Andover.
I answered your post earlier and although I was careful it must have still been too strong for the mods.
I’ll try again.
Totally agree with you except that while some Chairmen Dave Whelan, Jeremy Peace have done the right thing and terminated contracts for the miscreants. Chairmen with lower moral standards are all too willing to take advantage if it means picking up a player on the cheap.
The other side of this is that a player who has done wrong and had his contract terminated for bad behaviour becomes a free agent and is therefore able to negotiate a better one when he joins another club. Rewarding the bad boys.
Perhaps in this kind of situation the FA could put a value on the player which would be payed by the club given to charity.
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I am sick to death of this “Role Model” talk. Listen i am a family man of 3 kids from 17 year lad whio is in the Army, a 15 year girl who is going into further education and a 5 year lad who is going into space when he is older (his opinion).
My point is that any child should know the right way and if they dont then the blame falls at the parents door without a doubt.
This role model talk is complete rubbish. Does my 5 year old know what a prostitute is? no as he is more interested in wrestling star John Cena.
Does my lad who is 17 know what a hooker is? i should hope so.
The people who harp on about their child needing role models other than family are in my opinion weak and looking for a excuse as to why their child grew up a nightmare.
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Oh and another point, Do i look at Rooney and judge him? No not at all because we are all human.
I do sort of feel for his wife but she knew what she was getting into before they got married and she has mad a gob of money from it and fair play to her.
I dont feel sorry or judge the like of Rooney and co because well i have a life and i am no angel like 99% of the people on this earth.
It seems to me the people who want to smash Rooney to bits are living in Glass house but the difference is who cares about Dave W and Joe Bloggs?
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Wow! Jarrod. That blog’s had more response than the E&S letters page. Someone, (and I ain’t reading that lot over again), made the very good point that Rooney and the others haven’t broken the law, it’s always gone on, etc. The corruption, theft, deception of our MPs set a perfect example did it not? Match fixing for bets is on similar lines. IT STINKS! The sexual activities of our sports stars make titillating reading with many a healthy young man wishing the ‘groupies’ and ‘camp followers’ were on his radar, but what is astonishing is their naivety for taking on call girls who are always one phone call away from the Press. Colleen’s dignity has been destroyed as was Cheryl Coles and Tiger Did’s wife. They must have known or suspected and swallowed hard while it was under cover. Then it’s out. Decisions have to be made, faces saved.
Rooney played well first half tonight then faded away to nothing. The new kid who scored looks a hell of a prospect. Brain’s stopped working. Good night.
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Never mind role models….what about a decent TV channel that either shows the England match live or at least the highlights! Watching telly tonight, you wouldn’t even know England were playing a euro championship qualifier!
Last time this happened, they said it was an outrage and would never happen again as there would at least be highlights on a celestrial TV channel. Watching it streamed on the internet just don’t cut it.
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31, 32 Dave.
Good post and I totally agree with most of what you say.
The thing that turns me off the most is that when they are caught out JT takes his wife and kids on holiday and we’re treated to the spectacle of him telling us how sorry he is and how much he loves them. Rooney citing missing his son as a reason he’s playing poorly in the World Cup when he knows what he’s been up to.
I know it’s down to the PR men but it’s the attempted manipulation of the public that gets me.
Let them behave like men, put their hands up and say I did it because I wanted to and I enjoyed it. No one at the NOTW forced them to. Admit that what they missed at the World Cup was the birds, booze and fast cars as well as their ‘cosy’ family lifestyle.
If I was young, loaded and famous, I’m sure I’d be filling my boots. In fact I’d be disappointed with myself if I wasn’t, it’s what blokes do, it’s the way we’re made.
What I hope I wouldn’t be doing is coming out with mealy mouthed claptrap when I got caught.
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PS Cyril.
Loved the ‘Tiger Did.’
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34. Agree with everything you say except one bit. Pick your ‘Browser’, (fat clue there), if you watch on the internet. I didn’t miss a kick and the quality was reasonable. One ‘Browser’ was running interfering adverts, but another was better quality and in English.
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Laughingwolf,
Yes, fans are wrong sometimes, the problem is
you’re wrong ALL the time.
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Boy,
Never mind the ENGLAND match I watched Argentina v Spain on ITV4. How MESSI
can turn like he does at that pace defies nature. It was a feast of fine football bar SPAINS goalkeepers clanger. The score was 4-1
to ARGENTINA and all the goals were sublime. The best was, it was only a friendly.
~~~~BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH
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Jarrod writes a thought provoking blog ( in my opinion the best he has written) and then you get a comment from 29 James Wolf and it makes me wonder why any of us bother.
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Surely “Do” England have… should be “Does” England have… where do your reporters learn English. In Pakistan?
As far as Rooney is concerned I’ve always subscribed to the thinking that the face is a reflection of the soul; so that makes him a real arse-soul.
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boy,
You’re right, F.A. said the England matches would be shown, but I’m afraid it only applies
to our home matches. The F.A. can’t govern what other contries want to do. Obviously they
want the Sky money, end of story. Hope this answers your question.
~~~~BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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36.RBH. Well he Did day he aer kid. Reminds me of a girl of years ago named Eva Wood, cuz Ethel did! So I was told.
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Jeff,
My wife is as straight as a die. A fine person for any child to follow because of her truthfulness.
BOING~~~~BOING~~~~JtH.
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@40 – Frank Smith.
England the nation would be “does” but England the team would be “do”.
Imagine it’s a club team – you’d say “do Arsenal have any role models?”.
I think you missed the real grammatical point – that “celestrial” isn’t a word.
Celestial is – pertaining to the sky I believe.
I think he was looking for “terrestrial”.
Given your apparent lack of understanding of our language I suggest you use a different line to justify your thinly veiled racism.
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