surely we are not that desparate!

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I think its a absolute joke trying to sign him, we might aswell offer George boeteng a contract at least he is proven and experienced in the premier league… think peace needs to get his cheque book out and buy some good players I know we have never been big spenders but to spend £800,000 on what looks like being 4 players is a complete joke.

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What a terrible signing this would be,Why is it the Wolves can spend millions on players and we don’t really look to spend a penney. I’m ashamed of my club sometimes and the joke we probably may become this season

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If we sign this bloke Jeremy Peace should go we have had enough of his penny pinching and total lack of ambition.

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I agree with Slippy………..we dont know what hes been doing the last few years but
a} hes had chances and not proved himself and
b) if hes that good why is he free and no one else wants him.
What we need is a “proven” front man and not a maybe. Moore has proved they are hard to move on.

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What a joke signing.

Straight back down as normal. Where’s the money gone JP? As number 3 says, £800,000 on 4 players for a Premiership campaign is a travesty.

Albion have become a small time club with a small time mentality

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I don’t think Djemba-Djemba would be a signing any of us would’ve hoped for, but there comes a point where we have to trust RDM’s judgement.

I would suspect he’d be used as a back-up to Mulumbu and Jara as a holding midfielder. Pre-season would suggest RDM wants to play with 2 holders and if Mulumbu or Jara (who is also probably first-choice right-back) gets injured, that leaves S Reid who has experience of playing the role. In truth, that’s probably not enough.

Finally, it seems that when we sign a good player, credit goes to Ashworth and/or RDM. So when we sign somebody that nobody wanted, why are people so quick to attribute the signing to Peace? At least be consistent.

Peace has said he’ll spend the money, I’ve no doubt we’ll spend a fair bit before the end of August, but there’s no point signing the wrong players for the sake of it. Have a bit of patience…..

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Oh my days I hope we don’t get him .why oh why do we not spent 10 million on a player that is good instead of low end of market or a free transfer .spend the money on 3 decent players then if the worst happens then u can sell them .success breads success .we have had that much money in the club over the last 7 years and yet we still don’t spend it .jp needs to spend times a tickin sort it out

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BIG GULP! This would be another waste of money unless he’s on a very low salary. Plus do we really need another midfielder?

A striker is where we really need to be scouring the earth for.

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Get a grip Baggies fans. You are all demanding to strengthen the squad and then when a player you don’t like is mentioned you spit your dummies out. RDM obviously thinks we need an additional holding midfielder to compete for 2 places he seems to planning for this season. Some would rather have Koren!!! Yeah right Koren in holding position!!! My main concern is whether we can get the striker we know we need.

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14 JB Wolves spent out on Doyle last season and have improved there squad.Where are the improvements in or team.We have all been there before, how can we compete in the Prem.with a championship side.Wolves will be ok this season we will be doomed and I am sorry but it is all down to our scrooge of a chairman/owner

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Very reminiscent of the Wolves pages at this stage last season. At the time I compared them to Italian airline passengers when the plane hits a little turbulence. I hoped our fans would be made of stronger stuff but no, we’re all pushing the women and children out of the way and inflating our life jackets.

14 JB, 19 War and peace are the honourable exceptions. Great Barr Baggie made an excellent point on the previous thread. How many of the posters condemning this player have actually seen him play in the last three years? How many of them would have been complaining if we signed Forlan when he left Utd or Titus Bramble when he left Newcastle?

The article says that RDM has admitted his “worry” over signing players. Surely if such an interview exists it would have been on here by now so let’s see it E&S.

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This man is a cult hero at Old Trafford and I believe was very popular with Burnley fans during his spell there. He’s nowhere near as bad as people make out, so this might be a canny bit of business by Roberto Di Matteo.

Good luck to the Baggies this season, from a United fan.

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Jeremy peace your time is up!!!! The lack of investment in the squad is a disgrace. Robrto Di mateo will be gone as soon as a decent club comes in for him, and i couldn’t blame him for going. SACK THE BOARD!!!

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Where have all these short-sighted people come from?

This board has provided us with a stability we lacked for years, a scouting network to be proud of, a youth system that’s producing England youth internationals year-upon-year after years of producing none, a sporting academy, our own training ground and modern facilites that rival the top-flight clubs we’re competing with when all financial experts tell us we have no right competing with them given we’re virtually debt-free.

Ashworth was responsible for some or all of: Jara, Olsson, Tamas, Mulumbu and Ibanez amongst others.

We get linked with (i.e. nothing official) one player, and some of you want them all sacked?!!!

If it was a big signing, you’d all be praising RDM. Does he have no say in this buy because it’s not a player you like?!!

If I could write what I wanted it wouldn’t get printed, but some of you really are beyond redemption.

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P.S. Streetly

It’s not often we agree, but you’re absolutely spot on. Lets see what the window brings before being so judgemental.

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Who are these fans who seem to think that spending £10 million buys you instant success. We spent £4.7m on Valero and I bet they were the first to bark on about how much of a waste of money he was. I too beleive he was a waste of money.
The basic facts of the matter are that we are Albion, and unfortunately we can’t convince Beckham or Gattuso to sign for us.
If these fans have been going to the Hawthorns for more than 6 years they will be aware that we had to ride much bigger storms than signing Djemba-Djemba, memories of scrapping with Walsall to stay in the 1st Division and battling against Swansea and Port Vale to get in it spring to mind. Ask your Dad boys.
Fair enough, 3 weeks is not much time to get players in but I do beleive we will get an extra Keeper and two Strikers in. An extra defensive midfielder would be an unexpected bonus IMO. The new rules mean there is more than likely going to be a rush in the final week where a lot of surplus talent is hurriedly ushered out of some big doors and into smaller ones. These clubs will probably prefer thier players to still be gaining Prem experience and teams like Baggies (who play flowing football) will be top of thier list. Don’t forget RDM still has Chelsea connections.
Keep the faith lads we’ll be OK this time round.
Boing Boing.

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21) An Albion fan that is talking common sense on here about Wolves. Wolves have spent about £17m on 5 players – 4 of them full internationals. The only slight gamble of all the signings is Mouyokolo. We should be safe.
In terms of Albion, you have to feel sorry for RDM. Peace has got to come up with serious cash – £10m minimum – to improve the squad. The midfield is decent, the defence probably needs improving and you definitely need some new forwards! Blues are having a go, Villa are struggling and waiting on the Milner outcome and Albion need more than free transfers and bargain basements!

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Warren

Why do you always have a go at people who disagree with your views, can you not simply state your views without comments like people are beyond redemption.
Supporters simply have different views to yours and do not live in your little world where the Albion can do no wrong, live with it.

ps i suppose you will now accuse me of being a dingle which is your normal retort.

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Nick the Greek

I don’t know how often you read my posts, I have once called somebody a dingle and apologised on the same post further down. It’s not what I normally do at all.

However, I do admit that I get passionate and express my opinions strongly, maybe sometimes too far.

In my humble opinion Nick, to suggest we rip apart the backbone of a club on the basis of media speculation of a signing is absolutely absurd, and anyone who believes in that is in my view, beyond redemption.

For example your initial post, which suggests you know little of Ashworth’s role at the club. Did you know he was in some way responsible for the signings of Jara, Olsson, Ibanez, Mulumbu and Tamas? How is it justifiable to sack him on the back of media speculation?

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I understand where Warren (29) and TRBH are coming from. JP in my opinion has done a great job in his tenure often with limited funds in comparison to those clubs up the road and beyond with sugar daddy chairmen or companies who have plundered the football club into debt.

I also agree we have not seen Eric play for quite a while.

First time failures Forlan and Bramble are the exceptions that prove the rule.I just cant see Djemba-Djemba is going to be one.
I think perhaps RDM wants to add depth which means potential subs and fringe members to the squad.
Signing him on 10k a week as a second string squad player probably makes some sense.

However this is the fourth time we have approached a Prem campaign under this management. JP and RDM have talked since April (3 months ago since we gained promotion) about bringing in experience and quality. They also have said be patient. Wait for the right player to become available. I think this may be a move made in haste at the present time.

The transfer market is in a stalled state at the moment. I hope this story is a rumour not a truth because I would like to think that we are aspiring to target players who have proven to be successful in the prem -even if at slightly lower hights than Man U and Villa have occupied recently.

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Nick the Greek.
For someone that comes on here and totally condemns a player’s ability then indulges in namecalling of our TD, calling him ‘Mr Peace’s muppet’ and telling him to resign.
You then have a fit of the vapours when someone dares to question your views.
I don’t know why Warren is justifying himself to you.
Yes we’re all entitled to our views about the club but why do yours usually seem to involve insulting people?

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41 AMS.

Have you read post 25 Jacob?

On your other point. Who has actually moved to another club in the close season that:-
a) You would want?
b) We could afford?
c) Would come to us?
d) We could afford his wages.
I ask this question seriously regarding the positions we’re looking at IE striker, fullback, keeper.
Yes there have been plenty of deals done but how many fit the above criteria?
Anyone else feel free to answer.

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Warren

I hope you are right re: ‘Rolls Royce signing’ but somehow can’t see it. Every Prem pre-seaon has been the same in the transfer market. A big let down. The last time I got really excited about signings was the week Grrening, Kanu and Gera signed. That was years ago now. We have never signed anywhere near the pedigree of these since IMO.

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Oh please tell me you’re joking

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Eric Dejemba-Dejemba was never going to make
it at Man Utd or Villa with the amount of
talented midfeild players they both had,
Iam sure he done alright for Burnley and
confident he`ll do ok at Albion.
At this moment in time I`d be happy with
`Snoopy the dog`!

Cuddly Dudley
“THERE WAS A YOUNG MAN CALLED KOREN”
“WHO GOT RELEASED BY THE ALBION CHAIRMAN”
“DI MATTEO DIDNT LIKE HIM”
“SO CELTIC CAME IN”
“AND MADE HIM WHERE A DAFT LOOKING SPORAN”.

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48.
Let’s wait until the season starts before making any premature predictions.
PS Cyril made a typically measured and wise comment about this on the previous thread. He’s been around long enough not to jump to hasty conclusions, unlike some.

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A footballer we had name of Koren,
Of vintage decidedly foreign,
Drilled in 50 yard goals,
That lifted the poles,
From the holes in the ground that they stood on.

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20 and 44. Nick the Greek. Ironically, and you should know this better than anyone else as it’s so close to home, if JP had been in charge of your homeland’s finances maybe Greece wouldn’t be in the trouble it’s currently in and maybe, just maybe, the rest of the European economy wouldn’t be at a tipping point either.

I suspect you’d already considered this though.

I have total faith in JP, DA and RDM. None of them work independently of each other when it comes to bringing in new players. It’s a team effort.

On another theme, Chelsea are suffering huge injury worries and other concerns ahead of August 14. Drogba, Benyaoun, Alex and Cech out, Ballack and J. Cole already left and speculation linking A. Cole with Madrid.
I know they still have a deep squad of quality players but following the World Cup too, this is as good a time as ever to play them.

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I’ve seen on the official site that Albion are experimenting with making Brunt a holding midfielder, what do people think about this.

I’m no tactical expert but I’m not sure I agree with it. Brunt is one player in the side with a bit of quality, amongst a few others. Making him a holding player is completely changing is role in the team. We signed him as a winger, which is an attacking role. He also scored goals last time we were in the prem so this would take goals out the team.

We need goals from midfield as often, teams will snuff out the threat from our strikers. So having goals in the midfield will be important.

Obviously, this may work, but I have concerns. What do people think?

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I too don’t know much about Ashworth’s background, so we can only go with what we know, which (to me anyway) is that he’s been fairly successful in a) setting up an extensive scouting network, which b) has flourished thus far.

If you’re suggesting that if he’s less qualified than RDM in coaching, he’s not capable of doing his job, then what right have me and you got to cast our assertions on Djemba Djemba more than either of those two?

Ideally I agree, that a manager should be in complete control of the playing side of things, but I think it’s worth considering that if RDM was in charge of everything, his average day in July might involve:

Taking two coaching sessions;
Spending hours on the phone enquiring about player availability;
Giving his evening up to fly around the world watching games; and
Holding lenghty contract negotiations with existing players and future ones.

To me that doesn’t seem logistically possible without one or more of those areas suffering. Also RDM is Italian, where a director of football is commonplace, so unless RDM suggests he’s not keen, I don’t see how it’s a major issue.

Finally, I appreciate the Peace joke. But I’m an Albion fan who remembers Twerton Park, Halifax, Woking, Bobby Gould, losing at home 5-1 to Crewe etc. I personally don’t want to go back to that and can see that this board and structure won’t allow that to happen.

There seem to be a number of people who post on here with short memories (33 Baggieinmanc- spot on), who demand instant success and need a reality check.

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Where have all these posters come from?It’s like disturbing a wasp’s nest,as TRBH said it reminds me of mid season last year when all the dingles[I use that name in a friendly way] were shouting for Mad Mick’s head and fair play to him he made them eat their words,I don’t know much about Djemba so I can’t comment but at the moment this is just paper talk, so why are a lot of you spouting your mouths off when nothing’s happened?,I’m sure that if RDM doesn’t want him he won’t sign,as for comments about DA,well they sound like members of the Moaning Moron’s to me,he doesn’t choose the targets he tells RDM who is available then goes after the players RDM needs which fall into the right price bracket,any body can spend millions but that doesn’t always work does it? he doesn’t need a vast football knowledge just good negotiating and communication skills. Why do a lot you keep bringing Koren into your reasoning? he was allowed to leave because he was a type of player we have to many of,he was a little light weight for the Prem,maybe he didn’t see eye to eye with RDM so why tie a lot of money up in a contract to keep him where it could be better spent elsewhere and he’ad given good service to WBA so they let him go on a free because in a ideal world they probably would’ve kept him. Nick The Greek Tranquilo! wait and see

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Sorry people but if we sign this guy it shows our complete lack of ambition to even try to stay in the greedy league!He is one of thoses footballers that us fans look at and wonder how the hell he ever made a very good living out of football? We have spent next to nowt since promotion not that spending inflated transfer fees gaurantees success as the dingles will shortly find out! but there are some good exerienced prem players available Sidwell from the vile if we need a central midfield player who wont cost the earth!
Our priorities are well documented so come on JP get it sorted!

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@44 Nick The Greek
I can think of a few people in the game who haven’t played professional football

Like… a certain Real Madrid coach.

The point is, I believe in RDM far more than I ever did Mowbray. Soon as he brought in Grant I know we were doomed.

Watch out Bluenoses!

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66. Doyle is one of the main reasons we are still in the prem so i think money well spent. amazing how we are happy with our signings in fact the only people moaning about our signings are baggies fans. (figure that one out) all you hear is we wouldnt want to sign anyone wolves have sighned. its pathetic.

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69 Michael I totally agree, all this “my dad is bigger” on both sides is pathetic,I like banter as well as the next bloke but the majority of comments are moronic.

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69, no doubt after youv watched your boring 0-0 opener with stoke you will be rushing home to watch tv and see two proper footballing teams,aye boing boing

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69 michael.
Long time no see. At least under this name. Good to have you back on our pages.

Doyle is definitely a good player and I’ve never said otherwise. In a good team with proper service he’d be a fifteen goal a season man in the PL. I wish he was with us, I’m sure he’d hit that target.

I’ve said before now on here that I think Fletcher is a decent player that could have done a good job for us. I think the the only question is, would I have spent £7mill on him? Only time will tell but no doubt you lot won’t be slow in letting him know if he doesn’t live up to your expectations.

Stephen Hunt. Yes you’ve got him at a good price. No doubt that will be reflected in his signing fee and wages. If he stays fit he’ll be a good signing if not he’ll be like a financial lead weight.

Well michael. That’s an honest opinion from a Baggie about your lot, let’s hope you will be as honest about us.

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61 Warren.
Good post.
Don’t give up on reverberating your cranium against the oblong mass of hardened clay partition.

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78.
Thanks Shadrag.

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80 Forever Albion

Kevin Phillips

As stated above, Jose Mourinho never played the game at senior level.

How can this be JP’s fault? He doesn’t identify the transfer targets. If we spend no money between now and the end of August, it’s an argument worth debate, but I’ll bet my life on it we will. Have some faith.

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76. I appreciate your opinion and this is mine regarding the Albion.

Carson, Zuiverloon, Olsson, Cech, Mattock, Miller, Bednar, Moore, Wood, Cox, Barnes, Thomas are not good enough for the premier league.

The jury is out on Dorrans (why nobody else came in for him) Mulumbu, Jara, Tamas, Brunt and Morrison (back from injury) with three of these players being present when you finished bottom 14 months ago.

Hull didnt get a single point when Hunt didnt play, Fletcher got 12 goals in his first season with a relegated side and is only 23. Mouyokolo had exceptional ratings last season and Van Damme falls into the same catagory as Jara, Tamas etc.

I hope the Albion can stay up but without being bias you are quite a way behind Wolves at this moment. Best of luck for the season.

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I also think that RDM is going to park 3-4 buses, Djemba-Djemba, Reid, Mulumbu, Jara, Tamas. He is brighter than Mowbray.

You also need to improve the calibre of signings, Lee Grant has decided to go to Burnley over Albion, Boateng, Djemba-Djemba, Lonergan time to start taking this seriously.

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Morning
Nicky Shorey also springs to mind. Not sure Mr Mattock would like it but NS did a great job for Forest and has been a bit unlucky at Villa.

Don’t recall Big Ron having that great a career but he was responsible for some of the best players we ever saw at the Hawthorns. A certain Cyrille Regis who didn’t cost a randsom either springs to mind.

My issue with DA is that I don’t fully understand where his role starts or ends and the roles of JP and RDM begin.

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AMS
Ronnie Allen signed Cyrille Regis not Ron Atkinson, who inherited a very good team, but to be fair got them playing great football.
Please JP release the purse-strings, we have to speculate to some degree to compete at this level….can’t believe JP hasn’t learned the lessons of previous Premiership campaigns ?

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88,Forever Albion
You are quite right about Jeremy and his main interest about strenghthening his shareholder position.I know quite a few shareholders who personally know Jeremy and he has that club ticking like clockwork with Dan Ashworth and Mark Jenkins taking the main roles,however that may be part of the problem as the club may never really be serious about competing in the Premier where clubs of our stature to compete have to take a small gamble or be taken over by another investor with loads of money.Why does Jeremy want more shares? Is he looking to sell ?

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Im afraid this is level of player you will have to expect with the small amount of resources you have available.

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I find it somewhat difficult to understand why baggies fans have a go at the money Wolves have spent this summer and last year.First fact is that they stayed up something ,we have only managed once by a stroke of sheer luck.Secondly they have added strength to areas they looked weak on last year bought in a striker.Ok Hunt might struggle to get into the baggies team but players like Doyle and Fltecher would start for certain.

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Sorry but this signing for me is a shocker , he is not a decent player at all. Sol Campbell linked with a move today and we are linked with this shocker, Blackpool 11 points Albion 30 points at the moment , No quality means no goals no goals means rlegation I am afraid.

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Black Country Wolf

I doubt you have ever seen these guys play.
CARSON-Ex England International,played for the
likes of Liverpool and Villa,still only young
and fantastic shot stopper,great captain for
the Albion.
ZUIVERLOON-Albions best player until mid-season when confidence went due to us loosing
most weeks,great potencial with his pace and
goal scoring ablitly and will probably be used
as a winger this season.
OLSSON-Albions best defender and one of the
only positives to come out of that disaster
season under Mowbray.
CECH-This guy should of been in the team ahead
of the NO`1 donky Paul Robinson,played well
for those few games then got dropped for no
reason.
MATTOCK-Not good enough for Championship never
mind Prem.
COX-dont really rate him,decent Champ player.
WOOD-Decent player for such a young age.
BARNES-This kid would be playing for a top 8
team if it wasnt for his injury problems,
looks back to fitness and Albion fans looking
forward to seeing him in Prem.
THOMAS-Another who has had his fare share of
injury problems,our best player on his day.

Lets look at the possible Wolves starting 11:
HAHNEMANN
ZUBAR MOUYOKOLO CRADDOCK VAN-DAMME
JARVIS GUEDIOURA HENRY JONES FLETCHER
DOYLE.
This really gonna keep you in the Prem?
HAHNEMANN
FOLEY ZUBAR MOUYOKOLO VAN-DAMME
KIGHTLY GUEDIOURA HENRY HUNT
DOYLE FLETCHER.
This really gonna keep you in the Prem?
Nah! thought not!!!

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87 AMS.
I agree with your point about BFR not being a great footballer but as Simon pointed out, he inherited that entire team from Ronnie Allen who brought in Godden, Martin, Cunningham, Regis. Don Howe brought Wile, Ally Brown, and Johnson. Statham, Cantello, Robertson, Robson, Trewick and Bomber all came through youth ranks. BFR did bring in Batson from Cambridge but I think he inherited him there

He did bring in Barnes and Owen for big money but they were already established stars. He also brought in Mills and Deehan for big money and hadn’t a clue what to do with them.

BFR. A legend in his own lunchtime.

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102 Forever.
I think what he’s said is that he would sell if someone with more money who wouldn’t damage the club came in.
The last time we had a football team established in the top flight was the early eighties. This is the closest we’ve come to it since then. So cut the bloke responsible for it a bit of slack.
There’s an old saying ‘beware what you wish for.’ If JP decides he’s had enough of the sniping and sells up, the future could look very bleak.
Unless you have a Plan B that is.

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Forever Baggie

History also shows that Stoke City spent more than 100% of their turnover on wages/salaries in their first Premiership season. If they’d not survived, they’d have been in a terrible pickle.

For every Stoke that did it, there’s a Bradford City, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby County or Leeds United that didn’t.

It’s easy for us to say after the event that it wasn’t enough, but ultimately we spent more on our last visit to the Prem than almost all teams around us.

JP can only do so much. If he sanctions £23m of spending, it’s not him to blame that it gets spent on the likes of Valero, Moore and Meite.

If TM had spent that on Barry Ferguson, Lee Bowyer, Chucho Benitez, Scott Dann and Roger Johnson, we might’ve finished tenth and we’d be all lauding him as a hero.

You ask he learns his lessons from last time, so he limits the transfer funds and makes more available for wages yet you are crucifying him before the end of July. Give it a chance.

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Honestly if you’re all gonna call us dingles and ‘Shadrag’ get it right, It’s ‘Shadrack’

Honestly…

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Weem in grave danger of becoming a total laughing stock if the story about our interest in Eric D-D has any substance. From memory he could’nt tackle a fish supper nor trap a bag of cement…the only thing he was lacking….was ability !!

Its getting to the tragic stage now I’m afraid and once again the chairmans talk about spending big seem to be just more hot air. We all know that JP is keen to sell the club, so I guess the healthier our ‘cash at bank’ situation will mean a higher price for him. With the new season soon to be upon us, I’ve never felt so depressed about the aura of apathy that’s surrounding the club that means so much…to so many.

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Warren, love the banter but dont think Mowbray wanted Moore that was done solely by JP because of the Davies situation at Villa. Tony never wanted Moore.Also he is just about highest earner. I still struggle with this £23m spending but if you account for wages over the period of the contract then possible but we have not accounted this year for Greening & Robinson & that is about £7m income when we talk over being £10m in debt. I admire your faith in our Chairman, at least Streetlybaggie understands wider picture!

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RDM, JP and DA all know we need two more quality strikers. They are lining up loan deals to off load some of our periferal strikers so that competition will be fierce in that department.
We will get players in. We already have a very strong base to go from.
Despite what is being said about most of our side being relegated bottom last time here is a more than likely starting 11:
Carson, Jara, Olsson, Ibanez, Cech, Brunt, Dorrans, Thomas, Djemba-Djemba, Mulumbu, and new striker.
There are only 3 players who regularly played that season 4 if we don’t sign a striker and one of them was our top scorer that season.
We are a very different prospct this season and I hope teams will write us off as most fans have, because we have the ability to prove them wrong this time.
As a great book once said,
DON’T PANIC!
Boing Boing

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Streetly106. This old chestnut gets aired regularly. Johnny Giles was astute as a player-manager, astute enough to use Ronnie Allen to assess who was worth buying. You will discover that when Regis was offered for £5,000, the directors said,’No thanks’, but Ronnie said, ‘OK, I’ll put up the £5,000, (a goodly sum in 1978) and then when he succeeds, I’ll sell him to the club’. They bought him then. Johnny and Ronnie knew more about good players than anyone at the time. From memory only, Ronnie took over when Johnny walked out of the club and in the few months up to Christmas, took us to 4th in Division 1, playing the sort of football we wallowed in. Then, our directors of the time, wouldn’t give him a contract, the Saudis came in and he left. A DAMN DISGRACE ! A ‘Bosses v Workers’ story of those days of yore.

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Again from the Danish media: The Djemba deal is 99%. Told you earlyer that he had 2 years left on his contract, and and the price is 12 mill Danish Kroner ( about pounds 1 million ). Judging on the response on here about having him on a free, there are gonna be some happy baggies around here tomorrow ( NOT ) Danish Baggie

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Sorry, 1,3 – 1,4 millions that should be

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Forever

Thumbs up for the banter as well, it’s obvious you’re a proper, genuine supporter which is what it’s all about. Still…….I can’t bring myself to agree on JP!!

The £7m income re: Greening/Robinson wasn’t accounted for in the £10m debt because their transfers took place after the date to which the accounts were made up. However they’ll have been “accounted for” in budgets drawn up and considered from the days the agreements were put in place, which doesn’t necessarily mean “the transfer budget’s spent” as some people seem to have taken it.

I suspect you’ll see a slightly different overall reserves/debt figure this year with the write-ups on player values (estimates), that were the main reason for the debt figure in the first place.

All this talk of creative accounting, JP doesn’t do these accounts himself, they are independently audited within standard accounting practice. He can’t ‘lose’ £10m on player write-downs if it’s not the standard way of treating an asset.

For reasons for us not being loaded, see the ‘Wages/salaries’ column in each year’s accounts.

Anyway to the current situation, I think your cynicism’s healthy, but until midnight on August 31st, who are we to judge whether JP has intention of spending or not? Do you not think you and Streetly are being prematurely judgemental with this?

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121, Warren
If you look back at my notes on 26, I said I will reserve my comments until September 1st !!.Latest news is that the Djemba deal has fallen through which will please many on these pages.

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