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Friday 19th March 2010, 9:15AM GMT.
Wolves blogger Nathan Lloyd felt something more inspiring than football after listening to the never-ending determination of Geoff Thomas’ second shot at life.
When I popped over to Vienna last November, I dropped in to watch Stefan Maierhofer’s former club Rapid Vienna on the training ground.
Whilst there I had a chat with a young player, Christian Thonhofer, who is good friends with Stefan and asked me how I thought he was settling in at Wolves.
If I met Christian today, I would probably give him the same diplomatic answer as I gave him back then. I told him that we’d only seen glimpses of him, and I’m sure that he’s probably frustrated at his lack of first-team opportunities.
Christian told me he had spoken to Stefan after we had lost at home to Birmingham and the Hoff had expressed how disappointed – or let’s just say it was a slightly stronger term than disappointed – that he didn’t feature in a game where the ball was being endlessly lumped into the box.
So this week’s news that Maierhofer had allegedly felt that Wolves were taking the mickey out of him shouldn’t really surprise anybody.
Even if his comments have been slightly misinterpreted, of course he is going to be unhappy at not playing, who wouldn’t be?
And when he sees manager Mick McCarthy pick Andy Keogh ahead of him after training for just a couple of days after coming back from long term injury, I’m sure he found that hard to swallow.
Maierhofer got subbed when we played a vastly weakened team at Old Trafford and must feel baffled as to why he hasn’t had a sniff since.
From the little cameo appearances I’ve seen, I don’t know if he is good enough to have a big impact. But surely if the club spends £2million on what was really a panic buy at the end of the summer transfer window, shouldn’t he get a fair crack of the whip?
Now, frustrated and fed up, he finds himself on loan at managerless Bristol City and, if there is an ounce of truth in the statement he made to the press, he has probably written his own transfer request.
My dear mucka Mick doesn’t really take kindly to anybody challenging his methods. Just ask the likes of Roy Keane, Jay Bothroyd, Freddy Eastwood, Michael McIndoe and Denes Rosa what happens when you dare question the great Eagle’s ways.
But if what the Hoff said was reported accurately, wouldn’t it be refreshing for a player to actually come out with an opinion, rather than just media trained sound bites?
How many times do you see a Premier League footballer interviewed on TV after a game and, when asked a probing question, they just answer like a castrated robot?
I loved it when Craig Bellamy recently told the press that “everybody knows what JT is like,” when asked about John Terry’s off the pitch conduct after Manchester City had given Chelsea a proper thumping at Stamford Bridge.
OK, I know that Bellamy’s no moral guardian, just ask his caddy, but it’s a shame that most footballers play it so safe with the media for fear of unwanted attention and flak.
England goalkeeper David James flippantly remarked at the end of one interview that he used to play computer games up to eight hours a day. Although he also commented it was 13 years ago and right at the start of his career, it was reported as if it was a gaming addiction he couldn’t shake off in the present day.
But there is a fine line between having an interesting opinion and saying something so utterly moronic that the player in question just can’t expect the outcome to be a positive one. On that note, what did Albert Riera expect would happen when comparing Liverpool’s season to a sinking ship?
So, you can understand why a player might be slightly guarded with the press, but don’t you just want to stick your boot through the TV sometimes when you see a player string together a bunch of footballing cliches in a post-match interview?
To quote the excellent sportswriter John Nicholson: -
“Cliche hell will be complete one day when there is a player who is a bubbly character, who has good feet for a big man, has got pace to burn, can leap like a salmon and out-strength someone while plowing a lone furrow up front who, at the end of the day, believes there are no easy games in international football, and its the not the performance that matters its the three points.”
Two players who I don’t think will have received much in the way of media training in their playing days are Steve Bull and Geoff Thomas.
Last night I went over to Codsall to see the excellent BBC football commentator, Jacqui Oatley, interview the pair on stage in aid of the Geoff Thomas Foundation.
Former Wolves captain, Geoff Thomas, who Bully quite rightly described as “a top man to be fair”, spoke eloquently about his battle against leukeamia and his continued determination to delivery new pioneering drugs from the scientist’s lab to the patient.
It was touching to hear Geoff talk about the two lives he feels he has had, and is now doing all he can to bang the drum to give more people a better chance of surviving what is still quite a rare blood cancer.
There were stories of his epic Tour De France, which won him a special BBC Sports Personality award in 2005 and of course that miss against France in 1992.
Bully was also on top form, as he recounted stories of Gazza being a flawed genius and a pain in the backside, exactly how he felt when Mark McGhee put him and Robbie Keane on the bench for the FA Cup semi-final, along with how many players he feels Mick needs to sign in the summer if we stay up.
But for once, Bully took second billing behind the inspirational Mr Thomas. It’s fitting that a footballer who was most famous for botching a shot should become famous as an ex-footballer who is making the most of his second shot at life.
If we could take just an ounce of Geoff’s determination into the away trips to Villa and West Ham this coming week, we may well have a fighting chance of a point or two.
We all know that the victory at Turf Moor was slightly fortuitous, but our chances of survival are growing ever stronger, especially as with Hull experiencing a change in management with Phil Brown out and Iain Dowie in this week.
By the time Everton roll into town next week, we could have put a little bit more daylight between us and the bottom three. Daylight? I’m beginning to sound like a post-match Premier League footballer!
Enjoy your weekend. Up the Wolves!
To find out more about Geoff’s charity, please visit www.geoffthomasfoundation.com
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Roy Keane: Questioned the integrity of his manager during a knock out competition. Surely the majority of managers with their squads best interest at heart would have reacted in the same way.
Jay Bothroyd: Lazy & inconsistent at a time when our thread bare squad needed those exact qualities. To question the work that MM did with that squad in that particular period of his time at Wolves is amazing.
Freddy Eastwood: Would only play the role he wanted, not a team player, and look how he’s faired since.
Michael McIndoe: Bristol City are a bigger club and will enhance his internatinal chances…….since sent to Coventry.
Denes Rosa: The only one on this list that genuinely didn’t fit with MM’s plans, although I did truly feel sorry for him.
Ive said it before – Keogh came back against Bolton and played on the wing due to our limitations in that position. Would you serioulsy have played the Hoff on the wing instead of Keogh ??
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Geoff, you are an inspiration. Make me feel quite humble. Good luck with the foundation.
I’m following you on Twitter along with the Wolvesblogger.
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Yes the Hoff has not had much opportunity but for someone who is 6’7 he does not jump at all. He has also had his fair share of injuries.
If he wants to get back in our first team, he needs to start scoring a bucket load of goals at Bristol City. If he fails then he needs to shut it.
Anyway on to the Vile. A draw is about as much as we can hope but you never know. A win at West Ham is more realistic. Either way other results should go our way – Wigan v Hull is a problem one and we need a draw or a Wigan win plus Pompey to beat Burnley!
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With regards to Maierhofer I could not agree with him more whether the comments we misinterpreted or not. He really has been mistreated and surely deserved more of a chance than he has been given. So we have anothe Frankowski (spelling) on our hands – great!
With regards to Geoff Thomas the only regret we as Wolves fans have is that he was always crocked. Pity as when he did play he was fantastic. Best of luck Geoff you are an inspiration to us all.
Bully is a legend to all Wolves fans- what a player and a loyal player at that!
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Nice blog! Interesting to work out that Hoff has only had 163 league mins on the pitch which includes 54 mins in only start. So not much gave time.
You may be correct that he was a panic buy, a bit like BIA. Sometimes you wonder how often Mick watches some the signings before he buys them.
Could have been interested to see if Hoff could got some flick ons from a Halfords throw. Now that’s a change of attack and maybe cause teams issues.
“Excellent BBC football commentator, Jacqui Oatley” – You must be kidding! Her typical commentating goes like this (all in the same tone and no excitement) Torres…. gets the ball in the box…..Shoots…Scores…….Goal. Never has any facts or stats. I make sure I press Mute when she is on!
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Everyone knows that Alex Raes Butler sends a lot of time in the wine cellar.He is a big friend of McCarthy so he doesn`t have a mind of his own,if he did he would see that Wolves have their worst Manager in history and will get nowhere while he is in charge.Just as has been said already,you do things like McCarthy says or he will whrow you and his rattle out of the pram.
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I went last night and had a thoroughly entertaining evening. Both Bully and Geoff were entertaining in very different ways and Jacqui…..well she’s every football fans dream woman, mine included ;-)
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6) I do not agree with some of his choices and MM is extremely stubborn but you are either a Tesco or gone mad in the Spanish sun if you think he is the worst manager. The facts are Mick had to build a squad from scratch and got us up within 3 years. This did not cost much and the squad is full of young internationals who will only get better. If we had have had Kites, Murray and Edwards fit all season we would have been safe by now.
It looks like we will stay up and if that happens MM will be going nowhere!
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Trust Nathan to side with Maierhofer.
Aquilani has only just started to get a game for Liverpool and he cost £25m!
Players are famous for blaming everybody other than themselves.
The only truth of the matter is the Hoff isn’t first choice because of the system we have adopted. Doyle is the obvious better selection.
Mick has seen PWA (Players With Attitude) come and go, it wont bother him if Maierhofer is sulking, we’re trying to stay in the league utilising a system that has so far bought us some valuable points, some good performances and a much steadier ship, coming into the final stages of the season. He ay gonna change it all for the Hoff!
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I was at Codsall last night and I loved Bully talking about how utterly useless McGhee was and how Robbie Keane has dodgy knees.
I disagree with Wolves AY I. I think Jacqui is quite good on the commentating. She did the Burnley vs Wolves game last week and you can hear she was struggling to keep it together.
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Should be re-titled, ‘a stick I have found that I can beat Mick with because I know that there’s a proportion of (sadly) vocal fans of limited intelligence who don’t like him’
Sadly for you this turned out to be a twig, as usual Nathan your blog yet again confirms that education system has some major faults
While you continue to offer yourself up in a popularity contest, no one will ever take you seriously. If you look at the standard of comments supporting your ‘arguments’ then I feel you will see a sliding scale of intelligence
It’s only out of some morbid curiosity that I bother to read your so called blog, if there’s any justice in the world the E&S will sack you and replace you with a weather vane (the weather vane having more integrity as it is meant to change with the wind)
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the* education… oh the irony!
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Should be re-titled, ‘a stick I have found that I can beat Mick with because I know that there’s a proportion of (sadly) vocal fans of limited intelligence who don’t like him’
Sadly for you this turned out to be a twig, as usual Nathan your blog yet again confirms that the education system has some major faults
While you continue to offer yourself up in a popularity contest, no one will ever take you seriously.
It’s only out of some morbid curiosity that I bother to read your so called blog, if there’s any justice in the world the E&S would replace you with a weather vane (the weather vane having more integrity as it is meant to change with the wind)
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Thank you Newbridge for your feedback as always.
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A little harsh Newbridge Wolf!
So your convincing pro McCarthy counter argument to Nathan’s pro Hoff ‘arguments’ is:
‘The education system is flawed, therefore Mick is right, & The Hoff is wrong’
Yes, I agree, the standard of intelligent comments has slidden off the charts.
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Bully – fantastic.
Geoff Thomas – great when he was fit and still a top man.
The Hoff – not enough time on the pitch, but something we don’t know about happened within the club.
Moxey – can’t see how even a plonker like him can misinterpret ‘….they’re taking the piss out of me’…..!
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I wish everyone would stop saying the hof cant jump for a big guy. Play the ball in front of him and we might have a decent player.
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I have to say that both opponents of MM and his adherents are all losing perspective here. In no way is Mick the worst manager we have had, and likewise not by a LONG way is he the best manager we have had either. What he did in getting us promoted was remarkable given the state of affairs he inherited. However, he is UNDOUBTEDLY stubborn, certainly has his favourites and is most likely NOT the man to lead Wolves long term. Before I am attacked for daring to state some of Saint Micks shortcomings by his sycophantic disciples, let me say I am a WOLVES fan first and foremost ALWAYS. Players, managers and chairmen come and go but the club is always there and most important. No manager is bigger than the club and personally (as I am allowed to have my own opinion in a DEMOCRACY) I would like to see a new manager with better man management skills, a better eye for new players and greater tactical awareness take over in the summer even if we stay up. Blind loyalty to MM cos he got us up won’t keep us in the Prem when the quality is better next season
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So Newbridge Wolf, If I am not MMs greatest Fan I am of limited intelligence,and you my friend because you live in an affluent area (presumably as your name would suggest)Are far more intelligent because you love the man.
Like myself Nathan says as he sees it and in my opinion does a very good job.If you were blogging no doubt week in week out we would be told about the GREATEST MANAGER we have had in 30 years.
In a result minded business Our great manager has had limited success ( 7 wins in 57) but should he manage to keep us up I will be on here saying well done Mick and thanks.BUT once the summer comes I will be looking to see a shift in his attitude and a desire to bring in quality players in the areas we are so sadly lacking,LB CB and Goalscorer at the very least.
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Regardless of MM’s shortcomings I believe that we will stay up.
I only hope that this will be backed by a few decent signings not like the formentioned Hoff. How much would the Wolves get for him if sold? This would be a true reflection of the managers ability to pick and buy players.
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My take on things:
McCarthy is a shouting dictator of a manager, and while this is great for whipping people into shape and establishing the discipline needed at a club for success, it does not work well in the long run. His leadership style will probably work for another season tops and at that point wolves will have to say “thank you for all your hard work, you’ve helped get us where we are today but we feel that going forward will require another management style”. They can then try o sign someone like O’Neil who needs the clubs he manages to have some of the discipline that managers like McCarthy creates already in place to build from.
Two different types of managers for two different times.
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