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Wolves 0 Manchester United 1
Saturday 6th March 2010, 7:05PM GMT.
Wolves were again made to rue golden chances missed and a mistake as Paul Scholes’ goal made it four defeats in five for Mick McCarthy’s men at Molineux.
Scholes notched his 100th Premier League goal 17 minutes from time, after Jody Craddock’s clearance hit him to coolly slot home from seven yards out.
The home side were left to rue the unmarked Stephen Ward heading straight at goalkeeper Edwin Van der Sar from six yards in the 36th minute from Matt Jarvis’s cross.
Substitute Sam Vokes also blazed over from six yards from Andy Keogh’s cross in the second minute of stoppage time, before heading narrowly wide as Wolves attempted to throw everything into it at the death.
United, who didn’t include Wayne Rooney in their 18 despite him travelling, were second best in the first-half as Wolves gradually grew in confidence.
In a fairly tepid opening period, it was Mick McCarthy’s men who created the first chance after six minutes.
It was a rare chance for tireless striker Kevin Doyle, who was disappointed to drag a weak left foot effort wide after exchanging passes with Jarvis.
United threatened through former Wolves loan midfielder Darron Gibson, who poked just wide when off balance after the defence had failed to clear Antonio Valencia’s free kick.
But the hosts, who were angered when Nani escaped a booking for catching his studs in Ronald Zubar’s face, created the best two openings of the half within four minutes of each other.
Ex-United reserve David Jones’s first-time shot flew straight at Van der Sar on 32 minutes to cap an excellent move started by Doyle on the edge of his own penalty area, which continued with a 40-yard surge upfield before spreading play to Jarvis for a cross.
Then came Ward’s chance, where you were left to wonder whether Wolves would get a better opportunity.
United, who replaced Wes Brown with Gary Neville at half-time, improved after the break and Dimitar Berbatov had two efforts blocked by Jody Craddock and Christophe Berra, before goalkeeperMarcus Hahnemann denied Patrice Evra’s toe-poked shot.
The game then started to open up as United switched from 4-5-1 to 4-4-2 with the introduction of Mame Briam Diouf for Gibson.
With more space, Wolves grew in confidence in their pursuit of a breakthrough.
Kevin Foley miskicked from a scoring position after a high speed run and cross from Jarvis, before the flow of the game was slightly disrupted by bookings to Nemanja Vidic, Craddock and Jones.
But unfortunately for Wolves, the crucial onechance went to United and Scholes, who needed no second invitation.
There was no way back, despite the late drama to make next Saturday’s trip to Burnley a real cliffhanger.
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A brave attempt, but if you don’t score goals you can’t win.
We have now scored less goals than anyone else in the Premiership, and as a result we are doomed to go down.
Just relax and enjoy the last games of the Premiership season.
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Unfortunately we have scored less goals than any team in the football league with the exception of Darlington and have now failed to score in 16 of the 28 matches we have played in the premier . We are also now in danger of burning out our best player by expecting him to do everything without reasonable support and we have a manager who is telling us that Doyle WILL go if we get relegated . There is only one person who should go and we will have to wait and see if that happens . We will , however , continue to support our side whatever the outcome at the end of the season let us just hope for a miracle .
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took the words right out of my mouth mate…I couldn’t agree more
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Doyle is, rightly, forging his future with such performances. His performances are his investment for his future
Doyle will attract some top Premier sides…along with Gudioura!
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Mick to go and take Ward with him. All our goals against have come from Wards left side position. We ended with our side plus championship players [except our right back]from last season. Micks buys have all failed except Doyle. You get what you pay for, Moxey and Mick please note! No quality from midfield and no goals. But the big regret is the failure of Blake who should be redfaced when he gets paid each month.
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“Mick’s buys have all failed except Doyle” ? How about Hahnemann and Zubar ? …and Milijas is quality when he gets a game.
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Have We really scored more goals than Darlington….Now that’s what we need some positivity, some good news.
Must be right proud of yourself MM, what a ——- achievement that is.
With an election looming I keep thinking that Morgan is a Brown supporter and does not want to add to the unemployment figures, so like all the other cuts around the corner we will have to wait until after the election.
Totally OUTRAGEOUS.
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So its “Job Done” then? I would like to take this opportunity to thank Messrs Moxey, McCarthy and Connor for their brilliant management during the season and particularly Mr Morgan for his superlative financial input into the club. Under their leadership I shall look forward to future glory days in the top flight and in particular, our entry into Europe during the 2010/11 season.
Must go now to buy my Early Bird. Don’t want to be crushed in the rush
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An excellent performance by the team and an entertaing game, we were let down again by a poor clearance, the Manager again not taking the opportunity to change to an attacking side 60-65 min when the game was in our grasp. What is the point of putting 3 attacking players on after 80 mins, taking off two of our best players. leaving Henry on the field. Vokes misses were inexcusable, it is all about taking your chances. If we do not score goals we will not survive.
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Agree totally! No goals = championship football next season. At least we can all look forward to the World Cup, unless you’re Welsh, Scottish etc etc
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yup i’m looking forward to the world cup, Milijas will be going to prove a point, why buy him again ??? oh yeah great passer and dead ball expert, no cause he looks good on the bench !!!
great performance but why oh why did we not try harder to get another striker !!!
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I agree…
and to answer your question…
because we were too concerned with a certain left midfielder…and forgot about everything else.
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This is what you get from a manager who was a defender……albeit a good defender… the die is cast from the outset!
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It’s all right saying vokes miss was iexcusable,but when you have only just come on it isn’t that easy to get into the pace of the game.ATleast he made the space for himself to create the chances which nobody else has been able to do for weeks.He should haqve been playing more often from the start of a matchbut unfortunately his face doesn’t with Mccarthy unlike a certain left back
old wolf
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It’s been said many times and the words still ring true; you get punished for your mistakes in the PL. Man Utd made no mistakes and when they had the chance they took it; Wolves on the other hand, despite all their effort, failed to convert their chances and made one mistake and were clinically punished.
As was said so many times in the commentary, Wolves lacked that final ball, the quality to break through. Doyle was expected to do too much; he dropped into midfield and brought the ball out but had no outlet except for Jarvis on the wing. HE should have been the outlet and one of our 5 midfielders should have been the one bringing the ball forward. His play suggests he has little faith in our Midfield to create chances.
So just like Chelski the week before, Man Utd rested some of their players and never really needed to get out of second gear to secure the victory. They took all three points with minimal effort.
More worrying for Wolves is it looks like Bolton are clawing themselves clear with back to back wins…and then there were SIX
Burnley next week truly is do-or-die!
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A valient attempt but one good man up front
(Doyle) although keeping the loss respectable, is still a loss. The greed of the owners not to invest in another striker of quality has let us down.
Business wise they couldn’t care less if we do go down. Parachute money, lower salaries, same gate money and attendance,all add up.
The agenda was and still is that if we stay up all well and good but we can’t risk money doing so incase we are stuck with players on high salaries if we go down. Leave it a season then if we are lucky we may invest on new players. Appears to be the attitude.
We have far too many Championship players out of their depth in this division. Luckily so do a few other clubs, who are all fighting relegation.
MM must be seething about the lack of funds. The truth will out.
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MM spent 11 million on to many players who are clearly not good enough.Quality rather than quantity should have been the order of the day.
Robbie Keane in January for 2.4 million inclusive of his 70,000 a week wages may just have kept us up.Anybody who really believes we went for him are sadly deluded.
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Well done Malta, yet more constructive critisim, maybe if we’d of signed Gazza in the eighties we might of won the league?? so lets all regret together and blame mick for everything.
We’ll keep the white flag flyin’ high!
You absolute muppet.
Ps We played well today, and I for one was really proud of the lot of em.
Come on wolves, we can do it.
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MM put the white flag up not me.
Yes we played really well yesterday but like Albion found out last year good performances don’t always bring points.
Also if you cant see that signing a striker to play alongside Doyle might be the difference between Premiership football or the fizzy pop league in 2010/11 then YOU are the muppet.
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I agree with Malti…..Sir Lupi, you are the muppet.
We needed a striker to partner Doyle from Day 1 of the season. The signing of The Hoff was speculative, at best, and Vokes was always one for the future.
As for SEB, I think he has lived off the fat of the land thinking he had ‘made it’ and Keough was just unlucky to get injured.
I think we have suffered that MM was a defender and his thinking is along those lines only!
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There are 3 sides worse than Wolves. And that is all that really matters.
Get into battle mode people. We will only need 30-35 points to stay up. Do the math.
We do not have to score loads and we do not have to win every week. We need to win 2 out of 10. We still have Burnley and Pompey to play.
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robbie keane story was a load of bull !!! funny how the story came to light after the window shut,. either media rubbish or a moxey smokescreen
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Forget about Robbie Keane. If the choice was Celtic or us, it will be Celtic all day long. We might get him back here but not until has last couple of footballing years!
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we lack belief/confidence,also very short on ideas going forward ,how many times must we say ,we played well ,deserved something?,4 of our next 5 games are away from home ,we also have to play arsenal /villa away,you would have thought mick would have changed the formation on the hour mark ,instead with 7 mins left ,mick has done a great job up to now but his lack of tactical ability /awareness in a league such as this is rubbing off on the players who constantly pass backwards/sideways,cant shoot ,dont mark properley,at times players not sure where to stand ,the team is young and growing and learning but it comes down to points,nothing less than a win vs burnley will do as a draw wont help really
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no disrespect to ward, but standing 10 yards of valencia all match and then backing off instead of putting a foot in was always going to be our undoing, please put stearman back in the side. ward trys but he is no prem standard defender. second half ferguson saw this and exploited it. great performance but i still think we can stay up. please play 2 up front against Burnley mick ( not Blake to small and slow for the prem, prove me wrong )
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Daytona, You are so right.I have sometimes tried to defend Ward but it was clear yesterday that after halftime they concentrated on attacking us from their right.With Nani moving flanks and doubling up with Valencia.
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Same all season not enough quality upfront,not enough balls from wings and unable to score. Man Utd were there for the taking.Playing reasonably well counts for nothing.More of the same,no thanks lets go out attacking.Pompey showed us the way to do it.
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Another incredible effort by our boys. some fantastic play in midfield and some kamikaze defending at the back made a draw a distinct possibility.
However, 1 striker who’s having to track back to try and create his own chances from midfield means we are and will remain the lowest scoring team in the division.
An undoubted superhuman effort, but it is and will continue to be undermined by an inability to close in the final third.
I dont think mick knows how to rectify this and i dont think WWFC board is prepared to fork out the cash to bring in the personnel necessary.
In closing i would like to give a special thanks to Jarvis and Gedioura for sparks of sublime play and yet again, another epic performance by Kevin Doyle.
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Does anyone else think that Wolves won’t score a goal between now and the end of this awful season ?
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Course we will score again! Have u got a brain?
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Does anyone think you’ll find your brain between now and May?
You idiot.
We’re 17th and have just lost narrowly to team who are top of the league.
Standard fodder from a Wolves ‘fan’ though isn’t it?
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well done lads but if you don,t have shots on goal how do you expect to score and when your centre forward is all over the park how do you expect to score when ther no one in the box,like watching a glen hoodle side all over again.MM have got to start playing with two up front again and why o why did it take that long to make the subs the ball had gone out twice before he brought on the two and vokes come on with two mintues left and had tow sitters .did not deserve to get nothing
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Ground Hog day again!!
Wolves nil
Wolves nil
Wolves nil
Wolves nil
Please McCarthy just go.
Im not judging you on tonights game but the whole season and watching your team is bloody boring.
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I agree mate i would have prefered to have go with the same setup as last season rather than the bodge job we have this season! No-one seems to have pointed out that the system we are currently playing won our first away game of the season,if he had kept that system away from home and kept the same 4 4 2 system at home that has won games against Fulham,Burnley and Bolton i dont think we would be in the position we are now even with the poor signings and unbalanced squad weve got.
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how are we doomed to go down? get your facts straight… we’re still outside the bottom three, and playing well. stop being so miserable and start adding some positive comments. if i were a wolves player and i started reading the ramblings of some so called ‘fans’ on this website i would wonder ‘why bother’
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couldnt agree more
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totally agree, but to be fair you never hear this at the games, so credit to the fans who do go. would be easy to vent our frustration at the game so these forums do work if only to get it off our chest. COME ON YOU WOLVES
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Why bother!! because they get paid a fortune
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we’re outside the bottomn 3 on goal difference.
With our current scoring record..things aren’t looking bright.
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8 goals in frint of Hull and doing better than Burnley. That’s all we need.
Cheer up, could be like 2003. We don’t have a divine right to be here and as long as we have some sort of hope, which the Utd game sort of gave, then just get over yourself and stop bloody moaning!
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Yes, we were well organised; yes we were committed, and as always, honest. But the plain fact is, we carry liitle threat- it’s much too easy for teams to build up a head of steam against us,as we conceed posession too easily; and at this level, when a team spend 5-10 minutes at a time encamped in and around your 18 yard area, the chances are that a goal will come.
We can’t pretend that today was formality, merely a distraction from the real task at hand. Burnley took 3 points off United; we failed to score against them in 3 attempts. We’ve won 1 game in 10, taking 5 points from a possible 30, since Christmas. I’m sure even Mick would conceed the 40 point survival target he set is now way beyond us (entailing 5 wins and a draw from 10 remaining games).
We MUST win next week to retain a realistic interest, and we probably can’t afford to lose any of our remaining home games. A daunting task, indeed.
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games at home, stoke, sunderland, everton, blackburn, these in my opinion are all winable games, were playing well we just need a bit of luck, so its not all doom and gloom.
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Stoke or Everton no chance!
Sunderland and Blackburn Maybe!!
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Err….didnt we get two draws Away to those teams earlier in the season!
negative negative negative!
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Realist Realist Realist.
Im looking at current form not being negative.
By the way you dont games win with blind faith and no goals!!!
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We’ve been here before – the Wigan, Hull, Blues, Pompey games were the ‘winnable’ ones, and they generated just one lousy point. I wish we’d been battered twice by Spurs in return for 9 or 10/12 points from those four games.
I go into every game 100% positive for a win, but I’ve got absolutely no confidence in whatever team plays to even get a goal. And it’s too late to tinker with the team now, there’s only ten games left.
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How many points did Burnley take from Spurs? Swings and roundabouts!
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Very good effort, what a shame Vokes couldn’t hit the target. It made me swear at the telly!! Not very ladylike and made my ginger ninja cat jump! Don’t think we’ll go down, there’s lots of effort from the players, keep the faith, games to go where we can pick up some points.
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I blogged in the week about playing this formation AGAIN its always going to end up with…. Played well but lost! Because we never look like scoring!! So teams only need to sneak one then game over!!
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Great performance, great support. The lads gave everything and matched United in all but clinical finishing. We deserved a draw, but that’s not going to change anything now, and if we can’t score, then we’re not going to stay up now matter how well we play. We desperatly need to get into the scoring habit, and that means more crosses into the box, and taking a few chances. We’re still in the hunt to survive, so despite the disappointment today, we really need to keep backing the boys.
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Does anybody think we will score another goal this season?
Thick Mick keeps telling us how well we are playing since we switched to 4-5-1, how many goals have we scored throughout that period?
I’m starting to get really angry now because we have a real chance to stay in this division, but McCarthy’s negativity is going to send us down, and he and he alone will be responsible for it.
Please, please sack him now while we still have a chance.
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Just because we have one up front doesn’t mean we are negative. In some of the games towards the start of the season playing 4 4 2, we didn’t score or create any chances. The number of chances we have created, including one of the best goals this season against spurs, has improved with this formation. Are you telling me Mick McCarthy should get the sack because Ward can’t head a ball down and Vokes can’t score from 3 yards? Any body can see we look more solid and better going forward with this formation. Besides I think Doyle prefers playing up front on his own. I don’t think he likes passing the ball unless he really has to. I guess all good strikers have that in them.
As for last night we deserved at least a draw against the champions. Should have got a point in the last few minutes. It was a good performance and entertaining. Looking at the fixtures we need a win next week and then our last three games at home are also winable. I think anything else will be a bonus. Keep the faith. UTW.
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Thank you Magic, you summed it up perfectly. MM should get sacked because no one can take their chances. Ridiculous. Seems like he is currently getting ALOT out of this squad, and has the respect of the players. He might want to bring in a exorcist, or a medicine man or a motivational speaker or SOMETHING, to try end this ridiculous goal drought though.
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Was that a typo, NOT WOLF?
How many goals have we conceded to the likes of Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Tottenham?
Our goal difference is worth a point and we now have a few games coming up that are winnable. We are creating chances with 4-5-1 and conceding hardly any goals against the best.
If we had taken the easy chances we have had this season we would be above Blues!
I’m starting to get really angry with Muppet surrender monkeys like you!
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Once again you get no points for being gallant losers.Wolves have to start thinking like winners if we are to stay up or the chance will be missed.
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Yep, that’ll do it. I’m sure these professional athletes have no competitive bones in their bodies and are just as happy losing as winning.
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It’s not wise to make decisions out of anger but Craddock, Ward and Vokes wouldn’t play on my team for many games. If you make stupid stupid mistakes and miss easy goals in the EPL, you shouldn’t be allowed on the field.
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well done boys we matched man u all the way except putting ball in net if we carry on showing that sort of fighting spirit till end of season we may just do it and stop up well done boys
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Getting too much like Groundhog Day for my liking ! Yet again,I can’t question the players’ effort and spirit but our lack of quality in the final third is going to cost us at the end of the season.
We missed the 2 best chances of the game and when United were presented with their one clear opening they made it count.
The central midfield 3 were very good tonight as were Craddock and Zubar but we have to win next week now.The ‘bad luck’ stories have to stop and games are runing out fast !
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though Zubar was outstanding, my man of the match, he was gutted again at the end, just like most of us. but who is going to play alongside Doyle ? Blake to small and slow, the hoff not seen him enough to comment, Vokes lacks experience, Keogh not match fit yet. one of the kids maybe ? big Chris means the long ball and losing possesion more. any ideas anyone
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Vokes missed a sitter, doyle £6.5 million striker who couldn’t strike a match – say’s it all really.
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I think that’s a bit harsh.
Vokes will be feeling 10 times as bad as we do today.
Doyle is not a striker at the moment, he’s a striker/winger/defender/midfielder. So playing all those positions on his own makes him a tad ineffective for me.
It’s catch 22 really. If we play 4-4-2 we lose the extra protection in the middle. If we play 4-5-1 we stop the opposition from playing better, but drastically reduce our own chances of scoring.
You certainly can’t accuse Mick of not going for it, towards the end we had 4 strikers on the pitch! I do however agree with an earlier post who said the subs should have been brought on much sooner.
That said I do chant with quite a few others on here who believe if we can carry that kind of performance into the other matches, we will (hopefully) win some. The only worry for me is that we seem to play FAR better against the bigger teams, but when we play the “lesser” teams we don’t play as well.
We shall have to see how things unfold at Turf Moor, I agree that is a game we really MUST win.
We Are Wolves.
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Great effort and really unlucky not to get soemthing out of the game. If we continue to play like that then surely our luck will change, but again, unless we play with two up front, I can’t see where the goals will come from and draws won’t do.
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We deserved a point from today’s game but again we couldn’t take our chances. I think the problem is, that Kevin Doyle is creating chances for his team-mates where the situation needs to be the other way round. When Jarvis and Doyle linked up we looked dangerous but the players’ work produce a chance for another player who couldn’t score, the best example would be Ward’s header in the first half. We need more players in the team that can make things happen so then Doyle can stay more along the front line and be in position for those chances. Milijas is one of those players who can offer the kind of creativity we need in this league, Keogh can offer more movement with football intelligence and should start against Burnley, likewise Sam Vokes who, if he had more match time under his belt, he might of scored but the thing that the media and fans must recognised is that our number 18 got into those positions, so what did Blake do when he came on? Sorry he didn’t do anything.
For all of the good work of Henry, Jones and Guedioura put in, they didn’t offer much in creativity or looked like scoring same thing with Foley, in Championship that would be okay and effective, (strangely Foley was playing up front for a time in the second half) but the standards are far higher in this league – for obvious reasons.
This part of the team is why our defence gets criticised so much, the lack of goals heats up the pressure on the back four and of course we get Paul Scholes getting in and scoring. Mick even said on radio afterwards that our goal return hasn’t been good enough this season. No disrespect but until last season a Mick McCarthy team hasn’t been known for huge amount of goals, at the core of our performances this season we are a workmanlike team, not saying we didn’t play well, we did but throughout season we haven’t produce enough quality in our play.
Some fans, local media and who ever would argue Milijas hasn’t been fit enough. I don’t buy that argument, I think he has played well and then he’s dropped, already if you look back on the season, we wouldn’t of won at Wigan without Milijas’s set pieces, likewise at Tottenham, wouldn’t of came back against Stoke, no win over Bolton and the Serbian scored the first goal against Burnley and that adds up to 13 points which is massive for us and so we need that kind of talent in the side, but hey Mick would say ‘what do you know’ anyone who loves football can see what’s wrong with Wolves, I wouldn’t know how to coach but its clear to me that Doyle is our only hope if he is getting the service rather him supplying the service.
But with that all a side, the players did me and the all of us proud but at the end of the day it’s not good enough for this league, (take not Bolton away here, and other results like Portsmouth at home, not beating Hull, West Ham and Wigan at home because we were playing Man Utd) its exactly what Tommo on Soccer Saturday was saying, in the current side there’s not enough quality so surely Mick must consider the players I have mention (perhaps Mendez-Liang? or too soon?) A fit again Dave Edwards would be good as well.
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bang on the money……miljas (paul cook in disguise with a lot more talent and class) is one of the best looking players in recent times to grace wolves turf….mm is blind
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A case of so near yet so far .We succumbed to a weak goal as usual .Shame our best chances went to Ward ( an ex forward ! )and Vokes who had just come on the pitch .Once again ,Craddock and Berra looked flimsy despite a weakened United attack . Ward’s overall positioning was dreadful throughout and perhaps upsets the centre backs.Let’s see Vokes up front with Doyle please.We can still stay up but things must change – we are too predictable. Up the Wolves !!
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Once again we concede a dismal goal and miss at the other end.
Has well as DOYLE as played he is not a goalscorer his shooting lacks strength and seems to hardly be on target.
This may sound crazy but what is there to lose by playing SEB instead of doyle and putting doyle elsewhere in the team.
As I beleive it could be just the responsibility that could trigger SEB to score a few as he can finish unlike doyle.
We are at a junction now that we have to gamble as we can stay up we really can.
Its time to be bold and also put WARDS career on hold as he continues to be out of form and I am being kind.
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Totally agree,,and Seb also had a couple of nice confident touches the other night…..Belgian bun gets some good tackles in and spreads the play at time…..and I truly think he should have took Doyle off after the goal….loads of huff and puff and is totally selfish…there have been a number of occasions where a lay off to a player in a better position to score would be the obvious choice…but no….!!!!really frustrating.
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I thought we played well and were unlucky not to at least to get a point. If we can repeat this performance then I reckon we we can pick enough points from our remaining games to stay up.
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The only points we will get are 0-0 draws, because we can’t score goals!
Job done, eh? I guess Moxey is lining up interviews as he can’t possibly survive yet another failure!
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Great effort but lacking any creativity in midfield. Why oh why was SEB brought on in place of Guedioura when Milijas was sitting around on the bench. If I said SEB’s contribution was zero, I would be grossly overstating the case. Can’t blame Sam either he got himself into great positions for two really hot chances. Get him into the team earlier Mr Mcdopey and kick Milijas up the Khyber Pass – I want to see more commitment from him to get into the first team. Can’t blame Ward either – he misses plenty of tackles so what’s wrong with missing plenty of goals: fact is he couldn’t hit an elephant’s ar*e with a barn door.
I’m with WW all the way through AND we will survive.
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I’m sorry can you explain something to me. If you can’t blame Sam Vokes for missing from 3 yards who is to blame? Uri Geller? Was he rubbing a crystal at the time, willing him to miss. There is no excuse for that miss. As for SEB what did he do wrong? Did you think he was going to take on the Man u defence single handed and score to goals. I know on thing,I like Sam Vokes and I hope he goes on to be a great player for us, I wish SEB had that chance instead.
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Like he did in his last 14 games?
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at least Sam got himself in the positions. SEB had every opportunity but had done nothing this season. Not even got himself into positions to be a threat unlike Vokes in the last 10 minutes
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Just enjoy the rest of the season? no chance, I want to go and see my team fight to the death. U win nothing without beliving, do u think sir alex has ever told his team to enjoy the season when they r 10 points behind 1st? U scrap for every second u play to gain every chance u get! I am proud of my team and I believe in the players and think they can win those last 10 games. Enjoy winning, enjoy avoiding relegation and then enjoy another season of premiership football! Come on u wolves!!!!
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Youve enjoyed this season?
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Honestly, what else did you expect, this is our level, if you don’t enjoy this (football is all about ups and downs) then either hope for relegation and the glamour games at Preston or go support Man Utd et al.
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Sure, easy to say we deserved to lose, if to not have any weapons at our disposal, unless you get Doyal more support; we are so close to being a survivor this season, and most would have snatched at one above the drop-zone come early May. That said, we gave as good as we got, and lets face it, sadly, young Vokes had an easier shot to make than to miss, so lets hope he can crawl out from that rock he is under this morning, lacem up again and delved the goods. We cant expect Wolves to give up now, and niether shall I! Roll on you Wolves!
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There is a soccer revolution going on in New Zealand. Today the Wellington Phoenix reached the minor final of the A League. They are managed by Ricky Herbert who also coaches the All Whites who have reached the World Cup finals. Herbert also played for Wolves when they were down in the dumps. Why not give him a try next season as Manager. At least he will play players in their rightful positions. As for Wolves another loss, a glaring miss at the end. Sick of all the excuses. Just not good enough.
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Lots of effort and endeavour but one mistake and we were punished. Difficult to criticise the lads given who we were playing against.
The lack of January signings is now in evidence – would James Beattie have missed that late chance like Vokes??
Must win game next week – has to be back to 4-4-2 Mick.
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Sam Vokes is just a kid learning his trade.Messrs Morgan,Moxey and McCarthy missed that chance.It came in Jan and before that last summer.They fluffed it ,when it was obvious to everybody we needed a quality striker to partner Doyle. Somebody should tell Jez Moxey there is more to running a successful football club than cost control.
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come on chris we all expected seb to make the step up to the premiership but it just hasent happened for him, just think if say he,d scored ten goals for us this season where we,d be in the league. he,s been scoring for fun for the last to seasons so its a mystery why he,s not banged a few in this season.
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Its no mystery! SEBs goals u just dont get in the prem! U dont just out muscle someone in this division, its rare you get a scrappy goal, he has no real quality to speak of, either in movement nor in supply to others in team! So take away his goals and your left with a very very sub standard player that just doesnt cut it in prem! Gr8 championship player though!!
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Not in January we didn’t.We played well yesterday but failed to score.A constant theme.Surely every Wolves if they are being honest,must question the sense of having money in the bank,but inadaquate strikers on the pitch.This is a one in 6 years opportunity,and the great fear is we will blow it again,due to failure in the transfer market.
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What an absolute disaster this season is.
Man U were porr yesterday. Very poor.
I said around 3 weeks ago that McCarthy would stick to this negative 4-5-1 formation no matter what the results , and how right I was.
First let’s start with Foley. He ran his socks off yesterday. He was all over the pitch. Good yes? No, far from it. It’s great being all effort and putting a ‘shift’ in, but you have to have an end product. Foley can’t pass , cant shoot and has not a clue what to do with the ball when he gets it. Unforgiveable moment of the day yesterday was Foley’s pass back to Hanneman from 20 yards inside the Man U half!!!
Secondly, Henry.What a complete and utter waste of time this player is. I believe he is the biggest problem this team has. We play 4 – 5 – 1 to accomodate Henry so he can play infront of the back 4. This means we are punchless upfront. Henry HAS to be dropped so we can go 4-4-2 for the remainder of the season. Let’s go down fighting. This is just plain embarassing now.
Thirdly tactics. Drop Berra and replace with Zubar, Move Foley to right back. Drop Henry, bring back Milijas on the left of midfield and move Jarvis to his natural right. Finally, give the Hoff a chance up front so we can go 4-4-2. Lets go down fighting !
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Can’t you see with out Henry our midfield would be overrun week in week out.
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Here here
At last someone who understands the game.
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what a dimwit you are henry is rubbish no wonder we are in the state we are in. he nis supposed to serve the forward players,he can only pass back.
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Wind your neck in sunshine. Some people see what Henry does, some dont’. He’s a decent player doing a job, never gonna be an all action midfielder but slows the game down when we need to (and frustratingly sometimes when we need the complete opposite). He’s neither the solution or cause of all our problems, Wolves fans just love to pick out one player to scapegoat and 99% of the time they really don’t deserve it.
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Henry is ideal in build but lacks quality. Stop a man? Cannot pass and cannot think quick enough. Will be OK next season when Wolves are in the Championship. How can a player of his ability be captain, he does not exactly fill you with the “up and at ‘em.” spirit. Whilst MM made it again to the Premier,MM does not appear to have the qualities required in the Premiership.I do hope I am wrong but as each game appears on the horizan, there is that feeling of my stomach droping through the floor
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Just watching the match again taped from ESPN.
One of the comment was,”we must remember this is the goalkeeper & back 4 that played most of the season when Man Utd won the premier league & champions league double”
Now I’m as frustrated as anyone that we arn’t scoring enough goals, but that coment alone tells you that our opposition know a thing or 2 about defending.
For me currently we are in the best form of the season & ys last night we definately deserved something from the game & I am convinced we will be OK if we keep playing as we are,the goals will come, because we are creating the chances & our ball retention is so much better than earlier in the season & as such we arn’t aving to work at the ridiculous levels we were earlier.
Can’t believe some people on here are slagging Karl Henry for his performance last night, yet again he was superb, as was Jones, playing against real quality players in their midfield, what do you want from the lad???
The only realistic change that needs to be made is with Foley, for a more attacking player, we may as well give Keogh a go there next week, for what is a must win game & I think we will win 2-1.
KTF
Wolvesforever
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well said grace
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Having a few minutes spare I took Manchester United’s starting 11 and looked them up on Wikipedia. Three of their starting eleven (brown, scholes and gibson) are home grown and free but the transfer fees paid out for the other 8 players added up to 127 million pounds.
I then tried to work out the comparative cost of our own first team and I have a ballpark figure (it’s difficult to be too exact because of Wolves’ way of not disclosing fees) of about 16 million. Five Manchester United players were signed for a fee greater than the total cost of our team (berbatov, Nani, carrick, valencia and ferdinand).
When I think of the uneven nature of this greedy league I am even more proud of the effort and commitment our side displayed. I think many United fans would admit to being fortunate to get all three points last saturday. We were unlucky but luck will change and hopefully for us it will change soon enough for us to save ourselves this season, and
If we do go down I will still be a wolves supporter next season, and I will proud to support a real football club rather than an overhyped Sky driven money making franchise like Man United and their ilk.
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I agree with most said early on in your blog, apart from the Henry bit, IMO take him out the side and teams would cut through us even easier, although i do concede he is a little pointless to say the least going forward! Foley is a good player but like you i think he is a total waste of space in that position, not his fault but he has not got a clue in an attacking role!
I too blogged about the formation, its ok playing this way against the BIG teams but he plays it no matter what the game and who the opposition! with the same players AND makes subs at the same time every game! So anyone could stand on the touchline and do the job as it’s the same week in week out. When have you seen MM change a formation to win a game from a losing position in this league?
There were a couple of decent showings from our players today e.g jarvis, guerdeloa (sorry spelling), Doyle ….. but the fact remains we never look like scoring!
The tactics have to change but i fear they wont, and in my opinion we are doomed! makes me sick to the pit of my stomach when this year the prem is so poor with a decent go at it we could have survived comfortably!
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I agree totaly with your comments, I have said before better to give it real go, how can Mcarthy keep playing Henry, his contribution is zero which is hampering the team. Also he has taken off Jones and the new guy in the last two games, why not Henry when their contribution was so much greater.
As you say give the Hoff ago he cannot do any worse in front of goal.
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Yeah great advise. Change the system when we are playing well. Drop someone, I don’t know who, ahh our captain, Henry, he’ll do. So we can bring on a player up front who has hardly played this season and when he did he didn’t look that great. Thats it sack MM. John spain? will you be our new manager? Pleeeease?
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We may be playing well, but we are not winning or scoring goals so there can only be one result, as for Henry just look at his stats which will reveal all, and he is not captain material.
Hoff may not be the answer but something different is needed, we have tried Blake, Keough, Vokes, so why not someone who we have paid I think 2 million for? As for manager thanks but prefer to stay in Spain.
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SPOT ON JOHN I THINK YOU TALK A LOT OF SENCE I AGREE WITH MOST OF YOUR COMMENTS FELLOW X PAT
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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
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Lets face the facts, there is no way MM will change tactics and position of players. He is old school, what method he believes works, he will stick staunchly to it. The policy with this formation, we score first, and dig deep to defend for the entire match. Opposition score first, then we might as well pack up and go home. we are only in this position, as last, due to other teams inabilities to pick points up either.
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SHOULD HAVE SACKED HIM AT XMAS, TOO LATE
SACK PIGHEADED MM NOW, SEE THE RESULTS CHANGE
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and replace him with who ?!?!?!?
it will take at least 2 weeks to get a new manager that equals 2 weeks of uncertanty, an unsettled team and that will no doubt mean 0 points which will definately leave us in the relegation zone + it will then take time for him to influence the team and decide on his starting line and to settle the team again
so please be a ‘proper fan’ and get behind the team that includes the manager there are still 30 points up grabs and we only need 13 IMO to survive which we WILL DO if you look at our remaining matches !!!
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PATHETIC POSTING! to win we have to score goals. Where are they coming from?
Dream on Baby!
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Can’t Bully be employed to take charge of training for the strikers/midfielders to show them how to put the ball in the onion bag?
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I doubt it.
A quick glance at my encyclopaedia indicates that we are well on course to become the lowest scoring Wolves side EVER (in a single season).
An admirable achievement.
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4-5-1 Will earn us the odd win and a draw which means relegation
4-4-2 Might get battered a few times,but we might also win a few games to keep us up!
I am bored of Doyle being forced to do all his best work outside the box.
Please Mick, wake up and smell the coffee
PLAY 4-4-2 AGAINST BURNLEY
OR AVE I GOT MORE CHANCE WINNING THE LOTTERY!
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We are in the position where the formation has been set by our lack of points.
Still havent had the best?? 11 that many would want on the field however, we have been forced into trying not to lose rather than trying to win.
Taking a couple of chances would help and I believe if we managed that we would win even with the current setup.
Only thing I would change now would be to play Keogh instead of Foley.
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will we ever score not playing like that, how
maney defence player do we need? milijas 20 goals last season plus free kicks not give a
chance what the point of foley? and then muppet bring on 3 forwards in last 10 min total clueless. we did ok but no goals and we
are down must win next week.
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Nobody will be more gutted than sam vokes today but keep your chin up son and just bang the next one in! At least you were in the position. When manure changed it around so should we instead of letting them score then chasing the game.
Not getting a striker in during january will probably be our downfall,hope not but it’s looking that way!
Up the wolves!
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Agreed. If Vokes had been on the pitch for a little bit longer he might have put that chance away. Stubborn MM kept him hanging round on the touchline for 5 mins!
My biggest worry? We somehow fluke staying up and this clueless board extend MM’s contract.
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I agree its has to MMs fault that Vokes a professional striker missed from 5 yards. Everyone with any football knowledge knows you have to be on the pitch for at least 10 mins before you can control the ball and tap it in. Scholes proved it. He was on the pitch for over an hour before casually scoring his goal. My biggest worry would be if the board went on your advise.
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I honestly think that, if we stay up, we’ll sack MM and go for a new manager. Bolton had two rough seasons back in the Prem under Allardyce, but they were scoring goals, so they kept him and flourished. The same simply won’t happen at Wolves, even though I’m a big MM fan.
If we go down, he’ll stay to get us promoted again.
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Suppose we stay up.What happens next season?Thick Mick does not have a tactical brain as we all know so do we have a season the same as this?McCarthy must go and he must take the idiot Moxey with him.They could be the next An and Dec.Mr.Morgan,serious money must be spent both on players and a competent manager,we`ll never gt anywhere with this idiot in charge.
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When our defense does win the ball our tactic is to just hoof it straight up to Doyle which totally by passes our midfield instead of working an attack to get the ball up to Doyle where he can run at people and bring others into play. Jarvis needs to stay closer to the right back as a good ball to him jarvis can beat most players with his pace.we now need to revert back to 4-4-2 as Doyle on his own up front is not gonna win us games we need to start and try to score goals as goals win games. Burnley now is a must win as I can’t see us picking up many other points over the coming games.team for burnley
hanneman goalie
foley rb
craddock berra cb
zubar lb
jarvis left wing
guediora jones cm
keogh right wing
Doyle ebanks centre forward
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is this a wind up ? you want to improve our chance of scoring with ebanks blake?
mick has had to resort to 451 because WE ONLY HAVE ONE STRIKER !!!!!
ONE! UNO! EINS! another bloody disgraceful transfer season saw us not address this.
bloody joke the Wolves board are. The lot of them
No we must play the exact same side against Burnley – I believe one of Gedioura, Jarvis or Doyle will find the net they are looking very lively, and against lesser opposition we may actually snatch a goal.
Heaven help you WWFC board if you put the brakes on another transfer spend for next season.
WE ARE WOLVES.
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Henry? You seriously think that the eagle will drop his captain? Get real.
Chubby Ebanks is just a spare part. Keep the 4-5-1, we should have beaten Utd with it and we will do the business at Burnley.
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MM has to play SEB along side Doyle for longer periods 10minutes is no good to the lad,and i also think somebody like bully needs to be on the training ground with our strikers trying to educate them b4 its to late.
shooting practice is a must,they provably do this but you would not think so when you see them play.
U T W.
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Don’t blame Sam vokes for his late misses. It just shows how FINALLY chances were made when we had strikers in the box. coming on 5 mins from the end didnt give him chance to settle.
As said before. lets go down with a fighting chance and play 4-4-2. Jarvis is a finisher, at the moment he has to litterally pass to himself, cross the ball himself and try to get on the end of his own cross. IMPOSSIBLE ! give the lad a chance to find some space and do what he does best, SCORE !!!
Wake up Mick !!
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i just feel so gutted.it seems whatever we do its the same old story.so could we just PANIC.make us dream!!!!
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Hard luck yet again,i fear the worst if we lose next week.
Not much more to say really.
Just sick of losing week in week out.
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You United boys were rubbish,any half decent premier team would have beaten you.It’s a pity Wolves are not half-decent.
Muppet out.
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We simply have to win now next weekend, no excuses!
For crying out loud Mick please do not play Foley on the right wing! Stick Keogh there and move Foley to full back to replace the out of his depth Ward.
I would stick with 4-5-1 but more attacking.
Team for next week;
Hanehmann, Zubar, Craddock,Berra,Foley,Henry,Guediora,Jones,
Keogh,Doyle,Jarvis
On another point although it was a terrible miss I personally think Vokes is potentially a very good player and although I am by no means his biggest fan I thought Henry played well yesterday but all of the players need to show up next week or we are doomed!
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I don’t think we have the quality in our team at all to stay up. Bolton, Wigan, Sunderland and West Ham all have players that have played lots of games in the Premier League . We have not got the expirience in our team and that is down to Mick . It is his way or the highway , With Favourites like Ward , Keogh and Henry you will never move forward to stay in the Premier League. The Championship they are decent players , but in the Championship Mick is a decent manager . Out of his depth and a real lack of Quality will send us down this season.
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i watched the game on espn until the 92 minute when Vokes missed that sitter then switched off.
I took a day to reflect, and sadly i think were on course to relegation.
the pattern of our season is that weve not taken enough points from the teams around us and have played badly in these games, and played well against those teams above us but got nothing for it. man utd,chelsea,brum, are examples of this.
I’ve come to the conclusion that we were not unlucky yesterday or against Bolton, but we have the worst squad in the prem for shooting and heading on target and scoring goals. We make scoring look impossible.Just look at Vokes and Wards(who used to be a striker) so called efforts!.I dont think you will get any better chances to score than that and we couldnt do it and this put all the good work we did in that game to shame.
MM has a choice he sticks with this formation and team selection and we will go down or change it.
I keep saying why not try playing doyle on the wings, instead of foley and play SEB upfront against burnley, or 4-4-2, miljas or keogh have to play instead of foley, if we want to score and win the game.
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just commenting on a few posts on here.
Vokes is a professional player and should be ready to come on whether its in the 2nd min or 80th minutes.He’s also a striker and knows that the first rule is to hit the target and he didnt.
This is a results business and playing well with one system and team selection but not scoring any goals and taking no points gets you relegated, look at west brom last season.
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The Magic Wanderer – I can see why you are you suckered into believing Karl Henry is a good player. If I knew nothing about football I would probably think the same.
Henry plays as a holding midfielder because our back four is so bad. What Karl Henry does is pick up the ball in front of the back four and then do a sideways or backwards pass.
In this role he does lots of running across the nback and lots of little passes to his teammates.
Okay, so why do so many wolves fans dislike him?
Because, his distribution is so poor for one. He finds a player but thats easy. Anybody could do that. Moving forward with the ball and finding the right player is the tricky part. What I expect of a player is to be able to move forward pick out a pass and then create space so I can get the ball back. Something Henry never or rarely does.
Henry is neither a good ball winner or passer of the ball. Nor does he create space for himself or get forward to support the attack.
Mick needs to sort out the back four, then we wouldnt need a holding player.
Its obvious to most that Zubar ought to be given a chance at centre half and Berra should be dropped too. Put Foley back at right back where he plays well and drop Ward for Mancienne. You then have power and pace at the back.
You can then drop Henry and bring in a creative player like Milijas. Move a natural right winger in the form of Jarvis to the right and bring on a Hoff. At least he’s scored!! Give the bloke a chance!
The reason Henry plays is the
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have to agree with your comments, the Magic Wanderer dosen’t see the same game as most of us. Henry is a serious problem for us.
As much as I like the effort put in by Ward, this season we have been most exposed by his lack of tackling and positional play against anyone against him on the right.
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I agree with what you say about henry going back or sideways to often. That can be said about a’lot of wolves players this season how many times do you see the ball going back to hahnemann. I would much rather keep the ball though than play it forward when a pass isn’t really on. As for dropping henry for a creative player in Milijas. We have Jones and Guediora who are both creative and have both played better than Milijas so far this season. I was surprised when MM dropped Milijas for Jones but Jones has proved him right. I totally agree with what you say about Henry playing as a holding midfielder because our back for isn’t the best. No matter who plays in what position, from the defenders we have at the moment, we would never be that solid in the prem. So a holding midfielder is needed. Henry does a good job at it, so why do so many fans dislike him? I don’t think they do. He’s proved to be better than Olofinjana. where’s he now and he cost us 2.5 mil. Have we got someone who can do it better? let me guess Castillo?
I can’t see ward playing at Burnley after last night. MM constantly tried to get him to close down Valencia sooner and he didn’t. Valencia had all the time in the world to pick a pass every time he got the ball. Foley in for Ward and Keogh on the right. 2-0 to wolves. UTW.
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Sitting here watching Everton Demolish Hull(currently 5-1).With 59 conceded already this season I think Hull will join Pompey in going down.That leaves Burnley,Wolves,Wigan, West-ham and Sunderland to fall into the last place.
Fortunately for us Burnley’s away form looks like being their nemesis.
MM will not drop Ward and will not change his ways,irrespective of differential opinions of MM his record in the Premiership makes very poor reading—played 56 won 8 drawn 10 lost 38.Thats 34 points from a possible 168.
Big game Saturday lets hope for the vital win we all crave.
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Wolves are among six other clubs facing relegation and the sad fact is that Wolves are a better unit than any of the bottom six teams in the Premiership.
Wolves will be one of the teams that will be relegated because we can’t score goals with one forward, who, while he tries hard all day, spends far too much time either complaining to the Ref, or on his ‘arse’ he seems to constantly fall over.
We have little to lose, so next week I would drop Doyle to the bench, and totally change the foremat against Burnley…I would play 4/3/3 with Guediora jarvis Edwards ( if available)Keogh & Volkes , and start Milijas in the side.
I would not have Ebanks in the squad, and drop Craddock or Berra for Milijas
Why not…we have nothing to lose other than to score goals !!!!!!!
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totally agree…Doyle has his good points but also plays with his head down and does not look for any other option other than shooting himself. We need to mix it up….Milijas,Belgian Bun and give Volkes a shot for 45mins.
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Anyone at the game who says Wolves didnt play well is deluded.
We had the better of the first half with certainly the best chance. We should have scored in injury time to get a draw against the Champions.
The only downside to yesterday was the missed chances of which the late one you would have expected your striker to score from as a manager.
Well done on your tactics yesterday Mick, if only we had a striker with an ounce of quality we would not have lost that game. Vokes miss really was a howler and unfortunately we keep playing well and missing the target which is a problem but to blame Micks tactics like some of you are is stupid as we are creating chances and just lack the quality to finish them off.
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A striker cannot operate as a lone Wolf, they need support from the midfield.
We are totally disjointed, even SEB can’t score without midfield support, so he is redundant until the team problems are put right, which of course they won’t be with this manager.
If Morgan won’t sack McCarthy then that is it, we are doomed to go down again! A new manager might be able to reshape and shake up enough to give us a new life.
Job done, eh?
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If that big nosed muppet plays again this season at left back i will personally lead an official protest outside the ground for the removal of the circus we have in charge of the team. Absolute DISGRACE.
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There comes a point when it is futile to talk about our workrate, honest hard work, “work your socks off” etc. The fact is our season will come down to our lack of goalscoring – our record in that regard is appalling.
When we went a goal down was the time to IMMEDIATELY make changes. Milijas and Vokes should have been brought on straight away as there was plenty of time remaining.
Hopefully, Everton will take care of Hull today to give us one more chance to get this sorted out. Our tactics are becoming obvious to everyone we play – MM has to make changes to give the players a mental break, keep our opponents guessing and to try and generate more goals. Gambling that we will stay up based on goal differential is a dangerous game.
COME ON YOU WOLVES!!!
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Staying up in early hours of the morning here in Shanghai, I thought we were set to deliver an upset. When Ward’s header went goalwards I let of such a loud shout that my wife came into the living room thinking I was having a heart attack. I have been having one all season. The near misses, the kicks off the line, off the woodwork, followed by those moments of madness when we gift a goal away.
Mick Mcarthy is not to blame so lets stop for once and all getting at Mick, and instead get behind the man.
The lads are giving it their all and more.
We are set for change in our luck and we shall stay up.
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You make your own luck and the two misses were not bad luck thet were LACK OF QUALITY!!
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Not a single fact to back up your assertion. Just wishful thinking overtaking reason.
Oh, how I wish you were right, but unfortunately you are wrong and we are on our way back down again.
Once again the Wolves management have failed us!
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Above the drop zone and stretched Man U to breaking…. after the heartbreak you have to be positive. Another plus is another unchanged side. Lady luck will smile again soon and a side performing so well will get their just rewards.
Ade A. had a phenomenal 60 Minutes like a rabid shark snapping at anything in red. 30 minutes more please!
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Just looking at some stats on other sites. We all rave about Doyle been a top striker ( I think he is by far our best player easily ), but look at Burnley next week they have Fletcher who has 11 goals for them. I just hope we play Keogh next week with Doyle as he is going to be run into the ground up front on his own.
Also Ward needs to be dropped any decent manager/scout would say attack down Wolves left as Ward is weak defensively. Not many players get past Zubar because he is solid Ward I am afraid is weak defensively.
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For two seasons the sensible fans on this group have pressed for Ward to be replaces, but Mick just won’t!
It has been our weakness and shows how unprofessional McCarthy really is, allowing favouritism to overcome football logic. I couldn’t see Ferguson allowing personal loyalty to override the good of the team.
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Why does MM keepon saying Doyle will be gone if we go down, did Doyle only sign a 1yr contract ? i thought he signedd a 3yr deal. I said before on here that when he was at Reading they got relegated but he didnt leave them he stayed and score about 20 goals before signing for us. So why would he leave us he owes us another season at least, then if we dont come come straight back up then let him go. When Reading were in the Premier League he scored about 13 goals, so if he’s that good why’s he only got 5 goals for us ? was it they had better players ? used a better system ? or just had a better manager ?. Plus whatever happened to ‘ LOYALTY’ in footballers Bully scored for fun but ‘NEVER’ once did he ask to leave or desert a sinking ship, if KD wants to leave like Henry Camara did let him go this club will still survive with him or without him i agree with an earlier comment id give SEB anothe r go and play doyle on the right and Jarvis left in a 4.3.3 which you can easily make into a 4.5.1 systems are just numbers i think actually think SEB is a better goalscorer than KD. but i ive also said many times that Ward stands far to far away from his winger and he got a roasting again last night, but more worrying was his distribution i counted at least 6 times he passed the ball straight to a man utd player i think id give Mancienne who’s a natural defender a go at Left back or put Foley/Stearman there. But its so frustrating as again we played well yet like the Bolton game 1 mistake and its a goal, yet the ohter team make a mistake and we miss the target, if Wolves didnt have bad luck they’d have No luck.I just hope n pray we get a break and for a change play CRAP AND WIN ONE. and finally will the Wolves players stop going on about how they beat Tottenham 5 players have now spoken in the media about its long gone get over it lets hear about wins over Burnley,Villa,WHU,Everton,etc ,im fed up of playing well and losing lets play a few crap games and win 1-0 2-0 2-1 ”Sorry folks” im just having a sxxt day UTW i will still be there next season and the next season until i die whatever league we are in unlike some of these players who kiss the badge mmmmmmm
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Wolves don’t want that much money tied up in a player or his wages when we drop back into the Championship. That’s why they are setting the scene for Doyle’s departure, just getting us used to the idea.
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Still annoyed after last night but Everton have just made me feel a bit better. We aren’t scoring goals but we are not letting in four goals plus anymore. We shouldn’t have to rely on other team to keep us up but right now I don’t care how we stay up as long as we do. UTW.
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Being 7 hours ahead of UK and staying up week in week out to watch and hope Wolves score a goal is a serious strain on the marrage (I’m told)!
Like Shanghai Wolves, I too let out premature screams when Wardy got his head on the ball and Vokes had an open goal. It all goes with the screams let out when we hit the woodwork (aluminium?) 3 times against Bolton.
Don’t blame the management. There are few ‘good’ players willing to risk being transfered in to a relegation hotpot during the January window.
And as for chasing that fuzzy haired pillock from Hull with 5 million quid!!!???!!? Full of effort, aggression and little skill. He would fit in quite well then wouldn’t he (Doyle & Jarvis apart).
Stefan Maierhofer was a mistake, so was Geoffrey Mujangi Bia(lightweight).
I like Segundo Castillo, and Adlene Guedioura reminds me of a young Mike Bailey – when he was with Charlton, just before Wolves bought him, tremendous potential.
Just don’t talk to me about Matthew Hill, Greg Halford or Andrew Surman or I WILL go off one one!!
I do like Nenad Milijas, but he is a ‘Luxury’ player and we can’t afford that at present.
All is not lost, I saw the Arsenal/Burnley match and Wolves are MILES better than Burnley, but we shall soon see, wont we>
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proud to be a wolves fan yesterday, as i have been on many occasions. it was always going to be a challenge, but we are fighting. some mistakes with the signings, but also some signings and players who were already on the books who are really performing. the team will be even stronger next year, wherever we are!!! the futures bright, the futures orangey old gold!
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What is with all the negativity? The league table doesnt lie, we havent scored enough goals. But, if the season ends like this, we have survived. Hull are awful and Burnley arent much better. Neither side can do anything away from home, and we have a far better goal difference. The lack of goals is frustrating, but we werent going to score half of the 80+ we managed last season.
People need to be realistic. Portsmouth spent massive amounts, overspent way above their budget and won the FA Cup. Now they are in Administration and lucky to have a club. Newcastle paid the price financially making bad mistakes by being relegated. Leeds United spent millions and millions, and look where they ended up. Southampton were an established top flight club at the start of the last decade, and again, they are a debt ridden League One side. Financially we havent spent big money, and that will give us long term stability. If you arent sensible financially, there is a real danger five years down the line you could be in the position Leeds and Southampton are in. As much as people want to criticise him, that will NEVER happen to us whilst Moxey is here.
In the last two home games, Chelsea and Man United have came here, and havent outclassed us as at all. We have created several good chances against both sides, and sadly we couldnt take any of them. At the end of the season, we can look at the top six, and say at home we have outplayed Chelsea, Man United, Liverpool and Spurs. Not an easy thing to do.
We are making things hard for ourselves, but as Wolves fans, would we have it any other way? No. If we do survive, we need a full back, a centre half, and a winger who can cut it at this level. Sadly, the likes of Ward, Jarvis and Foley are not good enough at this level.
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great post tipton
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Hey!!! Jarvis not good enough???????? What matches do you look at? If you listen to the french commentators of Canal+ (they are very soccer knowledgeable persons), they have very good appreciation of Matt Jarvis although they think he is too shy. “Does not play to his full potential” they say. They consider him as our revelation this season and I fully agree with them.
Hope you will be more positive next time.
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Well said but I wouldn’t give up on Foley and Jarvis.
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I agree with Tipton’s post except for this point. Jarvis and Foley are not weak links and look up to the standard of this league (although how nice would it be to see Foley where we think he is best at fullback).
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I think it is time to say goodbye to mick
because hes system his so boring to watch its like watching paint dry. Anyway why is it keogh gets straight back in ahead of Maiehofer its a joke super mick is all irish
i think it is time to bring in Stev e coppell
if we am to suvive now.Also i feel henry his a joke as captain he only knows one way of playing and thats back in our own half which is dangerous and rubbish,
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Whilst it was a good effort by the lads we still didn’t get anything from the game luck certainly isn’t on our side at the moment but that tends to happen to teams fighting for Premiership survival.
I was always told that the best form of defence is attack and let’s face it if you don’t score goals you don’t win its that simple.MM has really got to start changing our formation to a more attacking one having a sole forward is NOT going to win us games look at the game against Bolton we should have really played with two strikers I am sure we would have got all three points.We are quickly running out of games of which to pick up points necessary to get away from the relegation zone but the negative tactics being used by MM is not working how many more times do we the fans have to state this you only have to look at the ladder to see the end result of MM’s negativity. We really have got to go to Burnley with a more attacking attitude and secure a vital win, success brings confidence lets hope the lads deliver next week.
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Mick I think our luck has changed. Everton smashed Hull City 5-1, Arsenal beat Burnley 3-1 & good old Notlob dragged West Ham back into the relegation nightmare. We have failed to score again & missing from 5 or 6 yards is criminal. But hey as long as Hull & Burnley lose when we do they will always remain below us. Can we win at Burnley this week, we have to believe we can as there is no use us going there. Pompey need to beat Hull then have 9 points taken from them. All this is in our own destiny. Need to turn good performances into good results. Come on Wolves
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Win is a must at Burnley. Need to go 4 4 2.
Nuff said
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Send voakes back to cherries how can a so called c/f miss a chance like that,if we dont win 2 out of the next 3 say bye to prem.
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Wish everyone would stop saying mick should go now. He is staying until the end of the season whether you want him to or not and changing the manager now with 10 games left is suicide.
concentrate on supporting your team FFS!
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It was suicide to keep him in the first place.noway is this team staying up,forgot last time we scored,10 goals at home this season its a joke.
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whether it was suicide or not, there is nothing to gain from sacking him now.
Did you expect us to score lots of goals? Did you know SEB wasnt going to cut it?
Did you know our most creative player responsible for assists (Kightly) was going to be injured or never fully fit when he did play?
We are where we are, sacking a manager now and having 2 week to get in a new man, and 5 weeks before they settle and drill the team. There’s no benifit for it.
Teams around us as struggling, and they have dire problems too.
I dont care if we are the best of a bad bunch, and your lack of faith is not going to help. Everyone of us needs to get behind the lads at least, even if you dont like the manager
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Cookley I agree
Its do or die time really now this seasons destiny is well and truly in Wolves hands.
With the league as it is this year I see 33 points and a reasonable goal difference as being safe.
We have created far more chances in the last few games than earlier in the season, the problem being that it seems they are falling to the wrong people Ward Vokes Foley etc etc.
Doyle our only performing class striker who I believe would have scored at least one of the sitters against Man Utd, is being forced to hold up the ball, go out to the wings to collect and basically make his own chances.
I dont think it matters who we play now everygame has to be played as if a win is a must, and for that Doyle needs an extra pair of legs up front.
How about 3 at the back, with Foley and Zubar acting as Full backs in Midfield, Jones French G and Mijas in centre Midfiled and Doyle and Keogh up front
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Why not craddock up front he is our 2nd top scorer.
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To be honest none of the other forwards have shown any clinical finishing albeit none have been given a true chance.
It does amaze me for team that is set up to accomodate wide wingers we dont have any ariel threat up front!!!!
Also why is it that Jarvis plays on the left and not the right as he cant cross with his left foot, always cuts in to shoot and cross on his right??
How about French G up front he would make a nuisance of himself and can certainly hit it with either foot??
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I’ve read all these post on here and in summary I think the only thing we should do for the Burnley game is swap Foley for Ward and put Keogh at right wing. Personally i think it will add the strength we need at the at the back and the ability to hold the ball, run at the defense and get the right crosses in upfront.
The sack mick brigade need to realise he is not gonig anywhere with 10 games left – support your team.
The ‘we’re already relegated’ mongers need to support their team. We might not be scoring but Hull and Burnley are not any better than us. West Ham and Bolton etc are up for debate
An to the blame mongers bemoaning the lack of goals…has 4-5-1 really been a bad thing. I dont remember a thumping from Tottenham, Chelsea or Man Utd playing it, and we have been more creative even if this hasnt yield goals at the momemnt.
and Finally… to everyone blaming mccarthy for the lack of goals. Is there any one Wolves fan out there that didnt think SEB would step up to the plate this year. Who didnt think that with him and Doyle we would be sorted up front. We were all excited about it. Was McCarthy expected to have a crystal Ball and know he was going to struggle like eh has?
See you all at Burnley
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Finally… to everyone blaming mccarthy for the lack of goals. Is there any one Wolves fan out there that didnt think SEB would step up to the plate this year. Who didnt think that with him and Doyle we would be sorted up front. We were all excited about it. Was McCarthy expected to have a crystal Ball and know he was going to struggle like eh has?.
Dave Mick had ample time between the start of
the season and the closure of the January window to sign a decent striker.He signed 11 players for this season and only 3 have made the grade.As manager of Sunderland he signed 12 players and got relegated.As i pointed out in a previous post look at his record as a Premier manager 34 points from a possible 168.Burnley play Stoke on Tuesday at home and we follow Saturday.If Burnley win tomorrow we go into the bottom 3 and only a win would bring us back out on Saturday.Massive game and one that we need to approach with more than just 4-5-1.
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fair points but right now there is no point bemoaning mick. do it after the last game of the season.
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So annoyed, very annoyed and angry.
YET again we concede a goal from our left back area…has Valencia been diagnosed with Swine flu maybe thats why Wardy stood 10 yards off him all match OR maybe just maybe Wardy IS NOT a left back and is a complete liability.
Goal after goal after goal we concede either eminates from our left back area or is a direct result of Wards ineptitude (Wigan, Blues, Chelsea, Man U, Liverpool away etc etc etc.) Other managers are playing on this blindingly obvious weak link.
YET, our very own tactical genius cannot see this or worse refuses to see it.
This problem would have been sorted over 12 months ago by any half decent manager and could be (WILL BE, IMO) the single biggest reason that we go down. I believe we would be in the region of 4 – 6 points better off if we’d had signed a reasonable, solid left back.
Mind you, we would/should be at least 10 points better off if Mad Mick didn’t take until February to stumble accross a settled team/formation especially after the favourable early fixtures….instead our out of depth manager ‘experimented’ early on instead of hitting the ground running.
I know many of you will berate these views and say ‘look at the table’ and ‘we’re playing well’….but it annoys me, ANGERS me when we should/could/would be so much better off…imagine how many more points and how higher up the table we’d be if we didn’t have a dipstick in charge.
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I was embarressed at the chants to Gary Neville. Have I missed something? What has he done in the past to upset Wolves fans? In any event the chants were very personal and obviously made by complete thickos!He will be thinking Karma!
Concentrate on supporting the team which for most of the game was the best vocal support for many games.
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Embarrassed..apologies for the typo!
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Why does MM persist with Foley , hes a grafter sure but no end product …its a waste of a position. Surely Jarvis on the right with Milijas on the left ( replacing Foley ) would be a better option. Milijas can score , has a good shot & good from set pieces corners & free kicks whereas all Foley gives us is he puts a shift in.Our current fortune cannot be just down to bad luck as they say you make your own luck & its ultimately lack of ability . Better players would have scored at Bolton last week & 9/10 players would have converted Vokes chance who I dont blame as he was only on the pitch 2 mins.
Not sure what I would rather the daily/weekly suffering struggling in the Premier League or scoring goals /winning games in the Championship .Look at Pompey if they get to a FA Cup final , lose 9 points & get relegated they will have had a more successful year than Wolves !at least they will have had a day out at FA Cup semi final & wembley.
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I agree sure whilst Khitley was fit last year Jarvis on the left was the sensible thing.
But this year with kits out why doesnt he play right side, he naturally crosses and shoots with his right. His crosses with the left are generally awful.
Put Manicienne or Foley at LB and play either Jones or Milijas in front. Jones would provide better cover against better wingers who seem to have been let to run amok on our frail LB position.
Milijas would be involved less but may create more, either way at least it would open up oppoents back four and create some space for Doyle and one other.
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at last the voice of reason and calm, when everybody around you is getting thier collective knickers in a twist, wwfc under the leadership of mick mcarthy will comfortably stay up and will invest heavily in the summer the current team will be unrecognisable at kick off in august in the new premier 2010/11 season.
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Sam Vokes did not miss the chance to save the game, it was Steve Morgan who missed.
Sam (bless him) should not have been in the team in the first place.
Nothing against Sam he seems a nice lad but way way out of his depth in the premership and thats down to Steve Morgan.
The same goes for Joddy Craddock great player in his day but again should not have been in the team on Saturday, it was Steve Morgan who slipped to give Scholes the chance not Joddy.
Lets all stop blaming the players and Mick lets look at Steve Morgan and ask him where are our premership players ?????
If you cant do it look around for someone who can like all the other clubs who deserve sucsess.
We will give you £20 back thats double your investment.
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I have not been in the Hatherton in years ,but I remember it well from the 4th Division days.All the singing outside in the sun before the Aldershot playoff.But Hatherton Wolves I think we need to be mindful that we could do a lot worse than Steve Morgan.If Marks and Spencer perform badly because they have the wrong products in the shop,it is the Chief Executive who takes the responsibility,and that is where the problem is at Wolves.
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sorry, but Steve Morgan has stumped up near on £20 million for Mick to spend.
Of that £20m, only £8m regularily get games, the rest either sit on the bench or don’t even make the squad.
I totally blame McCarthy for his (mostly)wasteful signings.
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As I have said on here before,do you really think McCarthy wanted to sign Surman last summer in stead of Hunt.We know he also wanted Dann and Johnson.Time and again he did not get his first choice. It is true that many of his signings whether they they were second or third choices have not been up to the mark and he must take responsibility for this.But the real responsibility rests with the man who negotiates the deals and sets the budget parameters.
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Very sad but a fact, neither the Manager, Coaches or Players know How To Win in this league. Watching scouts go back and report on the predictability, the only threat being our work rate and effort.
When I first started supporting Wolves in 1948 my Grandad used to take the Mickey by saying he could pick eleven off his shirt to beat ‘em. Well, Mick my shirt is quite clean now but the old joke really applies to your lot.
For goodness sake, change it, mix it up, go to Burnley with a few surprises, do a Stan Cullis and go after ‘em, if you have the slightest tactical nouse…. ——- use it !
OR would you like me to pop down to Compton and do it for you, I have every confidence in my ability and at least I’m positive.
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I feel sorry for the team after another great effort but I am fed up with the clubs lacklustre attitude. If we can’t match the efforts of a club like Stoke its a poor day! We are surely a bigger outfit then them but at the moment they seem on the way up while we continue in the wrong direction. Talking of direction I would like Mr. Morgan’s thoughts on all this.
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What Stoke have is HEART, all the way down from the Chairman and Manager, to the players and supporters. They all believe and are passionate about the club.
I really admire the way their Chairman gets involved, writing on 606, going live and defending Shawcross. He never backs away from an interview or is afraid to put his thoughts across. It is a winning formula.
Contrast that with Our Great Club, far too many people in control, in top jobs who are frankly Football SNOBS! living off the efforts and tradition of those long gone hero’s we all loved so much. Poseur’s who have no more connection with supporters and the paying public than they have with Father Christmas. Thats the difference between Us and Stoke.
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To everyone on here who are saying that McCarthy is not at fault for our lack of goals are wrong I’m afraid.
This is the same manager who persists with Foley on the right wing and failed to bring in a striker in January when he must have realised by then that Ebanks Blake wasn’t up to it in the Prem.He has also never given Maierhofer a chance who he spent £2 million on.
I am quite sure if we still persist with the 4-5-1 that if we play either Keogh or Milijas in place of fully we will have a much better and increased goal threat as Foley does not have the attacking instincts of Keogh or Milijas.
If McCarthy starts with Foley on the right wing at Burnley he only has himself to blame. We need to attack teams now and score goals. If we don’t score goals we wont stay up and we won’t beat Burnley next week if we are not positive. Over to you McCarthy there can be no excuses at Burnley.We must win!
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Great weekend for Wolves, only one goal conceded and Hull shipped 5. Goal differenece will decide who goes down and we are best placed when you look at Burnley or Hull. A 1-0 defaet against the best team in Europe is pretty damn good. Now for Burnley, this is the one we have to win like no other, win it and we as good as safe. Well done lads, keep it up and the rewards will come. 442 for Burnley please.
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Bolton, Sunderland and West Ham are all in the mix and they have much better goal averages than us. Also, Portsmouth have a game in hand and and better average AND they may not have to suffer the point deduction. The administrator is saying that it may not happen and if not, then my money is on them finishing above us….2-0 against the Blues !! fantastic result, cup or not.
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I think this system 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 suits us. However for it to really work we need something happening down the right. We saw Doyle burst down the middle on a number of occasions only for the move to break down because Jarvis, on the left, was his only passing option. Foley is always back on the half way line. This makes it easier to defend but also, as Jarvis is right footed, he will never take the shot on. Instead he stops, comes inside and the chance has gone. Jarvis has to play on the right and I suggest Ward should play on the left. He is fast, committed and, most of all, an attacking player by trade.
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Ward for gods sake is not a prem footballer can you not see it, or do not go to games.
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Who else do we have to play the attacking wide left role? Jones? Milijas? No, they’re central midfielders. Keogh? No pace.
Stephen Ward is a left footed forward/winger who was asked to fill in at left back last season and he did OK. He doesn’t know the position – he’s still learning. In the Premiership, he’s been found out.
Oh, and by the way, I’ve hardly missed a home game since 1968 and have been a season ticket holder for over 30 years.
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That was gutting saturday, can’t believe we left with nothing!
Feel sorry for Vokes but I have to say as soon as he came on, he had vidic and ferdinand panicking, they struggled to cope with him in the air, I reckon we should start with him and doyle up front against Burnley and attack them, if he gets a chance on Saturday he’ll bury it like he did every time last season!
Hoping that Mick has realised that we need Foley at left back cus Ward is struggling recently and Foley is much better at full back but Zubar is playing excellently.
Think we should go 4-3-3, marcus; zubar, craddock, berra, foley; henry, guedioura, jones; jarvis, vokes, doyle.
Up the Wolves!
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Sammy Vokes
Lets all support this lad, great cracking young player.
WE ARE WOLVES!!!
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The latest news is that the Great Mox is going to save a few bob next season by not buying any new Nets, he says they are a total waste of money as we never use them. He also agree’s with FIFA that goal line technology is a waste of money as he doubts if we would used it once in ten years. He says he may board up the goal posts to prevent a draft but to be fair to opposing terms he will have a bucket of paint next to the post so that their strikers can dip the ball to leave a imprint on the boards, they’ll have plenty of time to do that.
Jeeeez, it’s getting serious !!
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Watching the game yesterday there was a decision which even now, I just cant understand. We put Vokes on and took off Jarvis. Any reasoning for that because who is going to put the crosses in???
Henry as defence minded as he is totally hopeless going forward. We need players who are offensive but in the same 4-5-1 formation. As much as I like Foley he will not get us goals.
Worst goalsscorers in the league and fans think we are going to stay up. Hmmmm cloud cuckoo land!
10 games left, we need 5 wins END OF!
MICK SORT IT OUT! Stop playing Foley, I dont mind if that Bia played instead at least he is an offensive player.
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I am so glad that express and star commenters do not run Wolves football club. I have seen MM improve the squad slowly over the last four years. It is not easy for any team in the prem. We have improved from last season but it may not be enough to keep us up. So be it. Stop expecting miracles and get behind the team. Oh yes, and the last I heard there were only 19 other teams in the prem. The goals scored by the other 72 have no bearing on how good/ bad a team wolves are.
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Maltawolf you are a complete cretin – we tried to get Keane – but he wanted to go to Celtic the team he supported has a lad – just like he supported Liverpool! “fans” gobbing off from afar, you can’t see everything going on in a match just by watching TV?
Doyle is a great player make no mistake – but how many times have we seen him getting into the box to even “miss” like vokes, very far and few between, we need a striker who is going to put his head on the line not one who runs around all day,Scholes got his goal because he was in the “box”.
If you can’t say anything constructive don’t bother, but keep watching on the box because they need your money.
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Johnwolf–Read your OWN COMMENTS and tell me how constructive they are? Dont see me slagging Doyle off for not scoring enough Idiot.
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March 6, 2010 at 10:15 pm
Vokes missed a sitter, doyle £6.5 million striker who couldn’t strike a match – say’s it all really.
More constructive comments.Yep says it all doesn’t it
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you lot make me laugh one week it’s majic mick next sack the idiot, yes you need to score goals to win games,yes you need to partner doyle up front but there are a least 3 or more teams around you that are worse than you,pompey are doomed after the points deduction,burnley,wigan, hull,maybe bolton and west ham, my money’s on pompey,hull + burnley to go down with your lot 17th,hopefully we can get up looking forward too 2 preimer league black country derby’s.
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These players such as Vokes get paid very well and obviously they will never make the grade.Each week its the same story that we will still stay up – its not going to happen.Three things define the season letting Hennesey start too many games,persevering with Berra and letting too many poor players have a game.
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from page 117 of the Mick McCarthy book of tactics……
“During the last 10 minutes of a game I am again in desperate need of a goal, so i’ll take off my quality,forward surging midfielder who actually possesses a shot and leave on my defensive sideways no goal threat all season Captain and push him up a bit.”
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oh its sam vokes who missed a sitter,did you see how many they missed (man u)we could have been 4 down before vokes missed.
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I do think the level of negativity here is uncalled for. Wolves played really well , as they have done over the last few games. We had more spirit than Man U and completely disrupted their style in the first half. If we weren’t creating chances, I’d be more sympathetic towards the moaners…but we are , as well as playing exciting football. Also, look at Bolton..no goals for about 550 minutes then they win 2 in a row ..things can turn as quickly as that. If we keep playing well, it WILL happen.
I had been one of those calling for Foley to revert to full back in place of Zubar, but the latter had a cracker against Man U and Nani. What I’d like to see now is a forward/ midfielder replacing Foley……..Keogh or Edwards probably.
Turf ‘em out at Turf Moor!
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Well said 92!
If we can dish out the same against Burnley we WILL create more chances and thus have more chance to score.
Doyle needs to be hovering around the oppositions box, not running back to create his own chances – I think against a weaker defence Jarvis and Gedioura will not only create more for Kevin, but I fancy one of them to nick a goal.
COME ON YOU WOLVES !!!
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Wigan 1 Liverpool 0. another nail in the coffin.
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The one thing that could sink us is Micks stubbourness to play his favourites ie Stephen Ward who is probaly the most inefective LB I have seen at the Moll,SEB who needs to go out on loan when he plays its like playing with ten men,Berra who makes mistake after mistake and looks slow and clumsy.
If he played Mancieanne at LB Foley at RB and Zubar as a replacement for Berra we would be more balanced at the back.Play Ward on the left wing and Jarvis on the right and it looks more balanced in attack.
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Baggies Supporter.
Such gloom and doom…..Wolves will quite clearly stay up because they have 3 poorer teams below them(ok Portmouth are victims of mis-management) and despite the obvious goalscoring deficiences, they’ll pinch the odd goal or two to inch to safety…..I just wish the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal & Chelsea had been on the wain when the Baggies were in the top division……………
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So Mick reckons 12 points will be enough, by my calculations that means at least 2 wins, a minimum of 2 goals then , where the heck from. Come on Mick we need players who can make things happen, ie Miljas,Keogh,Vokes from the start, jetison Ward,Berra,now and play the best players in their best positions and go for wins not safety first lets at least go down with guns blazing……
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