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Wolves 0 Liverpool 0
Tuesday 26th January 2010, 9:50PM GMT.
Hardworking Wolves ground out a precious and hugely deserved point against Liverpool at Molineux.
Goalmouth action was thin on the ground throughout as defences dominated.
But Wolves, who were slightly the better side in the second-half, will be relieved to have stopped the rot after three successive Premier League defeats, having earned a fourth top-flight clean sheet.
It was also the club’s first point against one of ‘the big four’ in four attempts this season.
Boss Mick McCarthy promised a change in approach and that’s exactly what happened, as the formation switched to 4-5-1 with recalled striker Kevin Doyle on his own up front and Sylvan Ebanks-Blake out of the squad altogether.
The impressive Jody Craddock blocked Liverpool striker Dirk Kuyt’s drive but Doyle had the only real chance of the first-half, when his deflected poke off Emiliano Insua on 33 minutes for what should have been a Wolves corner.
Kevin Foley then should have done better in heading straight at goalkeeper Pepe Reina at the far post from a Matt Jarvis cross.
McCarthy was understandably apoplectic with rage as play was stopped with his side in full flow, to allow treatment to Liverpool’s Maxi Rodriguez on the halfway line.
The game opened up after the break and Albert Riera’s hooked shot brought a flying leap from Marcus Hahnemann in the home goal.
But Wolves looked the more likely scorers, with Doyle the main threat.
The club record £6.5million signing lashed narrowly over as the Reds defence backed off on 57, before heading Ronald Zubar’s cross straight at the goalkeeper a minute later.
Reina then bravely smothered at Foley’s feet and was briefly injured in the process.
While neither side created anything clear-cut, Wolves continued to look bright and Doyle drove into the side-netting on the angle.
The crowd were on their feet in the 73rd minute – but only to signal their anger at Martin Skrtel’s late lunge on Christophe Berra which brought the Liverpool defender a deserved booking.
Doyle then won a free kick 25 yards out after going down under a challenge from Sotiros Kyrgiakos, but Wolves substitute David Jones curled his effort into the wall.
There was a late debut for new signing Adlene Guedioura, who replaced the busy Matt Jarvis with a minute left as the home side kept things solid at the back.
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Great point lads, but at one point we had 4 defensive midfielders on…..
And why take off Milijas?? He was linking great with Doyle and his replacement Jones ran round like a headless chicken and kept giving the ball away!!!!
Enough of my moaning though and once again well done Wolves!!!!
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Yeah but let us ask the question, why Milijas, wasn´t he likely to won the game with a screamer? These changes don´t figure. It drives me nuts. Someone please, name of McCarthy, tell me why.
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Why take off Milijas, will someone explain?
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Because he was awful, thats why especially in the first half, the ball was in the air alot, far too often in my opinion, but he was completely out of the game, I don’t think he touched the ball in the first 30 mins.
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…which proves that we all see it differently.
I thought Milijas was excellent. He was distributing well as usual, but he was tackling back and sprinting all over the place. By the time Mick took him off, he looked knackered.
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GRACE you are right he was not in tne game until half time then he ran out of steam thats why he had to go off, he is not fit enough to play 90 mins. HENRY is still a problem!
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Disagree. Jones is a great player and makes a difference to the team. Excellent passer and uses the ball well.
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Sid, Looked like MM set the side up to get a draw. Whether that was the right objective is up for debate – but he got the draw.
Milijas was quite impressive for me and not for the expected reason perhaps.
First, he was getting stuck in with some excellent challenges. Second he was actually making some good headed flick ons.
It was clear to me that Milijas was starting to struggle (again) so I wasnt surprised to see him go off.
Maybe Jarvo shoulf have gone off a little earlier giving way to the new lad who I reckon would have tormented old man carragher. The scouser was really struggling all night at right back.
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When I say new lad – I mean geoffrey – who by all accounts (ok youtube) has some pace on him
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too right…..milijas is our best player with doyle i feel…..if we go down i hope he stays…reminds me of a busier paul cook, and better
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Grey Wolf
Yes mate we all see the game in different ways, I just thought he was way off the pace of the game in the first half an hour & didn’t get close enough to the ball.
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Grey Wolf why have you changed your name?There is nothing wrong with Brereton,surely.
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Excellent point, unfortunatley missed the match, however will watch it throught the night.
A point against a “top 5 team” and a win on Sat against Hull will be a good week me thinks!
P.S. Sign a few more players with Premier Experience Please.
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Great result boys and Mick.
Lets wipe the park with Hull.
From a happy clapper.
Come on the boo boys, get stuck in to me.
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A slow start for Wolves but once the players calmed down they played some quality football.
I know Liverpool are not at their best but they are still a good side. The way our team performed shows we are good enough to stay in the premiership. If we can just beat Hull….
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A much improved performance than the last few games, and a good second half. As I have said before if we pass to our own players which we didn’t do in the first half, and keep shape then we can put anyone under pressure. Kevin Doyle is worth avery pound and more if we can get someone along side him to support him goals will come. Craddock was again excellent supported by Berra, Foley should still be playing RB and Zubar would be a much better CB. I still thinik Henry is the week link and needs replacing quickly.
We have to keep this tempo up to stay up.
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wolves are very good to keep a draw come on wolves!!!!
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A good result and point a lot better defensive wise need to get another striker thou
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Great result, we just need to do it all again on Saturday.
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well that was better and what a massive point it was it just kept us out of the bottom 3 kevin doyle was fantastic if only we had more players like him we would be near enough safe now lets hope mad mick learns from that and plays his strongest team from now on,think zubar has earnt a run in the team he played well good challenges and made some good runs as well all in all a good performance and please lets have more of them,but on a moaning note (you knew i had to have one)why did mad mick make the sub so late bringing the new bloke on with 1 or 2 mins to go its going to take him 10 mins just to get in the game and to be quite frank it could have lost us the game as late on liverpool attacked down the wolves left and could have nicked it but rant over well done lads leta have more now and see us through till the end of the season,,,WE ARE WOLVES,,,in mad mick we dont trust,,,ilk
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The late substitution was to waste some time. It always takes 30s or so, and the time never seems to be added on. Watch how often teams who want to hold on, make really, really late substitutions.
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Who can moan about a point against Liverpool! Well done lads! This could be the season we stay up but we still need to sign a decent striker! Still not got a hungry goal scorer yet Doyle or no Doyle! Ebanks Blanks is firing blanks I’m afraid. If only Bully was still young enough!
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Good point tonight against a very average Liverpool.
Can’t see how we will score without any real creative midfielder?
Ward gave away the ball too often and is too weak, Foley is inept in midfield.
Solution = Sack Mad Mick :) clap on boys!!!
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Who would you instead of Ward?? I disagree with your point I thought he did Ok last night, but I’m interested as to who you’d have in there instead.
I agree with you regarding Foley, now he does give the ball away too often, I do feel sorry for him in a way becaus he’s oly playing where he is told to.
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I would certainly be looking for an experienced Natural left back as Ward although he gives his all IS caught out all to often especially against pacey forwards.
Like you say cant blame the lad only being played where he is told to.
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Nicky Shorey will be returning from his loan spell with Forest tomorrow, we should be in there trying to sing him up!
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Grace—— SHOREY on loan.
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Definitely but can we have any more players on loan? we should put a offer in to buy him.. Forest are going too
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Yep, good call, if we can get him, but I don’t think we will
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I´d have to loved to see them Wanderers win tonight but a draw under the circumstances will have to do. But indulge me please……. What about the new signings? Two players, one minutes worth of action between them. I guess MM really wanted them to make an impact. He´s certainly made one on me…..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Agh well, I shouldn´t complain. At least it wasn´t a defeat by mighty Wigan, only a draw at home to Liverpool. It´ll suffice. You can´t win em all and we can win at all these days. So a draw´s better than nowt. Sorry Mr Morgan sir, sorry like………No disrespect intended, yer honour sir…… yeah well, slink away like…….. Hope for better times………like always. Sorry Mr Millions, er Morgan, I mean, yeah like I said. Up the sorry….I mean…Wolves. Well done lads, all the same. At least you did your bit. I hope we don´t forget it……this, I mean 0-0…. I mean….. well……..done…….lads, if we can get a manager to go with the effort, the shift like, well…..
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Again Championship football in the premier league, no control and no vision to make something of the game. Poor Doyle must be exhausted, he needs a partner who can score goals. Reina didn’t make a save in the second half. MM you need players that will at least try and score goals, not one wolves player tested Reina, you need a striker otherwise relegation is waiting for you.
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I think you mis-typed. Obviously you meant to type Hahnemann (didn’t make a save), but by mistake you typed Reina.
Going home, the Radio 5 reporter said if anyone deserved to win it was Wolves, and the first Liverpool fan on agreed with him.
So what’s ‘Championship’ about deserving to win against a Champions’ League team ?
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Zubar was out standing, he came of age tonight well done lads, if we had another striker of Doyles class we may well be mid table at the end of the season ..well at least 17th or above
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Very commendable display; well organised and highly committed, for which the team and manager can take credit.
Doyle was absolutely first class, running selflessly and, most crucially, intelligently. Lead the line as well as anyone you’ll see this season. Sylvain would do well to study a video of the game to appreciate the benefits of thoughtful movement and applying an effective physical presence…
Also, Zubar desrves a lot of praise; he too showed great enthusiasm, but also a good reading of the game that has hitherto been lacking somewhat.
My chief reservations in the immediate aftermath, are the lack of a credible partner to feed off Doyle; the obvious limitations to Foley’s game as a midfielder; and Milijas’s apparent lack of stamina- 60 minutes looks to be the maximum he can withstand- our Fitness Coach should take note!
Not withstanding all the above; we need to do the same again, and then some this Saturday, when there must be a cutting edge to our game.
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If we had another centre forward like Doyle we’d be mid-table! We’re a couple of quality players away from being a decent side. Hunt and Beattie/Benjani please!
A good point. Avoid defeat at Hull and I’ll be happy.
Thought Mancienne had an excellent game in front of the back four and made a difference. They didn’t run through us like other teams have been doing.
I think Henry needs a break. He’s not enough of a threat going forward and is a poor passer. Play the new guy or Castillo.
We’ve got a great chance of staying up this season if we can start beating the lesser teams.
Hi-ho Wolver’ampton!
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Just got in from watching a very much improved performance. If mick is going to play with one up front he needs to make sure that at least one midfielder supports him when we are attacking. Doyle was magnificent again as were Zubar Craddock and Berra and Ward at the back. We didnt look a million miles away from being a good side tonight and made Liverpool look ordinary. One complaint though – me and many others missed the start as ticket number 8 was missing from the season ticket books and there were lots of unhappy and angry supporters trying to get replacements after the match had started. How can this sort of shambles happen Wolves?
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With one up front, we need someone like Edwards (prev Colin Cameron did the same), who will go past the front man and get on in the box.
We’ve no other central midfield player that make those deeper runs into the box.
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Now let’s make sure we don’t spoil the good work and screw up at Hull. We’ve got to start putting daylight between us and them, and Portsmouth, so no more lifeless performances against the other stragglers?
There’s four days of the window left – there’s a guy rotting away at Spurs who’s desperate to show he’s not washed up…name of Bentley. Worth a punt on loan? And while we’re on Spurs, Robbie’s not exactly getting loads of games recently is he…?
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We did good tonight.
Just dont let Stearman on the pitch and keep the same squad as started tonight and we should crucify Hull
First game I have enjoyed since Man City away.
Lads I’m proud of you
A striker would be nice though or an attacking midfielder to feed Doyle
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a good point but with a bit more conviction and utilising players like bia and vokes we could have won this. liverpool were very poor. our back 4 were quality, henry got stuck in and doyle was man of the match. onwards 2 hull. a win would b nice but we must not lose.
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Agree with all that Rob, but my big fear at the end was a Liverpool counter-attack and a goal against the run of play. Pushing our players forward would have made that more likely.
A defeat would have been undeserved, and it would have put us in the bottom 3 – both psychologically damaging before we go to Hull.
I suspect McCarthy was right to take the bird in hand.
Having said that, that’s a formation that obviously worked, and a tweak to make it more attacking against lesser teams (starting with Hull) might be just what we need – e.g. swapping Foley for Kites or Mujangi. ?
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not the best game to watch, but more than happy with the point!at times i just wanted mick to throw on Vokes or Iwelumo, but I can understand why he didnt. Doyle was different class. Only thing to note really, hasnt Tony Daley got to start doin something about Milijas’ fitness? i kno he’s still getting to know the PL, but he never lasts 90 minutes, and it isnt as if he is a box to box midfielder. Still quality with his set pieces though.
Onwards and upwards
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What an absolutely immense display on his own up front from Kevin Doyle. I thought he was fantastic. The ball just sticks to the boys feet, so powerful to fend off bigger defenders too, just goes to show you that to buy quality you’ve got to spend big. Cheque book open please!
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Well done Mick and the lads.A great point, and in my opinion the right tactics; we needed to be tight in midfield.It is all down to Moxey now if he can complete negotiations for the two quality players we need that should keep us up.We have wasted too many opportunities in the last 15 years,let us not waste this one.
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Just got back home after just under 3 hours drive. I tell you one thing more frustrating than following the Wolves and that is havent they got a better way of managing the traffic down to one lane for roadworks onthe M6 at 11pm at night. Horrendous for 30 mins.
Anyway rant over.
The Wolves support was superb tonight. We made Liverpool look awful and their support was equally squeezed quiet.
First half as drab as you can imagine but we contained them with the 5 man midfield, though we kept misplacing passes so heaping uneccesary pressure on ourselves.
Mancienne really confuses me. I was dead pleased to see him in midfield and he did a good spoiling job – but his distribution is worse than under 13 level.
Second half we totally outfought them. Great tackles coming in from Zubar & Henry especially. Milijas was getting stuck in as well but could see him tiring again so no surprise to see him subbed.
Old man Carragher was under big pressure from Jarvo all night, but failure to deliver crosses consistently. Would have been interesting to see the new lad Geoffrey on for 10 mins to have a go at the no. 23.
Doyle was magnificent, running for the cause, winning headers he had no right to win. But he needs someone with him.
Clearly MM playing for a draw, hoping for a sneaky Spurs type win with the setup tonight. OK delivered but we could have got more.
Hopefully this result will help us get one or two established players in.
Finally – the crowd’s attitude to Reina especially but also the general noise against the scousers pushed them backwards. More needed every home game from now.
Up the Wolves, the 5 hour round trip was worth it.
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Fair play to you mate thats dedication for you.
Good summing up of the game.
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Spot on Fella.
Doyle was outstanding.
Zubar is starting to look like the player we all hoped he would be & Craddock & Henry were as dependable as ever, Ward did well too for me.
I agree about Manncienne his passing was awful v frustrating as was Jarvis & Foley’s lack of cutting edge.
But don’t want to linger on the negatives it was a good & well needed point, hopefully we can build on it at Hull on Saturday where defeat is unthinkable.
Also well done to McCarthy (which I don’t say too often) tactics wer spot on!!!
KTF
Wolvesforever
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A good point.Wolves need to do the business in the six-pointer against Hull.It is these games that give us a chance of staying up
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Doyle was outstanding , Good luck against Hull
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Good point tonight lads.
I thought Doyle was BRILLIANT, he ran himself into the ground for the cause and nearly capped it off with a goal. It was a corner, not a goal kick that followed but never mind.
The thing that pleases me most is we actually managed a clean sheet, something we haven’t done for a few games.
Can I just say I thought Mancienne played REALLY WELL in that position tonight, certainly I’d prefer him there than at CB.
Liverpool are shocking this season compared to others but it’s still a very well earned point IMO.
Tango man was there to watch but whether that will do any good with Mick’s changes who knows?
Come on Wolves 3 points against Hull on Saturday and things will look a bit rosier.
Wolves Till I Die.
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Good Well deserved point,But the game was dire especially in the first half.
Jarvis worked hard again and put over some good balls but without any body in the box Doyle excepted how on earth can you expect to score goals.
Hull will be up for on Saturday and this could be a season defining moment
Go for it MM.
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I think having the guts to drop Ebanks-Blake tells us that Mick is quality. The striker was great in the first half of last year but a lot of his goals after Xmas were penalties so i guess defences worked him out after January. I feel for the guy. A couple of goals to boost his confidence is all he needs but he has had recent chances and missed them. I hope he’ll come back.
Meanwhile if ever we needed a win it is on Saturday. I think last nights performance and tactics have shown us the way. Doyle can play alone and because we have pace, he can get the necessary support. I am starting to feel good about this season now. maybe, just maybe we can emulate the Blues – as much as it hurts me to suggest it.
Three M’s rule OK
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MCARTHY..QUALITY..YOUR HAVIN’ A LAUGH MATE. THE BLUES MANAGER IS PROVING TO BE QUALITY.
A QUALITY MANAGER WOULD HAVE DROPPED SEB WEEKS AGO, AND PLAY HIS BEST SIDE EVERY GAME. I BET MACLIESH WON’T MAKE 10 CHANGES AGAINST ARSENAL TONIGHT.
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The thing with SEB he is a goal poacher,a finisher,he dosent make many goals for himself,he needs to rely on other players to make his chances for him.If he was in a top team getting loads of chances he’d be scoring lots of them.Its no coincidence that since Michael Kightly has been injured-and that includes the last third of last season SEB has been strugling,indeed it was Kightly that won the penalty against Villa for SEB to get his only goal this season.Hes got to change his game now,he needs to play like Carlos Tevez,try and force defenders and goalies into miskates,at the moment hes not really doing anything to create chances for himself.Hopefully Kightly will be back on Saturday,i think we’ll start to see more chances created then.
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Great display, well done to the team.
I thought the tactics were just right, and for all those that thought we should have pushed on, I believe we nearly came unstuck when they broke off a couple of our attacks, and we would not have deserved to lose.
Bring on the next game and keep behind the guys, fantastic turn out last night.
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Isn’t it amazing that there is still criticism of Henry in these messages. Most of the national media, The Times, Guardian etc. gave him Man of the Match. Quite right. I wouldn’t swap him for any other player in the league. His commitment to Wolves, and Wolverhampton as his birthplace is there for all to see. He has been noticed by other teams this season, fans and management. Let’s not lose him to someone else. Get behind him! He was superb last night, as he has been all season.
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Personally, I think Henry played well tonight, but I suspect it was the liberating effect of having Mancienne take the holding midfielder role.
I’d like to see that repeated on Saturday.
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Me too Grey Wolf. It looks like we may have found a position in which he can excel (fingers crossed), definitely not at CB anyway.
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ALL YOU HAPPY CLAPPERS MAKE ME SICK……
WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP ???
NO GOALS (AGAIN)
NO SHOTS ON TARGET
NO SIGNINGS OF NOTABILITY
NO AMBITION
WOLVES FANS CONNED AGAIN,MARK MY WORDS, TWO OR THREE SLIGHTLY BETTER PERFORMANCES BEFORE THE EARLY BIRD OFFERS AND AS SOON AS THESE HAVE BEEN SNAPPED UP IT WILL BE BACK TO NORMAL.
CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL AGAIN NEXT TERM.
GET THE MUPPETS OUT…..NOW !!!!!!
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HAPPY MOANERS OUT NOW !!!!!!!
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where were you sitting last night, cos I didn’t hear your CAPITAL LETTERS. All I heard was an outstanding support for the Wolves.
On the other hand, go and apply for the job – CEO, chairman, manager. Lets have the interview in public and see how you get on.
Or even better, let us know where you’re playing next and we’ll all turn up to watch your PL quality.
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haven’t got a lot to live for obviously!
Perhaps it should be you that’s out, your Doc will be a bit concerned about your blood pressure.
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#32
Wow, I think you need to calm down. You are exactly the type of fan we don’t really need right now, sorry but it’s true.
In Cloud cuckoo land maybe we might have won if we had really gone for it. The only thing is this Liverpool side we played last night would probably have MURDERED US!!!
They may be a weakened side at the moment but if we had attacked them as you obviously wanted us to, they would have ripped us apart!
This is my problem, we actually play well against a top side and get a deserved point and what happens? Someone like you throws his toys out of the pram because we didn’t score, we also didn’t CONCEDE which is the least to expect playing at home if we’re going to be honest.
We had 1 or 2 shots on target but playing 4-5-1 as it essentialy was, did you REALLY expect chance after chance? Against Liverpool?
We’re not happy clappers, we think that a decent performance deserves recognition.
I’m sorry if playing well defensively for once upsets you, maybe you should give serious consideration to supporting another team before you give yourself high blood pressure.
To put it simply. This is Wolves playing in the Prem and it’s going to be a TITANIC struggle to stay up. If you want lots of goals, play the fixtures on FIFA, because in the real world, last night has restored some of my dwindling faith and a win on Saturday will get it back completely.
As long as you don’t renew your season ticket for next year (judging by the anger I would imagine that’s the case), then don’t let it concern you. However the rest of us will back our team ESPECIALLY when then play well.
2 or 3 slightly better performances? I’ll take that as if we play slightly better than that, we’ll probably win the games we play.
Come On You Wolves
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John.
You’re dead right about Henry. He was brilliant again last night, and several of his forward passes down the wings were sublime. Why can’t more Wolves fans see that? And why does Molineux always need a whipping boy these days? It didn’t used to be like that.
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Here Here
The lad has been quality since he signed.
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I have been knocking Henry all season but he was brilliant last night well done Karl please keep it up!!
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Travelling to the match,Mick Quinn (talk sport)slagging Wolves off as three soft points for Liverpool,,,after the match he put it down to Liverpool playing badly,and us just humping big balls up to Doyle.NO credit for a bloody good performance by a newly promoted side against the runners up in the premiership,the reason Liverpool played so bad is because we had a go at them,we were better than them Mr Quinn..Having said that,as good as we played last night,iff we did the same in all our remaining matches it wouldnt be enough,we desperatly need a GOALSCORER.
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Words fail me with some of the comments above but I’m not surprised by them, you’ll never be pleased with anything!!
A point well earned, yes we didn’t hit the target, ok we didn’t score again but it’s not as if we aren’t trying. The highlights summed up on Sky Sports showing 5 chances to us (none of which straightforward) and a mere 2 for Liverpool – That tell’s it’s own story.
In Wolves we trust, the goals will come and as for you SuperMickNOT, well you like to have a shout, shout about something else instead
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Dare I say it………..Henry man of the match??
I only counted three backward passes all game and that is the first time I have seen him going forward and in the oppositions penalty area ( he must have had a nose bleed )
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Doyle, I think, for M-o-M.
You might have noticed that Henry wasn’t playing his usual position. Mancienne was there, instead – and, in my opinion, did the job better than Henry does.
However, Henry played well further forward. Seems to me I remember a box-to-box run by him in the last minute against Charlton a couple of seasons ago, and he slid in the winner ? That’s the Henry I’d like to see again, surging forward. That holding role makes him cautious and negative.
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My assessment on the match is as follow.
USA, a calming influence in goal, great communication to his centre back.
Ward, distribution poor, never over lapped, but I guess we were set up to get a point so cant fault him. With the lack of quality of left back in the squad Ward will be there each game.
Jody, Won everything, never once got turned Good understanding with Berra
Berra, Please read Jody’s comments above.
Zubar, AWESOME, immense he was, and a great fist punching in the air to the wolves fans at the end summed up his dedication to the cause.
Henry, a spoiler, but distribution was poor, too many sideway passes, never a defence splitting ball to doyle which his natural game lacks. Also I wish he would have a pop at goal once in a while.
Mancienne, Another cracking game in the midfield, never gave liverpool chance to stamp authority in the game.
Jarvis, a couple of runs at Old Man Carragher and I wish he would had the ball more to do that. Crossed a couple for Doyle & Foley which on another day who knows.
Foley, adequate, Its obviously not his natural position but I wonder what Mick will do when Edwards & Kites are back?
Milljas. An enigma, Ooozes class and his 1st touch and distribution you cant fault. His fitness however is a worry. I cant understand why the tank runs empty after 60 minutes. Tony Daley, come on man sort it!!
Doyle MOTM for me. Never stopped running, link up play is 1st class, the ball is glued to his feet, had a chance to score but stuck it wide but he was immense!
McCarthy, tactically spot on, used his nut for once and needed to keep a clean sheet to give the team confidence and you could tell wolves were the better team. Question is though,,, what will the line up be on saturday because it strikes me that if you drop 1 in midfield and wolves play 4-4-2 we will get over run in midfield. No 2 ways about it. However playing 4-4-2 doubles your chances up front to score.
A point is a point and lets go for it against Hull!
The crowd were great, got behind the team in parts, gave Reina stick which is always a bonus lol. I think though in the main, Molineux can be like a library. I think the build up to the match is rather flat and has been like that for months. 1 question I would like to know is….. Why cant Wolves adopt an anthem. Dont get my wrong that ghastly impossible dream was horrible and sucidal, but when you here stoke fans belting out Delihah, it does make it to be an intimidating ground to visit. Answers anyone?
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The Liquidator ? :-)
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Yes!!!!
Bring it back, hi ho silver lining gets on my pip like you wouldn’t believe!!!!
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Nutshell post – agreed
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We’ve already got a match day anthem,the mighty LIQUIDATOR but at the request of the kill-joy Wolverhampton police force they wont play it because apparently it makes an intimidating atmoshere!!!-THATS THE BLOODY POINT OF AN ANTHEM!!!
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Liverpool were only a threat when WE had the ball and WE were going back towards our own goal.
They knew we would pass back to the keeper whatever and it happens far too regularly.
Team know what we are going to do.
We seem unable to turn and go on the offensive.
It really was a scrappy match.
Very little in the way of tactics and very stop start.
Typical McCarthy and it won’t change against Hull next match.
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No tactics ?
McCarthy completely changed the formation to frustrate Liverpool. Mancienne sitting in front of the defence to nullify Gerrard. A regular 4-man midfield, all with license to get forward and support Doyle. Benitez – master tactician – had no answer.
A disrupted stop-start game was exactly what McCarthy wanted, and it was what the players delivered. Liverpool never got into their passing-game.
By the end of the game we were more likely to win than they were.
Liverpool were 11-8 on to win the game. We got a point and could have pinched 3 – and that was because of tactics.
Do tell, what ‘tactics’ would you have used ?
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Thought Henry was quality tonight, the way he broke up play was critical and talk about tough tackling! He should be in the team, however not with a further 3/4 defensive midfielders and this has to be addressed.
Also, will we ever score again in the PL? Any other team would have beaten Liverpool last night with our overall performance, we just never look like scoring, even from set pieces these days which is worrying. Goals scored column says it all, cannot understand bringing in two midfielders and no strikers or defenders (yet)
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much better but now muppet play the same team
on saterday,zubar look good before but then did not play him got give player a run not just your buddy like henry who plays every week.
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7 defensive players on the pitch for a home team in a big league game is a disgrace.
Maybe if we attacked more we could of won, as Liverpool looked shaky at the back.
Why didn’t we put them more under pressure?
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And maybe if we’d attacked more it would have been a more open game, better suited to Liverpool than to us, and we’d have been torn apart ?
You and your ilk predicted that we’d get nothing from the game. Then when we get a well-deserved point with a team set up to do exactly that, you call it a ‘disgrace’ ?
Just once – how about you try and find something positive to say ?
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Do everyone a favour and go and support someone else Wolvesmod. You do nothing but spout negative comments no matter what the situation and twist everthing good, like a hard earned point against one of the best 6-7 teams in the country, or bad to suit another of your moans.
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Fantastic performance – love Mancienne in midfield and Zubar in defense. No need to repeat all the comments.
For me the main story is the fact that I watched a great display for free, live on a Russian website (can’t travel to every game!). This does not bode well for teams that rely on big cash hand-outs from the likes of SKY and foreign broadcasters. They rely on monopoly airing rights to pull in the TV advertizing revenue. If that goes then so does a major source of club revenue.
Hence, this underlines once again why Wolves is being very well managed top to bottom. The future is very risky for clubs that over speculate!
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To all the posters on here who say that good premier strikers will not come to a struggling club.WEST HAM have just signed Gudjohnsen and Benni McCarthy and Wigan have signed a top Striker from VillaReal.WHERE ARE WE ,WHAT ARE YOU DOING MOX???????
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Paul:
1. West Ham are on fantasy money. They were apparently willing to stump 100k a week for van the travelling man.
Badjohnsen and Benni Hill can see mega £ signs so good for them.
2. As though JM is going to tell you what he’s doing in the market.
3. top striker from villareal to wigan. I doubt if he is a top striker cos he wouldnt be going to JJB land. Even so wigan have been in the Pl for 5 years is it
And before anybody starts spouting about bluenoses and why can’t we do the same. Did you see on tv the other week steve mcmanaman have a laugh in the directors box with the fur coat man (where’s he from again by the way) who now owns Brum. Bunch of money grabbing glory seekers I say.
Get real Paul
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Walden
1.When interviewed a few days ago Sullivan and Gold said that West Ham were “over100million in the red.I dont think that constitutes “fantasy money”
2 I dont need to be consulted by Moxey re targets, his record is well known by most Wolves FANS.
3With the exception of Doyle, Benni McCarthy and Gudjohnson are far superior to anything we have and would improve the team.
4 I AM REAL —-PRAT!!!! I DON T HIDE BEHIND COWARDLY NOME DE PLUMES LIKE YOURS
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Point No. 4 sums up the (lack of)quality of your argument.
Nothing else to be said
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Mr Norman.
Wots going on. give it back to im
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Excellent result lads, same again for Saturday Mick. Frustrate Hull in the first half and score a bag full in the seciond !!
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Brilliant. Much improved and Mick must have a much clearer idea now of who his starting 11 are – Minus Ward.
Unless we bring in a striker in the cose (which we really have to) we now have a much better formation making use of our strongest dpt – the midfield. 451 puts our best foot forward, Doyle is pure class, and with Milijas and Jarvis both looking dangerous up front think this is where we can pilfer some goals.
Well Done Lads. And well Done Mick for being prepared to change tactics.
Same again please.
COME ON YOU WOLVES
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I wasn’t particularly happy how agin MM is playing Foley right wing. He was our best player last season at RIGHT BACK yes F-O-L-E-Y, F-O-L-E-Y is our RIGHT BACK he’s gold and black he’s F-O-L-E-Y. He scored 1 goal for us last season! and now he’s been pushed in at right wing???? when Stearman got sent off i seen it as a blessing for foley to go straight back there.But NO MM is playing square pegs in round holes.we have zubar and stearman who signed as CB playing RB ?? However i do like Zubar and Staerman but lets face it there not RB’s!
Then to make things worse he signs a out and out winger to challenge Jarvis and the like and then brings on the new defensive CM at left wing?
Im happy with the point. However Liverpool were poor and were there for the taking! I was realy bored last night and top things off the badge man behind the south said before the game Doyle’s not worth 6 million!! i told him TEVEZ could play up-front for us and he wouldnt score as we dont create enough! Doyle is worth 6 million of anyones money!!!
I told him if you play a team line up as defensive as wolves did yesterday we are great at blocking and getting in a tackle and competing in the air but going forward were clueless…….right RANT over. I’ll be there on Saturday hopefully watching 4-4-2 and wolves win away!
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it was no more than a point against the worst liverpool side ive ever witnessed,you dress it up anymore than that because they are well and truly DIRE.
MUPPET MICK OUT !!!
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Ahh. So Liverpool are ‘dire’, and we should beat them ? That’s a team that are 5th in the table, hundreds of millions of talent in the squad, and they recently beat Spurs (4th) and Villa (7th) away.
So your benchmark for Mick is that we must beat Liverpool, or else he should be sacked ?
A draw isn’t good enough ?
If you’re for real – which I doubt – then I nominate you for ‘Most unrealistic Fan of the Year’.
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How can you say Mick out??
That was a fantastic point against a potential top 4 team!!
In Mick we trust.
WE ALL IGNORE THE HAPPY CLAPPERS AND UNFAITHFUL FANS!!
UTW
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Great point and well deserved. Just have one problem and that was Jones’ free kick at the end.Perfect position to strike at goal and they try to work something. Just take the shot!!!! But anyway, no harm done so well done wolves.
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Liverpool were that bad last night, they made Wolves look good!
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A very well deserved point and a clean sheet at last. With a bit more belief we may have gone on to win. Nevertheless, a great confidence boost for everyone. Doyle and Berra were superb!
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Liverpool were the worst side to come to Molineux this season, worse than Burnley!! Couldnt believe it at times.
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Would it really hurt that much to give some credit to the team you claim to support ?
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Ok its a point gained but we should change our name to Wolves nil, when was the last time we scored a league goal!!!!
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A welcome point but hard earnt in my opinion! There were som very good displays out there last night and some fight but again no goals!!!! Doyley u r fantastic mate i hope we sign some decent players who can give you better service and support. Milijas is a dream to watch as well. I thought wardy, Berra, Craddock and Henry had decent games. In the second half wolves played some decent football and took it to liverpool. Hate to think what would have happened if gerrard had been firing on all 4 n Torres playing!!! Any way, that said i wait with bated breathe on more new faces at the sacred ground. It was a bit disconcerting to hear on sky sports later that we have the lowest goal rate n lack quality. We know it only too well but will the MMM make it possible. We’ll see.
Its gonna be a tough game against Hull as they need the points as well.
True grit n determination is now needed! I look forward to seeing the new boys in the startin line up.
Come on you woffers!!!
Wolves forever!
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Anyone else getting a little fed up of the way that when there’s a bouncing ball, Jarvis runs towards it, jumps and it goes over his head by a mile (therefore showing effort but no committment). Reminds me of a dog chasing a ball in the park
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Glory glory Wolverhampton
Glory glory Wolverhampton
Glory glory Wolverhampton
As the Wolves go marching on on on
PS
All we are saying is give us a goal!
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I thought I had to reply to this in ” wolves 0 Liverpool 0 ” analysis……………
McCarthy’s assertion after the game that Molineux can rarely have witnessed a finer centre-forward display since Beta-Max was the nation’s preferred choice of video watching.
I may be wrong but a centre forwards job is to score goals…. Doyle played great but if MM is going to say we have not witnessed a better centre forward display then he must be mad…..
You can run about all day chasing lost causes, winning headers, but if you don’t score goals then you don’t win football matches…. Not saying it is Doyles fault he is just playing to MMs system and quality of team mates.
On the other hand Mr bull would chase lost causes, win headers, knock players out the way and still score………..I know which I would prefer?????
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Let’s be fair. Steve Bull was an International-class striker playing in the second tier. Compare the goal-scoring of Doyle and Bull at that level, and you’ll find them not at all dissimilar.
The glory of Steve Bull is that he did it for 13 years, and he stayed loyal to the club when he could have made lots more money elsewhere.
Please don’t knock Doyle. All he needs is better service.
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Good result last night for the boys ! Didnt give Liverpool a sniff ! Personally i think a new attacking midfielder to feed Doyle wouldnt go a miss ! Overall if we go to Hull playig like we did last night we could take 3 points !! C’mon me babbies !!
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calm down chaps & wenches it was a gud point but smaller teams around must be beaten fust .
hull is a must 3 points if not then its all doom until we play another ” BIG SIDE” then they might raise there game for that.
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If Moxey is concerned about balancing the books , he could sack the groundskeeper. We don’t need him because the ball rarely touches the ground!!! A good point for the team but what a poor advertisement for the Premiership!!! No one watching this game would consider the Prem “the best League in the world”.
Someone suggested that Milijas was useless – if you were a creative midfielder you would be useless too if you had to spend most of the match watching the ball sail over your head countless times!!!
I am wondering what on earth the coaching staff work on at that splendid training facility day in and day out – certainly not working on passing, ball control, creative attacking play and finishing!!!
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Im sorry but…… Am i going mad? For me last nights performance (apart from 20 mins in 2nd half) was complete tosh! Its just a good job liverpool are a v poor side at present! Some of our football is laughable! Passes from 5 yards going out of play, hoofs aimlessly booted up park, passes back to keeper at every opportunity (which must have been a tactic we did it so much) our team is so negative but is it really any wonder when you have 8 out of 11 defensive minded! Now im as pleased as anyone with a point but im not really sure what entertainment i got! And isnt this what we pay our hard earn money for? The type of football on show is so drab its untrue, its really woefull and basic at times! It just proves how thick most of our supporters really are when they clap after a pass doesnt find its man from 10 yrds n rolls out of play!!?? What are they clapping? That the idea was there? They are getting upwards of 25k a week for that! Jeeez! And b4 you jump on my back and say but it was liverpool etc what about all the other games where 9 times out of 10 its been exactly the same whoever the opposition!! I will always be vocal n support my team at games but to come on here and say the team played fantastic, what a great night etc etc blah blah come on fellas get a grip!
We pay alot ALOT of money to see our team and i fir one would like to be entertained! What is the actual point of scraping results and playing negative?so we can just about hold on for dear life in prem just to do it all again next year? Because can you see us buying big players and paying big wages even if we do stay up nxt yr with moxey in charge? Because i cant!!!
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Hello Crowfish
I got to say I was as much entertained by the wonderful wolves supporters as much as the team on the pitch. The way reina was treated was one of the best bits of entertainment at a sporting event I’ve witnessed.
And dont get me started on how much these players are paid.
My little saying to my football mad boys is “they’re paid thousands of pounds a week and they can’t pass the ball 5 yards/take a corner” etc etc. That winds them up.
At least wolves players aren’t paid as much as last night’s Amerifield boys to make misplaced passes.
Finally – you don’t have to go to the games if you don’t want to. Nobody forces you to go – or maybe there are dark secret forces.
Up the Wolves and all the real supporters on this board.
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If your for one minute suggesting im not a real supporter, im happy for you to come to my home and ill show you every season ticket and away game ticket stubb for at least the last 10 yrs, if you think that abusing reina for 90 mins is “ENTERTAINMENT” and well worth the entrance fee then i bet you get tired of the constant knocking sound in your head, which is your half a brain bouncing about inside your skull. I go to games to support my team REMEMBER…. it wasnt always this bad! but my point is… IT IS AT THE MOMENT!!!
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As they say, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Thanks but I won’t take up your invitation to see your season ticket.
I have 3 serious questions for you:
1. I was born close to the Molineux. Where do you think that was?
2. I went to a school within 400 yards of the Molineux that was closed in the early 70s. whats was the name of that school
3. I lived within half a mile of the birthplace of the Wolves. Name that
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Whitmore reans
Saint Peters and Pauls
And you lived in Blakenhall
What a claim to fame you have Walden.
Crowfish obviously didn’t go in the 80s because all there was to do was take the mick out of the keepers ( the team where really rubbish then and matches were awaful but we still had fun and kept ourself entertained )
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Lincs Wolf, thanks for entering my little quiz!!!
No. 1 & 2 – wrong answers
No. 3 correct
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When are you all going to realise we aren’t the club we were. A point against Liverpool might meen prem football next season. Then we carry on building it will be a very slow proses. So get behind the lads and stop bitchin. Up the Wolves
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It was well earned point, however, leaving the ground I could not help feel it could have been better, if we had Milijas with Jarvis on for the full 90 then maybe. One fan on BBC WM voiced the same thinking and the next fan had a moan at the one who wanted 3 points, of course it was a big point, I’m of younger generation of fans and this was the third time of seeing Liverpool in the stadium arena, the first a pre-season friendly in Dave Jones’s first full season the second was Kenny Millers late equaliser against Gerard Houllier’s side, safely to say this Liverpool were the poorest of three.
The first half was a bit of non-event, second was a big improvement, Jarvis had the beating of Carragher, Milijas was linking the play well (he didn’t appear to be tiring to me, he certainly deserved more than a 6 rating by Martin Swain) and there was Doyle, fantastic through out, but still he needs more clear-cut chances. The system wouldn’t be too my liking however with Mancienne and Henry in the middle allowing the first three players I have mentioned to go and attack more freely, the system was more of Liverpool’s way last season in our case Henry breaks play, Mancienne picks out the passes to the attacking players, there would probably be one change when Edwards or in deed Kightly when fit would go right wing. I would urge Mick to keep this side for the next game, keep Jarvis, Milijas and Doyle in the starting eleven for every game left to help their understanding and of course produce more consistent results because these three can keep us up. So with that, surely our 17 goals will grow, our defence doesn’t look too bad at a collection 38 goals conceded joining West Ham and Sunderland. Craddock was better with Berra (who was great last night) and Zubar should remain at right back for the rest of season, Hahnemann was solid.
I’ve written this before and again I’ll write, that we need, well must start on a unbeaten run for preferably 10 games, or get at least a run of victories that may well come from our away form kind of like how Hull survived last season. Lets get three wins on the bounce starting with Hull, Crystal Palace and then Birmingham in an ideal world I might add. This does brings me to the real reason of our struggle, which of course we were going to be coming up, however in our mini-league in the bottom half we have failed to take points at home against the obvious West Ham, Portsmouth, Birmingham and Wigan (the bluenoses could claim to being a mid table team pushing for Europe now), with those four a away defeat at Blackburn. We should of beaten Hull as well, so this weekend fixture has to be three points.
Onwards and upwards
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