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The Wolves fan view of the window
Friday 22nd January 2010, 9:15AM GMT.
Wolves blogger Nathan Lloyd gives a fans perspective on the transfer window and hopes that the January business does not begin and end with Geoffrey Mujangi Bia.
Love it or hate it, from a fan’s perspective, the January transfer window often gives us the quixotic hope that a faltering season can be turned around with the magic wave of a chairman’s cheque book.
Stoke’s survival last season was aided massively by the acquisition in the winter transfer window of James Beattie, a player now looking destined for Fulham and not Wolves, more the pity.
I’m sorry, but I find it hard to get over-excited when the news filtered through yesterday that we had signed Geoffrey Mujangi Bia, apparently another You Tube sensation. I’m not the greatest of footballers, but edit a couple of my goals and runs together and stick it on the web and I would probably look a world beater!
We need something to start the Wolves engine motoring again. We need an Adam Johnson, a Stephen Hunt or a Jamie O’Hara. We need a big name signing for the fans to believe that this season isn’t going to end in disaster.
I have said it before and I’m going to bore you all and say it again – I am sick and tired of everybody saying that there will be three worse teams than us at the end of the season and we will therefore survive relegation by default.
OK, if that’s the case, lets look at the evidence. Portsmouth are on the edge of abyss, Burnley now have Brian Laws in charge, Hull need to offload players to balance the books, Sunderland are on the slide, Bolton and Blackburn have looked awful – on it goes.
But I don’t want to rely on other three other teams being a little bit more rubbish than we are and I’m sure you don’t either.
Our manager Mick McCarthy bought poorly in the summer. He brought in mainly Championship level players to make up the numbers and it’s a gamble that clearly hasn’t worked.
Arguably, only three of those signings – goalkeeper Marcus Hahnemann, Kevin Doyle and Nenad Milijas – have made any difference to what we already had at the club.
Just why didn’t Mick spend the six odd million quid wasted on Andrew Surman, Stefan Maierhofer and Greg Halford on one quality centre-back, winger or striker?
OK, I accept that attracting the big name players to a newly promoted side is always going to be tricky, especially with the wage structure we have in place, but I’d rather give a player a bit of extra dough than line the pockets of those football agent vermin.
Mick can’t do a thing about the mistakes of the summer now, but he does have a chance to bring in players who are going to make a significant difference for the second-half of our season.
Mujangi Bia could well prove to be a success, but history shows that signing unproven players in a winter transfer window rarely pays dividends.
Proven Premier League quality may not come cheap, but there is a fundamental reason for that and the clue is in those first three words.
When I met Wolves chief executive Jez Moxey last week, he was quick to point out how this club is financially sound and debt free. Fair enough and yes I’m glad we are not in the economic mess that Portsmouth, West Ham and Hull find themselves in.
But what would you tell your grandchildren about our latest top-flight adventure? “Well little Johnny, we may have finished that season relegated, but I tell you what, the books balanced and we made a profit on the hotdogs.” Unless the kid is an aspiring accountant, I can’t imagine they’ll be overly excited.
Come on Mr Morgan, you said yourself that we are not just here to make up the numbers, well now is the time to prove it. If our next signing is Daryl Murphy from Sunderland and not a quality signing of intent and purpose, then we may as well give up now.
Just what is this club’s ambition this season?
Moving on and let’s not bother talking about the Wigan game, it really was abysmal.
Instead let’s focus on the upcoming back-to back games at the Molineux, starting with Crystal Palace in the FA Cup at the weekend and a welcome distraction to the toils of the relegation battle.
It’s nearly 15 years ago since we played the Eagles in the sixth round of the FA Cup when they absolutely battered us in a replay at Molineux. We lost 4-1 that day to a Palace side who were then in the top-flight and if you get a chance, the last two goals are belters and well worth revisiting on You Tube.
Now the roles are reversed with Wolves in the Premier League and Palace just outside the play-off places in the Championship. But I think their manager Neil Warnock will have them fired up against a Wolves team low on confidence on the back of a trio of recent league defeats.
Darren Ambrose will be dangerous, but Palace’s biggest threat is likely to come from wonder kid Victor Moses who has been linked with a big money move with just about all of the top clubs as well as Real Madrid.
Mick has already stated his intent and will play his strongest side. So hopefully we won’t see the likes of George Elokobi, Surman, Matt Hill or Maierhofer and therefore we should have a really good chance of being in the hat for the fifth round.
I’m sure that Wayne Hennessey will be in goal and I would give Kevin Doyle a spot on the bench, with the game against Liverpool in mind. But please Mick, no more Kevin Foley in midfield. Round pegs and square holes and all that?
After that appalling miss against Wigan, I’m sure Sylvan Ebanks-Blake will be eager to prove a point in this game. But with 19 unsuccessful shots on goal this season and just one goal from the spot, I do think that he has had his last chance to prove he can cut it in the Premier League.
There is no room for sentimentality, especially at this level of football, sorry Sylvan.
I think the equation is simple – his replacement needs to be a target man of proven quality, not a donkey like Kevin Kyle or a Maierhofer who looks alarmingly out of his depth, maybe then we can believe that we have a fighting chance of survival.
Of course, a win against Palace will be a welcome boost to morale, but I would exit the cup if it meant we picked up three points against Rafa Benitez’s Liverpool on Tuesday night.
Facing Liverpool under the floodlights next week is why we love playing at this level of football. They are a beatable side, as was nearly shown when we played them on Boxing Day, but even without Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres they still have enough talent to give us a very difficult game.
Enjoy the cup game and the rest of your weekend.
Up the Wolves!
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I think you’re being a little harsh on Surman! I think he will be around for a while and become a good player, but thats just my opinion.
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I agree he hasn’t had a chance to show what he can do yet.
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We may have signed Geoffrey but will it work given the fact that we’ve just sold Bungle to Preston. Having said that, we still have a muppet playing at left back.
Lack of Premiership quality shows Morgan’s lack of commitment to the club and faith in Moxey/Mick. At least he’ll be able to watch his team thrashing Wolves on Tuesday night.
Will all of the happy clappers on here be going to the cup game tomorrow? Bob Wolf will be there as usual but doubts all of you lot will be there.
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A typical negative statement from you again. We must stay up this season to be able to give you and the other members of Billy Smart’s Circus the stick you deserve.
I bet you are one of the numerous people in the seats that get nagged at home and look forward to getting to Molineux and taking it out on any Wolves player!
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Nice one rob, why dont u do one and go support someone from birmingham!
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wolfy in disguise
Why don’t we have a chat about that in person!! Wanderer 2pm!! Bet your not there!
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I don’t because I am a proper Wolves fan that has supported us through thick and thin unlike you armchair supporters.
It might have escaped your notice – brain dead – that a famous club like Wolverhampton Wanderers has a fanbase far and wide not just in Wolverhampton!
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Sorry Nick,
Some of us have jobs to pay for our season tickets, so cant make it unfortunately!
And why you getting involved? I was talking to Rob!
And Rob, im not from wolverhampton, but i support them not my local team!
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oi wolfy in disguise
i have not missed a single home or away game this season, i missed 4 away games last season and i have had a season ticket since i was 2, so thats 18 years,
so because we come from birmingham doesnt make our opinion void, at least we dont just chat negative garbage constantly and we show our team support at the match which is probs more than you
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SPOT ON BOBBY MY SON, AND YES OLD SOUTHBANK WILL BE THERE WITH YA AS USUAL.
I SEE THE SANDWELL OR BLUES FAN IS ON HERE AGAIN MASQURADING AS A WOLVES FAN.
SHOULDN’T YOU BE PLEASED THAT BLUES ARE DOING SO WELL, RATHER THAN PATRONISING THE TRUE WOLVES FANS WITH YOUR USUAL DRIVEL.
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Me and Nick are not masquerading as Wolves fans. If you ever went to any away games you would know exactly who we are. I bet any money that you were not at Tranmere last round?
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Bob Wolf was at Tranmere – don’t remember seeing any Brummie idiots there!!
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i was at tranmere bob wolf, i drove me and my mates off and i was freezing, tell ya what how about i come and show you my wolves tattoo and my season ticket and my away season ticket
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well said rob idiots about ,yes surport far and wide. come on me babbies.tap and spile..
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Like the humour Bob
Though a little harsh on Ward, just think you could have the doorman from Yates’s playing there!!!
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Logically, those who are most discontent are most likely to stop going – and the people on these Message Boards threatening to not renew their Season Tickets all appear to be of the ‘Sack the lot’ tendency.
If you’re happy (clappy or otherwise), why would you stop going ?
Since you complain constantly about how bad everything is, and boast almost as often about how you keep going back for more, I guess you must enjoy the pain ? Masochist, by any chance ?
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Your taking it to a level he will not understsnd Grace .Funny Though!
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Even I would agree it’s time for the board to put up or admit that they were never really committed to survival. If the players mentioned end up moving (therefore were available) but go elsewhere for bigger fees/more wages we will have to conceed we are run like a Championship club having a season in the Prema and not vice versa. Balance the books yes – watch the club sink with £25M in the bank no.
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Very good appraisal Nathan,Moxey is first and foremost an accountant who puts profit before success.
Morgan has not yet shown any serious intent.
Micks continuous playing of square pegs in round holes is having a serious detrimental effect on the team.
Just hope for a least one (Really need 2)quality signings before the end of the window.
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Typical negative attitude Nathan, your views change like the wind.
Mujangi Bia could well prove to be a success, but history shows that signing unproven players in a winter transfer window rarely pays dividends.
When did we sign Kightly then, another Taff discovery?
I don’t know why you persist with writting this drivel, all you do is write what you think people want to read and make yourself look weak
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An unproven player signed as the answer to keeping us up? You really think that is the tactic that will ensure survival?
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i think u am all rong i reackon micks going to do right by fans and the club this seasson cum on lads dont forget it was is choice of team wot brong us bk to top flight so pehraps we do need sum strykers but lads who scored the most goals last season dont forget every stryker as there bad run ive still got faith in sylvan and i reackon doyle and munjai is going to prove us wrong any way lads lets get hopes up for palace away and liverpool one of my to favourite teams to play
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Agreed Newbridge.
Was lovely to see Nathan all kisses and cuddles with Morgan at the Hall of Fame last week, I wonder if he was so direct in his approach then ?
I refute the accusation of poor spending in the summer (with the exception, with hindsight, of Halford). Blues did not buy quality in the summer. They purchased an £8mn untried striker. Yes, now the money is in it looks like they’re investing, and I hope we do as well.
Lets see whats happened at the END of the window.
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If Blues did not buy quality, I’ll bet the Bluenoses can’t wait till they do!!!
MUPPETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ferguson and Johnson were great bits of business as was getting Hart on loan!!
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Can’t argue with any of that Nathan. Wished I could, but I can’t – we have to ask why, if we have aspirations to be an established premier league team, are we not going for Beattie, Hunt – they should be the minimum quality we are looking for. We going to try and do it on the cheap aren’t we? No Wolves fan wants to see us in debt, but Morgan was lucky enough to buy a debt-free club for a tenner, so we’re hardly in dire straits are we? I hope the Belgian (Zaire?) kid does well for us, but I find it hard to get excited by untried Johnny foreigners. I hope I do enjoy my weekend, ‘cos last week’s was awful!!
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It’s so easy on “Football Manager,” isn’t it? I want “Player X” and so he comes. Why doesn’t it therefore happen with the Wolves? we want Johnson, Beattie and Hunt, and they should just come to us because we put in a bid. Forget the fact that Middlesbrough, Stoke and Hull don’t want them to leave. Forget that they are under contract. Forget the fact that they might not want to move at this particular time. Forget the fact that they may be getting paid too much at theeir current clubs and we realise they are overpaid and will not match silly demands. WE WANT THEM, THEY SHOULD WANT TO COME, THEIR TEAMS DON’T WANT TO RELEASE THEM. JUST BLAME THE 3 M’S. The sheep on E & S including the so called journalist will follow the negativity, and you will think you have at least half a brain.
GET REAL PEOPLE!!! THIS IS NOT “FOOTBALL MANAGER.” PLAYERS WILL NOT FALL OVER THEMSELVES TO JUST COME BECAUSE WE PUT IN A BID.
Even Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man City get knocked back by players. A couple at least of them wanted Ribery and David Villa. Which one of them did they choose to sign for? Oh, that’s right!! None of them. Blame their owners, CEO’s and Managers, and sack the lot of them. (Or should that only be at Wolves?)
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Brereton, How long is it now since we last survived a season in top flight football?27 years and still counting.These are our fans and they want better.Don’t you?Surely you can accept that Moxey’s excuses are getting a bit thin after 9 years.We have good gates and Sir Jack has been very generous and yet still the people managing our football club cannot make a footballing success of it.
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Chris, I agree we all want the same thing. The problem is identifying AND getting the necessary players. There are not a lot of comings and goings this window, and it appears that even the squad players from teams in the Prem are not being made readily available. (Martin O’ Neill didn’t want Gardner to leave by all accounts, but the player insisted he wants first team football. Birmingham is a good fit for him, as he is a lifelong fan, along with his family members, so we were unlikely to get him.
Many Prem players are away in the African Cup of Nations, and I wonder if that is affecting things? Teams need to use their squad players to fill the gaps left temporarily by these missing players, and so less squad players are being allowed to move.
It’s a hard act to get right. Risk all, and maybe do a Portsmouth? Be careful, and maybe not stay up. I’m glad it isn’t my task.
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Its the Republic of Congo now.Zaire no longer exists.
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Er, the last time I checked it was the 22nd, and the window doesnt close til 31st. Arent you all a little premature? Lets see what happens before we start whining.
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We have no Ambition under the 3Ms. We were promised we would not go up and do what we did the last time and we would be buying premier experience. So far we have bought 2 players which could be premier class Milijas and Marcus Hahnemann , the rest of the buys are average championship players . I said when the season begun we needed to be brave and buy quality or suffer and we haven’t and we are now seeing the fruits of our pathetic buys and empty promises ,you pay for quality and you get quality and if you don’t pay big you end up with a buch of Frankowski’s . THANKS THE 3Ms for nothing.
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Totally agree, we are showing a complete lack of ambition in signing unproven kids from Belgium.
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He is only loan. I remember when we got another young winger on loan from non league!! Bet we thought the same and look what happened there.
Give the kid a chance, keep the faith!
He has one quality which we lack, some PACE!!
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Well said Wolves AY I. The boy’s got pace to burn and looking at clips on youtube, he’s got good contol, he’s direct and not scared to take people on. Fingers crossed this will create more goals and give SEB better chance of proving his worth in this league.
Keep the gold flag flying high people!
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Woolfie4371, Do you honestly believe that Doyle is not Premier Class? I thought I had heard everything, and yet you still managed to shock me.
Silasluzhny, Wigan showed a total lack of ambition with Zaki, Rodallega, and Santa Cruz. I had never heard of them, but they came in and set the league alight. What about Thierry Henry? Patrick Vierra? Fabregas? Van Persie? Vallencia? What about Kightly? The list could go on and on. Whay can’t this kid come in and make a difference? Of course, he may not. Give the guy a chance to show what he can do before you write such negativity about him though.
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Well said breretonwolf2008!
We are so quick to judge in this country before we get all the information needed to do so ie. see what the lad is like in a Wolves shirt.
Yes, the you tube clips could be misleading or he may take time to settle but give the lad a chance before you shoot him down please!
Come On You Wolves.
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Whats wrong with surman??? looks quality when played. Its a shame now that in the game the balance sheet is now more important than the football itself.
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Nothing wrong with Surman thought he was good against Man City as was Zubar but they havnt been seen since…Players like Henry,Ward,Foley out off posistion,Mancienne(Beera must play)are the week links…cmon Wolves bring in the prem quality we need and fans deserve…..cmon Wolves lets do Palace(HATE WARNOCK)
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Hmmmmmm the 3Ms….With the budget he has had Mick as found some decent players ( although many not premier league standard and not with a premier league budget ) He has built from virtually nothing after Hoddle etc although if he had 60 million to spend I don’t think he would attract the players. He has old fashioned values and would rather buy 20 X 3 million pound players with lower wages tha 6 x 10 million pound players with big wages…
Jez only does what the board and now the owner tells him. He has a budget to stick to and there is only one man who can change that and that is the owner.
I think that Mr. Morgan is a football fan but is reluctant to really splash the cash when Liverpool are still in turmoil. Wolves would be very handy for proving that he can run a football club soundly, financially. This may then give him a head start when Liverpool are sold..( maybe not unlike what Sullivan and Gould have done at Birmingham and now they have West Ham!!! )He is not at Wolves to do the club any harm, more of a stepping stone to a bigger agenda!!!!!!!
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Oh and if we are now gonna play with two wingers can we please play with a TARGET MAN instead of two midgets please mick.
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I know the Hoff is injured but isnt it about time he had a run out when fit? We spent 2million on the big austrian beanpole but McCarthy clearly doesnt rate him? Im starting to think McCarthy is being over cautious in the transfer market due to previous poor signings. I cant see us signing anyone else in this tansfer window..its like shopping for clothes in the January sales; everythings old and out of date or the wrong size.
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Great blog Mr Lloyd. The frustration around Molineux is palatable. What are we in the Premiership for? To grab parachute payments and fall into the abyss of the Championship?
Either The 3 M’s get some quality in or we all know exactly what is going to happen. Wigan gave us a footballing lesson.
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I’m not the greatest of footballers, but edit a couple of my goals and runs together and stick it on the web and I would probably look a world beater!
Nathan ive seen you play mate…James Cameron couldnt make you look good ;)
i agree blake needs a spell away from the team, we need to put the past performances behind us and move up a gear…every game if we cant we should pack up and go down
the club does need to show ambition with at least one signing of quality and not another bargain basement lucky dip
i will say mick has spent money and on the whole bought better than bad if you way up the value but thats because kites is worth so much now, may be the new kid will be just as good, i hope we have time to find out at this level
as for murphy i hope its danny and the press made a mistake !!!
may be hunt will come, may be we sign a forward, may be we will sign leader with experience and the metal to stop the team from under preforming
and may be after seeing avatar, James Cameron could just pull it off and you Mr Lloyd could be on your way to Red star Belgrade mid summer …as a way of a thank you from all us happy wolves fans
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Lots of maybes….. I know I sound a bit miserable this morning, I’ve had a bad week!
I hope that Mick does prove me wrong and sign a couple of big players before the end of the month.
I’m not sure about blogging in Serbia though, saying that the Marakana is one hell of a stadium. I’ll have to negotiate hard to make sure I’m on the same terms as I am with the Express & Star!
Where have you had the pleasure of seeing me play?
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I know im miserable too, I start to look on the upside more!
And try ignore the bad things, prentend they never happen and act like I dont care!
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where did i see you play? it was on asda car park hoping like many of us to be noticed by taff as he parked his horse and cart next to the club shop.
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Couldn’t have been me, I’m a Waitrose man all the way!
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how you have changed since becoming an express and star executive !!!
waitrose indeed !!!!
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An Express & Star Executive? I’ve done this column free for nearly 3 seasons, so I’m not sure how that helps the coffers.
The missus does the shopping and I pop to Waitrose for the Sunday papers, sounds good though!
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When they said we’d got Mujangi Bia down the Molineux, I thought well at least it can’t be any worse than the Banks’s.
But on closer inspection it looks like we’ve got a little gem of a player. As soon as he’s had a good nights sleep I’m sure he’ll do the business.
Up the flippin’ Wolves!
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Good blog. Whilst I welcome a new signing we need someone with qulaity and experince that will make an immediate impact – this guy is not likely to fit the bill. Muppet’s record of signing foreign players shows they spend more time on the bench than the pitch. Even Milijas took a painfully long time to ‘earn’ a regular slot.
We have had all the spin of not doing a WBA, not making up the numbers, signing tried and tested british players, qulaity & experience etc etc. If this is our only signing then Morgan and the fat controller will have shown there intent and complete lack of ambition – there will be a backlash!!
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Lol
What amuses me is McCarthy has harped on all season about players needing time to adjust to the premiership.. Personally I see that as an excuse and he just doesn’t recognise talent…
But, he then goes and buys a player from Belgium. By the time he has ‘settled’ in and ready for action it will be the 2nd or 3rd week of the championship campiagn next year!
So… why hasnt Zubar been given a good run? he looks OK to me, lots of pace and confidence.. this season is an UTTER joke.
What not bid 5 million for hunt rather than spend 2 million on a player who isnt going to ‘settle’ in in time to make a difference. Hunt is proven at this level.
CLUELESS!!!
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Spot on.
No ambition, No idea!!
I also think we need an experienced and vocal leader on the pitch – Henry isn’t cutting it but Muppet could not cope as it would show him up for the clueless idiot he is.
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Yes that’s right offer £5M for Hunt off the bat then start a bidding war and spend over the odds you seem like a business mastermind.
Nice to see the armchair fans as usual writing him off before he has kicked ball maybe wigan should have left palacios in Honduras nice one kid.
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I don’t care if we stay up by default! Our first aim is survival, however it happens. At the start the season any realistic fan would have taken 17th place. People need to realise we are not as big as we think we are. But be patient, support and give it time we WILL be big again.
Give up Nathan????? Have a word with yourself. We should never give up as supporters and if we do shouldn’t bother attending games or supporting the team.
Yes, I am annoyed by lack of investment, performances and quality purchased. But nothing I can do as its not my job. My job is to support team and if I don’t do that I should be sacked with anyone else not doing their job.
I understand the grandson comment, put if we are prudent and debt free at least he will have a football team to support. Apparently there is only 4 teams which are debt free (Blues, West Brom, Scunthorpe and us) in the football league. So if they all go bust and that puts 2nd in the league by default. Id take that!!! :D
KEEP THE FAITH AND BELIEVE!! UP THE WOLVES
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I said we should give up if we sign Daryl Murphy…. maybe a bit glib, but I’m just worried that the 3 M’s are just crossing their fingers and hoping for survival.
I’ve had a word with myself. Cheers!
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Sorry, but your blog is a joke. Read enough comments by the winners of the Prawn Sandwich award (which we must be well on the way to retaining if they read this site) and then be just like the negative whingers on here, and you think you are a lournalist. Sorry, but this is a joke of a blog.
What have I ever done, you might ask? I write for a website called “yanks-abroad,” and the several writers on there are far more balanced in their views than you will ever be. It seems that all you do is court what you feel public opinion is, and cater to it. Never make waves, and never rock the boat. I remember you telling everyone that Eastwood was a twenty goals a season man in the Championship, and that McCarthy should be able to see that. Who was right? However, the muppets on here expected you to write that and you obliged.
Go on, cut this one, as it doesn’t agree with your every whim, and has at least been thought through, which a lot on here never are.
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and you dont even smell a whiff of irony in your posts on here brereton…
its a football blog, not bloody wikipedia. chill out and put some knickers on.
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Signing a couple of quality players is now essential. There are too may players out of their depth. The new guy may have potential, let’s hope so. Let’s hope too that he proves something out of the ordinary. Mick is ordinary, when it comes down to forging a formula at premier level. Let’s hope he defies his own ordinariness and signs real players appropriate to our needs.
The balance sheet is important, and will become even more so when, in the ensuing months, and next season, clubs actually go to the dogs/bust. There is a psychology, too, at Wolves, based on financial history; as if it stalks the corridors.
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I’ll be there bob wolf,
The season looks like its going to drift and drift if the sounds from the board room is anything to go by.
The way I see it there must be more to this then meets the eye. Morgan must realise that McCarthy is out of his depth. He is a 1 trick pony, no idea on how to manage in the Premiership. We have a championship side, playing players out of position. If we did stop up, the board should still sack him because who wants another season of struggle. His buys in the season have been woeful. But whos to blame,,,, abit early i say in terms of using the word blame as we are not relegated. But I am just disgusted that Moxey & Morgan spouted their bullish claims but not have backed it up with good premiership signing. Did MM give them a wishlist but SM & JM said no too expensive or is it the other way round. MM said what we got to spend and JM & SM said you got £18M to spend plus wages…. Something doesnt add up.
Wolves are lacking 3 players. LEFT BACK, MIDFIELDER & STRIKER. I bet we dont buy any others.
Question Castillo was a waste of a loan? Anyone agree….
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Agree left back NAYLOR,midfield OHARA(wont get Hunt),forward BENNIE MCARTHY or ROBBIE…that would keep us up…..cmon u Wolves
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Nathan Love your blogs I agree Wigan was not good,but not as bad as Birmingham. I know you can’t keep blaming refs but that ref needed to wear glasses not just for us but for wigan as well. Some of his decisions were appalling.(got the Stearman one right and the Wigan Player but that was about it. MM should try Vokes and Doyle think that would be a perfect partnership. Blake may be trying hard but it aint working. I will judge the new signing when i see him play cause apparently he is the bis! hope not like Franskowski (probably spelt wrong) The Hoff injured so he wont play. Hope it not Hennessy in goal he scares the life out of me not been the same since Bobby Mimms left us rather have Hanneman. Please don’t panic Nathan I am convinced we are going to stay up but only just.
If you all think about it too much we would all get depressed and the team need us behind them. Up the Wolves. Come on Nathan try and be positive I know its hard but you can do it I am.
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The fact that every man and his dog are turning a move to wolves down speaks for itself.
Mcarthy will never attempt to sign premiership players cus with premier players comes premier abilities and premier points of view which he does not want to manage……thats one of the reasons we have a team made up of kids from the championship.
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Do you know of a single player who has turned down a move to Wolves this January ?
Hull has refused our offer for Hunt, not the player himself – unless you know something noone else does ? Are you aware of any other confirmed offer ?
Or are you still talking about last summer ?
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alright lads ,i read somewhere that adam johnson turned us down for “personal reasons” not sure how true it is though
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On Adam Johnson, the rumour is that we offered £6.5m which doesn’t meet Boro’s evaluation (of £10m). However, if true, it lays to rest the idea that Morgan will not splash the cash.
There’s also a rumour that Chelsea are now interested, if he fancies warming the bench at a Champions League club.
Finally, there’s a rumour that he has decided to stay put, because in the summer he’s a free agent, which means clubs will be able to give him a huge signing-on fee (instead of paying a transfer fee).
It’s all rumour, and we just don’t know. So ‘every man and his dog’ turns out to be Adam Johnson – possibly.
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I couldn’t have put it better myself Nathan! You have hit the nails on their heads mate. As i have said before what the MMM do not say speaks volumes. What happens about team selection & performance aslo speaks volumes, the signings in the summer and their lack of appearances also speaks volumes, the lack of quality, also speaks volumes. I think every one who comments on here is absolutely fed up with the bull, spin, fine sentiments & half truths emanating from the Molinuex Management. As you pointed out that Moxey was quick to say that the club are financially viable. This implies that once again they will not spend, hence Mujinga Bia, it is a business, that comes first, they are not footballing people but accountants, & until there is a major shift in thinking & policy at Molinuex then once again this club is down make no bones about it!
They are playing right into the hands of the pundits who said at the start of the season that wolves will not last more than one season at this level unless they spend. Even now footbal commentators are stating that wolves need to spend to survive.
For all what has been said and done by us all it appears to have fell on very very deaf ears and closed minds!
I wonder what goes through the minds of MMM when us fans boo the team off and we leave well before the end of the match having paid a lot of hard earned cash to watch a championship team? Have they no empathy, pride or resepect for anyone, only there own ends?
Their lack of speaking publicly to the fans face to face shows they are running scared i think. Why not have an open forum where fans can ask the MMM questions? After all they rely on us more than we rely on them. Without the fans they would be nowt!
Not only do we need quality on the field but also a manager of proven ability.
Sorry Mick thanks for comin!
I love this club but not the controllers.
Its life Jez but not as we know it!
Wolves forever!
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Southwest Wolf – I for one do not leave the ground early or boo the team off; I’m there to support them. Which Wolves ‘controllers’ have you liked?
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good summing up of events this season. Negative it may be but in all honesty thats the way the manager, moxey and morgan have made us feel by their lack of ambition.
Wouldnt suprise me to see the full team tomorrow and the reserves against Liverpool, who knows with muppet Mick.
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I can’t believe some people agree with this utter dross. How does this guy keep getting editorial space? Every realistic fan’s point of view is that we are NOT in the relegation zone. We are NOT in debt. We HAVE had some great moments this season as well as some bad ones. The quality is there (see team that beat Tottenham) it is just motivation that’s not there half the time (see same team that lost to Wigan). No one said this was going to be easy and if we finished 17th this season then as far as I’m concerned it would be a huge success. Stop kidding ourselves. We are not ready to match the big boys on wages and such yet. And as for saying players like Surman lack quality then I have to question whether you actually watch the matches, and the little chance he has been given to prove himself yet. We’ll be fine as long as doom and gloom merchants such as yourself stay away.
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Apart from the gritty spurs perfomance please can you list our great moments???
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Surman, quality? Really?
Why is it doom and gloom to point out that we need some quality signings?
Can you really tell me that the likes of Surman, Halford and the Hoff have made a massive impact at the club.
Blind faith in what Mick is doing won’t get us anywhere.
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Fulham at home.
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Bolton at home; Wigan away!
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fulham, bolton & wigan. Truly fantastic!
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MM comments yesterday ” he’s versatile he can play on the right or the left” we said that about Halford. Jez’s comments ” he is a good prospect with enourmous potential ” so had i jez. We need players who can do it NOW. Do we have any other scouts operating other than
IRISH SCOUT
SUNDERLAND SCOUT
CHEAP SCOUT
ANYONE WITH A CONNECTION TO IRELAND SCOUT
PUTS IN A GOOD SHIFT SCOUT
CANT GETS IN HIS CLUBS 1ST TEAM SCOUT
HE CAN THROW THE BALL MILES SCOUT
HE’S QUICK BUT USELESS WITH THE BALL SCOUT
MAY I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING
HE CAN KICK THE BALL WITH BOTH FEET SCOUT
UP THE WOLVES COME ON MM I KNOW ITS HARD BUT PLEASE JUST ONE OF PROVEN PLAYER OF PROVEN QUALITY
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People on here are totally clueless spouting off about the January transfer window. Name the Premiership clubs that have actually done any good business…. none is the answer.
There are going to be very few top drawer players available and no club will be getting rid until they have a replacement in place. Therefore all the deals will be done at the back end of next week. Wolves have obviously tried to prise Hunt and paper talk links us with players like Beattie but there is no truth in it.
We need to sign and I believe we will sign at least a couple of players but the quality of player for any club in the window will be questionable.
In the mean time this Bia has pace and is not frightened to shoot and in my opinion he cannot be worse than Foley or Halford in the midfield area!
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Tell me this then,
How many other teams in the premiership are playing with a championship team?
1 or 2 at tops!
We need to sign players, most other teams dont or signed a lot last summer!
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The three beneath us!
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In answer to another pointless response, the 6 or 7 teams around us.
Now jog on!
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You must be the biggest happy clapper around, who must be pleased with what we’re going in the Premiership.
Why don’t you support your local team in Birmingham? You’ve even got a choice of two clubs!
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I will be at St Andrews Coco and Krusty in two weeks time in the away end unlike you couple of spanners who will be in the safety of the pub or your house watching it on Sky!
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Good for you. I went to Tranmere, but you don’t see me bragging about it do you?
I went there in the FA Cup and the league last season. Just because you can fork out a mere £20 to watch wolves at St Andrews.. what’s the big deal? Maybe some of us have had enough of going to that dump?
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Stay in Brum you really are a Idiot,
You are one of the Happy clapping love failure type of fan.
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Everyone is entitled to there opinion positive or negative! The quetion is can you back yours up?
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The problem I have with some of you posters is that you are the same ones that wanted McCarthy sacked last season when we were top of the Championship, the same ones who pointed out that Fredday was the twenty goal a season man, and that anyone with half a brain could see that, the same ones who were thrilled when McCarthy won us the Championship, the same ones that felt that this season was down just to surviving, the same ones that cannot see that McCarthy has achieved everything he said he would. If I am a happy clapper, you lot must be preening yourselves that all of your predictions of doom and gloom and your footballing knowledge have been so wonderfully proven beyond doubt. (That is sarcasm, not praise by the way.)
No wonder our “fans” were the runaway winners of the prestigious “Prawn Sandwich award.”
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Rob, in my opinion i think the so called bids for hunt, beattie and johnstone are just to appease us fans. AS though stoke or hull are going to sell to their relegation rivals, its just a smoke screen to say to the fans well we did try to get top quality players but the clubs would,nt sell, if mick was that keen on hunt he would have persued him in the summer, i hope i,m wrong Rob and we do bring in a couple of quality players but we know what moxy,s like with the purse strings.. UTW
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Nathan, great blog.I also agree with Noisy and Malta.If we want to stay in the Premiership, we have to buy in quality players in the transfer window, and there’s barely a week left.At the moment, we are a Championship club playing in a higher division, and from what I’ve seen this season, there are at least 4 Championship clubs who’d make as good, if not better a fist of it than us.
We urgently need creative players to augment Milijas, and the ones we need are a proven Premiership winger and similar midfielder, to provide our only striker worth the name with scoring chances. And Doyle ( for it is he, forget the others) needs another Premiership striker to assist him in scoring goals, because if we don’t score more goals than we are doing, we’re down anyway.It’s crucial that we buy someone who can change a game and carve out opportunities for the team.
Any two of Hunt/Adam Johnson, Beattie and O’Hara would seriously galvanise this club. And if Mujangi Bia finds himself the only addition to the squad, God help him. Woe betide him, if he has a bad first game in a losing Wolves side, and the Molineux “faithful” get at him, in their usual misplaced anger at the manager.He’ll rue the day he ever chose to come into English football. Or am I being unfair ? Not really, I’ll leave that to the boo-boys.
We have to spend proper money, NOW, on proven Premiership players. We have the commitment, now we need the class.
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SORRY FORGOT A FEW OF OUR OTHER SCOUTS
HE PLAYS IN DEFENCE BUT WOULD LOOK GOOD IN OUR MIDFIELD SCOUT
HE IS A CENTRE HALF BUT WOULD BE GREAT AT RIGHT BACK SCOUT
HE IS A LEFT BACK BUT WOULD PLAY WELL AT CENTE HALF SCOUT
HE PLAY FOR IS COUNTRY AND LOOK GREAT ON YOU TUBE SCOUT
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WE ARE A pathetic club, WITH pathetic ambition AND A pathetic manager! why not just say to hull “we want hunt here is £5mil take it or leave it today” i mean really, how do we work out that hunts a £3million pound player but adam johnson is £6.5million!??
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Glen – If you think our club is pathetic please pack your bags now, we don’t need you. Believe everything you read in the papers? Some people will not be happy until the club is taken back to the depths of 1985; oh forgot, you weren’t around!
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“We are a pathetic club” ?
If you’re going to use the first person plural then you’re including yourself and every Wolves fan in that assessment.
If that’s what you believe, then please go away. Your ‘support’ isn’t helpful.
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I love the Hoff!
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Your on your own on that one.
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Why is evryone questioning mccarthys signing , look at jarvis ?? hasnt set the world on fire at all but we still only picked him up for something like 500,000 grom gilligham 2 leagues below us at the time ??….
Also if taff has recomened him to mccarthy well then we are in for a a treat … Oh yes i would love to get prem experiecnce in , the same people that will leave us if we go down ?? ..
i dont want any old timers coiming to my club thankyou very much , if they have prem experience why arent there repsective teams playing them to settle the ship down or whne they need a old hean on the park ?? …. Oh yes thats because they are ?? …
somebody can show me a player with prem experience that would contribute to our footballing side , full of strong young men who will run all day then i will apologise …
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Correct me if I’m wrong (please do) but thinking about our last foray into the top tier.
Did we not have “Prem proven” players then?
Let’s see….
Irwin Loads of games for Man U.
Ince As above.
Iversen Spurs veteran.
Kennedy Played for Liverpool?
Luzhny Well maybe just.
Cort Newcastle wasn’t it?
Yes, these players were all with us because their club had already had their best years.
Thing is though they all had PREM EXPERIENCE didn’t they?
Now then, how did we get on with these prem experienced players in the side? Oh yes that’s right, relegated on 33 points.
Prem experienced players in our range on the market are similar to the above. If you want the really good players that will instantly make a difference then you will have to pay top dollar and top wages for them. Players like Hunt,O’Hara,Beattie for example.
Maybe next year IF we stay up but right now we will not attract these types of players because of where we are in the league, and being a new club to this league.
Please don’t get me wrong, I want to see some decent prem quality players in our shirt too! The only thing is I very much doubt we will be able to get them, at least not this season anyway, in the event we do stay up that is. Why? Simple and we all know it too. They will cost us too much money and most likely (maybe Hunt excepted) will come with the big I am attitude.
Does anyone agree or have I got it spectacularly wrong?
Wolves Till I Die
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By the way Jack, that wasn’t a dig at all. I just thought I’d continue your very appropriate theme.
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Luzhny played 75 times for Arsenal.
I think your point is very well made – but when people say ‘Premiership experience’ I suspect they’re just using it as code for expensive, top-drawer players. For example, if we paid £10m for Aidan McGeady, I don’t think anyone would complain.
Jones was denied the funds and could only afford little known imports(Camara) and has-beens (Iversen, Luzhny). McCarthy has spent more, but he only really splashed out on one individual, Doyle.
The talk pre-season from Morgan and Moxey was that we would invest to compete. Without 2 or 3 players in the £5m-£10m bracket, it doesn’t feel like they’ve delivered.
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Bob ?olf – I will be there has I am on the tkt scheme and have it delivered.
Oh by the way – you are still a PRAT!
All you “fans” on about square pegs in round holes really need to learn more about the team that you supposadly “support”, a lot of the players can play in more than one position has in the case of the new signing, it’s not like the good old day’s when a player wearing the number 11 shirt was an outside left etc, now he can be a midfielder or defender! has I said before you really need to learn about your team?
Gorden Strachen (have I spelt that right?)put the block on johnson – re boro web site, hull have said hunt is not for sale – is this MMs fault? seems it is eh according to some of you lot.
Yes we need prem players – but – they won’t come while we are struggling and those that will want extortionate wages – wages that could turn us into another portsmouth.
See you Saturday & Tuesday.
We are Wolves…………
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Well said johnwolf; as stated earlier, some people will not be happy until they have returned our club to the depths of 1985.
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Matt – not to be picky, but I think 1986 was worse… :-)
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billyquietwolf – we dont have to pay him in money, we can give him fruit and veg scout
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WHAT ABOUT…..
HE AYE MUCH GOOD BUT HIS MRS IS FIT SCOUT
OR
HE COULD PLAY AT MAN U AWAY SCOUT
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How about the Rich5wolves -THAT 5 is my IQ scout?
How about the Billyquietwolf -I AM NOT NAMED AFTER THE STAND, BUT I AM QUIET BECAUSE I NEVER GO SCOUT?
Get real. The bids have been made, and the clubs don’t want their better players to go to their competitors.
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Why we cant play 2 games in a week scout, why should we play the same team twice in a row scout and why are my substitutions so bizarre scout!
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nice column with some good points.
Unfortunately MM has a track record of buying in quantity rather than quality, look what he did at Sunderland!. He will argue that he had no money to spend there but that is not true here at wolves. If we get relegated it will be down to the players he has brought in.Most of them cant get in the first team, and have made little or no impact.I agree that we do need a big signing to lift the fans, someone we have heard of? I’ve never heard of Geoffrey Bia, and at 20 i think hes maybe one for the future, and possibly another that will struggle to make any impact but he has pace so lets Hope I’m proven wrong. I would play SEB tommorow with Uwelumo see if they can get a goal, mancienne in midfield,bia on the wings, with Jarvis
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Unforunately over the past 20 years Wolves have slipped into the realms of being one of the bigger Championship clubs…not a prem club.
There is not an over night fix. We just have to wait, slog it out and hope we re-establish ourselves. Until then we can pitch in for players but most won’t come to us.
But Geoffrey could be anything. Let’s hope he surprises and is given a chance by manager and fans alike (He looks a bit like Camara in his style…how many had heard of him when he signed for us?).
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29- simple really- hunt is 28? johnson is 23? if you want pathetic-look in the mirror.
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I agree with you johnwolf, Mr Pathetic should go support another club if he’s feeling so down in the dumps.
The valuations specualted for these players are purely made up by the press, agents and media. Dont believe everything you read in your ‘Daily Sport Newspaper’!!!
Thanks for your positive comments glen!
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How many people here have a magic wand and money they wish to throw away.
The days of the large debts are fading and teams cannot do business like that ifthey are to survive.
Yes its great to be in the Prem but not at the cost of losing the club financially.
If Munjani is prepared to give his all we will back him, he cannot be judged until he has had a good run in the team.
Stick with the boys and if you cannot go support someone else, we may go down but it hasn’t happened yet and in the end we may stay up as the best of the bad lot at the bottom, so what that will mean Prem footy again.
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I can only pass it back and sideways and i can’t shoot scout.
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john wolf – hunt has been there and done it in the prem for years and links up well with doyle (proven fact)…..therefore my opinion is he is worth a lot more to us than johnson.
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I have just seen Karl Henry pass the ball forwards to Jarvis who then hit a defence splitting corss to Ebanks blake who scored a screamer!!!!!.
but that was on fifa …. and Mad Mick was playing it. Must be where he makes all his decisions.
He couldnt find Geoffrey Mujangi Bia on Fifa, but found him on u-tube.
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Hooray, were not in debt. Makes for fantastic memories!
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I think away at Barnsley last year was a fantastic memory. Or are you expecting us to win the Premier League ?
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Is everyone conveniently forgetting that the higher a team finishes in the PL, the more revenue is earned by a the club! Finish in the bottom 3 and all you get are snippets from the PL and 2 years parachute payments with the possibility of gaining promotion in a years time – is this what Wolves fans want?
Personally I want Wolves to display some ambition with their player signings, splash the cash on a few quality type players and bring us PL safety by our own efforts and not because we are bad and others are even worse!
I agree with Nathan that Wolves signing an unknown player even on loan is NOT the way to remain in the Premier League and having accounts that show we are in the black impresses no one except accountants!
There is little point in being stable but being stagnant at the same time which is what Wolves have become over the years!
If Steve Morgan really has got his heart and soul into Wolves then lets see exactly how much because to date we have been buying players from Poundstretcher instead of Marks and Spencer. I do not expect us to buy players from Harrods or Selfridges although in the future that would be excellent news but to penny pinch, which is the reputation Wolves seem to have in football, will not get us anywhere.
I hope McCarthy and co use the remaining days to bring in 2 or even 3 EXPERIENCED PL players to keep us in the PL, for if not the unthinkable could become a reality!
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We all want quality players, but name names. Be realistic, and give us names that will firstly be released by their club, secondly are any good, and thirdly will want to come to a newly promoted club? Don’t you see how difficult this is?
We could make offers for Gerrard, Fabregas and Ronalo, but would they come? The same problems I see are surely what the three M’s are facing.
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Like anything its never that easy, spend big on one proven prem player, he gets injured and everyone’s moaning about all our eggs in one basket, never mind upsetting the wage structure and therefore other players. Spread your risk and buy in a few promising but unproven players and everyone’s up in arms about lack of proven quality. Hiding to nothing.
Also is there anything wrong with staying debt free and having a financially well run club? I don’t think so if the alternative is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy every couple of years.
That said if I was Mr Morgan the thought of playing in the championship next season would send shivers down my spine and I’d make some funds available, not to invest, just money to wave good bye to, footballs not all about profits.
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Totally agree with everything you have said Nathan.Moxey goes on about the club being debt free etc etc ,so what! I want to go to Molineux to be entertained not watch Karl Henry kick a ball sideways all game.Quality players should have been bought before the season started not now.Morgan and Moxey have no intention of giving MM the sort of money to attract the type of players we need.Look at what Stoke ,Blues etc have managed to achieve.The people running our club are not fit for purpose.
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So Morgan’s not ‘fit for purpose’ ?
If I remember correctly, when Jack Hayward was selling the club there wasn’t exactly a queue of billionaires around the block, was there ?
What you want is someone to come in – and I’m sure you have no idea who that might be – to spend tens of millions on the club, so that you feel entertained.
Not asking for much, eh ?
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The main thing for me is the lack of quality we have in our side, I thought we would of signed 3 or 4 tried and tested (as Moxey said) premierleague players in the summer giving our side the quality and expirience needed for the premiership. For some reason It seems to me that we can’t atract these players to our club. We havn’t signed one single premiership player this season, only signing championship and unproven foreign players. Why did we decide to go for squad players?. Another thing is that Mick Mccarthy still doesnt know what our first team is, where Birmingham,Burnley who came to the premierleague with weaker sides and the majority of other premiership teams field 11 players that you can prodict nearly every week. Thers not going to be consistency in a side that gets changed every week. I don’t think Mick was right in his decision to rest 10 players against Man U I think it discraced the club and the fans Mick should of apologized to the fans as O’neil did when Villa did a similar thing in Europe, if a profesional footballer can’t play two games a week then there’s something wrong.
This season our main target is survival we have set our set ourselves a platform to build from in the January transfer window we need to get around 22 points from our next 17 games. Can we achieve that? I think it will be very hard as i can’t see us getting results against the top 4 clubs who are all pushing for the premierleague and europe and will see us as 3 points. If you take that in to consideration that leaves us with 13 games to achieve the minimal of 22 points. will our team as current be able to produce the preformances needed to ensure our clubs survival.
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Most of the transfers in the Jan window are done on the last day of the transfer window.
If we stop up this season it is a result. We can build next season, our team is young and will get better.
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I do no disagree with a word that you have said, most of us will agree that you are correct in this comment on the state of play at Wolves.
I really do not care about the Cup against Palace, the way they are playing they will clean us up on Saturday, or at least draw and thrash us at Selhurst Park
They have a striker in Darren Ambrose who I wish was on Wolves books, a very dangerous player.
Lets hope there is a god, and Wolves come up with at least one and hopfully two experienced players , on loan will do, But there is not much time left, and if we elect to ride out the rest of the Seaso without a decent signing, then we are finished….you know it, the supporters know it, and the Wolves Management know it.
I fear that Mr Morgan only has eyes for the team he loved as a boy, and through Wolves as a stepping stone, will succeed in his goal.
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Angry….hadn’t thought of Wolves as a stepping stone for him but thats a damned good point.
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I often read the comments on this site but have never commented myself, but im sick to death with all the negativity on here from you supposed supporters!!!! if its that bad then why do you still go to the games every week???? Just go and support somebody else and stop moaning! Any of you with a little bit of sense would understand how hard it is to sign proven top quality players in the january window for top clubs let alone clubs at the wrong end of the table and the value of these players is insane! i mean kenwyn jones is apparently worh 14 million??????? Dont think so. So why dont we just have a bit of faith in what mick and the boys are doing and see what happens at the end of the season. i will be there as always supporting MY WONDERFUL CLUB no matter what!!!! UP THE WOLVES!! IN MICK WE(well i) TRUST!!
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Lee, you just bury your head in the sand and leave the grown-ups to debate what we think is best for the club.
Its not moaning, its debate. We are discussing what we think the club needs.
“So why dont we just have a bit of faith in what mick and the boys are doing and see what happens at the end of the season”
See what happens? Did you see what happened against Wigan?
Wind your neck in.
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Ha Ha ha. What a joker you are cpt-wolves. You lot? Grown up? Don’t make me laugh. You don’t live in the real world.
You think Wolves just go along, make an offer for a player that his current owner wants to keep, they say. “Okay, if you want him, he’s yours.” He says, “Oh Wolves? Where do I sign please?” We get him in a day, and he is prolific from day one.
WOW!! I didn’t realise it was that easy. I WISH I WAS A MAN LIKE WHAT YOU ARE!!
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So adult debate consists of telling people you disagree with to wind their neck in, does it ?
And adult debate includes spouting playground insults at McCarthy, Moxey and Morgan – and each other ?
Sadly, I’m afraid there’s very little real debate here.
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Absolute drivel Nathan. Saying what all the dour morons on here are thinking. Pathetic.
Get a grip, grow a pair, and get behind your team.
Yes we all want to stay in the premiership but why don’t you and everyone else look at it this way:
We’re past the half way mark and we’re 17th.
nine days left in the transfer window.
Ever thought why we seem to perform better away from home? Because the away following are true fans who get behind their team no matter what and don’t put pressure on and breed anxiety into the players.
MOANING AND GROANING DOES NOT HELP.
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Laurence, we can all get the gold tinted glasses on and pretend that everything is rosy. Personally I’m worried that we are going to fall short of survival and thats hopefully reflected in the blog.
Like yourself, I just want whats best for the club and although we maybe be out of the relegation zone, it is only on goal difference.
Dour morons? Or just worried fans?
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Don’t gold tinted glasses make all things goldy. I ware them all the time.
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Jesus Laurence,
that time of the month again for you is it?
All Nathan states is the truth!
I like your logic, past half way mark and we are 17th, next week we could be 19th, then what?
Sign some quality mick!
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No, Dour morons.
It was the same last year when we were on the road to promotion and still people weren’t happy. If we’re 17th on goal difference in may then i, for one, won’t be complaining.
Yes, Mick makes some stupid decisions in terms of squad selection, i’m not disputing that.
Yes, we need a big name signing to boost moral and boost us up the table.
What we don’t need is moaning, groaning, fickle fans spreading their pessimistic vibes around the club.
I’m not ‘getting my gold-tinted glasses on and pretending everything is rosy’, nor happy clapping, simply getting behind my team and trying to keep positive in a bid to help the club’s strive for premiership survival.
Obviously there comes a time when you have to voice your discontent, we’re entitled to it as the people who keep the club running, but i don’t belive that time is now.
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Well said Laurence.
The last time our loyal blogger spoke with this tone it was to say McCarthy should be sacked as he’d never get us promoted…..
I dont know if its case of not liking McCarthy, or if its just message board provoking dribble.
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Mate, if you think that Taf Evans, the man who successfully scouted Kightly and got him to Wolves for £20,000, watches you tube and recommends MM sign a player off the back of that then you are a bigger idiot than this article makes you look and thats pretty stupid. Hope you don’t get paid for this rubbish.
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A young and hungry policy is all well and good but it needs combining with an “older & wiser” policy. If not the Club will go down AGAIN. I am sure we will get back but will we persue the same again FOR THE THIRD TIME!!!!???????
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Nathan, I found your blog disappointingly negative and it only gives ammunition to the negative posters who constantly infest this site.
The January window is even slower this year than it normally is and I’m pretty certain Wolves have still got a few irons in the fire. Yes, there have been one or two medium profile transfers gone through, but, the chain reaction that usually happens in the last few days is maybe about to happen.
Mark my words the Steven Hunt saga is not yet over. It could be that we might not get him, but, I’d have thought we must be one of the favourites….and Hull MUST reduce that top six wage bill.
Most ridiculous offer of the window so far (if you can believe the scribes) West Ham £100m in debt offering Ruud van Nostrilhairs (thank you Paul Whitehouse) £100,000 a week.
I do hope Mujangi hasn’t found the E&S site, and if he has I hope is English is poor. Some of the postings are appalling !
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We are going down. We have an average championship side and a board with absolutely no ambition. Mick wasted £20 million on a bunch of average players in the summer.
Palace will beat us and so will Liverpool and then lets see the fans like Laurence and Lee come out and be positive then!
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WEll SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ron the Sandwell fan…. an average Championship team that one the league by 7 points as for the rest lets see come May…cmon wolves from all true fans dont think Ron will be there tommorow somehow…
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Ron you’re a disgrace mate, the club could do without fans such as yourself. Go and support birmingham, do as their fans do, and leave when the going gets tough.
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******* note to mick ********
play the team in position and with a positive starting line up and we will proberly win !!
it dont take a genius mick really…
play wingers on the wing and we might give seb some service to miss two score one !
play defenders to do there jobs and defend mark players out the game. (pref zubar)
Play midfielders that do differnt jobs on the pitch, Henry def mid, Milijas playmaker. (442 diamond)
play doyle upfront, with seb if he struggles take him off at half time. SIMPLES
Also from what ive seen on youtube of this winger, he could be the real deal so give him plenty of the ball V PALACE and lets see what he can do before terry connor trains it out of him lol
for meerkats go to comparethe meerkat.com
for staying in the prem go to commonsense.com
SIMPLES ! ! !
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Absolutely spot on Nathan I think what you said reflects the majority of what realist Wolves fans think.I think what spells it out for me is the attitude of the people running the club”Steve Morgan said it wouldnt be a disaster if we went down” contrast this with David Golds recent quote about West Ham “It would be a complete disaster if we were to get relegated” says it all really our best chance of establishing ourselves in the Premier and the Chairman doesnt seem bothered.
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It should of been the case of,
“thanks for getting us up Mick, but we will be going into the Premier league without you and Clipbaord Connor.Thanks for all you have done.
Harsh but Fair.
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I regret to say, it is fans such as Lawrence and Lee who are the problem.Moxey and Morgan know full well that 20,000 plus fans will be at Molineux whether we are in this division or League 1.That is all they are interested in : to make sure the club does not lose money,end of story.What happens on the pitch is of minor importance.Just look at who we have bought since we were promoted.Apart from Doyle they are hopeless! Players who it was obvious would not be good enough last season have been kept on for the sole reason their wage level was acceptable to the management.Compare our record over the last few seasons to Stoke, Blues ,Wigan etc and it is poor.Are you honestly happy with that?
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Robert Perry – I’m pleased to be out of the relegation zone and have a club I support in the Prem. Do you realy think Morgan has put £30Million in to the club to make sure we don’t lose money! They’re trying to make sure we are not playing in a run down ground in front of 3,000 fans; wasn’t that 1986?
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As I have said many times on here. NAME NAMES of REALISTIC TARGETS. Where are they? If they come and don’t work out from day one, do you promise not to knock them? (Thought not.)
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So, presumably you’re saying that if we get relegated, you and your type of ‘fan’ won’t be at Molineux ? Oh well, silver lining and all that…
And you think Milijas, Hahnemann and Zubar are hopeless ? I doubt that’s a majority verdict.
As for your ‘Compare our record’, I think you’re being a little selective, aren’t you ?
I notice that you don’t want to compare us with the 2 teams we got relegated with last time (Leicester and Leeds). Nor do you compare us with Charlton, Norwich or Southampton – or Portsmouth, or the Tescos, come to that.
Overall, we’re better off than when Mick (and Morgan) arrived. If and when that changes, something will need to be done.
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Bully Nine, A very comprehensive reply.But I think you had better qualify that bit about understanding a bank balance.Didn’t you say you used to be a Bank Manager?
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On the whole the players aren’t the problem, although a few are just not prem quality. The real problem has been Mick’s tactics:
- At the start of the season he wanted to play with two wingers but denied them room to run at defences by narrowing the pitch
- He bought in Halford to throw the ball long… to who?…neither Doyle nor SEB are target men
- He bought in the Hoff, the tallest player in the prem, but he can’t jump and for someone his size is very poor in the air
- He bought some quality players like Zubar and Castillo but have not given them a go
- He waved the whiteflag at old trafford (unforgivable)
- He took jarvis off instead of SEB when we went down to 10 men against wigan
- He plays far too many players our of position and therefore the team lacks balance
- It has taken him far too long to realise that Milijas has to play every game
- He only knows 4-4-2 and gets done over by teams with 5 in midfield, there simply is no plan b
- He made too many ‘squad’ signings in the summer
I saw wolves play in perth in pre-season and even for a pre-season game we were awful. Honestly we have rarely played better than that Perth game all season.
Understand that it has been tough being without Kightly but that just demonstrates even moreso Mick’s inability at this level. I actually think we have some good players and if we can add just one or two in Jan and replace Mick with a manager who is not so one dimensional tactically we stand a chance of finishing 16th or 17th.
Let’s hope we smash palace and more importantly get three points against crazy reina!!!
“he’s got more class than fabregas, NENAD MILIJAS!!!”
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Apart from all that he,s ok.
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So Geoffrey Mujangi Bia looks good on YouTube eh. Brilliant.
Is this our signing policy now? If they are cheap, or a loan signing and have a two minute highlight of their career on the internet they are good enough for us?
When will the three M’s realise we are premier league and if we wish to stay there we need to sign premier league quality or experience and most importantly pay premier league wages IF we have any ambition to stay there, which for all the bluster from the 3 M’s at the end of last season, we don’t.
Stoke have bid for Real Madrid striker Ruud van Nistelrooy.
Birmingham City’s move for Ryan Babel appears to moving closer.
We go for an unheard off loan player only seen on YouTube, who I have no doubt will be on peanuts.
We’re obviously treating the premiership the same way Mick treated the Man Utd game and saving our money (and Morgan’s) for the big promotion push from the championship.
Morgan – show some real ambition or clear off with the 2 other clueless spineless and gutless individuals Moxy and McCarthy.
Feel cheated by the club – again!
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I’m going to reserve judgment on the loan signing, but got to say, I bet the opposition are dreading coming up against a Belgian international!!
Same as most things at this club (merchandise, hospitality, ideas) everything is done on the cheap.
Where is the mute chairman when we need a bit of encouragement? Probably choosing new carpet for his box at Anfield.
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Bullynine – Morgan showed real ambition by taking the club on and putting £30Million into the club’s bank balance immediately; not just under writing debt. Then got us into the Prem within two years! Best owner for the last 30 years for me or would you like the Bhati’s back?
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Matt, wasting your time. His first question will be, “Who are the Bhatti’s?” Second question will be, “What is a bank balance? We don’t have those on Football Manager.” Third question, “Why haven’t we signed Fabregas. Give arsenal 100 Million, and they will give us him straight away.”
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Breretonwolf2008,Are you jezs pr man.constantly talking about finances.
Yes i remember the Bhatti’s the hard years that followed and certainly would not welcome the return to those days.By the way i was a season ticket holder and regular away fan throughout those years.28 consecutive seasons until i relocated.
However in footballing terms we will never have a better chance to keep our premiership status and the rewards that go with it.
We do not want/need to spend 25/30 million but 2/3 quality signings could make all the difference as to where we start our fixtures 2010.
I for one would rather Liverpool as the first game rather than Doncaster Rovers.
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So my first question will be “Who are the Bhatti’s
Been a season ticket holder since 1969 so well aware of Wolves history!
And my next question is: What’s a bank balance: I used to be a bank manager!
Intelligent stuff!
Morgan has done a good deal, for himself!
He has contributed little, especially financially and will constantly have one eye on Anfield
As stated in the (excellent) article: “we may have finished that season relegated, but I tell you what, the books balanced”.
Says it all about the 3M’s
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Why do you make ludicrous and untrue accusations, and then use them to pillory the management ?
Taff Evans has been tracking the lad for many months, and has watched him many times. McCarthy specifically said so on Sky. Or do you think he’s lying ?
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Maltawolf, I am an accountant, and know the perils of overtrading. I look at other teams like Portsmouth, Leeds, Bradford, Bournemouth, Southampton, etc, and I am pleased that we are trying to do things in a planned way, trying to bring in players that can produce results over a longer term. Some of them will not be good enough, but that is the case wherever you look. Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger are rightly held up as great examples of football managers, but have bought players over the years that did not achieve what they were bought for. Veron, Djemba Djemba, Nani, Tosic, Anderson have not been all that was hoped for, but no-one questions SAF over his purchases. That is with massive input.
We have to live within a budget at home, and football teams are no different.
Bullynine, Morgan has contributed little financially? He put thirty million pounds into the club at the time he bought it. That was hard cash, and not paper money with merely a journal entry to the Balance Sheet. Sir Jack insisted on that happening as a parting gift to the club he loves, and still got grief from many on here.
I would love more players to come in during the window. Not the type that will come in for one last pay-day though, and who will need to be replaced in another year or two.
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Brereton, a typical very boring accountant,Exactly where as you put it did Morgan put the 30 million?
Where exactly has the season ticket money gone,The sales from the club shops(one of the best supported in the country i am led to believe)
The revenue from Sky (And yes i do know it is paid in phases).
The 2 million from Everton for Lescott, The income from the sale of the other players 2 many to mention but Mark Davies being one of them.
I will say it again we do not need to break the bank to survive but without some quality additions then relegation and all the LOSSES it brings will surely be the outcome.
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Matt ,how much of that£30 million has he actually spent? Morgan has done very well out of this.He inherited a debt free club( Sir Jack wrote off the money due to him)and the Sky millions are pouring in.Contrast that with the position say at West Ham where Sullivan has inherited a debt laden club and yet they still trying to bring in players. I therefore totally disagree that Morgan has shown any ambition at all.Dont forget he is a Liverpool supporter who once tried to buy them and is now heavily involved with running Redrow. Is he really devoting the time that is necessary to run a premiership football club?
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Robert Perry – Can you name the other people queuing up to take on Wolves after Jack said he would give it back in 2003. You compare the ownership of West Ham where Sullivan is again under writing thier debt not paying it off. I want our club to be around in years to come; too many of you have short memories. Morgan has proved with Redrow and other businesses he builds long term success, and even when he has sold the business he has retained some shares in it; loyalty and responsibility. The recent purchase of Peel House in WOLVERHAMPTON not Liverpool shows ambition. Have you been to Fratton Park recently, Bilston Town would turn it down and they’ve been playing at Bantock Park!
So Robert, back to my original question, who else offered to take on Wolves?
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Did you also see that the erstwhile Birmingham owner stated today that West Ham are a bigger club than Birmingham. Of course he has only the interests of the club at heart. (Or … did he give a clue to his real motives in selling Birmingham to move on to West Ham.) (A clue for you …… It may have been financial rather than for the love of West Ham.)
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Based on the Mighty Muppet’s brilliant player buying skills, I’m sure our new man will be equally as effective as super Halford. He’ll probably start him off in goal!
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Why do you lot bother debating? At the end of this january transfer window we will have at best, a kid from Belgium who can’t even get in the side over there and a striker from a lower league side.
Face it, Steve Morgan is happy for this club to be a yo-yo club if it keeps his bank balance looking good. But look at teams like Sheff Wednesday, Leeds, Forest, Sheff Utd…. there is no guarantee that we will bounce straight back up, it took us 5 years the last time.
The only good thing that will come out of relegation is that Mick and clipboard Tezza will leave and we can get a manager in who buys players because he has ambition and not because they are young and have a decent resale value.
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Nick The Nugget – Thanks for your positive thoughts. One positive IF we get relegated is we may lose some Prem Glory Boy moaners!
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I must have missed something here. When DID we get relegated please?
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Nick I agree with you, but with Morgan and Moxey holding the purse strings I just cant see us attracting a decent manager.
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Some fans are obviously content in blundering along with a championship level side sticking their fingers in their ears, hand over their eyes and hand over their mouth…. The real people who care are those you actually put a constructive argument up about who we need to sign and what direction the club needs to go in.
All you idiots who keep telling themselves to stop moaning need to get a grip.
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Name the players we can realistically buy from Premiership teams this Transfer Window who will make a difference to us staying up, if you think we are not going to?
So far the names mentioned are:
Beattie – So far trhis season has scored two goals. Stoke will not let him leave, as he is in their squad week after week. Has an apprent attitude problem.
Hunt – Hull will not want to sell him to a relegation rival. Only a huge offer will probably tempt them. How much would you realistically pay? More than has supposedly been offered? Is he REALLY worth more?
Johnson – Wants to see his contract out, and then take all of the funds from his Bosman move to a top six team. Natural left-footers bring balance, and he will be much sought after.
Gardner – Life long Blues fan, as are his family. Untried really at Prem level, and has a history of injuries. Is he really worth a punt after a long lay-off this time? Will he be the same player as before the injury?
Robbie Keane – Come on now. The signing on fee would be way up there, and he is on megabucks. Tottenham don’t seem in a hurry to offload him anyway.
Reo-Coker – Would be a good signing, but with Gardner gone will Martin O’Neill let him go without a fight. (I would love to see him sign for us, but just can’t see it happening.)
Other players linked such as Ledley, Killgallon, Beckford, McGinn, etc have no Prem experience.
Like I said earlier, please name names for players who:
Would be released.
Are better than what we have.
Would be realistically priced.
Would have “Premiership Experience.”
Who would be willing to move to a newly promoted club involved in the relegation zone, as is usual with such teams.
I am waiting.
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The 3 M’s – I agree with your point with regard to constructive argument (debate) about who we should sign but for people to have a go at Morgan is a joke; no has answered my question of who else was queuing up to take over the club when Jack offered it for nothing in 2003.
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Many of the comments on this blog mirror those which would have been on the Albion blog at this time last year. The owner and directors of both clubs steadfastly refuse to live beyond and supporters who had been euphoric about promotion a few months before suddenly have to face the fact that our teams can’t compete. You look at Birmingham a club of similar size to the Wolves and Albion and they have taken a different view. Barry Ferguson and Lee Bowyer , two players who would have given the Wolves the experience and quality they lack but it’s probably fair to assume that neither the Wolves or Baggies would pay the wages they can command. The way you run a football club is a difficult call. It’s come off for the Blues but clubs like Portsmouth and Hull are in big trouble and even United and Liverpool have unsustainable debt levels. I don’t think Mr Morgan would take over the liabilities of Liverpool and though a rich man probably could not afford to , so I think you are being a bit unfair on him when it is suggested that he is using Wolves as a stepping stone.
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Matt, Graham Souness for one and as things are turning out I think he would have made a better fist of it.If you are happy with our current situation and the fact Morgan has purchased Peel House ,then fair enough.As I have said before he is a good businessman who knows alot about property but IMHO knows very little about football(did he say we should be midtable?) But on the topic of West Ham they are trying to sign Benni Mccarthy from Blackburn can you see us trying to sign similar players?
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Robert, The money man with Souness was Brian Kennedy and according to their fans he has let down Stockport County big time. I personally don’t think we could have done much better ,in realistic terms ,than Steve Morgan.But like you I am edgy about the Liverpool connection.They got the strategy wrong in the summer and I suspect Morgan is fully aware of that now.
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Robert, if we signed Benni McCarthy I can write the comments on him for you right now. “Once again we scrape the Premiership Barrel. We buy a has-been who ay even good enough for a rubbish team like Blackburn. If he ay good enough for them he ay good enough for us. Once again, the Muppet has sold us short.”
Come on, you know i am right.
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So you would have prefered Brain Kennedy’s money and ambition; get yourself upi to Stockport County, I hear they are doing real well!
Get real Robert and come up with proper answers with real facts.
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yeah i’ve been on here and countless other boards going off on one, like a crazed pre-menstrual banshee making a complete prat of myself… dont know how simply supporting a football club can do that to a person, but it does. and no doubt it will again.
being negative however doesnt get the club anywhere, and it certainly doesnt get any of us anywhere either.. until the window actually closes none of us should be beating our chests, and, come what may we will all be here supporting the Wolves next season. Whatever division.
That said, i do think the Wolves PR machine needs to be more careful about what they feed us Wolves fans… we will take any scrap of hope and run with it. Morgan mustn’t for eg haphazardly mention that we’re not here to make up the numbers, Mick n Moxey stating we’re gunning for lots of premiership experience, even Bully giving us a “5 years path to Glory” hit…
lets stay grounded, and 3Ms I just hope you are doing everything in your power to do whats best for this club.
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Just need Beattie and hunt/johnson now!
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But are they available?
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Not if you are negotiating Jez.
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another quality signing with proven premier experience by the 3 m’s.oh yes! jez we really learned from our last brief stint in the premiership and is precisely the reason i refused to stump up the cash for my season ticket(before anyone moans i have only not had a season ticket for 1 out of the last 17 years)as i knew it was gonna be the same old story.this failure to invest in the sufficient quality will cost us and its a shame because we do have some quality young players who just needed some proven premier experience to guide them but the money has been wasted on players who just are not up to the task i.e; halford,berra,maerhoffer,(although not given proper chance)surman.iwelumo,stearman and seb just not good enough in the big league.hope i’m wrong but without a proven premiership goalscorer(beattie)a left back and a creative midfielder we will struggle. the only good thing is that there are a lot of poor teams in the premier league this season so who knows?
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hope this kid can be the spark we need to ignite our season(don’t mind humble pie) he’s supposed to be quick and we need someone direct who isn’t afraid to take players on and provide our strikers with some quality service but please mick if you’re gonna play 2 wingers lets see a target man (hoff or iwelumo)to get the best out of either of these 2 strikers we need to get down the flanks and give them a chance to get goals.
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We have absolutely no ambition. Look at the side that Mick has put out for the cup? Joke.
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Can any of you remember what the stoke fans said about fatface they were glad to be rid of him and until they get rid of him and thick mick we aint going anywere
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Who is fatface?
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