Wolves 0 Liverpool 3 – analysis

Wednesday 1st February 2012, 8:01AM GMT.

It will take more than the last-gasp signing of Sebastien Bassong to restore hope of survival among the Molineux masses after this night of despair.

But at least it’s a start. And Wolves need that because their biggest home crowd of the season last night witnessed a collapse which could only mean relegation is the end game of this fractious season.

Mick McCarthy gathered his players for today’s de-brief hoping that the arrival of the powerful Spurs defender until the end of the season will have a galvanising effect on a group of players who, for all their faults, have never lost heart quite so obviously as was witnessed against Liverpool.

Indeed, the fans passed a comment on their team’s ultimate disarray more devastating and damaging then the anger and vitriol which had accompanied some of this season’s other low points. With the game settled and Liverpool dominant, mockery and derision provided the backdrop for the final 15 minutes.

In truth – as McCarthy observed –  there was nothing in the first half which suggested the night would end in quite such a dispiriting fashion. But then back came the same old defensive fallibilities which have cost the team so dear this season to help Liverpool score two goals in eight minutes before a third on the counter-attack made a nonsense of Wolves’ unconvincing efforts to retrieve a hopeless deficit.

These frailties in front of an over-worked Wayne Hennessey will be what Bassong has been recruited to address and represents McCarthy’s last throw of the dice to prop up an ailing campaign.

The problems for Roger Johnson and Christophe Berra were further aggravated by the thin cover in front of them where Emmanuel Frimpong and Eggert Jonsson played exactly as they might have expected to – newcomers to the team and to each other.

But most of all this was a collective failure which will have worried Wolves fans in that it contained something rarely seen from McCarthy’s players during his six seasons at the club – a draining spirit and belief in their ability to get out of this mess.

They were, of course, facing opposition fresh from conquering Manchester’s finest in two Cup competitions. And without ever getting on top of Liverpool, Wolves certainly registered enough counter-punches in an open first half to give supporters hope.

Yes, Dirk Kuyt might have scrambled home a goal in the opening minutes, Wayne Hennessey had to be at his best to keep out an Andy Carroll header and saved his finest moment for a classic, full-stretch save to hold on to Craig Bellamy’s arcing free-kick.

But equally, Wolves had David Edwards racing on to a clever Michael Kightly pass and testing Pepe Reina, Steven Fletcher dipping a header just over and then exchanging a quick-combination with Kightly for the winger to shave the outside of the post.

If it wasn’t totally convincing, Wolves’ challenge was still potent enough to hope that they might turn in one of their memorable results.

Seven minutes into the second half, the optimism was crushed. Kevin Foley was left exposed with both Bellamy and Charlie Adam to deal with as Liverpool broke away and the latter’s cross eluded the rest of the back four for Carroll to pounce at the far post.

That was simple enough for the visitors but the way in which Bellamy was afforded the freedom of midfield to advance and then strike for goal eight minutes later was criminal. Yes, Hennessey will be angry with himself for not adding another save to his season’s collection – but not half as angry as he should be with the men in front of him.

The third goal, finished by Kuyt after another counter-attack had caught Wolves gung-ho, was a late, punishing conclusion to Liverpool’s superiority but it must have stung the Wolves players to then have their meagre attempts to claw back some pride derided by the Molineux fans.

When, in an act of token defiance, substitute Sylvan Ebanks-Blake rattled Reina’s left-hand post, they struck up a chorus of “We’ve had a shot at goal” before the mockery continued with cries of “Shoot, Shoot” every time a Wolves player gathered possession thereafter.

It was painful, crushing and deeply unsettling.

This is what Monsieur Bassong is stepping into – and we can only all wish him the very best of luck.

By Martin Swain


  1. 1
    Whitnash Wolf

    Bassong,too little too late.
    What a debacle in the second half.
    Where are you ‘in Mick we trust’ and ‘Magic Mick’ happy clappers now ?
    It was a disgrace, no passion, no tactics, no idea.
    Don’t know what else to say really,except my continual plea to Mr Morgan of please get rid of McCarthy now, you can’t do any more harm than Mick has/will cause. He lost most of the fans ages ago and from what i witnessed last night, he’s lost the dressing room !
    Mr Morgan, sack him now and spend time finding a manager who is of Premiership quality. It may mean we have to go down to rebuild ( not your stadium) but so be it.

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    • Kiwiwolffffffff

      ALL EMAIL THE CLUB AND CALL, IT’S THE ONLY WAY NOW BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.
      GET SOMEONE IN NEW, IT’S OUR ONLY CHANCE LEFT.
      THE PLAYERS SEEM TO HAVE GIVEN UP HOPE TOO…
      WHNE YOU LOSE THE PLAYERS YOU HAVE NO CHANCE…

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    • Bunghoolioo wolf

      There’s little point in commenting on here anymore unless it’s the usual anti mick anti moxey anti Morgan brigade. The chant in the south bank made me laugh last night… You can Stick your houses up… Well wouldn’t it be interesting if he did just that. Where would we be then numpties? No chairman, no money, no chance. Get real and SUPPORT YOUR TEAM. TO THOSE WHO BOO AND JEER…YOU ARE ALL A DISGRACE. Jog on.

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      • Whitnash Wolf

        Oh so sorry Bunghoolioo Wolf for voicing our opinions. Are you telling me you found anything about last nights display to cheer or be happy about, if you did then please enlighten us !

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    maltawolves

    What can you honestly expect with this manager in charge.Consistency is his virtue,we concede constantly,never put in a challenge,retreat- run alongside- jockey but never a challenge.Firmly believe the talent is there to stay in the prem,but under MM it will always be,Ward,Henry,Edwards,Berra etc,What other club would want these championship at best players?

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    Chris in Portugal

    Mick reckons some of the players had run out of legs. Well tell me which of the two teams from last night played at the weekend? I am afraid that there are two early birds in our household that won’t be taken up for next season.

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    • Kiwiwolffffffff

      Spot on..
      Many WON’T be renewing while this Joker is in charge.
      This has been going on for months now and is a bit late but get rid and get someone in till the end of the season.
      Can’t do no worse??

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    RichWolf64

    WHAT DO YOU ALL EXPECT?

    Mick was never and will never be a premiership manager.

    Ward was never and will never be a premiership player.. ditto Berra, Foley, Edwards, Ebanks Blake, that list goes on..

    This is the most expensively assembled wolves team in history and what a complete and utter waste of money it has been.

    The facts :

    We have not scouting network of any worth whatsover.

    The academy under McCarthy has failed to produce anyone and even if it did they wouldn’t get a chance under this useless manager.

    Morgan is too busy building homes and has shown little to no interest in the team.

    Moxey can balance the books, as any accountant can, but he sure as hell can’t run a football club.

    McCarthy is hopelessly out of his depth and his team is pitifull and destined for mid table championsip.

    All you brain dead happy clappers are finally waking up to what some of us have known since the day we were promoted, under McCarthy this team is going nowhere and frankly never will.

    Thanks for getting us promoted Mick, will always be grateful for that, but you should of gone the day promotion was assured.

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    spanishray

    Absolute rubbish .No tactics,no fight.no idea.All you McCarthy fans want to take a close look and then praise the Muppet.Bassong may be too late and the 3M`s should be packing their bags right now.Morgan,sell the club as you obviously don`t know the first thing about running it and you only paid how much for it? Moxey,well what can you say,he was ruining Stoke until they saw the light and fobbed him off to us.That leaves McCarthy and clipboard,tactless,clueless and useless.Time to go without haste.They couldn`t manage a booze-up in a brewery.

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    The Flying Winger

    QPR 5 signings, a manager who will know how to get them to play.

    Our best shot from our best shooter who sits on the bench every game until it’s too late.

    Nothing will get better until McCarthy goes, although it’s probably too late now.

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    Rob

    If the team are giving their all as the manager says then threre must be something wrong with his team selection and tactics.
    Too late for a change now – wour hierarchy have let us down again. The limit has been reached. Lots of empty seats next season in the Championship – Wolves rightful Division.

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    Rob

    Let down by the hierarch.
    Too late to do anymore now.
    Championship and lotsa empty seats next season mine included.
    The manager is out of his depth in thius Premiership and failue once again to take action with new players has once again been our downfall

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    Hertford

    I’m just too depressed to muster a comment…….

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    Finchfield Wolf

    Is it too late to make a managerial change? The team looks demoralised at the moment… maybe a new manager may motivate them for the run in? Who would we bring in though?

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    • Stafford Wolf

      Neil Warnock or Ray Wilkins

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      • Habsburg Wolf

        Wilkins would be good. Gus Poyet is another one.

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      • Filtonwolf (Bristol)

        NO….NO…NO Never in a month of Sundays.

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      • DynamoWolf

        Good shout on both of them. I um and arr about Steve Bruce as he did well with Wigan and Blues we’re about that level. But i’d be happy with either of them two…

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      • todd

        Not Warnokeo please; As for ‘crab’, I think his contribution at Chelski has been rather overblown, probably by his media chums (that sounds familiar); Why not Bruce on a ‘keep us up contract’ a basic of £2000/week and £500,000 bonus for survival, with a 12/18/24 month option, both ways, if survival is achieved? The ideal candidate though,If he would come, is Benitez; He would have access to fantastic Spanish players at bargain prices; But as he has had dealings with SM at Anfield, that probably is a no go under any circumstances; I’m off to put a deposit on one of those £750,000 houses at Compton; I think I may be the only resident for an awfully long time, piece and quite at last!(there certainly wont be any football played any where near there whilst MM is Manager!)

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    • Leon

      Raffa Benitez would take Wolves forwards, it is not too late to stop relegation. We have enough matches to turn it around. But not with Mick its like turning round the Titanic with him. Get him out now while my heart still ticks.

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    38 stone Wolf

    Karl Henry doesn’t get many plaudits when he plays but, boy, do we miss him for his defensive ability when he’s doesn’t.
    The Championship isn’t inevitable just yet. Though I would want good odds to put any money on them to stay up.
    Hey ho; on with the continuous feeling of mild disappointment that is being a bloody wolves fan….right, back to that lovely bucket of fried chicken.

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    • Dave Telford Wolves

      Absolutely spot on.
      But this also highlights our inept manager that has such a lightweight midfield that when a player of limited ability is missing the midfield falls apart.

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    • Bondwolf

      Karl Henry? Are you serious? Wolves are in the league position that we are in because Karl Henry and his ilk start and finish every game due to the manager being too scared to sub him because he knows that he will get the bird from the fans. Wolves’ record with Henry in the team is worse than when he is missing (look it up).

      And why does he get the bird from the fans? Mick has patronisingly implied that it’s because some fans have a vendetta against him (and MM). The truth is, most fans know something about football and only boo useless players. Never heard bull, rae or ince getting stick. Because they were good at football.

      And the fans can also spot a manager who is out of ideas.

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      • purewolves

        We are not in this position because of Karl Henry I agree that he was part of why we lost against Aston Villa the other one was losing Frimpong to his injury. We are in this position because of Roger Johnson earlier on in the season having problems of the inability to do his job that he is paid to do and that is to defend.

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    1of1618

    *************NO THANKS********************

    We’ll all be getting our early bird letter soon I’m guessing? I know it won’t solve much but perhaps the letters should be posted back for the attention of Steve Morgan with a polite “no thanks”.
    19’000 of those might speak louder than any rant on here!

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    Jake

    McCarthy isnt the problem. The Premiership is unforgiving and we have invested too little. This is down to Morgan, and Morgan alone.

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    • Habsburg Wolf

      Surely Moxey… the fat controller. With him around we will never move forward. Ask the Stokies, they hate him.

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    • Stafford DeWolf

      Norwich and Swansea seem to be able to give most sides in the Premiership a competitive game for less investment. Why not Wolves? The stats from the Liverpool game let alone the scoreline suggest are appalling, and represent a huge gulf in class. We look a poor Championship side on this showing.

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    todd

    What a pathetic analysis, trying yet again to spin the club’s positive take on the disaster that has been the 3 M’s time at the club, save the promotion season; Until the press start taking the un-biased view, nothing will improve for the downtrodden Wolves fans;

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    Lesterwolf

    That is it. No more of wasting my money travelling the 120 mile round trip to watch McCarthy’s misspent and utterly useless team.

    After watching the Wolves since 1948 I have seen enough. In all the years through the good and bad matches, what we now have is a team that would find it difficult to beat the Wolves team that played against that infamous Chorley team (if it were possible.)

    McCarthy has to go but Morgan is so loyal to him, it borders on infatuation.

    The players are now resigned to the fact that we are going down.You can see it in the way they act and play. I should rephrase that and say “play acting”
    McCarthy has now lost the dressing room. It is obvious and after all this time one can see the reason why.
    His before, during and after the match comments must be and appear to be the same repetitive statements. The players and I imagine all the Wolves spectators are bored to death with his ‘we were rubbish’and ‘ we did not defend properly’ or ‘I got the tactics wrong and had to change the system’ blah blah blah! That is what we hear after each poor performance. The training and coaching statements must sound the same to the players because they hear the same stuff day in day out from the manager and his non tactical supporting clipboard man. They must switch off during these meetings. I nearly stated ‘Tactical briefings’
    What on earth must Morgan think of the way his team plays. What does McCarthy say to him when, OR IF, they discuss the way things are going. How does McCarthy influence Morgan as to his prowess as a Premiership manager with the current Wolves playing record to date and his own record over the past three years.

    No, as I said at the start no more. Beggar my season ticket for the rest of the season. Beggar my couple of pints in the bar before the game. I am too old to drive there and back with the journey back a long sad drive. It has taken McCarthy to break my allegiance and loyalty to the Wolves.

    At least I have the memories of the glorious years having seen the greatest players at the Molineux, the likes of Puskas, De Stefano, Groskis and so many more. Ther Wolves players etched in the Wolves history, Williams, Wright,Swinbourne, Hancocks, Mullen and so many many more, then the Real Madrids, Barcelona, Honved and Spartak teams. What memories. I cannot forget those bur McCarthy will soon disappear down the drain hole but he is taking my team with him.
    There are words I could use to describe what I think of the man but they would not get past the censor.
    There is always ‘Football First’

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    Stafford Wopf

    Perfect night for Mr Morgan, his team won 3 – 0.
    The window shut so he doesnt have to buy any players.
    2 signings and egg on our face me thinks, when ya buy from Ireland and Scotland its like shopping in Poundland (It looks ok, but what can ya get for a pound?), Celtic and Rangers are mid championship teams so what would you expect from the rest ?

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    redrow wanderers

    Mcarthy says that we ran out of legs, for god sake, they havn’t played for nearly 2 weeks, young professional men can’t run for 90 minutes, whats going on during the week at the training ground..!Probably setting out the building foundations for for Morgans 55 executive homes… total disgrace …Morgan, Moxey,Mcarthy, Connor, Daley ..OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT

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    G;MAC

    @4 your comments are spot on, just to add if there was any ambition in the club at all McCarthy would have gone after last match of the season debacle against Blackburn last season when his weakness to inspire the team was obvious. Have lost all hope for this season with relegation all but guaranteed. Just waiting for the response from the happy clappers JohnWolf especially extolling the virtues of MM & calling us all mindless idiots (again) Cannot make my mind up if he is a wind up merchant, insane or an Albion supporter as the Tesco lot constantly are reminding me on what a great job McCarthy is doing in destroying my beloved Wolves.

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    Glos Wolf 1952

    Totally agree with what appears to be a majority of fans, the current manager is completely out of his depth and is unable to provide the motivation and tactics to drive the club forward.

    I would not hesitate in bringing in Roy Keane, he is clearly a manager who would be able to get improved performances from the existing squad, and how deliciously ironic it would be for him to replace the muppet.

    Keeping MM at this stage will almost certainly end in relegation for the club and tears all around, the only chance we have is making a change without further delay.

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    Old Golds Worth More

    Wasn’t at the game last night, so had to settle for watching Sky sports one for all the match updates. The most damming indictment came from the sky reporter at the ground when Bellamy scored Liverpools second. He said McCarthy was a defender but his team don’t know how to defend, says it all really. Last season we stayed up due to beating Man U, Man City, Chelsea at home and Liverpool away, this season we haven’t managed a single win against any of the big teams, in fact its considered a triumph if we hang on for a draw (Spurs and Arsenal). Well I suppose the so called happy clappers will have gone away thinking “oh dear, well there’s always the next match to turn things around”. Biggest problem is, we are running out of next matches. Just hope to God Bolton and Blackburn lose tonight, as its rapidly looking like a four horse race over who is going to be relegated.

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    jason.s

    Me thinks that it s time for mm to go,the loan signing of bassong is too little too late,its the fizzy pop league for us!

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    Robert Perry

    I was going to come on here and slag off Morgan ,Moxey etc but what is the point? Its obvious they dont give a damn about the fans and making a profit is all they are interested in.. I am seriously worried about our future as I truly believe our management team have no idea how to run a premiership club.What is even more depressing is that we dont DESERVE to stay up when you compare us to say QPR.

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    Wulvzs

    IS HE STILL IN A JOB THIS MORNING!

    HE IS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE OF A MANAGER ALONG WITH HIS SIDEKICK WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL!

    I SEE THAT ALL THE HAPPY CLAPPERS ARE LYING LOW AGAIN!

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    Rancor_Bait

    At least you have those fond memories Lesterwolf. The achievements of the past 3 years have been the greatest I have seen in my lifetime. Alas, it looks like it is coming to an end. That Hunt goal against Blackburn seems like years ago now…

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    yorkshirewolf

    Stats don’t lie,one shot on target to liverpools 13,nowhere near good enough. Thanks for the memories mick but time to go I think.missed our chance for oniel earlier in the season,maybe bring in warnock. Up the wolves

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    macwulf

    Last nights pathetic performance was summed up by the look on the managers face of complete shellshock. If ever someone has lost the plot it was there for all to see. Teams play the way the manager and coaching staff want them to and last night was an embarrassing display by a team with no confidence or motivation. The current manager is now unable to motivate the team, is tactically naive and as a result, the players clearly do not want to play for him. The fans have been let down by indecisive management and the clubs money making aspect has taken precedent over focus on the playing side. A football club is not just a business opportunity, but a community of people who should be proud to work together. Last night all the pride was lost.

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    jon mason

    cant believe the seriously dissalusioned three msyou are a disgrace to out townits alright for maniac mick to keep saying this and that then does nothing about it.
    then you got liverpool fans moxey and morgan dont give 2 hoots about the club reminds me me of the dark days of the bhatti brosall i can say to the 3 of them is get lost we dont want you dont need you you are ruining our club i for one will never grace the doors of molinuex again until these three jokers leave we are a laughing stock

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    Finchfield Wolf

    No 13: The little money that McCarthy has been badly spent… why are we buying mediocre midfielders from Scotland? We need to (or should i say ‘should have’) used/d this money on paying the wages of proven midfileder/strikers that cant get games fro their current clubs..(Spurs – Pavluychenko?)without this approach we have no way of surving as the team that McCarthy has established is an average championship side at best..

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    Private Frazer

    Mr M, We’re doomed!

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    G:MAC

    @15 Lesterwolf. What a wonderful letter, i too have been following Wolves since 1954 and like yourself have many glorious memories of the golden years of the 50′s, the fall and rise of the 80′s (thank God for Bully) but like yourself i cannot remember feeling so depressed in all these years as i am now.

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    • wallheath wolf

      I don’t go back quite that far but I did travelaway to most 4th and 3rd division grounds. I was so pleased when the north bank was demolished as it gave me an excuse not to renew my ticket this year. I won’t be going to another game while this muppet is manager. Simple. Moxey needs to go too, but no-one can say Morgan hasn’t supported mm financially. It’s just mm is useless at buying or maybe can’t attract decent players. Go and get Poyet and his coaching team now. Too late this season but we need to rebuild and bounce back. Wolves Forever.

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      • Tonto

        Why would Poyet want to come here, he’s just signed for another five years with a chairman who has AMBITION. Don’t think Mr Morgan equates that with his football knowledge

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    GoWolves

    Problem with Wolves, much as I love them, is that they always wait until the titanic is half way under before they start to pump water. There was another article published after our game against Villa titled something like “Where to now” … well, regretfully I think the answer to that is painfully obvious: it’s down!

    It’s not like we didn’t have a warning fired across the bow loud and clear at the end of last season where we really only survived by a miracle of miracles. But rather than learning our lessons, counting our blessings, and strengthening in depth to truly build and move forward with resolve to never let last season happen again, we just bought one player, from a relegated side and ploughed on.

    I don’t know whether that was stupidity, arrogance or just plain old tight-fistedness, but now we are paying the price for not taking action when we had the chance. Oh there were claims and all sorts of posturing of how we would aim for a top ten finish and even aspire for Europe. What delusion. Words are so cheap! Results, unfortunately, cost a lot more.

    I don’t bear ill-will to Mick McCarthy, Steve Morgan, or anyone at the football club. They have, after all, served us well in seeing the club promoted and survive (though barely) for a couple of seasons. But I do think they have led the club irresponsibly this year, and when measured against the expectations they themselves set, that is unacceptable.

    Back in October I said on many occasions that it was time for Mick McCarthy to celebrate his successes and make way for the next person capable of taking the club forward to the next level. That person was Martin O’Neill. At the time I was brandished as negative and my Wolves loyalty questioned. Unfortunately I have been proven right. Mick McCarthy has destroyed every ounce of confidence and energy his players ever had because he has reached the limits of his capabilities, and has burnt out the team. They cannot even pass a ball anymore. And now, unfortunately, the person who was right for Wolves’ next step is successfully employed elsewhere, so the sinking ship has no hope of a new captain.

    So welcome aboard Mr Bassong! Glad to have you. There’s the pump and we’re about waist high in water already. Start pumping lad. At least when our ship goes down you’ll be on the lifeboat back to Spurs.

    The rest of us will be left with the void of despair and failure to wallow in, where there could have been hope and success.

    Mr McCarthy, oh what have you done!

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    haitchy

    RELEGATION is almost certain after that non performance,I love my Wolves,I am not interested in any other league club but that is it for me,I will go down to my local non league club with crowds of 800,the football ain’t great but at least they try and their manager seems to know what he is doing,can’t say that about MM or his players. The last time that I was that embarrased was the night we lost to Chorley and Mr Morgan,please sell the club to a proper wolves fan and then you can go and watch your true love……LIVERPOOL FC

    14th place in the championship is my prediction for next season under this underperforming regime,

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    Monkey

    13.jake…..you are absolutely right. Morgan has to shoulder the blame. Spend £40 million on a new stand when we were’nt an established premier league side. Too soon Mr Morgan. That money should have been spent strengthening the team. Can build a new stand any time, but guarantee we won’t fill it when we go down, and i mean WHEN.
    Where was our leader last night….our so called club captain is as much as a captain as that guy on the Costa Concordia. Last night was the closest I’ve ever come to booing a wolves side. Never done it, and hopefully never will but to simply give up like we did last night was disgusting. Frimpong, Fletcher and Hennesey the only ones who came off that pitch with any credit, and if Eggert Jonsson is a premier league player then I’m avaliable next week and I’ll play for half his wages and guarantee I’ll still have a better game.
    Will still be there as always keeping the faith, but patience is wearing thin.

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    Finchfield Wolf

    23. Totally agree.. just look at the way QPR, Swansea, Norwich are playing…they are a credit to the premiership..and fully deserve to survive

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    maltese veteran wolf

    Well said no.21, I fully agree. Most of our players are championship level, we are too afraid to pass the ball. It is too late now.

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    MAC OUT

    Miss Karl Herny you must be joking he can’t defend keeps losing or giving away the ball and then ends up fouling a player getting a yellow or worse get himself sent off get rid!!

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    WASSWOLF

    WHAT A DIABOLICAL PERFORMANCE !!!
    WOLVES NEED MORE THAN BASSONG TO SAVE THEM –
    WOLVES NEED A NEW BOARD!!!!!
    TALKING TO OTHER FANS THEY ALSO WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM ANY MORE -

    MORGAN ITS FAR TOO LATE NOW, WE ARE DOOMED !!!!!

    THANX VERY MUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    GOODBYE UNTIL NEW BLOOD IS FOUND AND DOES SOME GOOD !!!!!!!!!!!!

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    BALHAM WOLF

    Its strange how a lot of people on this site have seen this coming for a long time.

    This summer the lack of ambition was obvious for all to see. We survived by the skin of our teeth and yet we spent peanuts on new recruits to take us to a higher level.

    Right now I do not think MM knows what to do, who to play and so on. The stats last night were something like Liverpool shots at goal 35. Wolves shots at goal 7. Says it all to me!

    No backbone (Johnson + Berra Championship quality at best)
    No Creative spark in midfield = nothing for the forwards to feed off.
    One attacker who is quality but sadly not matched by the ret of the team.

    Jarvis, Hunt, Hammill lacking in confidence and therefore can’t deliver what is required.
    The one creative midfielder is crocked and even before his demise was looking forlorn of any confidence.

    SADLY WE DONT HAVE THE MANAGER NOR THE PLAYERS TO GET US OUT OF THIS MESS. WHO TO BLAME? Well it has to come from the top and Morgan has sadly not made the changes we fans have been asking for, for ages.

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    WestlyNTR

    O’Hara and Craddock coming back – just at the right time – they will turn our season around. We’ll be safe with a couple of games left and built for next year.

    FACT

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    • luke skywalker

      I hope so. & if we do survive, it’s time for a change at the helm. Mick, thanks for all you have done, but we need to look forward & it’s time to move on, regardless of which division we are in next year!

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    • numptles dumptles

      this is the only hope now, Craddock and Bassong at the back, berra on bench, johnson loaned out to nottingham forest, play doyler in midfield and push on through.

      The best quote on here is MM as slow turning as the titanic!

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    • Dr Doolittle

      As a doctor, I am concerned about you. Either you are unwell, or you are an ironic Albion supporter. In either case, you need help

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    ilkestonwolf

    15 says it all, similar journey mate, 54 years barely missing a game but McCarthy has driven me to the edge too.
    Moxey’s programme notes asks us to look how far we have come in 5years, well the answer is full circle on the playing side, the thing that matters most. Regretfully though we will be kicking off in the championship with fewer supporters, driven away by the missmanagement of the playing staff.
    Its not the fault of the 7 or 8 players still turning out who played championship football for us, any fool knew that at best we had 3 or 4 of the promotion side that would be able to step up a level. There is only one man who has spent 40 million since promotion and failed to improve the side. Just how McCarthy remains in charge beggars belief and becomes the reason why so many will finish their support of the club once this seaons ticket runs out.

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    WASSWOLF

    TOTALLY AGREE WITH NUMBER 12 ABOUT THE EARLY BIRDS BEING RETURNED TO STEVE MORGAN !!!!!!

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    • todd

      Don’t just say it, do it,all 18,766 of us ;Money,Moxey & Morgan are the real 3 M’s; They know McCarthy’s limitations,but he serves the purpose, ie making cash, lot’s of it;

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    English Exile

    Well done Wolves.
    Your total spend in the Transfer Window totaled £200,000.
    EXACTLY the same as CRAWLEY TOWN Spent buying Billy Clarke from Blackpool.

    Makes you proud doesn’t it.

    ******NEVER MIND WE ARE SOLVENT*********

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    shan the sheep

    Last nite decided my early bird letter i have just binned it why should the fans spend our money to watch tripe like last nite

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    rich5wolves

    People never envisaged the state we are in now when Hunt scored “that” goal last season.

    Murmurings from the owner and chief exec were very much we are a club going forward, exciting all fans of the club and giving the impression investment on the field would materialise to prevent a relegation scrap.

    Several months later and here we are. A stand being built with no concrete plans for the rest of the ground and at the expense of team additions its fairly obvious to say, 2nd bottom and little investment on the pitch.Playing terribly almost every game I should add.

    The owner now says…………..nothing.
    This problem starts from the top down. Most would agree a change of manager is needed however the new manager would have to face the same idiotic decisions being made by the board of the club. Why build that stand, surely every penny spare would go to ensure Premiership survival???

    Then there is the argument that Morgan cannot lose by building assets. If we go down he has a ready made manager to bring us back up. If we sneaked survival then even better. If this is the case then his lack of ambition in changing the manager has been matched by his lack of investment in playing staff.

    Overall I would assess Wolves as Championship quality throughout. We have people making stupid decisions or no decisions at the top, a championship manager out of his depth in the Premier League, we pay championship wages to by and large championship quality players which would obviously make sense.

    Most of all what I personally find more annoying than anything, Morgan sits there and says nothing.

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    molineux heights

    Even with the amount we spend on wages and transfer fees. We should be performing better than this.

    I am not a boo boy. I did not boo last night, nor did i rant at the players. I merely watched a championship side play Liverpool.

    The tv punduts love Mick. But they also love Gordon Strachan and Ian Holloway. That doesn’t mean they make good premiership managers.

    In the premiership “Young and Hungry” means cheap as chips.

    The stats do not lie. We are where we are on merit. And there are teams above us who have spent less money than us yet play more attractive football.

    Mr Morgan needs to get real. He has given the manager enough time and enough money to prove himself in the premier league and it is time to replace him as well as TC.

    With the announced further investment in our academy. We need quality scouting from all over europe and not just ROI. A style a method of play that is conducive to the Premier League, and a new manager who is tactically astute and that can spot and nurture talent as well as manage players who may be a little challenging off the field.

    I love Wolves. But. Just as Mr Morgan likes to ensure his investment is solvent and works within a budget. I look at my hard earned cash and have to weigh up whether I wish to invest in a season ticket again next year.

    On the current business case put in front of me by Wolves, I will not be investing next season. And support from an armchair does not add to Mr Morgans bank balance.

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  46. 46
    shawn

    CARNT BELIEVE HE STILL HAS A JOB WAKE UP MORGAN

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    wolfbrand

    Top of the table in August (albeit for a couple of hours) now seems like a lifetime ago…

    Don’t think I have ever felt so low. To me the unjust defeat to Chelsea and the crazy second half against Villa were the first two nails in the coffin.

    Bassong in is great, but too little too late. £200k spent in the transfer market… Look at QPR and guess who play them next??

    I think the players have given up. I will always support the team and the players but we need a change. I dread every game now. Hodgson saved the Baggies last year. Maybe someone can save us. Probably not.

    At least in the fizzy pop I’ll have more away games to go to. The nearest ground at the moment is Sunderland. And we will win more than we lose. Trying for a positive spin at the moment…

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    John De Wolf

    Morgan has let us down. He wasn’t brave enough to make the call that Sunderland and QPR did, which was to bring in a proven manager at premiership level. Even WBA did a similar thing last season and it worked for them even though they were criticised for it.

    We have seen Allardyce, O’Neil and Hughes, all who have been available over the last year, go into other jobs while we have shown blind faith in our inept manager. We missed out on all 3 managers who would have consolidated our position in the league and taken us forward.

    It is embarrassing to see QPR, Norwich and Swansea all come up and play us off the park with a much better brand of free flowing attacking football and they got what they deserve, points!

    We are awful to watch, no invention or ability on the ball, lose most weeks, can’t defend, can’t score, play long ball, can’t pass, the list goes on.

    So yes, thanks for that new stand but I’m afraid it’ll be mostly empty for a while. Lose against QPR and then WBA and you aint seen nothing yet, for you have underestimated the most important people at the football club, it’s fans.

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    Gordon Bennett

    Questions for Morgan Moxey and McCarthy. Why did you buy our club if you are not prepared to do what a premier league club requires? Why is building Morgan’s folly prority over getting a proper team together.
    Whose idea was it to buy Eggy? What solution does he bring?
    Why can Djokovic play 11 hours of punishing tennis in 3 days and our lot who haven’t played for 10 days collapse after 60 minutes?

    How come we are all idiots and numpties when we can all see that failure to invest in the team has led us to where we are now – a laughing stock. Football isn’t rocket science is it? if us mindless morons can suss it out why can’t you?

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    oldgold-boy

    Championship Manager
    Championship Team
    Championship here we Come!
    Morgan and his sidekick Moxey have taken the cheap option
    stick with Mick,go down and let him excell in the Championship.
    Maynard 1.65M need we say more about our spending power.
    the 3 M’s have badly let the fans down
    too late for change should have happened in November or end of last season.
    The 3 M’s plan was to rely on QPR,Swansea and Norwich to come straight back down thus not having to invest into team and getting by on the cheap!!
    never mind keep building the Houses Morgan!!

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    DynamoWolf

    Not that it means much and i’m sure plenty would dissaprove but i’d like to see this line up 4-5-1
    Hennessey
    Foley
    Johnson/Bassong
    Craddock
    Elokobi
    Hammil
    Guedioura(get him back)
    Frimpong
    O’Hara
    Kightly
    Fletcher

    Even at that i look at our choice of defenders and struggle to see who would be best!!!

    Something has to change or next season we play Championship football and lose Fletcher, Doyle, Jarvis, Johnson, O’Hara, probably Kightly also THEN WHAT!!!

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    • DynamoWolf

      Just read that back swap Kightly for Jarvis.

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      • AdRoCk

        so whihch one Johnson or Bassong?? no use suggesting both for the same postition when you’re naming your team.

        suprised you have plumped for Hammil, he is too raw, gets the ball and he is like a kitten with a yarn of wool, excited by getting it but not a clue what to do with it.

        we probably need to face that Johnson is the club captain so he wont be dropped long term to accomodate a new CB, i would say Berra will go to the bench with Bassong replacing him. Kites and Jarvis shoud flank O’Hara and Frimpong with Henry sitting behind them two.

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        • DynamoWolf

          At this point Johnson but he needs to start playing like he did at Blues.

          Hammil runs at players which is what i like to see and is a good player when he’s on it. Which i’m not saying Kightly isn’t but i’d like to see Hammil given a chance although IF we do get the dreaded drop he’ll get plenty of game time next season.

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    • numptles dumptles

      we wont be losing johnson

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  52. 52
    WS11 Wolf

    Early bird – no thanks. We have a manager who calls us moronic idiots, a captain who I have seen arguing with fans and his fellow players (not forgetting his regular comments in this paper!!) and a club that thinks it is ok to leave us sitting in the pouring rain whilst away fans sit in the dry watching absolute rubbish from out team. Perhaps they should remember that we are WWFC customers as well as fans. If I treated my customers like this I am certain they would not come back. Been a season ticket holder for 10 years but this is it for me. MM & TC should go now even though it looks too late to avoid the drop. Not Neil Warnock for me, too like MM.

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    Roswolf

    McCarthy’s latest comments on the official website: “If you are looking for a magic formula then quite clearly I can’t just find one now,” he said. Morgan should act now! Get Carl Robinson in, take a chance on young managerial talent,along with a complete change of coaching staff. Look at the football Swansea and Norwich are playing!

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    • wrexham wolf

      Good call. Someone like Carl Robinson is exactly what we need. Or why not let Craddock take over for the rest of the season – if ever there is a player at the club who has steadied the ship time after time – it is Craddock.

      How can it be too late to change the manager. Leeds have sacked their manager today along with a statement that a new manager will come in and get more out of the players – this is exactly the position Wolves are in. Except for whatever reason no one at the club seems to see this.

      My dad has supported Wolves since he was a boy and his father had a season ticket for 45 years continuously (except for the war) and i have supported Wolves since i was a boy. The day McCarthy got the job my dad heaved a huge sigh and said that Wolves would go nowhere with him in charge.

      Steve Morgan publicly stated that results had to improve- well they clearly haven’t – so what does he do now?

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    • numptles dumptles

      Carl Robinson you say!

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    Richard

    Like many other supporters have mentioned, if Mccarthy claims they always give 110%, the fact we have won 1 game in 22 suggests there is a MASSIVE problem technically and tactically.

    Liverpool have played 3 games in 6 days and Wolves have played 2 in 11 days, yet we were the team running on empty?????!!!!!!!!!!

    The football is dire, Mccarthy is way out his depth, but Wolves are so keen on this bloomin ‘stability policy’, Mccarthy could take us down to the Blue Square Premier and he would still be here.

    BEST LINE UP

    Hennessey

    Foley Johnson Bassong Ward

    Kightly Frimpong Henry O Hara Jarvis

    Fletcher

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    • Sir Lupi

      Would definately go with that line up, although watching Kightly last night, he needs to learn how to defend. Bellamy murdered him and left Foley with to much to do.

      QPR and Albion game are do or die, less than 4 pts out the two games now is not enough.

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    Nemo

    When Jez says “look how far we have come in 5 years” he is missing the point.
    We came this far in 3 years, levelled out the next year and have been going downhill at breaneck speed for the last year and a half.

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    Nemo

    When Jez says “look how far we have come in 5 years” he is missing the point.
    We came this far in 3 years, levelled out the next year and have been going downhill at breakneck speed for the last year and a half.

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    Bob Wolf

    Last 5 games at home, 1 point and 12 goals conceded. Hard to see where the next point is coming from, let alone the next win!!

    Midfield was awful last night, Eggy showed why he hasn’t left the SPL up to now, Edwards typical headless chicken, Frimpong went missing, Kightly awful as ever and Jarvis not in the game at all.

    Morgan hasn’t got the bottle to sack Mick and was taking some abuse from the fans in the Director’s Box last night as I was leaving.

    Bassong won’t be enough to save us – the bloke we need is sat at home waiting for the phonecall – Paul Ince.

    Ince in.

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    karl

    The players run out of legs……… PAH!!
    Did anyone see the tennis, Djor#@~”% whats his face played 11 hours of tennis in three days, and that was full on non stop action….
    I’ve never had a go at McCarthy, but do know he has his short fallings, but in the last 3 years of relegation fighting, I have never known our heads, and I mean manager, players and fans, to drop. But last night they did. After all our other defeats, we’ve known we would fight until the last whistle, on the last day, blew. Last night felt different, I don’t like to say it but I think this is one battle too far. I really hope I am proved wrong!!! Wolves for ever, no matter where we are…….

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  59. 59
    wolvesjog

    Mickey Mouse please go back to Disneyland…Wolves need a real manager!!!

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    Stafford DeWolf

    Norwich and Swansea seem to be able to give most sides in the Premiership a competitive game for less investment. Why not Wolves? The stats from the Liverpool game let alone the scoreline are appalling for a home side, and represent a huge gulf in class. We look a poor Championship side on this showing.
    McCarthy’s decisions to sign Johnson (his first choice central defender Moxey said) and appoint him captain has taken the club backwards from a lucky 17th place last season.
    Bargain hunting in fire sales at relegated and bankrupt clubs has not worked. No nauseous back slapping from McCarthy and Moxey this season.
    Frimpong and Bassoon have very probably arrived too late and may not be enough anyway.
    So disappointing.

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    wolfie

    Yes Mick has to go and should have gone two weeks ago.
    But I think we are missing the elephant in the room Terry Connor and his clipboard

    Is the one up front his call?

    Is the sideways backwards triangles his call?

    Is the abject fear of Henry not crossing halfway line and god forbid taking a shot his call?

    Is not giving Hammill a fair go his call?

    I think Terry and clipboard,daley and performace laptop and Micks lemming like insistance on “effort” not skill should all be bundled into a skip at the back of the new “white elephant south bank stand.

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    herewolf

    After reading all the comments on here I think that the three M,s should take note of how the majority of people who care about wolves stick together…sadly our 3M,s do not..well not for the club,s benefit only for the shareholders benefit…as far as Moxey is concerned Stoke got rid (well done)and then when they went up got rid of another bad apple in carl henry and we foolishly bought him …..looking at the players we have bought in…Doyle from relegated Reading…Hunt from relegated Hull….Johnson from relegated Birmingham……Fletcher from relegated Burnley plus players from lower divisions who will only ever be championship players at best…I hasten to add Fletcher seems to be a reasonable buy….anyway to conclude my rant first half performance last night not bad …Mr.McCarthy whatever you said at halftime really inspired the lads second half lol…sir you are a joke comletely lost the plot,and makes me wonder did you ever have one in the first place!!!!

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    G Bull

    Say we will be acknowledged as a very good Championship side who never really did any good when promoted to the Premiership – great legacy.

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    Harrow Wolf

    I havent posted on here for ages. Have been feeling to low about the whole situation. I am one off those so called happy clappers that always sees it half full, but no more. I have only missed seeing two games this season and I am fed up with feeling sick even before we kick a ball. My belief has gone and the 3 Ms are collectively to blame for that. Wolves till I die.

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    London wolf

    Said in my last post keeper needs to work on shots from distance 2nd goal down to defence backing off and weak hand to shot we are stuck with mick who I do believe has given his all and what he needs now is support why not get a defence coach in for the rest of the season as our coaching staff are not up to the job. Alan curbishly still looking for job .

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    crowfish

    I fail to see how on earth he is still in charge!

    It is just beyond belief!

    I really thought he would have walked after that last night!

    Im still fuming!

    They are having no more of my money until he has gone!!

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    BrummieRobWolves

    If the Express and Star figures are correct – £8m spend in total on O’Hara and Johnson – did we really expect anything more than another season of struggle? Blame has to lie with all the 3M’s equally plus certain players.
    February/March is the crucial part of our season fixture list and a minimum haul of 11 points from 8 games is required, or we are doomed. With the signing of Bassong our best team has to be:-

    Hennessey Foley Bassong Johnson Ward Kightly Frimpong O’Hara Milijas Jarvis Fletcher

    We need to be much more creative and cannot be using workmanlike midfielders like Henry, Jonnsen and Edwards!

    At least if we get relegated we will not have to suffer awful, biased officials and have some decent away trips. Wolves fans have had enough of the annual struggle in the Premiership!

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    angel face

    I don’t think getting rid of a manager you’ve had for six years, three at a level he can’t excel at, would make Wolves a ‘Hire and Fire’ Club.

    Thank you and goodnight Michael.

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    ian clarke

    oh dear Micky mouse at it again playing his favourites plus same old system total and utter rubbish bassong who? striker was needed big mistake mccarthy opens mouth about carroll and guess what happens it back fires well done andy why on earth did he let adlene go to forest oh i know so he can stick with king henry and millijas rubbish hamill left out again scored loads from midfield for barnsley lose again saturday mccarthy should have gone at christmas 2 wins out of 21 games what is morgan doing sack him bring in dave jones or Paul ince or either warnock or Holloway. Mccarthy cant take us any further only down to the championship

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    rich5wolves

    Mick says “It was an unacceptable performance from us in the second half and watching that was unacceptable for me or anybody else.

    “That’s as bad a performance as we’ve had here or away. Fans pay good money to come and watch and they expect better and I understand that.”

    Please read Micks comments Morgan…………. Is that really the guy you want running the show? We have ended up with this after 3 years. Have we moved forward or backwards??

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    Wolf Since '66

    Mr Morgan cannot have become so successful as a businessman without having to take some very hard decisions in his time. If a top level employee is dragging his business down singlehandedly surely he would take action.
    Why does he sit and watch this great club of ours suffer at the hands of another of his employees without taking action?
    I was never happy with MicMac’s appointment – having worked with a Sunderland fan during his time there I was well briefed. Yes he got us into the Prem, but that’s history. It’s as far as he took Sunderland, and he took them down again.
    The writing has been on the wall since the Blackburn game at the end of last season – a must win game where his powers of motivation saw us collapse to a 3 goal deficit by half-time.
    I cannot for the life of me understand the blind dedication of some fans to this man – they seem to want to follow hm to the ends of the earth. What will they do when Morgan finally wakes up and smells the coffee? I’ve really had enough of the man. Tactically useless – what do they do on the training ground all week? The players all give the impression that they have just been told nothing more than they are required to put the famous “shift” in. He say’s he likes players that “run around for 90 minutes”. So he’s turned them all into headless chickens. I firmly believe that the squad we have are capable of far better, but need a decent coaching system to bring out the best in them.
    This has been my club since attending my first game in 1966, and has been my family’s club for generations before that. MicMac is nothing more than an employee in whom we have been asked to put our trust. I’m afraid I cannot do that any more. This season is over for me – I won’t be going to watch any more of this rubbish. Somebody let me know when he’s gone please.

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    les-stokie

    FA comfirm two signings late last night, BILL & BEN they must be POTTY. UTW

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  73. 73
    Jean

    My son for the first time left the match 20.mins. before the end of the game vs.Liverpool, he does a 350.mile round trip for every home game, he said he will not be re-newing his season ticket(which has had for many years).
    Why oh why do our players back off and let the opposition run full length of the pitch without anyone trying to close them down ? not only in L`pool game, seems play like that in all games.
    I think Hennesy must get very down hearted, he
    plays great but nothing in front of him .

    Mrs.Wolves.

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    Mike - Dudley

    Wow, pretty strong reactions. I’m a liverpool fan and was at the match last night. I watch Wolves a fair bit and think the obvious problem was a lack of quality in midfield. Jamie o Hara shoulders much of the creative burden and with him gone you never really had much chance. Don’t be too quick to write off new players like Jonnson, I remember Martin Skrtels first few games for us had us scratching our heads but not much gets past him now. The key to the game was in the movement of Henderson, Bellamy and Kuyt, they were never static but the Wolves midfield was too rigid and so couldn’t cope. You’re not down yet folks, lots of games to play, I get the dissapointment but 3 wins in a row can change anyone’s season around with it being this close

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    • Bristol Wolf

      Thanks for your kind thoughts Mike. Unfortunately I think the majority of fans are now so deflated by the results, it is hard to see any change. Every comment on here today is aimed in one direction. Normally there is a balance of support and conflict.

      You are of course right, three wins in a row could turn things around. But it is increasingly difficult to see how that can be acheived.

      Wolves fans were desperate to be persuaded by January signings. Frimpong and Bassong are plus points, but only time will tell. I personally feel that empty promise has been offered in each window.

      We desperately need a win against QPR, who are at least showing desire to stay in this league. Although, we do have a totally different stance on how to spend money, and of course a smaller pot. So alas, we can’t really compare ourselves with them.

      So how have the likes of Swansea and Norwich managed to impress so much this season with a little pot?

      But a win we need all the same. Our only hope is that all of their new signings go straight in, and don’t gel. Giving us the chance to grab the game.

      I’m gutted at the thought of possible relegation – and that, I’m afraid is looking like a real possibilty this season. Something that hasn’t really crossed my mind in the last two campaigns.

      Wolverhampton is my birth place, Wolves are and will forever be my team. But my birth right of shouting for that team seems a little faint today.

      Always and forever – UTW

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    BatteryMonster

    Mick McCarthy is now holder of the worst performance records in win percentage, points gained and goals scored for any manager in a top European division EVER

    McCarthy’s Premier League stats as a manager:
    - Played 122
    - Won 19
    - Drawn 23
    - Lost 80
    - Goals for 107
    - Against 221
    - Points 80
    - Win percentage 16%

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    • todd

      I agree with the sentiment but not the facts, he has managed 137 top flight games including 38 odd for Sunderland, where he won 2; At WWFC it is 99 games in the Prem with 24 odd wins, ie 24% ish; overall it is a 19% win % Let’s hope No 100 is his last;

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    Solentwolf

    Well, something has got to change. Steve Morgan is the man who has to accept that the buck stops with him – because it is he who dictates how much money he is prepared to release for Mick to spend – Moxey works for him, and not vice versa. Obviously not enough of a war chest has been put in Mick’s direction for him to pull players in. But, having said that, Norwich and Swansea work to similar limits and they are exciting their fans. I have been a supporter of Mick – I actually hoped he’d get the job before it was offered to him – but managers come and go and I now think it is time for a change. And that is down to Morgan. We need to freshen up more at Molineux than stands that seemed OK to me in the first place. All that “we will be all right” doesn’t wash: the same words are coming out of the mouths of at least four other managers. I think Wigan will go down. Once I thought Blackburn would also, but now I’m not so sure. I never thought Bolton would. And QPR? How many on here really believe we can stay up again? I hope we do, of course, but I think it is all against us this time. I wish someone could convince me otherwise. Despondent Solent.

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    • wolfshead

      One of the things that keeps me going Solent, is that of the bottom five only QPR have really strengthened. Don’t think that Wigan, Blackburn or Bolton have improved tho’, Cahill excepted, they each have held on to key players.

      For practical purposes survival will be fought out between ourselves and the three teams mentioned above, as I assume that QPR will kick on – hopefully they will leave it till after Saturday.

      Bolton are no great shakes, particularly in defence, Blackburn have had a mini-revival, true, but things must still be edgy there. Wigan just aren’t cutting it.

      So get in front of that lot – lots of six pointers to be played – and we will do it.

      However the management situation, each and all of the 3ms – what can I say, could we leave it for another day?

      It’s got to change, an embarrassment really.

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    Welsh Wolf

    Like Leicester Wolf I too have followed Wolves since 1948 and gladly have fond memories of The Cream of Europe Wolves in their prime when they were a joy to watch. I think crowds of 55,000 plus for “Friendly” matches proves this point.
    Following the pathetic and lethargic displays supplied to the Wolves fans, who have stuck through them thick and thin,this season, it is about time that the current playing staff ( not a Team ) gave 100% every game in a last chance to save yet again a terrible season. M.M. says nobody will sell suitable players hence no “reasonable buys” yet Q.P.R another struggling team sack the Manager and give the new one money to buy 5 new players including an Enqland striker. No doubt these efforts may keep them up at the expense of Wolves

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    Wolfhound

    Martin Swain both you and Spiers are part of the problem keeping McCarthy in a job why dont you do the town and fans a favour and write the truth about this clown and his assistant the performance last night was diabolical anybody with an ounce of footballing knowledge knows McCarthy is not a Premiership manager and never will be he will be taking us down this season if allowed to continue the signings will make little difference until we rid ourselves of this incompetant fool you could tell last night the fans have had enough.

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    • todd

      SPOT ON, and add that shower on WM to the list of shame; But Matt Murray took the biscuit last night on Beacon saying, “well the lads will be hurting, they know they did not do themselves justice, but they will have to pick themselves up, dust down, move on and put on a show at QPR”; with media comment like that, no wonder MM, JM, SM are believing their own spin;

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    St Neots Wulf

    Watched the game last night and we are still unable to pass and move, tackle, close down etc etc.
    I truly believe that Morgan is taking the club forward , but his loyalty to a Mgr who’s best attributes are managing in the Championship seem totally baffling. His business accumen is high, yet he tolerates inept Mngtmt at the team level when any other Snr Mngr in his company would haev been gone long ago.
    MM delivered his oprime objective.. Promotion.. his is not able/ capable of moving the club forward.. his is capable of destroying good young players.. Surman.. and hammill will be next into the wilderness only to be snapped up and shine brightly in the Prem.
    SM will not fire him now –who can do better..most people would have seen his dismissal as somehwat unfair at the start of the season but look at Sunderland/WBA –it’s a results driven game..and MM is out of his depth…
    We missed the boat by not recruiting O.neill at season start and now are left with a curate’s Egg.. whatever SM does will be wrong.
    It grieves me that a squad of players that should be middle table/ level at least with The Albion is so bereft of confidence and laedership…How many of the Swamsea / WBA / Norwich team would you take ahead of Hen’sy/Fletch / Dopyle / Jarvis / O’Hara??
    fact is were doomed unless some miracle happens.. and the torment of listened were building again for the future is a spectre that will haunt us again over the coming 2-3 seasons.. What a malaise..
    SM / JM.. you have failed to manage and act when needed.. I hope you reciognise it !

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  80. 80
    Fed Up Wolf

    Putting the Wolves situation in context, Steve Morgan would not dismiss McCarthy before the transfer window closed because… a new manager would require more players which in turn cost money and that is something Morgan will not give!
    McCarthy is a Morgan type of man for he does what he is told, goes along with the Morgan plan and does so without question. This allows MM to be at Molineux for as long as Morgan stays, so no need for motivation or indeed heroics, just go along nice and steady.
    Jez Moxey meanwhile as Morgan’s banker, keeps a tight rein on the finances so any hopes of buying quality players is a total no-go!
    The subject of finances brings into question how much money was actually available. Were the recent transfers of Keogh, sold to Millwall, Vokes to Brighton on loan, Guedioura to Nottingham Forest on loan, Griffiths and Doherty to Hibernian on loan plus the others who have also gone out on loan – yes some have left to gain experience – needed to make money available?
    As Wolves were quoted as saying recently they could not afford the loan fee for Onuoha but amazingly could afford the loan fee for Bassong at the 11th hour, it certainly appears to be the case and was Bassong a cheaper option?
    Taking into account the redevelopment plans which have been suspended with the funds being diverted to the Academy building work, it gives the suggestion that finances are at a very low ebb.
    If this should prove to be true, then Morgan has effectively cut off funding the team of any further permanent strengthening but will it seems provide whatever it takes to rebuild Molineux, which when completed, he will no doubt sell at a nice little profit on his initial £10 investment!
    So the message is Wolves fans, keep turning up for each home game, the team we all know needs strengthening but now the window has closed the club can do no more until the Summer. Mick McCarthy will of course remain as manager, for what is the point in sacking him now? And is there anyone out there who is better and most importantly would not want a fat salary or want to bring in expensive players which the club neither wants nor will pay for? Wolves after all is a solvent club and will not be in debt to anyone!
    So enjoy the rest of the season and don’t forget to buy your ‘early-birds’, they offer great value for money.
    Unfortunately what league the Wolves will be in is somewhat of a mystery at the moment but maybe you can guess? A free programme to anyone with the right answer!

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  81. 81
    Wolfhound

    3 hard matches in six days and playing away they were fitter faster and sharper and made us look like a divison one club it has to be the coaching.

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    • English Exile

      I agree with you.
      There is NO excuse for them being fitter, faster and sharper than us at all.
      Yes they have better players than us but they should not be fitter, faster, sharper or better organised. THAT IS DOWN TO THE MANAGER AND HIS COACHES.
      Tony Daley fitness coach?? Never saw him play he was always bloody injured….

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  82. 82
    wednesbury wolves

    Will be doing a Leeds and southampton, thanks for nothing, Morgan Poxey yorkshire puff and clipboard. Poxey delusional,last 2 seasons we have been saved by portsmouth been deducted 10 points, last season by pavyluchenko and hunt. Morgan please give it back to sir jack as a goodwill gesture, at least sir jack has gold and black at heart!!!!!

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  83. 83
    smithy

    Calmed down a bit now I have had time to reflect, Thaw out,and put my nearly empty wallet away {and It’s only Tuesday night] after paying and putting up with another inept performance to all those involved with this present Molineux set up of what was yet another sorry night for the supporters of a once proud club. At least my Sympathetic and caring Missus was waiting for me with a cup of tea with a drop of whiskey in it But even she as convinced me that I want my head tapping suffering this dross every home game,And says she could manage them better than Mick, And you know what I believe her,And that is me definatly finished until changes are made to this present set up sell up, or make changes in the staff pitchside. Before you happy clappers try to get in touch with me I won’t let her do it,I could go on about last night but to cut a long story short all the mistakes and poor football that we have repeatedly seen all season, And have been promised to be put right time after time } Were there again in abundance last night.I have come to the conclusion Wolves are a millionaires plaything for Morgan,Unlike say the likes of Robert Plant who shows such passion and emotion when he watches the game Morgan does’t talk to the fans and I am sure now he is not a bloke interested in the football side of Molineux.Forget FrimPong?BasSong? ,Batman & Robin won’t save {Joker Morgan}{Penguin Moxey} from this cow Dong they are shoveling up and giving the fans at present,Hope Mccarthy goes in the morning,Can’t see it though He is happy with is lot and ain’t costing the other two partners in crime any money. New manager for me? Lets mug Blues quick for Chris Houghton Went there after they sold their best players,Worked with no money,{Should fit in here then}And has got them winning again and scoring for fun.

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  84. 84
    Wolfhound

    Any respect I had for McCarthy is long gone this bloke has no pride in his work or himself,the decent thing he should have done this morning is resign but no he digs into his bag of excuses as normal.

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  85. 85
    Wolfhound

    I dont understand the soft journalism being peddled to the Wolves fans maybe Mr Swain and Mr Spiers are worried about not being invited back to the boardroom for drinks afterwards.

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  86. 86
    old wolf

    Dear me – how depressing.
    I am proud to be a Wolves fan and love the fact that I can see them every week on TV. But if we have to step down a level to re-build, gain confidence and start winning games – then fine. I will still pay to watch, I will still buy the shirt and we will be back.
    Always look on the bright side of life, da dum, da dum de dum de dum.

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  87. 87
    Wolfhound

    Mr Morgan if are are too frightened to sack McCarthy and Clipboard I will personally volunteer,McCarthy and his idiot sidekick will be gone in seconds trust me.

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  88. 88
    todd

    Mick McCarthy quote,”that was unacceptable”, it was Michael, but not as unacceptable as you are; Ditto the two ‘money-men’who seem to live in a parallel universe, oblivious to the angst of the hard working fans;

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  89. 89
    Terry's All Gold & Black

    There is only one answer to this mess as far as I can see.

    We should start waving banners around the ground and bombarding the club and press with MORGAN OUT demands rather than aim all our frustration at McCarthy. I’m not saying lay off McCarthy completely but we are concentrating too much on him when it is this excuse for a football club owner who is the
    real problem with our CLUB.

    We all know that McCarthy hasn’t got a clue at this level, his tactics are shocking at times, but he puts a shift in whilst our diabolical owner builds houses and real estate. Only when he personally starts getting the bad publicity will he do something about it, in my view.

    McCarthy and Conner (who’s been here far too long and without justification) need to be shipped out – but it won’t happen by us calling for McCarthy’s head all the time. He is so arrogant that he doesn’t care a jot about the fans or numpties and will happily take the flack ad infinitum for his boss as long as he is drawing his wages. Even if it means relegation. Morgan will continue to make money in the Championship without having to pay too much out (that’s a joke!) and McCarthy will be drawing the same wages. The only ones to pay out more will be us if we are stupid enough to do so.

    Morgan needs to either start showing that he cares for Wolverhampton as a club rather than a place to pause in whilst he lines his own pockets with real estate he can make a massive profit on at a later date, or ship out.

    I personally don’t believe that he has the CLUB’s interest at heart and as I’ve said before, he would never have allowed his beloved Liverpool to get anywhere near this state. Can you imagine what the Liverpool fans would have said and done if he had acted the same way with their club (I know, it would never have happened) but if it had, the fans would have had him out PDQ.

    Fans are the only ones that can make that happen. by throwing all the critisism (justifiably so in my opinion) at him so that council leaders and the press can see how we feel.

    Until that happens, Morgan will continue to build houses and not a club and McCarthy will continue to take us down.

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  90. 90
    steve io

    Mike you have but this team together,no fight no bite no class no nothing .By your interview after the game , even you dont know what to do.Please go.

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  91. 91
    Leon

    Please leave our club alone Mick, how many times do we have to hear you got it wrong.. How many times do we have to lose, how long do we have to look back to remember us winning matches. This season has been a flop.. Why play that anonymous Jonsson? 3 matches I have seen this eggert play and he has hardly touches the ball. He has been the worst player on the pitch every time. When he has touched the ball he has just gifted it away..

    Mick has lost the plot with formations, tactics and player selections. I was hoping he would resign overnight. If he cared for this club he would pass it on to someone who can save us.. Instead of ploughing on regardless. The whole thing is just one big joke.. Bottom of the table and we spend no money over January.. On another not can someone get Hennessy some hand strengthening training, he seems to be letting in too many silly goals due to limp hands.

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  92. 92
    ChristheCrowe

    Re. 15 Lesterwolf, I could not have put in words any better than you. We have followed this great club and been priviiged to witness with pride the likes of Cullis, Wright, Flowers who inspired us to support Wolves.
    Good call from 19. GlosWolf1952, get Roy Keane in. He will bust a gut to turn things around with the extra motivation of proving a point to the muppet. If not Wilkins/Keegan will do a job. Just do it Moxey/Morgan

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  93. 93
    Jon306

    What winds me up the most is the seemingly blind faith from the board that everything will be alright in the end. we have gone backwards in our 3 seasons in the premiership under the current regime and yet they are adamant McCarthy is the man for the job. To be fair I think a lot of the blame lies with the obvious poor standard of coaching we have, clipboard connor has been at the club about 7 years too long. We need something new and fresh. That said surely McCarthy should be able to see that as well?
    The qpr game for me is the biggest single game the club has had in the last few years. Win it and all of a sudden we are above them in the league bac in with a chance. Lose it and it’s certain relegation for me.
    Its time for all the silly mistakes to stop, time to stop with stupid comments to the press and time for the players to step up and show what they are actually capable of. They have let the fans down big time this season, fans who will be there long after they have made a small fortune out of our club and moved on or retired with a nice bank balance.
    Personally I’d go for the siege mentality now, shut the door to the outside world, no players talking to the press, us against the world mentality.

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  94. 94
    Hartlebury Torch Man

    I cannot see any other outcome other than the removal of McCarthy and Clipboard by the weekend. I cannot see any flash of revival until the spark plugs are changed. This team is down and out at the moment, and they are not getting any lift from the current set up. Time to wake up and smell the coffee!!

    At least I have the Ramapril to help me! And a few cliches!

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  95. 95
    laughingwolf

    Absolute discrace last night and to me it is blindingly obvious that Mick has lost the Dressing room.

    If we lose to QPR he MUST GO. For what he has done for the club I would really like him to say ‘I have taken this club as far as I can’ and not be sacked.

    My choice is Chris Hughton. Pay Blues the compensation and get him here. A young, up and coming Manager who’s teams play football and he has over achieved wherever he has been.

    My team V QPR:

    Hennessey

    Foley
    Bassong
    Johnson
    Ward

    Hammill
    Frimpong
    O’Hara
    Jarvis

    Doyle (in the hole)

    Fletcher

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    • English Exile

      At last, someone else that realises that Berra is a liability, He is the worst centre half this club has had since Derek Jefferson.
      Last season when the crunch was on McCarthy left him out of the team and we just managed to escape.
      I thought he (MM) had learn’t his lesson but no, Berra’s been a liability all season.
      If you watch Berra closely he hasn’t got a clue what is going on behind or around him. He is ONE BIG LIABILITY and I see MM is going to offer him a new contract. Says it all don’t it.
      If you need a second opinion look at the Scotland supporters web site and see what his fellow countrymen think of him…..

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  96. 96
    Sir Willy Quiet

    lets get on to the big issues of the day…..why do fans/commentators (see 19) keep referring to all things football as delicious……as in pass, cross, shot, corner, goal…..and now irony – losing 3-0 at home to Liverpool doesnt show on the radar

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  97. 97
    Sir Billy Quite

    As someone who is firmly in the ‘Happy Clapper’ camp let me just say those that are knocking Steve Morgan and his plan to develope the Stadium and Training Ground are misguided.

    Morgan’s skills are based on building things and that’s what he is focusing on, he thought in MM he had someone that he could rely on to develope the team, it appears he (and many others, me included) were wrong.

    We have brought in Frimpong and Bassong compare that to WBA – Ridgewell and Andrews – we have recruited two Premiership players with good quality they have got in a couple of journeymen….

    I am sad to say that the problem is MM and the time has come for change.

    Don’t alienate Morgan – he is a good honest businessman underwriting the future of our club.

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    • Wolfhound

      You are probaly right about Steve Morgan I saw his face at the Moll last night and it was full of anger, he should now take the decision to replace McCarthy if he lets McCarthy stay then I have my doubts about his motives.

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    • Wolf Since '66

      While I hope Frimpong and Bassong can help turn this sinking ship around I do wonder if they really are the Premiership quality we need. One has hardly played yet, and the other hasn’t played for ages. In any event, any quality they do have will soon be coached out of them. Harry and the Whinger may regret it long term.

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    • English Exile

      Quiet,
      We have not brought Frimpong or Bassong we have borrowed them.
      They spent REAL money, we didn’t.
      We wanted Ridgewell but MOXEY failed again.

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  98. 98
    Cuddly Dudley

    We have what we have from now until the end of the season. Clearly Steve Morgan isn’t going to sack MM, but, to be honest what’s the point? One thing McCarthy brings to the table is motivation (although you wouldn’t have thought that last night). Maybe, just maybe, with Bassong in and O’Hara back he might yet turn it around.
    One thing was clear last night we missed Karl Henry. He was a total prat getting himself banned like that, but, I doubt Liverpool would have had the space they enjoyed if he’d been on the pitch.
    We were lucky to be 0-0 at half time with more individual mistakes in defence than I’ve seen all season. Poor old Kevin Foley had a nightmare and in the second half Johnsson’s defending for the opening goal was schoolboy stuff. How did he let a carthorse with a pony tail get to that ball first ?
    God forbid we play like that against QPR and the next home match !

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    • Wolfhound

      I have to disagree I think McCarthy has lost the dressing room and is incapable of motivating the players further,I would not be suprised if RJ is not having a part to play in getting shut of McCarthy,as Kevin Philips said he was suprised abot RJs move to molineux as both McCarthy and him were outspoken strong characters.The truth is McCarthy is not good enough for this division and needs to be replaced before he inflicts further damage.

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      • Farmer Ted

        No. McCarthy hasn’t lost the dressing room, that’s unfair and just pure conjecture on your part. He IS starting to lose the fan’s support and as Cuddley Dudley says if we lose to The Baggies….perish thew thought !
        This game of football can turn quite quickly. A result at Loftus Road against a team with too many newcomers and a win against Albion and everything will be sweet again.
        Having said all that, after his little “not satisfactory” outburst a couple of weeks ago I cannot understand why Steve Morgan didn’t give Moxey and McCarthy the money to strengthen where we can all see it needs it.

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  99. 99
    Dinglewoody

    MCCARTHY OUT!! MCCARTHY OUT!! MCCARTHY OUT!! – SIMPLE AS THAT!! – GROW A BACKBONE MORGAN BEFORE ITS ALL TOO LATE!!

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  100. 100
    G&B

    OK last nights performance was depressingly bad & I am hurting as much as the next true Wolves supporter, but lets not throw the towel in just yet. There still 15 games to go & it is really tight at the bottom of the league, the other teams down there are struggling too & we still have to play them all. What ever you think of Mick McCarthy, he is the Wolves manager & at games we should always support him & the team. Although results have been terrible lately we dont want a “Blackburn” type situation where their manager was vilified & insulted by a section of their fans. Be careful what you wish for, there are no outstanding replacements available at the minute, if we do change the manager now we dont want to be lumbered with another Glenn Hoddle. Mick knows the score, if the results remain poor then he will lose his job. Up the Wolves!

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  101. 101
    MACTHEWOLF

    Surprise surprise we have lost again because Mr MORGAN has failed to act, he like the majority of supporters must have known that MM and his team were out of their depth.
    My question to him was why did he think MM etc would turn it round when his stats show he is incapable of managing at this level.
    Mr MORGAN whilst we appreciate what you are doing with the stadium please get your head out of the sand and get rid of this incompetent management.
    Now we have lost out on the big three get Steve COPPLE in with Dougie FREEDMAN at least the team might then able to pass the ball forward instead of our usual side ways, back and big boot.
    Mr MORGAN YOU MUST HAVE ALSO NOTICED THAT THE STADIUM WILL BE EMPTY NEXT SEASON DUE TO THE FACT THAT SEASON TICKETS WILL NOT BE SOLD.

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  102. 102
    RichWolf64

    lol at 97 Sir Billy

    You’ve spent years defending McCarthy and now you have switched to defending Morgan.

    I’m Sorry Sir Billy but, just like McCarthy, you are hoplessly out of your depth.

    The blame lies at all 3m’s doors.

    Moxey is cluesless on anything football matters. It’s his scrimping and refusing to pay either the going rate for wages or the going rate in transfer fees that is part to blame.

    It’s also McCarthy as he is never in a million years a premiership quality manager.

    He’s assembled the most expensive Wolves team in history and its frankly at best, mid table championship quality.

    And its Steve Morgan for the folly that is the new North Bank and the 55 homes he’s building in the name of Wolves at Compton where it was obvious to all bar those that are blind, that the investment was needed on the pitch first and foremost.

    So I’m sorry, all 3 should shoulder some blame but let’s start with getting it right. Cancel the Compton re-build which is unnecessary and serves only to line Morgans pocket, sack McCarthy and get a new man in NOW.

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    • Russell

      Funny how its always easy to blame others when its not actually you putting your hand in your pocket. We need more people like Morgan runnung clubs on a sound footing and if we go down then so be it. I want to see less silly money / wages spent on football, not more. That should apply to all clubs. The Man U’s of this world will not always be at the top of the table and when they do eventually lose form and slide can you imagine the mess they will be in.

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    • Ted The Wolves

      Spot on

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  103. 103
    Dave O

    97 Sir Billy

    As you know from my posts I am not an Happy Clapper but I entirely agree with your comments about alienating Steve Morgan and the fact that he thought he had people he could trust on the football management side.
    Admire your honesty about MM I just wish he had been able to make me eat my statistics.

    But here they are

    7 pts from 9 pts first 3 matches
    11 pts from 60 pts last 20 matches
    Pre-match MM said we just need 6 pts each month till the end of the season it could happen what a load of old bull.
    At our present rate we will need 36 matches to get these points oh dear. TAXI!!!!!!!

    Message to Steve Morgan please stick with Wolves and finish the job you have started, I have only one question to ask, if you had taken over at Liverpool would you have ever considered MM as your manager ????

    One more thing Who was the Super star who’s manager wouldn’t let him come according to JM

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  104. 104
    Sir Billy Quite

    RichWolf64 and the rest of the ‘sack the board’ numpties – follow your argument through and lets get rid of the 3Ms.

    What then? no owner? no money? no club?

    Unless of course you think you can organise a fans buy out?

    I doubt it, you’ve spent 5 years calling for MM to be sacked but you have failed to organise any protests or even a banner.

    RichWolf64 you are spineless with your constant sniping on an E&S website, empty words my friend, why not get off your key board and get your ar*e up the Molineux with a 3Ms OUT banner??

    No you would rather pretend that by typing a few words on the E&S website that you have a view worth listening too.

    No idea, clueless, spineless, cowardly Numpty.

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    • streako

      here you go sir billy read this and now respond !!!!

      do us all a favour sir billy and just go and take your inept delusional ramblings with you, it is not only micks fault but more so MORGANS AND MOXEYS, look at the bigger picture and ask yourself what are morgans real intentions are for wolves, why build a new stadium, we didnt need one, why build a new training ground, why buy the land on the waterloo rd and not do anything with it we didnt need one, why build 55 new lush homes on green belt area ermmm …. why is he doing a multi million pound house build just outside liverpool so why buy wolves ? eRm TAX BREAK THATS WHY ! wake up and take your head out of your backside , once just for once otherwise clear off !

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    • Sir Lupi

      Hear hear!

      I understand the frustration of alot of the fans on here, I too am just as disappointed with this season.

      But some of you are absolutely raving mad. Sack the board!?? Then what??

      Im sticking with Mick, and clutching to the slim hope he and these new signings can rustle up a good run as the fixtures for February and March do look favourable.

      It ay over yet.

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  105. 105
    My Head Hurts

    Ive just read on the website that Johnson thought we were not in any danger the 1st half!!! Not sure what game he was playing in as although we created a few half chances Liverpool had several chances including the one in the 1st few minutes. We have the worst record in the league for tackles and with the constant back-pedalling as highlighted in the Bellamy goal you can see why.
    Im sure after watching a few re-runs of the match Mick will say it will be the Ball Boys fault for giving Liverpool the ball back to quickly for the 1st goal…

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  106. 106
    Jack Dunne

    Well, thats it for me, I give up, can;t take anymore, been a Wolves fan for almost 60 years, lived with the ups and downs, but this is a disgrace, a very badly run team, how can you start Jonsson, he was lost out there and to pay 6 million for Johnson, what a waste. The very best Wolves can hope for is an 18th place finish, no way can they catch Bolton and QPR are spending and bringing in quality, I am too old to wait for an improvement, if it ever comes. I will delete all websites connected to WWFC and move on, I am not a fair weather friend, but this is too much to take, we had the time and opportunities to improve and did’nt. Goodbye and good luck

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  107. 107
    wanderer in eire

    Dear 3 “M,s”,

    I am afraid that you have let the club and fans down something terribly.
    It as been very apparent from a long time that “MM” required serious ammunition not quantity but quality.MM as failed misserably at this level and will continue to do so,”MM” is a tryer and no one doubts this,I am also sure he is hurting,his pride as blinded him from realising that at this level he is just not upto the job.Especially considering the amount of experience he as gained in Management over 20yrs!.
    A large part of the time spent in the premiership we have heard him repeat himself 100′s of times yet the poor performances and results have remained.
    It was only a few weeks ago when he said “I cannot beleive a team of mine performed like that!” yet he is saying the same of the second half performance last night.
    Our team generally look out of place on a football pitch.
    Please take of your “GLASSES” and just study the way we play PLEASE.
    Look at each game played since are arrival in the premiership and nothing as changed,we make constant basic schoolboy errors in defence,we pass the ball sideways and backwards more than any other team,we dont create enough and very rarely look like scoring,other than when we are losing a game,then sometimes we attack and look to get something out of the game.
    We have players completely out of form who constantly get picked,we have young players come in do as good job as the current players yet they are not seen again.
    I would request that I and a few others on this forum take over the reigns in relation to team matters,we will do it for “FREE” with the guarantee “WE WILL WIN THE 6-7 WINS REQUIRED FOR SAFETY”! Can Mick do this? 3.5yrs of management at this level and his win ratio is 14.2% on that basis he will win 2-3 games..This statistic is not over 10 games its around “150″ games!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
    This is apparent to all true fans that the “BEST INTERESTS OF THE CLUB ARE WAY DOWN THE LIST”!
    So it is very easy to conclude and with “justification” that “3m’s” have to be realeased of their duties.
    THIS IS A SERIOUS CASE OF MISMANAGEMENT AND ABUSE OF THE FANS AND THE CLUBS HISTORY AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORK AT THIS CLUB,THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR 20GRAND A YEAR ETC.
    YOU HAVE PUT THE FUTURE OF THE CLUB IN DOUBT IF THIS WAS DONE WITH EVERY EFFORT TO PREVENT SUCH A TRAGEDY IT WOULD BE EASIER TO TAKE.
    THIS HOWEVER AS BEEN DUE TO NEGLIGENCE OF A VERY SERIOUS NATURE BY THE “3 MENTIONED”.
    SO PLEASE LEAVE AS THIS WILL LEAVE YOU WITH A FAMILIAR RESULT “DEFEAT”!

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    • PeteNuts

      Is there any way at all we can persuade you to stop posting? You make us all look like we’re insane by association, and your random eruptions of unsuitable punctuation and baffling deployment of capital letters is liable to cause migraines in the untrained reader.

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  108. 108
    wolf

    sir billy quiet

    you are a numpty

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    • streako

      well said wish i could met him wonder what sort of bloke he is all mouth by the sound of it actions speak louder than words sir billy put up or shut up

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  109. 109
    Sofa Wolf

    Thought The Invisible Man was a fictional character but i was wrong. He’s wearing the Wolves No 22 shirt.

    The whole scouting system is totally inept , indicative of a club that tries to do everything on the cheap. Even the building work in the new stand looks cheap and tacky.

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  110. 110
    wolf

    sir billy about morgan

    cast your mind back when we signed roger johnson it was reported in the E&S and the headline read wolves are poised to sign roger johnson and that was it but morgan decided to delay the outcome of the signing and decided that the announcement of the training ground and plans were of the most importants and made the fans wait until the following day for the signing explaining they did not want to take the shine of the t ground plans that says it all about morgan fans came second like we are now

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  111. 111
    Desborough Wolf

    It’s all been said hasn’t it. Except lets remind ourselves of the three M’s individually, McCarthy said he was happy with the squad at the beginning of the season. Really?? Morgan says nothing and hasn’t a clue how to run a football club. By the way we saw last night the first open sign of a temper from him. Great, might he decide to cut his losses, And Moxey. He will do the bidding of whoever is in charge. We were only in the position we were in when McCarthy joined because if you all remember Moxey didn’t want Hoddle (yes Hoddle) to leave.
    And the three of them don’t like and can’t take criticism. I quite enjoy watching the best football teams in the land and you three clowns by your gross dereliction of duty are going to take that away from all of us.

    PLEASE ALL OF YOU IN THE NAME OF DECENCY. GO.

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  112. 112
    mark

    mick mccarthy was a defender,so why cant he
    see that the defense is rubbish,too slow for
    starters allways out of position,all hes managed to do since we went up is buy roger johnson again to slow with out scott dan to help him,hes had many chances to do some thing about this back 4 but done nowt, ever one can see it thats why we dont keep clean sheets,every 1 can see it bar mick time 2 go
    sorry 2 many seasons still not got it right,
    how many more chances do people want 2 give him.

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  113. 113
    Steviewolf

    MM is one of the lowest paid Premiership managers, could that be why Moxey & Morgan are sticking with him?

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  114. 114
    RichWolf64

    Sir billy

    You are Forrest Gump aren’t you??

    Where did I advocate sacking the boards? Please tell me , I’m all ears!!

    I can’t believe you, of all people, have the nerve to show your face on here! You who has been slating all the true Wolves fans on here for the last, what, two years?

    Remember, Wardy the left back argument? How good it was to build a new stand for the future argument? Micks the most successfull manager in 30 years ?

    Sir Billy Gump – For the record, I have no interest in organsing a fans out march or anything similar, I just want our spineless chairman to sack the manager or our manager to resign. Either please!

    Finally, I’m not spineless I’m passionate about Wolves, thats why I have a point of view.

    You don’t, you just slate the fans that don’t agree with you, week in week out,now that’s spineless. I bet you wouldn’t do it to their faces would you now?

    You have proved to be a crass idiot and continue to do so. Keep up the good work, I love it, it would get boring with everyone agreeing all of the time!

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    THE MATHS TEACHER

    Championship mentality+Championship Manager+Championship wages+Championship squad =Championship.Where we truly belong.RIP premiership.

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    bringbacksammychung

    It is not too late for a managerial change. If he stays in charge we will go down and if we make a change we have a chance. Take a punt on Paul Tisdale of Exeter.

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    stevieG droitwich wolf

    Just three words for the 3M’s

    OH MY GOD

    Enough sed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  118. 118
    stevieG droitwich wolf

    We found it difficult to get near them as they were playing around us.

    Sorry rog but thats part of the game or didnt clipboard drill that into u in training.

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  119. 119
    rich5wolves

    yeah to be fair Sir Billie you are the numpty, richwolf64 or whatever he calls himself is entitled to question Morgan.

    If you say he is the good business man then how come he cannot identify when a change of management is needed? Thats all part of business afterall.

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    Ted The Wolves

    Can we send the plans back to the council and turn the new stand into a muti car park,

    May as well it will be empty next season!!!!

    We had chance in the window to sort this mess.

    Accept it we are going down, Its so upsetting that with all the hard work that they have done the MMM’s are happy to throw it all away.

    When we go down Mr Morgan are your house’s going cheap!!!!!

    Always Wolves.

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    rich5wolves

    Decided today not to bother renewing my ticket. Going to strange not having one but ill just go to a few early games and get loyalty points so I can pick and choose which ones I want to bother going to.

    Im so frustrated with it all, Morgan and Mick in particular, suppose Moxey must be in that bunch too.

    I can envisage a fair few of us not bothering next year. Will they reduce ticket prices when we go down? or just freeze them at Premiership price level where they are now??

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    Waffle Wolf

    I’ve just seen that Leeds have sacked Simon Grayson, despite still being well placed for the play offs. I say this, not to start a campaign to get him in as Manager but to highlight the different philosophy behind Leed’s thinking compared with that at Wolves.

    Leeds explanation was “we needed to make the change at this time in the belief that a new managerial team will be able to get more out of the existing squad of players and make the difference.”

    Roger Johnson is quoted on these pages as saying “Changing the manager isn’t going to change what the players do on the pitch.”

    If his thinking is shared at the top, we have our answer as to why some teams act and Wolves don’t.

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  123. 123
    The Flying Winger

    Why is he still here?

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  124. 124
    Leon

    Has Mick quit yet?

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    Wenger's waterbottle

    Just a question or two.

    How many of you so called Wolves fans commenting on here have placed a bet on McCarthy leaving Wolves?

    and How many of those have managed a Premier side?

    If I had a bet I would be calling for him to go every day and every hour?

    But as I have not then we must start a ‘Stick with Mick’ campaign for the long term future of Wolves. Instead, lets get rid of Sporting Bet and all its implications.
    The real losers are the ones who bet on failure.

    We are staying up, we are…..

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    • SOUTHWICK WOLF

      Nice name Pal, good cover too. Now I’m going to copy and paste your comment into my little black book. Personally, I’m in favour of off loading McCarthy as soon as possible as I believe we have some good players capable of doing a good job in the Prem and that they would respond to a manager who was less arrogant and more respected by players than this one is.

      Here’s the deal Mr Waterbottle: after the last game of the season, one or the other of us will will be good enough to admit we were wrong about the last line in your post. If we stick with Mick, we’re going down for sure.

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    • bewes

      have you ever put a pair of boots on ?

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    • BearWOOD WOLF

      Get real. 2 wins in 22 and you think we are staying up. HAHAHAHA Get used to the fact that wolves are going down and sinking fast we have a spineless owner who is more interested in building homes then investing HEAVILY with the playing staff, a CEO who has more spins than Greame swann and a manager who lets face it and statistically has the worst premiership record as a manager for all the teams he has managed. CLUELESS!!!!

      Fans I sat with in the south bank more or less said we are a club in crisis, the warning signs were last year when we fluked survival and wolves 3M’s think signing 1 defender was all we needed.

      PATHETIC! Next 2 matches are against QPR & BAGGIES which I think 4 points should be minimum. But all sense and purposes we will lose both and by then its championship time!

      If there is one manager out there who can motivate and galvanise a club is Keegan. But he wont leave ESPN so we have got clueless mick and clipboard for the rest of the season. I for one I am disappointed that Steve Morgan has not sacked him. AS for MOXEY, I am awaiting his new spin on “how close he was trying to bring players into the club rubbish!”

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    Chillo Wolf

    We were in the same position this time last season but i had hope an optimism that we would survive …

    I have no such hope this season. I will be amazed if we stay up. Why oh why didn’t we bring in a striker?

    Goals are the only thing that will keep us up.

    All hope has gone i’m afraid

    Feel so dejected

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    Robert Perry

    97 Sir Billy,your faith in Morgan is totally misplaced. There is only one way he is taking this club and that is downwards. He is totally responsible for the mess we are in.Never forget he is a Liverpool fan who tried to buy that club years ago. His interest in Wolves FC is fleeting. As soon as he has finished his land and property developments he will be off(Having made a nice tidy profit no
    doubt!)

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    bewes

    merlin has excelled himself this time, it usually takes him a month but this time its only took him a week ! any player that shows inspirational / attacking qualities our (aherm) manager knocks it out of them .frimpong looked the answer in midfield ,then low and behold muckarfbrain and o,clueless get hold of him in training.

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    London Bloke

    108- Wolf & Streako. Are you the same person? Pete Nuts is right, you peddle your nonsense on here and expect the illiterate dross to be taken seriously? Put up and shut up about what?

    And Streako, to deal with your question the other day, no I have absolutely no idea who you are and if you wish to resort to more childish and agressive insults, go ahead as it’s not making you look any cleverer.

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    TelfWolf

    125

    Can you please tell me what pub you drink in so I can have a pint of what you are drinking.

    Thanks.

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    Finlays-son

    Cannot believe I woke up this morning to find the muppet still there. Maybe Roger Johnson will help to dislodge him, wouldn’t surprise me. I think there is a lot going on behind the scenes. I feel sorry for the players. Mick is responsible, he manages the team, does selection etc. Agree with earlier post, call Roy Keane. he will not need any motivating to show what a difference a new manager can make. Keano will not be afraid to actto srt it out

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