Traffic census causing rush hour chaos
Thursday 27th May 2010, 11:30AM BST.
Thousands of motorists are being delayed in rush hour by an army of surveyors asking them about their journeys.
Drivers across the region are being pulled over on their way to work to be asked everything from the type of fuel in their car to where exactly they are going.
Bosses say the £900,000 project, funded by councils, Centro and the Highways Agency, is to get a better understanding of how roads and rails are used so money can be better spent in the future on projects such as motorway widening and high speed train links.
But motorists have been left angry at the delays the surveys have caused.
Workers either question people at the scene, or hand over forms to fill in and send back with the offer of entry into a prize draw as an incentive not to disregard them.
Traffic built up today and yesterday on Gospel End Road, at Wombourne, when a team of police and contractors pulled over drivers on the A449 near Wodehouse Island.
A survey was also being carried out on Wolverhampton’s Wergs Road yesterday.
Kitchen fitter Jonathan Stevens, aged 28, from Wombourne, said: “There was already quite a lot of traffic built up around Wombourne island early yesterday because some lanes had been blocked off due to the census.
“There were signs telling drivers that some would be pulled over and police officers directed cars over to take part in the survey.
“Four or five cars in front of mine were instructed to move over into the lay-by, where four or five people were standing with clipboards to ask questions.
“Roads around the island are already busy, especially at rush hour, and this made the traffic much worse.”
Financial controller Steve Brown, aged 35, from Kidderminster, said his journey to work in Wolverhampton was delayed by 20 minutes yesterday as traffic stretched back on the A449 for half a mile.
Mr Brown said today he felt the real reason for the questionnaire was to ask about car parking charges, as there have been proposals in the past to charge companies for car parking.
“You have to question doing this survey in the rush hour,” he added
Another motorist, a 47-year-old charity worker, was on his way into work in All Saints, Wolverhampton, from Kingswinford when he was caught up in yesterday’s delays.
He told the Express & Star there was caught in a three-mile jam leading up to the survey site.
He said: “My journey to work which usually takes 15-20 minutes, but I left at 8.05am and arrived at 8.55am all because they were doing this census.
“There was no publicity about it and no warning.
“I thought the police presence was way over the top. We have a lot of trouble with anti-social behaviour in our area and we can’t get a police officer.
“I think people would have been frightened with the way that they were pulled over.
“It was a totally inappropriate.”
Chris Haynes, head of transportation strategy at Birmingham City Council, defended the survey, which is being carried out throughout the spring and autumn.
He said: “We’re trying to get a picture of how journeys have changed since 2000. “We’re trying to speak to as many people as possible.
“There’s no obligation at all to answer any of the questions but we’d like to get people’s co-operation at the end of the day because we want to make their journeys better.
“A lot of people work in conurbations but don’t live there and we need to be able to pick those up.
“It is inconvenient but we’re only dong it once every 10 years and it’s for the good of the West Midlands.”
Staffordshire Police said the role of officers was simply to stop vehicles and while some drivers had been “slightly annoyed”, there had been no official complaints.
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Pull in then say sorry not interested and pull away simple as that. It’s what I did!!
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What a load of old tosh,how on earth can this make a journey better haha,just a waste of money period.
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“for the good of the West Midlands”
What a waste of time and money. All this will do is delay people getting to work, myself included, and on a positive note reduce accidents along this stretch of the A449!
The only consolation is they didn’t do it on a Saturday before a Wolves home game, which is when they usually conduct road repairs. I often wonder if the planners are Albion fans…
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If they tell people they’re going to be stopping drivers on a route, then people will avoid it, so the accuracy of the data is questionnable.
Again, are you just pretending to be an ignorant peasant, or are you actually an ignorant peasant from the 18th century who has been trapped in a time warp?
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I’ve been pulled over 3 times in a row. first on M6 J10 on the way to work then then next day at M6 J9 and 2 or 3 days later at J11. I answered the 1st but I told the worker where to stick it by the 3rd after being stuck in more than an hour of extra traffic over the 3 occasions.
Absolute joke.
The highways agency already have the technology to pick out random numberplates as they enter the motorway and trace there route to work (which is what they uses to predict the average journey times on the signs) Can;t they just use that technology.
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Sounds like more non-jobs funded by councils and quangos. It keeps people in work, but unproductive work.
How about this money be spent on genuine junction improvements? I can think of several on my way to work, with minimal costs and maximum benefit.
Instead, my route to work on the A41 has become more onerous as Sandwell council have meddled.
They’ve changed lane markings that have actually created queues where before there were none.
Incredible.
…but then Sandwell council must be one of the worst in the country…and keeps getting voted back in. So what do you expect?
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They were also doing this on the Newton Road last week. We got stopped after coming from a funeral at the crematorium which is less than a mile up the road from where they were stopping people. Its disgusting. They should pick their spots more sensibly.
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But it’s for own good. THEY said so. Fact you’re late for work and could get a tatering from your boss is well worth it!
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Do you have to give the right answers to the questions? I have just decided to travel to St Ives and my car runs on rocket fuel!!
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Got stopped this morning (again) this is my approach to traffic surveys.
When stopped:
Answer the first question with “no comment”
Answer next question “no comment”
You probably will not get asked any other questions, but if you do, you know the answer.
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The Police are the only people with powers to direct traffic. Under no circumstances are the Highways Agency staff to direct, or appear to direct traffic.
Local editors and radio stations are asked to keep publicity to a minimum, as to the exact whereabouts of these surveys, to ensure drivers do not alter their routes and effect the survey’s results.
This data is vital for the Highways Agency as they need to know if cars, lorries and vans are still being used or whether the hover-car (patent pending) is making roads redundant and a sky tax needs to be introduced…
There is no earthly need for these surveys, an unintrusive traffic counter would suffice admirably. The goodwill of the driving public is essential to the continuation of a roadside census so let them know what a waste of time and source of irritation it is.
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Rush,rush, rush just calm down everyone just leave for work a little bit earlier. Its for the good of all us. Just leave for work a little bit earlier put the air-conditioning on in the car,and listen to some sounds, enjoy the scenery and just chill and remember there’s no gain without the pain. Ciao for now folks.
However i was alarmed to see a runner stopped by the cencus folk, they apparently asked him hwere he got his headband from. He looked like Scott Mills
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now now what about the environment with the extra fuel using air con
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Here is something we do want- more trains and buses on Boxing Day so that we can get around the region to go and watch the Wolves.
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I’ll probably find it extremely annoying as I’m not the most patient person when driving anyway. If you see a little city car with steam coming from the drivers ears, just spare a minute to have pity on me…..LOL.
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Delayed at Himley traffic lights for 20 minutes this afternoon because of this pathetic ‘census’ making me late to pick up my 5 year old from school. One of only 3 kids left on the playground and surprise surprise – the other two’s parents were in the same jam as me ! The reasons allegedly behind this are a load of nonsense. Just another example of ‘big brother’ wanting to know some more details about us. There were 3 Police officers from what I could see. How about a bit of high visibility patrol to combat some of the scumbags on the street rather than this waste of time. 3 old bill. 3 10 hr shifts. 30 man hours. £500 ish of wages. Come on. This is basics. The country is on its knees and our ‘protectors’ are doing this…? Rant over……….
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The census was also on Bridgnorth road yesterday I was stopped on my way back from a garden centre.
The thing I find most concerning about all this is the complete waste of police time.
Two Officers (one at each end of the census) and two police cars!!
I don’t know how many census points in total but does it really need policing?
I’m sure that the police could be doing something better like fighting crime, catching burglars, etc……
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Is this all they can waste your money on? couldnt schools, hospitals etc use the money?
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Got caught up in this today, approx 4.45pm, traffic tailing back from himley lights and I joined the end of it just before the crooked house.
The slow crawl added about 25 mins extra to my journey and I wasn’t a happy bunny to find out the reasons why.
Why on earth do it on a single carriageway road ? I just hope no-one needs an ambulance when they perform one of these ridiculous census things.
They were apparently doing it up the road the other day using a layby, which has got to be a slighly more sensible approach. Madness.
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£9000.000 for this poxi thing why not give the money to a childrens hospital or a cancer unit bunch of divs if you ask me what a waste man
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900.000 sorry
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£900k FFS
NINE HUNDRED THOUSAND !!
and pot holes every where still
JESUS !!
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Exactly Paddy. They’re always messing about with roads that are perfectly fine and they don’t bother with the roads that have massive holes in them that damage your car.
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Lee, you should be in government …lol
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No need for a census I can tell all they need to know.
The M6 is busy because its only 1 of 3 routes to get to the north of the country and the only one to get to Liverpool, Manchester and Glasgow.
Yes there is the M6 Toll but that is way too expensive.
10a – 8 of the M6 is busy all day because you have 2 Motorways merge then splitting off again. 5 lanes into 3 then back into 5 again. Pretty obvious that one.
This stretch is made busier by the fact its the only way anyone can get from the North (M6) onto the M5. Another bypass around Wolverhampton is needed.
Wolverhampton is busy because everyone has to drive into the centre first before they can get anywhere.
Sandwell is busy because everyone cuts through to avoid J8
Walsall is busy because you have 50 sets of poorly timed lights to get through.
I’ll tell you what they need to do to cut congestion .
1. Make to toll free.
2. Make J10a – J8 to have 5 fixed running lanes
3. Build the planned western bypass.
No census necessary. that £900,000 could have made a start to buy the toll road from the scumbags that currently own it.
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