Comments on: City ranks bottom in poll of 827 worldwide

Comments on: City ranks bottom in poll of 827 worldwide http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/ Midlands News – West Midlands Local News - UK News Mon, 13 Feb 2012 23:59:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: st joe http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289577 st joe Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:30:38 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289577 Wolverhampton has many problems but one problem it doesn't have is that it will one day fall into the San Andreos fault.It's always good to be given advice from someone who no longers lives here. The crime we have is nothing compared to LA or the USA Wolverhampton has many problems but one problem it doesn’t have is that it will one day fall into the San Andreos fault.It’s always good to be given advice from someone who no longers lives here. The crime we have is nothing compared to LA or the USA

]]> By: Beaker http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289533 Beaker Mon, 08 Feb 2010 09:16:21 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289533 Davi comment 3 and replied to number 4 - I couldn't have put it better myself. Most of the nicest places to visit are a taxi or bus ride out of the "city" centre which is an added cost to anyones trip. The canal and old railway are lovely walks but having run down both of them in both directions (and certainly not alone)you meet all sorts of youth gangs smoking dope and looking menacing. I noticed the other day that W-ton council had put the price of the parking up on the Mander Centre car park again to £2 for upto 2 hours, how does this encourage people to shop there, I went to Shrewsbury on Saturday and paid £3.90 for 24 hours and there is so much more to do there. The big question everyone wants an answer to is what is Wolverhampton Council going to do about the situation. Why don't they put a free tour bus service on in the summer to promote some of these places? Davi comment 3 and replied to number 4 – I couldn’t have put it better myself. Most of the nicest places to visit are a taxi or bus ride out of the “city” centre which is an added cost to anyones trip. The canal and old railway are lovely walks but having run down both of them in both directions (and certainly not alone)you meet all sorts of youth gangs smoking dope and looking menacing. I noticed the other day that W-ton council had put the price of the parking up on the Mander Centre car park again to £2 for upto 2 hours, how does this encourage people to shop there, I went to Shrewsbury on Saturday and paid £3.90 for 24 hours and there is so much more to do there. The big question everyone wants an answer to is what is Wolverhampton Council going to do about the situation. Why don’t they put a free tour bus service on in the summer to promote some of these places?

]]> By: Mark http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289488 Mark Mon, 08 Feb 2010 02:53:40 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289488 I love the "Wolves is a dump" comments along with the "I've lived here for x years". If you don't like it a) move away b) do something to improve it I love the “Wolves is a dump” comments along with the “I’ve lived here for x years”.

If you don’t like it

a) move away
b) do something to improve it

]]> By: Al http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289480 Al Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:37:21 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289480 I agree with this person i,ve lived in Wolverhampton for 43 years. Wolverhampton is a depressing place and if you go to the town most of the people are misrable, if you smile at them they don,t respond and the parking is the worst especially when the races and the footballs on. Your a prisoner in your own home. If you do venture out your sure to come across a hoodie or such. I agree with this person i,ve lived in Wolverhampton for 43 years. Wolverhampton is a depressing place and if you go to the town most of the people are misrable, if you smile at them they don,t respond and the parking is the worst especially when the races and the footballs on. Your a prisoner in your own home. If you do venture out your sure to come across a hoodie or such.

]]> By: CobbleMatt http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289426 CobbleMatt Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:47:42 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289426 How recently have you walked the back streets of Paris? How recently have you walked the back streets of Paris?

]]> By: TelWolf http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289420 TelWolf Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:43:35 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289420 Lies, damned lies and statistics! Bottom of 827 cities. A quick Google revealed there are over 3000 cities with populations greater than 100,000 in the World. This indicates that Wolverhampton is better than more than two thirds of places of similar population and city status. What isn't made clear from the "survey" is how many people rated Wolverhampton. E&S say it is 2000, but a look on the Wanderlust site didn't show any of their stats, so I wonder where this figure came from? Also, it is just an average rating, normalised to a percentage, so we don't know how significant this is in comparison to others on the list. One other thing. Does anyone else think 837 is a nice round number for a category? Why not 500? or 1000? I think 837 was chosen because that is the position Wolverhampton finds itself in, and (assuming a "jumping on the bandwagon" conspiracy) the compilers of the list wanted Wolverhampton to be bottom. The city does have its problems, and I agree with the posts above on that, but let's not join the list of detractors. Put a petition on facebook, or somewhere online, listing the things we want fixed, and then send it to the council. Maybe they'll start to listen if they realise people who live here still have pride in their city! Lies, damned lies and statistics!
Bottom of 827 cities. A quick Google revealed there are over 3000 cities with populations greater than 100,000 in the World. This indicates that Wolverhampton is better than more than two thirds of places of similar population and city status.

What isn’t made clear from the “survey” is how many people rated Wolverhampton. E&S say it is 2000, but a look on the Wanderlust site didn’t show any of their stats, so I wonder where this figure came from? Also, it is just an average rating, normalised to a percentage, so we don’t know how significant this is in comparison to others on the list.

One other thing. Does anyone else think 837 is a nice round number for a category? Why not 500? or 1000? I think 837 was chosen because that is the position Wolverhampton finds itself in, and (assuming a “jumping on the bandwagon” conspiracy) the compilers of the list wanted Wolverhampton to be bottom.

The city does have its problems, and I agree with the posts above on that, but let’s not join the list of detractors. Put a petition on facebook, or somewhere online, listing the things we want fixed, and then send it to the council. Maybe they’ll start to listen if they realise people who live here still have pride in their city!

]]> By: PJW Holland http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289325 PJW Holland Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:25:54 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289325 Just having returned from a short break in the far reaches of Scandinavia where the problems we have are beginning to bite I find it somewhat comical to hear the bad mouthing of Wolverhampton. The City is going through a metamorphosis and so far no-one has bothered to clean up the mess left behind the money grabbing industry that so blackened its image. It is not impossible to do this, however. Why bleat about the view from railway lines? Every major city is ugly when viewed from the railway. Our railways were built primarily to service industry. Indeed the southern approach to High Level station is historically very interesting... and has the potential to be developed into a tourist attraction. Everywhere on the extremities of the EU is finding itself in dire economic straits. It is the inevitable consequence of the centralised EU. Wton has the double hindrance of the recent experiment with pseudo regional local government which meant everyone in the West Midlands threw money into a large pot which was supplemented from Brussels and Westminster and then spent entirely on Birmingham. That is when Wolverhampton became a wasteland and since then it has partially recovered. When you complain about this City ask what you have done to improve it. If you cannot identify anything then you have no right to complain. There is a lot wrong. It remains, however, a historic place (under-rated) and large parts are extremely attractive. Much of the City has views across beautiful countryside. Just having returned from a short break in the far reaches of Scandinavia where the problems we have are beginning to bite I find it somewhat comical to hear the bad mouthing of Wolverhampton.

The City is going through a metamorphosis and so far no-one has bothered to clean up the mess left behind the money grabbing industry that so blackened its image. It is not impossible to do this, however.

Why bleat about the view from railway lines? Every major city is ugly when viewed from the railway. Our railways were built primarily to service industry. Indeed the southern approach to High Level station is historically very interesting… and has the potential to be developed into a tourist attraction.

Everywhere on the extremities of the EU is finding itself in dire economic straits. It is the inevitable consequence of the centralised EU. Wton has the double hindrance of the recent experiment with pseudo regional local government which meant everyone in the West Midlands threw money into a large pot which was supplemented from Brussels and Westminster and then spent entirely on Birmingham. That is when Wolverhampton became a wasteland and since then it has partially recovered.

When you complain about this City ask what you have done to improve it. If you cannot identify anything then you have no right to complain.

There is a lot wrong. It remains, however, a historic place (under-rated) and large parts are extremely attractive. Much of the City has views across beautiful countryside.

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]]> By: gary http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289289 gary Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:46:04 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289289 i lived in bilston for 47 yrs, now ive moved to herefordshire where i feel much safer, no more gangs of yobs hanging around out side the house every night, that we sufferd year after year. police and councilers did nothing about it, yet i feel sad because bilston wolverhampton has been a big part of my life and like me, i bet many have seen it decline over the yrs, you wont see me back there in a hurry, ive had more than enough, and yes it does deserve its rating of being at the bottom i lived in bilston for 47 yrs, now ive moved to herefordshire where i feel much safer, no more gangs of yobs hanging around out side the house every night, that we sufferd year after year. police and councilers did nothing about it, yet i feel sad because bilston wolverhampton has been a big part of my life and like me, i bet many have seen it decline over the yrs, you wont see me back there in a hurry, ive had more than enough, and yes it does deserve its rating of being at the bottom

]]> By: Andy http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289282 Andy Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:08:16 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289282 Couldn't agree more with these comments. However, additions to this rather long list include: Raglan street development Royal Hospital development which doesn't seem to be doing much. Wolverhampton is a tired city which needs an injection of investment - sticking a half arsed fountain in a grotty square ruled by big issue sellers, tramps, goths and hoodies isn't going to cut the mustard. Wouldn't be a bad thing if a bomb was dropped on some parts of the city, at least then some development would have to be done! Couldn’t agree more with these comments.

However, additions to this rather long list include:

Raglan street development

Royal Hospital development which doesn’t seem to be doing much.

Wolverhampton is a tired city which needs an injection of investment – sticking a half arsed fountain in a grotty square ruled by big issue sellers, tramps, goths and hoodies isn’t going to cut the mustard.

Wouldn’t be a bad thing if a bomb was dropped on some parts of the city, at least then some development would have to be done!

]]> By: jane martin http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289280 jane martin Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:33:51 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289280 I only look at the E&S online to convince myself I did the right thing moving away. I drove back to visit family at Christmas, and as soon as I saw the outskirts of W-ton I knew I had done the right thing. I do miss the hills and the canals BUT I do not miss the beggars and down and outs. Jane Martin Norfolk I only look at the E&S online to convince myself I did the right thing moving away. I drove back to visit family at Christmas, and as soon as I saw the outskirts of W-ton I knew I had done the right thing. I do miss the hills and the canals BUT I do not miss the beggars and down and outs.

Jane Martin
Norfolk

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]]> By: gary hooper http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289277 gary hooper Sun, 07 Feb 2010 11:25:01 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289277 Wolverhampton is like Paris when you compare it to West Bromwich and surrounding areas. Wolverhampton is like Paris when you compare it to West Bromwich and surrounding areas.

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]]> By: PAUL MULLERY http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289274 PAUL MULLERY Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:59:28 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289274 The fact of the matter is that there are too many council estates in the region housing the low life who have no pride or personal standards. If they are capable of leaving cracked lavatory pans or cars on bricks in the front garden, are they really going to put their chewing gum or McDonald wrappers in a bin? Are they going to visit museums, art galleries or admire statues (except to spray paint) or fountains (except to urinate or discard rubbish in) The decent people of Wolverhampton are outnumbered by these wasters. They pay income tax and council tax and receive virtually no service in return. All the money goes on drug rehabilitation, policing, vandalism cleanup, young slappers with children by several fathers and useless initiatives to make the pond dwellers better citizens. I would advise anyone with decent standards looking for somewhere to live to ask the fundamental question "How many council estates exist in the rating area?" The fact of the matter is that there are too many council estates in the region housing the low life who have no pride or personal standards. If they are capable of leaving cracked lavatory pans or cars on bricks in the front garden, are they really going to put their chewing gum or McDonald wrappers in a bin? Are they going to visit museums, art galleries or admire statues (except to spray paint) or fountains (except to urinate or discard rubbish in)

The decent people of Wolverhampton are outnumbered by these wasters. They pay income tax and council tax and receive virtually no service in return. All the money goes on drug rehabilitation, policing, vandalism cleanup, young slappers with children by several fathers and useless initiatives to make the pond dwellers better citizens.

I would advise anyone with decent standards looking for somewhere to live to ask the fundamental question “How many council estates exist in the rating area?”

]]> By: dexes9669 http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289258 dexes9669 Sun, 07 Feb 2010 08:21:59 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289258 I emigrated to sunny California many years ago from Wolverhamption. The city is not a dump but as someone has pointed out, under invested. Of course, it depends on which side of the fence you are on. If you are a chauffered councillor, W'ton is the place to be. 1st problem with the city and England in general, get rid of asylum seekers. England is a very small speck of a country and definitely no world power of any sort, why it is part of the G-7 is a complete mystery. It influences nobody, and if the USA ever turns its back on it, it will get invaded by the middle east or eastern europe. England does not have the resources or even space to house these people, no offense to them. It's an island barely half the size of California. It only has size because Scotland is geologically attached to it to the north and Wales to the west, neither of which want to be or likes to be under English rule or have association with it. Secondly, get tough on crime. Crime is definitely an issue in W'ton and surrounding areas. Stop government handouts. Get people to get off their behinds and work. Increase the legal drinking age, keep kids in school until age 18. W'ton has potential, but definitely needs a re-shuffle in leadership. But it was my home for some years so I still have some pride in it. I emigrated to sunny California many years ago from Wolverhamption. The city is not a dump but as someone has pointed out, under invested. Of course, it depends on which side of the fence you are on. If you are a chauffered councillor, W’ton is the place to be. 1st problem with the city and England in general, get rid of asylum seekers. England is a very small speck of a country and definitely no world power of any sort, why it is part of the G-7 is a complete mystery. It influences nobody, and if the USA ever turns its back on it, it will get invaded by the middle east or eastern europe. England does not have the resources or even space to house these people, no offense to them. It’s an island barely half the size of California. It only has size because Scotland is geologically attached to it to the north and Wales to the west, neither of which want to be or likes to be under English rule or have association with it. Secondly, get tough on crime. Crime is definitely an issue in W’ton and surrounding areas. Stop government handouts. Get people to get off their behinds and work. Increase the legal drinking age, keep kids in school until age 18.

W’ton has potential, but definitely needs a re-shuffle in leadership. But it was my home for some years so I still have some pride in it.

]]> By: Fox in a Box http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289225 Fox in a Box Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:02:16 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289225 How many more times are you going to come on here telling us how clever you were to leave Wolverhampton? Not that I necessarily disagree with your comments, but please, read your own LOCAL news. If you have no interest in the city, why spend so much time on here moaning about it. Me thinks thou doth protest too much! How many more times are you going to come on here telling us how clever you were to leave Wolverhampton?
Not that I necessarily disagree with your comments, but please, read your own LOCAL news.
If you have no interest in the city, why spend so much time on here moaning about it.
Me thinks thou doth protest too much!

]]> By: Chris http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289219 Chris Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:12:22 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289219 I have lived in Wolverhampton for 27 years, my life to date! And what ever i can do to get out of the place i do! Be it working abroad or on cruise ships! The only reason i come back is to visit family! The signs as you come into Wolverhampton should say, "Welcome to the Ghetto of Wolverhampton!" Horrible place! I have lived in Wolverhampton for 27 years, my life to date! And what ever i can do to get out of the place i do! Be it working abroad or on cruise ships!

The only reason i come back is to visit family!

The signs as you come into Wolverhampton should say,

“Welcome to the Ghetto of Wolverhampton!”

Horrible place!

]]> By: Aucklandkiwiwolf http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289215 Aucklandkiwiwolf Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:51:20 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289215 Wolverhampton is a good place to come FROM! Wolverhampton is a good place to come FROM!

]]> By: FANNY http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289196 FANNY Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:12:47 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289196 It is not in the worst 20 on the channel four website. But then again that is just for the UK. Personally myself I love how green Wolverhampton is, you don't have to go far to find a little green oasis. I especially like the area around Smestow Brook and Smestow Valley Nature Reserve, a walk along the canal anywhere in Wolverhampton can be a pleasure. It is not in the worst 20 on the channel four website. But then again that is just for the UK.

Personally myself I love how green Wolverhampton is, you don’t have to go far to find a little green oasis. I especially like the area around Smestow Brook and Smestow Valley Nature Reserve, a walk along the canal anywhere in Wolverhampton can be a pleasure.

]]> By: Val http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289191 Val Sat, 06 Feb 2010 19:00:17 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289191 The best holiday I ever had was in Edinburgh, yet I was more likely to be robbed, accosted by druggies and worse than I have ever experienced here. You need to get out more. The best holiday I ever had was in Edinburgh, yet I was more likely to be robbed, accosted by druggies and worse than I have ever experienced here.

You need to get out more.

]]> By: TORQUAY MAN http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289186 TORQUAY MAN Sat, 06 Feb 2010 18:28:22 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289186 Yet again only the councillors with a vested self interest in spin and a few deluded people stick up for the hell hole which is Wolverhampton. Leaving Wolverhampton was the best decision as a family we have ever made, the place is just spiralling into a den of hell. It is also inaccurate for those deluded people to come out with comments like "Its the same all over the country" , no it is not, as someone who travels frequently all over the country Wolverhampton really is the pits and the complete delusion to accept its rubbish by residents is simply frightening, still good luck to you all!!! Yet again only the councillors with a vested self interest in spin and a few deluded people stick up for the hell hole which is Wolverhampton.
Leaving Wolverhampton was the best decision as a family we have ever made, the place is just spiralling into a den of hell.
It is also inaccurate for those deluded people to come out with comments like “Its the same all over the country” , no it is not, as someone who travels frequently all over the country Wolverhampton really is the pits and the complete delusion to accept its rubbish by residents is simply frightening, still good luck to you all!!!

]]> By: Mr refeuse collector http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2010/02/06/city-ranks-bottom-in-poll-of-827-worldwide/#comment-289178 Mr refeuse collector Sat, 06 Feb 2010 17:33:19 +0000 http://www.expressandstar.com/?p=108867#comment-289178 Wolverhampton and this country is a slum with Wolverhampton being top of the dung heap. Years of neglect and not listening to the common people have done this. Just look at Broad street and tell me who has listened. This country is ruined with no manufacturing left there will never be a recovery. If i ever get the chance i will emigrate with my family. We have all been let down by Labor. Wolverhampton and this country is a slum with Wolverhampton being top of the dung heap. Years of neglect and not listening to the common people have done this. Just look at Broad street and tell me who has listened. This country is ruined with no manufacturing left there will never be a recovery. If i ever get the chance i will emigrate with my family. We have all been let down by Labor.

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