Move to list baths is being assessed

Wednesday 3rd February 2010, 11:30AM GMT.

Move to list baths is being assessed

Heritage bosses are considering whether to grant condemned Coseley baths listed status, a move which could block council plans to demolish the building.

English Heritage confirmed today an application had been lodged requesting that the baths be designated as a site of special architectural, historical or cultural interest. A final decision will be taken by the Government’s Department for Culture, Media and Sport (DCMS).

If the pool in Pear Tree Lane were granted listed status it could pose an obstacle to Dudley Council’s plans to reduce the building to rubble.

Special planning permission would then have to be sought to knock down the baths, but any such attempt would almost certainly meet with stern opposition from the DCMS. Chairman of Coseley Civic Trust John Wilkes, who has been involved with the Save Coseley Baths campaign led by Brian Guest, has submitted the application to list the building.

He said it should be retained for its “distinctive” appearance while its 33-metre pool was also worthy of saving. “It would be difficult to find anything quite like Coseley baths anywhere else.

“It is also a larger pool which I think will count in its favour,” he said.

English Heritage will make a recommendation on Mr Wilkes’ application, which is backed by the Save Coseley Baths group, to the DCMS. Officials refused to say when the decision would be made. Getting the building listed is one of three irons in the fire as campaigners race against time to try and stop bulldozers moving in.

Mr Guest is taking legal advice about mounting a legal bid to prevent the council demolishing the building.

Meanwhile an investigation will be carried out at the baths following claims demolition work had started before permission was granted by Natural England.

Dudley Council had to apply for a licence to knock down the building after a colony of 20 bats was found roosting in the roof.

The licence was granted by Natural England but following concerns raised by the Save Coseley Baths group, officials from the conservation organisation will now visit the baths. The baths closed in August.


  1. 1
    Desperado

    ‘Listed’ Status? This guy is havin’ a larf!

    Look at it! It’s just a bog-standard piece of 1960s brutalism. If John Wilkes thinks this shed is worthy of preserving so that it can be marvelled over by the oiks of Coseley in a hundred years time then let him shell out his own money to spare it from the bulldozer.

    Whatever next? Someone telling us that Walsall Bus Station is an architectural masterpiece?

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  2. 2
    Founding West Mids

    I totally disagree with the above comment regardless of how architecturally inapt and inadequate this swimming baths is , it is still a worth while petition. There are plenty of people that use these baths there are plenty of children that learn to swim here. It is not a question of the building it is a question of the value it adds to Cosley.

    What knock it down and build other piece of crappy modern building over the top? At least if they don’t knock it down it will be structurally sound and the money that was going to be used for other crap could be used to clean it up a bit and a new lick of paint.

    This is about community not commodity!!

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    • Ray

      But surely that is the whole point of acquiring listed status: to preserve the building not the baths itself. So all Mr Guest will be left with is just that: a building shell with no water in the pool!

      Furthermore, contrary to what you say, Coseley Baths is not “structurally sound” and will require millions of pounds spent on it (leaving aside any work to modernise it and comply with disability guidelines) just to make it so. That is the reason of why the Council closed it down to start with.

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      • Sally

        You cannot assume that the council’s estimates for refurbishment are correct because they have a vested interest (apparently) in demolishing the Baths. Therefore the estimates are probably “goldplated” and wouldn’t stand up to close scrutiny.

        Sedgemoor District Council closed the Sedgemoor Splash (the only public pool in Bridgwater) at about the same time as the Coseley Pool. The Council originally claimed that the Sedgemoor Pool needed £2 million spending on it, but as public opposition increased that estimate went up to £4 million!!

        I would like to see Dudley Council justify their claims, by allowing a truly independent survey of the pool.

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        • Ray

          Apparently, the Coseley Baths campaigners did commission their own independent survey in the condition of the baths. However, perhaps because they are embarrassed that it has actually corroborated what the Council’s own engineers reported, this survey has yet to see the light of day!

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  3. 3
    Mark

    If they recon the building is worth keeping and a symbol of coseley at least use it as a baths which is what most people want. Its hardly a good looking building is it?

    I notice a new youth centre is being built around the corner probably costing millions, why couldnt they have used one of the rooms in the baths or something like that instead of mis using peoples money.

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