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Jez: What’s all the fuss about?
Thursday 17th December 2009, 11:30AM GMT.
Wolves chief executive Jez Moxey today admitted “everyone was surprised” at Mick McCarthy’s team selection at Manchester United – but says he can’t see what all the fuss is about.
McCarthy caused a media firestorm as well as prompting a Premier League Board enquiry when he made 10 changes for Tuesday’s 3-0 defeat at Old Trafford.
Moxey has already said there is no chance of Wolves’ 2,530 fans at the game being refunded their £42 for tickets. And, while the Molineux supremo was surprised at the team, he was fully supportive.
“I think everybody was surprised at the team selection, Mick acknowledges that himself,” said Moxey.
“But the manager has the sole responsibility for picking a team he feels best suits the objective of the club, which is to remain in the Premier League.
“The starting team had six international players. All but one had played in the Premier League and Mick felt it was his best team. He didn’t set out to lose. It’s not as if he played youth players.
“I can’t see what all the fuss is about. Albion made a lot of changes under Bryan Robson for a game at Chelsea on August 24, 2005, Villa rested an entire team for their UEFA Cup tie at CSKA Moscow in February, Liverpool made nine changes at Fulham on May 5, 2007 before their Champions League final and Manchester United did the same at Hull on May 24 this year before their Champions League final.
“No one seems to make a furore when the ‘big four’ do it. For clubs of our size to stay in the Premier League, our players have to play at 110 per cent and players at top clubs don’t always have to do that.”
Moxey said the letter from the Premier League Board asking for an explanation had been received. But the club believe they can avoid punishment. “What people conveniently forget is that by querying the decision, people are questioning the right of a manager as to what his best team is.”
Moxey said McCarthy empathised with the fans, adding: “He understands but what the fans want most of all, I think, is for us to remain in the Premier League.”
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What a crass, arrogant, ignorant CEO we have in charge of our club He should hang his head in shame as he obviously has no feelings toward the loyal fans.Go now Moxey
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To state that he cannot understand what the fuss is all about shows his complete lack of understanding of football is all about,Villa,Liverpool and United RESTED
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What the fans wanted moxey, was to be told in advanced, so they didn’t have to spend lots of time and money at christmas in a recession going to support a team that they knew would have no chance of winning!!
Thats what all the fuss is about, although I know none of that would matter to you anyway!
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Well said Moxey. I completely agree with McCarthy’s team selection on Tuesday. Whats the point in playing our full strength team at Old Trafford and risk an injury to a key player like Doyle or milijas when chances are, a point is the most we could’ve got at Old Trafford. Burnley is the important match as far as we are concerned. Not a fairytale match at OT.
I do, however, think that Mick should’ve warned travelling fans beforehand
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For Moxey To state that he cannot understand what the fuss is all about shows his complete lack of understanding of what football is all about,Villa,Liverpool and United RESTED PLAYERS before important European matches points were not really an issue.Wolves were facing a United team with a weakened defence and therefore probably the best time to play them.With four days to rest before facing Burnley a good performance and possibly a point-(dare i say it 3) confidence would have been sky high.Micks excuses about high level performances just do not stack up this is what highly paid fit young and hungry footballers do across the globe week in week out.It is time this once great football club treated supporters with the respect they deserve and not as some child who do not understand football.
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The fat controller has spoken now everyone accecpt it.
Of course he’s suprised at the backlash caused by people being angry at using their hard earned money to go and watch a team earning thousands who can’t play two games in a week.
But then again it wasn’t too much money for the fans to pay out, what is the fat controllers salary again?
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as much as it was a shock to see MM change 10 players against man utd i dont think he did anything wrong – he is the manager of a SQUAD and if he wants to rotate to suit players still feeling the effects from a cracking game against tottenham then so be it… either way, the manager cant win, if he fielded a half cut squad and still lost tuesday then took the same team into sunday and lost because of tiredness then he would still have the fans on his back. He did what he thought best to ensure a fully fit team for Sunday for a team we do need to beat – the statement at the beginning of the season wasnt to enjoy the high profile games of the top 4 but to ensure we stay in the top flight and i’m still pretty sure MM will still have some stupid fans calling for his head if we did stay in the top flight!!
i dont disagree that we should be putting 100% into every game regardless but look at the team against man utd – all except 1 have played a game this season so its hardly a reserve side and to be honest, before the first goal we played pretty well, we didnt sit back, we played some good footy out there so its slap in the face for the players out there being called “reserves”
and as for arsene wenger complaining – he complains about everyone when he doesnt win instead of looking at his own team – its ok for him to field his “kids” when he plays a low profile game before a man utd/chelsea/liverpool match, so before he goes off about not respecting the top 4 and playing a full squad, he should respect the lower teams and play his full squad at all times!
rant over :D
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His contempt knows no bounds. Does Jez not see the proud vision of Billy Wright CBE as he parks his car outside the stand that bears his name? Or the Honved and Spartak programmes that adorn the club museum? Sir Bill (and so many others) helped create a bastion of English football. He would be spinning in his grave if he saw Wolverhampton Wanderers roll over and surrender before a ball was kicked. Billy’s team wouldn’t give a flying fig about what other clubs get up to, because all they ever cared about was making Wolves a club to be feared and respected across the world.
If Jez doesn’t know what the fuss is about, then maybe he should give Bert Williams a call.
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As long as Wolves beat Burnley, Mick’s done OK, otherwise I’m going to be LIVID!
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It might not bother Mick and Jez that the whole football fraternity hates us because of the cowardice displayed on Tuesday night but the real fans of Wolverhampton Wanderers take pride in out traditions and the standing we have in our national game. Since the famous floodlit friendlies against Honved and Spartak in the 50′s we have been respected and reveered across europe with fan clubs across the continent. That has been damaged perhaps beyond repair. Glory glory Wolverhampton? I think not. Shame on you MCarthy and shame on you Moxey for not understanding our disgust.
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Top marks to Mick, i think he made the right decision
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Fair play, absolute storm in a teacup – the paying fans have every right to feel aggrieved but anyone else questioning the manager’s decision should disappear off and concentrate on themselves. All they are doing is creating a siege mentality within the Wolves camp by rounding on us – I think we all need to pull in the same direction and get behind the boys and the manager as vocally as possible this Sunday. Burnley are a very good side and will put up a good fight so we need to get on top of them from the very first minute, just like we did against Bolton. If we win this match then Mick’s decision to rest the team he played against Spurs is justified… however, if we lose then the club should think seriously about offering refunds to the supporters who made their way up the M6 on Tuesday. Lord knows, the PR of the club is bad enough at the minute without this hanging over their heads…
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Oh get a grip, so you want the first team to run around get knackered and lose to united then be tired for a more realistic chance of getting 3 points at the weekend. Mick is not promising 3 points at the weekend but is giving us the best possible chance. I wish for once that us Wolves fans would be 100% behind the boss and his choices.
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It’s Muppet Moxey as well as Muppet Mick now. Clueless comments that are thoughtless for me and the other loyal 2,529 fans who went to the game.
Mr Moxey will receive another letter soon also asking about the team selection – from Bob Wolf wanting for his £42 back.
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Not enjoyimg reading about our club in the national press at the moment. We knew and understood that players would be rested. Surely there were cleverer ways of achieving that without creating this furore.
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If we dont stick behind mick and the whole team wont be long before we are on our way back down football league
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well to all the moaners the message is clear, dont waste your time and money , and you either want a premiership club or you dont. make up your minds. utw wwfc 3 burnley 0
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McCarthy has the right to choose his team but what about the fans’ rights to see a genuine game? We had two shots all night! I think it would bea nice gesture to offer some form of compensation to those who travelled.
This could be a really significant game for the whole Prem League if more teams start doing it it will bring the whole set up into question.
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Methinks from the previous instances he refers to that they have been carrying out some panicked research!
While no one doubts the right of the manager to pick the team, the sheer number of changes was crying out for attention by the football world and it was completely niave not to expect the ‘outcry’ that has followed.
We have gone from a club with a ‘good vibe’ following two wins to having the spotlight firmly fixed on us on Sunday. That ‘must win’ game is now a ‘really must win’ game or Mick (I am afraid) risks being the media whipping boy for the next few months as Phil Brown was last year.
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Fair play Jez – and you’re right.
I was worried that all this fuss would affect the squad for Sunday in a bad way – but I think most people in the football world and most football fan support Mick’s decision.
Now, lets use this ridiculous hype to galvanise the squad, get behind Super Mick and the team and beat Burnley on Sunday!
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8 & 10 I couldn’t agree more. The image and name of our club has been damaged severely by this farce. How can we have pride in the name of Wolverhampton Wanderers when we’re happy to concede defeat before a ball is kicked? Have we really fallen that far? Didn’t Morgan say we weren’t just going up to make up the numbers? Looks like it doesn’t it!
Moxey is totally out of touch with real supporters feelings and obviously has no sense of the history or pride of this once great club. I think he and MM should hang there heads in shame. Seeing the reputation of Wolves dragged through the mud like this disgusts me.
As for the people on here defending the decision and think that’s an acceptable way for Wolverhampton Wanderers to conduct itself, I respect your opinions but honestly I actually feel sorry for you.
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Wengers such a moaner, is it Wolves fault his players cant win up north in the cold months? Whats he complaining about anyway his lot have already spanked us, and that wasn’t our best team that day in my opinion. I am far from happy with MM so far and certainly not convinced he is capapble of keeping us up let alone establishing us in the Prem, but, he is the manager and it is his job to pick what he thinks is the best side so I really cant see any official come back on this unless the league think they should pick everyones teams every week. We must win on Sun and if we don’t I honestly think a change might be best, we’ve gone from being a lot of peoples second team to everyone wishing us relegated.
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I understand the reasons behind Micks thinking. I watched the match online so i was mainly surprised but not angry with the team selection. However if i had gone to the match like i did in 2003, i would have been thoroughly peed off if id paid £42 plus all the other expenses. I agree with 4, Mick should have warned the travelling fans about this. He has bent the rules, i don’t think the premier league can do much but hes damaged his relationship with trhe Wolves fans which will take sometime to heal. Burnley will be motivated by all this thats for sure.
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Moxey does not care a jot about the fans, he showed that when he gave West Scumich the South Bank in the FA Cup a few years back, and then tried to phob fans off with a pint and a pie. As for Mick, well only time will tell, and I hope we get 3 points on Sunday or it could be muppet Mick, on the other hand if we do take 3 points and end up staying up, it will be Mick the mastermind, thats how fickle football is !!
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And as for the argument that our first team are too tired, I accept it was a maximum effort at Spurs, but can we not reduce training load this week and do we not have an army of physios, nutritionists, masseurs etc. If we cannot get the majority of the first team to recover fully given the period of time available then either they have below par fitness levels for the PL or we have an incompetent back room set up. They are professional sportsmen not a pub team for god sake. Playing twice a week is kind of the point.
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STORM IN A TEACUP ,LETS GET ON WITH PLAYING FOOTBALL. WE ARE WOLVES
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West Brom under Robson did rest alot of players against Chelsea,a fter they had got some momentum together, only to lose against Blues on the Sunday. It’s just the the stupidness of the manager that anagers me. The team has done better against stronger teams and this Man Utd team are ordinary and have injury problems. He has now put so much onus on Sunday and blatantly wanted to make a statement by going and changing all 10 players and now the pressure is on.
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When, the top four ‘rest players’ its in entirely different circumstances. They’ve already won the league or don’t need to finish any higher. And in any case, it’s never TEN changes!
I’m a passionate wolves fan and went on Tues night. However, I don’t agree with what Mick did and 99% of the fans who went agree.
I also agree with Arsene Wenger, changing ten outfield players, is completely against the competition of the premier league as we handed Man Utd three points. Arsenal, Chelsea etc will compete with Man Utd over 37 games now not 38.
I think the Premier League should take action as it’s a dangerous precedent to set and I hope this isn’t the future of this league, where the lesser team roll over and rest players against the big four, it will only create a bigger gulf and ruin the integrity of the competition.
Mick can dress it up any way he wants but that was a second team/reserve team, he had four full backs on the pitch and only one of them played in their natural position. It was a joke.
I don’t support the manager in any way over what he did on Tues. These players dream of playing on stages like Old Trafford, I bet the first team are secretly slagging him off behind his back. they are also professional footballers and could have played on Tues, not all have the team have played every single minute so far this season, only a few warranted a rest.
Unfortunately I’ve already bought my ticket for L’pool but if we are to field another reserve team, I would rather save my money at what is already an expensive time of the year.If we don’t beat Burnley, Mick should be sacked along with Moxey!
Anything to say Steve?
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I went to Spurs on Saturday, didn’t go to Old Trafford. To be honest, had I gone, I would have been gutted – these days out don’t exactly come cheap. I think what Mick did was wrong for football. It’s not really in the spirit of the game – Mr Wenger is quite right in what he says. But there is no doubt in my mind that he did what he thought was best for the club. I don’t think we should be slating him for that – we all want to stay up don’t we??
I do think that the least the club could do would be to compensate these fans in some way – free travel to another game, a voucher for the shop, something anyway. Mr Moxey really has shown his ignorance a bit here.
BUT what this has now become is another chance for all the moaners and doom-mongers to have their usual swipes at Moxey and McCarthy. I’m getting pretty fed up of this now. There are clearly some people who want them out for one reason or another. But the fact is that Mick took on our club in a real mess and got us promoted as champions in the second season. We’ve had a couple of dodgy performances in the Premiership – as has every other team this year. Every time the team under performs, the doom mongers are there – ‘Mad Mick Out’ etc. It does my head in. They were even suggesting that when we were leading the Championship with a just a few games to go!!!!!!
What we really need for the club to be successful now (starting with a win on Sunday) is for everyone to forget about this and get behind the team. The last thing the team needs on Sunday is a negative atmosphere in the ground. The constant ‘Mick out’ WILL NOT HELP US STAY IN THE PREMIERSHIP.
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Mad Mick Dennis has been on Sky Sports again this morning,saying every man and a dog will be supporting Burnley on sunday.Give it a rest Mick,with all youre anti-wolves dribble.
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Enough is enough now. Pompey rested 7 players at Chelsea last night and nothing is being said about that! We lost Keogh last week, Kites a couple of weeks before and Edwards last weekend to injuries and not minor ones at that.
Which players did everyone want to see on show Tuesday??? Doyle, Milijas, Ward , Craddock and Henry. If so, let’s look closely at these.
Doyle – our star player needs to be right for the next 3 games, as without him we would really struggle up front.
Milijas – never plays a 90 minutes.
Ward – must be careful as he has just come back from a long term injury and is crucial to us at present.
Craddock – our oldest outfield player and is needed at the back for his experience.
Henry – runs more for the team than any other.
I just hope we do not fail against Burnley as there will be an unhealthy atmosphere around Molineux.
Interestingly Ferguson, Taylor, Moyles, Coyle and Bully have defended MM’s decision.
My personal opinion is that we should have done similar to Pompey and rested half a dozen or so but definitely were right not to have the same team that played at Spurs plus Doyle!
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its kind of strange how people are presuming to know what billy wright,stan cullis and all the former greats of the 50′s and 60′s would be thinking about tuesday night, mcarthy and moxey are currently doing a magnificent job of establishing the club in the premiership. utw . wwfc 3 burnley 0
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It wasn’t really a reserve team. If Mick had played Doyle/Berra/Craddock instead of Mairhofer/Hill/Friend then nobody would have even noticed!
I think it was a great decision, and I have no sympathy for those that travelled to the match as I believe the outcome would have been the same even with the mightly (but tired) Craddock/Berra at the back.
And for all those that are angry that Mick didn’t tell the fans beforehand? That would have almost guaranteed Wolves a disciplinary hearing. Get a brain people.
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it would be nice to have a manager that wanted to win every game and play his best team to do that and not capitulate and throw the towel in before the game. it would also be nice to have a ceo who knows something about football and something about wolverhampton wanderers fc and more importantly its fans who invest thousands of pounds every year in the club unlike idiot moxey who just takes it.
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I thought we supported Wolves the Club, not I think those 11 will do me nicely.
I think anyone with a little forsight would have realised we would go defensive at least to Man U, and that would have meant most being rested anyway.
Accept they bust a gut at Tottenham and hopefully give it all on Sunday.
If we had gone with a slighhtly better selection and thats not degrading the players that played and we had come out of these two games with 1 point what would have you all said.
Back the SQUAD and lets see if we can achieve survival with a young outfit that will improve.
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I’m not a happy clapper and I give my honest viewpoints – positive and negative – whenever I wish.
In this instance, I can see the right of those who paid to go to Old Trafford to have a moan.
I can understand why some of the supposed “first team” might have wanted to have played the Man Utd game – let’s face it, playing at Old Trafford when you’re at the level of many of our squad is the stuff of romance and dreams.
I can understand why Arsene Wenger might have a moan – but he quite often finds something to grumble about, too.
…and I can also understand the thinking of Mick McCarthy and, if we win against Burnley, he’ll be totally vindicated.
As for the club should have told travelling fans, I seem to recall reading on here that Mick said well beforehand that, post-Spurs, he would have to ring the changes for the Man Uts game. If it wasn’t here, it was certainly on a Sky interview. Wherever it was, I assure you he did give a clue as to his thinking…
Anyway, if we win against Burnley, the storm in a teacup will soon pass over.
Wouldn’t like to be anyone connected with the club if we fail to beat Burnley though… eek!
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Well like a lot of fans I was dumbstruck when I saw the team and all sorts of emotions flowed. But having had a few days to think I believe I can see where MM was coming from I just pray we get 3 points on Sunday.
However, he should have considered the travelling fans and the cost in time and money to them and let it be known earlir so they could decide what they wished to do. Comments abound about his lack of feeling for the fans and this will not help one jot especially especially with muppet Moxey waving a derisory hand and stating regally ‘you have no chnace of your money back’
Mr Moxey there is more than one of getting it back and you may come to regret your arrogant stance as fans may show it with their feet and turn their back on you and the club.
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None of the management have any passion for WW, unlike the fans. We are the ones who purchase our season tickets and expect to see our team performing to the best of their ability.
After Saurdays performancwe they must have been on a high and realy been looking forward to another scalp. So what does MM do completely deflates the team by leaving them out, if thats his idea of man management its no wonder he shows complete arrogance towards the fans. We will all be there on Sunday and we the fans hope that it does not backfire on us.
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The tickets were sold to the fans on the basis that they would see the first team fighting for a win at MU.
By fielding the reserves who had no chance of a win the club broke its contract with the fans.
There is possibly a legal slant on this that deserves investigating.
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13 Ski Spot On.
If any of you fans bothered to read on the web MM said that there would be changes made for Man U did not say how many but nevertheless he did.
Do you fans not think that the lads read these comments and how you must be making them feel. Get a grip and before anyone jumps on me I am a season ticket holder and I do pay to go to away matches too.
And to Mr Wenger you have never done this have you?
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Jez has no easy route out on this one.
If he refunds then the PL will have the evidence to punish us.
If he doesnt then all the MM/JM haters on boards like this will continue to talk the club down.
The team was not a weakened team. it was a DIFFERENT team. We don’t have the squad that the big 4 can afford so for Wenger to get on his high cheval is, well, taking the Mick.
It looks to me (from a distance) that we played better on tuesday than we did against the Blues and chelsea. It was alot like the Arsenal game where we were ok for 30 minutes but then were totally spooked. At least on tuesday we weren’t overawed after the first goal unlike versus Arsenal.
Also there seems to be a view from some on these boards that you can only have a justified comment if you go to most if not all the matches. WRONG – I have to choose how I spend my time and money but do get to games like I’ve been doing for 30 plus years.
Get over it everyone, lets use this media campaign to our advantage and create more team strength and unity starting with a win over Burnley – I’ll be there with my son who could easily have supported one of the big 4 given he has never lived within 120 miles of the Mol.
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I am completely behin MM on this. I think it was a brave choice and a good choice. All this talk of Billy Wright turning in his grave – like you know how he’s react. Get over it.
However, Moxey really doesn’t do himself any favours with his language. People have a right to their opinion, and to say “whats all the fuss about” is a huge PR mistake.
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So Mr Moxey do’es not see what all the fuss is about, of course he can not understand because he did not pay a penny to see the game, and claimed his travel and food on expenses. If he went to the grand to see a show and the star did not appear which ruined the show, how would he feel. It is a disgrace when our great club runs up the white flag and says we would have lost anyway. Do’es Mr Moxey if not the manager not recall the last time we were in this league, we did beat a certain Man. Utd. Your total contempt for the fans Mr Moxey is now clear and the time has come for Mr Morgan to come out of hiding and appoint a person who do’es think the fans have the right to be considered
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Are there was me thinking you were well educated Mr Moxey! Even an idiot can see te obvious issues that this debacle has caused! “We never set out to lose”…..what else could you expect given the team that was put out at O.T. 6 internationals and G.Friend. Friend couldn’t even make the starting line up in his 3 or so loan spells and many if the internationals have been signings that thus far have failed to prove they are ready for the prem! The team that was selected would have never justified a selection in the Championship let alone at Man United!
Don’t get me started on the “we are not gonna refund fans”! How about next time you decide to plough out the second sting, let those fans that brought tickets in advance and then they can make an informed decision on their desire to travel and spend all their hard earned cash!
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Moxey thumbs his nose at supporters shock. If he can’t understand why this caused the reaction it did then football isn’t the right area for him to work in.
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Yet again total ignorance and disrespect from that well known comedy duo. Would love to know what Mr Anonymous Morgan (who?)thinks about this latest farce. Burnley have the right approach but lets hope on Sunday their players are as tired as ours were.
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Typicaly Mr Moxey again is treating the fans with contempt, along with everything that has occured this season it`s what is to be expected, no thought or offer of apologie for the calamity that occured on Tuesday evening i was embarrassed to be there, that really hurts me to admit that, we are a laughing stock !
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Ok I wasn’t at old Trafford, however the “reserves” lost 3-0, didn’t the first team lose games against Chelsea & Arsenal 4-0!!!
I hope when we hopefully win on Sunday, Mick will hopefully be justified!!
I’ll settle for a 1-0 result!!!
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Mick / Jez get my full support. I’m sorry but the game has changed – the creation of the PL put paid to that. We have to be savvy and use every advantage we can get out of the system to give us a chance of winning games in this division. The major clubs have made it an uneven playing field – realistically how can we be expected to compete against clubs with salary and transfer budgets ten time more than Wolves? The spirit of the game went a long time ago – Man Utd operate with a £900 million debt! The team performed well at OT and was a darn sight better than the performances at Chelsea and at home to Birmingham. Wolves fans who don’t have the nous or basic understanding of what Mick did are deluded. It may well be a sorry state of affairs, but that is the inequal system we have contrived – and every time we pay our direct debit to SKY TV we are perpetuating it!
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MM should be judged at the end of the season. The FC should not come out and be so pig ignorant. Lets hope we beat Burnley if not then MM could be in a spot of bother. UTW.
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TO RESPOND TO THE CONTEMPT SHOWN BY THE CLUB TO THE TRAVELLING SUPPORTERS ON TUESDAY…I HOPE WE GET STUFFED ROYALLY BY BURNLEY ON SUNDAY.
IT’S WHAT THE CLUB DESERVES…THEY CERTAINLY DON’T DESERVE THE LOYALTY OF LEGIONS OF PROUD FANS WHO SPEND THOUSOUNDS OF POUNDS FOLLOWING THE HOME AND AWAY EVERY SEASON.
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33. Greeno, I was waiting for someone to point that out. If McCarthy had said anything about the team selection there is no way it could be phrased (or interpreted) as anything but a ‘weakened side’ and that would be straight off to disciplinary hearing and probably points docked.
Did anyone reasonably expect that the result at Spurs would be repeated at OT? Coudln’t they see the state of the players at the end of the Spurs game?
I despair.
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Some of you people are unbelievable.
Accountant Wolf – Where on the ticket does it say “you will see the first team” and what does “first team” mean anyway ?
4 Internationlas
3 U21′s
all have played for us this season in the prem
with the exception of Friend.
Stop clutching at straws man !!
John De Wolf – how did you come to that 99% stat ?! Crikey, were you outside with a clipboard and pen quizing wolves fans ?? Why undermine your point with nonsense statistic?
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I have said it before and i will say it again – WWFC need an educated press spokesperson. That person could have made known to the press on Saturday evening that MM would be looking to rotate the “squad” for the coming Man Utd fixture due to a few niggling injuries and tiredness.
As for Wenger – He is French – He is Arsenal – He is a whinger – It’s a wonder he “saw” the team selection he usually says “I did not see it” when it suits him. I think MM should have probably started with 4 or 5 of the previous line up and made strategic subs as and when.
All you poppers – what do you expect Moxey to say? He will not slag off the man HE appointed in public!!! Either way MM could not win – If he played a “full team” at Old Trafford and we lose and get injuries/tired players then lose to Burnley – you will all say ” He should have played a weaker team against Utd”.
Doing what he did, now gives us the edge over Burnley – lets hope MM was right. One thing I do disagree with though – players that are young and hungry are “knackered”??? Ask Aston Villa who played and BEAT Man Utd on Saturday EVENING and played a similar 11 against Sunderland on Tuesday and won!!!
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WOW, a lot of the same morons reappearing on these boards.
and a lot of morons jumping on the bandwagon, the player picked have played in the first team this season, most were coming back from injury so needed a game, most were either full or u21 internationals.
Stop putting down your own club you damn fools.
Furthermore, the pratt who was on sky sports news complaining that he had taken a day off work and travelled up and spent over £100…well, he and many others using this argument are the fools stupid enough to take a day off for a football match.
So called “fans” on here disgust me, real fans back the club and understand, morons jump on the storm whipped up by the usual cretins in the media.
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TALK ABOUT AN OVER REACTION
ITS GONE MOVE ON
PRIORITY IS 3 POINTS ON SUNDAY NOT WHAT HAPPENED TUESDAY NIGHT
YET AGAIN THE IDIOTS ARE ALL IN FAVOUR OF MM OUT
GET A GRIP YOU CLOWNS
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Alex Rae’s Butler – premier league rules state teams have to play their best team when available. Thats why we may be in trouble…… but you know better. Plank.
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50. so you want wolves to lose on sunday?. and you call yourself loyal? utw. wwfc 3 burnley 0
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39 – Accountant Wolf
Absolute Tosh !!
I believe the Ticket says ‘Manchester United v Wolverhampton Wanderers’
I also believe that all players that played that night in a gold shirt are registered Wolves players.
Stick to bean counting, because a lawyer you most definitely are not!!
PS – I went, was disappointed with the team selection, was proud of the effort by those who played and can see the ‘wider picture’
Sunday and the position at the end of the season will tell us whether it was the right thing to do.
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Stan Cullis would be turning in his grave following the events of this week, completley and utterly disgraceful and we are now the most despised team in the league, well done mad mick for just sealing relegation for us
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The paper don’t usually print my comments on wolves stories, but i hope they will print this as it addresses Moxey’s comments on the Albion.
Yes Robson did change the team against chelsea – and the fans gave him stick for it… but there are huge differences.
Firstly we had not just enjoyed a confidence building away win against a team in the top 4.
Secondly His change was more to do with formation as he played one (Kevin “Nipper” Campbell) up front. He did not play a team of second string choices.
Lastly, he had announced in advance his intention to field a more defensive minded team prior to match day – at least giving fans the choice to go or not.
I disagreed with Robson’s team selection that day and i think it set a negative vibe for the rest of the season – but I think to make 10 changes to a winning team was bordering on the bizzare.
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Supporters were starting to get worried about Mick before the wins against Spurs & Bolton. He regained a bit of faith with those wins, so what does he do next, send our team out like lambs to the slaughter.
I could accpet 3 or 4 changes to rest the tiredest of players. But what he did was give 3 points away. For me every match is there to be won. This defeatest attitude against the bigger teams is detremental to team spirit.
If we lose against Burnley, Mick will have all the fans on his back. You may as well forget the last 2 wins, as Mick alone has brought anger from the fans. We are Wolves no sacrificial lambs. The mentalitlity is pathetic, the acts of a loser not a winner.
Please never do this again Mick as it really hurts the pride of Wolves fans. We are better than this.
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I can only assume most of you writing comments are not supporters who attend any of the games home or away.The team was clearly a reserve team and not the one I paid to see.This is clearly against,atleast,the spirit of premiership rules and totally disrespectful towards loyal supporters.What a surprise it is that fat cat Jez supports his muppit manager.Irrespective of Sundays result a full apology should be given to all supporters who travelled,no chance of a refund Bob Wolf.It is time someone at this footbaal club listened to its supporters.If there is to be a next time as Jez intimates then do as David Moyes has done today and see how many travel.
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51 – sbba – Are you REALLY a Wolves supporter?
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What makes me laugh is how Mick goes on about playing 2 games in 4 days!
These are supposed to be super fit 20-odd year olds and they cant even do that!
What a load of fairies footballers are these days.
They play on pitches as flat as a snooker table, have all the best gear and still they moan.
Get ya blooming boots on and start playing and not watching stupid stats.
Too much money, not enough heart!
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All credit to Mick for his bold manouvre. Somebody is drunk!
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No. 51. Barmy – What a Barmy argument
What on earth is wrong with these people who jump up and down and wish for the worst to happen to the team they spend alot of money and time on.
I don’t spend as much as many on these boards following the Wolves all round the country , but I tell you what I was as nervous as hell when 6 minutes injury time went up against spurs and was hoping against hope for the first 30 mins that we could keep a clean sheet gainst Man U.
If you want to be manager or CEO of Wolves then apply for the job. Lets see how you do.
One aim this season – staying up. In Mick etc we have to trust this season if we support the Wolves.
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Ok Moxey…just so we are aware in advance and the changes that were made are justified….What you/ Mr Morgan going to do if we lose against Burnley with our “strongest team”?
I agree with a lot of posts on here, you are not in touch with the wolves supporters, and to be fair if i was getting your money for the job you do and the perks you get, maybe the £42 could be written off, but as per the mail i have sent direct, I like many other fans are on the dole, and had to save & use other money to travel to Man Utd, but would not have done so if i was going to watch a team not capable of getting a result. Mc Carthy needs to check back to his video on sky sports pre match of “gonna ave a go at em”…total rubbish….you are bunch of greedy business men with only money as your mtivator…..
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Once again the fat controller hasn’t got a clue or doesn’t care about the fans.
I thought giving Albion the South Bank was bad enough.
Morgan, your the main man in charge, why don’t you say something?????
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Im sick and tired of wolves fans moaning MM done the right thing tues he saved our better players for sunday for a game we culd win more than united game. If we didnt win at spurs sat there would be no fuss on the matter. Up the wolves!
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Once again mr moxey has his finger directly on the footballing pulse……………..
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55. You’ve got a nerve. You castigate a ‘pratt’ for spending £100 to support the Wolves, travelling from God knows where, and you have the gall to criticise him, and anyone else with the same opinion, for daring to call the club into question.
Real fans (as you flippantly specify) pay £100 odd quid to travel up to watch their club on a gridlocked M6 in midweek. Real fans don’t accept the contempt spoon fed to them as a consequence. Real fans will be there again on Sunday, screaming themselves hoarse in the hope we get three points. Real fans don’t come on here, slagging eachother off for daring to call the morality and respect of the club into question. Sycophant.
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McCarthy has now set a precedent for future midweek fixtures.All of you supporting what Mad Mick has done,while having no sympathy for the travelling fans on tuesday,believe me he will field the same team against Man City on 28/12,only 2 days after playing Liverpool,we will see how you feel after forking out to watch a bunch of no-hopers waving the white flag as they come onto the pitch.Do you seriously think Morgan will allow Mad Mick to field an under strength team against his beloved Liverpool,ME THINKS NOT!!!
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rich5wolves : so what about the precedents set by Man Utd in the past ? Hull away last season when Newcastles relegation was still at stake ? Was that his best team or ws he planning for a European game ? Where was the punishment then ? Its ok for them to prioritise is it ? Stop pedalling a useless, failed, unsupported argument just because you dont like McCarthy – regardless of what happned this week.
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It would be too much to expect the cretinous Sun-reading council estate morons who fill up the E&S forums with their alcohol-fuelled rage to understand what MM and JM have done for the club over the last 3 years. We have gone from Championship mediocrity to champions with a reasonable chance of Premier survival whilst seeing young exciting passionate players.
Some of the arguments on here are beyond belief – “tell the fans before they buy the tickets the team line-up” (not many teams announce this several weeks before the game!)and “refund the fans” – what sort of message does this send out and will it now apply to every defeat or bad performance.
Some people are never happy unless they are moaning about someone or something – self-delusional behaviour masking their own inadequacies and lack of achievement.
Crawl back under your stones – morons….
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It’s a good job Mick made all these changes – it gives losers the chance to have a go at Jez because they haven’t been able to after we’ve won a couple.
Get over it – most of these pillocks don’t even go to the games so shut your stupid, collective mouths.
Whilst it’s great to go back to the glory days of the 50′s, Honved, Billy Wright etc, English football has changed significantly since then.
If you don’t like it you know where the park is on a Sunday morning. Try watching that instead.
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WELL SAID NO. 67. MOLE AND MOUNTAIN COMES TO MIND. I AM SICK OF YOU FICKLE FANS WHO ARE SO NEGATIVE AND ALMOST THRIVE ON THE PROSPECT OF WOLVES FAILING.
SUPPORT YOUR TEAM 100%
(BEFORE YOU COMMENT I HAVE SUPPORTED WOLVES SINCE THE AGE OF 8 AND I AM A SEASON TICKET HOLDER + AWAY GAMES)
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65. Monster – I’m guessing the most exercise you get is strolling down to the pub.
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Players can get injured in any game and also in training (seems to happen more often for Wolves) so resting players to avoid injury is a poor excuse in my opinion.
“He didn’t set out to lose” – then why play a team with no play-makers like Milijas or Jones.
“Mick felt it was his best team” – i doubt they will be playing the same against burnley on sunday
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IN MICK 50% OF US DO NOT TRUST
the pressure is now doubled because of mick’s unbelievable actions, you fancy being in his shoes if a “well rested” Wolves pack lose to a “drained-from-recent-draw-at-Arsenal-who-thumped us 4-1- Burnley side..?????
getting rid of mick now wont prove/improve anything, but should we fail to stay up, it must be bye bye birdie.
I only care about whats best for my beloved club. Managers / Fat CEOs come and go, the fans stay for life.
WE ARE WOLVES !
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It is very rare ,but on this issue I agree with Jez Moxey. Surely everybody could see how knackered the players were after their great performance on Saturday.It was a pragmatic solution to a stupid fixture pile up,caused no doubt to enable England to play a meaningless friendly earlier in the season. I seem to recall England played squad players in that friendly as well.
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McCarthy is entitled to do what he did. However, there is no avoiding the justly aggrieved fans who paid £42 plus and feel that they have been hard done by. For people then to become meely mouthed towards others’ points of view belongs in the gutter.
On the one hand Moxotic has discoverd the word empathy, on the other he can’t see what the fuss is all about.
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So muppet Mick is blaming “potential” injuries for the team selection at Utd ??
Is this the same Muppet mick who has played an injured Kightly so many times the lads career is in tatters ??
Don’t remember him protecting Kightly when he put him on against the mighty Chasetown despite having an injured ankle.
Also whats to stop players getting injured against Burnley – or in any other game ??
The whole thing stinks and its just more humiliation on our club !
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Some fans will never be happy always looking for the self destruct button
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79 Great point made that the media have conveniently missed out while they’ve been having their feeding frenzy interviewing Wolves supporters putting down the club and generally defending the “big” clubs.
Have England been punished for putting out a weakened/unexpected team against Brazil (second rate country of course) the other week. Or will the ultimate penalty be the loss of the 2018 world cup.
Lets be clear here. The tuesday night team wasn’t a weakened team – it was just unexpected. Sorry for the people who spent money and time but thats what it was.
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Can see the happy clappers are on here, and they go on about following and supporting the team
They obviously didn’t follow us to Old Trafford and spend their hard earned cash
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why are you so arogant all of the time is there no chance that you could ever think of the genuine football fan rather than money its utter rubbish that professional footballers cannot play two games in one week it was a disgraceful surrender of points george friend is possibly the worst footballer i have ever seen
shocking
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Wolves players get paid a very handsome salary to play for the club – Doyle reportedly on £21,000 a week. That’s more than a lot of people earn in a year – right! So,when I spend my hard earnt money to support the club I love, I expect the ‘best’ to play NOT the second string!! I can watch the second string for nowt(season ticket holder). Please MM and JM don’t short change me – this is an entertainment business – I was not amused to spend over £100 on Tuesday to watch understudies perform!! This has nothing to do with survival, it to do with respecting the paying public!! Whether we like it or not MM and now JM have disgraced the famous name of Wolverhampton Wanderers!The most worrying aspect of this unfortunate saga is that MM and JM show no shame!! Sort of sums up this league really – shameful!! But who really cares as long as we stay up – this is the wrong way!
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75 – Why does not agreeing with MM decision and thinking it was bad for the club = Sun reading, council house alcoholic? Can you not formulate a rational argument rather than just jump up and down shouting insults like a child?
For the last time loyalty to the club does not have to equate to a sycophantic love of it’s current administration. I care intensley for the club which is exactly why I feel compelled to speak out at what I think is a terrible and ill thought out decision. And for that matter I have never been anti-MM and have even tolerated Moxey.
However, I believe the club has been tarnished and it is an affront to it’s history and dignity that will take a long time to recover from. You may think otherwise, thats your prerogative.
Now, I’m back off to my council house to drink meths whilst reading the Sunday Sport – cheers!
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Some people get it but some (especially Jez) are missing the point.
YES – rest the players if you want to, you are the manager and if we lose Sun you know there will be hell to pay. If we get relegated you will get the sack, if we stay up you will be a hero – fair enough
NO – CEO you can’t treat the fans so badly and moan about the fuss they make. Escpecially as you don’t seem to be accountable and if we get relegated (AGAIN) on your watch you will probably still be in your job.
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83. obviously not and your point is?, if you want to waste your time and money thats up to you but dont expect everybody else to follow your idea like sheep. you obviously have a problem with the people in charge, morgan.moxey mcarthy, but i think they are doing a fantastic job , by the way im a season ticket holder. utw wwfc 3 burnley 0
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southbank barmy army, what a muppet you are, how can you say your a proud wolves fan in one breath and then hope burnley stuff us in the next, its fans like you that breed all the negativity that we get at the wolves, get a life muppet or get out of wolves..
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24. Let it go will you? If you are still moaning about West Br*m gettng the South Bank in the FA Cup tie you need to do some research. The South Bank was the only stand that they could have, the lower Steve Bull isn’t a large enough section for FA cup away fans and the North Bank can’t be used for away fans due the access to the stand.
51. You hope we lose on Sunday? Sometimes i’m ashamed to sit in the same stand as people like you. Why would you want Wolves to lose on Sunday? Absolute joker.
Spurs 0-1 Wolves 3 points
Man Utd 3-0 Wolves ‘reserves’ 0 points
Wolves 2-0 Burnley 3 points
=6 points
Spurs 0-1 Wolves 3 points
Man Utd 2-1 Wolves ‘First team’ 0 points
Wolves 0-0 Burnley 1 points
=4 points
I know it’s far from factual, and the Man Utd result on Tuesday can never now be simulated as the variables on fitness/suspensions/run of the ball/luck/etc can never be replicated, but I feel a 2-0 defeat is still a good result (seeing as we lost 4-0 at Stamford Bridge. If fans looked at the reason MM has made this decision, rather than just be annoyed that they spent £50 at OT I think the numerous message boards and newspaper columns would be much quieter, as would the press.
Remember, if we beat Burnley on Sunday, we’ll have 19 points from 18 games, on a pro rata basis that equates to 38 points in the season, if we lose we’re on track for 33-34, what do you want? Let’s support the boys and move up the table.
In Mick We Trust.
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Brummie rob wolf 31, i agree with you mate, well said..
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75 matt what time are the computers turned off in hmp featherstone
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Wolves are being vilified in every press and media release I’ve read today. Headlines like “brave Burnley get their just rewards” and comments like “Burnley prove you don’t have to wave the flag of surrender when playing one of the big four”. Burnley are going to come into this game on fire with the support of the whole country behind them. All the pressure will be on Wolves.
The good news is Burnley have only picked up 1 point out of a possible 24 on their travels this season….but then again Portsmouth had an equally dire record when they came to visit!
So this is it, all the cards on the table. Anything less than a win would be very damaging, not just to our league position but also physiologically to our (rested 1st team) players.
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I think its a disgrace pure and simple…we haven’t all got £40 to throw away here and there…especially in this economic climate and especially this close to christmas…In the villa example Jez mentioned the fans were offered a meal by means of apology, i’d be amazed if any such gratitude would be show to the loyal wolves fans who travelled up to Manchester full of optimism after the spurs game! Burnley seem to be having little difficulty playing week in week out under the pressures of the Premier League ok, they might not always be winning but they look much better value for money then we are right now. Sort it out Mick because we don’t all have abundant patience with you…
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of course you cant see what all the fuss is about you know nothing about the feelings of football fans and you did’nt have to pay to go and watch the game you sat in the directors box with your prawn sarnies and champers you could’nt give two hoots what we think or what we go through to get to games and follow our team
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THere are 42 good reasons for a start Mr Moxey !! How on earth can you be so out of touch with the feelings of your fan / customer base. Very dangerous business practice sir …. the backlash is coming
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No. 53 It’s a figure of speech mate, the vast majority of fans feel exactly the same as I do. I’m guessing you didn’t go just like most of the other happy clappers, otherwise you’d think differently.
What Mick did on Tues was extreme. I could understand him resting even five players, but 10 is ridiculous, not all those players have played every game this season and there is no way we can honestly say he picked a team that was ever going to beat Man Utd.
Did anyone even fancy us to beat Spurs. Not really. But we played our first team and won. Just like Burnley did against Arsenal and got a very credible draw.
I understand the logic behind resting players but not to the extent where you field a completely different team from one game to the next.
What Mick did completely undermines the integrity of the Premier League competition. Only when we’ve secured our premier league status, would I excuse the manager for picking a vastly under strength team and even then I’d never agree with 10 outfield changes.
This whole episode has cast a huge shadow of embarrassment over our club. The pressure on the ‘first team’ to beat Burnely will be immense. Let’s hope the players can cope with it.
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completly agree with you number 7 spot on. All these moaners do my head in sometimes i wish we would have a better fan base and not 1 that moans at every single thing he does. GREAT DECISION MICK KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRING ON BURNLEY SUNDAY WE WILL HAVE A FULLY FIT TEAM IGNORE THE PATHETIC SO CALLED SUPPORTERS MOANING AGAIN! THEY ALL NEED TO DO 1
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MICK!!!!!
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Wenger had a right go at us talking about how the season should only be over 37 games and then went on to complain that two games in four days was too much for his players and intimated that it was the reason why Cesc got injured. Well Arsene perhaps if you had played a squad rotation like we did then Fabregas wouldn’t be missing some games through injury.
We had better get three points off burnley this week is all I can say.
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SUPER MICK! In our position a lot of others would of done the same. If we were at home i dont think so many changes would of been made perhaps more against tottenham sat. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK MICK AND THE LADS!
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Alex Raes Butler – Who even mentioned not liking Mcarthy, hes seems like a good chap actually, just a nugget manager.
I take it you didnt go to Man U then?? If not then dont try and feel the frustration all of us who went did. Dont even comment in fact.
I have never known a Wolves team to role over before a ball is kicked before………if it starts from the top down then oh dear…….
Flawed argument?? there is no argument, we played the reserves at Manchester United, fans are annoyed and feel ripped off. You can say rightly or wrongly but no-one expected that and it has angered a lot of people.
NEWS FLASH – Alex Raes Butler knows more than Arsene Wenger!!!!
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I’ll be glad when the nationals get back to their page upon page of endlessly trivial coverage of their precious Top Four and leave us little clubs alone.
P.S. Shared a prawn sandwich and a small glass of Pino Grigio with Foxy Moxy on tuesday.
Won’t be asking for my money back, but, then I’m extremely richer than yow !
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the crucial difference between what the likes of wenger, ferguson and benitez have done in the past in fielding ‘weakened’ sides, and what mccarthy did on tuesday night, is that the former managers acted knowing the teams they put out were infinitely more capable of competing with the opposition, than was the wolves team mccarthy selected. mccarthy knew from the moment he decided on the team that they would lose, and that completely undermined the essence of competition and sporting integrity. in that sense, neither he nor the club have a leg to stand on in countering accusations of cheating both the supporters and other premier league clubs.
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53. Alex Rae’s Butler
I am so pleased that I find myself in total disagreement with what you write.
My dread is that one day I will start thinking like you, a total idiot!
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The famous Bill Shankley once said, you win nothing being pessemistic nothing, what happened at man.utd, whether you agree with mick or not its gone. now we move on to burnley, we must stick together, we fight them on the beaches, we fight them on the streets, we fight them at molineux, we will never surrender, never surrender..
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AT LEAST WE’VE PLAYED MAN U AND CHELSEA AWAY ,NOT TO FORGET SPURS AND MAN CITY,BY THE TIME NEW YEAR COMES WUD HAVE PLAYED LIVERPOOL AWAY ALSO,WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ARSENAL AWA AND MAYBE VILLA,WE HAVE 18 GAMES TO GET 7 WINS ,BURNLEY AND HULLS AWAY RECORD WILL RELEGATE THEM ALONG WITH PORTSMOUTH,HULL 2 PTS AWAY ,BURNLEY 1 POINTS ,,IN MICK WE TRUST
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You can not compare Billy Wright’s team with todays team,Billy’s team would have been classed as one of the BIG four not fighting relegation,plus attitudes were different and money had’nt ruined football as a working class sport.I can understand MM for tuesdays team selection and why he did it.Blame the BIG FOUR they started fielding weaken teams years ago, thinking it was to there advantage with bigger games coming up, but now a so called “small” club does it to gain an advantage, its hammered in the press.Money is the root cause of all thats wrong with football and will be until it is taken away.I sympathize with wolves fans who went to utd giving up time and money,but we would have still got beat even if we had put out the first team,the Spurs game took a lot out of them and utd don’t lose two at home.
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101. launzwolves
Another Happy Clapper who doesn’t go to games! If you had just squandered £100+ on a pathetic game at Manure, then you would be complaining as well. Especially when the CEO states that he can’t see what the fuss is all about!
Real supporters go to matches and speak about what they see, not what they imagine!
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I can see the point of those who travelled to Old Trafford and in current times the money could have been better spent. So to you brave souls i have a lot of sympathy.
On the other hand if the premier league take action against us then it will truely show where the power is held. That is in the hands of the big four clubs. Wenger is a miserable moaning so and so, at the end of the day Mick has to do what he feels is in the best interests of the club and not in the best interests of arsenal or the other so called big teams.
Stuff them i say and when wenger says that Mick and Wolves have devalued the premiership then i say why have the big four consistently devauled the FA Cup by either not either playing or feilding their youth team.
It makes me sick that they think they can ride rough shod over every other team in the country as they think it all revolves around them.
To be honest i would much rather be in the championship with real club owners and fans any day of the week and away from those who only wish is to feather there own pockets.
Forever Wolves, lets hope we beat Burnley. But stuff the big four as they dont give a crap about us.
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The premier league is not a super football league. It is a mixture of “have” and “have not” clubs. In the “fifties” I was proud to support the Wolves. Today I can only have a superficial interest.
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well well well folks it is plain to see now what the Fat Controller thinks of us all. I respect MMcArthy but he got it wrong and now this club is definately in the spot light & for all the wrong reasons! Moxey should go as i have said before. We have a great & passionate fan base and a great stadium thanks to Sir Jack. But we desparately need a major change at this club. There has got to be someone out there who would take this club forward. We do have some good players who play there hearts out but we need more quality. January is looming so lets see if the fat controller opens the vault. Judging from the photo of him we can see who ate all the pie’s.
Refund now please Moxey!!!!!
Come you wolves. Get out Moxey.
Up the Woffers!!
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Like I said Yesterday I chose not to renew the season ticket I had had for 18 years following the Hoddle debacle and the lack of respect shown by Mr Moxey to the fans.
I really cannot believe some of the comments of the McCarthy can do no wrong brigade.
I am so glad I was brainwashed by the people in football during the late sixties early seventies, when every team tried to win every game and not this lot.
If you paid £50 quid to watch U2 play wembley and just before they were due to come on the management said sorry the guys did a gig 2 days ago so they are having a rest here is Achtung Baby they do good covers what would you think.
Listen guys here’s a suggestion carry on going to the games and supporting the team, the players are not at fault.
Try however to stop buying the merchandise from the club shop even if it is only for the rest of the season, I know this wont happen but it would be a way to show you concern at being taken for granted.
whatever level the game is played at it is about TRYING to beat the big boys
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Were I understand what the fans that went to old trafford feel(and no I didn’t go because I could not afford it), lets not forget that non of us know what the team is going to be before a match-we go to watch Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C, we played members of the first team squad of wich 6 were full internationals and 4 were U21s of the whole squad 8 were full internationls and 5 were U21s, how would you feel if we picked up more injuries and still lost to man u then burnley?
lets put this behind us and get back to supporting the “team” because we are doing real damage by keeping it going.
We are Wolves……………………
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Had to laugh guys, read advert for Half Season tickects for last 10 games starting with Man City and to include Liverpool, Chelsea and Man Utd
Lot of money to pay for 6 first team matches and 4 reserve games LOL.
Before you McCarthy fans jump down my throat
What team will he pick for the home matches you cant be sure now can you. But you will be happy as long as he plays a strong side against Burnley, Wigan, Stoke and Blackburn.
Sorry I shouldn’t laugh
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It’s somewhat sad how the culture has changed.
I grew up in the sixties, a time when we played to win, no matter who we played. Honesty was key, no diving, stay on your feet, play hard but fair.
What we see here is a form of cheating, and it’s not just McCarthy, it’s the face of football today. These are young athletes, surely three games in a week can be done. The Wolves once great image has been tarnished. Let the others cheat if they choose, we don’t have to.
All the people saying we would have lost anyway, probably said it about Spurs too.
Mr. Mcarthy, as a Wolves fan I expect you to try and motivate your players to win every game. I expect you to field the best team (changes yes, not 10). We could have beat MU, you choose to beat Burnley, Burnley is going to field their reserves because they will lose to us anyway, right.
Give me an honest team (Manager), win or lose.
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Once again Moxey shows his arrogance and contempt for the loyal supporters who paid and made the trip to Old Trafford.He is so out of touch with the fans.Do us a favour Moxey and go!
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the management dont get. Its a slap in the face for the hard core supporters the 3500 away fans.
Imagine going to a rock concert, great venue top act ie coldplay top wack prices,only the drummer plays, rest of the group made up of the warm up act still call themselves coldplay though!Would that cause a riot or what.Wait and see what goes around comes around, come towards end of season when euro positions are sorted arsenal chelsea etc will pay us back for our arrogance.
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108 mad tunna
You can’t ever repeat that Chrchill speech again about Wolves, we surrendered.
That’s why so many Wolves supporters, as opposed to Mick supporters, are so angry at what was done in the name of Wolves!
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We have gone from being Wolves into surrender monkeys!
Just wait to hear what the opposition fans will chant at us from now on! What will be hard to take is that it is deserved…
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California Wolf, In 1965 one week before the cup final,Liverpool came to Molineux for a top flight league match and played a team of reserves,only one player Geoff Strong played in the cup final,and that was due to injury to Gordon Milne.If the great Bill Shankley can do it so can Mick McCarthy.Please don’t give us any of that hippy trippy stuff about the 60s.
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We came out with our hands up.
Surrendered before the match began.
There aye anythin’ you can say!
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No 100=Sums it all in a rational way.
Now we have the result of the Fulham/United game and we await our performance on Sunday=I like the presumption that Burnley will be a result for us I hope so BUT having analysed past result it as never been easy.
Summing all the views MM was wrong only a convincing performance to-morrow will in some way give him a little credibility again. But we must move on-
Moxey’s camments are contemptable but thats the man–
Keep the Faith-Wear your Woolies. Crazey Dave
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Fulham 3 – Man Utd 0
Enough said – at least 1 point thrown away
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