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Fury over state of council home
Thursday 19th November 2009, 11:30AM GMT.
Boarded up windows, live wires hanging from the roof and piles of rubbish and broken glass in the garden – this was the scene which greeted mother-of-two Stephanie Lewnes when she was handed the keys to her new council home.
The house in Hillside Road, Dudley, has been branded “disgraceful” by furious policicians who say they are appalled the property had been allocated to a young family.
Miss Lewnes said it was “unthinkable” that she would let her seven-year-old son Cameron and five-month-old daughter Lilly, stay in a house in such a bad state of disrepair. “I was shocked, upset and angry when I first saw the house,” she said.
“They expected me to move in with my children on the day they gave me the keys, which I wasn’t prepared to do. There were piles of rubbish in the garden, dirty nappies and dog mess. It was just disgusting,” the 28-year-old supply chain manager added.
She said live wires were left dangling from the roof at the back of the house.
Miss Lewnes said the inside of the house was “relatively acceptable” although the windows sills were falling off and there were damp patches downstairs.
Dudley North MP Ian Austin, who has visited the house with Miss Lewnes, has slammed Dudley Council over its condition.
He said: “Anyone who moved into this house would have to spend time and money hiring a skip, clearing the land and making the property secure. I cannot believe that Dudley Council is happy for people to live in these conditions.”
Ward councillor Alan Finch said: “This property is a disgrace. I will work along- side Ian Austin and local residents such as Stephanie to make sure we find houses like this, get them fixed up, cleaned and occupied.
Dudley Council’s cabinet member for housing Councillor David Simms was unavailable for comment today.
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Doesn’t the council have a legal obligation to make the place safe before letting a tenant move in? They have to remove all appliances left by the previous tenant in case they are not safe. So you’d think they would also have to make sure there were no exposed live wires and no piles of rubbish and broken glass in the garden. It’s just completely stupid that they would expect anyone to move in to such awful conditions.
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I suspect there has been a mix-up somewhere that a quick phone call to the local housing office could no doubt have sorted out. And – talk about kicking a man when he’s down – Cllr Simms was probably ‘unavilable for comment’ when the press called because the poor guy also has to work for a living during the day!
However, I suppose one could say ‘well done, Ian Austin’ for spotting a quick headline to be hand at the Council’s expense. Shame though that he isn’t so quick off the mark to tell the people of Dudley North how his government plans to extract their troops from Afghanistan or pay off the £700,000,000,000 of debt that his prime minister has now saddled them all with.
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Perhaps this the state of things to come. After all this is the council that wanted to sell off it’s housing stock to private landlords untill the tenants said no. Perhaps payback from the council who don’t have the money anymore to do these properties up.
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I think she is very lucky to get a council house were everyting is payed for roofs heating ect which home owners are paying through there taxes,secondley if i bought a house could i get the council to pay for the improvements!!!!! i could really see dudley council saying yes (not)
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Well done Express & Star – could you tell me what a ‘policician’ is ??? Is this a new government body – or another typo reflecting the dumbing down of our society ? Don’t know why I’m typing this anyway (with no spelling mistakes) because you won’t publish it anyway !!!!
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I wonder how long this premises was in this state and who felt it would be acceptable. I also find it disgraceful that in this day and age, we have people living like this. Finally, I wonder if the Council would have been ‘unavailable’ for comment had this building been given to say, immigrants. I wonder if it would have been in the same state.
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Hillary said
I suspect there has been a mix-up somewhere that a quick phone call to the local housing office could no doubt have sorted out. And – talk about kicking a man when he’s down – Cllr Simms was probably ‘unavilable for comment’ when the press called because the poor guy also has to work for a living during the day!
Hillary “because the poor guy also has to work for a living during the day” ???
Simple answer, he doesn’t have the time to devote to doing the job of councillor properly, stand down and let someone have the job that can, this family deserve to be represented in the best way possible, they do not deserve to have to live in squalor just because a councillor is trying to get an income from being a councillor and from his full time job.
Too many MP’s and councillors take on too many jobs to the detriment of the people they are purporting to represent, it not unusual for MP’s to hold directorships at several different companies, they are elected to do a job, that’s what comes first, the choice of that job is down to the MP or Councillor, how they do that job is not an option for them to choose.
Jim of Bearwood.
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I wish someone would hand me the keys to a free house, whatever state it’s in. I’d just get on with it and try and sort it out.
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Hillary i did complain to the council the day i was given the keys and they were not interested. Over a week later and nothing has been done to the property and i have not had any contact from the council. This is why i had to take it further. Mr Dudley, i was forced to sell my house due to rising interest rates on mortgages and i have always worked full time and paid my taxes, therefore asking for a safe property for my children to live in is justified. Sam its not free i would have to pay Rent, council tax and all other amenity bills just like everyone else has to.
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Thanks for the support Hillary! The council does have a policy of allowing people to view suitable properties whilst repair work is being carried out but would not normally allow people to view such a property without an officer present.
The so called ‘live’ cables were in fact a single redundant cable which was not live and will be removed. The rubbish was there as a result of fly tipping and has been removed today. All the council is trying to do is give potential tenants the opportunity to say yes to a property with the knowledge that the council will then guarantee that major jobs will be done prior to the handover of keys. This is to shorten the time that a property will remain empty.
The problem for the council is how to ensure that the property is secured during the time between council workers finishing their jobs and keys being handed over to the new tenant. That is what the issue was here and I can assure you that it is being dealt with.
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Hilary, i did complain to the council on the day i was given the keys and they were not interested. I complained again a couple of days later. It has now been over a week and the property is still in the same state. Mr Dudley i was recently forced to sell my home due to rising mortgage interest rates and the recession, I have always worked full time and paid my taxes therefore asking for a safe home for my children i think is justified. Sam, this property would not be free, i would have to pay rent, council tax and all all other amenity bills just like everyone else.
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JimG – so are you suggesting that we only permit full-time councillors to stand for office? In which case you would probably need to pay them thirty grand a year each instead.
Or, on reflection, would you prefer we stick with the present (far cheaper) system whereby councillors are drawn from the communities they serve? In which case you will have to accept that, like the people in the communities they serve, they too have to do a job of work in order to feed and clothe their kids?
In the latter instance, you will also have to accept that the nature of the varied jobs they often hold down means it is not always going to be possible for them to drop what they’re doing right there and then just because the local Labour MP has rushed out his latest press release.
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Unfortunately this is not an isolated incident, a one-off, or a simple matter of this lady cslling in the papers before giving the council a chance to sort it out.
I was given the keys to a council house – and along with them – responsibility for the rent etc. over 3 weeks ago and to this day communication with the council has been an ordeal and the work required just to bring the house up to legal building regs had to be discovered and requested by me not to mention the damp problems and damaged roofing not being repaired yet.
The fact is kes and therefore tenancies for these properties should not be given out until the necessary checks and subsequent work is complete.
As it stands I am left feeling that the council – as a landlord – is not carrying out its responsibilities to its customers, they are simply trying to get away with doing as little work as possible and hoping the new tenants won’t stand up for themselves. It is a shame that more people feel they cannot step forward to complain because they are looked down upon by people who are against social housing. This is how politcians turn complaints about the state of council housing into arguments about government policy so it all just deflects and nothing gets done. Surely everyone can see this and could agree that it would just be better to sort out each problem one at a time and not let complaints like these go unanswered because someone else wants to change the subject?
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I will be writing to my MP’s if they can be of any help to others facing the council alone. And I would gladly forward photo’s, emails and letters on to the newspaper to further support complaints aout this council’s housing inadequacies.
(Apologies for any typing errors in the above btw – feeling are running fairly high on this subject as you may well appreciate)
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At least shes got a council place, ive been waiting for 10months, going on their website placing bids and have heard nothing, i cant even get a 1 bed flat, i placed my bid for a 2 bed room flat in gornal 3 months ago heard nothing from the council and the flat is still empty!!!!!
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Ray, a councillor is there to represent the people who pay the expenses that they claim, many councillors claim expenses amounting to 4 or 5 times the minimum wage, there isn’t the slightest reason in the world for them to have another job except pure greed.
That’s the problem with MP’s and Councillors, they don’t live in the same world as the people they represent, how can an MP on £300.000 a year know what its like to have to exist on the minimum wage of £13.000 a year??????
Had this been given to an immigrant family or asylum seekers this property would have been gone through with a fine toothcomb to make sure it was faultless.
If you’re a councillor and your income is more than £30.000 a year then you have no right to have any other job than that of representing the people who put you into office.
Having an income of £30.000 a year is only a dream for most of the residents living in the West Midlands.
If they have no meetings to attend they can always be given a broom and shovel to clean up the mess round the borough.
Jim of Bearwood.
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10. Read the first paragraph again..the bit about being handed over keys. Apparently the lady in question was given them – despite the house being in such a state.
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ITS OK WE ARE THE INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF THIS ONCE GREAT NATION. WE ARE HAPPY TO BE TREATED LIKE PIGS, WE DESERVE TO BE TREATED LIKE PIGS. ITS GOING TO GET WORSE IM AFRAID. A CARING SOCIETY MY ARSE.
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BOO hoo you have been given a free house and it needs some work doing to it i feel very sorry for you.
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Whether a house is free or not is irrelevant really. At the end of the day if a house is offered it should be in a state that is fit to live in.
Cllr David Simms have you actually been to the property yourself? – I doubt it
Would you live in the property yourself? – I doubt it.
Do you actually care? – Again i doubt it. As long as the numbers are rolled out and targets are met. You have probably had that many people grateful for housing in the past they will take anything. So you think you can offer anything.
Just because its offered for ‘free’ as people keep saying there is no need for the council to take the p**s.
And the people who keep saying you can clear it up. How can you clear up boarded up windows?
Dont take your hatred out on genuine people who actually qualify for housing the right way, when really you should be slamming the council for offering places to illegal immigrants that shouldnt even be here in this country.
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In response to no. 20. Yes I have visited the property and I can confirm that the rubbish has been removed. Yes, I would live in the property, infact until recently my wife and I (together with our 6 children) lived in a 3 bedroom semi-detached council property so I am only too aware of the issues with some of our properties. However all council house rent monies go straight to the government not to the local authority and the council then only gets a small proportion back. Even the council rents are actually set by government too but when theres an increase its the council that takes the blame.
In short trying to match peoples aspirations within ever decreasing budgets is always going to be difficult but yes, I do care, indeed my fellow councillors and I, on all parties, would not put ourselves forward for election if we didn’t.
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i agree with #8 sam. we are a family of 4 (2 adults,2 children)living in a 1 bedroom 3rd floor flat and are bidding week in week out to get a 2 or 3 bed house. we cant get out of here no matter what we do. a property was recently given up 50 yards away from where we live i even offerd the person money and her removal to her new house but in the end she “done a runner” along with the kitchen but not the 17 cats she left behind. last but not least how is this house free? the new tenant has to pay the rent ,council tax etc! surely nearly if not all of the persons who have commented on this article have been in council accomodation at some point so this is far from a free house
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Mrs HomeOwner, your entitled to live in reasonable living conditions, for too long the British people have settled for second best and that’s the problem here, the council assume that because this woman is British she can have the leftovers in the housing market.
The council should be responsible for returning this property to pristine condition, they allocated the house to one of their tenants, their tenant left in the state it was in, they should refurbish it.
In the past when you left a Council house you would have been made to put it back to its original condition, what’s wrong with the council having staff whose job it is to constantly go round and ensure tenants are looking after the council property the Council own?????
Cllr David Simms don’t come that sob story about the council having no money!!!!!!
The council raise money through the council tax system, that money is then allocated to different departments of the council, it’s called a budget, that department then makes sure all that money is used up before the next tax year; if they don’t use the full budget their next budget is reduced!!!!!!!!
Its therefore not in anyone’s interest to make savings because the budget is reduced, what a ridiculous system when you cant move money from one department to another, so you run short of money in the housing department but another department has an abundance of money that they have to waste on harebrained schemes like “The Grange Road Traffic Island” “The deliberate congestion causing concrete blocking of traffic in Kent Road” both totally needless use of Council Tax Payers money, and that’s why this girl and her family are expecting to have to live in squalor, for no other reason than the incompetence of Dudley Council and it Councillors!!!!!
Jim of Bearwood.
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i am sorry but i am sick of hearing the “illegal immigrant” story, the only reason immigrants get properties is that they are prepared to go to supported accom first as they are homeless!!!! the only reason this property had “bar it” boards up the windows is simple…without them the windows would be smashed by yobs and most probably set fire to costing MORE TAX PAYERS MONEY, wasting more time i.e longer waiting lists!!!! and the litter was from a skip! even the moaning lady said the property wasnt that bad inside. DMBC cant do anything right!
the new way of bidding also gives people the choice of what they bid on, so surely she could have gone around and had a look at the property from the outside before???
this lady just thinks by going to the paper she will get offered something better!!!
PFFFFFTTTT!!! some people really makes me angry.
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JimG
I can assure you that most councillors do NOT receive anywhere near the minimum wage in allowances. And only the Leader of Dudley Council – which is to all-intents-and-purposes a full time job – receives anything like £30,000!
Even after the recent 25% rise (which I, along with many of my colleagues, opposed) Dudley’s councillors will receive just short of £10,000 per annum in basic allowance, for which they will often be required to spend three or four nights out each week, plus a good deal of weekend time, attending meetings or dealing with residents’ concerns. For example I have spent most of today on inspection visits to social services establishments in the Borough (for which I have had to use a day of my holiday entitlement from work). Tonight, I will be attending the AGM of one of Dudley’s autism support groups.
My choice I know, but perhaps you could explain how anyone with a family can survive on £10,000 without recourse to a ‘proper’ job as well. I, like many councillors, therefore have to hold down just such a day job and fit the rest of the tasks we are required to do around this.
Regarding the Council’s budget, council house spending is ‘ring-fenced’ in what is known as the Housing Revenue Account comprised of rents and other specific government housing grants. It is forbidden by law to use money from elsewhere in the Council’s main budget to pay for the maintenance of our council housing stock. This has to all be paid for out of the proceeds of the HRA account instead.
To complicate matters further, the Government levies upon Dudley what it calls a ‘negative housing subsidy’ (but which in reality is just a fancy name for a stealth tax on every council house tenant in Dudley!). Therefore, Dudley has to pay back to the Government £8 million in ‘negative subsidy’. That’s one reason why the Council can’t almost attend to maintenance issues as fast as it would like – although given that since the Conservatives have been in control of Dudley repair waiting times have come down from being measured in months and years to days and weeks instead that’s no mean achievement even so.
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Cllr Ray Burston you said: “Even after the recent 25% rise (which I, along with many of my colleagues, opposed) Dudley’s councillors will receive just short of £10,000 per annum in basic allowance, for which they will often be required to spend three or four nights out each week”
£10,000 per annum in basic allowance????? so 3 meetings a week times 52 weeks = 156 so that’s £10.000 divided by 156 that works out about £64 a night, not a bad pick up when you think of the average wage for thousands of your Council Tax Payers is about £40 a day for an 8 hour shift.
Cllr Ray Burston, you have just made my case for me: “Regarding the Council’s budget, council house spending is ‘ring-fenced’ in what is known as the Housing Revenue Account comprised of rents and other specific government housing grants. It is forbidden by law to use money from elsewhere in the Council’s main budget to pay for the maintenance of our council housing stock. This has to all be paid for out of the proceeds of the HRA account instead” And that’s the problem all council budgets have to be used up or the budget gets cut next year, there is no incentive for Councils to attempt to make savings that will result in the Council Tax being cut for Dudley residents.
To the people who keep harping on about a free house, she is not getting a free house, she has paid tax, her parents would have paid tax, her grandparents would have probably have gone to war to protect this country, she is getting only what is due to her.
Jim of Bearwood.
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dave1, why should anyone have to go into “supported accom”????????
I grew up in Council Housing so am well aware of the Council House system, you put your name on the Council Housing list and as a house becomes available tenants who have waited long enough and have the appropriate needs are offered that house, when tenants circumstances change and they hear of another tenant who wants to exchange houses that exchange would take place on the same day.
If anyone moved out of a council house the tenant would have to ensure the house was returned to its original condition and was habitable.
Then everything changed and new immigrants were seen as having overall priority because they were judged to be homeless, which has led to this situation being bought about, it wasn’t so long ago that a local council was building 5 bedroom houses specifically for newly arriving immigrants whose culture dictated that they had large families.
I would have to agree Local Councils didn’t devise the open door policy on immigration, that was down to the Blair / Brown contempt for the British people.
Jim of Bearwood.
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JimG
Three meetings a week? Er, no, not quite.
More like three formal meetings a week (sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on how your particular meetings line up the six-weekly committee cycle), plus other non-committee meetings (such as training and briefing sessions), plus other miscellaneous meetings of residents’ groups, disability support groups, etc, plus phone calls from residents with problems, plus phone calls and e-mails to officers to sort those problems out, plus the time necessary to read, research and digest council business (and I assure you some committee agendas rival telephone directories in size!). Then add on top of that the effort necessary to promote your particular party’s cause (organising, campaigning, leaflet delivery, etc) – not strictly speaking council business, I know, but you are a councillor and therefore a leading figure in your party, so it has to be done and you have to demonstrate a lead in doing it.
Indeed, recounting all these things reminds me why my wife is always moaning that she never sees me! So were ine to measure these things in strictly monetary terms I’d say most councillors probably earn their £10,000 a year.
However, that is to miss the point. The principal reason why I have opposed increasing councillors’ allowances is not just because it places a needless burden on our already burdened council taxpayers, but because I believe that it is vital for local democracy that a healthy measure of the ‘voluntary’ element of being councillor is retained. And by edging allowances up to the point where they do start to become a salary that element is not only weakened, but the risk increases that people will be attracted to becoming a councillor (and for seeking advancement on the council) with entirely the wrong motives.
Added to which, as your posts have proved, when councillors receive large sums of money for what they do people will demand an instant response (not unreasonably, they probably think – after all, they’re ‘paying’ for the service!). However, when councillors – including Cabinet members for Housing – still have jobs and families to attend to that is simply not always going to be possible.
That said, even on £10,000 a year basic allowance I doubt if the electoral registration office will be inundated with applicants standing for election next May. In fact, all the main parties sometimes have to scratch around to find candidates in local elections – even in winnable seats! So perhaps, on balance, being a councillor – and having to take onboard all the duties, commitments and responsibilities that go with it – is not such a good screw after all.
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