Wolves bigger than Stoke – Henry
Friday 30th October 2009, 11:30AM GMT.
Wolves captain Karl Henry returns to Stoke insisting he joined a “bigger and better club” by moving to Molineux.
Three years on from arriving at Molineux on trial, the 26-year-old locks horns with the Potters for the first time tomorrow in the Premier League with his profile never higher.
Man of the Match in the live televised draw against Villa last weekend, the former England under-21 international was tipped for possible full international honours by team-mate Michael Kightly this week.
It’s a far cry from 2006 when he arrived at the club, boots under his arm, for a try-out against Villa before signing for a bargain £100,000. Not surprisingly, the Wolverhampton-born midfielder returns to the Britannia Stadium with no regrets.
Henry also feels Wolves represent a better long-term bet than Stoke, despite boss Tony Pulis currently having more clout in the transfer market, with £10m of talent in two likely substitutes tomorrow in Tuncay and Dave Kitson.
But Henry said: “I feel I’ve moved to a bigger club, a better club and I’m completely happy. I feel I’ve developed massively at Wolves.
“I think you grow as a player playing week in, week out and getting the confidence I’ve got from the manager gives you so much self-belief that you can’t fail to grow as a player.
“I’ve thoroughly enjoyed it and I’ve learned a lot from playing regularly.”
Henry is also convinced he has banished Stoke boss Tony Pulis’ opinion that he lacked a winning mentality.
The midfielder said: “I remember Tony Pulis referring to me as a nice passer but maybe lacking a winning mentality. I feel I’ve certainly got that now and I can thank Mick McCarthy for instilling that in me.”
Henry believes he will receive an indifferent response after admitting leaving the Potteries as potential unfulfilled.
He said: “I’m probably going to get a fairly impartial reception.”
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oh dear theres the ammunition for stoke,i hope these comments dont jump up and kick you in the teeth,now you and the team have got to prove what you say in your comments and the only way to do that is to win on saturday? WE ARE WOLVES
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well who can arguw with carl henrey, after all he is going to partna gerrard and lampard in in the world cup finals,aye boing boing
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I dont think there is any doubt Wolves are a bigger club. Down here in Hertfordshire there are dozens of other Wolves fans around. The trains are packed full of us from London on matchdays. Cant say ive ever seen a Stoke shirt around here.
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why come out and say that 24 hours before a game….you prat! by 5pm tomoorow you could be eating your words….hope im wrong but oh my god wolves players have big mouths at the wrong time. say that kind of stuff IF we beat stoke.
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Stoke are no bigger than Port Vale.
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Oh for god sake!
As if Stoke needed this to get themselves worked up for this! You might as well have done Pullis’s team talk for him!
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“Man of the Match in the live televised draw against Villa last weekend”
Ridiculous. How many hatricks as he scored this season?
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must admit, thought he would struggle the most out of our midfielders, but i stand corrected. well done mate. England honours are maybe a bit ott!! by far the best midfielder we have at the moment. liking the henry/castillo partnership…looks good,solid and defensive, kights and jarvo to do the attacking, and milijas to come on if extra needed.
BRING ON THE POTTERS!!
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Hopefully you’ll put in another man of the match performance tomorrow Karl. We’ll need something as this will be a hard battle. I’m looking forward to this more than the Villa game! UTW
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Nice one Karl….wind ‘em up.
History proves beyond doubt we are a much bigger club, but, we are talking NOW.
Stoke deserve to be bracketed in the middle section of the Premiership after their exploits last season, their transfer dealings in the summer and what they are achieving so far this term.
No doubt about it, we will be punching above our weight to get points at the Brittania.
That’s not to suggest we are not capable of doing to them what they did to ‘arry’s boys last week.
After breaking his duck with a pen against the Villa, this Stoke defence, without Huth, is tailor made for SEB to push onwards and upwards.
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karl, stoke are bigger and better club since we got rid of you, you must have noticed
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Lot of dingles out of the area because you can’t wait to leave!!
Think you may be in for a hostile reception karl!
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2,you mean yow aint no bigger than port vale,yowm just a small town in biston aye boing boing
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The headline reminds me of John Lennon’s comment that the Beatles were bigger than God.
Now Stoke don’t burn your fingers burning your old Karl Henry shirts & signed photo’s.
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Whether we are a bigger club or not (Clearly we are) is of no consequence at the moment, they survived and in fact thrived last season and look like repeating that feat or better this season and clearly they have more spending power than us at this point, would have loved us to have signed Tuncay. What matters is getting a result against a very tough, very competitive side who are steadliy becoming a proven Prem team which is where we want to be. If we can match Stoke FC endevour and achievements over the next couple of seasons our ‘Big Club’ status will no doubt begin to come in to play and then move us above and beyond where a Stoke or Wigan could go (without a middle eastern Sugar Daddy), I mean that with no disrespect. My head says we will struggle to come away with anything, my heart says 2-1 the Wolves. Lets just hope MM doesn’t play into their hands and go like for like, toe to toe because what they do they do very well much like Bolton under Allardyce.
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I’m glad everyone else thinks that aswell. Stoke can’t be mentioned in the same breath as Wolves. They’re doing okay at the minute, but Wolves are still under-achieving for where they should be.
Wolves = Pioneers of European football, with a rich and illustrious history. Potential to be one of the top 7/8 clubs in the country again.
Stoke = A club who are doing alright, and whose fans should be very happy with where they’re at right now. They are rightly proud of their club, but will never be as big as Wolves.
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i think everybody who knows anything about football would know wolves are a much bigger club than stoke ,for a start they have never won anything major unlike wolves infact i would say they are pretty similar to the baggies for there football achievments and there status ,average.
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Lawro’s prediction from BBC site, incidently he had us to beat the Vile 2-1, last week.
Stoke v Wolves
Stoke have quality in all the right areas at home and Wolves will have problems dealing with their physicality.
Wolves worked very hard last week (to draw with Aston Villa) but they are just lacking a bit of guile and quality.
Verdict: 2-1
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They will never be bigger than Wolves, Clayheads
in a Lego Stadium,probably the most horrible
fans you could ever come across, went for a drink
in a pub last time up there.Ignored myself and
my Sister who,s over Sixty and carried on serving
Stoke fans. Numpty,s 2-1 Wolves tomorrow.
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Size is not important, ask the wife! Equally size does not mean that you will do well, look at Newcastle, Leeds, Forest, Sheff Utd, Sheff Weds, even Bristol City (although the size of Bristol City could be the invitation for a number of jokes!! lol). I find it a strange phenomenom that people are still hankering for playground arguements, my dad’s bigger than your dad and all that rubbish. Who cares? What matters is the results, and this Saturday and the end of the season will tell. Big club? Little club? All a load of macho bravado usually brought about by insecurity. However, good luck for the season, I hope you stay up and maybe a bigger club than yourselves might go down! (From a southern Potter, who wears his shirt a lot!!)
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who is this stoke you all speak of?
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nooooooo Henry – those were Mcindoes famous last words…
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Stoke are definately bigger than the Baggies.
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Good God,There are some pretty inflated ego’s on here!! Wolves WERE a big club back in the days of Billy Wright but don’t get carried away yet, comments like these tend to come back to bite you. I hope you stay up but at the expense of Hull etc.
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Stoke are obviously bigger than Wolves. Everybody know that.
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Sir Terry Baggie, (2) you need to sort out your grammer kid. That’s what happens when you live outside the wolverhampton border, you just dont get educated well enough…hence supporting a championship team…..
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17.
I’m overwhelmed by your originality. How do you think up such original cutting edge stuff. You should be on Mock the Week. Has anyone else ever told you that you may be a genius?
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Very interesting reading a few of these comments.Wolves do have a decent football history but what I don’t understand is quite a few Wolves fans are certain for a Away win.Has for the stadium no comment.
Stoke last season only lost versus Everton,Chelsea,Man Utd and West Ham that is 4 defeats in 19 Home games.This season they have only lost 2 up to yet against Chelsea and Manchester Utd plus an interesting fact out of the 10 games this season only Liverpool have scored more than 2 goals when they hit 4 past Stoke at the start of the season.
Wolves have only 1 win away out of 5 matches with defeats at Blackburn,Manchester City,Sunderland with a draw at Everton.
My honest prediction –
1 – 1
Fuller ( Stoke ) – Kightly ( Wolves )
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Hello 2/13 Sir Terry. Where’s Biston ? Anywhere near Wet Bromich ? You obviously get so excited about the drivel you try and write you keep pressing the wrong buttons. Try and calm down, the stuff is just not funny…. get a life…. and a dictionary would help.
Swansea boing boing oops!
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HA HA HA…
Wolves are a big club compared to Stoke and ill tell you summat they would have gone down last year if it wasn’t for Delap and his throw…
Up the Wolves…
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Stoke are a league 1 club in the Premiership.
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Are some of you Yam Yams completely ignorant or what? “no doubt we’re a bigger club”, “stoke fans should be very happy with where they are, we should be top 7/8″ Are you forgetting that Stoke are the second oldest team in the football league? Founding members of the football league? Owners of such players as Matthews, Banks, Greenhoff, Hudson, Shilton etc etc. We are not just a small time average club and you havn’t got the god given right to be in the champions league like you seem to think.
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12. Like thousands of other Wolves fans I have no family ties to Wolverhampton. Big clubs just have worldwide support. You wouldnt know this of course as no reason for a non Stokie to support Stoke.
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20 Kingston.
What a brilliant post. We’re not worthy.
23.
You should get together with 17. You could set up a Brains Truss.
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13 – Terry my old son, I would be concerned losing to Palce and Swansea at home and Barnsley away and your vice Captain arguing with your minimal support, robbo last year, kiely the year before. Get behind your little club my tesco friend. Oh and by the way this is the PREMIERSHIP pages, fizzy pop is the league below.
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Sir Trevor Baggie. Can you speak English?
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28, you are spot on, as I said my head tells me we will struggle to get anything out of the game, they have turned that place into a fortress there is no denying it, a win there would be SOME achievement make no mistake, but I would take a draw right now. 20 spot on and as i said the Big club ”debate” (use that term very loosely) is pointless, it doesn’t win matches and that is what is important, Stoke are winning matches and on merit are looking like a very solid mid table Prem team which is a great achievement. At the risk of repeating myself that should be our aim but we must achieve it in our own way, then and only then might our ”Big Club” status be even worth a mention as it might help us kick on into the upper tier of this league. At present though make no bones about it we are in a fight for our PL survival which I believe we will win but its in by no means a sure thing, and Stoke are certainly looking in the oppostie direction in the league to us right now. I’m getting bored of posting ”Do your talking on the pitch boys!!!”
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Wolves are no bigger than Walsall.
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Nice to see Staffordshire Cities doing well compared with the Brummie suburbs. Our history says top six club our results, well…. Stoke will always be mid-Prem and feel they have out-boxed but until Wolves get into that top six they will never be satisfied, that’s the difference.
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whether wolves are a bigger club than stoke or not “tomorrow is when in counts” and not when wolves were truley one of the great football clubs in english history,yes we will once again rise to where we once were but for the meantime we have to live in the now and will have to scrap like it might be our last meal every game and stoke will be no exception…
anyway good luck wolves we will need it…
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It doesn’t really matter who is the ‘bigger’ club. Who has the 3 points on Saturday night is what matters.
Stoke are a good side and will be difficult to beat. We have played ok in the last 2 games and deserved more than the 2 points from the Everton and Vile games.
If we play like we did away at Everton we will get at least a draw. Blake and Kites have a couple more games under their belts, Castillo is back, BCI back on the bench. We are starting to get a decent 11 players on the pitch and we can certainly beat Stoke.
2-1 to the good guys, captain Karl to bag the winner ;-)
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ay it nice to see baggies & stoke fans takin an interest in our forums, bless em!
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As an exile from the Midlands ( also spending 1/4 of the year in Spain) I can quite honestly say I see Wolves shirts everywhere at home and abroad !! To balance this out though – I have seen some Stoke shirts …….In Stoke !! Wolves to win tomorrow ;-) 2-0
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4 and 20.—4 calm down mate he did write this article, probably E&S Spin
20- Great comments mate the result will tell and thats what we Wolves supporter hope for.
Having relatives in your camp I was invited to join the Boothen End but would have to behave… No I join the other 4000 and hope that the judgement we make on Carl will be forgiven or of course ratified.
Come on E and S try being factual and not stirring the pre-game hype,,
We are the WOLVES.. Keep the faith Crazey Dave.
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It’s a standing joke that Wolves think they’re a massive club, don’t bite for heaven’s sake.
Have Stoke ever had a crowd of less than 4,000 for a league game…….?
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Karl is absolutely right this is nothing new. Wolves will always be a bigger club than Stoke he’s just stating a fact so I can’t see this being a gee up for the potters!
It will no doubt be a tough match but then every game is a tough match- WE ARE WOLVES
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u lot make me laugh
no disrespect i hope u do beat stoke just to wipe that smug smile off pulis face
theres no way ur a bigger club than albion
its an official fact
1st aston villa
2nd west bromwich albion
3rd birmingham city
4th wolverhampton wanderers
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Karl. On the pitch Lad,Not in the paper.
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Sir Terry Baggie, Learn How To Spell You Fool.
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38. Statistics and geography are most certainly NOT your best subjects are they? Shame really but you obviously come from Sandwell.
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32) Titfortat. All the players you mention either left for bigger clubs (eg Stan to Blackpool, Banks to Leicester) or were dumped (Greenhoff from Man U).
….and so it goes on, now Olifinyana has left you for Hull City (HULL FGS !!)
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38. Yes Lowest home attendance 2,500 vs Stourbridge (25 February 1911) It might be a long time ago but its still a fact.
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45. Smart A*se
20 September 1913 Mid Rhondda A 2–0 2,500 Pentland, Alf Smith
27 September 1913 Ton Pentre
A 2–1 4,000 Pentland, Tom Revill
4 October 1913 Abertillery H 2–1 4,000 Alf Smith (2), Tom Revill
11 October 1913 Treharris Athletic
A 5–0 3,000 Pentland, Herbert (3), Joe Jones
8 November 1913 Swansea Town
A 3–2 3,000 Herbert (2), Alf Smith
22 November 1913 Aberdare
A 4–2 1,000 Herbert, Alf Smith (3)
6 December 1913 Newport County
A 2–3 3,000 George Turner (pen), Alf Smith
25 December 1913 Caerphilly
A 5–1 3,000 Alf Smith (3), Dick Smith (2)
21 February 1914 Abertillery A 0–1 3,500
21 March 1914 Barry
A 1–1 3,500 Herbert
4 April 1914 Mardy
A 2 1,000 Bob Hamnet (2)
11 April 1914 Mardy
H 4–0 3,000 Dick Smith (2), Watkin, Harry Hargreaves
18 April 1914 Pontypridd A 1–4 2,000 Alf Smith
Hows that for starters, got some figures in the 60′s if you like
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No 7 – do you pay any attention.
Karl Henry was OFFICIALLY voted Man of the Match by the awarding team last week and received his prize at the end of the match.
And YES – he has been our best and most consistent player this season.
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http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/Honours/0,,10310,00.html
http://www.wolves.co.uk/page/History/0,,10307~60471,00.html
Hmmmmmmmmmm which is better? End of.
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wud hav giv karl henry good reception before this article he do nout rong but wat a idiot to wind up stokies and giv motavation to the team GOARN STOKE!!!!
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Both teams are the same,small pitch and long throw.Give me football and a mans size pitch anyday.
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Anyone who thinks Stoke are a league one team or only stayed up cause of Delap’s throws is not paying attention
They are going to crish the Wolves this week
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2 – don’t be so ridiculous. Displaying your lack of knowledge on another team’s forum is just about as low as you can get in my opinion. Quite clearly Henry will be partnering Lampard – not Gerrard.
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Who,s this no brain Stokie, saying we had Bank,s
Greenhoff, Hudson, You may be the second oldest
club, but you have only won one League Cup
in 150 years. Thats impressive, i have not
got the time to list our great Trophy winning
players.
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45. or maybe this one 1,000 vs Burnley (7 December 1895)
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you a big club,you cudent evun sell yur home alicastion agenst us wen we hamerd ya in play offs,aye boing boing down down
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“I’m probably going to get a fairly impartial reception.” Not any more, Karl! I for one was going to clap him tomorrow, but certainly won’t be now. They’re strong words to say the day before such a (locally) big game.
Up The Potters!
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yeah – my heads not up in the clouds and a very well organised Stoke pack will probably take all 3 points.
SEB is nowhere near up to speed, and our best winger Jarvis playing from the bench means we’re not at our attacking best. Perhaps at 1-0 down with 3 mins to go, substitue Looms will blast us an equaliser.
Anyhooo – have a great weekend Wolves fans
COME ON YOU WOLVES !!!
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Karls comments have just turn the notch up at the ground with loudest fans in the Premier league. What might have been a mixed reception will now be a cauldron of hate. Have a happy Halloween Karl remember you have bought it on yourself
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any news of who mccarthy wants for january in transfer window
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OMG, what a bunch of sad Hounds you Wolves boys are.
Big club my backside. Most clubs have had a flash in the pan stage at some time. Lets be honest….The mighty Potters, Baggies, Bluenoses, Wolves …. we’re all pretty much the same. We’re all yo-yo teams that will only ever be able to sniff at the tails of the so called Big 4 (or 5 no with Mn City). It’s where you are TODAY that matters. Not some distant period in the past.
And for the record 4 – 0 to the Mighty Mighty Potters with Tuncay getting his first goal in the Prem’.
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In the days of old this was the real rivals match, the Staffordshire derby! Its gone full circle, Taking into account current league status’, club size and club ambitions the local derby situation is as follows:
Wolves v Stoke
Villa v Blues
Baggies v Walsall
UTW!!
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Suggest that you BIG CLUB?????? BAGGIES read Jay Simpson comments ” I Joined QPR as they are a bigger club with greater potential!!!!!!! WOW EEEE
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Haven’t you Wolves fans got long memorys, looking back to the 50′s to when you were half decent.
I’ve had the misfortune to spend many afternoons at the Custard bowl that you call home due to the fact that my dad supported your lot and i have to admit that once you’d got past the language barrier and i could start to understand some of the self indulgent rubbish that you lot speak i started to enjoy myself, (it was a lot better than the football on show!!!!!) but lets face it you’re now an average championship team, which is an achievement compared to your more recent and more relevent history.
I’m looking forward to the banter tomorrow in the south stand and to an easy 3 points and hope to see you again in a couple of years when you come back up (no doubt spouting the normal “we’re a massive club with massive potential”)
COME ON YOU RIP ROARING POTTERS
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Oh dear …. My clubs bigger than yours debate, some of you Wolves fans should be a little more humble, especially as your recent history is barely better than ours. If you add the factor of the millions of wasted pounds pumped into the club over the past couple of decades , we’ve probably performed better with little or no funds.
As Stoke fans, we know know that our team aren’t world beaters, or boast superiority over rivals. But what I do know, is not many teams visit our Lego stadium and come away with much other than bruised bodies and egos.
I genuinely hope you stay up, Wolves are a decent club with some decent fans (I happen to know a few), but I think bragging rights should be saved for ‘if and when’ you stay up. Good luck after tomorrow and look forward to our visit to the custard bowl :0)
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47. Funniest thing i’ve ever read on ‘ere. Keep on taking the pills you muppet LMFAO… and to top it off you’re Welsh aswell :0)
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Terry is back, obviously bored with the soon to be mid-table status of his beloved baggies! If we are smaller than Port Vale, Albion must be on a par with Stourbridge – oh no, wait, Stourbridge are doing well this season :)
Go for it Karl, great game against the Villa, lets hope you continue the good work!
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53 Statto
Hook, line and sinker. I’m not a Stoke fan, in fact I can’t bare them. I’m just amused by how deluded some of you wulfies are about the size of your club.
Good support in the last 10-15 years, what about the 10-15 years before that? Mid-late 80′s? Wolves are a well supported club with a credible and proud history, but historically (and your statistics will back this up), fan-base wise, no bigger than Derby, Leicester, Forest, the Baggies, Stoke, the list goes on. Fact. Get over it.
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Whats the matter with Stokies – Stafford Rangers are bigger than Stoke. And to the Baggie supporters who comment on here tell me how many times you have won the top League? And get off OUR page.
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7: In answer to your question. The same amount of hatricks as Gerrard and Lampard! Hope that helps with your educated theory.
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wolves bigger than stoke dunna make me laff, wot happend last time you lot were in the prem eh? not lookin to good after we beat you today. come back wif your bigger than us when you stay up and finish above the mighty stoke
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In the recent european club listings where did Boggies come. Well they did not make the top 50. Wolves on the other hand made 17th biggest club in europe. This was judged on previous victories and fanbase size. This was done by a neutral.
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Living in the past is a dangerous thing – in the last 20 years we’ve both managed 1 season in the top flight – shall we count the relegations? Winning cups 60 years ago is all well and good but looking at recent history I believe both sides are of a similar size in terms of fanbase and stadiums!
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Go on Karl la! Talk is cheap though so make sure you show them how good you are on the pitch today. At the moment I would argue that we are about equal in stature as a club with Stoke, but I think the difference is that what Stoke are achieving now is probably the limit of that club’s realistic ambitions, wheras while Wolves would be happy to emulate Stoke and become secure in the Premiership, our longer term ambition is for consolidation first, then expansion of the stadium, then cup success and European football. We have the history and the potential, Stoke do not. They do have passion though. If wolves can match their passion we can achieve greatness and for that reason they can be an example to us.
My gold and black heart believes Wolves will win today. It always does. How about a two nil wolves win with two scrappy set piece goals by Iwelumo and Ebanks Blake from long Halford throws? Lets give them some of their own medicine.
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Can’t believe we have a stoke fan slagging off the west midland accent, have you ever taped yourself & listened back “duck” yeah – it’s hard work
as for everyone else on here – what a stupid argument, there are only a few “Big Clubs” & we all (& SKY of course) know who they are. we are both clubs with potential but not much chance of breaking the top 6 (unlike the boggies who may be top 6 this year – but not promoted)
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To add to No 45s Woes
Lowest home attendance 1914 , 3000 vs Swansea Town (17 September 1914)
WIKI !!!!
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68.
Or Michael McIndoe, ‘I’m off to Bristol City, they’re a bigger club than the Wolves.’
It’s what players say when they go to another club and need to justify it.
On the other hand, QPR have a lot more money than us and Wolves put together. Does that make them a bigger club.
You were voted as the worse fans, does that mean you are the worse fans?
Silly and pointless arguments. Try to grow up and rise above them.
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All this talk about who has a bigger one… who cares? I used to quite like Jimmy Greenhoff, Mike Pejic and Banksy. And if any of us think that this will be an easy game for us, I’d like to have some of what you’re smoking too. I’d take a draw right now. Up The Wolves!
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Ha ha was this compiled by a Wolves fan? You’re struggling to be the 17th biggest club in England never mind Europe.
It certainly can’t have been based on longest time in the top flight, number of FA Cups, highest record attendances, and head-to-head records, else you’d be some way behind poor little Sandwell Town my friend!!
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What a thing 2 say before the game. And I really do fancy Stoke for this one. So he will probably be eating his words.
Truth is, wolves probably are the bigger club history, support wise etc etc than stoke. But that winning mentality he says has now been instilled has also come with the typical:
“Wolves are such a big club because of a few cups we won 50 years ago” mentality that runs throughout the whole club itself.
Its an arrogance thats obviously not only with boardroom, staff and fans but also transfers to the players as well. Which club is bigger means nothing these days its money, and premiership establishment means everything something Stoke have over Wolves at the moment and come full time… my bet is they will hold 3 points over them as well.
Why say something like that a day before the game??
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oh dear oh dear, even craddock scored, lol
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WE are a bigger club than Stoke SHOneTee no question!!!
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