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Can Sol follow in illustrious footsteps?
Wednesday 14th October 2009, 8:00AM BST.
Sporting Star’s Albion correspondent Neil Whitehouse on his favourite Hawthorns ‘old pros’.
Whilst we wait for the latest lull in domestic action to pass, most of the news to emerge from clubs in the top two divisions is the hope that players return from international duty unscathed and ready for a swift return to first team duty.
The Baggies are no different, of course, but we have had the added bonus of reports that Ishmael Miller is ready to step up his training schedule as he battles back from his long-term injury.
He really will be a huge addition to the squad when he is fit and his pace and power should prove even more useful now that we get the ball forward more quickly.
But the most intriguing news to surface during this last week is our tentative enquiry about the availability of Sol Campbell.
I wonder how serious we are about trying to bring him in. It would appear his swift departure from Notts County has resulted in a complicated situation about whether he can play for anyone prior to January.
His agent seems to think it can be resolved to allow an earlier resumption to Sol’s playing career but there is likely to be quite a number of clubs clambering for his signature and you wouldn’t think we would be able to compete in terms of the salary he is still looking to command.
From a footballing sense, I think he would be a good acquisition because players of his experience don’t seem to become available as often as they used to but there are bound to be more attractive placed clubs at home and abroad ahead of us in the queue.
The potential signing of a ‘good old pro’ got me thinking of some of the other players the Albion have signed in the twilight of their careers and there are a few that immediately spring to mind both good and not so good.
Top of the pile for me in terms of star quality would have to be Johnny Giles – although he will always be best remembered for resurrecting our fortunes in the mid seventies to set the foundations for some of our best post war years, it might get forgotten that he played 75 times for us and was still a great player when we got back into the top flight.
Following along in a close second would be Super Kevin Phillips for his mostly superb 38 goals in 71 appearances to cement himself as a great amongst the Championship winning squad.
Others of a lesser degree who I enjoyed watching in Albion colours were Andy Gray and Arthur Albiston who provided some brighter moments during the dark days of the late eighties and showed why they both had such illustrious careers.
At the other end of the scale, there are a few players that I can recall that stepped down from the top flight to join us and didn’t exactly do themselves justice. First up for me would be Geoff Hurst who joined us in 75-76 but only lasted 10 games before packing up.
I remember being pleased when Graham Roberts joined us in 1990 but unfortunately, despite playing 39 times he will always stand out as the senior player in the side defeated by Woking and then relegated to the old third division.
Others who probably wished they had retired before joining us would be Mike Phelan and Andy Townsend who both had admirable careers but never got going with us.
I am sure there are many others that Baggies fans will be able to recall that show that signing experienced players can have mixed blessings.
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IMHO Johny Giles was responsible for the developement of Bryan Robson into one of the best midfielders of his age both his craft and his fearless tackling
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I’m pretty certain Campbell would fall into the Townsend/Phelan category. Experience is a good thing, but the player must have the right attitude and everything suggests that Sol hasn’t.
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Johnny Giles was an exception,naturally gifted and hard working,he was a class above the rest of midfielders in the 70′s.Kevin Phillips is a natural scorer with a sharp brain in front of goal.Unfortunately,most average top flight players find that when they start to go downhill,they struggle wherever they go.Sometimes past reputation is not enough.
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Hail,Johnny Giles.My alltime favourite.What a great player,and manager as it turned out.I think we all wondered how we managed to get him at the time,”Player manager”.Would it work now? player manager,don’t know,but it did at the time and i for one am glad to have been around to see it.When he came back for a second term it didn’t work out for him,that was a shame.
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This would be the fearless tackling of Johnny Giles who said, “I always got my retaliation in first” I suppose. His football philosophy was brilliant too, keep it simple and accurate. We moved from 2nd Division to 1st seamlessly and it was a delight to watch.
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I do remember Graham Roberts scoring an absolute cracker though, i think it was against Swansea, not sure though.
Super Kev is the one that stands out in recent years.
Not old enough re Johnny Giles.
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Ahhh Andy Gray, his probabaly the only one I can say I’ve witnessed play so sorry you aging lot :-P
But who can forget to mention the great John Hartson…
*ahem*
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I remember Tony Grealish and Jimmy Nicholl coming in in the 80s. Shocking both of them. We got relegated that season. Also Garth Crooks had charisma and could finish but was well past his best when he came. But Uwe Rossler was probably the worst forward I saw at the Hawthorns – still I give my mate grief about the goal he scored against Forest. I think his only one in a baggies shirt.
I remember Paul Merson coming to the Hawthorns when he played for Boro in the twilight of his career and he was absolutely brilliant that day. Totally ran the show.
Super Kev seemed like a big risk when we bought him and Villa fans will remember little of him but he had the ability to turn a game on his own and did so many times for us. His goals were invaluable to us under Mowbray.
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hows bout kevin campbell / ruel fox…….?
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Just a re-cap on Johnny Giles,Leeds were THE best team in the country late 60′s-early 70′s,and he made the side tick from the middle of the pitch.If he had been born in a top football nation,Brazil,Germany,even here instead of Ireland,he would have been a world superstar.I do still wonder how we got him,but am glad we did.
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I remember being part of the crowd on Giles’ last day as manager. I don’t think any home fans left after the game and we stamped and called and shouted and gave him a standing ovation when he came back out onto the pitch.
A bit off thread, but does anyone else thnk that football has changed, in my opinion for the worse, and that we seem to have few teams with good wingers. My favourites… our Willie, Kiswyickie (I know it’s spelt wrong) Statham…
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Luther Miss-it and Andy Tonwsend are just two examples as why this option should be looked at very carefully… and for every John giles there is a John hartson (best wishes big man).
I also remember paul Merson coming to the hawthorns with Walsall – 2 great goals and ran the show…well I say “ran” – walked more like.
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That was at Walsall not the Hawthorns. Lovely sunshine awful football, by us anyway, Walsall actually still sell the dvd in their club shop.
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Paddy Mulligan is one that stands out for me. When he came I thought it was a joke. He was so slow he looked as though he was wearing wellington boots but very few wingers gave him the runaround. Good old professional. Also back in the sixties we had Ray Crawford from a very good Ipswich team, he had the misfortune to be up against the King and Johnny Kaye for a place. At the other end of the scale was Danny Hegan, who spent a lot of time being tired and emotional.
I think a lot of people are unfairly writing Sol Campbell off, while knowing very little of his current mind set. He has been an excellent professional for about 17 years. Having said that, I agree that the media circus that would follow him could disrupt the club.
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Let’s not forget Simon Garner in this, he was replaced at the end of the 92-93 season in the side by Andy Hunt, but for a while was the perfect foil for SuperBob with boundless energy.
Johnny Giles of course, Kevin Phillips. Another more ecent one was Wayne Fereday in 92-93 season, the ex-QPR winger who played as a very attacking fullback under Ossie – also played a big part in setting up Darren Bradleys rocket against Wolves the following season.
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Just the mention of Bradley’s rocket against the Wolves has brought back happy memories. Hope we get the change to play the dingles soon.
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