Walsall Blog – The Biggest Own Goal?

Friday 25th September 2009, 7:00AM BST.

Roy WhalleyWalsall blogger Mark Jones weighs up Roy Whalley’s statement last week and has a few questions of his own for the chief executive.

Question – what’s the biggest own goal you’ve ever seen whilst supporting the mighty Saddlers?

Charlie Ntamark’s beautifully controlled and caressed, two-footed placement against and for West Ham in 1994? Gavin Ward’s Hennessey-esque juggling act in the play-off Semi against Clayhead City in 2001?

Or the footballing-karma – as opposed to football in Caldmore – that was Tony ‘Legbreaker’ Rougier stumbling into Dean Keates’s shot in that vital minute at the Millennium Stadium in the final weeks later.

Answer – none of the above. That particular award has to go to Mr K R Whalley for his ignorant and ill-timed Friday dinnertime rant about our and his own team’s support.

Just when we needed it least, along comes another sermon from our chief executive. Because, of course, no-one else had realised that crowds were dropping alarmingly, that the atmosphere inside the ground is often dire and that this situation will have a negative effect, not just when the team are playing at home, but on future funding. Thanks for that Mr Whalley.

None of us are possibly smart enough to work out that with the economic downturn, other revenue streams will be down and this will have an impact on the club’s finances, are we? Especially with all that rent money to find.

Here was me thinking that what was required was some thinking outside the box, that those responsible for getting people back into the ground would be breaking their necks to find out why fans are so disillusioned.

What positive, innovative and radical, far-reaching ideas could be implemented? What dialogue could be initiated?

Well none actually. Why do any of that when you can just moan at people? I mean that’s a tried and tested method isn’t it Roy? Proven to work that one, don’t you think?

Of course the problem couldn’t possibly be the massive letdowns we’ve had over the years. The murky situation that no-one ever seemed to get to the bottom of two decades ago when we moved from Fellows Park.

The failure to build a team around Martin O’Connor in the mid-1990’s. The missed opportunities and bad decision-making that followed Ray Graydon’s sacking in 2002. Or the ill thought out, season-ending decision to sell Scott Dann as we pushed for the play-off’s 18 months ago, just to mention a few.

Some might say all of this has been a bit of a gamble with the club’s future. But no, none of this has had any bearing, it’s all the fans fault obviously.

If only supporters had pointed out some of their worries before. If only there had been fanzines, organised campaigns, the odd protest, an independent supporters group, a supporters trust, message boards, investigative journalists, letters in the press, radio phone-ins, supporters liaison committee forums, letters and e-mails to Dan Mole, blogs and balloons.

Who knows what might have happened if only you’d have had someone to listen to or work in partnership with?

Many fans would probably have been surprised to hear the revelation that the club actually has a transfer budget at all, let alone one that might have to be reduced. Did that work the other way round, like when the supporters stuck by the team after relegation to the basement in 2006. Did we spend more then?

The town of Walsall has had a football club since 1875, so maybe all us residents need is something to believe in again. Something other than meaningless platitudes about transforming the club and empty promises about exciting times ahead.

Apparently the chairman will sell the club but there have been ‘no offers.’ Maybe some people might need to try a bit harder to find a buyer, and that’s something that’s definitely not up to us.

After 23 long years in the job, you’d think Roy would’ve realised that insulting people’s intelligence time and again gets you absolutely nowhere.

Despite what they’ve kept telling us about the commercial side of the club for years, it turns out the ‘well-run club’ did need us all along.


  1. 1
    Walt Jabsco

    Spot on Mark

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  2. 2
    Mike

    In a nutshell, the best review for some time. What did happen to the finances when we moved from Fellows Park (if I remember we would have a new ground and spare funds) This article consolidates just how distant RW & JB are now from supporters. I cannot see any light at the end of the tunnel, and why is the club not for sale through the normal channels? or is it JB knows nobody will buy while they have to pay him rent which will no doubt go through the roof once he has gone

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    GandalfP

    Echoed by many Mark, but do they read it (its not joined up) and if so do they take any notice? Sorry the answer seems to be NO. There must be other ways round it but I hear the moans in the 500 lounge when ROY gets up to priase the sponsors or birthdays and he even gets those wrong. Where is the lobby to get the ex-Birmingham people on board when they have consolidated their takeover as they certainly can be any worse.Come on team, lets have some goal to shout about and show the board that we all really mean business from spectator to players.

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    Belgian Saddler

    Good blog Mark. I fear that the damage that was done all of those years ago when the club carelessly misplaced the freehold is irreversable. It is difficult to see a situation whereby the freehold and club will be reunited despite this being in the hands of “our biggest fan”.

    The club has treated supporters with contempt for years and last weeks outburst by RW was just the latest example. Those that run the club have become so far removed from reality (where have I heard that before?) it is incredible. These people are unwilling to engage with supporters in any meaningful way or accept any questions or views that do not correspond to their own.

    They are also completely incapable of coming up with anything innovative in terms of getting fans back. Although they do seem to be pretty good at chucking pensioners out of the ground for waving their arms about. Their only response is to blame supporters for everything and to trot out the same tiresome and patronising old lines about “well run club”, “club transformed” etc. etc.

    So they have transformed us from a midtable 3rd division club with rubbish attendances who owned our own ground to a midtable 3rd division club with rubbish attendances, massive debts and a grand a day in rent bills. Great, I really don’t know how we can ever thanks Jeff and Roy enough.

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    Dave Dippy Beesley

    What we need is another Save our Saddlers campaign. I probably qualify for one of those free turkeys now!

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    tinned

    Yeah, good ol’ Jeff & Roy transformed us from a club that owned it’s own ground to one that doesn’t and now struggles to find the rent payment. Cracking result that one!

    Come on E&S, In plead with you to put some sensible but searching questions back at our Commercial Director. You’d gain a lot of goodwill and an increase in Walsall fans estimations if you challenged (instead of just reported on) the rubbish spouted by Mr Whalley.

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    Pete

    To be fair tinned (number6) how do you know that thye haven’t tried. Do you think that these things weren’t just part of a released statement. There may be a picture of Roy talking but don’t presume it was taken on the day of this statement.

    The only ones who have the capabiolity to get him in and cornered and reportable is WM, but they don’t have the knowledge or the brain to do it properly.

    Cracking piece though Jonah.

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    Phil Burton

    Absolutely spot on, as usual.

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    Mugwump

    Your already playing above your level in league one as it is. You walsall supporters should be thankful you even have a club to follow. Time for a reality check, you just dont have the money, support or team to be anything but a lower league yo-yo club. Your best hope is for the league to change the rules and let you become a feeder club.

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    alan

    What’s it got to do with you Mugwump? I assume you are a Wolves fan – whose crowds have of course never dipped below 4,000 in your history have they?? Oh hang on a minute, it wasn’t that long ago that the ‘loyal’ Wolves fans deserted the club in their tens of thousands was it??? Don’t talk to us about loyalty or expectations…

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    Phil Burton

    9 Mugwump;

    Roy, please use your real name, dont hide behind an alias.

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    Mugwump

    I didnt say a thing about loyalty. You walsall fans are always so quick to slate wolves, and yes our crowds did drop, but if you knew anything about what went on at Wolves at the time you would obviously realise why they dropped, plus that was about 24 years ago, not recently at all. The jealousy, and yes its jealousy that walsall fans have about wolves is just because you have no real rivals and dont have any history in the game like wolves, villa or albion. Wolves fans dont care about walsall. Like i said, face the facts, your playing above your level as it is.

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