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McInnes ‘not ready’ for Albion job
Thursday 25th June 2009, 10:59AM BST.
St Johnstone chairman Geoff Brown claims Derek McInnes is not ready to be Albion’s new boss – and will not be offered the job.
The former Baggies skipper has been strongly linked with the vacant manager’s post at the Championship club, with fans and bookmakers establishing McInnes among the favourites alongside Peterborough’s Darren Ferguson.
Brown’s comments come as Albion head into the crucial days of the club’s hunt for Tony Mowbray’s successor.
Chairman Jeremy Peace has all but completed his research into the leading candidates and is ready to open formal communications, with a view to interviews over the weekend and an appointment by the time the players return for pre-season training in the middle of next week.
So far St Johnstone have received no approach for their manager, who has completed his first full season by winning promotion into the SPL.
Brown remains adamant McInnes would be better off staying put at McDiarmid Park.
The chairman said: “There have no approaches from West Brom and I don’t believe there will be.
“I think that job would be too early for Derek, because he has only been here since a year past in November.
“He has done very well for St Johnstone, but I don’t think he has been tested to the limits yet.
“The board at West Brom will want automatic promotion from the Championship next season and that is some test.
“I don’t believe it is the right time for Derek to move.”
Peace will not restrict his search to one preferred target, but interview as many as four candidates before making a decision.
But he is determined to keep to a media black- out, having felt both Bryan Robson and Mowbray arrived in the job handicapped by “second choice” labels, as news of talks with other contenders leaked out.
One of them was former Wolves boss Dave Jones, now at Cardiff, who has again been discussed by Peace and has hinted at an uncertain future.
Preston’s Alan Irvine is also in Peace’s thoughts as well as Ferguson, but both candidates would require heavier compensation packages than the popular McInnes.
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I would guess Peter Ridsdale statement this morning would echo my interview with the E&S prior to the end of last season.
Jeremy is and always has been very interested in taking Dave Jones to The Hawthrons and an official approach is on the horizon according to several media outlets.
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While all this speculation keeps us interested and gives the press something to write about at a quiet time while most players and managers are on a beach somewhere that is all it can be, speculation. What are the criteria?
Experience, been there got the T shirt. Curbs Coppell.
Heart ruling the head: Ossie, Superbob.
No compo: Ince, Hoofroyd.
Young and keen: Baby Fergie.
Club connections/allegiance: Dekka
Fans choice: There must have been 20 names mentioned, including Irvine, Mclaren, Jol Jones.
We will just have to wait and see. The best man for the job. Whoever it is we must get behind him and the players.
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I think some one with real premiership type credentials are needed.
Why is JP not looking at getting mclaren back to england.
He should be able to attract the type of players needed and at least has premiership and international experience.
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I hate to say it becuase Mciness is my fav of the bunch but this Brown geezer is right. Mciness is one for the future and when the time is right for him to become albion boss then everyone including Mciness himslef will know its the right time. As for Dave Jones i wouldn’t want him anyway, i still reckon we will end up with Irvine and finish playoff positions then the blame will go straight to Peace. But when you think about it what manager would get us automatic? I just cant see it. Mowbray would have had the best chance but its all in the past now.
Lets hope whoever we get ( please god not paul ince) we stick by them and boing back via another trip 2 wembley :)
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If we do need to pay compensation to a club, surely that’s the better option IF the best person for the job is available via that route??
I agree that DM is being linked with the job at the Shrine a bit too soon, and personally would still prefer to see Fergie Jnr at the helm above anyone else, but there are so many good candidates I think a lot of us will be surprised when the new boss is announced.
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Personally, I don’t care who the manager is as long as he continues the style of play that has been missing from Albion for so long. We now play attractive football and as long as we can apply the killer punch in front of goal and not get too silly protecting our own net then we should be okay.
Okay, I would prefer someone who wouldn’t use the team as a shop window to advertise how good he is with the hope of a bigger club will come calling and I would like a manager who is hungry for success and willing to learn from his mistakes.
I know that Peace wants us to succeed and doesn’t want us to get into debt. I have had many conversations with my brother over this and both of us agree that we want the club to get back into the premiership and stay there. I therefore have to trust our chairman and I hope that whoever he picks will share the same dreams and asperations of both the chairman and, more importantly in my opinion, those of the fans.
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Baggiefloyd please be a bit more upbeat. Even the bookies have us second favourite to go up.
I would go for a man nobody seems to be mentioning – Chris Coleman. Did a great job at Fulham and is turning the Sky Blues around.
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Just looking at the transfer news on the main page, why would the E&S think we’d be interested that our previous manager is looking to take an ex player to Celtic, Can’t they just put “all quiet at the Hawthorns” ??
I still look at all the names banded about regarding the ‘New’ manager and to be quite honest not one of them jumps out at me and gets me revved up. It must be a very difficult position for the club to be in as anything less than promotion or even play off’s will be considered as failure. Even before Mowbray joined us I quite liked the look of Coyle but that wont happen now but Irvine may have the desire to succeed and I think he’s done a fair job at Preston with limited resources,he had a good tutor with Moyes. I think Fergie & McInnes may be a little green at present but a definite ‘No No’ to Ince & Jones etc. The next week will be very interesting to say the least.
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JP gets alot of abiue from fans behind the scenes, but you must admit he has a sound business brain – he doesnt get into debt, and gets the best value from player sales and compensation from leaving managers!.
I have faith in whoever he picks they will be the right man for the job – I still want to see attarcative football as mowbry installed, but with that ability to land the sucker punch.
My preference would be for Fergie Jr, Coleman, or Coppell- Def not Maclaren, but whoever he picks ill be there cheering us on!
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now im propably going to get slated for this
but the candidates being banded about aint for me
ince no chance, fergie jnr no experience at top level,mcinnes same reason as fergie.
none of these fit the bill
my first choice would still be choice
but if not then im leaning towards steve mclaren
now i know most will say not a chance but FORGET england and look at club level he got boro to uefa cup final and done a great job there like hes doing now in holland at fc twente.
hes got a good record in leagues and might just be what we are looking for.
PLEASE REPLY i know you will anyway
whoever gets it has got a massive job getting us back up
i just fell it has to be someone with experience
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10) Whether or not McLaren would be a good appointment or not (personally i don’t believe he would be) its a pointless discussion because he’d never come. He’s managing a club competing at the top of the Eredivisie, has european football too look forward to next season and is building a decent team there. It’s the same case with people campaigning for Jol. We might as well be disucssing whether or not Wenger would be a good appointment.
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BaggieBoyNick
Gotta be honest, I don’t think Choice has got enough experience at Championship level
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11-hes been quoted in saying he wants to return to english football so why not
jp normally springs a shock when ot comes to manager tm etc.
would have mclaren over ince and boothroyd any day
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lets face facts, most albion fans would be up in arms if we was looking to replace mowbray with the manager of “st johnstone” . its only because dekka was a fans favourite ON the pitch. this doesnt mean he will be an instant success
football “home-comings” usually end in tears
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I think McLaren would do a good job, but I don’t think he’d leave where he is just yet, if he stated he’d like to come though, I’d gladly have him at the Shrine as he’s a good club manager, but was always onto a loser with the England job.
12 – I think it’d be quality if our new boss was called Mr Chance. Imagine the headlines
West Brom give Peace a Chance!!
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Dave Jones rumours are all over the place at the minute……..there’s no smoke without fire is there?
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Am I missing something…is that ‘Hobsons Choice’ ~ ‘Robsons Choice’or ‘No Choice’??
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Coley, the ones who abuse JP are probably the same few who abused TM until he left. Most people realise he is superb at doing what he does best, selling at inflated prices the stuff we don’t want, keeping the business viable and solvent, not accepting second best. Picking the next manager is going to make him a hero or a villain. One Hell of a responsibilty. There are those who want a man installed yesterday. I wouldn’t. If I couldn’t get EXACTLY the man I was looking for, then for a few weeks I’d let Appleton run the show. He ticks as many boxes as some of the young blokes we see in the candidates.
I see Meite is reported as ‘wanting to stay in the Prem’. Hull are said to be interested.
He’d better take his crutches with him, their bloke will make him play with or without them!
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8 Nottm Baggie. Spot on with your first paragraph.
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Who ever we get as manager i will be behind the team but what about sven i know he ballsed up Mexico but did wonders at man city or Lawrie Sanchez or even Gordan strachen he has family & house in the mids i think.
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ned at last someone with a bit of savvy
its true about jones wlesh press are running a few stories about it so there must be some truth in it.
hes done a decent job at cardiff to be fair
got the dingles up then didnt get backed and got sacked for it which i thought was a strange decision ?
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As I said about 3 hours ago, there ain`t much going on. I`ve just been on the Doyle to Bolton report and all the dingles are moaning that it is just a revamp of yesterdays news.
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For all the talk, only JP will have the say on who is new boss. I cant see any further than Mclaren though i think he will require a large pay packet.
All the talk of automatic promotion is pure arrogance, there is no right to it as so many other teams will tell.
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Cyril
RE: Meite
Some of these players over inflated vision of thier own abillities does makes one laugh.
The reality is, that the player in question has been an abject failure at our club.
And personally, if and it`s a big IF a premier league team court his services, i will happily drive him there.
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you’ve just got to laff.My sides are splitting. Hoddle and Waddle best bet for you boys………
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As I have said before, Derek McInnes, as yet, does not have sufficient experience to do a good job at the Albion. However, Dave Jones, if he can be persuaded to leave Cardiff, Alan Irvine or Paul Simpson could all be possibilies.
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Any of you lot want a season ticket going cheap to watch us lot down the road get turned over most matches next season? You’ve got it good compared to the joke set up at Wolves!
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21 – He did a penomenal job a Stockport, a great job at Southampton and far too good a job at the Wolves.
He’s also done a good job for Cardiff on quite a tight budget.
Would he be welcomed at the Shrine by the fans though?
Also, would he want to come seeing as he’s had so much stick from us in the past?
I’d still much rather go for Fergie myself though.
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Cyril, i really do hope your not getting my hopes up by inventing that Meitie story! – in all honesty who’d be stupid enough to “snap” him up!!
Well, i’ve posted several times on here in recent weeks that Dave Jones would be the best choice (just look at his consistant record at several clubs at all levels)IMO. So i wont bother to add any further comment on other candidates, just to say this.
Whoever gets the nod from JP, i just hope he is deemed (by the board at least)to be the best man for the job, and not as i fear, appointed because there was no compo to pay out. Meaning, in effect, that the £2M+ compo we got from Celtic was a nice little Brucie bonus for the clubs coffers! If we need to spend the entire £2M+ on getting the RIGHT man in, then so be it!
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the Vital West Bromwich Albion site are saying Irvine has been appointed. (1720hrs)
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30- YES Alan Irvine has apparently said he wants the job and been agreed..
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Dave Jones it is then!
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fox is correct , irvine to be unveiled tommorrow, better than ince, or jones, dont want dingles!!!he doesnt seem a bad bloke to appoint, was moyes number 2, and ran newcastle acadamey (before they went pants, justa poin gettin 2 mill for tm was good buissness, the bloke couldnt beat stoke, newcastle who won six games and 2 of them against us!!!!, derby at wembley, had no defence, didnt buy a striker, lightweight midfield, no plan b, but some fans get riled when u slate tm, but the man had no loyalty to the albion, so bring on irvine, he does seem to have a clue and experience
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what ever happens we got to stick together and get behind the new manager. JP needs to get this one spot on
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My choice is still Darren Ferguson, he’s done a phenomenal job at Peterborough and will have good contacts. Although, there’s a risk he will use us as a shop window, he can still do a job for us and would be a great appointment in my opinion. Derek McInnes is too raw and the pressure on him would be too great.
As for the other candidates, possibly Gary Johnson but definitely not Paul Ince or Aidy Boothroyd.
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I’ve heard from a mate who works up in Preston (their office is actually at Deepdale) that it’s true about Irvine and he’s gutted.
Should be announced today / tomorrow.
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Your sides are splitting ?
I have lost bladder control at your showers pathetic efforts to sign new players, gazumped with Dann, and probably Doyle, you DO sign a bloke that has a suspended jail sentance hanging over him and may not get a work permit.
However even funnier than these “bambi on ice” esque efforts is the bitter duplicity when Dann went to Blues, Doyle, and Johnson`s possible un-arrival.
Dann, you all said, fantastic signing future England player, goes to Blues, low and behold all of a sudden he is average and not as good as you already have.
I seen similar comments about Doyle and Johnson, keep it up, i love laughing at you lot.
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HI folks im home from my hols,have wolves signed anybody since i bin away,aye boing boing hi de hi
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Bookies stopped taking bets on Irvine being the new manager at the Shrine.
Looks like he’s our man and he gets my backing if it is the case…….remember I said it would be Irvine on the day that TM left!!
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alan irvine stayed at the hilton hotel bromsgrove last nite,i know its true cuz my mate worcester told me,aye boing boing good choice
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No.29. No mate, I didn’t make it up. I am pretty sure it was in the Daily Mail that Hull wanted him. The sad bit is the bloke has some ability but he also has a ‘weekly sick note’. One good reason why JP has to get his own back on Meggo if we sell them Robbo. On a sour note, I use http://www.westbrom.com a lot and it’s a good site. However, twice in the last two weeks my Avast antivirus has picked up TWO different Trojan Horses. Now these could just be Malware from adverts, but they could also be too easily spread to everyone. Beware!
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38 Sir Terry.
Glad to be of help. Apparently our esteemed neighbours have signed a midfield player from Khazakstan called Normana Stanleyfletchovic and a keeper called Bert Trautmann.
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a lot of preston forums say its a done deal with alan irvine being the new west brom boss,,they call him moyes mk11 ..hes got a very good cv..if irvine the new boss we must all get behind him and give him our full backing,,,we will just have to wait and see but the rumours are big in preston…..GOING BACK UP,,IN STYLE OF COURSE,,OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH YES……………P.S NICE TO SEE THE DINGS STRUGGLING TO SIGN ANY QUALITY…THEY GONNA DO A DERBY FOR SURE..
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terry you naughty boy ,,i bet ya big banana its irvine,,,lump it on..oh sorry ya cant bookies stop taking bets..good job i lumped on monday at 16/1..lovely jubbly…ibiza here i come..OOOOOOOOOOH YES.
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Welcome back Sir Terence. I looked after your harem while you were away. I told the girls my name is Enoch, not Eunuch like you said. Did you get to Prestatyn? Or this in?
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Preston finally come out with a ‘hands off’ statement…..but it also blatantly says that if we meet their valuation we can have him!!
I think that’s just to appease their fans to say that they tried to keep him, but he’s off the same as we did with TM.
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45 Oo er Cyril or should I say Donald McGill.
On Alan Irvine. He could be a great choice. Nothing is a nailed on certainty with managers but he has experience in both the prem and CCC and he always seems very level headed on interview. I’ve heard it said that Preston played long ball football but that may well have something to do with making the best of the materials you have.
I would have been happy with DM, Fergie, Johnson or Curbishley but I must admit I’m warming to the thought of Alan Irvine if it is to be him. His name even fits the song. ‘There’s only one Alan Irvine etc etc.’
New stylecard arrived yesterday. Can’t wait for August.
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47 – Don’t you find it strange that after making such a fuss over the fact that we’ve replaced the seats in the Smethwick and the Brummie that they send us stylecards with the scarf seats in the Brummie Road clearly visible?
It’s not the most important thing in the world, but it just seemed odd to me.
Just like 2 / 3 seasons ago when we changed the club crest, then our season tickets were sent out to us with the old crest on them???
Anyway, glad that’s off my chest.
P.s. Welcome back Tez, it’s been much quieter without you on here
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