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Wednesday 17th June 2009, 10:01AM BST.
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Tony Mowbray bid goodbye to Albion to take over as manager of Celtic by insisting his conscience was clear over turning his back on the club.
The former Baggies boss blamed “strained relations” behind the scenes at the Hawthorns for his departure, as he was unveiled at Parkhead.
Although he did not refer specifically to anyone by name, his comments will be interpreted by Albion fans as a thinly-veiled attack on chairman Jeremy Peace.
Mowbray has now been paraded as the Bhoys’ new boss and is adamant he has no regrets over walking out of the Hawthorns just a month after telling his players they “owed” the club another season after relegation.
He said: “Without getting too deeply into it, relationships are very important in the hierarchy of football clubs and there were one or two problems at Albion as the season went on.
“I’ve got to enjoy going into work every day. What keeps me getting up and driving into work is enjoying the environment I work in and that had become a little bit strained.
“This opportunity is something I have taken on with a very clear conscience.
“My words in the West Midlands were designed for the players and making sure we all stayed together for the new division.
“I don’t think that rings true for me. The players’ relationship with their manager was very strong, but other relationships at the club weren’t as strong and ultimately I felt the time was right to move on.”
Mowbray officially departed Albion last night with the Old Firm giants announcing him as their new boss, three weeks after the departure of Gordon Strachan.
But his exit has upset some fans, who have questioned his loyalty after he walked away just weeks after demanding his players honour their contracts next season.
The former manager added: “I think loyalty was a very important factor for the players I signed. But when you talk about the management of a football club it comes down to relationships.
“I talked about the players showing loyalty because I didn’t feel they had a reason to ‘up and out,’ because there was a very strong bond that the coaching staff and players had.”
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Remember this statement Mr Mowbray
“”The bottom line is it isn’t just the manager who has taken the team down, it isn’t just the players who have taken the team down. If we go down, we are all hopefully going to gain from the experience.”
He added: “It is a lot more complicated in that modern day footballers are all governed by their advisors as well and what they think is best for them, and what becomes paramount is your relationship with the players really.
“My discussion point with most of them would be if there are players I want to keep, and we get bids for them, they owe the football club, they owe the fans and their team-mates another crack at it.
“Let’s all try to get back to the Premier League because if we do that, I think we will be so much better for it.
“We will have had the experience of this season and that is a pretty strong, powerful message. They should have a responsibility to feel that.
“I don’t want to ram that home. It comes from within. You have either got that or you haven’t. You’ve got to look deep into these players and see what drives and motivates them.””
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Celtic side- erm they dont want him
albion side im soooo glad his gone
bye bye judas:D
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i can assure you jp he hasent left with most the fans best wishes,and i hope his stay isent successful,i wonder if celtic fans will be as forgiving as us,aye boing boing good riddunce
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ok lets hear the last of him now and get fergie in asap aye boing boing fergie
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Good riddance JUDAS
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Aberdeen away in his 1st match……now that’s what dreams are made of!!
You’ve obviously made the right decision Tony!!
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I must admit to being a little disappointed by TM’s lack of acknowledgment of our supporters.
I can understand his silence over the last 2 weeks to some degree, so as not to burn his bridges, and I know he’s not the sycophantic type, but still…….he received an untold amount of support, loyalty and warmth from our supporters during his whole stay, not just the last 2 months and not even so much as an explanation, an express of best wishes or a mention of any sort since his departure. Perhaps I’m being naive by hoping for one.
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Goodbye Judas, hope you never stepfoot in our ground again. strong words i admit but i dont like traitors or liars. fully commited he said first offer that comes up and his gone like a shot, well goodbye. derek mcinnes and darren moore please.
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Well good luck Tony, I hope Celtic fans are ready to ship a few goals this year, maybe we can sign a couple of defenders off them seen as Mowbray doesn’t like playing decent ones. Curbs or Ferguson have to be first choice. If not Coppell or Gary Johnson wouldn’t be bad appointments. If we end up with Shearer we won’t go up, Dave Jones and we’ll go up but we’ll come back yet again – only Curbishley can stop the perpetual sequence we’re in by playing balanced football and over achieving. We need to defend this time as well as attack and Curbs has that balanced style not to mention a raft of contacts and experience.
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tony, we knew you couldn’t turn down celtic – so thanks for some of the best football i have seen up the hawthorns in years and good luck!
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I listened VERY carefully to his statement at his Celtic inauguration. Did I detect in there that he was ‘considering his future’ BEFORE the Celtic post came up? If so, what were the reasons behind that in view of the colossal support from the fans? Still not one word to us either. My own view is that he was ‘tapped up’ several weeks before and the show of support therefore was an embarrassment to him in the final analysis. He has signed a ONE YEAR ROLLING CONTRACT. I personally don’t feel that’s much of a vote of confidence. Deliver or go seems to be the message there. The truth will no doubt leak out eventually.
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they are NOT real albion fans in that video!!!
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betrayed big time by mowbray
all this rubbish about getting straight back up
what a load of rubbish that was
i hope rangers win everything next season
and we go back up
good riddance judas
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Good riddance!!!! He obviously couldn’t wait to get away
It must be a real challenge to him to know that he will finish at least 2nd in the SPL, and that (unless they draw Rangers) that he will be in a couple of cup finals. I cant see him doing anything in Europe
I’ll give him 18 months. Christmas 2010 and he’ll be on the dole
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Whoever is calling him Judas needs to take their albion blinkers off.
He has the opportunity to manage a club who he was captain of and where he is loved by the supporters.
Put yourself in his shoes for just one minute, instead of coming out with the usual “albion bias” rubbish that 99% of our fans come out with !
It was a job he couldn’t turn down, no matter how poor Scottish football is.
I thank him for seeing the best football i’ve seen in the 20 years i’ve been a season ticket holder, but still hope Rangers win the league :-)
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AMAZING!
That’s how I look at the JUDAS jibes.
Some people have short memories & seem to forget the position West Brom were in BEFORE he came to the Hawthorns.
Mind you, the same was said of Ron Atkinson back in the 70′s & more recently when Ardiles went to Spurs!
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1 YEAR ROLLING CONTRACT – and he still left, mind you thats all he offered Phillips and wanted him to accept it.
Hopefully we can get rid of some on the rubbish he signed and get that defensive midfield General that he didnt sign in the 3 years he was here. Good luck Tony, remember stay loyal to the people who are loyal to you!
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SIR TERRY BAGGIE, i totally agree matey, get Fergie Jnr in, he could be a chip off the old block.
As for ToMo, I do wish him all the best he was a great manager in his brief stay and we scored some impressive goals with him at the helm.
Celtic will no doubt kick some butt next season with the attacking style of play.
Goodbye and thanks. Give him a few years and he maybe managing back in England for a big club.
Hopefully we can keep Fortune!
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sorry i should have posted this along with my other message but to Warren (Albion) I think the only reason his staying silent is becuase he may make a raid for some of our guys.
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Now that the dust has settled I like to wish Mowbray, Venus & Grant the best of luck in making Celtic great again. I feel the man has handled the situation with alot of respect and integrity not once has he requested this move but when the opportunity (i.e the compo was settled) came up he wanted to talk, if anyone listens to Mowbray about his Celtic days there was no way he would this this opportunity. we all knew deep down he would be off we just thought it was going to be Boro which shows he has loyalty to his heart. He hasn’t thrown his toys out the pram and i believe had they not seen eye to eye he would have happily stayed without no moaning. So now its a new chapter we have a decent squad on long contracts and prospect of having an excited young manager there are some good times to be had.Lets give him the best support possible like we did with TM without the high expectations. At the end of the day the chairman as usual has done right by the club and TM has done what he feels is right and if we read between the lines he said ‘the players must show loyalty’ and thats true not him as he didn’t play 38 games and got relegated. He prepared them for every game in the right manner as well played well 9 times out of 10 it was individual mistakes that cost us something he cannot account for, only the players. Come on you baggies!!!
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bet you all feel silly now wearing those silly masks he was already leaving before the final game
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@ Nedball, actually his first game will be a Champions League qualifier, something that WBA will never experience anytime in the next few decades. WBA are a decent club, i have a degree of respect for Albion, but when a huge club in the form ofCeltic come along did you realistically expect him to turn us down?
He’s an ex-Celt and received unerring support from Celtic fans when he suffered personal tragedy and i’m sure it’s a dream for him to return to Parkhead.
Hail Hail!
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Cyril.
I listened carefully as well.
I am not sure whether he was tapped up.
I am pretty sure he became disillusioned with a future at WBA which included cutting players and limited trsnsfer funds and working with JP.
Chalk and cheese!!
In many ways I don’t blame him for going to a club with 60000 home support, European football and trsnsfer funds and an easy run of games in the SPL.
As fans, I think the Mowbray years have served as an antidote to the dire offerings from Megson and Robson.
I feel that the football world liked our style of football but laughed at the fact that we seemed happy to lose games.
Celtic fans posts want winning football and won’t settle for less.
It’s time for us to toughen up and demand the same from our team, new manager and Board.
I am getting a bit fed up of patronising attitude to our club.
Nice little family club. Well run but getting nowhere!!
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Gents..there will be those that liked TM…one being me….but…if he wasnt that good a manager why didnt they go for Coyle(who had he been approached would have joined them..no doubt in my mind),McCarthy down the road…Phil Brown(kept Hull up),Pulis(kept Stoke up)..all managers that are deemed to be better than TM by those that disliked him.
Its the way football is today…no one accept the fans has any loyalty…no one…
They are a bigger club than us…always will be…they are on a par with Man Utd fanwise..
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Goodbye Mr Mowbray (no best wishes included) or should that be goodbye to Mr Mowbray the self confessed man of his word, who will not give up until his mission is completed, or should I just call you JUDAS!
I hope that the Celtic fans like your style of 4-5-1 football, I hope they enjoy your stubborness when you refuse to change what everyone else can see is not working, I also hope they tolerate your poor excuses when Celtic hopefully lose against Rangers, and when Celtic don’t make it through the group stages of next years Champions League, I also hope they like to watch Borja Valero and other of your poor signings that you will make do nothing game in game out , enjoy the Mickey Mouse league Mr Mowbray, a one year rolling contract isn’t exactly showing true “Celtic family” faith now is it! I hope for your sake the Celtic fans are as forgiving as we were!
Goodbye and Good Riddance!
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get over it sandwell he has gone to a bigger club with bigger ambitions than you scrubbers!!!!!!!!!!!! and all your players want to go aswell hahahaha what a joke you lot are end of last season you wer loving him now your saying good riddance!!!!!!!!! haha i cant stop laughing at you i think you will be lucky to get midtable next season!!!!!!! tony adams for sandwell bong bong going down again!!!!!!!!
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Judas??? You lot are pathetic. He’s gone up the M6 the Mowbray Way oh yes he has!
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Like so many baggies fans, I thoroughly enjoyed TM’s time at the shrine, not least because I thought the he brought real dignity and the retunr of a code of conduct which has almost entirely vanished from football. I was especially pleased with his comments after relegation and in particular when he said: they owe the football club, they owe the fans and their team-mates another crack at it.
Now we all know that this meant nothing! When the chance came he took it, sheer hypocrisy.
OK Celtic hold a special place in his heart he says because of the fans, we heard the same sort of comments on countless occasion about our fans yet when push came to shove TM showed us his true colours. So some advice for TM don’t get on your soap box and start talking about obligations and codes of behaviour just before you demonstrate the exact opposite on your way out of the door.
I don’t think I can remember anyone else, other than Ardiles, throwing such affection and support straight back in the faces of fans. I’m afraid that he can’t really expect to leave the Baggies on a tide of goodwill after acting in such a manner. Even taking JP into account it’s clear that what was right for TM was what he wanted, so I hope that I don’t ever hear him pontificating again.
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22.. Hail Hail.. Your are a “huge club”(your words not mine) admit it your a very big fish in a tiny tiny pool.
Bradford City (first team I thought of) would be in the champions league if they where in the SPL. All celtic or Rangers have to do is to beat each other 3 or 4 times and they win the league.
I dont knock the man for going but its not exactly a challenge.
why is Celtics first match a qualifer for the champions league I thought with celtic being one of the biggest clubs in the world surley they would not have to go through such a demeaning act as to have to play in qualifers.
Cyril top post again of course he was tapped up weeks and weeks ago I am sure if it where Celtic after Alex Ferguson and they had gone about the same way then some sort of investigation into corruption etc.. would be on the cards. but thats just my opinion.
I will always look back on the Mowbray era with a smile over the style of football we played but with his deceipt and his double standards over this issue I have lost all respect for him as a man
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26. Finchy what an infantile pratt you are
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“honesty, integrity, humility and respect” I think not Tony on all counts
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Judas? As tin pot as the SPL is, he has a serious chance of silverware, and Champions League adventures almost guaranteed, something we could never seriously expect. He no longer has to work with JP, tight budgets and low player ages, and he’s probably got a pay increase himself. If anyone seriously thinks he’d stay, especially given his Celtic connections, they are deluded.
I wish him well, and thank him for the hundreds of goals we scored during his tenure, pity we never mastered defending, ironic given where Mowbray played, but you can’t have everything can you!!
From a realistic Albion fan.
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18 At last someone admits that WBA are a SMALL club.
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Finchy Idiot 26 – thanks for those words of dingle wisdom. Those calling TM a Judas are saying that from their heart. Don’t get me wrong I am deeply disappointed that he has gone & also feel a little betrayed but he has left to go a club that is close to his heart and looked after him well when his wife died. You cannot take those feelings away and I doubt any supporter of any club would turn their back on such an opportunity to manage a club close to your heart. And if we are really honest, yes he got up, yes we played some good football, but ultimately he played a big part in us getting relegated (Carson, Valero, Meite, etc, etc).
We have to forget TM & move on. As I said in yesterday’s post, heart goes for McInnes, head would go for Coppell, Jones, Ferguson or Curbs if he had the desire. TM has gone, but life at our club goes on. The team and management failed to deliver in the Premiership, us the supporters did not fail in the premiership and we must stand by the team during our hopefully temporary stay in the Championship. Premiership awaits!
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I think it’s hilarious! You lot have been going on about how mowbray has got you playing attractive football and how your coming back up the Mowbray way!
Now your saying good ridence, your glad he’s gone, you all had to sit through some boring games last year and that you hope Celtic fans like watching a 4-5-1 unadventerous formation!
What a difference a couple of weeks make! Going up the, Ince way??????? (haha)
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To quote Mowbray he lives his life by “honesty, integrity, humility and respect” fortunately he didn’t mention “Loyalty”. Baggies rebuild, you will be better off.
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Hail, hail. Some Wolves on here (excluding the brain donors) and some of our own fans.
You seem to be missing the point. The Judas jibes and other complaints are not about him going to Celtic. I think we all understand his reasons and whether they are a big club or not is beside the point. It was his hypocritical preaching about loyalty, honour and integrity, together with the five year plan that he said he would see through. Read Post 1, it says it all. Right up until a few days ago Tony Mowbray supporters, myself included were berating more cynical fans on here, telling them that we had a man of his word in charge, that wouldn’t do the dirty on us. What fools we were, he hasn’t had the decency to say a word of explanation to our supporters. Yes the ones that have virtually hero worshipped him. The ones that didn’t get on his back after some atrocious performances. The ones that gave him a standing ovation and sang his name after we were the first team to be relegated. Good luck with him and hope that Middlesborough don’t come calling.
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26.Brilliant sir.Absolutely brilliant.Could’nt have put it better myself.Have you seen who their first match is against?Just wonder who Alan Shearer will be managing by then.
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33.
I’ll have a pint of whatever you’ve been drinking.
35.
As I’ve said to some of your lot before. If you stop telling lies about us, we won’t tell the truth about you.
Perhaps you’re both imagining things, it should set you in good stead for the season to came
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Finchy 26
For a little boy who is still in primary school you already have an honours degree in stupidity. Hopefully when you grow up and go into the big school you may be able to wear a pair of long trousers, and maybe even learn to spell. Make the most of your next 38 games. I have a funny feeling that this time next year you’ll be back down.
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wise move I think. Champions league football and a good chance of silverware.
Or Fizzy pop footie with a team of players who dont really want to be there. I know where I would pick. But I would say that wounldn’t I.
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How many transfer requests will be put in now? Yes of course his conscience is clear, he relagated the club and then left them after telling his player ‘to stay loyal’. Tony Adams and Aidy Bothroyd are the two names that keep being mentioned today to take over as manager. Sorry guys but this time last year you were coming on the wolves page dishing it out I am afraid you have to take it back. You need a clear out, Robinson, Carson and Moore are not good enough, bring in some quality. You have also been linked to James Scowcroft on a free again?
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Fellow Albion fans , you’re wearing your hearts on your sleeves a bit too much and leaving yourselves wide open for the pathetic dingle jibes. He’s gone , forget him , end of. A bright and hopefully better new manager will come in and take the club forward. On the subject of which, to all those of you who say McInnes and Ferguson lack experience , what experience did Atkinson, Giles and Ardiles have when they came? Please forget TM. That chapter’s finished. A new one begins now.
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12 MTH CONTRACT?FOR SOMEONE WHO MEANS SO MUTCH TO A CLUB AND BEING BACK HOME WHERE HE BELONGS.THATS A GREAT VOTE OF CONFIDENCE TONY,NOT THE GRASS AINT ALLWAYS GREENER ON THE OTHERSIDE,AS FOR WANTING OUR PLAYERS?COME GET THE DONKEYS YOU SIGHNED,BET MCDONALD WILL BE A TOP PLAYER ALONG WITH BEATIE,LOVED THE CONFIDENT LOOK ON YA FACE TONY AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE,RABBIT IN THE HEADLIGHTS MORE LIKE
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Lets have no more talk about the man at celtic.ITS ONWARDS AND UPWARDS GOING UP IN STYLE and lets hope for dingles in the cup home or away.COME ON YOU BAGGIES.
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I love tony mowbray, his style of play etc, but to managers and players its a job, unlike us fans albions in our blood. TM’s gone now, case closed, so lets look forward to the new season and get out of this league.Personally, my choice of manager is Darren Ferguson, he seems to have the qualities we’re looking for and on a plus note, his dad must have educated him on the finer points of being a top manager.
COME ON YOU BAGGIES !!!!!!
BOING BOING back up where we belong.
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Send T.M. the wooden spoon from last season.
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To all these very petulent DINGLES posting on our pages I for one will take great pleasure in rubbing a tremendous amount of salt into your wounds when not only are you relegated by Christmas but also become the whipping boys of the Premier League. In my very humble opinion I still reckon West Brom have more class than you NETTO BAGS and only time will show this fact, but for now we’ll let you giggle as for this time next year the boot will be firmly on the other foot. RELEGATED BY CHRISTMAS THE DINGLE WAY OOOOHHHH YES.
P.S (26) SCRUBBERS……. DON’T MAKE ME LAUGH…. YOUR BIGGEST TOURIST ATTRACTION FOR YEARS WAS AN ELDERLY POLISH MAN LIVING IN A TENT LOL.
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15 mat,we not bothered about him going,its the way hes gone about it,take your blinkers off aye boing boing judas
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The past few seasons have been a charming interlude for the fans and club.
With TM we have been like children in a sweet shop.
Enjoy all these sweets (open style of football and so on)and we’ll be fine!!
Actually we did enjoy the sweets and last season we got the consequences! We were violently sick. Relegation.
Now, lets hope we can get someone in who will give us the sweets but knows when to say stop and give us some good solid food to sustain us.
If I have totally lost you.
I want a decent, balanced manager. PLEASE!
FURTHER.
Coyles Burnley beat us on a number of occasions last year!
Tell me who was/is the better manager?
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Mombray is saying that the reason he has decided to leave is because he hadn’t got on well with the board for much of last season! Think a few changes near the top are wats needed as well as a new manager!
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KENT WOLF your amazing,last year you where too ill to go to the matches this year your on about going all over the country where do you have your treatment lourdes aye boing boing woodwork
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Mowbray didn’t bid farewell, he just walked out without a word. You seem to be forgetting that at a great number of matches last season the fans started to leave at half time. The tippy-tappy football didn’t find favour until all was lost. It was the last thing to cling on to in a humiliating season. Mowbray has joined a long list of managers who see a better future elsewhere, pity so many of you made fools of yourselves with your sycophantic support of a loser, only to have it thrown back in your faces. Boing Boing Bu**er it.
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once again a manager whos relationship with mr peace deteriorated.i would love to know what goes on behind closed doors in that mans office.The days of managers being in control of football matters are long gone. We not only need A STRONG NEW MANAGER,but a chairman and board who have ambition and a clear vision for the future instead of someone who is good at managing the club from a financial point of veiw but cant resist sticking his nose in the dressing room.
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I will repeat, for the benefit of posts that aren’t read properly, IT WAS THE SILENCE I COULDN’T ACCEPT! The girlfriend that dumps you tells you why. Now we hear ‘relationships were not good behind the scenes’. When it was mooted that Celtic might come in for him, I wished him well if he took the post. I compared it Ossie Ardiles leaving us for Tottingham. Some players ‘belong’ to a club, like Bob Taylor, Tony Brown and those of my day too. Say Steve Bull, think Wulfies. That’s a few, precious heroes we all have and need. Not once have I read one word or heard one word from Tony Mowbray about our fans who brought comments from TV, radio and newspapers about their loyalty. THAT’S what leaves a nasty taste. I have now made a promise to myself. I shall NOT be reading any more Celtic articles or anything to do with this business. We have a job to do. Appoint a new manager. Win some matches. Play the Wulfies and Blues in the Big League next season. Finchy26. Your Mom just phoned me to borrow my great-grandsons spare teat for your bottle. Hurry before your milk goes cold.
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wasnt it ardilles 2 spurs mowbray 2 celtic and ray harford to qpr????? hahahaha what a joke of a club im so glad i was brought up correctly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well thanks to all the ‘no brain dingles’ comments . .. I seem to remember all of you calling for Mick’s head a season ago and now look at you all !!
It’s quite obvious that the reason he left was because of the lack of funds and having to reduce the size of the squad!
Let’s get Fergie Jnr in . . . he is the only one who can get us promoted on a shoestring!!
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Albion fans: Its gone from love to pure hate for that man over night with me! Only last month, the 2 games I made at home – we were singing our hearts out for MOGGA. Now all I want for him is the worst of everything. What an ugly, dour pathetic man he is. Never step inside our ground again TM – we hate you with a passion.
Anyway Albion massive – Lets bring in McInnes or Gergie. Whoever it is lets hope its a good choice Mr Peace or you’ll be next leaving The Hawthorns.
At the end of the day its West Bromwich Albion we TRUELLY love, we’ll love WBA til we die no matter who’s in charge. UP the JERZ!
Boing, BOING ALBION fans all the way back to the top flight passing the dingles on the way up next term. ONE love = W B A forever.
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TM said he asked the players to show loyatily to the club does that mean he will not try to sighn some of them
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Hail Hail, such a big club that you couldnt attract a manager outside of the second tier of English football. What a joke you lot are, only big in your own back yard.
Here’s a name to throw into the hat as manager, Paul Tisdale of Exeter City. Back to back promotions and play off final losers the year before that.He also had 3 or 4 promotions with Team Bath, not bad for someone who has only been a manager since 2001. The guy is a winner and his teams play the West Brom way.
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Good luck to the future Tony Mowbray you have said what all true baggies fans really know
Jeremy Peace is the real villian in the club
I urge Peace to sell the club because he as taken the albion fans for real mugs Fact!
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Does anyone have any masks for sale??????
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I can’t believe some of the anti TM comments on this site. Mickey mouse league or not Glasgow Celtic is one of the biggest names in world football and being asked to manage a club like that has got to be one of the biggest honours in British football.I am not a celtic fan but i have been to Celtic park on match days and that support and stadium is like nothing i have ever experienced either in England or indeed Europe. Good luck TM, with your style of football and the far greater players at Celtic park you WILL be a success.
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Calm down everyone – Footballs’ a game and sometimes you have to take the rough with the smooth.Life’s all about enjoying it – but lets’ be realistic TM was a failure last season for various reasons – and what ! he’s been given a Plum Job – what does that say about the Club and more importantly the Industry we support. It’s not a Sport now so loyalty/respect goes out the Window. TM has had a pot at Jeremy Pearce – quite within his rights – but who’s to blame is another matter.
WBA does seem to have a dicator at its helm.
Is that a good or bad thing ?
If the right price came along from “Russia – The Middle East” I ask you then – where would Jeremy Pearces’ Loyalty be then
Just a Thought – “Boing Boing”
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Nedball, get a life. Aberdeen away in tm first game is much harder than anything you’ll come up against this season in your so called ‘championship’ lets call it what it really is ‘division 2′
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Sorry Should have said DICTATOR whats a dicator ?
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55 Cyril.
Good point. Can’t help agree that it’s very conveniant that suddenly Celtic come along and he doesn’t get on with the Chairman. I know all the anti-Peace conspiracy theorists will jump on this straight away but only a few games from the end of the season I heard an interview where Mowbray was defending Peace, saying that the wage cap was his own idea and stating what a good relationship they enjoyed.
I am another convert to your earlier tapping up theory. At the Liverpool game I just thought TM was being modest and possibly embarrassed at the ovation he received. Could the embarrassment have been due to other reasons?
On another tack. I heard John Kettley, ex-weatherman and Burnley fan on Talksport today. He was confidently predicting that they’d beat Stoke and might nick a 1-0 against Man Ure. Just like many of the Wolves fans looking forward to an easy start to their fixtures on a different thread on here. Can’t wait.
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62,mine will be on the way to celtic park on july 1st,adressed to judas mowbray,with a little message inside,you can have that one aye boing boing up the gers
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58,ditto mate thats how i feel,nows hes even trying to shift the blame,hes the lowest of the low,boing boing
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48. Well considering the fact that all of your players want out, you have no manager (and Aidy Bothroyd is favourite!) we have just won the championship with 7 more points than you did with an average age off 22 I take your comments as being bitter and nothing more. You will not come up next season infact lucky to make the play-offs. Wolves will finish above Hull, Blues and Burnley who will join you back in the championship. Now calm down I am sure Aidy Bothroyd or Tony Adams will do a good job stoping you from doing a leeds!
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Well, so much for the man whose self professed beliefs of honesty, loyalty and integrity were swallowed hook, line and sinker by the media and the fans alike.
The first carrot that was dangled in front of his nose and all his loudly proclaimed principles went out of the window.
What is it they say “beware false prophets”.
Will we never learn?
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Sad to see him go, but quite a few times last season his team selections and formations were a joke. The writing was on the wall, if we were not top at christmas JP would have given him the bullet and quite rightly so. Hopefully he will come back for Robbo who I thought had a poor season and maybe some of the other dross he brought in. Once again JP has managed to ensure the club has been compensated for the loss and hopefully we can turn a profit on any players we let go, personally I would go for Ferguson, young and ambitious.
In JP we trust.
ps. I hope Rangers win everything next season and then we will see how much the Celtic fans and club love him, Strachcan won 3 titles in 4 years and the fans hounded him out.
One last thing, where on earth did the E&S get
those cabbages from on the video?
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Roll up Roll up!!! come and see the Circus at the Hawthorns plenty of clowns..Need a sponsor aswell
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OK I UNDERSTAND ALL COMMENTS BUT THEY ARE DIRECTED AT THE WRONG MAN, IVE SAID IT MANY TIMES SINCE WE FIRST GOT PROMOTED TO THE PREM I KNOW A LOT OF YOU DONT KNOW HOW JP OPERATES BUT BELIEVE ME I THINK ITS NOT MORALLY CORRECT I THINK THE WAY HE FORCED CLIVE STAPLETON OUT AFTER CLIVE DEDICATED A HELL OF A LOT OF HIS LIFE TO THE BAGGIES WAS DIABOLICAL. HE HAS SINCE FELL OUT WITH OTHER DIRECTORS,STAFF AND MEGSON,ROBSON,PEARSON AND THIS IS FROM TONY MOWBRAYS OWN MOUTH HE KNEW MID SEASON HE WOULD NOT BE AT THE CLUB NEXT SEASON HE LOVES THE CLUB,AREA,AND THE FANTASTIC FANS BUT HE CAN NOT WORK WITH JP AND ALL THE OBSTACLES HE PUT IN FRONT OF HIM THAT INCLUDES PLAYERS HE WANTED BUT HAD TO SETTLE FOR LESS WHO KNOWS THOSE PLAYERS MAY HAVE MADE THE LINK BETWEEN MIDFIELD AND ATTACK ,BALL WINNER OR A COMMANDING DEFENDER TYSLEY BAGGIE SAID IT HE NO LONGER HAS TO WORK WITH JP KEVAN49 SAID YOU REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT JP IS REALLY LIKE I THINK HE IS A NASTY PIECE OF WORK THATS SOMETHING ELSE THATS BEEN MENTIONED LATELY YOU CAN SAY THAT HE HAS KEPT THE CLUB FINANCIALLY STABLE PAUL THOMPSON ETC MADE IT STABLE BEFORE MEGSON WITH THE HELP OF FAN POWER FORCED HIM OUT (WHAT A BAD MOVE THAT WAS) STAPLETON ETC TOOK US UP GOT GOT SH-T ON THEN JP GOT THE FIRST PROMOTION MONEY HE WOULD HAVE HAD TO BE A COMPLETE IDIOT TO MESS IT UP AFTER THAT I HOPE THIS GOES SOME WAY TO HELP SOME FANS TO SEE TM DECISION IN A DIFFERENT LIGHT IF NEXT TIME YOU HERE FROM ME IM ASKING FOR DONATIONS TOWARDS MY LEGAL FEES PLEASE GIVE GENEROUSLY AND ASTLE68 IM SURE VALERO WILL COME GOOD
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63 Jimmy Johnstone
Aberdeen players in the first team squad with experience in the English League:
Charlie Mulgrew- released by Wolves, no impact
Gary McDonald- Oldham
Lee Miller- transfer listed by Bristol City, no impact
Bertrand Bossu- Barnet, Hayes, Gillingham, Torquay, Oldham, Darlington, Accrington Stanley and Walsall, only played more than 10 games at one of those clubs
Sone Aluko- Released by Birmingham without playing
I appreciate that excludes the likes of Mackie, but I’ve gotta be honest mate, that doesn’t sound like a step up from the Championship, especially given the side we face on day one will probably include half a dozen internationals.
I think it’s just a slap in the face that TM cites fans’ loyalty in the past as influencing his decision, yet offers no explanation or acknowledgment of the Albion fans that stood by him and supported him, when even the national media applauded this.
As Cyril says, it’s like your girlfriend leaving without an explanation. As for our next girlfriend, I go with Darren Ferguson, a younger, better-looking version!!
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26. Finchy. We will have all next season to make comments about your wonderfull club,I think you will provide us with much amusement.
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My minds split on this, Celtic are a big big club and must have been a very difficult offer to turn down, especially when your emotionally drawn to it has he is.
Its a job at the end of the day and as a Manager you want to manage as high as you can. He never had loyalty when he left hibs for us and has shown the same loyalty when Celtic came knocking, most managers are the same.
The thing thats offended most people is his silence about the facts above and telling players they owe the club another year when he doesn’t feel he doesn’t. He’s just like everyone else and wants to get to the top and doesn’t care about who he steps on during the trip. The crap about problems with Peace is just a smokescreen, with or without that he’d have gone.
He’s left us now in a fairly tough situation with probably quite a lot of the squad looking to go. We need Peace to drive the tough deals to get good money in for our new manager.
My suggestion would be Curbs, a man who was loyal to Charlton for a long long time and built the club up on less resources that we have.
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I think realistically I have to say thanks for the promotion season and for some of the football. Ultimately however, his failure to keep us in the prem meant there remain questions about him as a manager. I’m sorry he’s gone but there is a good chance that some of the names being touted have every chance of being better managers.
Fergie of McInnes for me I think.
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tony please dont forget to take robbo in your taxi, cheers and goodnight, boing boing
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baggies supporters let the dingles harp on because WHO are they being linked with yes championship players seems they have loads of ambition ha ha ha ha ha you,ll be down quicker than the chairmans redrow house prices .
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Sir Terry Baggie. Answer to your question on the Wolves site.
Mowbray is older than Hanhemann and he managed to get down (from Jockland) and back up again without any problem !
Hope you enjoyed the video
Boing Boing Ooops
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Well as a Wolves fan I sympathise with you. What a joke. I cannot accept his comments that loyalty is for the fans but not the manager. How can players be loyal to a football club when the manager has a different set of rules. Lets put it this way, if we all had a pretty bad year at work would we be entitled to walk away at the end of the year or would we stick at it and achieve what we set out to. The later I think.
The bottom line is that TM is using excuses to take what he thinks is the bigger better deal.
The fans and the staff stuck with TM after what was a disappointing season. Again, making the analogy with the normal work environment, it would normally be the case after a poor year at work to be sacked or subject to disiplinary action. Albion stuck by him even if there were fractions in the camp but TM has not been loyal.
Much is made of players being disloyal but in this case he has done the same.
Do you guys remember Mark Maghee. He left a number of clubs in search of the better deal and got stung when he simply did not live up to the demands of the job. Where is he now. TM’s career will undoubtedly head south from this point onwards.
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im not going to mention his vile name agen,lets get back to where we was backing our great club to win promotion and watching the dingles become the laffinstock of the prem,aye boing boing going up the ALBION WAY IN STYLE OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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CAN’T EVERYONE SEE THE OBVIOUS? PEACE IS THE PROBLEM,COMES OUT STATING WE DON’T WONT TO LOSE TM, THERE WAS NO RIFT, WE HAVE GOT £2 MILLION PLUS IN COMPO, BLAR BLAR, COMES OUT SMELLING OF ROSES WITH NO ONE QUESTIONING HIM, SURELY 3 EX MANAGERS CANT ALL BE WRONG.VERY CUNNING AND CLEVER I FOR ONE TAKE MY HAT OFF TO HIM, MUST HAVE BEEN HIS WORST NIGHTMARE, EVERYONE SINGING ONLY 1 TM, THEN ALMOST OVER NIGHT HIS PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET RID OF TM ARISES.
AS LONG AS PEACE IS IN THE BOARDROOM, THERE WILL BE NO PEACE IN THE BOARDROOM.
BOING BOING
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Firstly I enjoyed TM’s style of football but he was too naieve for the Premiership, and some of his signings were very poor. What I have no time for is hypocrits and TM fits that glove perfectly.
As for our beloved Mr Peace, I would be very interested to find out if he took his inflated salary of £604k in a relegation season as he did in our promotion season…..and in a credit crunch ?????????? Incidently he is the only Chairman ever to take a salary from the Albion.
Maybe had JP backed TM in signing Scott Brown and Kevin Thomson for a fraction of what they are worth now we would hve stayed up.
The new Manager must be backed this time.
Two other points The Scottish League is only English Division 1 standard, and I couldn’t be bothered to comment on the comments of the six fingered inbred Dingles.
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Think theres a few Celtic fans posing as Albion fans on here as well as a certain idiotic dingle. But thats expected.
I was expecting 2 read this with a statement on strained relations, obviously with the chairman. Nothin new there!
But also a mention of the fans for the shire support, admiration & backing we gave him. Even if he had of done so, it would of been too late! But the fact he hasn’t mentioned one thing after all the support we gave him sickens me & makes me fuming! That is just takin the p**s. Our mowbray masks, our last home game ovation was something else that a lot of managers would never experience and not so much as a quick thanks. Is this happening??
Tony Im sorry the way this has all happened is a disgrace & u shall never get any best wishes from me. I feel so strange sayin this as I, like most fans adored u. But now I will never forgive u, WE will never forgive u! And any minority of fan that kids themselves that he has done nothing wrong needs 2 have a think.
The man could have came out with a simple statement when all this speculation was happening, like:
“Im flattered Celtic want me as a manager, but (for now) Im still manager here, we’ll see what happens and maybe at some point I will consider talkin 2 them. But (for now) am concentrating on my job”
The usual things managers say before leaving, remaining silent is one thing and makes u a coward and a skank.
Not to acknowledge our fans with a single word, after all our support is completely another and makes u a disgrace and is just unforgiveable
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74 kev in mallorca.
For someone in another country you seem to know an awful lot about the West Brom boardroom. I wonder how. Or is it all straight from rumour control. As for legal fees, do you really think JP has time to sit reading these message boards?
PS. Putting everything in caps doesn’t impress people, just makes it harder work to read.
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No, 48, I told all the albion fans last year what comes around goes around when you were all laughing at us, The truth hurts doesnt it but dont despair you could always get Alan Buckley in and Brian Little as his no 2 LOL.
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Special Edition, Talking Mowbray mask for sale:
Last used late May, used 2 have all the special phrazes when u pressed a button including:
“I would suggest”
“We’ll see how we go”
“Would like to give a special mention to the fans”
“We need to show loyalty”
But for some reason the voice feature has been broken now for the last 2-3 weeks, may require new batteries. Free to a good new owner.
Oh sod that Im burning it!!!
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No,48,I told you last year that what goes around comes around when you were all laughing at us.May i suggest bringing in Alan Buckley and Brian Little as his no,2 LOL.
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the video at the top is one of the funniest things i have ever seen. as for Mowbray trying desperately to justify his demand for loyalty from the players that didnt apply to himself a load of garbled nonsense . You will do yourselves a favour getting Darren Ferguson.
Up The Wolves.
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All hail tony mowbary. what a fella. dumping tha scum for the hoops :) nd ur all linked too paul ince and darren ferguson (ex wolves players) and dave jones (ex manager)
thats it albion go the wolves way
up the wolves :)
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74 – kev in mallorca. Totally agree with you. JP has short arms and sub-terrainian pockets. Three promotions to the Prem, three relegations and three different managers. Only one chairman, though – Peace. If the media reports are correct he got a good price for Mowbray but the deal was good for Peace, not the Albion or the fans. Personally I would like to see Curbishley in next but he won’t be manipulated by Peace as an inexperienced manager might be. McInnes hasn’t got the track record, much as I admire the guy. And Mowbray’s silence in all of this, prior to today, has been deafening. Integrity? About the same as Celtic’s. Maybe they deserve each other.
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LAUGHINGWILF,,,lets see whos laughing after 12 games when dozy thick mick gets the sack cos yum bottom of the table..MUPPET…
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good riddance — you had 3 years to sort out the defence and failed miserably you where a laughing stock on match of the day and to me Scotland is where failed players and managers go – couldn’t handle the pressure
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Hey! Wolves fans
Albion have already been there and done it,
the prem is just so boaring and predictable +
GETTING BEAT EVERY WEEK ISNT MY IDEA
OF FUN! As many of the Dinglets will find out
next season.
Theres only one man for the job to become the
new manager of ALBION and thats CHRIS COLEMAN!!
Bring him on……..Mr Peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tony Mowbray was a pretty decent manager
although some of his signings were terrible….
LUKE MOORE,BORJA VALERO,SCOTT CARSON etc
and me thinks J.Peace was not a happy bunny.
20M WASTED!! BY MOWBRAY!
Thats got to be why the relationship between
the two broke down.
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Going North the McMowbray way!
Mid table stability the Fergie way?
Relegation the Adams way?
Boredom the Curbishley way?
Football on a shoestring the Boothroyd way?
Dung Dung ha ha. Great threads!
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I’m no fan of our chairman, but he’s done well here.
Atkinson’s comments are spot on. Mowbray wasted the best oppotunity we ever had to consolidate ourselves in the Prem. We were as good as down before a ball was kicked. No strikeforce, no grit.
I think celtic mat well struggle to finsih 2nd with him in charge. Walter Smith must be rubbing his hands.
Who next?
The only one I’ve heard so far i don’t want is Shearer. We need someone who can come in, sort it out and has an experienced head.
My choice…Dave Jones.
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74 generally agree with most of your comments. Baggie fans you are blaming the wrong man!
Just remember 3 managers all who have fallen out with JP probably due to him not supporting them when needed, early last season he stated funds would be made available for the January window – what happened NOTHING, TM had to see what loans he could get, the same happened with Robbo and ultimately led to our relegation.
The common denominator all along has been ‘Scrooge’ Peace.
Where has all the money gone from 4 seasons in the Prem which would be around £120 million plus 3 lots of parachute funds which must add up to another £50 million plus the transfers from players we sold so lets see some accounts or explanations!!!!!!
As long as JP stays in control we will never establish in the Premiership or keep a decent manager, I bet whoever comes in next lasts no more than 3 years, if he’s lucky.
Lets face it Stoke and Hull took some risks in their signings and paid higher wages to get the players in and it paid off, Jeremy will never do that which will always keep us back – ask yourselves again – where’s all the money gone???
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70) I would be more worried of doing a Wolves (1,2,3,4) than a Leeds!!
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OK – comments from a life long fan exiled in Australia (but has managed to get to games in each of our Premiership seasons)…
Lots of us loved TM for bringing some style back to the shrine, but ALL of us were puzzled by his inability to sort out defensive no-brainers & never understood some of his tactical decisions… so personally I am sad to see him go but mostly for fear of the unknown & who will be next – especially after JP’s Robson experiment…
On an ethical level TM dug a hole too deep for himself with his loyalty comments BUT in my heart of hearts I can’t grudge him taking what might be his one & only lifetime oportunity for the job of his dreams…
As to JP – yes he holds the purse strings of the club & clearly he is NOT going to send himself broke pouring his personal wealth into the Baggies – BUT he is going to keep us on a sound financial footing so we will be there or nearly there for years to come – AND he has been honest in acknowledging this & in looking for suitable money-bags to buy the club, if they ever do no doubt he will take his modest profit & we will probably agonise on seeing the soul of our club sold to the highest bidder who as likely as not has no history, understanding or love of the club…
As for the Dingles they will hopefully enjoy their short time in the sun & we will get a few lauhs from some of their scorelines whilst remaining jealous that they are ther & we are not just as fans of both have done when roles are reversed for time immemorial !
It’s a game, it’s a laugh & the tears are only ever short-term – or should be because of this.
AND FINALLY, TM’s first challenge with the ‘oops is in my now home town of Brisbane here in Queensland in a couple of weeks time facing the A League Brisbane Roar – which should just about get him ready for the SPL ifnot the Champions League !
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from north of the border, not Canada I might add :-)
Welcome Home Mogga!
Mowbray, who Barcelona chief Laporta recommended to Celtic after watching his gallant West Brom side get relegated, will now get down to business of fending off unwanted attention from agents and players (linked via lazy journalists) who wish to follow him to Celtic.
The question that Celtic fans will be asking is: Was Tony Mowbray the best affordable and attainable option out there?
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I AM GOING TO WEAR MY MOGGA MASK NEXT SEASON JUST TO REMIND ALL OUR LOYAL FANS ABOUT JUDAS
I THINK WE SHOULD GET A LOAD PRINTED FOR THE FIRST GAME
WHAT A LAUGHING STOCK WE HAVE BECOME
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66 – Rogerbird. I think it means a woman in comfortable shoes (if you know what I mean) ;-)
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70:- we are the regular little clare voyant aren’t we, I put it to you that you may finish above Burnley but not tha other two you can’t offer the wages Birmingham can (Danns for example)and Bullard will be back for Hull (a player who has more footballing prowess in his little toe than you have in your whole squad). You have signed a past it goalkeeper (who may I add can’t even be called a has been but more a never was) and a midfield who I can honestly say I know nothing about.
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93 Martin.
Not having a go. Apart from trying to get out of paying the compo, Celtic have done nothing wrong, as far as we know. However, your bit about ‘defenders marking blades of grass, while 6’6′ centre forwards run past them’ made me laugh. You ain’t seen nothing yet. Get ready for 5’6′ midfield players running past them and scoring. The midfield passing will be beautiful, and you’ll score hatfuls of goals but the defence will be dire and probably why you won’t win the big games. If it’s anything like with us, it will be exciting but eventually frustrating.
Anyone else hear Venus on Talksport this morning? ‘Celtic are probably the only club he would have left West Brom for.’ Just shows that the ‘problems behind the scenes’ hinted at by Mowbray yesterday, are just more bulls**t and give more strength to Cyril’s theory.
The Jeremy Peace out brigade are raising their heads again. It’s easy to hint at ‘where’s the money gone?’ The club’s accounts are audited. This isn’t some backstreet venture where the profits can be hidden and end up in someones back pocket. Unless you have any proof otherwise.
Someone has commented on JP’s salary. I think you will find this is comparable to a CEO in any similar size business.
Surely we can put the ‘get out/sell out’ comments to bed. Jack Haywards and Jack Walkers don’t grow on trees. Billionaires are counting their pennies these days, that’s assuming you want our club in the hands of someone with no feelings for it in the first place. JP is an Albion fan. I bet he’d love to throw in the odd £100mill but he hasn’t got it.
As for falling out with managers. I’m a great Gary Megson fan but JP became Chairman taking over from Paul Thompson who had already fallen out with Gary.
Bryan Robson was sacked because we were going nowhere with him at the helm, blame Peace for appointing him but not for sacking him.
Less than 2 months ago Tony Mowbray was on Tom Ross’ show, saying what a great relationship he had with Jeremy Peace, obviously before Celtic turned his head.
I know I’m banging my head against a brick wall but I wish that I could take the people that don’t like the way the club is being run back 10 to 25 years in a time machine. I can guarantee it would be an eye opener for many.
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My last words on the Mowbray saga…. hurt and disappointed that he couldn’t acknowledge the support he was give by the Albion fans – not one word of thanks stinks – and to see him and the Celtic Chairman talking about his principles and the sort of man he is just made me wanna hurl.
Anyway – we are Albion fans not mowbray fans, and I agree with BFR that the next manager needs to make an immediate impact – we are still a great club and well placed for a great season – whoever comes in has got to be able to run with that straight away.
To all the wulfies – laugh away boys, I guess its your turn for once (at last) – but when you get relegated next season which club do you think will pay £2 million for MM ?????
Finally LW – PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE get some proper therapy for this inferiority complex – you are quite a worry.
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Do I have any apologies for telling you all what would happen on videa on this website over three months ago??.
When you all took it personally and didn’t agree his tactis were poor, his sgnings were dreadful???
Oh well, never mind, maybe listen more next time round hey?
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101. Yes my friend but now it is 4,3,2, PREMIERSHIP! 107. We have signed Serbias captain who Vidic recommeded to Sir Alex, got serbian player of the year and scores alot of goals with a sweet left foot and can certainly mix it unlike Valero who you signed after seeing him play 45 mins in a friedly v the albion! Can you really comment of goalkepers with ‘calamity’ carson in goal? or deano ‘i couldnt be bothered to stay with my national team’ kiely? no.
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I’m really disappointed with whats gone on.. where’s the loyalty gone? In comparison to us Celtic are the SMALLER club! (due to the fact there is only 1 other team in there league!) Can’t wait to see there “goals against” total… He’s made a BIG mistake!
JUDAS!!!!!!
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109 Why in the world would I have an inferiority complex? Yes happy I am full with envy that we are not like the albion in the championship with a squad of players that do not want to be there, no sponsor, no manager and a trip to Bury to make it all better. Get real. I dont actually believe you think Wolves will get relegated you are saying because of bias towards us. Hull, Stoke, Burnley, Blues, Pompey (massive cut backs), Wigan (alot of players leaving) stoke will all be down there and this time again next year you will look silly.
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ALBION FAN 16 (112)
You need to get a life. Please do not mention the names Celtic & West Brom in the same breath, Celtic a smaller club! you must be on drugs. Apart from Man utd no club in Britain comes anywhere near in size to Celtic. If you want to compare your small club with a team that play in green and white then think Yeovill Town and not the WORLD FAMOUS Glasgow Celtic.
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70 & 111 laffinwulf. How many times are you going to bang on about winning the Championship by 7 more points than us. As I have told you before, it was because Albion, Stoke & Hull were not in there giving you a thrashing. Also, what makes you think that you will finish above Hull, Blues & Burnley?. The latter 2 took points off you last season, yes the season when you finished Champions with 7 more points than us with a young team bla bla bla…. You are a joke.
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111) Oh Im sorry I had not reliased you had gone 4,3,2 Prem in just FOUR seasons, is this not what happened when you went 1,2,3,4?
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The fall out between manager & chairman was recent & its safe 2 assume the whole 20-man squad episode was the main reason for TM’s departure but there was no need for his behaviour. Disgrace! Heres hoping that finally someone in the SPL breaks into the top 2 and Celtic finish 3rd what a laugh that would be
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No39. You couldn’t afford what I drink sunshine.
A message to all you Boggies fans. You are all obviously using the same crystal ball a Gordon Brown. Your predictions about the Wolves are about on a par with his about the economy!
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118.
Gordon Brown’s predictions on the economy have proved wildly optimistic. Does that mean Wolves are going to do even worse than we’ve been predicting? Have some faith in your team old bean.
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114 – Gerrard
A little less of the arrogance please. Most people would acknowledge that historically and fan wise Celtic are a bigger club than most English teams. however, you’re transfer and wage budgets are likely to be comparable to a large Championship club and you’ve just appointed a manager who’s last act was to get his club relegated.
Doesn’t sound like that big a club to me…
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111:- I really think you need to get to know your own players, as Nonads ooops Nenad Milijas is not Serbia’s captain and nor has he ever won Serbia’s player of the year award, he only has 10 caps and won the Serbian leagues most valued player and at a reproted £2.7 mill that can’t say much really.
Now do ya feel silly wolfie.
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