hi jarrod,,your right in saying there was no passion or fight in sundays game,and this is what hurts most.
we all knew it was going to be a learning curv for mowbray this year but its not happening quick enough is it,,why does he take so long in games we are losing and hes tactics were all wrong to start with to realise and do something about it,last five minutes isnt good enough,,then theres players who alot of fans rate and they cant even get a sniff,ie.cech,dorrans,mulumbu ,pele,donk ,why buy these players to keep the bench warm…i know injuries have played abig part this season and maybe without them we would of done better,,but the ones that are picked each week have to show some passion and fight cos sunday was unforgivable…lets see if things change for the everton game,i doubt it but heres praying you never know…….LEARNING THE HARD WAY,,OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH YES..

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Forgot the capitals !
And MARK VENUS WITH HIM

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Jarrod Hills` comments are absolutly true. My own support over the past 75 years has never wavered, but this team against Fulham were devoid of any sign of endeavours, fight, intelligence. Waste of space for two weks Bonding. The glue came unstuck !

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Why is everybody in the Black Country so negative. Wolves are top but its still not good enough and only 2/3 wins and Albion will be ok.

Keep the faith chaps, we need you to stay up so we can get a 6 point start next season!!!!

Keep the faith.

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“Our best player on the day was our woodwork!”

“my gut feeling is that we are going to be relegated. It wasn’t the result … it was the performance”

Both sentences that I, and I’m sure many more Baggies fans said since Sunday afternoon.

I got Sky HD on Saturday but resisted watching any of Saturdays matches so that the Albion could Christen it for me.

Thanks for that lads!

It’s the first time this season that I’ve thought we’ll go down.

We’re 3 points (realistically 4) behind Stoke and a further 3 behind 15th.
That’s 2 wins and a draw more than Portsmouth, Newcastle or Spurs needed – as I can’t see Blackburn staying where they are with Santa Cruz deciding that he suddenly DOES want to play for them).

Tex.

Someone give him a new map – the one he’s got at the moment seems to be full of blind-alleys and cul-de-sacs.

Jay Simpson was (IMO) the worst player on the pitch – Bednar should have come on earlier.

On the brightside – I always like to try to find one – Mesenguez looked useful, and we’re not Dingles! (Cardiff go top if they win their games in hand!!)

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If we can just get a result against a depleted everton on saturday even a draw to take into the arsenal game things could look so diffrent,cuz theres no doubt after the west ham game we have 5 winnable games we just need the players to find some fight and belief from somwhere and i think the only way to do that is to make changes,if tony mowbray persist in playing players that keep letting him down then like so many before him he will be the master of his own downfall,but as i say one result can change everything,aye boing boing weev done it before and we,ll do it agen

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Sandwell massive??
I’m glad you can see the positive side for us however I’m afraid I cannot share your optimism.
I do hope Wolves are promoted but knowing that my club will be going the other way makes it a lot harder to swallow. I’ll be honest and let you all know that I turned the TV off when the first goal went in and didn’t look back either. I was completely disgusted by the performance and for the first time in many many years I felt angry because of a WBA performance.

I’m not even sure if I will care to follow them now for the rest of the season, call me fickle but you know what…I’m fed up.
I won’t slate Mowbray in any way shape or form because I guarantee that if he were on the pitch he would have given it his all. It seemed at times that Fulham had 22 men on the pitch, EVERY-freakin-TIME we got the ball they were looming over us and what did we do???
We simply ran into them lost the ball and had the woodwork clattered again. For the first time in many games I felt sorry for Carson, he had no support and as for the attacking options the only player to try on Sunday was Fortune.
Should fans blame this on the absence of Greening come the end of the season when we have a fat R next to our name, then i am sorry but close your traps, their paid enough money to cope with such a loss and they don’t need their hands held. I certainly won’t be engaging in any banter with rival fans for the next season because you know what…we have NOTHING to come back with, no excuses. We have been pathetic.

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12
Sorry – I think you’re assuming Cardiff will only get 1-0 wins.
4 wins and 7 goals more scored than conceded and they WILL be top.

Anyway – this is off topic.

Shush now.

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The match against Fulham was a disgraceful performance. I have lost it with TM for some time now sadly—he’s a well meaning sort of bloke but BUT I support Albion and he has lost the dressing room because he continues to pick wrong players and put players in the wrong position. Koren is a central midfielder Morro is a wide one Valero is a joke and must not be picked again and what have Cech and Pele done to deserve not being picked. What has happened to Zuvy—in his first games for us he was great now he looks lost Also what does Grant do? Since he came we have got worse and worse and what about our fitness guru —more injuries than ever before. Bring in Curbs.

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It’s not looking good, in fact it’s looking pretty terrible. In saying that, we still have plenty of winnable games left, and most of those being at home, if we can emmulate the atmosphere of boro and spurs at home, who knows, we can certainly beat sunderland, bolton, wigan and stoke! and I’m pretty sure that will keep us up if i’m honest.

I’m not defending mowbray, he has been naive this year, and we have to understand that he has to defend is players in post match conferences, i was appalled sunday, but we still need to stick by the bloke, at the end of the day, our youth team beat liverpools last week 4 – 0 and i think that has to be the influence of mowbray!

if we do go down, he is the man to bring us back up….

keep the faith, learn from the mistakes, and move on.

we can still do it.

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Bully

I see you are more than a little p***** with some of our number mate.
I`m afraid it`s human nature coupled with selective memory……..ALL clubs have those “fans”
I am appalled by the black or white mentality,
saviour or imbecile there is no middle ground with these people, i wonder if the Mowbray out brigade are regular attendees…..i suspect not that many.

However mate, they are opinions that they are entitled to air, and personally i do hope you change your mind about staying off for a while.
Those of us who endured the “proper” dark times need to come on here and redress the balance.

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jarrod, as you know from my text half way through the game, i just couldnt believe what i was watching. I have never seen a mowbray team with as little idea, non existant passion or fight, and a complete lack of belief. What made this worse was to hear him say that they tried their best. NO THEY DID NOT.
I am firmly behind tony mowbray, and i believe that his journey will take us there in the end, but please along the way lets have some of the footballwe saw last year, and lets see a lot more fight from the players who are so very lucky to be wearing our clubs proud co;ours

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Same fans who hailed Mowbray as we won the league for the first time in 88 years, got to Wembley in successive seasons, were top goalscorers in successive seasons, a better record than our other prem managers and the second most winning Albion manager of all time and has had to try to compete on a budget much lower than other prem teams and who we all acknowledged finishing one off the relegation zone would be a success this season and we are just one win off that, with more ‘winnable’ games left than nearly all our rivals.

I’m with the Real Bully Hoo.

No better than the goldnblack down the road.

If the pathetic reaction of some like that are here succeeds and you get TM the sack you can shove my season ticket where the sun don’t shine!

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Losing the faith or lost the plot ?
Please Tony, tell the players the truth, THEY WERE EMBARRASING, not only to us the fans but to themselves, you have to lay most of the blame at the managers door as he picks the players and tactics and tells them how to play, but the players are the ones on the pitch not mowbray.
Blaming Carson is unfair, a goalkeeper is only as good as his defense and if that is crap what else can you expect him to do, I for one cant fault him for being bloody nervous everytime he gets between the posts and sees the 4 muppets in front of him. Defence too needs protection from the midfield, its job is to both aid defence and attack, if it is as bad as ours then we can do neither, so we will keep losing every week until Tony accepts that it needs sorting and pretty sharpish.

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Yes it was an unforgivable display against Fulham but don’t forget they have the 2nd best defense in the league behind Man U. We all have off days and unfortuneatley all 10 outfield players had one at the same time. So lets stop doing what the dingle fans do best down at the custard bowl and demand that we sell/sack everyone. The main problem I feel is that Mr Peace will not spend any money I think he is preparing for the Championship. Tony was promised £7 million to buy Thompson & meet Trejvo(sorry if spelt wrong)buy out clause, so what has happened to that money? My personal opinion is if we sack Tony who is going to want to come and take over, probably some Premiership has-been or an up and coming nobody. We need to keep the faith and believe we will come back stronger and better. The glass is half full not half empty. Boing Boing

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Regardless of where we are next season we will all still be there whoever the manager is.
We have to give Mowbray our support, we may not like what he is doing but he’s the manager and needs to do it his way. He may not always get it right but I’m sure when he picks the team to go out and do battle for us he believes they can do the job. Sometimes he will get it wrong even Fergie makes mistakes. I like the fact that he is getting in youth and not players with a few years left he is looking to the future and building for the future not just today. We should back that unless you want to go back to the likes of Bryan Robson!!!!

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Mowbray has lost his players. The respect isn’t there for him neither is the respect for each other. He only took them on holiday so he could win their hearts and minds back. Fell for that one big time!

Carson was man of the match. If it wasn’t for him it would have been a cricket score.

My only positive from the trip to Fulham was a nice couple of pints of London Pride.

Championship beckons, and, quite frankly, I’m looking forward to it.

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I do want Mowbray to manage us – I’m just not sure he’s up to it. Similar to Brian Robson. I’d love nothing more than to see us stay in the top flight and play good football – but how good actually is our football? we create little, score few and are consistently out-passed and out-classed by teams around us.

Who could’ve seen the Fulham game and said they won because they wanted or scrapped more than us? They played better football, had more class and quality in decisive areas i.e. up front and in midfield (nevermind goal keeper!) Who from our team / squad could get in the Fulham team?

If / when we go down it won’t because we play football it’ll be because we can’t stop teams scoring enough goals to comfortably beat us EVERY WEEK!!!

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How can anyone compare Tony Mowbray and Alex Ferguson.
Ferguson commands his players respect AND he shows shedloads of PASSION!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Lets see how Swansea do against Fulham tonight,they have good young manager in,i think his name is Martinez,i,ve heard it said by some he might do a job at WBA.

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33,alexwhere did you get your london pride,we paid over 4 quid a pint n it was like dishwerter,aye boing boing fairy liquid

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On the basis of the last 2 years we must give TM another chance to establish us in the prem.The success and entertainment hes delivered deserves our continued backing.Yes the poor transfer activity this season does raise ??? but how much is this down to financial restraints?

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Bully, please stay, we need you.

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Fans are rightly expressing their disappointment, personlly I found Sunday an embarrassment. We are all looking for scapegoats, TM, the coaches, JP but really we all have the same reasons to be upset. I am sure that we all believed that this season would be different. Think of the players who represented us in the Prem in the past. I would not like to name them but we all know who the are. We looked at the squad and thought that with a few additions they would be good enough. JP came up with a few bob and if TM could unearth a few more Koren`s then all would be well. Sadly we have signed players for a lot of money by our standards who are just not good enough, Moore, Valero Beattie, Kim etc. TM says judge him on his team and yet the only “automatics” in my team would be Robbo(for all his faults) and Greening, neither bought by TM. We are all expressing our collective disappointments in different ways but really all we require is a bit of fight and commitment and then if we ain`t good enough, so be it.

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Same old problems all year nice tip tap going forward.
But no strength in the team particular in the centre of midfield and centre of defence crucial arareas inept centre halfs making schoolboy errors week in week out. Its not looking good

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we need to get rid of valero robinson barnett metie and fortune and put in mulumblu cech donk pele and when hes fit olsson and bednar

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37 Jeff.
I presume you are referring to me. If you read what I said you will find that I merely alluded to the fact that early in his career many of the airheaded Man Ure fans were calling for Fergies head. I did not say TM is the new Sir Alex, just that if we sack him we will never know will we? Just like Man U could have listened to the knee jerk brigade and sacked him. Understand?

45 Malvern.
Thanks but I doubt many on here would agree at the moment.

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Well, I feel better after my explosion on a previous post. At least there are those who want TM to stay, regardless. And I’m with them. Totally. I do have a little worm eating into my brain though. Many moons ago I used to take a very keen interest in boxing. Boxers went away from temptation to train, out in the woods usually. The best trainers always made sure they ‘peaked’ for the fight and DIDN’T OVERTRAIN. What I saw on Sunday gave me the impression of stiff limbs, in other words, they froze. The timing goes, the flexibility with it, the quick reaction time out of the window. That isn’t so obvious with the goalkeeper so he was fine. It’s my suggestion to help because you all know we can, and have, played much better than that. They looked and were jaded. Are they therefore superfit or super-stiffed? (I did want to use a different word but E&S give us a good bit of leeway).

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we’ve become predictable 2 most teams, we can’t break through the big defensive teams because there isn’t enough pace our power in midfield.we play like a spanish team but without the right players, we dont get enough men in the box when you’ve got chris brunt on the pitch. and our defensive play all round is woeful and embarrasing. marek cech should be playing wenever he’s played his creative steams forward and he was a regular at porto till he got injured so he’s obviously talented, even play him on the left wing. still 2 b positive we still have a chance, just hope we can get greening and olson and the new signings keep us up.

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WELL THE PLAYERS DONT CARE,THEY WILL JUMP THIS SINKING SHIP.SIGHNED TO MANY LIGHT WEIGHTS KEPT TO MANY HAS BEENS,AND PLAYERS THAT DONT CARE,ROBBO IS THE LAST OF A DIEING BREED OF FOOTBALLER,HE CARES WEARS THE SHIRT WITH PRIDE LIKE ANDY JOHNSON,ITS SAD WE HAD IT ALL WONCE,WE COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN WHERE MAN U ARE NOW,PITY THE CLUB HAD NO AMBITION THEN AND HAVE NON NOW,WHY BOTHER BITCHING THE CLUB DONT CARE ABOUT US ,DONT LISTEN,IF YOU ALL FEEL LIKE THIS SHOW THE CLUB BY STAYING AWAY I STILL HAVE HOPE WE WILL SURVIVE,IL STILL BE THERE AND GO DOWN WITH THE SHIP I SUPPOSE,BUT WILL I HAVE A LIFE BOAT AND LOG TO FLOAT BACK UP TO THE TOP AGAIN NEXT SEASON?DOUBT IT.WAY THE THINGS ARE GOING THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME I SEE MY BELOVED CLUB

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Lets be honest did we really expect anything
different at Fulham ? They have one of the best
defence records and have only lost once at home.
Sadly TM wont put a tackler in midfield so like
the Newcastle game we gave them the freedom to
continue exposing our jelly of a defence.
Lets ditch the pretty passing and launch it
forward to Fortune and Simpson.

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TM has said on many occassions he works for the Football Technical Director who handles all transfer activity. I understand the Technical Director was promoted from Youth Team Coach. You have to question his experience for such a role at this level or was he promoted because he is a ‘yes’ man to the Chairman? TM is taking all the critism for the players brought into the club, but what I would like to know if they were TM’s choice or the Technical Directors ?

Unfortunately the Chairman has made sure he now owns the club lock stock & barrel( & it didn’t take him long to put it up for sale again once he had eliminated many of the remaining shareholders). This season has been a disaster with both supporters & players having given up. Just look at the lack of fight in the last two games. How different from the ‘Great Escape’ season. A review of club policy & ‘what went wrong’ needs to be carried out at the end of the season, relegation or otherwise. All parties including remaining shareholders & supporters should be involved & the conclusions & recommendations made available to supporters. It wont happen, when did you last hear anything from the Chairman?

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37 YRS SEASON TICKET HOLDER.ITS NEVER BEEN EASY FOR US AT THIS LEVEL BUT HEY GIVE TM TIME.LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN WE KEPT CHANGING MANAGERS IN THE 90S.MAN U AND FERGIE ? STICK WITH TM, GREAT BLOKE AND GREAT PRINCIPLES. KEEP THE FAITH WE AINT A BIG CLUB-YET

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i watched game in bar in kolkata, it was embarrassing. indians and chealsea fans might know sod all about football but they got it spot on when they said we are crap

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What a difference 12 months make? Mowbray was the best thing since Cyrille pulled on the No 9 shirt, and now he is no longer fit for office.
Mistakes yes, naievity yes,punching above our weight yes, worth the sack NO!
We have a chairman who doesnot want to invest the money that other clubs do, and expects the manager to cope with that scenario. TM knew the brief when he took over.
Valero has yet to prove he has what it takes, and yes he cost a packet.But Koren didnt, Tex didnt. Not everyone you sign will be world beater. I am sure that Valero will come good, he probably needs a confident team around him, just like alot of the others!!
I was at Fulham, and i too was embarrased at our performance. But the fat lady is only warming up. I posted pre season that a championship manager told me that TM had 10 million budget, wages inc. I laughed thinking it was a wind up. I am not laughing now.
I still believe TM is the man, and if we do get the R we will bounce back.
I think we would struggle to attract another manager better than what we have. JP has a reputation to uphold!!
In Mowbray we trust!!!!!!!!!

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Come on TM.
You and your backroom staff have enough defensive experience between you to educate our players.
If thats what going out two the sun does for the players they should have had a week down the salt minds.
Get marek cech in he was brilliant when he was picked and was star man.
Nearly ever goal we let in comes from robinsons left side of the park
we need to get rid of valero robinson barnett put in mulumblu cech and get metie and olsson
fit
each player should be running themselves into the ground for the team and fans take a good look at Hull City players that what its all about.

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Most fans want you to stay TM.so why dont you admit your mistakes and listen to them sometimes,has much as i like robbo,most of us think Cech should have a proper run otherwise we will lose him,at a loss,there are at least four of your favourites who are hopeless and shouldnt be playing

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74. No hope No class No sponsor NO HOPE, stop clutching at straws you ain’t good enough for the championship let alone the prem, you’ve been well and truly found out for what you truly are a very poor team with the most two faced Fickle fans i’ve ever seen, steptoe’s the fat bird is in full song. bong bong singing

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How can a Dingle honestly talk about another clubs lack of class? We don’t call you Dingles for nothing you know,and the majority of the football league would agree.
We haven’t been good enough this season, the way we have been playing suggests we won’t get out of trouble but we have still got a chance.
Until then stay on your own forums arguing amongst yourselves you stupid pie munchers.
Oh yeah and I’d rather have a classy shirt with no sponsor on than a tacky orange one. Remember D.O.R.I.T.O.S?
Keep the faith, its easy to do when we are playing well; it’s times like this we need to stick together.
The Lord Is My Shepherd.

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And we don’t call you Tesco bags for nothing – Namely because that ‘classy sponsorless’ blue and white stripey shirt resembles one.. Classy? – Oh yes. :D .. ‘Pie munchers’ Lol… I’m sure all Wolves fans are just cut to pieces over that snippet of comic genius.

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Sorry Baggies fans. The other day I said some of you were as bad as Wolves fans. Thanks Jwolf and 1877 for proving me wrong.

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