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Shackell’s back at Norwich
Tuesday 10th February 2009, 11:36AM GMT.
Wolves have allowed defender Jason Shackell to return to Norwich on loan for the rest of the season.
The £1million August capture from the Canaries goes back to Carrow Road having made just four starts for the Championship leaders.
He has seen his chances decrease further with the arrival of £2.3million centre-back Christophe Berra from Hearts, with 34-year-old Jody Craddock also preferred to the 25-year-old against Norwich last week.
It was a meeting between Shackell and new Norwich boss Bryan Gunn during that 3-3 draw that sown the seeds for the move.
Gunn said: “It’s fantastic to have him back. I bumped into him at Molineux last week, realised that he wasn’t a part of (Wolves boss) Mick (McCarthy)’s immediate plans and it was an opportunity to bring in a quality player, in an area of the pitch we need to get cover.
Shackell added: “I saw and spoke to the gaffer last Tuesday and I’m obviously happy to come back to a place I know so well. I want to play games and it’s a good opportunity for me.”
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When are you going to buy a defender that can actually play for Wolves Mick?
What a waiste of time. Suppose he will get a game though then we will bring him back to sit on the bench with Hill and Friend…and probably Berra as Neil Collins will see to that.
What a joke!
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Was he really given enough opportunities for us to see how good/bad he really was???
Hope we’ve got someone (Mancienne) line up as a repacement.
Up the Wolves!
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How can we sign a guy for 1mil not play him and them send him back to the club we got him from?
surely we must of known he wasnt good enough from the start!
actually feel bad for the guy as he was not given any opportunity.
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Worth remembering how lucky we are to have Steve Morgan bankrolling our Club well beyond its means.
McCarthy has wasted pots and pots of money on players who have little or no residual value and have signed hugely expensive long term contracts.
Another Million (plus wages sign ons etc) down the drain… or the revenue from 3000 season ticket holders on one player.
Next time someone says ‘get your cheque book out Morgan’ on here etc ..remember – the numbers just dont add up
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wat a joke waisted talent,mick never given him a chance he is well better than collins and craddock,just dont understand why we let this to happen we am struggling at back and let him go,joke
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Unbelievable!
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feel sorry for him, i actually rate him, but hopefully this can free up some wages for mancienne!!
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it is bad that he didnt get an oppurtunity but i suppose we don’t see what happens at the training fields… although saying that he has to be better than Collins surely haha! I just hope Mick gives Berra a better chance to prove himself! i would like to see Mancienne back here but would he fit in now with Berra and Stearman in the centre??? Stearman isnt doing a bad job, few mistakes here and there but overall a quality defender and to pay over 2million for Berra he has to be good so could it work??
UP THE WOLVES!
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To all those who say he wasn’t given a chance – did you ever actually see him play? I saw him in two games and he was dreadful in both. Add that to the away game at Norwich where we conceded 5 and he looks pretty unimpressive.
MM watches him in training every day and considers he’s not good enough. That being the case, I’m glad he’s going back.
Obviously a very bad buy in the first place, but all the talk of ‘not had a chance’ is nonsense.
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Another one of MR McCarthy super deals. Bit like Eastwood eh! Wonder how many more clangers this excuse for a manager is going to make. Still it’s not his money is it.
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Norwich will have paid a loan fee for him as well as taking over his wages, I also think at the end of the season they’ll buy him back as it just ain’t worked for him at Wolves
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You can’t blame him wanting to go back to Norwich if that’s the only way he’ll get regular first team football,obviously he was’nt getting it here.Why waste best part of a million,if your not going to play the lad Mick.We’ll be lucky to recoup half of that now if we sell him back on.Just more money mad Mick has wasted at the club…
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He was always ever going to be a fringe player. However, I do agree that he had few opportunities to impress due to Mick’s selection policy (if anyone can fathom that out). Less chance of getting Mancienne back now that Scolari has been sacked, Wilkins will not be allowed to make major decisions, especially on player’s movements. Another different Centre-back pairing at Burnley? Craddock and Berra, Stearman needs a rest.
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RoynReanie can you please list all the player we have spent money and then next to that player put a estimate on how much they are worth now or how much the papers have said they would be sold for? i would be intersted to see your theory proved? as i recon i can work out at least 5 players in our squad 4 of which MM brought for between 25k – 750k that are worth at least 3-6m +.
another negative knee jerked opinion!
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So let me get this staight.
We have payed 1 MILLION for a player who only played 4 matches in a wolves shirt then we send him back to them ???????????????
How about asking for some money back ? lol
And we wouldnt up our bids for Manciene ??
TOTAL joke Mick.
Wasnt he there player of the season last year ?
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McCarthy you dont know your a**e from your elbow. Please prove me wrong and bring in mancienne, blues are looking at the guy from portsmouth. Are they in a different league to us? Why cant you ship collins out? and keep guys who do have summat sorry forgot your ego gets in the way
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YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.
YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING.
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RoynReanie are you a wind up merchant? So i take it that….Kightly,Stephen Ward, Ebanks Blake, Elekobi, Stearman, Henry, Foley, Vokes, Keogh, Iweloumo, Jarvis and I could go on are a waste of money and where worth purchasing on the cheap and extending there contracts? you make me laugh at your throw away comments because you can count on one hand the poor signings that Mccarthy has made and for whatever reason Shackell was one that did not blend into the framework of the team. Just be glad that we are not Chelsea throwing money at ageing players in the hope of some silverware.(Oh we tried that a few years ago didnt we!) Yes we are struggling at the moment but we are still top and need to rally around the young team and ensure we stop the rot starting with saturdays game. And in case you didnt figure it out a long term contract means that if for whatever reason we have to sell then we get more money for them.
I’m going for a lie down.
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Oh well, it was only a miliion quid and there is plenty more where that came from, eh Mick?
Anyone would think we are still a moneybags club instead of making wise purchases for the benefit of the team!
So with Shackell gone, does this mean we are about to sign a decent loan player and 1 who will strengthen the team and add quality to the defence OR are you ‘happy with the squad’ as it is Mick? – if you are, you’re the only 1 because most of the fans are not!
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Sir Jack should give a transcript of his ‘Golden Tit’ speech to Steve Morgan after these past two weeks…We subsidise Norwich by giving them £1 million, AND the player they sold to us.
And we sell Mark Davies to Bolton for £750,000 (figure quoted from Bolton director, not Jez Moxey), who is 20, and will probably make Bolton millions, irrespective of any sell-on clauses.
Time to wake up Morgan, it’s your money down the drain
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Good luck to Jason back at Norwich. He isn’t the first Million pound player who hasn’t quite done it at the Mol, nor will he be the last.
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Thank God for posters such as Bristolwolf. I really do despair with the posts on here, there must be a large number of baggies fans with FAR too much time on their hairy hands.
Sometimes transfers don’t work out. It was only a few weeks ago that posters where clamering for us to sign ANY centreback. Would people prefer he is left to rot playing the odd friendly? And as for people mentioning Eastwood?!?!? I think Freddy has proved Mick was correct in his judgement. ( Looks like a great bit of business to get 1 million for him now!)
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20,dont think so mate mick thinks collins and craddock r good enough,face it peps mick is losin the plot big time
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MM is the number 1 tinkerman nobody other than Collins is given long enough to cement a regular place so the pressure is so high to perform quickly. Im not sure Shakell was good enough in the first place and the jury is still out on Berre also. As a solid defender you would have thought MM would at least got the central defenders playing well and until he does we will not build on our goal difference. Oh for the day when we can string 2 or 3 clean sheets together maybe Shittu can help or the others that will follow until we get a settled back 4!or a new manager if we dont go up.
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he was never given a chance and no matter how bad he was in the 4 matches he did play in surely he has got to be better than collins who has been bad in every game he has played in. collins is costing us a trip to the promise land, along with MM not picking our only other striker that scores, what has Vokes got to do to get into the side.
more money wasted. but let all be honest if we do go up apart from foley (and maybe berra, haven’t seen him play yet) everyone else has got to be sold and new players brought in cause none of them are prem quality
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Like I have said before I think you could pick a few bad ones that Alex Ferguson has signed! You can’t alway get it right and IF Mick was as stubborn as you lot make out he’d play him anyway if he had spent a million wouldn’t he???? No logic in a lot of these arguments is there when you think about it?
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Why oh why… shouldn’t we be loaning IN defenders rather then out? ridiculous.
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Steve Morgans Moneys not down the drain, we’ve recouped most of what we’ve spent in selling players !
Its just a good job it isnt his money or he’s proberly be goin mad now !!
Cant believe Micks gone from puting a good side togethers with shrewd signings palying week in week out as a team
to
Signing players and not playing them and chopping the team EVERY week as if he’s really not sure who to play at all.
OH WELL still many games left so at match days i’ll STILL sing my heart out and cheers them on.
co mon me babies !!!!!!!!!!!
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I grow so weary of the majority of you prats who call yourselves Wolves fans. Sure, Shackell didn’t get a run in the team, but when our centre-back pairing was playing well at the start of the season, it made no sense to change it, and now we’re at the business end of the season and scrapping for every point we can get, he’s been ABYSMAL whenever he’s had an opportunity. He made Preston’s Sam Parkin look like Torres! Let him go, he’s clearly not going to make it at Wolves and there’s no way in Hell he’d get a look-in if (touch wood) we find ourselves in the Premiership next season. McCarthy is doing an excellent job and is the first to admit when signings don’t work out by getting rid at the earliest opportunity (Eastwood, Elliot, Potter, Ward, Johnson, McIndoe).
For Christ’s sake, it’s whingeing idiots like half of the people posting above who are going to contribute significantly to the wheels coming off this promotion campaign. On Saturday afternoon at the Ricoh we hadn’t played two minutes when a bunch of ‘fans’ behind me started slating our defence and midfield. Absolutely deplorable behaviour.
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Terrible decision.
I wake up this morning to see that Shackell has gone, and Keogh signs a new contract. What the hell is going on??
I saw Shackell play against Swansea at Molineux and he showed that match that he is a quality defender and was well worth the £1m. Not given a real chance to shine in the back 4.
Mick – stop wasting Wolves money.
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Usual story. Why not play him instead of stearman who is racking up the mistakes at a rate of knots. Oh i forgot, heis another of the untouchables – ward, collins, henry hennessey. Keogh is like miller, great workrate cant score. your face fits or it doesn’t. good luck to shackwell – at least he will get a chance now!
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Can’t see why everyone’s so negative – he goes to Norwich & plays competitive football (whilst they pay some/ all of his wages) which means that if we do need him due to injuries etc he’ll probably be sharper & more match fit than if he stayed at Compton & played reserve matches. If he eventually goes back to Norwich…such is life; I’d expect us to get a fee for him of some sort. he might even come bacl to Wolves as I doubt that Craddock will stay for next season & we’ll still need squad players.
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Think about this he is only going on loan. He will be getting first team football. Playing every week hopefully regaining some form. If we need him we can recall him. Its a win win situation. They pay his wages while he gets fit.
We can’t play every defender. The current pecking order is about right.
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Well!! It goes to show what a bunch of Idiots are running our club.
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manchester wolf since when has hennessey been a so called untouchable? i thought he was drop most of november and december!!
yet again another knee jerk reaction
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We must be mad paying £1million for a player then letting him go back on loan when we are in need of defenders.
I think the best we can hope for this season is a play off place, Mick McCarthy team selections in last few months have been bizarre to say the least.
I hope that I am wrong but we look like we are heading for a fall.
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I’m less concerned about Shackell going than I am about the club giving my long held seat to someone else next season, moving me to a worse seat and charging me more for the privelige.
Are they picking on me personally or has anyone else been offered a downgrade for more money?
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Mick Out
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35 and 39 well said,just wiat for all the muppets to start giving u stick,but dont worry they dont want this club to go nowere like mick
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Never given a chance and Shackell is better than Collins (who gets a 4 year deal) any day! He’ll be selling Hill and Friend next, what a joke! Mick needs to be accountable for all these pointless signings. Get us up and then get out. I wouldn’t trust him to spend any Morgan’s millions in the prem!
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get out mick, this is getting beyond a joke
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Could not agree more with SteveVERT WHY O WHY do so many slag Mick and his team off at every oppertunity? Seems most wolves fans have a poor memory look were we were before MM absalute shambles,now look at us top of the Championship team full of YOUNG talented players most will be playing or are in the squads for the International games tonight.
There will not be to many teams who go unbeaten as they march towards the Prem inc Blues and Reading.I for one have never looked forward to games with such excitment??
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v borough was awful, a good stopper but not much else, too clumsy.
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RAFO THE EXPERT ON CENTRE HALVES??? WEVE LET SOMEBODY GO WHO WE SHOULDNT HAVE SIGNED IN THE FIRST PLACE.COULDNT LACE CRADDOCKS BOOTS
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Small potatoes compared to the Robbie Keane fiasco.
Mick doesnt waste anytime off loading if he doesent rate them.
Just to re-ittererate No.1s comment…..
Bye.
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19.
I think you’ll find that SEB and Kightly were both bought on other peoples recommendations and not because Super Mick spotted any talent.
And also , Henry IS crap. Our midfield is dreadful and that’s why we are struggling.
Stephen Ward is also not good enough, and ys, Keogh is crap too, as of course, is collins.
As soon as the new man comes in, which hopefully he will next year, they will all go.
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stop bloody moaning,you are all doing my head in!!Burnley away massive massive game that all that matters now nothing else but one game at a time till the end of the season.Im not happy about everything but we must support the youngest team in the division!!!And give them as much help to prove everybody wrong.
We are Wolves
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i had my earlybird renewal through the post last night and i thought i would read some comments on here about people not renewing or renewing.
but i forgot you all listen to the radio dont you.
Why dont we support our team not slag them off, lets sing them to the premier league
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I wonder if most of you saw him play, he was awful. And for people having a go at Mic, I have one thing to say….We Are Top Of The League! say We Are Top Of The League! Look at the league, look what MM HAS brought in for peanuts…SEB, Jarvo, Kights etc and get off his back. Go and support Cov where your beloved talisman Eastwood is banging them in.
If you cant support your team when they are top then you need to go down the road, maybe you would prefer watching the Baggies at the bottom of the prem, what about Walsall mid table league 1?
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to the person who posted number 30 I would respectfully suggest its the poor form of some players and the insane choices of the manager that are derailing our season not the fans who pay large sums of money into the club.
If you dont like our fans toddle off somewhere else !
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Shackell, has not been given a chance and the fair thing to do was to send him out on loan, to improve the players own morale.
He won’t get a game at Wolves, that’s football and we all move on.
I have been studying the goals we have conceded of late and i believe that Hennessy, is the player most at fault for conceding goals. he is making poor descisions, coming off his line and making poor attempts at stopping goal scoring situations. He is not commanding enough with the back 4 and leaving us in disaray.
He will be a good goalkeeper in a few years but he needs to toughen up a bit and become more of a man and a talker on the pitch.
Find a Goalkeeper that can command the back 4 and we will stop making silly mistakes.
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45,be quiet u low hiller,another thick fan well if u am a fan
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Well I’m renewing my early bird that’s for sure. TBH I don’t think we’ll see Shackell in a Wolves shirt again. Another Freddy Eastwood, just hasn’t fitted in.
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Well said BristolWolf and giblets ! Too many negatives all the while from many on here. If anybody has seen Shackell play for us,they would know that he has NOT been good enough in those games and is clearly 4th choice at Centre-Half at best.He was,clearly,a bit of a ‘panic buy’ right at the end of the August window after bids for Berra had failed and Craddock had got injured V Sheff Wed. The subsequent loan signing of Mancienne confirmed that ! Yes – a bad buy by MM,which happens (even to the likes of Alex Ferguson) but overall his transfer business has been very good.Kightly,Jarvis,Ebanks-Blake,Foley etc have all improved the team no end…..and they have increased hugely in value.Remember what he first inherited after Hoddle ?? The ones he’s sold have hardly set the world on fire either – Eastwood,Olifinjana,Johnson ???
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again feel sorry for a guy that has never realy been given a chance we cannot give a real opinion he only started four games and came with a good CV from last season. MM must go the man is a complete plonker, Dont blame Moxey if it wasnt for him we would be in finacial ruin again and he doesnt pick the team our man MAD MIKE DOES . MM OUT.
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I feel for him as he has not been given a chance, what did we look at before we bought him?!?!? Also no 25 – the jury is still out on Berra – he has played 1 match for gods sake! I think he will be a good player for us & maybe skipper soon too!
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NICK THE GREEK !! totally agree as usual.
by anychance are you the same nick the greek who sits in the southbank middle level with the goals
i used to sit next to a stocky short guy called JOHN and next to him a 7ft tall guy called Martin !
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what a load of whingers! call yourselves supporters! support the team, get behind them, we are TOP OF THE TABLE. If we don’t go up then we can complain! COME ON YOU WOLVES!!!!!!!
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A large proportion of the comments on here are truely a sad reflection on the fan base of our club (or the ones too tight to buy a copy of the E&S)
If only you had an ounce of intelect you would realise how pathetic your little comments make you sound.
The most abitious comment mearly reflect name calling or plucking whatever bits of misinformation out of the air to use in a pathetic attack on the management.
Fact – we are top of the league and stand the best chance of promotion in years
Fact – A proportion of the fans are that ignorrant that they expect us to walk the league without ever having a dodgy run
Fact – They blame this ignorance on others, as it is too much for them to comprehend that they have failings themselves
Before you voice your opinion try reading it back to yourself and thinking about it – because honestly most of the time you just make yourself sound like the idiot that you most probably are
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Cheers Mick!!
glad shacks has come back as didnt want him to go in the first place!! doesnt look like you gave him much of chance though!
you can always swap him for Gary doherty!! please
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46) Great minds think alike Jack. Did not see your post on this but I have just posted on the Keogh article and could not agree more.
WHAT A BUNCH OF CLOWNS. THEY WERE OBVIOUSLY NEVER SUBJECT TO THE CHORLEY DEBACLE. THEY HAVE HAD IT TOO GOOD!
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richwolf64….wind up merchant go back to the Throstles boards
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Mick has made some bad judgments on players but it’s worth remembering
SEB £1.5million
Kightly £25,000
I’ve seen Shackell play whenever he’s had a game and he’s never made me feel he’s rock solid – good luck to you
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58) We used to sit in front of you. Brummie Rob and Phil proper supporters. You are talking about John Gregory and Martin Barnfield from Telford!
Nick is one of our away crowd.
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RoynReanie – what are you on about! lol. Thank god we got Morgan, bank rolling well beyond our means?!? – yes it might be a waste of money, but work out the sales and buys and before berra we were actually in profit.
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well said 15 & 19 totally agree
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Good luck to Shackell back at Norwich.
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I must say I’m very disappointed at the news Shackell has gone back to Norwich. Yes he wasn’t great in the few games he did play but to be fair to him he never got a run in the side to show what he could do.
Our back up, as it currently stands, for Berra and Stearman are Collins and Craddock. Collins simply isn’t good enough and never will be and Craddock I’m afraid has seen better days.
McCarthy needs to pull a few rabbits out of the hat in the loan market to freshen the team up particularly in central midfield and possibly another centre back as competition for Stearman and Craddock. Also well done Keogh on your new contract. Unlike quite a few on this board I do like Keogh and I think he will improve if the Boo boys get off his back.
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I am so glad we have money to waste!! Are we that Rich then? What a waste of money!!!
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Means we are getting somebody in I really do hope it is gabbidon or mancienne, somebody to play left back because ward gets caught far too often out of position
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This means (and I cant understand why)in MM’s opinion Collins is better than this guy. The player has not been given a chance.Disgraceful!
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There are THREE articles on this site. The Shackell debacle, The Keogh debacle and the Quashie fairy story. They all prove to me and I would say many many others that Mr McCarthy has lost the plot. Not that I thought he had one, but, as a manager, he would make a good refuse collector. No offence to r4efuse colectors intended.
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64. Just a small point. He had nothing to do with the Kightly transfer. He will admit (and thats a first) he didn’t know anything about Kites. The ones he knows about fly in the sky!!!
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Not given a chance. Good solid defender who, if given a run, would not have let anyone down. Berra and Shackell would have been a very solid partnership at this level.
That is the word of the Reverend.
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Mick should have been in hte City of London-credibiliy crunch!
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you wolves fans make me lived we are top of the league with 15 games to go then we send a player out on loan back to his previous club who was not up to the job, with these comments on this site i hope wolves dont get prometed and it hurts me because you are not behind the club
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It’s OFFICIAL
MICK MCCARTHY HAS LOST THE PLOT!
1 win in 8.
2 DEFENSIVE Midfields on saturday which didnt work the last time Quashie & Henry played.
1Million pound player and he gets sent to Norwich where MM fully endorsed the 4 year contract to that Clown called Neil Collins!
Arms around Andy Keough and a 2 yr extension goes to his “putting in a shift ethic” rather than goals per ratio which is sub standard.
Mark Davies leaves wolves where he was offered a derisory contract!
Chopping and changing a side week after week as he clearly does not know his best line up.
Flitting away more or Morgan’s money!
Wolves are going the same way as Watford. MM managerial credentials are now being scruntised aswell as the business decisions led by Moxey.
What is happening to this season which promised so much…..
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There are some idiots on here – A new manager? Who? Let me guess Scholari!! We are top of the league you pratts. Go and support Walsall or West Brom. Idiots like you don’t deserve any success. Back the team and change the habit of a life time..
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Big Phil gone Mancienne back to the Mol no room for Jason, dont you get it!!!!!!!!!!!
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Don’t think MM liked the fact that Shackell refered to him as “he” in a recent interview when he was saying he’d waited for his chance, “He (boss Mick McCarthy) could always bring someone in and he’s still got Jody (Craddock).” Plus it assumed that MM would pick him, a fatal assumption, personally I was impressed a couple of years ago when we played Norwich I thought he stood out, MM hasn’t given him a chance which I find very strange. I believe MM pushed him to the edge and when he showed a lack of “respect” then that was it.
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10- shackell came on after 73 mins at norwich, 5 minutes after stearman had been sent off and we were down to ten men,
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I’m sorry but, I have to say I was speechless when I heard about this and even now I don’t want to believe it.
In my opinion Shackell is a good defender. He wasn’t Norwich’s Captain for nothing and us wolves fans are yet to see him at 100%.
I’m gutted to hear Mick has sent him back. Shackell hasn’t been given his fair crack of the whip and should be in our squad
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i’m always a positive commenter but i’m at a loss as to why we spend a million on him and give him very few chances to show what he can do, 4 games here and there is nothing, mmmmmm….freddie again??? how did mr. shackell upset MM? i must admit now that i am getting a little confused with mick’s selections and judgement…..but… i WILL be behind the team on saturday.
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nice 1 number 82, number 10 is a shining example of a “fan” that knows nothing about what he is saying, like a lot of others. research the facts about what you are going to say first ay??
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Most of you jokers on here make me embarrassed to be a Wolves fan!!! I was embarrassed at the Norwich game and these message boards are making my blood boil. We are top of the league u absolute idiots!!!! We have not had it so good in years. We are just going through a bad patch and we should all stay positive to help the club!!! I wouldn’t have liked to have been in a trench with some of you fools in a war!!! If we don’t go up I hope that some of you realise that with your mindless sarcastic clapping and negativity you have aided our down fall. I’m finding it very difficult to go to Wolves at the minute because there are lots of people letting there nerves get to them. MM has got us to the top of the league, he has signed us two fantastic wingers and our best natural goal scorer since SB, he’s got international & promotion experience and still you idiots think you know more than him!!!
GET A GRIP & SUPPORT THE CLUB, WE ARE ONE GOOD WIN AWAY FROM A GOOD RUN.
RANT OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Could this mean he is considering a loan move for mancienne. However I feel for Shackell he never had a good run in the team with how bad the defence has been he should of been given a fair crack tbh.
Norwich take 4 points of them and we give them a player well if they want him at the end of the seaon no losin’ money on him like Eastwood they should make shure they get the million pound back
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Wedenesbury Wolf you appear so wise-Whatever you are on give to MM.
This player was scouted and recruited when a member of our squad he does not appear to fit in-Well yes – not given much of a chance but do we really pay 1 million for a player who is-Captain of his squad-Player of the year twice at Norwich—We think he is that bad we are now sending back to a Club that put EIGHT past us this year.
I have to say MM is ridding his luck this is a fiasco and of course Mr S will come back to haunght us———My dream is alive but do not say MM is that good- We have had a good start to the season It is pity but I think his luck is running thin particularly after the last performances.
We need to pull ourselves to-gether stop rating this bunch of players at SUPERSTAR status-They are average players and MM needs to get them doing the basics.
Keep the dream alive–I really do hope we get there MR MM and Mr Moxey
Crazey Dave.
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Ok we are still top of the league !!! Time to get rid of MM come on lets get rid of him……. GET A BLOOMIN GRIP will you! why sack the manager when were at the top of the table?? ok he makes mistakes were loosing games or coming away with a draw…. But we are still top. Yes things need to change here and there and MM surely knows that and so do the players and the board.
Nah that’s it just sack Muppet Mick and be done with it ehh… Yeah lets jump from the frying pan into the Fire!! and raffo and your crew you are a bunch of Muppets I don’t know why you bother your boring the life out of some people we need to give em support at the top if we were mid table I could understand but were not. Come On Wolves
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Hi Bill, thanks for your response. I have plenty of time for fellow Wolves FANS, and would also acknowledge in response to your comments that the poor form of certain players and team choices by McCarthy and his management team DO contribute significantly as well.
What frustrates me is that, as many above me have pointed out, everyone must surely agree that we’re better placed to win promotion than we have been for years and if it doesn’t happen this season it’s reasonable to assume that we will be forced to sell some of our brightest young talents (namely Hennessey, Kightly, Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, and possibly Stearman). If that happens, we’ll be set back a number of years before we can mount another promotion challenge.
So why why why can’t the fans just unite and get behind the team no matter what? If a player’s having a great game, cheer him. If a player’s having a poor game, cheer him LOUDER. Coax a better performance out of players by vocally supporting them, not slagging them at every opportunity.
As a season ticket holder for nearly 20 years, I have no intention of toddling off, and if home truths are hard for some ‘fans’ to read, perhaps if they who should toddle off.
Respectfully.
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OK so Mick has made a ‘pigs ear’ of this one – but to those accusing him of being clueless in the transfer market and costing the club millions I would simply ask you to review the following list; Foley,Stearman,Elokobi,Kightly,Jarvis,Ebanks-Blake,Vokes,Iwelumo.
Enough said.
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what a joke wish we could send you back muppet mick,shows how clueless you are pay 1m plus for him and give him 3/4 starts, i told every body when you came you where no good. now you have confirm my fears.
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Living in Norfolk I have a several mates who are Norwich fans. They thought 1m for Shackell was great business for a player who shone for a season and became very ordinary. I don’t know why he was such a long term target of MM and obviously when he had the lad to work with he soon realised he had made a big mistake. The only suprise is Norwich want him back, their fans don’t but they are skint and it’s yet another loanee.
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WELL DONE MAD MICK FOR A DEFENDER YOURSELF YOU SURE CANT PICK ONE. WOT A COCK UP OF THIS SEASON YOUR MAKING PLEASE SHUT THE DOOR ON WAY OUT IN MAY.
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People who criticise Mick’s overall transfer record should think again.I believe we would make at least £12million if we sold Jarvis,Kightly ,SEB and Foley.Far more than Mick’s total transfer spend.Shackell was Mick’s third choice in the summer behind Berra and Higginbotham.If Moxey had bid the market price for Berra in the summer we would not have spent the money on Shackell.
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#77 round
some fan you are – you don’t even know how many games we have to go! It’s 14 not 15! muppet
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All this about mancienne, i’d love him back but it just ain’t gonna happen. If we did get him back who would be dropped ? Stearman who cost 1.5 mil or Berra that cost 2.5 mill ?
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Mad Micks at it again,never given a chance yet another miilion down the drain.
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60,Mr Intellectual,Try checking your spelling before posting.
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NEWBRIDGE..Before you voice your opinion try reading it back to yourself and thinking about it – because honestly most of the time you just make yourself sound like the idiot that you most probably are.
THE PHRASE POT AND KETTLE COMES TO MIND THERE.
WHEN WE MISS OUT ON PROMOTION BY LOSING IN THE PLAY OFFS.. I CAN’T WAIT FOR YOU TO APPEAR AND START BIGGIN’ US UP FOR YET ANOTHER SEASON IN THE COCA COLA.
HOW SAD IS YOUR LIFE IF MEDIOCRITY AND DISSAPOINTMENT ARE REASONS TO BE CHEERFUL.
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What a crock of **** why buy players you just get rid off half a season later…this storey sounds suspiciously similar to that of Freddy Eastwood’s…another brain wave from thick mick!
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no wonder our friends up the road are always laughing at us we are a complete joke
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Does this mean we will be getting a replacement on loan untill the end of the season,I sure as hell hope so.
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Thank goodness we don’t play Norwich again this season! Not only would we concede a few goals, Shackell would ensure we don’t score many!
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We are doomed !
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32. If Wayne is one of the ‘untouchables’ why was he dropped forabout ten games after one mistake?
Secondly, I have no idea who this Shackwell character is.
Is that the scruffy one from Emmerdale?
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What an absolute disgrace.This guy has not even had half a chance,and he’s been sent back to Norwich.McCarthy has completely lost the plot.I’m starting to wish we don’t get promoted,’cos we will get annihailated in the Prem.It’s time for change.
COME BACK PAUL INCE.
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Mick, there is a warm up gig going at Cirque de Soleil wih all the other clowns. You have no idea what you are doing, go now, and let’s get someone with at least one iota of sense
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i’m afraid i have to agree with the majority. i rate him, he hasnt been given a fair run in the team. stearman has been poor, so why not have tried berra & shackell? if u have any sense jase ul stay there, cuz mick wont have you :(
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surely if any of you have been to matches and seen this bloke play you have to agree that he is crap and £1m wasted. i’m glad shackell’s gone back to norwich because from what ive seen of him so far he’s just not good enough, too slow,too clumsy and to say he’s not been given a chance is wrong,mick’s given him chances he just hasn’t impressed, much the same as d.ward (another £750k )although i’d rather have him back than shackell.when is mick gonna buy a cb with pace?
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No 66
If you believe we are in a profit on transfers then you are sadly deluded about the real world of business and football
My point (8) (which I concede I should have expressed better) is that we are lucky to be bankrolled to a point where Mick can make expensive mistakes such as Shackell AND be in the market for £2m plus players in the January Window.
Throughout January I got tired of reading post from idiots on here saying ‘Get your Chequebook out Morgan’, ‘Show you care’ ‘ I pay £xxx for a Seaon Ticket therefore etc etc’
2 seasons ago (pre Morgan) we were without a parachute payment and truly Potless. 22 seasons ago we were bankrupt and now are a lucky to still have a Club to even write about (Yes I was at Chorley… both times)
Lets be grateful that Mick can afford to make expensive mistakes in one Window and then in the same Season dive into the next Window and spend another £3m in fees, wages, sign ons etc to try again to fill the same position
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60. Intellectual Newbridge Wolf so clever try checking your spelling before posting.
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mad mick ;oops i did it again let a good player leave, didnt give him a chance ,its ironic that for all the problems we have at the back its the defenders that are leaving GRAY GONE , SHACKELL GONE, cant see shacks coming back unless norwich go down, dont worry mick we cud always play golden boy ward every week at the back out of position, CRADDOCK will pack it in soon & what happens if STEARMAN IS SUSPENDED OR FOLEY INJURED, CAN WE EXPECT BERRA TO CARRY THE WHOLE TEAM, PS MICK WE HAVE FRIEND WHO IS GOOD ,HILL IM NOT SURE OF YET
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Jason was never given a chance to play, let alone shine. He needed a run of half a dozen games in the team before anyone could make a proper assessment. Still, if you can’t dislodge Collins, your days are obviously numbered.
Wonder what Morgan makes of this riculous bit of business? Norwich must be laughing their heads off.
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pathetic,lazy,inept,thats the so called supporters, no ambition , no hope and pathetic backward looking lives , COME ON YOU WOLVES!!!!!!
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no111Roy Reanie, You are obviously not very good at maths.We played Chorley 3 times,Burnden Park,Molineux, and Deepdale. I just went to the one game,but I didn’t see you around.Which part of buying an asset worth millions for a tenner,don’t you understand?
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today will be started on a positive note, my players for the prem will be:
Scott Dann (cov)
Danny Fox (cov)
Lee Carsley (blues)
Adam Johnson (borough)
Michael Mancienne (chelsea)
Kasper Schmeichel (man city)
Seb Larrsson (blues)
Danny Gabbidon (westham)
Tom Huddlestone (spurs)
out:
S Ward
D Ward
Craddock
Hennessey
Henry
Vokes (loan)
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No 116
It was Burnden Park twice and I was at both ..hence I was ‘at Chorley both times’ as I said not just nipping down to Mol for the 1st Replay which is probably what you did
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anybody remember that survey a few years ago that wolves supporters were the most depressed and stressed out fans in the country only third behind tranmere and doncaster?? , i wonder why?
last major trophy 1980 league cup , maybe but i think they expect to win the champions league every year so their perfect personal lives would be complete , they blame everyone for everything mm ,moxey, morgan , the players , other supporters , the truth, forgive me if im mistaken, is that only five british clubs have ever been good enough to win the (european cup) champions league , celtic,man utd,liverpool,villa,forest , and the national team have only been good enough to reach world cup quarter finals 1990 apart from winning 1966 , 44 years ago , my point is unrealistic expectations are placed on players and teams , by everyone and when they fail, the blame game starts, to win promotion this season would be deserved even if lucky , to survive in the premiership, will require major investment,luck and a massive change in the way supporters think, 102. i dont think your friends up the road are laughing at us , they are crying because they are going to get relegated again . if top 3 win all thier remaining games 104 points/bham 102/wolves115 (refer to my earlier point about unrealistic expectations) . will and always have supported wwfc 100% ,
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“Truewolf”
If we do not start winning soon then the Prem is miles away-Your sermon is to some extent true-But with prices going up again next season-SURLEY we should expect value for our BUCKS-It is clear from this Blogg there is a mix of opinion–He we are again lets move onto the next FIasco– Be there -shout as much has you want but unless we invest in Class we are going nowhere thats the message even though Mr Moxey now says investing in Young Guns is for the future–The future is now Mr. Moxey please move on–Give us something to shout about
Crazey Dave–Faith alive keep it at the Top–Please Please—–Amen
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the timing of these contract renewals is bizarre. it sounds like we offering new deals to hide the fact we didnt sign anybody in transfer window.berra apart we didnt outdo ourselves, lets not kid ourselves if we dont get up how many of these lads will be here next season,with a recession looming and players with families etc if a big prem team offered money they wud be gone as would anybody,lets be honest contract these days not worth paper they written on , if a team offered 5mill for seb wud he say no. wud moxey say no , i dont think so
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Id like to know why when someone says something about “idiots” and “stupid comments” that Southbank readily goes on the defensive and answers……..Even when he isn’t named!!! hahahaha. PLANK!
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Anybody see this article??
While standing around at Molineux chewing the fat last week after the 3-3 draw against Norwich City, one of my colleagues mentioned a character he had invented called ‘Miserable Dave’.
Now Miserable Dave is a Wolves fan. He’s typical Black Country, just to paint a picture for you.
He’s a loyal, hard-working, knows the value of a pound – loves the Wolves. Okay? You can see where we are coming from.
He’s not always been known as Miserable Dave, though. Oh no. He’s only recently been saddled with the nickname.
Only in the last six months when Wolves began to surge clear at the top of the Championship.
Ever since then he’s been waiting for the bubble to burst in an ‘I-told-you-it-wouldn’t-last’ type of way.
So each match that is not accompanied by a three-point haul is met with a raise of the eyebrows and a puff of the cheeks.
It doesn’t matter to Miserable Dave that footballing logic dictates that very few teams outside of the affluent elite have the ability to go through a season without a blip along the way.
No. He knew it wasn’t going to last and he’s told you so.
It’s an understandable reaction.
You see, seven years ago Wolves were in a similar position, cruising towards the Premier League for the first time when the wheels began to fall off.
At first, it happened so slowly that you didn’t notice it.
I was actually there at Molineux on a sunny Spring afternoon when they lost 1-0 to Grimsby Town in a match they were expected to win comfortably.
There was none of this masochistic streak back then.
It was more a case of: ‘Oh dear.’ The overwhelming feeling was that Dave Jones’ team had accrued so many points that surely it was a case of when, not if, they were going to stroll across the finishing line.
Only Gary Megson’s West Brom had other ideas. You see, they kept winning and narrowed the gap until on the final day of the season, they clinched promotion at Wolves’ expense.
It was horrible for Wolves. It is the the thought of going through that hurt again that has made Dave miserable.
Dave doesn’t want to see the prize dangled before him for nine months, and then taken away at the last minute once again.
That’s understandable.
But by the same token, if you’d said to him at the start of the season – and don’t forget the bookmakers had made Birmingham City and Reading favourites for promotion – that Wolves would be six points clear of the third-placed side with about one-third of the campaign left to play, then he would have been happy enough.
What’s the difference?
It’s the expectation that is slowly eviscerating Wolves’ fans. That gut-wrenching feeling that it is happening all over again.
But it’s not. The situation is totally different. West Brom aren’t there for a start.
There’s a different manager and a young group of players that want to progress together.
It would be a shame if Molineux becomes gripped in the kind of fear that appears to be dogging ‘Miserable Dave’.
And that’s because the best way to garner these last nine victories would be to try and allow Mick McCarthy’s players to relax.
There was a joy during the first couple of months of the season when the team was playing with freedom.
They had different angles of attack and were a real handful, let me tell you.
Hopefully, the addition of Christophe Berra will plug a gap in the home defence that has never been truly convincing since the Paul Butler/Joleon Lescott partnership was broken up.
But please Wolves’ fans, don’t fill Molineux with apprehension. It won’t help. Honestly.
In the end it will all be worth it.
For the big grin on Dave’s face, if nothing else
Now lads and lasses, does this remind you of anyone?? or any group of people??
Sorry but this is spot on with Wolves fans at the moment!
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Dublin Wolf- great “blogg” enjoyed and I have to say if I am “Miserable Dave” then I am no longer-Your poetry made me laugh really-Great I like it.
I do not think I am that man BUT the antics of MM baffle me-Any teams success starts with a good defence -Have we seen that over the past games-No nowhere near-We will get up the faith for me is very much alive”
BUT ” I have nightmares” Remember KEEGAN ” You are 11 points up I will give it to you-you can have it” What happened ?- Remember…
Thanks for the blogg mate- You will know me I wear the Shamrock over the Wolves marker.
Crazey Dave-Still laughing–
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119 truewolves.why is it unrealistic for us to have expectations of getting promoted?we’re not walsall,tranmere or doncaster WE’RE WOLVES YOU MUPPET!a club the size of ours with our training ground,resources,wage bill,history,fan base and not to mention the millions spent over the years nobody’s asking to win the champions league. promotion is the minimum we deserve with the backing we and steve morgan give the team.were you there in the premier? if you were i don’t think you would of made those comms as all wolves fans got behind the team 100% as we all knew how hard a task it was gonna be to stay up so don’t come out with the garbage about us expecting to win the champions league.WOT AN IDIOT U ARE!
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