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Davies didn’t fulfil potential – Mick
Tuesday 27th January 2009, 12:30PM GMT.
Mick McCarthy admits he only ever saw “glimpses” of Mark Davies’ potential after the one-time Wolves wonderkid sealed his move to Bolton.
See also: The career of Mark Davies at Wolves – in pictures
But the Wolves boss insists he was powerless to prevent the 20-year-old midfielder leaving Molineux.
Davies signed a four-and-a-half year deal at the Reebok for an undisclosed fee, that it is believed could net Wolves £2million.
The eventual fee for Davies may make him the third most expensive export from the Wolves homegrown ranks after Keane at £6million and Joleon Lescott at £5million.
But unlike the other two deals, Wolves have secured a hefty sell-on clause. The former England youth captain was widely recognised as one of the best players in the country in his age group .
Yet he has been sidelined for much of McCarthy’s two and a half years in charge
The manager said: “I’ve seen glimpses of his ability – I think Oldham in the FA Cup replay (January 2007) was the last time he really contributed to the first team play.
“I let him go out on loan to get some games. But players decide where they want to be in the end. We wanted to keep Mark and we offered him a contract.
“It’s one of those unfortunate things – Mark’s not been fit for two years, so we let him go out on loan to get fit. He’s now produced some displays.”
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Another Nardiello with a bit of luck!
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I’m sure Megson will coach any football ability out of him. He can doss in the middle of the park and watch the ball fly over his head.
Let’s use his transfer money wisely and move on.
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stop this nonsence mccarthy!!!!!!
the fans are not idiots, you sent him back to leicester when he had proved his fitness and even allowed him to be cuptied. then the final straw was buying quashie!
you didn’t want him because you didn’t sign him!
unless its a gk, you don’t stand a chance unless mm signs you at this club!
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The only reason you saw glimpses was because you wouldn’t play him. He’ll now go one to do very good things and we will regret this day.
Well done Thick Mick
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Hang on a minute, I thought there is a sell on clause on the Lescott deal????
Lets face it he wont be staying at everton for very long.
If one wasnt put in then i be very surprised!
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The first thing Bolton will do is send him on loan somewhere. I doubt very much he will waltz into the first team.
So be it, i don’t think he will ever fulfill his potential.
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Who cares? If they haven’t got pride in the badge, if they aren’t committed to club and cause, then be gone!
So, now we have all this money. Don’t put it in the bank – give it to Chelsea and shore up our defence…
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A shame he’s chosen this course of action because he has got undoubted talent.If he doesn’t want to play for us,though,best to get rid and,if he does perform,get a sell-on fee when he moves on from Bolton when we pass them on our way up as they are coming down ! Surprised there is no sell-on with Joleon ??
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we have lost a good quality player, i do feel for those from MMs first season in charge. no doubts he will come back and haunt us
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another mistake MM, never mind has long as we hold on to the real quality, S ward Keogh Collins and Potter. This club are going backwards, no quality coaches or manager or owner.
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A lot of people keep knocking MM about this, but Davies was hardly ever fit to play whilst he’s been in charge. At the end of the day its Davies who deserves the criticism, talk about biting the arm that fed him. Worse than Ronaldo, at least he stayed at Man U… Judas!
Up the Wolves! 2-1 victory tonight!!
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Great Comment no 2-Go back to school-Mark never given space by MM probably because of his injury record-Megson paints a good outlook for Mark-We all know his potential–Wish him luck–Crazey Dave
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Thanks Davies.
Despite years of support from both fans and club alike you’d still rather turn your back on us and play for a mediocre club who won’t be in the prem for much longer.
Fair enough, you haven’t got the bottle to fight for your shirt so perhaps we’re better off without you after all.
Good riddance you prima donna.
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George Berry’s Yead
Well said mate – can’t think of a worse team to be a creative midfielder!! He’s had his strop – he’s moved on and so will we!
WMJ – on me way to Reading!
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Very disappoint with Davies, Wolves look after him for 10 years and the last 2 while he’s been injured and as soon as the money is flashed he moves on.
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right then … lets hope the judas carries on his remarkable run of injuries and lets take the lescott money and the davies money and some of the 30 million wer ve not spent yet and secure mancienne till the end of the season and if we go up …BUY HIM .
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George Berry’s Yead….That’s one of the most true posts I’ve seen regarding this guy.
Nail on the head.
Reading some of them you would think we’d just sold Ronaldo!!
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Keane-Lescott-Davies: we are a nursery club when it comes to our best players. Davies has been fattened up nicely for sale in the January window. MM never fancied him in comparison to such stars as Henry and Jones, and so never did see more than ‘glimpses’ of his talent. He could easily have made him feel a future star at Wolves. Maybe his judgement will prove right, and Davies won’t make it. But I doubt it. He has gone from League 1 to the Premiership at the age of 20, which tells you something. Very dispiriting.
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YorkshireWolves
Agree mate – given GBY’s comment I think I’ll be sending Davies a jar of sore neck cream as a settling in present! lol!
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“Manager Mick McCarthy has overlooked the midfielder in his first team plans” is the caption from one of your pictures. What a shoddy piece of journalism. Put some thought into it. He was injured during the Steve Bull testimonial game and when finally fit 2 years later MM sent him to Leicester to get some first team football under his belt. How on earth is that overlooking him. As usual the E&S don’t like to let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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I don’t blame the guy. Why was he not offered a new contract in the close season? I’m sure Moxey would have said if this was the case. How did Moxey allow his contract to run down like this? We have had no problem offering contracts to other players who’ve had injuries, eg. ndah. This is pure and simple bad business.
I think the reason is clear – another one with whom Mick’s got a problem and, more importantly, an inability to coach.
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According to Sky Sports News – Hearts have rejected a 2 million bid from Wolves for Christophe Berra.
Teams from Spain and Italy are interested so they’re obviously holding out for a lot more cash.
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Unfortunately we have only heard one side of the story so how some of the comments aimed at Davies are a joke. What we do know is even if MM only saw glimpses of his potential a premier division club is happy to take the word of our former academy top man. add that to his progress through the international ranks and I think his potential was obvious. Shame he felt he had to leave!
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Bolton fan here. We dont have a midfield, its by-passed with a big hoof upto the big lad. Spot on analysis Jerry the Berry and Wolfman. Megson as sold all the creative midfielders at the club, and no doubt will make Davis put in a good shift instead of being creative. See you boys in the Championship next year ;-)
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over rated.
£2million and we’re laughing (although I dare say the fee was closer to £1m with the rest based on appearances)
He was never going to make an impact at wolves, i think the most shocking thing about this is that Bolton believe he’ll make an impact there. This is a good move, i never liked bolton (mcginlay’s head-butt on ned kelly anyone??!) looks like megson is chucking their money away.
cheers
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After taking some time to think about Davies, too put a positive spin on the situation would be that Davies did us favour but still both parties can take some blame. The club or Mick seem to be trying to give a lad a bad name, of course the lad hasn’t help himself in that manner however he would of gone on a free at the end of the season and only leaving a possible compensation package for the club, so the best result has happened for both sides now we move on.
The concern I do have over this is where other home grown talents’ futures lie? Let’s take Daniel Jones as an example from last season: He had a great loan spell at Northampton, came back and only saw action from the bench, and then he was gone again? Will we ever see the Bennett brothers get a chance or Sam Winnall or Ashley Hemmings? I doubt very much.
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I’d like to wish Mark luck, but it just sticks in my throat. For 2 years Wolves have paid his salary and got him the best treatment we could, and as soon as we get him back to fitness he puts in a transfer request and clears off to play for a team who will surely be back in The Championship soon anyway.
MM never had the chance to really see what Mark could do and so this is no fault of his.
I find this whole episode disgraceful and hope he rots in Notlobs reserves
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Mick is doing a good job,but he doesn’t get everything right,like all of us.Can he honestly say he gave Davies a fair chance? I don’t think so.The real culprit of course is our CEO.Surely we should ensure our best prospects are tied up in long term deals. I do accept that this was not possible in the last two years especially when Davies was injured. In football terms the fans have lost tha chance to see an exciting talent,and in financial terms the club may find out in the next few years that they lost millions
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7. Whilst some posters have indeed decided that Davies could walk on water, I think the majority of people have simply expressed disappointment with a potentially good player leaving our books without, and this is a debatable point, being given the proper opportunity. Having nurtured the ‘talent’ ourselves, we are still more interested in buying in replacements that are MM believes to be proven or believes have better potential.
For example, assuming we got £1m (some web-sites are speculating just £650K) does just over £300K and David Edwards seem like a fair swap? Some would argue it does. I would have prefered to keep Davies personally, from what I have seen, but ho-hum, can’t have it all!
Just think once again we’re sending out the wrong message to the youth players. Tonight, how many home grown players will we have in the team? My reckoning is Hennessey is the only one – and he only joined us at 16.
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Mick says the last time he showed his potential was in the Oldham FAC replay. I was there and I can’t remember him playing!!!!
Great having ability but it is showing it you were paid for! Not got our money’s worth out of you so good riddance!
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What a joker!! Wolves spend all of this time developing him and this is what he does. Just proved how much he loved Wolves didnt want to come back & fight for his place or help the cause.
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wolves have bid 2 mil for berra
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I think the fee we have got in for him is a good bit of business. Hopefully he’ll go onto have a successful and injury free career but not too good a one :o))
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Do we really think we’re seeing the whole picture here and there’s not more to this story than has been disclosed?
He’s an England youth captain with rave reviews, gets a place in the team, got injured, got fit a couple of times and then mysteriously wasn’t selected and then has a shoulder injury, and then isn’t fit and we hear nothing at all for months, and then he goes out on loan, gets rave reviews and then is sold….. plain truth is, other than rumours in the pub, we’ll probably never know! Time to move on…..
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10. You are an idiot. He wasnt offered a new contract at the start of the season because he was suffering from a serious injury. How is this bad business?. And why do you think he hasnt played this season? Might it be because he’s been suffering from a serious injury? How is this bad coaching? If MM was considering spending £2m on a player with Davies’ injury record we’d be up in arms and rightly so.
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According to many, Davies has jumped ship. Many appear to believe he has no ability. M.M thinks he has shown no potential Then could some one tell me , on the evidence above, how many of the current set are selceted each week? Many thought Gibson of Man Utd who was on loan, was not up to much but he seems OK in the Man Utd set this year.
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if davies gets a game for bolton this will make the likes of jones. little, gleeson think there future could be elsewhere, might as well scrap the academy and just buy lower league players.
nothing against these players but we play, vokes, friend, edwards with no real experience at this level but send our home grown players out on loan to gain experience???
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some wolves fans do really make me laugh, how can you blame MM when he hasn’t been fit for 2 years? How can you disagree at sending him out on loan to get fit when he hasn’t played for 2 years? He wasn’t gonna walk into a TEAM TOP OF THE LEAGUE WHEN HE HASN’T PLAYED FOR 2 YEARS YOU MUPPETTS.He’s an absolute disgrace, glad he’s gone. He’s been quick enough to pick up a wage considering he’s been injured for ever.
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Some of you need to get your head out of your arse. The “undoubted quality” of Stephen Ward (You mean that guy whos done wonders at left back?), Neil Collins (Can you even recognise him from last season?), Andy Keogh (Do i even need to reaffirm how good a player he is. Fact is, the team we’ve got at the moment got us and kept us at the top of the table so far. That includes EVERYONE in the squad. They all have their part to play. Anyone still calling Mick Mccarthy thick needs to go support our dear rivals Birmingham. Theyll never recover.
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35 you talk crap look at the contracts given to Injured players in the past, never mind lets give potter a 4 year contract to go with the super stars Collins and Ward.
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You will hear very little about Davies in the future. He will vanish into obscurity.
Some people are like kids who want a toy because they have been told they can’t have it.
Move on he’s gone.
You could moan about Elliot at Preston he’s making his mark these days, or Potter the wednesday fans adore him. Bothroyd is liked at Cardif. Olyfinyana is despised by Stoke fans yet some people thought he was the dogs d’s.
This Davies thing is a joke we Fleeced Bolton over him.
Lets focus on Reading and the players that deserve our attention. Come on you Wolves
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I don´t know whether Davies is any good or not but he certainly seems injury prone . Leaving aside his disloyalty to a club who have nurtured him and supported him during is many lay offs I imagine his intelligence can´t be up to much if he chooses to go to Bolton . If ever there was a two bob club destined for relegation its it . Leave the judgement to MM .Look at the state of Wolves just two years ago .
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40. Have you seen Wolves play this season? Potter hasnt played, he’s currently on loan to sheffield wednesday to get match experience and will more than likely be sold to them. He was bought in Micks first season when he had bugger all resources and a first team squad of around 16. If you honestly think that Collins are not “superstars” after their performances this year you are thick. Collins has scored some very important goals and prevented the very same happening the other way. Ward is our best left back and has changed from playing up front JUST so he can play for the club.
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Mad Mick has lost it….This lad could have done a job for us. We’ll be watching him on Match of The Day soon!!!!
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39. Matt
Listen mate, if you seriously think Neil Collins is good enough then YOU HAVEN’T GOT A CLUE!!!!!
The only reason were still top is because Blues and Reading have failed to capaitalise on our poor form.
We are still top inspite of Collins’ ineptitude not because of him being selected.
F.G.S get real!!!!
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30 Wyre Wolf……..I was there too and was wracking my brains as I didn’t remember him playing either.
He must have had a great game…..he came on after 73 minutes when the game was won!
Wolverhampton: Murray, Little, Breen (Edwards 62), Collins, McNamara, Ricketts (Mark Davies 73), Olofinjana, Henry, Potter, McIndoe (Johnson 84), Craig Davies.
Subs Not Used: Ikeme, Clarke.
Booked: Potter.
Goals: Olofinjana 35, Craig Davies 42
UTW 1-0 tonight Collins 87
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Why are so called supporters blaming Mick or Jez for this greedy little upstarts desire to tkae his ball somewhere else. He has been injured for over 2.5 years during which time we have paid his wages and the cost od his rehabilitation. He has clearly been “tapped up” by Chris Evans and I believe all that is left to say, as they do in acting circles is
“Break a Leg!”
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Good luck mark from what i have read and heard you have been shafted by the club,manager,and CEO who don’t want the fans to turn on them so they release a false statement and make you the scapegoat. Moxey grow a pair and come out and tell the fans what they deserve to know and what really happened. The man’s an idiot.
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46 – YorkshireWolves
Cheers mate! I understand why I couldn’t remember him. 17 mins of glory in 2 1/2 years of Mick’s reign!!!
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Craig
I think the idiocy is all yours mate! Not shafted – injured, handsomely paid for doing nothing for 3 years and then demands a move as soon as he gets fit – good riddance to him! Is he going to do that every time he doesn’t have an automatic place in the team???? Don’t think he’s good enough for that!
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39 Matt youve lost the plot mate if the players Ward collins are playing so brill how come we have one of the worst goals against columns in the Championship oops must be Foley and stearman who are clueless.Should have signed Berra To play 2nite.
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45. I’m not your “mate”. Look where we are in the table. Look how many games Collins has played. Without his goals against Doncaster and Sheffield United we would now be 1 point off top place instead of 5 points clear.
47. Clearly Moxeys the idiot and not someone who believes anything some guy down the pub tells them.
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Cheers Wyre Wolf, Just by coincidence, by far the best game I can remember Ronaldo (sorry Mark Davies) playing for us was away to Reading in the 1-1 draw the season they walked this league, he was awesome that day in the middle of the park, but as the saying goes “One swallow does not a summer make”
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Interesting that we can offer extended contracts to the long term injured as with the likes of Elokobi, might it be that unlike Davies, MM signed him and these are the only players the man is ever interested in ?
Good luck to Davies in moving on, he has been very short changed by the MM regime.
So as we approach deadline day our income exceeds expenditure from this window, a real sign of committment to going up!
Any player at this club aged 19-23 who has come through the ranks must despair of ever getting a chance to prove MM right in casting them aside whilst players of similar age and ability arrive from elsewhere. Will Gleeson, an Eire international be next to jump ship after never getting a game or has JM allowed his contract to run out too ?
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FACT- Davies loves the wolves
FACT- Davies new at start of season MM WOULD NOT PLAY HIM
FACT- Dan Jones, Little, Gleeson, will all go the same way- why because at start of MM;s reign he said he would play the kids- first season was a revelation, since then he,s doing a MCGHEE & JONES by buying and picking old boys he knows- this does not develop our youth policy thats why the likes of Davies will always proper away from the GOLDEN PALACE!!
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51. Yes clearly thats the case and nothing to do with the rest of the team. I salute you
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54. Forget Murray, Hennessey, Ikeme while were at it then. Most of our business in Transfer Windows is done in the final days. Elokobi, Ebanks, Keogh, Kightly. Still thinking the transfer window will be crap?
55. Jones is going to dislodge Jarvis or Wardy is he? No chance. Littles better than Foley? Nah. Gleesons better than Henry or Jones? Nah. People forget that players have to be better than what we have to get in the starting lineup. Dan Jones and Little are both injured atm im fairly sure and Gleeson will be going back out on loan as he is still only 20 years old.
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2 years of injury… Bolton have paid for Davies potential. Mick has bought to this club the envy of most clubs,young players who have increased in price 5 fold. How can any fan knock Mick when we are top?
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Here we go again- HOW MANY GAMES DID DAVIES PLAY IN THE LAST THREE YEARS,you lot go to work and tell the gaffer that you won’t be able to work for the next 2-3 years and see what the answer is.
Davies was offered a new contract- he turned it down -FACT.
He is sooooo much a wolves fan he has crapped on the club who stood by him while he was out and paid him his wages-FACT.
And on that last note I think you will find that he was actually a manure fan!
Also if rumours are to be believed-non of the players could stand him because he was a big headed so and so? this just gives the MM haters something else to moan about, regardless of were we are in the league-muppets one and all.
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Despite more than two years exploring my family tree unfortunatley I could not find any Irish descendents, and have never played for Sunderland so Mick decided to sell me to Bolton.
Mark ‘wingnut’ Davies
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56,Simple solution play 11 defenders and blame them all
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This seems to have completely divided the Wolves fanbase down the middle…
When Davis was fit and playing he was without a doubt our best outfield player – he really shone.
I looked forward to the day when he got his place back. The fact that this will now never happen is an absolute kick in the gutts. It’s SOMEBODY’s fault – but because we will never know the full truth of it I doubt we’ll ever know whose…
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What a great shame that loyalty goes out of the window again!!!!!
Injured for 2 years,paid,looked after and guided back to fitness and then asks for a transfer…..good luck to Bolton.
I’ve always considered Davies as one of the jewells in the crown but with that attitude he’s gone right down in my estimation.
Hope the sell on clause covers his wages for the last 2 years!!!!!!!!!!!!
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52. Matt
And how many points would we of had against Bristol City if Collins hadn’t of played and scored.
We’d of won 1-0 you fool!!
Like I said clueless mate!!!
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Hang on a minute, as most of you have said either in this debate or in previous ones- davies,little,jones, glesson should be playing in the team and MM wont ever play them because he didnt sign them or theyre not irish! Could it actually be that micks letting them the experience of playing competitive, important matches at league 1 and 2 level and learning their trade before letting them play in a team with high expectations like ours this season!
Look at the players MM has brought in that are currently in the 1st team: Foley, kightly, edwards, jarvis, stearman! All played lower league football and played lots of games there. No disrespect to the young “cubs” of jones,little,gleeson etc they’re not better players than the current players, BUT playing games week in week out will definitely help them progress!!! and you never know if we get up what better stage to play on than the premiership!
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MM is unbelievably hypocritical. He did’nt even play at all while he was manager hardly so how does he no. I hope he haunts us the next time we play Bolton if hes playing just to see what a mistake he has made. Wolves go on about needing a midfielder. He was the answer. Young come through the ranks not long to settle into the team. Sorry MM but you have made a massive mistake.
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55 i totally agree. I know someone at the club and mark davies was told by MM he wouldnt play him at centre mid ( his natural position). Then he goes and offers him a new deal knowing he wouldnt sign it and so davies is blamed for not wanting to stay!!
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i can’t believe mcarthy said is last contribution was oldham 2007 i’m sure he scored 1 and made 1 against cambridge last season. what chance have we got with a manager with a memory like that
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As usual its lack of ambition from mm anybody who can play football and put a decent pass in he does,nt want em he just likes players who run around like headless chickens ie dave edwards andy keogh neil collins well a headless chicken would be better than neil collins.!!!
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Mark Davies was let go by Moxey + Thick Mick.He was offered a contract ! But less than Leicester were prepared to offer him,1 division below us.Moxey told him ” If he didn,t like it he knows what to do “.He did not ” Slap in a transfer request as Tim Nash states in his Moxey loving column,He was given NO CHOICE !!! If this is the way the present board treat our loyal players God help us !!Keep pickin your favourites Mick,we will be lucky to make the play offs !!! You have been warned
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Not like that comments going to come back and haunt him.
Charlie
ATLANTA WOLVES
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62 Steve B. You made the point that “When he was fit and playing he was without doubt our best outfield player” When was that then? I must have been on another planet from the day Mark Davies was born.
In the history of Wolves players showing no loyalty, his departure and betrayal is up there with Steve Froggatt, another injury prone big-headed player. At least Tony Daley and George Ndah had the decency to retire!
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68. Exactly, against CAMBRIDGE.
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how could the boy fullfill his potential here he was either on loan or injured!!
when he was fit and doing well you dont bring him back you offer a stupid contract that stated he must stay on loan for 18 months before we`d take him back!!! MOLLY MUPPETS!!!
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he scored v accrington ( i think them)in league cup at the start of the season and set up one. That was this season and he sounded really good/
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I have read some crap from MuchitupMcarthy but this takes the biscuit. Please explain what POTENTIAL people like Collins, Quashie, Umewulo Shackell etc etc have. They are in my opinion POTENTIAL LIABILITIES
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I’d rather have davies in the squad than Quashie
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So Mick you never notice davies’ impact in Carling Cup first round then?
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welcome back Mick2008… wasnt gonna be long before you re-appeared.
snubbing davies and playing collins…
enjoy your last few months at the club.
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