Wolves 1 Boro 2 – verdict
Saturday 24th January 2009, 5:08PM GMT.
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Wolves’ FA Cup hopes were dashed by a late winner by Middlesbrough substitute Marvin Emnes at Molineux.
Emnes fired in off the post on 83 to put Boro in the 5th round 20 minutes after Sam Vokes had headed Wolves level with his first Molineux goal.
Vokes’ fifth goal of the season cancelled out a classy chipped finish from Boro’s £12m record signing Afonso Alves a minute before the break.
Mick McCarthy’s men can now concentrate fully on Tuesday’s heavyweight Championship collision away to second place Reading when the Manager will bring back all his big guns.
McCarthy made five changes to the side that drew 2-2 at Bristol City last Saturday.
Dave Edwards came in for Kevin Foley at rightback, on-loan Kyel Reid replaced winger Michael Kightly, Jason Shackell came in for the suspended Richard Stearman, while Chris Iwelumo and Sam Vokes were re-introduced for Sylvan Ebanks-Blake and Andy Keogh.
McCarthy’s shadow team took the game to the Premier League visitors with plenty of the tempo that had seen them mount an improvement in the last two matches.
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only result that really matters today is brum lost 2 – 0
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What a game…
But again its the defence thats letting us down, keogh and reid played fantastic, but not too sure about the back line. MM needs to sort something fast, despite this, wolves put up a good fight against the premier league side.
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NEVER MIND 1 0R 3 POINTS TUESDAY WILL BE BETTER . BLUES DID WELL ASLO LOL
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Today Wolves showed just how much they need Central deffence and midfield reinforcements ASAP.
Middlesbrough could so easly have been beaten but still showed how to win the ball in midfield and the use It. The also had no nonsense cntre backs who could speedly tackle control and pass the ball.
Reid started wel and looks to be very quick but is too easly knocked of the ball and appears light weight. Javis was below par and missed what looked like an easy interception for the first goal. henry was again all energy but little dirrection and made many mistakes.
going forward Wolves are a reasonable counter attack team, but the deffence lacks conviction.
MM must be able to see the problems and needs to act on what he see’s.
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Could have been 2 – 1 to us if only…
Keogh made a big difference to the statuesque Iwelumo: I think he died after the Sheffield game.
All was laid bare with the defence and despite comments i heard, Boro will not be relegated> Don’t worry, Colins will never get a start for Wolves again with Manchienne back and Henry can look out with squashie available!
Apart from Henessey, there will be a totally different defence on Tuesday and I really do fancy us to WIn that one!
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DECENT GAME BUT VERY POOR RESULT. GOD HELP US NEXT SEASON IF WE DO FLUKE PROMOTION AND CAN’T BEAT A USELESS BOTTOM THREE PREMIER OUTFIT LIKE THESE. JARVIS NEEDS AN APPOINTMENT WITH SPEC SAVERS, AND SAM VOKES SHOULD BE FIRST CHOICE STRIKER TO PARTNER BLAKE.
BLUES SEEM HELL BENT ON MAKING SURE WE DO FINISH IN THE TOP TWO, BUT DO WE REALLY WANT ANOTHER FOOTBALL LESSON FROM THE PREMIER TEAMS NEXT SEASON. UNLESS MICK WANTS THE LOWEST POINTS TOTAL HONOUR BACK FROM DERBY.
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COLLINS AT FAULT FOR BOTH GOALS.
LOST HIS MAN BOTH TIMES.
LOL JUST SAYS IT ALL.
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Although there’s 3 places bewteen the two sides today in league football, there was the clear evidence on show of the massive void in class & quality between the top of the championship and bottom of the premier league. In truth wolves should of been dead and buried before half time. Middlesborough wasted a stack full of chances in the first half before Alves’ quality finish, chipping Wayne Hennssey. All in all wolves created perhaps 5 clear cut chances in the full 90 minutes.
Today’s result and perfomance shows how far we have to go, if we want to win promotion and hopefully stay in the premier league in the long term future. There is some promise of that being achieved, Vokes scored a cracking goal with a great header from even better cross from Edwards (I might add the point that Vokes could well be our best striker in two years time) and Kigthly made a good impression up against a very hard working plus quality back four. Though our lack of quality really showed in the back four and central midfield however could it be a lack of quality coaching? We do have talent and potential premier league players, i.e. Hennssey who was very busy today and made some great saves too keep out Alves and Johnson. Foley and Stearman were badley miss dispite Edwards clearance of the line he was being cut apart through out most of the game likewise with Hill- we do miss Ward without doubt a most improved player this season. While Henry could make the grade as standard defensive midfielder in the top flight, but he would have to be at his best week in and out, while Jones is simply to me is a over rated player, in my opinion, of course he did make a cracking pass in the second half to find Jarvis or Reid I can’t quite remember, which he only does once for me, he needs to do it more in the full 90.
With all that how much would wolves need to spend if we do win promotion? Easily 20 to 30 million, the problem is who would Mick McCarthy bring in? I personally would’nt trust him with that kind of money and perhaps the downside I don’t think there’s going to be that level of investment, take Hull’s 5 million pound signing Jimmy Bullard, I can’t see wolves doing that any time in the distant future. Anyway, some of my doubts about certain players maybe transformed if we could see the very best of them on a regulary basis. However Mick isn’t ever going to get us playing football to the standard of Middlesborough’s play in the first half and by all accounts this is a team who have lost both home and away to the Albion with 4 goals conceded.
So there is a chance of a premier league team being made from our current squad with some changes of course, so still a exciting future despite losing and the recent slugish form, however if we do achieve promotion is our current manager good enough? Reason why I ask is because if we get out-played by ‘the Borough’ then are we ready for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool and the rest of the premier league?
Best result of the day was indeed Blackpool beating the Brummies lets make that count on Tuesday at Reading. Onwards and hopefully forwards.
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Great performance lads. Shame about the linesman who spoiled what could have been a great game, in allowing them the first goal which was offside.
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WELL done wolves should have won this one only for bad decisions from the ref we were the better team second half on to tuesday now 3 points WOLVES FOREVER
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I would rather have a defeat than a draw. It was a game that could have gone either way and Jarvis’s miss just before Boro’s second goal was the key moment. For all Wolves fans the game against Reading on Tuesday is far more important.
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MM will bring back the big guns for Tuesday’s game……. KEOGH, yippee!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Perfect weekend. Out of cup and Brum lost their game in hand. now beat Reading and we home and dry. Quashie goona show us how to hold a lead with fifteen minutes to go, compete for every ball.
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We have a good game against Boro just losing out to a late goal by their 12 Million QUID record signing. Although Henry didn’t help by getting caught in possession!
So we tested ourselves against quality and established premier league players and came out well!
We got through without any major injuries – apart from Iwelumo, but not sure we’re gonna miss him much anyway.
Vokes looks like he is now emerging into a class act!
Jarvis, apart from his miss, keeps getting better and better.
And we’re out of that competition! Too many cup runs at Wolves have resulted in disasters elsewhere!
And, we can prepare with new confidence for the next league games starting with the big one at Reading.
And Birmingham get turned over at Blackpool!
And after they play us Reading have some really awkward games coming up!
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WE SHOULD BEAT TEAMS LIKE BORO THEY ARE ONE OF THE POOR SIDES IN THE PREM DONT FORGET SANDWELL BEAT EM EASY!
ME THINKS WE AINT GOOD ENOUGH
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What a surprise – the winner comes from someone running straight past Collins as if he wasn’t there!!
Glad we’re out to be honest but we looked a shambles at the centre of defence again. Why Mick can’t see that Collins is useless is beyond me!!
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we gave them a good game with our 2nd string vokes his going to be a wolves legend.great result from blackpool,now lets get to reading and get revenge c-mon you wolves
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Mick keeps harprin on about how great his fave’s are, especailly Neil – AKA School Boy Error – Collins it’s sickening. Hopefully we have some DECENT signings (not Quashie!!)in the pipeline. C’mon Jez, Morgan & Co lets take advantage and build on this great position – don’t blow all the good work and progress with the like of Collins & CO even though Mick loves em! Silly errors have cost us dear in this and previous seasons.
Big, big game on Tuesday – let’s get revenge for the Molineux thrashing! C’mom WOLVES!!!
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Some good stuff today from our second XI.
Gave us some idea of what to expect but as MM said cup games are one offs and that may not have been the way the game developed if it was a league match.
Vokes looks good and a couple of years down the line should be the target man.
As for the cup as long as it wasnt a draw and we were entertained I want that bothered.
Lets get promoted first and think about these later.
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as i said the other day if mm plays under par players then it should be lower prices to watch,so i’m so glad i did’nt bother going plus saved myself 23 quid,now for the real job in hand reading on tuesday,please mm no under par players that night,but i won’t hold my breath,still up the wolves.
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12 million for pne player… ah dreamland!
Now on to far more pressing concerns like Tuesday night. Avoiding defeat is vital. In the context a draw there would be a great result, so do we go with 4-5-1 formation? I don’t know. Getting a quality centre half in on Monday would be great but can’t see it happening.
Otherwise 4-5-1 formation v. Reading:
1) Ikeme, if fit.
2) Foley
3) Ward, if fit
4) Shackell
5) Stearman
6) Henry
7) Jarvis
8) Quashie
9) SEB
10) Jones
11) Kightly
Everyone of these guys must be right at the top of their game though or we may get slaughtered!!!
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Oops typo on last comment, meant 12 million for ONE player not PNE, but after the job Preston did on us recently perhaps I was right first time (lol).
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It’s still the defending! Classy chip by an unmarked Alves! and a debutant breezing past our invisible centrebacks
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well its shows how far we have come,not very far have we.and where were all those die hard fans.
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Although unrelated, I would prefer Davies to go to Leicester but only as a straight swap for Fryatt, otherwise Bolton.
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Can somebody explain to me what has happened with Mark Davies? Why are we selling one of our best products from the academy?? It does make any sense. Has MM upset him or vice- versa? Sounds like another Eastwood situation to me!
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No lose situation for MM wasn’t it.
We lost to one of the worst Premier teams around,the Baggies beat them 3 – 0 last week. Get Mancienne signed, not on loan, and he can then compete with Stearman for a place along side Collins in the heart of the defence.
Our form since Collins returned in Mancienne’s place is relagation form not promotion form. MM get your stubbon head out of the sand….please
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Apart from the cup result what a great day yesterday!
A good performance against Boro in a game we could have won on another day. Win or lose im happy with, the very last thing we needed was a replay.
Hats off to Mick for both going for the win and managing to use the players conservatively in preperation for tuesday nites game.
The best news by far was the blues getting beat at blackpool! making our draw at bloomfield a very valuable point gained.
Looking forward now to watchin the game at reading, lets get behind the boys big time, bout time we realised we have no one to fear in this league, blues and reading are no better or worse than us.
Ill take an away point at reading but i believe we,re more than capable of a victory and a massive 3 points.
Keep the faith, the futures gold n black!
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if this its going to be like next season in the prem we will be straight back down like Sandwell town,can’t beat an average side like Boro and selling davies to Bolton for a mill what a joke
lets get in the market for some quaility player
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Collins has to be replaced.
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Embarassed by yesterdays performance – Midd’boro are the worst Prem side on current form and we could have been 3 down by half time. The defence looks like conceding every time the opposition attack. Collins had his usual shocker and how much did we pay for Shackell??? McCarthy has a dreadful record of signing centrebacks since he came here and the sale of Mark Davies – the best homegrow midfield player we have produced for over 20 years – is just unbeleivable especially when you consider Collins was given a new 4 year deal in the summer. If we manage to hang on to a top 2 place this season we will do a Derby. The current team is not as good as the one Dave Jones took up 6 years ago and I just don’t see that MM’s record in the transfer market is good enough to make the 6 or 7 decent signings we would need in the summer to make a decent fight of a life in the Prem! All very depressing!!!!!!!!!
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Very disapointed with Davies scenario hope weve got something up our sleeve to make up for it,the game yesterday could have gone our way with a bit of luck.
No 3 yesterday £24 to £30 pound to watch far to expensive im afraid,the club missed a trick free entry for season ticket holders plus £15 per ticket equals full house and loads brownie points with fans so we charge full price!!!???
Hope the rumors of mance coming back are true,he would make a massive differance.And please everybody give NQ a chance.
Up The Wolves!!!
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Although there’s 3 places between the two sides today in league football, there was the clear evidence on show of the massive void in class & quality between the top of the championship and bottom of the premier league. In truth wolves should of been dead and buried before half time. Middlesborough wasted a stack full of chances in the first half before Alves’ quality finish, chipping Wayne Hennssey. All in all wolves created perhaps 5 clear cut chances in the full 90 minutes.
Today’s result and performance shows how far we have to go, if we want to win promotion and hopefully stay in the premier league in the long term future. There is some promise of that being achieved, Vokes scored a cracking goal with a great header from even better cross from Edwards (I might add the point that Vokes could well be our best striker in two years time) and Kigthly made a good impression up against a very hard working plus quality back four. Though our lack of quality really showed in the back four and central midfield however could it be a lack of quality coaching? We do have talent and potential premier league players, i.e. Hennssey who was very busy today and made some great saves too keep out Alves and Johnson. Foley and Stearman were badly miss despite Edwards clearance of the line he was being cut apart through out most of the game likewise with Hill- we do miss Ward without doubt a most improved player this season. While Henry could make the grade as standard defensive midfielder in the top flight, but he would have to be at his best week in and out, while Jones is simply to me is a over rated player, in my opinion, of course he did make a cracking pass in the second half to find Jarvis or Reid I can’t quite remember, which he only does once for me, he needs to do it more in the full 90.
With all that how much would wolves need to spend if we do win promotion? Easily 20 to 30 million, the problem is who would Mick McCarthy bring in? I personally wouldn’t trust him with that kind of money and perhaps the downside I don’t think there’s going to be that level of investment, take Hull’s 5 million pound signing Jimmy Bullard, I can’t see wolves doing that any time in the distant future. Anyway, some of my doubts about certain players maybe transformed if we could see the very best of them on a regularly basis. However Mick isn’t ever going to get us playing football to the standard of Middlesborough’s play in the first half and by all accounts this is a team who have lost both home and away to the Albion with 4 goals conceded.
So there is a chance of a premier league team being made from our current squad with some changes of course, so still a exciting future despite losing and the recent sluggish form, however if we do achieve promotion is our current manager good enough? Reason why I ask is because if we get out-played by ‘the Borough’ then are we ready for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man U, Liverpool and the rest of the premier league?
Best result of the day was indeed Blackpool beating the Brummies lets make that count on Tuesday at Reading. Onwards and hopefully forwards
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The million we got for him could enable us to buy the ‘quality’ midfirelder we need.Mark is a sad loss but he is injury prone and maybe we coudn’t afford to take chances. However he will become another ex = player to haunt us I guess.
Good riddence FA cup. Now for reading although after Saturday’s result, blues may no longer be a main competitor for the top two places. They only have eight days to get others in for a challenge and Bowyer will get injured soon – he always does.although I do not wish this on him. West ham would have been a great side had all their injured players been fit but they did buy players who are injury prone. kieron Dyer must be the best paid player in the world based on his wage / number of games played ratio.
Exciting times
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This could prove to be one of the most important weeks in the recent history of wwfc,if ever there was a time for mr.morgan to spend some of the 30 million(as promised)then surely now is that time,stop trying to win promotion on the cheap and show some “real”ambition for once-mancienne + berra for less than 10 million combined and the promised land here we come!!!and we won’t be coming back down!However,no ambition this week and we won’t be going anywhere(back to square one in the summer}come on MMM don’t let us down now!
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bulgarianwolf sandwell town did beat boro after boro hit the cross bar and wentdown to 10 men our lads had 1 shot at goal and that was very late on.i did think that our lads would have made it a better game of it then what they did they never closed down quickly enough we will now see what MAD MICK does now that he has said that he was not given enough time and money at sunderland to keep them up,MORGAN when he fist came in said that there was money and what has been spent.he should have brought players in NOW tomake sure we get promomtion and who are premire players ready for next season mainly we need defenders that can defenednot not micks relatives in collins and keogh
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Unbelievable after watching the performance on Saturday and the rubbish displayed by our mid-field and back four its no wonder Davies wants to leave.
MM is trying to say he doesn’t want him to go, there must be a problem between them, probably the way he hgas been treated and he is obviously not on MMs click, IE Keogh, Collins, Ward, Henry and Jones. The next ones to go will be EB, Folley and GLeeson(who has also been frozen out by MM).
I fear that if we go up and it will be touch and go we will be streugt back selling our best players.
Make Davies an offer he cannot refuse.
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You could argue that Wolves should have won 1-0. Mr Styles and his linesman got it worng on both the big occassions when Middlesborough actually scored there goals. You cant say they missed a hatful of chances – they disnt score them – simple as that
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Get rid of Collins Mick!!
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I agree with you Bob, Thick Mick must be sacked if he keeps playing Collins!!
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Not too fussed about Saturday, thought Vokes & Edwards were excellent, new lad Reid looked ok, did well in the first half especially.Jarvis was poor, his miss in the 2nd half summed his day up really, will need to be alot better tomorrow night.
Collins, oh dear, how many chances is he going to get to find some form, thought he was at fault for their winner, wasn’t close enough to their forward & how he got away with the foul on Alves in the 1st half only the ref knows, who was also awful.
Shame about Davies, but if he wants to go let him go, we MUST make sure that we get at least £1m plus a sell on clause, don’t think MM has given him a fair crack of the whip here, if only he had been given the opportunities that Collins & Keogh have had in the team.
Hope we can get Manncienne back one way or the other, dont think he would come on a permanent basis, so we need to push a loan deal through.
Draw tomorrow & we are still on track, but I am quietly confident we can sneak a win there!!!!
Keep the faith
Wolves forever
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Collins was shocking on saturday, absolutley shocking, having praised his earlier league performances, he has slipped to the form of last season. He shouldnt play on tuesday on this form, but MM will play him because he is MM favourite.
Mark Davies is by far the best player wolves has produced since, Lescott & Keane. Scandlous that we are going to sell him, but I like to know why he is any better then somebody like Dave Jones and Edwards who do not convince me!
Tuesday night, MASSIVE GAME! A game we can ill-afford to lose.
The Heat is definatley on now.
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I dont think we will get Mancienne back on loan.Carvallio has a hamstring problem that could see him out for a while.The only way is PAY FOR HIM.
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Hey Bob Wolf,
Finally i think that the rest of the wolves fans have seen the light and realised that collins isnt up to it at all!
When will Mick finally see the light and drop him, or get someone else in to replace him?
Where is Breen at the moment?
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Middlesbrough had one player worth our entire squad! Apart from his goal I thought Collins marked him out the game to be honest! It was hardly our first team though was it? I was happy for no replay and brum losing. Shackell is awful and will have to be sold. I hear Mancienne is keen to come back and play. Edwards done well at right back. team v reading:
Hennessey
Foley
Stearman
Craddock
Ward
Kites
Quashie
Jones
Jarvo
Ebanks
Keogh (who was superb when he come on, on sat)
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Not bothered about result,could easily of won this game if we wanted to which Boro obviously did.Performance not bad except they went straight through the middle unchalenged for the winner highlighting the fact we desperatly need a ball winner in there.My only gripe is with MM.He knows how much the fans like JODY CRADDOCK and it looks like he may be leaving Wolves this week so why not give him a chance to say farewell to the fans??? MM not bothered what the fans think in the slightest…
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our defence was very poor again,i think collins has got more assist than any one, no football brain.why are bolton and wigan after davies if he can not get a game for us,and what does muppet mick say we want him to stay but he want to leave,maybe when we are looking for a midfield player and he does not get a chance it telling him some thing? muppet wake up and smell the coffee before it to late.
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as i said in my earlier post theres no way we going to get anything at reading,soon as we play anybody half decent we get found out.
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Sad that Mark Davis is going but in a way its a blessing as like Matt Murry he is very,very injury prone.Have heard people mentioning Gary Breen.What you on about???-he left months ago-after he lost all his pace! Hopefully Readings Steven Hunt will of signed for Wigan by the time we play them as hes their dangerman.Central defender needed BADLY-Neil Collins-OUT-OUT-OUT!!!-& take Karl Henry too! Our midfild is powder puff,we really need a strong ball winner in there who knows how to pass the ball to members of his own team!!! I Feel good about the Reading game tomorrow but even if we get a result we still need at least two quality players namely a central defender and a midfild genral.
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MM only likes players like
Keogh collins and ward how many chances have these donkeys had, and before you idiots start, S ward is not a quality player, he is a very lucky player, M Davies should have been in WW team as soon as he was fit. WW are still a joke and going no where with MM Moxey and Silent Morgan, we would be the laughing stock in the prem, no quality player would sign for MM
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48. A westbrom fan. Idiot. Why dont you go down to your local corner shop and ask if they’ll be kind enough to sponsor the albion?!
Typical Wolves I can see us getting a positive result on tuesday,
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50. another baggie on here, things must be bad in the poorthorns.
We are top of the league with those players and Wardy has done very well, Keogh has hit a bit of form and Collins played well on sat, its shackell that was awful.
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52 Keogh hit form God bloody help you,
how many goals has this mighty forward scored
Ward would get killed in the prem, and Collins !!
please go back to primary the bell is ringing.
We might be coming down however we will go back up, you lot will be down by December and then it will be another 10 years before you have a sniff at the prem, until you sign quality you will stay a CCC team, no one seems to want to sign for you great manager only his Love sons.
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50. I agree 100%. Been saying it for over a year now. Collins, Keogh, Ward and Henry, none of these
are any good. Barely championship players let alone prem. The penny will click, when Mad Mick has gone, and the new man comes in.
Mark Davies situation is an absolute disgrace. To not recall him fron loan is utter madness and somes up this pig ignornant, stubborn, tacticly inept manager we have.
Has MM actually signed a decent player?
Ebanks Blake, he never saw play, he was recommeneded, as was kightly? Jarvis, dont know.
I dont think he has.
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i should have also said I also dont rate Stearman. Ok, he’s better than the other useless centre halves we have, but he’s no way a premiership player, and he shud be at the peak of his game now. Nor do I particularly rate Hennessey. He’s no where near as good as Murray.
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Finally, for the Iwuelumo knockers, any player will lose form when he’s constantly hauled off at half time for the happless keogh who couldnt hit a barn door, let alone the back of the net.
I cannot believe the number of matches I’ve seen when the top two strikers in the division have both gone off on or befor ethe 60 minutes mark. It must give the opposition such a boost to see top players going off.
MM is unbelievable.
If you want to keep your players scoring, give them some confidence, and play them. He does it with Ward and Keogh, so why he cant with Iwuelemo is beyond me.
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Taking everything in to consideration Wolves were put to shame by the effort of all the other Championship teams in the cup games last weekend.
Just a taste of the Premiership came to Molineux and it has to be said they won in a canter, is this what to expect from a team that are top of the Championship?
Lets forget buying players, we need to buy a coach that can teach the ones we’ve got how to shoot on target from further out than 5 yards.
Mick, we know Middlesbrough have got good players it was a pity we made them look a lot better that they are, the only consolation from losing the supporters don’t have to pay full price to see another cup game.
Its getting to the stage where its embarrassing that the reason we are top of the league is due to other teams losing, ya having more luck than a lottery winner.
With your luck I wouldn’t surprised if half the Reading team don’t turn up you’ve got a sell out support going with you so to compensate for charging them full price to get in last Saturday just WIN.
Iv also heard on the grapevine, don’t invest in banks there’s a better way of turning a tanner into a shillin, invest it with a Scouse, an Accountant and a Barnsley Chop buy one half get the other half free.
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53 this is the problem not enough quality, to many yes men to MM, M Davies must have something for Bolton and Wigan to want him, MM said he offered a contract to him, why did he bother, all MM would have done was loan him out to some other team, why do we waste money on the acadamy MM would not know a good player, just ask Roy Keane about MM
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Ward and Keogh and collins will get games no matter what, MM just loves them and with some of the idiots on here who are starting to beleive everything he says, he seems to bring S ward into every sentence he makes, this Boy with his brothers Collins and Keogh are not good enough.
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I believe Davies is on way to Bolton for one million! Will not miss him as he has an attitude problem. Dont blame MM, he has done well to sell him.
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Can I come and play for you please Mick, Uncle Phil won’t let me play.
Or will you leave me on the bench again in favour of Ward and Collins like you did against Sheffield?
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I can’t believe all the people who have already got us beaten by Reading tomorrow night, these guys are not Barcelona!! The’ve lost to Southampton, Charlton, Ipswich and a few others who we’ve beaten.
It’s time to get behind the lads!
I’m convinced that certain people on here actually revel in us losing so they can say “See I told you so”
UTW
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49…
Breen may have lost his pace but Collins would make him look like Usain Bolt. I don’t know honw many more goals Collins is going to have to cost us before Mick drops him? I’d rather have Craddock in than Collins.
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62…
There is one reason why people expect Reading to win. He’s big, slow and will be playing in the centre of defence.
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64…..
Would that be collins by any chance?
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Over the years tha gap between the Premiership and Championship has widened. Teams who move up a division lower from say third to second, can make it in the next division. Move to the Premiership is totally different. We witnessed the gap wth Boro. They are just about relegated yet were equally as good as us high flyers. The lesson really is that if we get to the Premiership we had better be ready to spend some real money to stay there. Can’t get away with odd ball players from third world countries. Just imaigine if we had played Man Utd instead of Boro, I think it would have been ugly.
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We need Mancienne back urgently. Need to sell Davies for the 2 million and sneak in a last minute buy, hint hint.. Mancienne or the on loan Reid. Or a swap from Bolton would be good, aslong as its a decent player.
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Its weird to see you all convincing each other that this game didn’t matter…. lots of talk about the result meant nothing, and whilst i agree that the league is your priority it still adds up to another poor result (following your last game). The fact that Brum lost only covers this up.
I see all those fans who promised a better result than we got against them last week are all now talking about 1 of their players being worth £12 million….. well thats the prem for ya !!!
I still think you will come up, and I’m very confident that we will be there to greet you – but I hope you have just had a little taste of what awaits… we are a better team than last season and we are fighting for our lives.
I hope you come up to make our life a bit easier next season.
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Davis just one in a line of kids we develop then Moxey sells on Keane,Lescott,Andrews premiership but not with Wolves.No doubt at the end of the season if we finish as play off losers JM,MM,SM will proclaim another super season,Award nice fat bonuses and promise the earth for the next season.
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Mark Davies has gone ?
Disgrace. Of course he didnt want to come back. Why should he? He’s got a manager that didn’t value him. Apparantly we offered him a 3.5 year contract. Great, COLLINS was given a four year one, that’s how much we valued him.
Davie has gone because he knew the manager wouldnt play him, simple as that. He’s gone for football reasons.
As usual , Moxey has done a great job, spinning the press because he knows if the truth was out, the fans would be up in arms!
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Better team eh Baggie, couldn’t beat Burnley then!!! You post some right rubbish at times.
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The writing is in the wall.A few weeks ago we lost at home to Sunderland in a friendly.If we do go into the Premiership,mediocre sides like Sunderland and Middlesborough need to be beaten.The signs are that there will need to be a lot of quality signings.
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the pessimists- were not good enough, mm doesnt know what hes doing ,the defence are rubbish , etc,etc,etc .
the optomists-we dont care we lost, what matters is tuesday, we only need a couple of quality players to get promoted and stay there etc etc etc.
the undecided, boro should have destroyed us , but , promotion is more important , ie-agree with the pessimists and the optomists.
.baggies. bragging that this a taste of the premier and they will be waiting for us and , nobody wants to sign for wwfc and how much they are better than us etc etc etc yawn.
fact . no one has ever been relegated or promoted because they have listened to supporters opinions.
fact . france won the 1998 world cup with no recognised strikers .(iwelumo)
fact . england have qualified for several world cups and european championships , with guess what? slow defenders who when faced with any one with any movement or skill just couldnt cope.
fact. mark davies three matches in two seasons.if he is as good as some believe , bolton , will win something nxt season ??? . and gerrard better watch out because in no time he’ll lose his place to davies for england and maybe liverpool .
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constructive criticism of my comments only please.
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68, HB, Would like to say nice to hear from you but it isn’t. you sound a little bitter & twisted to me, especially as you have just done well to scrap a draw against a team who didn’t have a shot on target at the Mol, when they were soundly thrashed & to boot looks like you have lost your captain for the season, ah well………….
66,
Boro??? did we really look like we wanted to win the match??? with 5 out, virtually unenforced, mate we ain’t got to play Utd week in week out, but there are 6 – 8 ‘boros’ in the prem & that who we are competing with.
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just look at all the moaning losers on here!!!!
Mancienne would never sign for the dingles. u couldnt even beat a poor brough team at home and u think ur bigger than us ha ha. you will always be in the baggies shadow
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Please dont give MM the money from Davies sale,
we will end up with S Wards mom, the tea lady would spend it better. When are some of you idiots on here going to wake up, this team is no were near good enough to compete in the Prem.
By giving Ward and collins 4 year contracts that tells you what type of player MM likes
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The comments from the steptoes on thats what the prem is all about week in week out is complete rubbish.
The prem is a lot weaker than ever before, look how many teams are fighting for their lives?
Take away the top 4 then Villa, Everton and the rest are there for the taking. yes it will be hard to stay up but not as hard as it has been years ago.
Look at the teams in the prem that aint that good. WBA,Stoke,Hull,Fulham,Bolton,Sunderland,Boro,Newcastle,Portsmouth etc, Hardly fills me with dread.
Yes investment is needed but i would be more confident of staying up IF we go up this time than last time.
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76. Another load of rubbish from a Throttle.
Sorry to dissapoint you but the Throttles aren’t even big enough to cast a shadow. If and when you find it post a picture of your trophy room. If you don’t know what a trophy is it is something you get when you win something IMPORTANT.
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76. us dingles as you put it dont think we are bigger than you lot at all, get your facts right cus us dingles KNOW we are bigger than you lot in every way.
dont take our word for it, have a look into the past and compare WBA to teh Wolves then come back and we will accept your apolagises.
just because your in the prem (for 3 more months) and we aint dont mean we are in your shadow.
your the one with the chip on your shoulder,as jack nicholson said YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!
Know go and put a jacket on cus you must be freezing walking in the
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So we’ve been promoted and none of our players are good enough for the prem? That’s what I’m reading.
No, Collins isn’t as good as as Mancienne or any number of other defenders but he is the best we have to play right now.
I’d love to swap our entire team for that of say, Man Utd or even Villa but it’s not going to happen. The players we’d like wouldn’t commit until we are really up and truthfully we couldn’t pay their wages anyway until we make it.
There are some real fantasists posting on here. We have the best squad in the division based on the FACT we’re top of the league and come what may will still be top tomorrow.
We’re not a Premiership team but we are a bloody good Championship team.
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Disagree that cup does not matter-great competition that provides excitement,prestige,honour.To claim a Premiership scalp would have been an achievement.A good cup run and league form can go hand in hand-ask Albion!adds spice to the season and is a break from league routine.losing to Boro Wolves are out of the cup,lose to Reading they will still be top!Don’t disrespect cup-can mean more than many a mundane game.Sad to see Davies go -why groom home grown players for others benefit?Little,Gobern,D jones,Gleeson could be nucleas of self produced team-fans identify with own players.
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To 76 – one nil gera..? would that be the same gera that plays for Fulham now lol..
ya couldnt even beat Burnley at home so lol @ you :) ‘always be in the baggies shadow’ lmao u shud be on yr own teams page moaning about not being able to beat Burnley to be honest. Anyways enough bout that kid, c’mon Wolves lets at least get a draw tonight! I think Vokes personally is superb and i hope he starts tonight, 2-1 Wolves tonight!
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76. Always in the BOGGIES shadow. You must be joking the BOGGIES couldn’t even cast a shadow to cover a needle.
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The ‘you’ve let us down again’ placard will be unearthed from the loft before we know it…
Fickle dingles – just accept that you’d do a Derby if you went up – we thrashed boro and couldve been 5.
Pity you lost actually as was hoping for another FA cup tie in the South Bank so we could pommel you 3-0 again.
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