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Wolves 1 Preston 3 – verdict
Saturday 10th January 2009, 5:10PM GMT.
Wolves’ hold on the Championship lead was left looking fragile after two-goal Stephen Elliott saw them lose to Preston at Molineux.
Things seemed to be going the home sides’ way when Sylvan Ebanks-Blake gave the home side a 20th minute lead, following an awful goal kick from keeper Andy Lonergan.
Former Wolves striker Elliott – who hit the bar after the first goal – equalised in the 24th minute then made it 3-1 on 61 minutes.
In between defender Sean St Ledger – the aggressor in Chris Iwelumo’s sending off at Deepdale in September – put Alan Irvine’s side ahead four minutes before the break.
Coupled with Reading’s 4-0 win over Watford, which cut Wolves’ lead to four points, their two and a half month strangle hold is looking as precarious as ever.
The patchy performance only served to underline why manager Mick McCarthy is seeking to strengthen his squad in the transfer window.
Wolves welcomed back star winger Michael Kightl,y while there were also rare games for keeper Carl Ikeme and Jason Shackell for the departed Michael Mancienne and the ill Wayne Hennessey, but they couldn’t inspire the home side to the sort of performance that we have come to expect from Wolves this season.
The closest Wolves came to a reply was when Iwelumo headed against the bar in the 67th minute.
But it was a hard earned and well deserved win by North End. Burly striker Jon Parkin also had an effort disallowed and fired over, as Wolves defence was sliced apart.
Molineux old boy Elliott punished more slack defending, when he stabbed home after Ikeme flapped at Ross Wallace’s cross.
Wolves’ hopes were finally dashed in the 74th minute, when an alleged handball from Parkin – which was initially signalled as a penalty – was over-ruled after referee Colin Webster consulted assistant Steven Rushton on the far side.
Earlier, the returning Kightly wasted two decent chances, as Wolves enjoyed their best spell of the game either side of their goal.
But, in truth, they never did enough to win this game and they look a side short on ideas and in need of reinforcements.
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yowv done it before and yowl do it agen yowv done it before and yowl do it agen,aye boing boing elliot
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Wolves supporters are you REALLY suprised at this score. Unless you are wearing Gold and Black tinted glasses you wll have seen this coming for some time. They are just not good enough.
MM buy some defenders and hope you can hold on for a play off position.
Open your eyes boys and girls and tell me where the next win is coming from.
Dire against Blackpool and MM singing the praises of Sheffield Uniteds Premier Stars. Premier stars my a**e. Failed Premier stars might sum them up.
Finally Collins……oh dear
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Embaressing.
Every one of them.
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Obviously time to beef up the side with quality signings not squad extras. We cannot afford to paper over the cracks any longer. On recent evidence we are barely play off material. Come on guys, sort it please.
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The loss of Premiership quality in the team is apparent. This is not the form to get us automatic promotion, when Brum and Reading are full of Premiership experience.
We need some extra quality in central defence, and mid-field.
That wing cover is still essential as well. Some players demand a team place every week, but if we had 3 quality wingers and permed them regularly, then I’m sure that would is reasonable, and we can do that with Jarvis and Kites being able to play on either wing.
After what he has achieved so far this season, Mick needs our continued support, just as long as we don’t start playing rounds and squares again!
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i know every one thinks its doom and gloom. but if you chceck through our players just see how many have played in the premeirship compared to reading and birmingham, we have had an amazing season so far, we just need new experienced faces in the team to lift the boys and maybe then the team will click again, we stil have to believe
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we have not played well for weeks too many square pegs in round holes. if we have any aspirations of promotion mick must play players in there best and natural positions and if we havent got anyone to fill that roll he needs to get players in to do the job.
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Im not one to draw the knives when we slip up but Top of the league, 2 weeks rest, at home, and we lose 3 – 1? NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Sort our defence out before we waste the great start we have made. We need to sign at least a QUALITY centre half to go alongside Stearman and a combative midfielder.
Forget the cup on Tuesday. League and transfer window is our priority!
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What a shambles!! Collins was terrible throughout, and everyone on here says he is in fantastic form!!
We need a new centre back quick or we are heading into the playoffs.
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Was not at the game but seems like a shambles to me reading between the lines. Was Collins at fault once again or did Shackel play like a moose?
If I was Keogh I would be pretty annoyed having to come on the pitch in the 89th Minute. What’s that all about? MM sort it out we could have been 9 points clear at the end of Dec but now down to 4 points and Reading winning for fun!
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The side he put out was always going to struggle. Give the boys a break and bring in some fresh blood to give some true strength in depth and add a touch of experience.
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i have just got back from game and that is the worst referee and peformance i have seen in ages we realy miss a good centre back mick mancienne was missed today so was foley shackell dont have a clue what he is doing and dave edwards jesus dont no where to start.
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A shocker. Its being coming for sometime now. Poor team selection and tactics. Too many players below par again – its becoming the norm. We need a good central midfielder urgently.
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We look short of ideas, a team unable to defend, unable to create anything and unable to deal with any team with a physical presence.
Unfortunately this has been a match waiting to happen- we have scraped lucky wins and draws for some time. The last game I can remember us playing well was Burnley at home.
Our midfield and defence look powderpuff.
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Terry, your soon on here when we lose, were still top and how did you bunch of scutters get, oh yes lost gain, pee off on to your own pages, but I forgot, nothing there to smile about is there.
Boing boing twonk, missing u next season. And get an education you dole dosser, your as bad as a asylum seeker you scrounger
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Another piece of Merlin’s magic bit him on the backside you watch Freddie do the same on 7th Feb
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the bubbles burst again
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I have followed Wolves for over 40yrs, so I am used to being ‘let down’. I hope I am wrong, but I feel the bubble has burst. My fear is that we finish 3rd and lose in the play offs to a side that finished 20 odd points adrift of us!I hope I am wrong.What would compound it would be if Albion avoid relegation too!
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mcarthy’s been found out just like the team has.he hasnt got a plan b and its mcarthy thats going to cost wolves this season and not the tean itself
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What a complete and total farce that was!!!! We were second best in every department and to be honest we’ve had this coming for the last 6-7 games.Considering we’ve had a 2 week break we were aweful.It just shows how average this division is that we’re still top because at best we are an average Championship team in an average Championship.BADLY-BADLY need a new central defender of PREMIERSHIP CLASS which we’ve known since the start of the season! BADLY-BADLY need a ball winning central midfield powerhouse to boss the midfield(such as Paul Ince,Alex Rae were),we were powder puff in there today.And we BADLY-BADLY need another goalscorer who can come on and change the game when plan A’s not working.Im sorry but Sam Vokes isnt ready yet for this division and Big Chris hasnt played well since Sheffield Utd away.Ikeme dosnt give the same steadyness that Hennessey does.Collins needs to go and go NOW,how MM can give him a 4 year contract is on the same lines as Glen Hoddle thinking Thomas Frankowski was the missing ‘piece of the jigsaw’.SEB scored but never looked like scoring again,Kightly tried his very hardest-as usual but it just isnt coming off for him-transfer talk affecting his game???-and i really carnt remember Jarvis doing anything???? Preston wernt much better but still won after gifting us a goal.Yes we will have people on here saying ‘DONT PANIC,DONT PANIC’ but it is not panicing to point out what EVERYONE must of been seeing for a good 6-7 weeks now.Sunderland went up a few years ago after being below mid table at turn of the year,Stoke and Hull went up last year after being around play-off postions in New Year,just because we had a good start it wins nothing.History shows its the last 10-15 games that win or lose promotion not the first.Pretty football in the sun is great but every year when its cold and wet we start to strugle.We just havnt got a strong enough team now let alone squad which is plain for all to see.Teams have sussed us out and dont look scared of us.Before i went into the game i saw the Villa fans on Sky Sports singing along to ‘Hi Ho Silver Linning’ after beating WBA.Its about time we got rid of this aweful song at Molineux and brought back THE LIQUIDATOR,this i think would give the home games a much better atmosphere because today it was flat as a pancake,almost as if everyone knew what was coming.MM had better sort this out-AND QUICKLY otherwise he’ll be ringing the South Korean FA for a job!!! Im not panicing….im just not burying my head in the sand!!!
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COMPLETE AND UTTER DISGRACE.. THE EVIDENCE IS THERE FOR ALL TO SEE AND HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVEN GAMES, OUR PROMOTION HOPES ARE CRUMBLING GAME BY GAME. IF YOU THINK THIS BUNCH OF IDIOTS WILL GET US PROMOTED..THEN THINK AGAIN!!
WE’RE LOOKING AT PLAY OFFS AT BEST..AFTER BLACKPOOL.. DON’T PANIC WE’RE STILL 7 POINTS CLEAR WAS THE CRY.. WELL GUESS WHAT..NOW WE’RE ONLY 4 AND BLUES AND READING NOW HAVE A GAME IN HAND. BY THE END OF JANUARY WE WON’T BE IN THE TOP 2 JUST LOOK AT THE NEXT FEW GAMES COMMING UP!.
AS TERRY POINTED OUT..WE’VE BLOWN IT BEFORE..AND ALL THE SIGNS INDICATE WE’RE GONNA BLOW IT AGAIN, NOT A BAD THING THOUGH REALLY..IMAGINE THESE MUPPETS IN THE PREMIER..WE’D MAKE DERBY LOOK LIKE LIVERPOOL.
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this result was coming for ages we have not been playing well if we are serious about promotion the board must buy a central defender with pace and a ball winner why was stearman playing fullback also drop collins drop big chris and give sam a chance keep the faith binda in sunny spain
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Terrible game,terrible performance!!!Im so so glad that Alan Gow failed his medical this week!!! After watching this rubbish against an ordinary-average team containing one of our cast-offs its so glaringly obvious that we need PREMIERSHIP CLASS PLAYERS AND NOW- preferably a central defender and a tough ball winning midfilder in the mould of Alex Rae,Paul Ince or Keith Downing.We also need another ‘in-form’ striker who can change things or give us another option because Sam Vokes carnt do it.We are not good enough to beat the likes of Blackpool,Preston,Sheff Utd etc mid table Championship teams yet we are expecting to get to the Premier League with this squad and then to beat average but established Prem teams like Bolton,Fulam and Middlesbourgh(first 2 games last time in Prem Blackburn 5.1 and Charlton 4.0-and we thought we had an easy start!!!).My fellow Wolves fans you really are kidding yourself if you think the likes of Alan Gow are going to make a differnce to this squad!!! Never have we had such a chance of getting promotion than this year as really we are battling it out with Blues and Reading for a top 2 spot.We need to spend big money on big players otherwise its going to be a case of too litle-too late.Some of you say ‘In MM we Trust’ well rarther you than me! For the couple of good signings hes made such as Kightly,SEB,Foley you have Potter,Elliot & Collins.MM isnt bothered what the fans think,look at last season,he gives our worst player Collins a FOUR YEAR CONTRACT-KERCHING! and sells our most creative goal scorer Eastwood after keeping him on the bench almost 3 quarters of the season! Everyone is screaming out for a top central defender but MM will probebly spite the fans and buy another Championship ‘never will be’ striker!! The presures on and this squad isnt good enough to handle it! The natives are getting restless,2-3 weeks to sort it otherwise play-offs lottery becons at best.
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Perhaps the happy clappers will begin to understand why some of us loyal fans moaned about the points dropped against Sheffield United. A bad result against Bristol and we could be second after we’ve played Reading. The pressure will be really on if that happens.
Dropping Dave Jones is no longer looking so clever. Edwards has been poor the last few games. His distribution has been awful and we have no midfield control. Henry seems to have forgotten how to pass forwards.
Tinkering with the defence has really unsettled things. Stearman was uncomfortable at right back at Blackpool, so why put him there again. We’d have been better off with him back in the middle, play Hill at left back and try Shackell or utility man Ward on the right. We really missed Foley today.
The passing was poor throughout the team. Iwulemo seems to have lost the ability to win the ball or knock it down for a Wolves player. Perhaps it’s time to give Vokes a start.
However, looking on the bright side we’ll come back from this and win the next seven games.
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I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR WEEKS THAT WE SHOULD RID OURSELVES OF EBANKS AND CHRIS AS THEY HAVE BEEN NOTHING MORE THAN AN EARLY SEASON ‘FLASH IN THE PAN’ AND PLAY FOR THEMSELVES NOT THE TEAM.
WHAT DO THEY SAY, WOLVES ARE A TEAM OF CHAMPIONS, NOT A CHAMPION TEAM, AND WILL STRUGGLE TO BE PROMOTED THROUGH THE PLAY OFFS.
THE BUBBLE BURST IN NOVEMBER AND MAD MICK HAS NOT ADDRESSED THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT AS GOOD AS HE DREAMS, AND THAT SEVERAL PLAYERS SHOULD BE WARMING THE BENCHES OF A DIVISION 2 CLUB.
AFTER WATCHING READING TAKE WATFORD APART THEY DESERVE TO BE PROMOTED , AND I FEAR FOR WOLVES IN THESE NEXT FEW WEEKS WITH THE SLIDE DOWN THE DIVISION THAT THEY WILL BE TAKING, NO RISK.
TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT YOURSELF MICK…WOLVES ARE DESTINED FOR CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL NEXT SEASON UNLESS YOU DO SOMETHING RADICAL NOW.
OR PERHAPS YOU SHOULD CONSIDER REMOVING YOURSELF AND ALLOW STEVE BULL TO TAKE OVER.
WE ARE IN DEEP TROUBLE !!!!!!
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Can’t win them all, can’t play well all the time.
Young team still learning.
But they do need to think about what went wrong, and learn from it.
ONE bad game goes not the season end !!!
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A result that has been coming, poor performance are some these players are good as the hype suggests? Kites been below par of late, Iwelumo was poor and part from his goal SEB is not been too good either.
I’ve been reading Leicester city supporters reviews on Mark Davies on another forum, they all raving about him. Describing him as a class player and one compared him to Gazza, I fear Mick will off load him beacuse his face don’t fit with his favourites. Hope Micky see’s the light and bring him back because we need him in our poor midfield.
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“which cut Wolves’ lead to four points, their two and a half month strangle hold is looking as precarious as ever.”
precarious?! Since when has a 4 point gap over a team been precarious? Especially at the top of the table, Precarious is when your one loss away from relegation IMO
over exciting the situation again…
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We must be prepared to pay top dollar for quality players.
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after todays performance i think we need to test the water and put a good 5 million cash under big phil scolaris nose and see just how tempted he could be to cash in on mancienne after all its reported that there is no longer a huge reserve of cash at stamford bridge and the manager has to sell to buy
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More square pegs in round holes !
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“Wolves’ hold on the Championship lead was left looking fragile after two-goal Stephen Elliott saw them lose to Preston at Molineux.”
What that headline did not emphasise was that Wolves played like a mid-table team, with no dreams of automatic qualification.
To get automatic a team has to be a ruthless qualification machine, refusing to accept loss.
We were like a lot of cocker spaniels, rolling over for a tummy rub.
Promotion; forget it. This team would be fighting relegation in 2 months time if we did not already have so many points under our belts!
The season is over!
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we need a new midfield …also …no way should stearman be playing right back !!..get him back in the center .
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Oh Dear! I hope this is just a blip, but it looks as though the recent performances have taken a steady decline resulting in this ‘embarrasing show’. I think Big Mick is a bit clouded in his judgement if he thinks we don’t need to bolster this defence in the transfer window. Collins is a liability & considering we have two of the most promising Goalies around they ain’t performing and further up the park where’s the threat from the ‘Previously Unstoppable Ebanks-Blake & Iwelumo fed by Kightly & Jarvis? Have teams done their homework and snuffed out the early threat? Somehow it looks like the spark has dissapeared. We need to add some quality to this squad or it’s the dreaded ‘Play-offs again’ and we’ve been given a seven point head start after Christmas. Reading will not make stupid errors like we do….at least not as often anyway. Come on Mick you can kid yourself but you can’t kid the fans ‘there may be a lot of days left in this transfer window’ as you hinted in the Star but by then we could be in the chasing pack. All the rest of us can do is Keep the Faith!!!! Just a quick note to ‘TERRY GOT A NEW TOP BAGGIE’ I reckon you’d be better off concentrating on your own boards, don’t you we’ve got it to throw away you lot need help more than we do, Mowbray won’t get you lot up again when your Bounce, Bounce, Baggies!!come down this time!
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two words – McCarthy Out rofl, thought I’d do it before everyone else did.
Seriuosly though we’ve not been playing well for a while and you can’t keep getting away with it. Mick acknowledges the poor defending but more worrying is the lack of chances we created. Reading will def win league and if Birmingham signings have an impact, its play offs for us,
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Case for the defence – Enuff said eh Mick?
Get someone in before its too late, why is every other club busy in the market and we are still after forwards, build from the back!!!! Midfield is so poor no creativity, no battling no clue.
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what a shambles it was.
defence?
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I have to laugh.. We are no where near good enough. I get slagged off on this board every time I say it, but I suspect the penny maybe dropping with most of you now.
We have no cover for any first team place at all, apart from the goalies. If a left back is injured, we shuffle the whole back four. If the right back goes, we do the same. If we lose a winger, then we do the same again ( remember blackpool).
Henry and Edwatds are no where near good enough. I’ve been saying Hentrey is not good enough for 18 months. The centre midfield is a complete disaster area.
This team will finish 4th or 5th and lose in the play offs. Sorry, but I’m afraid that’s what will happen.
QPR, Blackpool, Sheffield Utd and now Preston. Come on guys get real. Mad Mick needs a rocket shoved up somewhere and sign some players now, but whatever happens, it wont be a promo party this year.
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bring back mark davis the boy is top class and a premership player he scored again saterday. edwards henry johns dont come close to the class of davis.
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need 2 get another centre half n 2 holding midfielders in the centre desperatly!
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Let’s have no more talk about “not needing a centreback” Come on Mick sort it out
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Mark Davies was MOM for leicester yesterday, One goal and two assists (got the pen) for a top of the league club one league below us. If he wasn’t a Wolves player already we’d probably be having him scouted with an idea to signing him! GET HIM BACK MICK!
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This result has been coming for a while and it is impotant we bounce back soon. We need to get a comfy two goal win and then we will be rolling again. On this showing we do need to do some business in the January Transfer window, particularly to boost the central midfield.
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What a disgrace – this is relegation form, getting turned over so comprehensively against someone we did the same to less than four months ago. As I have said before 2 priorities centre midfield, centre defence, possibly even two central defenders, one young and hungry and perhaps a prem. player on loan. I do feel though that we should go and buy the best players available who can make an impact regardless of position if we are not to squander the top two very rapidly.
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Nightmare – only one positive from this – Its a damn good kick up the backside. Hope the lads realise now that we have no divine right to win this league. We can only come back stronger.
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Terry, your season was over in August. You’re going down the Mowbray way! As for us Golden Wanderers, we’ve lost our way a little, but we’ll be back. I expect we’ll have a new defender or two, an new central midfielder and possibly a new striker before the end of the month. It’s time for Mr Morgan to get the cheque book out and put his money where his mouth is. If Mr Morgan wants a Premier League team, he’s gonna have to invest to get it. As for McCarthy, I think he’ll put the lads straight. One or two have lost confidence, but they’ll get it back. If we can put 2 or 3 goals past Bristol City, without reply, we’ll be on our way again. Come on Wolves. Obama says, “YES WE CAN!”
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again mcarthy lacks details how to beat teams that play with “one up front”.please get a manager that can sort out these problems. maybe sean o’dissold from doncaster
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All promises but no action. At this rate we won’t even make the playoffs.
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Wolves have won three titles of the nation.Wolves have won four FA Cups.Wolves have played in MAJOR European competions.That’s something West Bromich won’t be doing.
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absolute disgrace…bubble has birst…rubbish!!
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you are not starting a full squad stearman at right back NEW PLAYERS he ‘s wasting his money not starting friend,mark little and we need a new centre midfielder re-call davies
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Long way to go yet!
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You mean bounced back from a poor, short run of form?
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Preston look like they could get close to automatic this season – Wolves Champions, then one of either Reading,Cardiff or Preston for second place – think the blues will slip up during the run in.
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Too gutted to comment since I am determined not to be negative. Trying to look on the bright side and am going to Bristol next week. HELP! Does anybody know of a pub near Ashton Gate in which Wolves fans are welcome?
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when sundeland were relegated from prem they conceded 105 goals,MM happy with his Defence Ward not a left back Collins just not anything But MM will not waver in his belief.Moxey again balancing books Morgan can blame the Credit Crunch.NOW we will see the real ambition of this club.
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Where are the following this morning??
A14 Wolf
Matt
Loyal Cannock Wolf
All having a pop at me for saying Collins wasn’t good enough. Please explain where he was for the first and third goals and how he managed to miss an open goal???
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Some of you guys make me sick. Granted, some of you go every week and happy clappers are annoying, but we are top and we have won two thirds of our games. ‘Flash in the pan’ it has not been, our performances of late have not been like the first 18 or 20 games but every team has a dip. Anyone would think we were in the bottom 3! We have not had much money and yet some how Mic has taken us to the top, and we have been there for a while. We are having a wobble but we have too much to let it all slip. The lads need us to get behind them….just imagine if you were a Charlton fan reading these boards. Get real people, we are top and can snap out of this bad spell soon.
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Some of you lot are unbelievable and a disgrace to the club. We are top of the league four points clear. We are one of the youngest most inexperienced top flight teams in the division. I think saturdays performance was a shambles. But needless to say, our players need a kick up the arse, to get them going again, and also a few home truths need to be addressed, such as the Kightly, Ebanks-Blake and Iwelumo situation. I would drop them all, and put a few hungry faces in like, Keogh and Vokes and Wardy left wing, with Jarvis right wing. I Think its crucial we stay focused, on grinding results out. Every team are going to come at us, all guns blazing, at the opportunity of beating top of the league. Therefore lay off the manager. Mick has done well so far. Dont forget, these lads could be producing the goods in training deserving a shirt on the day, and not performing well when playing. In which its the players and not the manager. I still believe we will go up, but perhaps, top of the league (as champions) is a bit much to ask considering, we have teams below us, playing good football, with premiership proven and experienced players.I think 2nd, or play offs. I still think that the right results will see us top though. Still got the faith. Theres still a lot of games to play. Up the wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jez Moxey stooges come on this site saying what a good job he is doing.Saturday’s game provided yet another reminder of his many failures.4 and a bit years ago we gave a trial to Mawene who was available on a free.I went to the game away at Mansfield.He played well Wolves fans chanted ‘sign him up’.Moxey only ofered him a 12 month contract and he went straight up the M6 and signed for Preston.Mawene has proved to be a bargain for Preston and on Saturday looked miles better than our centre backs.
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Hennessey to Newcastle?
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hahahaha. This is just funny. THE ANGER!!!!!
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Told you before
Wardx2 Collins keogh potter edwards Freind and a lot more,these type of players that we seem to want all the time are just not good enough, however we do have a quality player but he is playing for leister, MM has no plan B and does what ever Moxey tells him. Forget the prem with this shower do you really think we would win a game.
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Wolves fans in Unison ! just a pity its under these circumstances.
I’ve been bleating on about our defence for an age and if mancienne’s recall wasnt a red flag then i dont know meds mick is on.
as mentioned this result was coming for a while and is a very real reason to panic.
get some quality in at the back and please, for the love of all things gold, leave all your love children at home.
Brum and Reading next – oh dear.
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I think we need to calm down ,i was furious on saturday and it was poor…very poor.But we have a chance to put that right tommorow,forget all this talk of concentrate on the league we need form and it start tommorow at blues.We need the right team selection if no foley then henry at right full back stearman and craddock [he is fit}at centre backh and hill at left full back rsst team picks its self with vokes and keogh up front,thats what i think anyway!Bring back davies for bristol on saturday.
Up the Wolves!!!!
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The signs were there against Sheff Utd and Blackpool and IMO the result on Sat was not a blip .The players are doing their best but in the end quality will count.We try to get a player for £250,000 and Blues bid £3,500,000 for a Scottish international which says it all.MM cannot keep producing gems like Keightly- there has to come a time(and it is NOW)where he is allowed to purchase some quality players.I just dont think the board however are ambitious enough to do it. Finally it would seem M davies had a great game on Sat the fans shouting sign him up.He is (when fit) easily our best midfield player.Get him back!!!
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What i disgrace, the performances for weeks have been lacking and MM has once again been left inept.
Collins is not fit to wear the shirt – out.
Ward has been torn apart on the weeks too often – out.
Keogh – Out.
Davies – Back we need his drive and running.
Stearman – needs to play his onw position.
Kightly – out of form for weeks – should have signed sinclair and left Kightly on the bench to get some hunger back.
Friend – deserves a run as Hill is a pub player.
Hennesey – if Newcastle want him we should drive him there!
MM – time is running out!
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58. and 59.
Get real. Mick’s acheived nothing yet. The point is, this team isn’t good enough, and most people recognise that his tactics are terrible. Have you ever seen John Terry play right back?? Then why play Stearman there.
Collins is no where near good enough. Ward isn’t a left back ( or left winger) .. the list goes on…
We’ve no cover for any first team position other than the goalies ( and with the exception of Matt Murray, they are no more than average)..
This team is going nowhere.
Mick for a 4th Term anyone??
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I can see why Mick needs new midfield players. We give the ball away far too easily and against Blackpool it was evident we could not stamp any authority on the game. It’s not only the defence (but Stearman at fullback?) because too often they were exposed. We are again missing chances some of which are unforgivable.
However we can use the brum game to perhaps give a kid a chance but I bet that this game costs us at least one serious injury and that is my worry.
However I think we are capable of turning this round and remember 75 points are needed for the playoffs so another 18 or six wins will see us there at least.
We MUST stop giving the ball away and missing chances……..
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I SAY B R I N G O N T H E W O M E N . Any good general would always create a diversion to win a war, that should do the trick.
We could do with their 19 goals to boost the G D.
UP THE WOLVES.
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65. I think you have a similar opinion to what i think. Our biggest stars are simply just not performing at the moment. The 1st season under Mick McCarthy saw some young and very talented players such as Mark Little and Mark Davies. We need to give players like this the chance to shine again. That season saw some fantastic results and performances from the young and lesser experienced players. They all have pace and the hunger to put their all in to the game. Our best assests at the moment are our full backs Foley and Ward, who when came on at Blackpool looked outstanding Stephen Ward. At the start of this season, we were playing good football, when every player on the field were getting involved in the action and style of play and progressing up the pitch with tremendos power and pace up both flanks and in the box. At the moment its gone missing. And i thnik this is because the full backs simply arent overlapping or showing any interest in knocking the ball about and playing it through up to the wingers, instead of central. I think with the right centre-back brought in, because another CB is inneviatable without Mancienne, we will look more sturdy at the back. Mick needs to start playing football though. If you look at Blues and Reading and even Burnley and Sheffield Utd, they all play attractive football, and rarely give the ball away cheaply. I think the cup game will be good, because its something else to look forward to. As we can forget about the league and enjoy something different and the opportunity of another derby. Also might give us a fresh start. to give us confidence going into Bristol City. Up the wolves !!!!!!!!!!!
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26 no we can’t play well all the time but saturday was painful to watch. Come on the the lads get your act together
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Another 3 poor goals we’ve conceded but still don’t agree with booing :/ thing that’s annoying me is the way we can’t keep a lead for longer then 5 minutes anymore! Birmingham tomorrow, i’m not bothered about the FA cup, more bothered about Bristol City and Reading games coming up, let’s hope we can get back to winning ways! UTW
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I read yesterday what Karen Brady wrote about Birminghams signing of Lee Bowyer,she said the twelve week loan is going to cost us a lot of money,but iff we get where we want to be it will be worth it.Today I see they are after spending another million on a defender.Birmingham with their strong squad still see the need to strenthen,,,do their management want it more than ours…I keep saying it but iff a club like ours cant afford to spend,who can??how much longer are we going to be fobbed off we keep buying the tickets,we get better crowds than a lot of premiership clubs,where does the money go??Its time Mr Morgan put his hand in his pocket,he got our club for a tenner and up to yet he hasnt spent a penny on players,any signing we have made has been self financing,,iff Wolverhampton Wanderers cant buy players,the others have no chance.
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some calm & some perspective needed here. There is a lot of CAPS LOCKS and long posts. We were very poor. But Mick will know what we need to do. He’s earned the right to turn it around plus there is still 3 weeks left in the transfer window.
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Listen to yourselves.
You’re a disgrace, we have lost 1 in 6 & taken 11 points from those games apparently that is relagation form according to an earlier post???
Support the team through thick & thin!!!!
Yes we were poor on Saturday, really poor & MM needs to earn his money right now, but we need calm heads, fans especially.
If we panic we will blow it.
Keep the faith
Wolves forever
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People finally waking up to the fact we’ve been getting away with murder for the last 3 months. One thing I can’t understand tho is people slagging off Blake. He’s a goalscorer ffs & he is doing that very nicely indeed with little or no service from our non existent midfield. Wake up!! we have a few problems but he is not one of them.
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I guessed this might happen because Tony went ,yes he was there first time since 1951 he was almost in tears when he got back it will be a long time before he goes again.
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75, I quite agree.
There’s still a long way to go, when we play Bristol City away, Reading have got Swansea away followed by us and then QPR away so not easy games by any means.
Yes we need to strengthen but I’m sure Mick knows that, would we really want somebody as potentially unsettling as Bowyer in our dressing room filling the heads of our young cubs with his Billy big time attitude?
I think not.
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Probably Mick played Stearman at right-back because that’s where he played frequently at Leicester.
Collins was possibly our best defender. Certainly he was better than Shackell and Ikeme.
I think there’s some perspective missing. Mick has assembled a team without spending a lot of money. Blame that on Morgan/Moxey if you must. They’re young and they’ll only get better – if they get the support they deserve.
Top of the league is great, but none of us should be expecting it as divine right. Both the Blues and Reading have got more money, and players with Premier League experience. At the moment, we’re still over-achieving.
So, give Mick a 4th year ? Definitely – even if we don’t go up this year.
And if any of you would fire him, then go ahead and name the managers in the Championship who deserve to keep their jobs.
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74-yes Blues investing whilst still offering an early bird renewal for next season at 10% OFF THIS SEASONS PRICES. No doubt we will get the chance to pay even more by Jez to reward our loyalty in difficult economic times.
Back to Saturday, when will MM get rid of his blindspot that is Collins?, if you effectively give your opposition a goal start each game you struggle to win when overall form dips from that of early season.Effort counts for nothing when you simply do not have the necessary ability.
Is Little, the natural cover for Foley still injured ? , unless we sort out the defence it will all go wrong this season.
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79 yorkshire,,,what Billy big time attitude is that,,Paul Ince,billy big time attitude didnt do us so bad.
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Standing on a freezing South Bank watching that garbage (when your nads are practically dropping off) was hard to stomach. I thought Sylvan was the best player on show in a Gold shirt, though.
No time to panic and the team needs our undying support, however we can’t gloss over what’s wrong. That defence is leakier than an oil sump on a clapped out Morris Marina. Anyone who doubted that Mancienne’s loss wouldn’t be felt too much should think again.
Collins is a tireless worker, gives his all and is solid in the air -but on the deck he’s a total liability.
Karl Henry’s form worries me, too. As Captain, he needs to show leadership and bang a few heads together when necessary. When we were losing the midfield battle, I expected him to step up to the challenge and get the lads cracking -like Incey would have. He didn’t so time for a rest, maybe?
The oppo have finally sussed Wolves out, now. We’re being sucked-in and exploited on the break. We’re conceding at an alarming rate whilst the goals are getting harder to come by. There’s no Plan B from what I can see, and the sheer tenacity in our tackles is missing…think back a couple of seasons to see the drop in “in your face” football. Prettier we may be, but not half so effective when the going gets tough these days.
I see Mark Davies bagged another goal for the Foxes. Time for a recall, Mick? Potter aint the alternative -gimme Davies any day.
Anyway, the game’s over so let’s just get the Blouses game out of the way tomorrow and prepare for the next league match. Hopefully, this latest kick up the backside will give the boys something to think about -and especially Mick.
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Most of the blame for Saturday has to go on the two centrebacks and Ikeme. They haven’t played together regularly and it showed. No one took responsibility and there was no communication. That’s why Preston were able to grab such scrappy goals.
Contrast that with the other end of the pitch. Preston marked well giving no room at all to our strikers and wingers. In those situations you need a little invention from central midfield but we simply don’t have that.
This highlights our lack of strength in depth. We need to invest in some quality players for defence, midfield and up front. It is time we put sentiment aside and cleared out all of those players who are not capable of making it at this level (let alone beyond). Invest in some real quality, not just as cover but to provide competition for our “star” players.
And for goodness sake, bring back Mark Davies. He’s proved his fit now and he has more invention than the rest of our midfield put together.
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80… Collins was possibly our best defender??
So please explain where he was for the first goal when Elliott cut across him and tapped into an empty net?? Wasn’t he marking Parkin for the second when he had a free header?? Wasn’t he marking Elliott for the third??
Oh and don’t forget the open goal where he decided to try and control the ball 4 yards out.
Were you actually at the game? Collins was and always has been a shambles, and his fellow lovechild Ward isn’t a full back either.
I think it sums up McCarthy that Ward was preferred against Sheffield to Mancienne. A Chelsea player, England U21 and full England squad and he plays Ward. Shocking.
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82, Agreed, but……..
A,Bowyer is a thug.
B,He’s certainly NO Paul Ince
and C, He’ll be on about 40k a week.
I said we do need to strengthen but you and I know there won’t be anybody coming here on that kind of money, that’s just a fact.
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Collins Out Wolf
You are one of the supporters that should be ashamed to call yourself a fan.
I think Collins is a good player, young but still learning. Dont forget the points he single handedly won us against Doncaster. I think you need to take a look underneath your skin to see if your colours are Blue and White, because it certainly aint Wolves colours. I understand your frustration, but singling out, is not needed. As i see it, you win as a team, and you lose as a team. And i can honestly say, and probably so can Mick McCarthy that THE TEAM has NOT been producing the goods and good performances of late.
Its wrong to single people out. Last season, I think it was against Sheff Wed at home, when Collins came on as a sub, and he was booed. I was disgusted. That should never happen, and you expect the lad to play with his heart, when you fill it full of disown and hurt. I like Collins. Granted not always has his best games, but also think he deserves to wear the gold shirt with pride.
And so should Stephen Ward, MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!!
COME ON YOU WOLVES !!!!!!!!!!!
LETS PICK OURSELVES US AND STRIVE ON !!!!!!!!
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Liam Wolf – you’re an idiot. If you think Ward and Collins are good enough then you don’t know much about football. Reading took us apart when they were playing as they have premier quality players. The reason we are top is because of the form of Iwelumo and Ebanks earlier in the season, who put us out of sight before liability Collins got in on the act.
How Collins can be described as young and still learning is beyond me. He’s in his mid 20′s, not 15. Although sometimes his performances remind me of a 15 year old.
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Collins out Wolf, must admit your comment made me laugh, Liam-wolf, have you ever been to a wolves match, are you a table watching hopeful?
Are you also a keogh hater?
Opinions are opinions and ppl post what they want,
Win as a team? and with a couple of very weak links in a team it aint gonna win, i can see why you never went into football management!
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You have a good point, Reading did take us apart, down to all the back four having a shocker and also to the fact that, against Reading nobody played well.
Collins is indeed in his mid 20s as he is 25, but isnt that still quite young to say the average age of a defender retiring is about 32/33. He scores important goals like at Doncaster and Sheff Utd and tries hard, Stearman has been performing not to his best too. Neither did Shackle.The back four are all good players. FOLEY, STEARMAN, COLLINS AND HILL OR WARD. But do need to work as a unit too.
As I’ve said before, the blame should be on the team and not an individual.
And your the idiot, for thinking that Ward is that bad. At blackpool away, he was the only influence in the 2nd half to try and get us the points.
Iwelumo and Ebanks-Blake need a few home truths delivered, because they are simply not producing the goods that they can. They must think they are gods given gift. Because the last few appearence from both strikers for me have lacked enthusiasm and energy and desire to stay in the starting eleven. Keogh and Vokes up front tomorrow.
Perhaps, we will see more effort and chasing down from the both of them.
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Yes we are top after 26 matches if you like half way through a race it’s the next 22 that matter only the top two go up automatically so we are 4 points better than second, after the past 5 games I would estimate the form to be mid-table performance so we have to improve 25% to get back to top form.
Not easy to do without a change of formation attacking and solid defending the question is can we do that, do we have the right balance of players, we may be short of experience to finish the race in front, we will see.
There is one player we will miss and he his Michael Mancienne what ever Mick says about the defence, that he has no problems, Mr Collins will never replace Michael and that is only referring to reading the game, regarding football talent, sorry but not within a 100 metres.
Can we buy someone of his calibre, not for £300,000 if we don’t spend soon we may end up with most cost effective team in the prem but it won’t last, Class D horse’s just don’t beat group1,2 or 3 horse’s week in week out at level weight that’s and fact humans are not much diferent.
We have got a problem at the back it was plain enough to see on Saturday and the other teams have weighted up blakie and lumo, not there fault we just need to change the approach instead of being I one trick attack, a few 25 yarders wouldn’t go a miss.
We have to improve or loose the race its that simple.
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I like that liam-wolf, you say you cant blame players then you blame iwelumo and blake.
Sounds like you too pick out individuals and not the team, if you want to blame the team why not blame the manager and the staff there too?
Regarding blackpool game, wasnt Jarvis given man of the match? yeah ward did really well didnt he.
Loser
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Wolfy in disguise
Do you go to the matches?
probably not.
I go up when I can, I have a job that on most weekends I am working. I have been to Accrington Stanley at home, Sheffield Wednesday at home, Swansea away and Swansea at home. I have watched all the sky games live and never miss the championship on Itv and BIG league weekend 2 on Sky Sports.
I think you probably wouldnt be able to manage a football team unless you are a Sunday League version of Mourinho.
And may i say that I think Keogh is a fantastic player. We all knew when we borught in Keogh that he wasnt a 20 goal a season goalscorer. Hardworking, a briliant pass and mover and comes up with a few goals.
But he is willing to work incredibily hard to get in the side.
Take a look at the side when we played the Albion at home in the play offs. Collins were in that side, and was tremendos, Breen let us down a bit, but Kamara perhaps had the best season of his career, and not to mention the ever scoring premiership quality Kevin Philips
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there’s certainly a lot of heated debate on here but there is a common thread – the team, as a whole HAVE NOT BEEN PERFORMING for a while now.
And instead of lifting the others up to their level, Kightly and SEB seem to have gone the other way.
But our defence has been weak all season long. Mancienne gave us a slight breather but mick is having complete brain fade if Friend Hill or Shackle are the answer.
We also clearly missed Wayne yelling out commands on Sat and the sooner he is back between the sticks the better. mick, sell wayne at your peril fella.
nothing good to take from the weekends game except the 11 out there stated the bleeding obvious. WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
3 questions:
Why is Davies, who is a big part of Leicester’s form not brought back.
Why is Vokes not given a full run out – SEB and Chris are woeful at the minute
If you are bringing in fringe players, why not bring in the decent ones like DENES ROSA
2 or 3 atleast in the transfer.
tick tock mick
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No, i’m just saying that Iwelumo and Ebanks need to show more desire, as well as Henry and the resr of our midfield and defenders, dont you agree? And to be fair. The manager cant put on a gold shirt and play on the pitch. McCarthy is doing well and at the end of the day, its the players on the pitch that win you games too not just the manager and backroom staff.
And Jarvis has been fantastic against QPR and Blackpool and also Sheff Utd. But Ward for me changed the game and got us advancing into more threatening positions.
Anyway, I dont know, why i’m going on like this, i’m not the doom and gloom, because i believe we will turn it around and still get promotion just like i have stated some comments ago.
I’VE STILL GOT THE FAITH IN US.
UP THE WOLVES!
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Why the hell is Karl Henry the captain how does get into the team 25 league appearances = no goals for a midfielder says it all get of Collins back always gives 100%
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Liam-Wolf
Mate you dont know what your on about!!! Collins is in the team to DEFEND not score goals! OK so hes scored two important goals but his positional sence as a defender is non existant,the Preston game was one of several this season where Collins defending has cost us goals. Mad Mick is starting to live up to his name,Stearman has been absolute quality all season in the centre so MM moves him to the right-wheres the logic in that???-dosent matter where he played last season for Leicester-THEY WENT DOWN! We offered £2.5m for Berra at the start of the season but never followed it up now half the Prem are after him.Mannciane had the quality we badly need but MM wont spend the money.If this is not the case and its Mox & Morgan who are refusing to spend then MM should come out and say it.Next league game away to Bristol City-a very hard game especialy as we’re linked with their best player followed by Reading away.This is not just a blip,the performances have been poor for ages which would be ok if we were still winning but we’ve now started to let silly goals in and even after we had a goal start and at home we still couldnt beat an average team like Preston.All will be rosey in the garden again if we win our next two league games but with the same team and formation as Saturdays i carnt see that happening myself…
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Liam-wolf
Ive probably been to more matches than you have worked weekends.
Nothing wrong with sunday league football, thats where most footballers start, and in some cases maybe some of our players should go there and go back to basics, or just stay,
I dont mind!
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I dont think that we should be singling anyone out at the moment. What we need to ask ourselves is that, Can we overcome our complacency? I think that the wolves squad need a reality check thats all nothing harsh but nothing nice. the squad need to just watch back over tapes they performed well and analyse what they did well. Theres no piont arguing because we dont know how the rest of the season will turn out at the moment and theres no point shifting blame to individuals and especially not ‘Super Mick’ becuase its down to complacency of the players on the field.
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love how people says Morgan ay spent a penny yet!!! spent a bit in summer on few players who have come in and done well i.e. big chris and dave jones!!! ok we got rid of a few but how can any1 say its all been self financed how the bleedin hell do u lot know!!! u assume simple as that!!! get in the real world!!! weve got a good set of lads and i completly agree we could strengthen but i think that goes for every club in the world could always get better!!! fact is not about running away with league and spending shead loads of dough its about being competitive on and off the pitch and sitting on top of the league with some very reasonable players is being competitive enough for me!!
u cant buy success long term any way its all about stability e.g. united are stable and the best club in world were as chelsea brought 2 years of success and now although at competing nowever near how good they should b for the money thev’e spent!!! we were poor on weekend granted, but i garuntee now they aint all sittin in there now thinkin ‘o well never mind’ they’ll be looking to get back to it!!! lets get behind the lads, have faith in a new Board and get behind a manager that has proved time and time again that he can have us playing some exceptional football!!!!
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It’s only 1 defeat, Preston knew we had dropped points the previous 2 games and wanted revenge for the 3-1 beating at their place.
Get at least 4 points in the next 2 games (avoiding defeat at Reading), then winnable games against Watford, Coventry and Norwich coming up. I don’t believe Reading are as good as the’re made out to be.
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93 there is no way you should be talking about football iff you can say Andy Keogh is a fantastic footballer, Jesus
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85. Collins Out Wolf
Yes – I was at the game. Pretty harsh to blame Collins for all 3 goals. You blame him for not picking up Elliott (twice) and Parkin, too – so who was he marking ? Or is he always to blame, regardless ?
So why did Ikeme come half way for the second, and who allowed St Ledger to tap in ? On the third, Parkin was free in the box, tried to shoot and scuffed it straight to Elliott. Who was marking Parkin ? (or was that Collins, again ?).
Fact is, the whole defence was poor and picking out Collins is just ugly scapegoating.
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ugly scapegoating, so praising him as the best player isnt contradicting you saying the whole defence was poor?
Mixed opinions here!
Why not just agree they were all poor!
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I Have previously not read previous comments and basicaly do not wish to – beacuse there will be so much negagtivity published. Yes I was there on Saturday and i witnessed a very Bad Performance. Our Defending was “poor – rubbish” to say the least. I would say the Defence was “Tinkered” with again – Stearman our best defender even when Mancienne was in the Team Should be in the CENTRE.No Football fan would disagree – Mick Please explain.
The worst thing for me was the lack of “Craft” and Qulality – Ok Preston are no Mugs and please give them credit – But we need to be in the Top Flight and I’m concerned that at present we need quality. We have been poor since Sheffield United Away in November & whilst we won the Match we took a good hiding physically.Kites and Iweloumo have not played anything like their form since. Is it me but
have we thought we were better than we really are.
Both Mick and the Board need to look closely and determine what’s to be done. We’re all behind them nearly 27000 on Saturday need a better performance than the one we saw. All of you Fans Keep the Faith.
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First defeat since September 2008 at home A ref that certainly needed a visit to the optician. Come on guys get it into perspective and back the team.Picking on a few seems very churlish to me as a team is a team not one or two players
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100 Bill,,what you do Bill you add up what we get for players like big George to Stoke,Freddy to Coventry,,then you take away what you spend,iff you are left with any money its called profit so Mr Morgan doesnt have to put his hand in his pocket,,Thats how us us lot know,,we dow assume simple as that…Shall we get behind the lads,,where would you be without that saying,,
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Please can we just get Kightly and Jarvis hugging the touchline again, taking on their full-backs and whipping in crosses?!? I’m sure other people have noticed this at the games, but I’ve seen a lot of drifting in field, with these two being arguably our most dangerous players, they’re getting too close to the strikers and crowded out. This coupled with our obvious lack of a combative midfielder is losing us the midfield. I think we could do with getting back to our strengths a bit, and playing a wide 4-4-2. Also, I think the time has come to maybe give Vokes a couple of starts, if anything just to give Big Chris a bit more impertus to do more than just concede free kicks!
Obviously everyone is talking about new faces, but I think we’ve already got a promotion standard team. Granted you don’t lose a player of Mancienne’s obvious quality and just carry on regardless. But I think our squad is good enough, they just need to simplify things a little.
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Some of these comments are an absolute disgrace and so embarassing to read. The most ridiculous is comment 25, do you really know anything about football?SEB is the best finisher we’ve had since Bully and Keano and Iwelumo has been a relevation since his move. Just because he hasnt scored for 6 games doesnt mean that he is a division 2 bench warmer. Without these two we would be bottom haf of the table and then that would be something to moan about. Not top of the league and one really bad performance. Get over yourselves and stop being so petty and unbelievably pathetic and last thing comment 47, Sean O’Driscoll you being serious?one of the best things about this club in the past three years is that McCarthy has been in charge.
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57 are you collins ex girlfriend or somthin yes he was very poor but werw the other 10 any better dont think so its all been said on here keep the faith i wouldnt worry about this year i will worry when were promoted to see wether mick can do anythin then cause only 3 good enough jarvis elokobi foley note i havent mentioned stearman he should be just as good at right back and didnt do it leicesters best player supposedly in that posistion think
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Collins out Wolf
I agree with everything you say. At least someone on here knows what a good footballer is, and what a bad one is too!!
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cant win them all .. ? First defeat since Sep 08.. what games do you lot watch.
The last 6 or so games have been disgraceful…. thats 6 (six) and I see no reason whatsoever that mick knows how to shift this slump. Perhaps we should try playing people in different positions… oh wait.
new blood is all that will do.
Blues are without pretty much everyone for tonites game and I still dont think we stand a chance… come on Wolves prove me wrong, i would love you to prove me wrong.
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I’m right cross about the way we played on Saturday, this is not a Championship winning team!
Dramatic changes are needed, and that doesn’t mean playing Potter!
The centre-half-backs is where I think we are weakest, we are letting too many get past and not supplying the forwards with the balls they need.
Some class is needed, the rest of this young team then respond to that inspiration. The need for wing cover has been an issue for all the time Mick has been here, except for that short period when Carlos Edwards was on loan to us. We were also scoring for fun in those days.
Finger out, no round pegs in square holes and keep it simple. It works for the Villa!
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49. West Bromwich are the current football league champions. We’re not talking about an achievement from half a century ago here, but last year. They’ve won the English league title, 5 FA cups (that’s right, one more than Wolves), and also played in MAJOR European competition. I’m not sure what point you were trying to make?
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