Yobs’ pride at prison ‘qualification’

Sunday 23rd November 2008, 10:59AM GMT.

The articles concerning the young men of Low Hill, and similar ones frequently reported in every newspaper, are depressing, to say the least – certainly for respectable people of all ages.

As a teacher in the 1970s who had to deal with such pupils, both male and female, I believe, and I am sure my ex-colleagues do too, that the deep-seated problem for these young people is lack of education.

Probably from infant school their progress is limited due to their attitude, which is almost certainly

supported by or due to their parents. Consequently, the basic academic skills would be lacking maybe at the age of seven. Since no praise is forthcoming from school they have to make their presence felt by other channels. It is horrifying that this attitude and lack of progress will continue for another eight years or so, increasing in intensity almost weekly.

Therefore, the judge’s decision not to sentence them to prison is correct. To them, it would only be the same as the sensible, hard-working youngsters obtaining A-levels, with equal pride. The custodial sentence would then give them the extra qualification equivalent to a degree!

What can be done? Many people will say we had the ultimate threat of the cane in those days, but in truth it was rarely used. However, we worked them hard in all subjects, and if insufficient progress was made they stopped in school until it was. I personally have told whingeing parents that this is what is required and if they don’t like it, hard luck.

Therefore, all Asbos should be issued so that recipients are required to attend lessons every day, five days per week until they are brought up to GCSE standard in all subjects, even if this takes five years.

The less time they concentrate the more time it takes, so misbehaviour is not an option. In fact those not progressing enough would also have only bank holidays off plus two weeks in August.

They may also learn that there are many things out there which can inspire them which society will accept. Maybe their parents will then be genuinely proud.

A L Phillips, Sandbourne Drive, Bewdley.


  1. 1
    Andy French

    Well said chap

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    Martin Davies

    The phrase – ‘you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink’ comes to mind.

    Education and parents are certainly part of the problem.

    What we need is perhaps a ‘salty oats’ solution (try eating salty food and see if you still don’t want to drink!).
    How do you make the kids want to learn?

    Unfortunately the schools are hampered by government and society. Government has bright ideas that look good on paper, then its up to schools to implement with little time, funding or help.

    Back in my day, schools had to teach many things I’ve never used since. Instead of such important educational gems like ‘personal finance’, which I ended up doing through the open university.

    School govenor anyone?

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    BRUCE

    When I was younger in the days of the Mobs in Smethwick,West Bromwich,Quinton etc it was considered that there were three educations :
    1 school 2 the street 3 prison or likewise.
    You were meant to be an ace in all three.So the phenomemenon is not new.And not,viz here in the Paris East End,limited to the West Midlands.

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    Johnny Dukes

    Its a lack of identity, hope and respect that is sifting through society. The only hope is to up sticks and move to another country and leave it the scum that the powers that be seem to love and panda to

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  5. 5
    Misery guts

    There IS an alternative; corporal and capital punishment. It’s the ultimate deterrent and it’s the only deterrent these animals will listen to

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    Martin Davies

    Killing for the first offence prevents reoffending.
    I have a feeling that some would say thats too harsh though. Pretty good deterrent though. Never been known to stop people who really want something though.

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