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Moxey denies Berra deal is dead
Friday 4th July 2008, 11:34AM BST.
Wolves chief executive Jez Moxey has denied fresh suggestions surfacing that Wolves have failed with a £2m bid for Hearts defender Christophe Berra.
He states that Wolves’ last bid was £1.5m three to four weeks ago. Speculation now suggests Hearts are trying to hawk Berra to a Premier League club for £3m.
Yet Wolves’ position remains the same. They have not budged on their second offer and they haven’t heard from Hearts that they have missed out on the 24-year-old recently-capped Scottish international.
Wolves remain keen on Peterborough striker Aaron Mclean but won’t pay the £3m up front.
They have also been linked with Charlton striker Chris Iwelumo, after claims they had missed out on Manchester City forward Ched Evans.
There is another body at pre-season training at Molineux, with midfielder Karl Henry returning to training following an operation to have two wisdom teeth removed.
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Whilst I feel we need another good central defender (as we have for two years now) we should not be held to ransom. If it’s not going to happen lets move on to the next young and hungry target.
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After Collins signed his new deal yesterday, most Wolves fans will be looking for Berra to come in alongside Stearman…basically to settle themselves that Collins will not be a regular starter. Berra is the ideal candidate to bring in, young and hungry, Hearts’ Captain & an International. I just hope we are not haggling over 300-400k and end up missing out. How many times has that happened?
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I agree, lets not get sucked in to this just beacuse everyone now knows we have money.
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Agree with 1 – we don’t won’t people to see Morgan as the ‘golden tit’ as was the case with sir Jack, we don’t need to be paying over the odds just because we can, I have faith in Moxey to get is the best deals
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Who else have you been linked with defensively?
I can’t remember anyone else off the top of my head, but I suppose you weren’t linked with Stearman until he’d actually signed were you?!
It seems strange to me that you’re constantly linked with Strikers when all of your fans are crying out for a Centre back and Berra’s the only 1 you’re publicly linked with…..unless I’ve missed it?!
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i think berra’s class, from what ive seen of him, albeit a couple of scotland u21 matches, and 3 matches 4 hearts. i reckon with him our defence is pretty much complete, so i’d walk in strait away with a £2.5m bid. that shud get him. after all, if we dont go up this year, we all know hennessey (if not already), kightly and SEB will be going, along with any1 else who is impressive this year. what im trying to say is, we need to take the gamble!
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if nothing happens i think a.gardner from spurs would come for 2m & would be just as good if not better, dont forget look at what standerd berra’s been playing at.
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Linked with Iwelumo and McLean. We still have several strikers at the club with no or little future (Elliot, Freddie, Bothroyd). We have also signed young Vokes who I’m pleased to see on board. What’s going to happen? As the season looms are we going to accept any half decent offer for such players. These “rejects” have cost Wolves a lot of money – sort out their futures. Looking forward to a successful year. Let’s start the season well and be the front runner!!
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Iwelumo would be good. what you think?
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IM TOTALLY LOST AND CONFUSED!!!
IM JUST GONNA KICK BACK AND RELAX NOW!
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Lets stop mucking about here. Granted we dont want to be golden tits but if we are squabbleing over the odd half a million, lets not, get them in now and lets get the ground running in our pre-season games.
McLean, Berra and 1 extra midfield would be nice.
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I would rather we took the money we were going to use on Mclean and spend it on getting a quality centre back, which is an area we have sadly lacked for a long time
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Agree with 2 stop haggling and get Berra signed
up,its the good players we need to get out of
the championship and he is.
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8. Do you work on the pier at Paignton?. I was there last week and saw a Wulfs coffee mug in a kiosk on the pier. I tried hard to knock it overboard………
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Nedball
Being publicly linked is irrelevant. Doesn’t mean nothing is going on behind the scenes. In addition before impatience sets in, the season starts in 5 weeks time and the transfer window doesn’t close until 31st August.
Whether or not we get Berra, I still think we will get a loan signing from a big premier club, but most of them haven’t even started pe-season yet.
Keep the faith
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is this guy even any good?
Iwelumo is appalling…why are we after him and yet another striker?
Still waiting 2 Centre halves and experienced Centre Midfielder (Stearman is a Right Back)………..only been waiting 2 years for this now.
MICK OUT
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2. Eddie, it has probably NEVER happened in reality – just in the pages of the press and on message-board rumours. Deals get done if they’re there to be done, that’s the reality, and if only we’d start to realise this there’d be a lot less heartache and whinging…
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We need a centre back a centre mid & a striker then we’re ready for a assult on the prem, but untill we get those we’re nothing better than play off hopefulls once again.
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Should we be off loading some strikers BEFORE we start getting them in??? Is Berra the ONLY choice of centre half; and what about the “international scouting network” What are they doing?
Ah well Its Pant wetting season again!
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16- I agree with you as it is ridiculous of that i would only keep craddock , stearman, elokobi and rob edwards. This means we need at least another 3 defenders realistically. I don’t think MM has got a clue really. More of what I think is on the kightly back maclean blog thing.
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IMO we have no hope of going up whoever we buy.MM does not seem to realise the problem last year was not the attack but a lack of creativity in midfield and playing with two wingers does not help.If I remember correctly Bothroyd mentioned this in an interview with the Star.
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How many players linked with Wolves actually get signed? Not many, if there is another signing, it will be straight out of the hat with no previous link to Wolves.
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WHAT IS WITH ALL THE STRYKERS?
I still think we are a centre midfield hard man short. Infact, i know we are. I wouldn’t exactly be scared of karl henry running towards me in a 50/50 would you!? Or infact any of our midfielders. Can’t Mick see this?
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stuff all the speculation ….it’s doin my bean in…….
I’m gonna kick back chill & what happens happens……
:-)
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NIGEWOLF..AS MUCH AS I RESPECT OUR OPINIONS, YOU CAN SEE WHY I DON’T GET EXCITED VERY MUCH LATELY. LOOKS LIKE YOUR MOLINEUX INSIDER HAS BEEN GIVING YOU FALSE IMFORMATION AGAIN. DID HE NOT GUARENTEE YOU BERRA WOULD BE A WOLVES PLAYER BY THE END OF TODAY!!!
FORGET THE HAPPY CLAPPING MATE AND JOIN THE REALISTS..GET EXCITED WHEN THERE’S SOMETHING TO GET EXCITED ABOUT. THEN YOU’LL BE MOSTLY NEGATIVE LIKE ME LMAO.
HEY ABDON..GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK MATE..STILL NOTHING TO SHOUT ABOUT THO’ I’M AFRAID.
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R
And the point of your negative post was ?
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21 – Robert Perry is my Porn Star name….you’re my hero!
15 – I understand that, but usually being linked with players gives a good indication as to where you’re looking to get players in, and a lot of the time they turn out to be true.
I agree, there will be things going on behind all clubs doors that the press won’t know about, but it was an open question to all of you lot in orange if there was anyone else I’d missed that you lot had been linked with, as it seemed awfully quiet in regards to centre backs…..apart from Berra.
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negative and moaning again some of these fans do my head in shouldnt we be selling before we buy what does that matter to fans??? as long as we buy quality i dont mind for god sake stop bloody moaning!!!! players will leave but if we wait for them 2 leave before we buy then our targets will be snapped up then you will be moaning again!!!! which is it to be????
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1 Wolves wolves i can’t believe you can be brainwashed by propaganda “young and hungry” makes me laugh how naive some of you are. We need quality thats all nothing else all the signings are risks. The only quality signing made was SEB. SOUTH BANK i’m starting to think your right. WE ARE DESPERATE FOR QUALITY CENTRAL MIDFIELDERS.
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any1 else heard we have had a 1m bid rejected for jason shackell from norwich?? sky sports new just said
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I would very much like someone like Berra here but I still think that Elokobi, Little and Lee Collins could play there and we should use Daniel Jones more. It is no good keep loaning out players. If they are good enough play them irrespective of age. Look at Keith Lowe, who has been loaned everywhere.
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29# UNFORTUNATELY I AM MATE..25 OUT OF THE LAST 26 YEARS SPENT IN THIS DIVISION. WE’VE HAD SEVERAL MANAGES COUNTLESS NEW SIGNINGS AND A NEW OWNER..AND STILL LOOK AS FAR AWAY FROM A PROMOTION WINNING SIDE AS EVER.. YEAH WE GOT SYLVAN NOW .. WE HAD BULLY FOR HIS WHOLE CAREER AND STILL COULDN’T GET UP.
SO, NO I’M NOT ANYMORE IMPRESSED NOW AS I WAS AT THE END OF LAST SEASON. PERFORMANCES, RESULTS AND ULTIMATELY PROMOTION ARE WHAT IMPRESS. SO ROLL ON AUG 9TH, PLENTY OF PRIDE AND PASSION..THEN HOPEFULLY I CAN BECOME A VERY HAPPY CLAPPER TOO!!!
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We definitely need another central defender or, if we switch Elokobi or Little there, a wide defender. I agree with Bill (12). We shouldn’t even be thinking of McLean at that price until we’ve got a viable defence. With the present squad, a couple of injuries and we’re up the creek defensively. I’m not sold on Berra as such, but someone, please, Jez!
By the way, many people are saying the transfer market has been quiet, but just look at these stats (I can supply the names too):
Summary of total signings by Championship clubs from 1 May to noon on 4 July:
Derby 8, Barnsley 5, Burnley 4, Crystal Palace 4, Swansea 4, Blackpool 3, QPR 3, Southampton 3, Wolves 3, Cardiff 2, Charlton 2, Coventry 2, Ipswich 2, Norwich 2, Notts Forest 2, Plymouth 2, Sheff Utd 2, Birmingham 1, Bristol City 1, Doncaster 1, Preston 1 and Sheff Wed 1.
Players: 58
Clubs active: 22 (92%)
Clubs active more than once: 17 (71%)
Clubs active 3 times or more: 9 (38%)
Clubs active 4 times or more: 5 (21%)
Clubs active 5 times or more: 2 (8%)
Clubs active 7 times or more: 1 (4%)
Clubs not active yet: 2 (Reading, Watford)
I’m not criticizing Wolves here–I think David Jones is one of the best signings of the summer by any club. But just don’t think other clubs have been quiet!
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I’m not sure what’s more pathetic; fans with no understanding of the finances at Molineux or how deals are structured telling Moxey how much he should pay for prospective signings or the fact that we seem to be setting a record for the close season of most rejected bids!
I’ve said before that we should be like Jim Magilton at Ipswich or Roeder at Ipswich…identify your genuinely important potential signings, negotiate under the radar and only go public when the job is done. I know that requires the selling club to keep their mouth shut but Magilton and Roeder have proved it can be done.
We bid for anyone and everyone and go public on them all…and then buy from whoever says, “Yes.”
Dear E & S, do me a favour and just tell us when we’ve made a bid and it’s been accepted….like Stearman….and may that be the model for how the club do business throughout the summer!
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32. And your purpose in life is? Look mate, I’m goping to give you some advice, I think you’ve lost your passion for the game, it happens, but while you need to do all that ‘going away to find yourself’ can you please refrain from inflicting your anguish on others. You don’t HAVE to buy your season ticket, you don’t HAVE to go to the games. If you don’t like what you see then don’t watch it. Its not a difficult thing to work out, then again
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32) 25 out of the last 26 years spent in the Chumpionship ???
How long have you been a wolves fan ?
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Yawn.
On another note, who do you think our leader on the pitch is this season?
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Why is it that Wolves always seem to be involved in protracted transfers? Why can’t we make a number of bids and ‘kick into touch’ those that are obviously non-starters and move on?
Too much time is spent chasing our top targets which often are too difficult to sign while the next in line targets may be more freely available but end up signing for clubs elsewhere!
Berra may be a good player but how long have we been chasing him for now? We should move onto another target, the same thing with McLean because the price on his head is extortionate and no-one will not pay £3M up front for a League 2 player and quite right too.
We may have money to spend but spending it unwisely has been a trait of ours for many seasons and one we must rid ourselves of.
All clubs barring the ‘chosen few’ need money from transfers, what we have to do is identify those players, make a bid and pay what we believe is the right price, if that price is not right, move on and not lose a target because we stubbornly believe we can get him!
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35 & 36 : Just imagine that the Wolves E&S board is a village – and Southbank Barmy Army is its idiot.
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25# PleaseGoSOUTHAndLeaveUsBARMYARMY.
I read these articles everyday, your angry and depressing comments are the same every single day. You say the same thing every week, keep Freddy Wastewood, I’ve been a season ticket holder for 50 years, get Mick out blah blah blah blah.. no one wants to here it, try looking at things positive for once or just keep the CAPS LOCK to yourself.
I for one think this season could be good one for once, we have a good group of players with years more experience, looks like the signings are coming and Freddy is leaving.
If your that keen on the club apply for a job send your Football Manager 2008 CV and be done with it as I would love to here your press conference…
SOUTH BANK BARMY ARMY Stop with the CAPS LOCK use the spell checker..
Come on Wolves….
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I was speechless about yesterdays news so took the dog for a walk to the pub to seek solace in a cider or three.
We were both so upset I left most of mine and the dog didn’t touch a drop of his.
Oh, well! at least the neighbours were spared the spectacle of a legless old grump trying to carry a legless dog up the garden path.
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Whilst we shouldn’t be held to ransom, if Berra is identified as the man then why are we yet again risking losing a player for the sake of a few hundred thousand? If Stearman or Craddock get injured we are into Neil Collins territory.
We need a physical presence in midfield, a central defender and a striker. I think Iwelumo would be a much better signing than McLean as he is proven at this level.
I’m dreading the Moxey/McCarthy statement on E&S that states “We are happy now with our squad strengthening.” Shudder.
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39. Yep, after reading his posts you can’t help but feel that somewhere in the world there is a village is missing its idiot. Sad, thing is, he really is the minority, I sit in the SB week in week out and its only small sections of head the balls you come out with these ridiculous comments, mainly people who believe that a passport is required to leave the west midlands
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CHANGE THE RECORD..IF I’M ANNOYING YOU..I’M SO PLEASED TO HEAR THAT..PROVES MY TIME ON HERE ISNT WASTED.
OH! I ALWAYS TYPE WITH THE CAPS ON.. NOT 50 YEARS YET BUDDY BUT WILL BE MUCH MORE BY THE TIME I GIVE IT UP.
NOW CHANGE YOUR RECORD..I HEAR THOSE THINGS ON A DAILY BASIS MY FRIEND..AND GUESS WOT..I ABSOLUTELY DON’T GIVE A FLUFF.. SO GET OVER IT AND POST TO SOMEONE WHO’S INTERESTED..IF YOU CAN FIND ANYONE.
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NEWBRIDGE..YOU BORROW YOUR BROTHERS SEASON TICKET WHEN HE CAN’T MAKE IT..SO AS A PART TIMER DON’T MAKE JUDGEMENTS AGAINST THE FULL TIME GENUINE FANS PLEASE.
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35, 36, 39, 43.
Well said, I too sit in The South Bank and the idiots like him really are a minority.
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14. Yes it’s me – I work on the pier at Paignton. I do the fortune telling there. Here’s a prediction – MM will sign two more strikers no more defenders and Wolves will still be the lowest scorers in the division but won’t concede many. 0-0s a plenty. Roll up, roll up all the fun of the fair!! 50p a go!!
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29) I think you should know my phrase young and hungry was more of a sarcastic tone. The young and hungry is a moxiesm for cheap and cheerful.
At least with Mick at the helm he’ll find the right formation and team (there might be some sarcasm there too !)
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Molly Knew Mick (34) wrote:
I’ve said before that we should be like Jim Magilton at Ipswich or Roeder at Norwich . . . .
Good grief! Shouldn’t we be like Blackburn, Portsmouth, Fulham or Wigan! All clubs below us when Moxey became chief executive!
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Paigntonwolf – I’m coming down your way in a couple of weeks – do you want to say Hi to a Happy Baggie ???
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40 – Change the record – Nice One! Couldnt agree more. Sadly 46, realistwolves, the south bank minority are very vocal and theres a fair few near me in the north bank too.
To get back on thread though, we need Berra, even speaking as a “happy clapper”, Im flumoxed by the new contract awarded to Collins. Hes far too inconsistent for this league. Stearman looks a great signing, lets trust in Mox & Mick to do the deal with Hearts & Berra.
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I have to say we really do need to get Berra and Shackell because that would make about 6 good defenders. If i was mcarthy i would get rid of the rest and use people like mark little, daniel jones and others for the defence.If mcarthy does the above we are sorted with the defence. Midfield I think we need anither 2 wingers(as backup just in case jarvis or kites are injured) and also another midfielder but someone who is attacking but has some flair and creativity like Koren from the baggies.Striker wise we need another player who knows where the net is because at the moment we have only got SEB(unless eastwood stays). Striker wise we could get matt derbushire on loan. Hes proven himself at premiership level which is better than getting maclean which will probably cost 3 million and is a massive risk.
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Anyone know what situation is with Micky Gary?
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David Jones, David Edwards,Mark Davies, Karl Henry. How many more centre mids do you want Fras?
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48 Sarcasim accepted, i’m just sick of hearing that term”young and hungry”. We must have signed 15 players plus in 3 years i would have prefered 4 quality signings and used our youth system.
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54 Preferably one that can score 10 goals a season and can create chances.
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I sit in the South Bank, and am getting sick of all the moaners. I went to Chorley and remember how bad things used to be! All those calling for Mick’s head obviously think that the last 25 years have all been a blur. If we keep changing Manager we will keep our status year after year, and only sticking with someone will pay the dividend in the end. My patience has been tested in recent years, under Mick as well – we all know the Neil Collins is a cart horse and we all hope and prey one day we will find our next Lescott, however, I am optimistic this year as we are trying to sign good players with a future, and we have held on to our best players.
I agree with getting rid of Freddie, Elliot and Bothroyd. I agree with getting rid of Potter and Ward, but we have to bring in players at the back, and I would like to see us shore up the back. We also have the fortune of arguably having the 2 best goalkeepers in the league, who’s number 1?
Bring it on and lets welcome Incy to Molineux, without giving the idiots who want to replace MM a voice. Good luck Mick prove the twits wrong.
Up the Wolves
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How come we aint using the loan system?
We could get a couple of decent players on loan for the season.No need just to throw money at it.
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someone near the top of the post said they’d seem berra in a few matches for Hearts and he was class, then (or someone else) added, throw 2.5 million ‘that should get him’, then another said we shouldn’t be missing out for the sake of a paltry £400,000 (err, in my world that little difference alone amounts to about 1,100 Wolves season tickets, before wages and agents fees and the rest). I grew up watching a ‘class player’ called Peter Zelem playing for Chester. We didn’t miss out on HIM, but he famously didn’t look so class at Wolves’ level. Trust the professionals (we have to) not to waste OUR ticket money.
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I had a season ticket in the Billy Quiet stand last season, I haven’t bought one this season for obvious reasons. I was brought up not to waste money!
Another season of Mad Micks rubbish football is just a waste of money. The man is tactically inept, and most managers who came to the Molly last season outplayed him tactically. So Mick blames the fans for not singing loud enough!
Then he insults the fans in the E&S, and then does not have the bottle to face the fans on a lap around the ground after the last home game. The idiot didn’t realise that he would have mostly been applauded!
His disrespect for the Wolves fans will never be forgiven by the ones who matter, the paying fans and not the armchair fans who happy-clap Mad Mick on this board, and accuse the real fans of being disloyal.
The stupidity of the happy-clappers trying to brag-up the nothingness of what is happening at the moment is pathetic. If there was an ounce of intelligence amongst them, they would realize that we are destined for another season of dire football and no promotion at the end of it!
All that has changed is the names of the victim players. Mad Mick will screw-up again, as he has done all his managerial career.
Just go onto Wikipedia and see the summary of his managerial career. He has the gift of the gab, but just makes it up as he goes along. It always ends in tears, as it will here!
WE COULD HAVE HAD THE GUV’NOR AS OUR MANAGER!
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Our own top-striker last season was Rosa, goals scored for other clubs don’t count in my reckoning because they were under a different manager and playing system.
So what is going to happen to Rosa. There is no reserve team next season, and I don’t that he made the bench last season.
This is a class player with international experience, he did well against the England international team when he played against us.
Is he going out on loan? Anybody heard any news that I’ve missed? I must confess that I like this guy, and I think that we have not used his talents wisely.
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he is a good player, people
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David Jones has flair and creativity, Wolves (52), probably more than Koren.
Re strikers, I prefer Andy Keogh played behind the strikers, but Andy is often classified as a striker–IMHO, a very talented player.
I would like another signing, yes! But don’t exaggerate–we’ve got Sam Vokes and Stephen Ward in addition to Sylvan Ebanks-Blake.
And that’s not counting Stephen Elliott and Jay Bothroyd, whom, as yet, we have not succeeded in selling (not to mention Freddy Eastwood).
As for Stephen Ward, we’ve seen him mainly as winger and never fully fit. What would a fully fit Stephen Ward be like in the middle up front?
If we buy another striker–great! But right at the moment that would mean we have eight! Even with eight strikers, if the present defence is not bolstered, we probably face a relegation battle!
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63) spot on, the only thing we can hope is that there’s a couple irons in the fire that we dont know about, and they’re all for midifeld/defence.
25 strikers and the Wayne the Wunderkind wont be enuff with our current back 4
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