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- Says blogger Matthew Turvey
Ince headed to Ewood
Friday 20th June 2008, 12:33PM BST.
Former Wolves skipper Paul Ince will become the Premier League’s first black English manager this week when he is confirmed as the new manager of Blackburn Rovers.
The news will dash the hopes of a strong lobby of Wolves fans, who held high hopes of Molineux becoming the ex-midfielder’s first high profile port of call.
He has cut his teeth in his impressive stints with Macclesfield and MK Dons. At 40, Ince still has time to take in a wide range of challenges.
Now all eyes will be on how England’s first black captain on the pitch fares in one of the most formidable leagues in world football.
Ince is hoping to get the chance to build on a long-term strategy at Ewood.
He said: “I want to be at a club where I have a three or four-year plan. Not a year here, year there. That is now how I want to operate.”
Some Premiership chairman are unhappy at Ince’s appointment, because he does not yet possess the UEFA Pro Licence required by top-flight managers in England.
But the LMA are backing him and so are Premier League administrators.
They have made exceptions in the past, for Gareth Southgate (Middlesbrough) and Avram Grant (Chelsea).
Ince’s move into the top flight will give him the chance to work with the best quality of player he has so far encountered in his coaching career – but there will be no change in his basic demands.
He said: “Any player not prepared to work at the level or the standard that I used to work at didn’t stay with me.”
“I felt I had to make a statement as a manager. People talk about being a decent player and playing for some great clubs, but that’s all in the past now.
“The future for me was always to go into management because of the type of character I was.”
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good luck incey u will need it at blackburn
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Well done all the best
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This guy is clearly a winner.
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Nice one Jez for showing Ince the door and instead hiring Muck.
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ohhh not good enough for wolves how ironic, instead mad mick buys a million crap strikers and irish rejects :P
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said it before and will say it again… the worst thing wolves have done for a long time was letting ince go…
good luck!
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Go for it Incy. You have been a winner at every level so far in your career. I for one see no reason for that to change. All the very best of luck. Make ‘em sweat.
Up The Wolves
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A very determined young man. A born winner,natural leader,popular,sometimes controversial,says what he thinks.Not what we want at The Wolves eh Mr.Moxey.SSSHHH.
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well thats blown it….
cheers jez never really liked ince, aint like he’s won anything as a player or a manager!!
just hope mkdons poach mccarthy but doubt it personally id fry him!!
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Good luck Incey! It’l make the friendly with blackburn interesting i suppose
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No Ambition Wolves – A Ceo who could not cope with Ince and a new owner who obviously says not alot at all!
Good Luck Incey
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Instead of using this news to have a pop at MM, why don’t we all get behind a man who was the catalyst behind our only recent promotion?
I say “All The Best Incey”, great player, great Captain and, soon to be, great Manager.
As a footnote – let us not forget he was also the main player in the plot that removed Dave Jones as our Manager.
UP THE WOLVES!!!!
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Excellent news. Wanted him from the start, reckon he’ll do a great job and show us some much needed commitment. Good luck Incey!
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Good luck ince your next in line after mick :happy:
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Good manager. Proved to be a wise decision to keep Mick as his experience saved Wolves from the certain drop at the end of the first season. An average second season. So heres to a blinding third season.
Good luck Incey. Wise move I think, a club with no pressure other than to stay mid table. As long as you dont take themn down, you cant lose.
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Good luck Incey, just shows the ambition of a club like Blackburn compared to ourselves who are quite happy to tread the backwaters of the CCC with a manager whose ideas are out of ark.
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Good ol incey!
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good luck incey your a legend at wolves
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To all you Wolves fans, you can have Ince… I dont want him at Blackburn.
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Well done Incey! We’ll miss yer down here for sure with mr mm still in charge putting in a shift but getting us nowhere fast, our loss will be greatly amplified this season!
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Well said 15, I agree with you whole heartedly! Just wish the rest of you whingers would get behind this club because with you we are going nowhere!
Morgan is an incredibly succesful businessman and he has not got where he is by having substandard managers and backroom staff. He believes in what he has got and is willing to put his money behind his beliefs. This is a very shrewd bloke who doesn’t have a blind affection for Wolverhampton Wanderes like Sir Jack did. Morgan wants to make money and he will only achieve that by making the Wolves as successful as he possibly can! It may not happen overnight so patience is required but you have got to stick with these things if they are going to succeed properly and the club is to have a strong solid foundation a rigid infrastructure! You only have to look at recent signings of a business manager from Hull RFC and now a Sports Scientist. These are valauble additions to our club that will see future sustained development and progress. These days it is not just about a strong squad, the game has moved on and it is essential that we move with it. Morgan wants Mick and not Ince, please trust his judgement as I am certain it is far betters that yours or mine!
CAN NONE OF YOU SEE THIS!!!!!!!!
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Blackburn will be a good stepping stone for Incey, as he gets his coaching badges, premiership management experience and handling big players – and then over to the Mol to manage the mighty Wolves in the Prem in 2 years
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I assume all the ince fans will now be travelling up to Blackburn to enjoy his management.
As I said before, I would of liked him, but timing wasn’t good and we couldn’t take the risk at the time. He would never of come back to the mol after not getting the job, my understanding was that he left under accusations directed at Moxey and the club, which cast a serious shadow over his personality if true.
So, thanks for the couple of years service to the club, and all the best, but I am a wolves and will be following the wolves not mr ince. I think all wolves fans (and E&S) should now put the issue to bed, for the benefit of the club
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Good Luck – pity it was not with us !
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Best of luck Incey, it’s about time a black manager was given a chance at a high-profile Premier League club and Ince is a great candidate. To all those who are knocking Moxey for not appointing Ince 2 years ago, isn’t it time you woke up and took a reality check? He hadn’t managed at that point – we were in dire straits and he was not the man for the job at the time. I do believe that he could be a great Wolves manager NOW, but not two years ago – MM came in with experience and steadied a rudderless ship. Honestly, it doesn’t take much intelligence to realise this – but I guess it’s difficult to credit some of you lot with any intelligence due to the ill-conceived garbage you come out with on this site.
Anyway, enough of you plebs.. all the best Paul, and here’s to a great season for WWFC with McCarthy at the helm.
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i told you so !!!!!!!!!! GOOD LUCK GOV
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who cares, his comments on this club still leave a bitter taste.
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well put wolf72. However….
No doubt during his rise to success Mr Morgan made mistakes – and then learnt from them.
Unfortunately Mr Macarthy is apparently completely incapable of learning from his mistakes because he keeps making the same ones over and over again.
Make no mistake – if MM reverted back to the ideas and strategies that served him well during his first season at Molineux there would be hardy any doubters or cynics making comments about his ability to take us into the Premiership, but he has completely ousted the policies of playing young, hungry home grown talent and instead shipped in all his old pals from days gone by and shipped out all of those promising youngsters. Now if those players that he had brought in at the expense of others had done the job then again, fair play to them and him, but they did not. Instead they served up some of the poorest football that has been seen at Wolves for many a year. But MM decided to blindly carry on, and add to this strange policy by criticising players and (worse still) the fans in public!
So whilst I remain confident that Steve Morgan is the right man for the job, I am just as confident that Mick Macarthy is not.
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Come on whingers, Paul Ince is ambitious, and had he been offered the Wolves job two years ago and been any good, he would have moved onto bigger things by now. Good luck to him though, I hope he does well up there.
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Well, that’s it! Regrettably, Incey is out of the running for Wolves now, probably for at least three years. If McCarthy goes, who do we get now? There’s no clear successor in sight.
Morgan seems to think McCarthy is the man to take us to the promised land, so let’s go for it! Let’s get behind Mick again! Do we want Wolves to succeed or not?
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NICE TO SEE HAPPY CLAPPER NEWBRIDGE ON FORM AGAIN, BUT WOLVES AIN’T GOIN’ NOWHERE NEXT SEASON ( AGAIN ) LET’S ALL HAPPY CLAP TOGETHER NOW.
AND WHAT A CLOSE SEASON SO FAR, CAN’T SELL NOBODY, DON’T SEEM TO BE ABLE TO BUY ANYBODY, WHOOO NEXT SEASON LOKKS MOUTH WATERING ALREADY
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Idiots… we would all love to see incey at Wolves but come on Mick McCarthy brought in Kightly, Keogh, Foley, Ebanks-Blake; he decided to give Hennessey the chance. If we had gone with Ince at that time I beleive we would be in near enough the same, if not worse position than where we currently are, and for god’s sake will people stop using Moxey as a scapegoat for all our failing’s go and get an eduction some of you :| I’ts like a bunch of dumb pilgrims pointing the finger at someone and callign them a witch, it’s pathetic, if you think McCarthy Morgan and Moxey are that bad go watch Stafford Rangers or Blackburn or the albion cos we really don’t need the idiots this season.
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Ancient Wolf (29), if Ince had become Wolves manager two years ago and he had been any good, he would be in the Premiership with Wolves now!
In that case, I don’t think Blackburn would be any more attractive than Wolves. If Ince was to move on out of ambition, it would have to be to a massive club–and would they appoint on just two years experience? And even if he did go to such a club, he would leave us in the Premiership.
Given the limitations, particularly Wolves starting to build from scratch two years ago, I’m not saying he would necessarily have done any better in the Championship than McCarthy. We will never know! But your message does not make sense to me!
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you are right Clemo – we don’t need the idiots next season – unfortunately he is the manager so we are just gonna have to put up with him!
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before we all get too downhearted ! what will the reaction be if he fails at Blackburn ? I think its a step too far and he wont find it that easy. I wish him well, but wont be surprised if hes the first prem manager shown the door this season if they struggle.
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you cant blame jez for appointing mccarthy instead of ince people. at the time it was the right move and has proven so in were we are now after we thought we might be in relegation scrap
but…..
maybe we can blame jez for not sacking mccarthy who probably deserved to go after his gritty stand in playing favourites and costing us a playoff spot
then we could of got ince in
we missed the boat and this boat is never going to come past us again
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31 – Is this the first year you’ve been a football fan? If you take a look through the leagues you’ll find that No-one is making that many signings. Just have some patience.
As for the happy clapping statement – You really are a fine example of the caps-lock doom mongers who are in drastic need of a release due to the frustrations of their meaningless existence.
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Clemo Wolf (32) I appreciate your positive approach to Wolves, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating. McCarthy has clearly said we need about six players.
If Moxey gets those six players, well and good. If he doesn’t, he’s failed. To criticize him, wouldn’t be witch-hunting, just clear-headed judgment.
What is it in Moxey’s record over the last eight years that makes you such a mindless worshipper? Chief executives should be judged cooly on their achievements.
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One of the best players ever to grace the Molineux ,loved the Wolves and the fans would have been the perfect Manager,Moxley and crew have missed a golden oppourtunity to take Wolves to the next level,I dont know of a single fan that wouldnt have supported Incey in anything he did .Good luck Incey you will be missed.
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The bile from some against MM is unbelievable! Out of this world first season and a second season below expectation (but only just) doesn’t deserve these commnets. I know some obvious issues were not dealt with last season (especially getting the defence sorted), but let’s at least support our team and manager the way we should! I guess a load of it is from Sandwell WUMs, mind!
Anyway, good luck Incey. Your previous comments were a little off target I feel, but no grudges held!
I would have liked to see you at the Mol, but to expect the managers job at the Mol with no experience was asking us to take a big gamble at that time. I believe MM was a safer bet at that time and he did us proud (MM did a job beyond belief first year).
I agree that Incey would have been a good candidate now, but we will never know how he would have done I guess.
So I hope MM puts our team in shape for a promotion push. Get rid of the deadwood (includes FE) and get the defence sorted, in my mind MMs biggest black spot of last season.
Up the Wolves and all concerned, management and players!
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Just a warning Wolf72 is Moxley incognito Trust me on this one
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clap clap well done incey
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Good luck to him but in this is going to be a very difficult job for him. People are forgetting what Mark Hughes did there and the expectations will be very high. Can Ince really step up to the Premier so quickly?. I hope he does but I think not.
From a career progression standpoint he should have took the Leicster job or maybe a Championship side.
I give him one season at Ewood, but again, best of luck to him.
Charlie
ATLANTA WOLVES
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38 – Are you suggesting that Moxey should just sign EVERYONE on McCarthys list regardless of transfer fee or wages? That doesn’t strike me a clear headed judgement.
If your judging Moxey on his performance as chief executive then he has done a good job. You only have to look through the leagues to see clubs who have lost parachute payments or changed owners to find themselves in administartion or relegated. We are in a sound financial position. Cheif Exec is a position that is a bit of a thankless task, so instead of simply mud throwing why not back up your comments with hard facts.
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38- What have Moxeys significant failings been then?
Pie & Pint Fiasco?
Because he’s kept us afloat whilst still making signing’s and not paying ridiculous wages for over the hill players like Derby did last season and Birmingham are doing currently
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What a guy!! He will do good in time. Just wish we had him here at wolves
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38 & 44
can see both your points
but i dont want us paying over the odds. but for sake of 250k then pay it hardly like we willing pay 1.5 and they want 2.25+
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44 Football fans of every club want success on the field, not in the boardroom.
Bet you sing your heart out to Hi Ho Silver Lining, How stupid that song makes you.
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Wish I had his money 41!! And the adoration of all the fans!!!
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Well said 37!!! If we are going to find success then we need to rid this club of the doom and gloom merchants!
For my money ‘southbank barmy army’ is one of those fickle south bank knuckle heads who cost this club dearly last season by not getting behind a young team struggling with confidence and crying out for support!!! This certainly ain’t the south bank i’ve known and loved all my life!
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50 putting a JCB behind this team wouldn’t get them up into the prem, you’re the knuckle head,
BHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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all the best to incey who was quaility for us. disapionting we let you go clearly going on to better things!
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For all the Moxey knockers, didn’t Ince say that Moxey wanted him as manager but Sir Jack was the one who was stuck in the old ages, and didn’t want him! Wish people would get their facts right before coming out with so much rubbish!
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Oh yes well done 51, my dads bigger than your dad!!!! Ner na na ner na!!!!!
Now go and tell all of your friends to come down the Molineux and boo all the players before they’ve even kicked a ball!!!
Supporters are supposed to support just in case you missed the subtle clue in the title!
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We have a right to criticise especially with the dross served up last season and way this club is being managed….we criticise because we care and losing Ince is missed opportunity.Do we just pay and sing super Mick and say great job Jez, thanks for all the good work and your brilliant stewardship, we’ve done so well since you’ve been with us??
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wolves to finish 7th again this season coming . I spotted MM in William Hill placing his bet
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everyone comments and argueing with one-another are making me smile better than tv raaaaaaaaaah!
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45 – Clemo – it’s not that Moxey has failed it’s that for the salary he is on you would want him to have the skills to take the club forward but all he is capable of doing is balancing the books.
Like him I am a qualified accountant and it’s pretty basic stuff to put things in place so that when the income goes down then the expenditure goes down too. This is what he has done by changing the transfer policy to buying young hungry players from the lower divisions (ie cheaper players) rather than wasting money on the Carl Cort types. Although in some respects that makes sense it hasn’t helped Wolves progress from being a nearly team when it comes to league position.
For someone with his salary we should expect to have someone who can control a clubs finances while developing the club into a bigger, better and more successful organisation.
If you want the club to stand still then Moxey is fine. If you want them to get back to being a Premier League team then we need someone with a bit more imagination and ambition. I hope Steve Morgan will realise that soon.
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Good luck Guvna, looks like we missed out again. If he succeeds there which I’m sure he will cos he’ll attract class players then we’ll just by how much our board went wrong. I feel also that we may never get him now, so as fans we will just have to accept that fact. Another missed opportunity!!!
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would anyone say david nugent woild be a good shout???
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not much use us even having an opinion because the overwhelming majority of wolves fans wanted, and to a certain extent still do want ince as our manager.
i hope to see wolves win the fa cup before i die as well sir jack and im only 10!
good luck paul, wake up please mr morgan!
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Funny that, it was only lunchtime today that it was reported Blackburn hadnt even made an approach!
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sTEVE said-no thanks mate you can have him,unlike all these ince kiss me ass “fans” I don’t want him either, we are trying to kick racism out of football not fester it and use it has an excuse for not getting a job!
One thing is for certain-the mol will be rather empty next season with all these MM haters missing, like they were when we were in the fourth division!!
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missed out on him, well done wolves
typical story at wolves :(
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Made arguably the biggest boo boo of all time not appointing him as manager! He was a winner as a player,100% effort and has won pretty much everything as a player. Missed a trick there im afraid, MM is a poor second.
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Comment 58 Bang On
Adulation for someone who aint bad at basic book keeping- beggers belief! – We desperately need a manager with a personality, fire in his guts and decent tactics and a CEO who can see further than “balancing the books”
Moxey and MM – A marriage made at the Mol! Championship also rans no matter how many players MM buys! & No we NEVER boo any players – before some ejat suggests it!
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good luck paul. A leader on the pitch, and a good football man. Hope you have a lot of success.
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At the end of last season Steve morgan made it clear lets make sure we dont need the play offs next season! after coming on the pitch against plymouth, this to me is a sure fact Mick mcarthy will be allowed to sign whoever he wants and to prove he is a top manager, i also think Jez moxey is very much in the same position has Mick, so lets wait and see what they both do? Steve morgan has obviously made it clear, i cant understand all the anti this and that, If you really care for the club wolves should have your full 100% support. i do really believe Times are changing for the better at wolves! their’s not many a club who have such a solid base.
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Good luck Incey!!!
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68. If this is indeed the case and Morgan sticks by what he wants to achieve then surely both MM and JM have till December to prove their worth. If not top 3 then both must go on this basis, realistically tho I cannot see us getting beyond the play-offs at best with this combination. Yes they’ve built us a solid base, however I think they have taken the club as far as they can and a change at both levels will probably be imminent. We shall see, we shall also see what decent managers are available now the Guvna has had his stall set out for him elsewhere
Newbridge: As always you write tosh, do you really think Wolves fans will go and watch Blackburn play instead. Get your head outta your behind, we just appreciate and understand what a good manager he would have made for Wolves and that we missed out….AGAIN
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70, DudzieWolf only Steve morgan can answer that, if we get off to a promising start it’s going to be all roses for everyone!! if it’s medocre or less i know a 3 year stint is long enough in management for anyone. CARDS ON THE TABLE.
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Wherever he goes, McCarthy fails.
His CV is undeniable.
Why does anybody think it will be any different this time?
The man has a very ability. It is stretched in the Championship, and the Premiership is way beyond his ability.
Please get things into perspective, based upon past performance.
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well said # 25. common sense.
well done incy….bad timing for wolves. MM has steadied the ship. Give him one more year. I saw Eastwood play twice on visits from SF…he was crap. what were you guys on about???
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Good luck Paul!In overlooking him for the vacant manager’s job Wolves lacked the courage and took the easy way out as usual.That’s why we’re where we are now.
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Once again the short sighted board have been shown up. Paul Ince will be a success wherever he manages, the guy is a winner. We let him go when he wanted the job, he doesn’t need us now, he has superceded anything this club had to offer. Good luck Paul! I enjoyed you as a player down here and I expect I will have to witness you returning as a manager and putting us to the sword.
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Incey confirmed as Rovers boss on 3 year deal – Good Luck Incey – See you at the Mol
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Good luck Incey, The best captain and leader to wear the old gold and black since Mike Bailey! Such a shame That Moxey got his way,and employed a one toned stupporn yorkshire man, and not take on a born winner and True Wolves great and legend in football. The muppett and fat man Deserve each other!
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Caravan of Love and Clemo Wolf (44 & 45) ask for facts on Moxey’s failings.
Apart from Cardiff, under Moxey we have had just eight years of drab mediocrity. During that time we have completely blown the off-season that followed promotion, lost the Premiership income, lost the parachute payments, failed to appoint Paul Ince as manager and finished 7th in three of the last four years. There has been no significant achievement and precious few achievements of any sort. Hope is at its lowest ebb in a quarter of a century.
By contrast, under the Moxeyless Hayward, we tacked about between genuine disasters, like having the bars, etc., taken over by petty criminals and the club ripped off by one or two of Hayward’s own appointments, the loss of Dean Richards for £0 and the sale of Robbie Keane, and periods of genuine excitement and hope, with players like Bully, David Kelly and Keane; we also had one great achievement: the building of the stadium. That beautiful sunny day at Norwich when Keane made his debut and scored a couple of goals was one of the happiest days of my footballing life, and left most of us supporters filled with hope.
The eight drab, hope-sapping years since 2000 are only appreciated by Moxeymorons!
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