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Baggies won’t be held to ransom
Thursday 29th May 2008, 12:20PM BST.
Albion boss Tony Mowbray has warned he will not break the bank to keep Zoltan Gera and Kevin Phillips at The Hawthorns.
Mowbray revealed he is unwilling to break the Hawthorns pay structure – even if it means losing his out-of-contract stars for their return to the Premier League.
The Baggies are awaiting answers from Gera, Phillips and defender Martin Albrechtsen on new contracts to stay at The Hawthorns, but Mowbray says the club will not be dragged into an auction for their services.
He said: “We are not in the business of players going out and checking the rest of the world, then coming back with their best offer asking us to try to beat it. We don’t operate like that.
“It should never be about money for me. They know where we are as a club and they will be offered the best contracts this club can offer. If they want to ply their trade elsewhere for more money, then good luck to them.
“The squad is what everybody has got to respect. I respect the squad and we will not be ‘busting the bank’ for any single player. Their agents know that and if they want to hawk them around and get a better price and salary package, we won’t be budging.
“We won’t be breaking structures and it is that simple, because I want to be fair to the squad and the other players. If they get better packages that are out of our ball park, then good luck to them.”
Mowbray is now keen for speedy decisions from the trio as he looks to build his squad for the return to the top flight. Both Gera and Albrechtsen’s agents have hinted their clients are close to making up their minds.
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An insight to TM’s philosophy (which we all understood) is that the squad and team spirit is paramount.The article provides an insight and appreciation of his managerial qualities and an illustration of his loyalty to the squad.
Well said
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i thought money was not the problem. we were led to believe that gera wanted to know if we were going to show some ambitions and with regards to phillips i thought the glitch was in the length of contract on offer???
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I really like Gera and Superkev but I am right behind the gaffer on this one!
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statement of intent, a clear message to players agents me think!!
Platini keeps banging on about improving the game of football, fewer internationals, less games, respect given to officials, but when are the powers that be going to look at one of the biggest problems in the world of football today, agents??????
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Good for you TM these players are not bigger than the club.Stick to your guns and if they don’t want to play ball let them all go !! And good luck to them.
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I agree, although i would like to see Phillips stay, i’m not too bothered if he leaves, it will just open the door for somebody else.
Gera on the other hand will be key to us staying up and virtually irreplaceable.
Anyone else think tat Bocanegra whos just left Fulham would be a good signing. He’s versatile and experienced at the back, and he dealt with the England attack reasonably well???
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That’s why they did’nt want a tour of Sandwell to celebrate promotion….They’re all off looking for better offers.We were told they’d gone on holiday when their agents are touting them round other clubs.The ship is sinking.
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I really hope that they see some sense and get signed up as the club doesnt need this going on and on.
We are needing to get some new blood in and i think that super kev still has something to offer even if it is only his vast experience rubbing off on the younger strikers.
Miller and Moore – Next ENGLAND STRIKE PARTNERSHIP…..?
well its nice to dream !!!
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Shut up number 7. Enjoy playing Doncaster away.
If SKP & Gera did go it would not be the end of the world. As we know Mowbray can uncover gems like Tex & Koren etc. If one had to stay i would pick Zolly. I still think SKP will sign up but i think Gera will leave.
Tony Mowbrays barmy army we hate Wolves scum!
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6. To be fair mate stevie wonder would have half a chance of dealing with the england attack reasonably well, Agree with tomo no player is bigger than the club, although would love to see super kev and zolly stay, boing boing
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If only more managers were like him. It would also help if the brainless muppets at FIFA could get their priorities right. I love football but it is no longer a sport but a market place where individuals backed by money and huge egos complete against each other. To nick Churchill’s famous saying, football is becoming ‘the unacceptable face of capitalism’.
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It’s a clear message to the players. Maybe they will learn from the previous season’s ‘stars’. Here’s hoping they will stay.
Optimistic Wolf – your comments are always pathetic pal. No doubt you were making the same sinking ship comments last summer.
What’s this ‘we’? Closet Baggy admirer by any chance? . You seem to be more interested in our successful club rather than your pitiful one
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7. – Could you please go back to a Wolves article, I’m pretty sure you’ve not got anything constructive or polite to say, so stop being a child and coming onto an Albion article and trying to wind people up. You’re not funny and it’s not needed.
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Re 7 – If you think so, see you on the sea bed then !!!! hah ha
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The ship is sinking? Bit over-optimistic wolf, especially from someone who supports a team that’s stuck up a creek without a paddle – not quite true – you went backwards last season!
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7.. If our club is sinking where are wolves the abyys????
I have more respect for TM day after day. He says it as it is. In this modern football era of absolutely stupid pay structures it is very refreshing that we are not bowing down to agent pressure.
West brom have never paid really big wages (in football terms) and obviously we lose out on players because of it, but I would sooner lose out on a player that is only interested in big money and get a player that wants to play for the club
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Afternoon all,
I am totally behind the gaffa on this one and im sure that the offers they have all received are inline with the top players at the club with a very good bonus structure.
Does anyone think that Jason Roberts coming back would be a good move, it looks like Blackburn are ready to sell and although he under achieved when he was with us before i do believe that he would be a major assett now and that the football we play would definately suit him.
Your thoughts?
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i also agree if they are holding out for more money than the wage structure allows then get rid once a club starts breaking its own wage structure its the start of big trouble.
good on yer TM.
!!!!!!UP THE Wolves!!!!!
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i trust tm 100percent,lets break it down,skp is only going to play 50 percent of our prem matches,and although it pains me to say it,he didnt exactly set the prem on fire with the vile,and he was 3 yrs younger,and as for zolly,we obviously want to keep him,but unsettling the rest of the squad with his crazy pay demands,we,ve had a decent return on him,so lets just move on .IN TOMO WE TRUST.
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Great bar baggie never judge a player in a joke friendly match.70 thousand mugs were at wembley last night.As for gera being irreplaceable dont make me laugh robbo created more goals than mr gera last season.geras good but not irreplaceable
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No 7 our ship in cruising to a top finnish inthe premier leugue while the bilston barge is again stuck where its belongs.BOING BOING.
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You got me of course I love Albion really its just when I post on my own wolves site even they think i’m an idiot and it hurts when your own turn on you.
up the baggies
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What is it about the Dingles coming on here and keep saying that ‘the ship is sinking’?
Don’t you have your own poxy little, poorly run, ‘football’ club to take an interest in?
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Phillips will get goals in the prem as he is a clever player, what is 20k a week if his goals secure prem football and for every place you finish higher in the table you get 500k or 750k. Not sure on that one.
I do agree with Tony Mowbray aswel though and he must have something else lined up. you need to compare both players to wots around you in your mini league.
Wigan- heskey, bent, sibieski
bolton- davis
stoke- fuller, creswell, sidebe
hull – windass, the guy from man utd
fullham – healey,
west brom – phiilips, bednar, miller, moore
obviously im missing players as this is off the top of my head but you do look stronger than the other sides and keeping phillips i think would be a massive boost, look at mcbride when he was fit, he was a key to fulham and he has only left to return home and he is pusghing 36.
a quality line coming up!
class is permanenet form is temporay!
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I reckon the current system of agents working on commision should be outlawed and salaried agents – perhaps employed by the PFA – put in instead. Then they might actually do what was in the player’s best interest rather than touting them to Chelsea reserves for a payday.
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7. HOPELESSMISTIC WULF. The good ship Albion is sailing through Premiership waters & will be steering well clear of those terrible rocks of relegation thanks to the quite brilliant Admiral Mowbray.
It’s not quite the same on a knackered old barge on the Bilston cut is it?. In that old pirate Mad dog Mick we trust!!
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Super Kev, come to Wolves, we’ll look after you!
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TM is not a man without a plan so I am not particularly worried about transfers at the moment. The consensus of opinion is that moves will happen around the time of the Euro’s and we will have some new and strange names to contend with.I really cannot see to many current Premiership players figuring in his plan.
So roll on the fixture list publication , and the start of the season with I might add a sense of optimisim. Forget all the Dark Side Jonah’s who populate these pages with comments that fly in the face of the known facts. We are in the Prem with the makings of a sound team and above all one of the best managers around.
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Jase – I don’t judge players on joke friendly matches. All i am saying is that Bocanegra would be a versatile asset, able to cover all defensive positions. He has played well for the USA and Fulham for a number of seasons now.
As for the Gera comment – Robinson did have more assists and i’m not doubting his quality; however, Gera’s teamwork, ability on the ball, heading and overall game is priceless and i don’t think that we could attract a replacement with the same attributes. Just my opinion.
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Well said TM we dont want money grabbers upsetting our promotion to the Premiership its both players last decent chance of a good pay off contract,if they can get a better deal so be it.
Comment by no.7 if we are a sinking ship you lot are the equivalent of a submarine.Always below us
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24.Disagree Phillips will not get more than 5 goals in the Premiership so £20k would be too much
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21
What planet you on??
Your coming straight back down. FACT!
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BUSINESS MANAGEMENT THE MOWBRAY WAY. Competent, clear minded and common sense. Can’t wait for the fixture list.
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well said T.M. but i dont really understand this reports seem to change everday west brom said they had meet geras pay demands and he wanted reasurences that we would not go down which to me is a silly comment anyway geras been at west brom for years does he not realise we want as much success as possible you dont try to go down if T.M. did not think we could be succesful he would leave
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Couldent agree more with TM
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I’m not worried? TM will have a team that is competitive and will play good football. We will survive and we will move forward. We have a Manager who knows what he is doing and whilst I have criticised him in the past old JP also has to take credit for the business he did last summer and having the forsight to appoint TM.
We are Premier League and we will stay there. The Jokers from the Custard Factory are so far behind as to not even register on our radar.
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Yes 32, you know all about coming straight back down. Guarantee you`ll be nothing more than a mid-table side next season.
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Good strong manager with loads of common sense. Team spirit will be paramount next season.Many Wolves fans are quite happy for you to be successful and it can only drive ourselves to obtain promotion. You do need some class signings and back up but do have a good sound base to work from. Goalscorers will be the key to your survival so spend wisely. If things don’t go well it will be through no fault of Mowbray and Venus, a combo of which I am envious.
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TM has drawn a line in the sand – and 98% of the players are on the right side of it.
We all konw that there is little loyalty in football and much as SKP & Gera are respected we know they will probably leave for a better offer…. and thats fine.
We will be playing the same game with other clubs players – we will be in talks with players WE want – thats football.
Very few teams can hold onto players these days – even Man Utd are worried about Real Madrid taking ronaldo – Villa are trying to keep Barry etc.. etc…
I just believe we have the manager to build, develop and shape the squad with the players HE decides he wants.
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I agree with Mogga, players come and players go
but! The club will always be there.
No player is irreplaceable.
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but weeks ago gera said if we get promoted he will Stay and phillips is awesome we need to keep Him, and no open bus top tour for trophy for other fans to see who didn’t go do down to Qpr well peace out
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TMI IS TOP MANAGER TRY BUY SOMEONE LIKE FULLER HE IS GOOD AT SCORING OR GET CALEB FOLAN
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Well said Mr Mowbury, if every Manager thought like that football would be much better.
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I am in full agreement with TM on this matter. He should give these three players one week to sign or else they can clear off. Their indecisions are giving TM less and less time to find replacements if they do decide to go and all the best players will have signed for other clubs while these three are holding out till the last minute for better offers.
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DebenhamWolf Well said
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Players come, players go. TM is the best signing in years and long may he reign at the Hawthorns.
The respect he commands and professionalism is highly evident. WakeyBaggie – praise for JP. What next?
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I knew Gera and Phillips were not committed a bit like robinson last season until he failed a medical and was a joke in the football world so stayed at albion! how the tide will change in 12 months albion down with a squad that want out wolves up extending the ground to 40k, talking of that hows the work at the poor5thorns 700 seats taken away isnt it? poor schools will only get 2300 free tickets now!
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In the news,it seems that premier players are getting a higher percentage pay rise than the clubs are getting in their profits-pure greed.Even with our situation,KP must have made more money so far in his career than most of us will ever see,and Gera would be a wealthy man in his own country.Phillips was in villa reserves,Gera unknown here until we took them on.Loyalty and thanks anybody?
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44-if all the dingle pipe-dreams came true,you would rule the world,in reality you’re just a sad,unsuccessful lower division club with no prospects-even the bookies don’t rate you for next season.At least we don’t have the boring job of beating you again-other teams will do that.
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44. Phillips 22 goals, Gera 10 goals. Oh if they had only tried a bit harder we might have won the Championship. Still, your SEB got 23 goals and you did win it, er, didn’t you?? What?? You didn’t even make the play-offs? I find that hard to believe. Better luck next year. I hear Hull have a good, exerienced goal scorer if you can afford him. Name escapes me. Er something like Windybotham….
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go on give him the extra £10..lol
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Laughingwolf
Named so because after watching your pathetic attempts to scrape into the play offs, no-one knew whether to laugh or cry.
If posting negatives on this board about a team that have had a supreme dominance over your lot for the last few years gets you through the day, then I have no problems should you wish to continue doing so.
After all is that not what care in the community is all about?
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Gera and KP owe us nothing. They could have left last season but stayed and helped us back to the Prem. They would be an asset to any team outside the top 5 or 6 in the Prem but one of the reasons we failed last season was because of players whose heads were turned the wrong way by agents and other clubs courting them. ToMo is right in what he says. We will need 11 men on the field prepared to run through brick walls for the cause next term whatever they are paid and if they aren’t interested then wish them well and let them go.
Having said all that Gera and SKP are much loved at the Hawthorns and I reckon MA still has his best season to come.
Nice to see the usual mixture of cleaver and clumsy comments from the dingles…
Laughingwolf your comments live up to your name. They are laughable!
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Good old TM, i have to be honest i fully back the guy…he’s AMAZING! Fair doos to the chap for coming out and saying it how it is, what we as fans were thinking.
From where i’m sitting it looks to me as thou our faithful KP has rightfully set his sights on a contract that he can happily end his career with – and i dont think it’s ours.
Gera on the other hand is a player that i believe to be central to our success next season, i really hope he chooses to remain at the club as he is an amazing individual and team character.
Finally alby, wouldnt be too bothered if he packed his bags and left tbh – our defence needs alot of work and i dont think alby will be in the running next season anyways.
P.S. I’m abit worried about the Bednar deal, what is he going to offer us in the premiership? Seems to me that it’s a signing due to the fact that he was told he would get one – what do you guys think?
NUMBER 44 Leave it down to mad mick to fix your club and leave your snotty nose out of ours! Boing boing!
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44.40K stadium, now you are avin a laff! Just shows what a bunch of dreamers you lot are. Your club cost a tenner! Your prachute payments have ended, and we are playing prem football earning 62 Million (so they reckon) jealous or what?
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I admire the stand, problem is that Gera and Philips are the bit of quality that made the difference in the championship. Finding replacements is not going to be easy even with the extra 2 hours available from not going on a bus trip. Oh, and I shouldn’t bother with looking in Poland, I think we all know why.
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44.
Is that comment in code, or are you on drugs?.
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44 – clear off and go add the finishing touches to your ‘You’ve let us down again wolves’ banner, ready for next April!
I agree with most of the posts on here however, even some of the posts from the more constructive Wolves fans. To those fans all I would say is keep the faith get yourselves up, and hopefully if we stay up we’ll get the black country derby on in the prem. We know it’s only good natured banter from the majority.
On agents, I agree that they are a major problem. I guess we’ll never know if Gera genuinely wanted to stay, though I think that’s irrelevent anyway. His agent seems to want him to move so he can have his cut.
I am right behind TM, if he wants to leave that desperatly, then it would be pointless trying to keep him, we need to move on and build for next year with players who actually want to play for us.
With KP, I also agree with some of the comments on here, at his age he will not play the majority of games. He’s been a great player for us and we have benefited from having him at the club. However, time to move on.
BOING BOING!!
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44-LaughingWolf you are a pathetic individual! What world are you in? Robinson was voted the best LB in the championship by his peers. Not bad for a non committed joker. Talking of jokers, the laugh is still on you pal. Laughing at you Wolf.
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Ohh….by the way…our ship is sinking !!!
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phillips 4 wanderers barmy army /!
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number 44 laughingwolf do you realise what a idiot you sound.. please think about your comments… all you do is show people what a low life you really are…
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Spot on TM, as ever. My money is on them staying anyway once their bluff is called! Great players but no one ( apart from The King and Bomber !!) have ever been irreplaceable at the club.
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Gera should sign at least a two year deal if he is showing commitment ? It is all about money. They have had the bonus and agents want to push for a bit more. I would sooner Albion play with loyal well paid players, rather than greedy same effort for the money players.
Get some fresh blood in with potential and see what they can do given the chance. Has beens on yer bike.
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TM is doing things the proper way and building a happy team unit,if KP and Gera go so be it,TM will replace them….
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44.
New ground promised to you by Your Liverpool-supporting Piers Morgan. You’d much rather have that to a proper chairman, a good manager and some decent players, wouldn’t you?
Where’s all the investment Captain Morgan was going to put into the team? Has he got to wait for the change from the tenner he paid Sir Jack for the club before he starts?
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32.”Your coming straight back down. FACT!”
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I know you have difficulty keeping a grip on reality but even you cannot claim to know a possible future occurrence is a “FACT!” – writing it in BIG LETTERS does not improve your case.
Hope this FACT! does not spoil your illusions.
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BRISBANE BAGGIE SAID I AGREE WITH MALVERN WOLF SOMEONE HAS TO DRAW THE LINE YOU KEEP PAYING THESE STUPID WAGES IT IS NO GOOD FOR ANY TEAM AT THE END OF THE LINE YOU PUT YOU TEAM IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE EVEN WOLVES
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We should look to se if we could have Niclas Bendtner from Arsenal on loan. Yesterday he terrorised the Dutch defence in a 1-1 game Holland v Denmark. Absolutly brilliant performence. In the same game, Sorensen had to pull out 15 min before kick off, and Jesper Christiansen came in. Other than a missjudged interseption in the opening stages, he had a wery good game as well. Saved a hand full of Dutch 100% chances, and comes out as an ekstra sweeper when danger with long balls. Defenetly worth a futher look. Danish Baggie
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Had a chat with a championship manager recently. Summed us up perfectly, great to watch, wonderful going forward. CANT DEFEND!! says he always fancied scoring against us, and they did!Phillips is a must, even as a part time player. Gera will go for one big pay day. Do hope he signs though.We have to sign a couple of experienced defenders, or we will definately struggle. If you dont concede you have at least a point. Saying that this is the best chance we have of establishing ourselves in the greedy league. In Tony we trust!!!!
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32 LCW.
Planet Earth calling Zog. Your signal very weak. Repeat your signal ve……..
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44 Laughing Wolf.
Um Geronimick said to Water Buffalo Elokobi, ‘you try plenty hard, you be second best left back behind Cripple Creek Robbo. In last great Indian wars was it not non committed Little Chief KP and Jumping Cricket Zoltan that counted coup on Sinking Wolf tribe? 40K Happy hunting ground, booing will echo around half empty stands like thunder of great storm brewing, or is it sound of mighty rapids you heading for. Good luck, best wear life jacket.
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Sorry about that. Meanwhile on the article in case. It’s not greedy footballers that are killing our game, it’s avaricious agents. I don’t call for agents to be banned from football. I would much rather have them lined up against a wall and shot.
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nobodys answer my question hows the ground capacity reduction going? mr morgan is a wolves man through and through, so mr peace was a lifelong baggie? when were in the prem filling 40k seats will not be an issue. your losing your 2 best players een if they did stay your still going down! smallest club in the prem WBA! WE ARE WOLVES!
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71 Laughing Wolf.
Real Sitting Bully try to answer question with question. ‘When we’re in the prem filling 40K seats will not be an issue.’ My question. When? Or in traditional red indian. How?
PS. Ground reduction going well. we will have people on the outside wishing they could get in. You will have 22K on the inside wishing they could get out. Never mind, think of the effect of 40K booing. Unbelievable.
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71-’when we’re in the prem’,'when we are big again’,'when people notice us’,'when….RING!RING!-wakey,wakey,the alarm’s just gone off dreamy dingle…back to your sad reality.
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23 nedball wolves are and allways will be a bigger and better club and you will be down next year and mowbray will be gone bong bong up the wolves.
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71 Morgan Wolves through and through. You all know he’s chosen you behind his real love Liverpool. Even the smallest club in the Prem (which we are not – Hull / Stoke / Pompey / Wigan /Fulham on av attendance last year all below us) has still got to be in the Prem.
Wish you were here and don’t you know it.
Real Bully – that’s a great comment (72)
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74.
Are you Mystic Meg? Or plastic Mac?
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75 alleged wba fans making silly comments like yours make us look stupid-write something sensible or dont bother at all.
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Hi All
My humble opinion is..
Sign kev n gera they are the premier bar we need too set now promoted,30grand plus wages!
But its at the defence we need utmost attention.Man u won league due too the best defence…
We have our left and right back sorted both good enough for the prem…centers are main issue with a goalie and holding midfield next..
Tm is suberb manager..so best too 2008/9
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74 & 77 whatver you pair of idiots. Your just so wrong!
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