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£5 gallon is on the way
Friday 18th April 2008, 11:45AM BST.
The £5 gallon of petrol is “just around the corner” for the West Midlands, the AA warned today as oil prices hit new record highs.
The average price of a litre of unleaded petrol in the region is now 108.1p – the equivalent of £4.91 a gallon.
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It has risen more than a penny a litre in the past month and is edging ever closer to the 110p mark which would signify the £5 gallon.
Diesel has soared to 117.5p a litre in the West Midlands, or £5.34 a gallon, slightly above the UK average of 117.4p.
The AA warned today motorists are having to cut back on spending elsewhere in order to keep their cars running.
Soaring prices on the nation’s garage forecourts have been driven by the cost of oil, which has grown by 20 per cent so far this year and is now at a record 115 US dollars a barrel.
AA president Edmund King said: “UK motorists are spending more than £10.2 million extra on fuel each day compared to last year. This is beginning to hit the economy with car-dependent motorists cutting back on other expenditure.”
Mr King called on Chancellor Alistair Darling to abandon his proposed 2p per litre increase in October. Mr Darling had planned the rise for this month before postponing it in last month’s Budget.
He said: “Families are having to reduce high street spending and businesses, low-income and rural drivers are becoming more vocal about the impact of high fuel prices on their financial well-being.”
Economist Howard Wheeldon from BGC Partners said there were few signs that the higher prices were leading to cutbacks in car use. He said: “Nothing it seems is about to halt the insatiable rising global demand for gasoline and no matter what the price consumers remain very willing to pay to fill up the car.”
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It could be £10 a gallon and would’nt make any difference to the amount of traffic on the roads.People prefer their cars to public transport and will continue to pay any increase.
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here in Canada? petrol is about 55 pence a gallon
ha! ha!
its good to live in Canada
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Good to live in Canada?? With your neighbours? Don’t think so! There’s more to life than cheap petrol…
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I’m sure antony means 55p per liter.
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years back people protested when petrol hit £1 a liter why not today when its nearing £1.50 ?
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Get on your bikes burn some fat and save £££££
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I have just paid £5.22 per gallon for diesel, so I think I’ve got a bargain
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I have to smile at Howard Wheeldon’s comments.
Of course people still fill up their vehicles, they have to get to work !!!!!! Idiot
On the almost daily increase in fuel, the government have to step in. How can the petrol companies justify these rises, when they make billions of dollars profit every year
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its browns fault vote him out and teh rest of his in it for themselves gang! whats more I want an english parliament the scots welsh and NI have one why dont we!
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CONGRATULATIONS to the government, they have been wanting to turn us into a third world country for a while, and now its happening. people cant afford to drive, cant afford to buy what they want at the supermarkets and if they like a drink or a smoke they are treated like lepers. thanks a bunch gordon ‘mugabe’ brown. he has been shafting his own people for years and obviously the government see that as the way forward.
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make MPS pay the petrol instead of claiming it on expenses they might ask browne to cut taxes then thats why we pay more good old gord
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nu labour lies we’re doing fine jobless down rubbish,houses worth 30% less than they were last year,fuel tax at an all time high,gas elec food highest it’s been in 20 years good old labour same old labour killing the country with lies.
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Anthony, yes it may be cheap in Canada, but you have to drive miles just to get to the next town!
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There is NOT an integrated public transport system in this country so people rely on their cars to get to and from work, to shop, to socialise and for their leisure time. We are being screwed by the government and the oil companies. Modern cars use less fuel; is it sheer coincidence that petrol prices are rising? Diesel fuel is becoming more popular; is it coincidence that there has been a sharp hike in the price of diesel? If LPG becomes widely used as a fuel I wonder what will happen to the price?
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I like the way the government point the finger at the oil companies but 3/4 of the cost of a gallon of fuel is tax which goes to the government and come October they’re going to slap even more on. Trouble is, it doesn’t matter which party you vote for because all of them see fuel duty as an easy way to make money due to the fact public transport is crap and a lot of people need vehicles for their jobs.
A big national protest is needed but who would be willing to organise it?
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The problem with the UK and petrol is we’ve dug ourselves into a huge hole that we cannot get out of. Everyone knows 70%+ of the price is tax, but now the country depends on the income so very little will change in the future.
Nice comment about motorists are still ‘willing to pay’. Just goes to show how much out of touch MPs are with their strategies and the UK population. It’s simply not the point of willing to pay, us drivers have no choice when we need our cars to drive to work.
And don’t start ranting on about public transport. Where I work there is no viable solution, so get stuffed.
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The thing is even if the government charge less tax on a litre, they will only increase taxes else where to make up for it. Its been the same with the smoking ban..fewer people are smoking and drinking so the government make less in tax on them so they raise it elsewhere. And what happens when they do get all this tax money..it gets wasted!!! or spent on the wrong areas and guess what? when they do realise its been wasted they fleece us for more taxes..we are paying for the cost of our own slavery!!!
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The country’s in a state. No-one’s got any spare money. Everything is rising except house prices, wages and public spending. From Monday to Friday this week, my bedshops total takings were £360. (My Rent is more than my profit). Everyone I speek to seems to be in the same boat.
If the government doesn’t act soon, I can see many small businesses being forced to close down and many more people being unemployed. As far as I can see, we are on the brink of the bigest recesion this country is yet to see.
The question is, What can we do about it? The answer appears to be nothing. Yes, we can vote for a different government next year, but what good is that? They’ll just lie, cheat and line there own pockets like every other government has.
Something has to change and Fast!
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Some of the comments are ridiculous, firms are going out of business because of the insane tax on fuel. You people seem to think that everyone should get on a bike and go about their daily business- Id like to see you people go collect heavy goods on your bikes.
The government knows that the elasticity of demand for fuel is in such a way that no matter what the price, people have to buy it.
Before long the government will be taxing us for the oxygen we breathe!
GET GORDON BROWN OUT!
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So Carl — taxation without representation is tyranny? Hmmmm where have I heard that before?
Unfortunately, that isn’t the point now. The point now is that in the 1970s when we all KNEW petrol was finite and we needed alternate fuels, neither the Americans nor the Brits did anything to encourage alternate fuels, conservation etc. Complain all you want about taxes, but if the taxes collected had gone toward perfecting non-polluting cars and alternate methods of electric generation, we’d be in much better shape now. Instead, we’re taxing cigs, the Americans are lowering taxes on the rich oil tycoons, and the middle east is socking it away for tough times ….. just be glad you aren’t on an island in the Pacific with a mean elevation of 1 metre above sea level —- THOSE folks have problems!
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There is NO way I would use Public transport. Its too costly, never on time, dirty, bosses never take any notice to the ‘my bus was late’ excuse. But mainly – its dangerous. I have been robbed, verbally abused by drunks, etc, etc. If its such a good way to travel, why is the bus driver behind a shield? What about people who start work at 6am 20 miles away? We ought to copy the French and protest – otherwise the goverment are just lining their pockets as usual.
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Well looks lie I won’t be spending my USD in Dudley for a while, bad enough over here right now.Canada ? I have my own small company & used to go to Canada about 6 times /year on buisness, now it’s too expensive.
Hey I just found, out Tony Brown has been over here for the last few days, what an impression he must have made, coming over the same time as the Pope,that’s thinking ahead -
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Mr Brown stop thinking of big business and put the people of this country first.. Blue labour are sailing us down the river but sadly there is no alternative for the working person in this country anymore… sad state of affairs
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This Labour government takes approximately 80 pence in every £1 as fuel tax, it has nothing to do with the high cost of oil that’s driving up the price, its this governments obsession with taxing motorists off the road that is driving up the price.
The reason that they want to drive us off the road is because of the estimated increase in the population in the UK, the other day it was reported that the population of the UK was going to increase from 60 million to 90 million in less than 20 years, if we are all driving our cars then where are all the cars going to go, the government isn’t going to build or improve the roads in the UK, so if the motorist cant afford to drive that leaves more room for more people coming here from the EU.
Gordon Brown doesn’t really need any more money, as well as the hundreds of millions of pounds he has given to 3rd world countries to improve their education, he has just given £100 million to countries effected by malaria, to supply them with mosquito nets to rid them of malaria, doesn’t matter about British people dying of cancer because they are being denied life saving cancer drugs.
Trouble is we pay up and let it happen, we are unable to connect what is happening to the country to the fact that we actually vote this government in, and in the local elections coming up we will do it again, we ask for everything we get.
Jim of Bearwood
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BRIAN IN AUSSIE SAID I AGREE WITH ANTONY. THE PETROL IN AUSSIE IS A LOT CHEPER AS WELL WE CAN AFORD TO GO FROM TOWN TO TOWN AND NOT WORRY ABOUT HOW MUCH IT WILL COST TO THE END OF THE STREET.ITIS ALSO NICE TO LIVE IN AUSSIE AS WELL.THE SUN IS SHINNING THINK I WILL GET SOME PETROL AND GO TO THE BEACH
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6 – yeah great if you work just down the road. Even better in the wind, rain, snow. Then in the summer, get into work sweating and stinking of BO all day!! All these people going on about biking it to work are all talking nonsense. Its not the answer as most people have a good way to travel to work, we don’t all work on our doorstep.
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I told you in many blogs to look out it will only get worse perhaps now people will start to believe, its amazing what you can learn from bitter ex Ministers ans MPs if you ask the right questions:))
Get snouts out the trough party.
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Jim of Bearwood – rising prices nothing to do with price of oil? Perhaps then you’ll furnish us with the change in cost of a barrel of oil over the past couple of years, compared to duty increases (virtually nothing). We’re approaching or have reached peak oil production, world energy consumption is rising. Fuel is not going to get any cheaper. No government is going to cut fuel duty (and why should it?).
The motorist isn’t being hard done by either. In real terms, over the past 30 years, bus/rail fares have gone up over 80% above inflation. Motoring costs have remained virtually static. It is public transport users who are getting a raw deal and not the motorist.
Fuel is still too cheap as long as people are prepared to break speed limits and drive at 80, 90mph+ down the motorway. Most cars will do significantly more mpg if driven carefully and within the speed limit. I bet many people haven’t even thought about their driving style, but if they changed it they could more than offset the rise in fuel price through the increasing their mpg.
There are plenty of journeys that people could stop using their cars for now without the slightest inconvenience. Lots of people drive for journeys less than a mile or two – mostly out of laziness not necessity (that newspaper really is heavy isn’t it…) – they could easily walk. Equally there are plenty of journeys that people could choose to use public transport or cycle for – the option exists now. Sadly people always choose to point out the journeys they “have” to use a car for, rather than actually looking at those where they don’t “have” to.
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Ok, reduce the fuel tax and people will be happier? Still have to give government the income.
So reduce fuel tax by say 50p per litre and add £4k a year on to road tax. Will that please people?
Or could cut fuel tax and cut pensions & benefits to match. Will that please people?
Oil prices have gone up. Opec have no incentive to increase supply, they are raking it in.
The oil companies making a profit? Most of it is outside this country so even a windfall tax would only be on a small part of their profit.
People choose to use their cars. You pay a few grand (or more) for a car, you pay £100 road tax, you pay a few hundred pounds insurance.
So of course you are going to use the car.
Its convenient, quick, relatively safe and gets you exactly where you want to go.
Most people don’t NEED a car. But they do WANT a car because it makes life so much easier.
So hey, we end up paying a chunk of our taxes through fuel purchase.
Don’t like it? Don’t pay for the fuel.
Prius has a conversion to allow it to run 30 miles on a charge, can be charged at home and in that 30 miles no fuel tax to pay as using battery. About 45p to charge up.
Yet haven’t seen many people choosing a very economical car. Maybe people like paying so much fuel tax.
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29. Martin Davies. People talk about how great cars like the Prius are but that particular car has a greater carbon footprint over its first three years than most other family hatches in the world when taken from the production stage. Unfortunately the green lobby and marketing teams skip the manufacturing part because they don’t want you to know that fact. Bio fuel is also going to be more damaging to the environment as most of it is going to be produced in areas which were once rainforest and are being cleared in order for this financially benefiacial product to be grown. Hydrogen cells are the way forward but not enough investment is being put into this. The easy answer would be for all of the car manufacturers to pool their resources to speed up the development but this will never happen as somebody will always want to come first so it’s just a case of waiting for Honda to sort it out
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Hydrogen? Then do we wait for the new Ford Focus? the new BMW? As well as Honda, both of them have piloted a hydrogen vehicle.
But even once you have a ‘green car’ and ‘green fuel’ you’ll still have high fuel tax as government still needs to keep its income up.
I’ve no great love for the Prius, I prefer 4x4s. But the Prius is the only car I know that has the ability, with conversion, to avoid fuel tax. If kept running within its battery charge and charged at home.
Otherwise we will simply pay fuel taxes plus whatever the petrol companies charge (including supermarkets). Oil price keeps going up, our petrol and diesel price will keep going up.
Car use won’t go down much, if at all. Petrol price has doubled in the last 10 years, haven’t seen any reduction in the number of cars on the road or the driving done.
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Dominic, I really thought that we wouldn’t have idiots commenting on this issue !!!! your either not living in the UK or you’re a wind up merchant having laugh, the point I was making was the tax that is levied on every pound we have in our pocket, its not the price of oil that’s the problem, it’s the government tax loading that’s the problem.
But back to the cost of fuel, so your telling me that the price of fuel hasn’t increased? Your telling me that the tax on fuel hasn’t increased? What about the VAT on fuel? What about the tax on car insurance? What about the tax on car repairs and servicing, What about the tax on car spares? What about the Road Tax being increased? What about all the extra parking charges that have been bought in, I make no apologies for saying this, you’re a fool, and I don’t find your sense of humour very funny.
Dominic I will try and keep this simple for you, your obviously unable to comprehend how this government is taxing the workers to death in this country, if you had a car at this time last year and you worked out the cost of running it for a week, if you had the same car this year and you worked out what it cost you to run it for a week, that cost would have been increased by approximately £25 a week.
Fuel doesn’t have to cost that much, the same fuel in the USA is a third of what it costs here, my sister in law went on holiday to somewhere in South America, she was talking to the coach driver, who told her how much it cost to fill his coach up with fuel, it was the equivalent of £35 in our money, it takes me nearly £70 to fill my VW Touran diesel tank, our oil is no different to oil in the USA, its only the tax that’s different, take the tax off fuel and it would cost me about £5, that’s the difference.
People keep saying that the government would have to raise taxes in other ways, why??? If Gordon Brown can afford to give hundreds of millions of pounds to 3rd world countries to help improve their children’s education, countries like Africa, India, Pakistan, Eastern Europe, then he doesn’t need that much tax off us, if he can give over a hundred million to these same countries to pay for Mosquito nets, again he doesn’t need to tax us that much, hope its clearer now Dominic.
Jim of Bearwood
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I think the ballot papers should just print an extra tick box stating “none of the above”
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Jim of Bearwood: I’m deadly serious. Yes the cost of fuel has gone up in real terms, but the cost of motoring hasn’t. My point is that public transport users have suffered massive real terms increases in fares. The result is that motoring has become more affordable in real terms (especially against rising disposable income) and public transport less affordable. It is those who have to rely on public transport who have really suffered and not the motorist.
My car certainly isn’t costing £25 a week more than last year to run, for the vast majority of car owners that kind of increase simply isn’t true.
Over time the total cost of running a car has come down – purchase and maintenance costs have come down (more miles between servicing etc), and fuel efficiency has generally increased. Vehicle excise duty has come down for many cars. There are plenty of motors around for which the tax disc is only £35/year.
In the USA the cost of fuel has been going up, much to the annoyance of the population over there. Even if we had a lower level of duty on fuel, people would still complain when it went up due to the cost of oil rising. You also neglect to mention that the average American car is hideously inefficient, because the lower cost of fuel doesn’t give manufacturers the incentive to improve efficiency. I suspect if you compared the total cost of motoring between the US and UK it may not be as different as you think.
As I said, fuel isn’t yet that expensive if people are still prepared to drive their cars vastly over the speed limit on the motorway (massively increasing fuel consumption) and driving far bigger and less efficient cars than they actually need. The growth in the numbers of 4x4s over the years is a good case in point.
Personally, I don’t have a problem with the government spending money on foreign aid. There is no case for reducing fuel duty and decreasing expenditure elsewhere to compensate. Nor do I think that a cut in fuel duty would be anywhere near covered by cutting foreign aid expenditure which in the scale of public spending is pretty small.
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Dominic, my motoring costs in the last 10 years have doubled on fuel alone, never mind road tax, repair bills, servicing etc.
Jim – yes, other countries charge quite a bit less than us for fuel tax. However, they get their taxes in other ways.
Some of our other taxes are lower.
For whatever reason, in this country a lot of money is spent on free health, free education, free this, free that. But the end result is thye are all paid for by taxes.
Reduce the tax and you’ll have to reduce the spending. Or add the tax back on elsewhere.
Fine, cut a few hundred million overseas aid. Make a tiny difference in the total spent.
Plenty of other places to spend the money. But reducing taxation isn’t one of them.
Come on, we’ve just had a 100% tax hike in income tax for the lowest paid.
Martin
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Dominic you really need to tell the rest of us where you’re working and living because it seems you’re out of touch with the rest of society.
It seems you have very little experience in the real world. Your comments are ridiculous so please do tell where you’ve been hiding all these years.
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Dave Philips – my comments are based in fact. If you think I’m wrong, fair enough, but lets see the evidence. You will not find evidence to disprove the points I have been making, which include:
- Public transport fares have risen massively in real terms, whilst total motoring costs haven’t (in fact motoring costs dipped in the 1990s). Public transport users are getting the worse deal, not motorists.
- Banded vehicle excise duty means that many motorists pay less road tax per year.
- Many motorists could reduce their fuel expenditure simply by driving within the speed limit on the motorway, and by driving more carefully (gentle acceleration etc). Fuel isn’t yet so expensive if people are prepared to waste it.
- People need to consider their choice of car. Many impose higher motoring costs on themselves by choosing a bigger or less efficient car than they really need.
- People need to use their cars less for short journeys (which also use the most fuel because of cold engine).
I’m not anti-car by any stretch – I own a car, but it must be said that people have a massively distorted view of motoring costs. In the past three decades motoring has become vastly more affordable, and public transport less affordable. That is plain fact. If I’m wrong, I look forward to seeing verifiable evidence rather than just conjecture.
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Honestly Dominic I have far better things to do with my time than try and convince the minority (ie you) of the real facts.
If you’re so adamant that your views are correct then book yourself a slot on national television and see how the vote goes. I think you’re in for a severe shock.
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Dominic your obviously a labour part member, please don’t treat us like fools, it’s a dead giveaway when a person says, “in real Terms” only politicians use that term, in the hope that they will impress you enough to make you believe they know what they are talking about.
If the cost of living hasn’t really gone up “In Real Terms” why did Blair and Prescott have a £60.000 rise on their TAX FREE pensions? Why have MP’s asked for a 66% pay rise, how can they justify this increase if the cost of living hasn’t gone up?
Now for a few facts!!!!!!!!!
Fact, my diesel costs 20pence a litre more this year than last, that is an undisputable fact.
Fact, To fill my fuel tank up 2 years ago cost me £45, now the same fuel talk costs nearer £60, the tank hasn’t grown, the cost of fuel taken to fill the tank has increased.
Fact,My Road Tax hasn’t gone down, its increased under the last budget, yes I can get a smart car to drive round in but where do I put the family? On the roof?
We were all conned into buying diesel cars because they were cleaner and cheaper to run, why does Diesel now cost more than Petrol? Because it raises more revenue for the government!!!
Fact we send aid to countries like Pakistan/India, these two countries are fighting a war over Kashmir, our money is subsidising this war, these countries are trying to develop nuclear weapons, they are using their money for war, they are using our money to provide for their people, this while our own people are going begging.
Africa, we are sending them aid, was I dreaming when I read about that ship coming from China full of arms to kill the people in Zimbabwe.
Yes there are reasons to send aid abroad but not to use that aid to fight wars, and not at the cost of British People suffering.
Jim of bearwood
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India? Pakistan?
Last I looked they don’t need to develop nuclear weapons. Each has had them for years.
Sure, cut overseas aid. Won’t make a difference to your fuel bill though.
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Adam, I am sure that your comment about ‘living with your neighbours” alludes to America as the obvious target of your comment. I live in Florida, have been to England several times, and thepeople in tha UK are without any doubt, the most dreary, antiquated, living in the past, beer drinking, no teeth , smelly people (and the bad breath that goes along with bad hygiene) I have ever met! Look me up when you are ready to start living your life..you would have to move to the US tho..sorry
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