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Wolves blog: Shambolic
Tuesday 12th February 2008, 8:34AM GMT.
When I got into Molineux on Saturday and somebody told me that Stephen Elliott was starting on the bench, I thought perhaps Mick had finally seen the light, writes Wolves blogger Nathan Lloyd.
But when the team sheet was read out and Kevin Kyle had a place in the starting line up, I was baffled.
I was sure that on the back of Freddy’s glowing report for the Welsh national team in their defeat of Norway in midweek that he would be full of confidence and get a start.
I think if I was Freddy Eastwood and saw that Kevin Kyle’s name was named in the first 11 ahead of mine, I would be ready to grab my coat and go.
In an eight year career, Kyle has scored 22 goals. Ok, so he wasn’t brought to the club for his scoring record, but what else does he offer?
On Saturday he won his fair share of balls in the air and even had a hand in both our goals.
But when Freddy came on, you could instantly see the quality he possesses and I’m baffled as to why Mick won’t give him a start.
I’ll probably make myself a little unpopular here, (but then what’s new?), when I say that Andy Keogh is another player I’m not overly keen on.
He just doesn’t do enough with the ball and desperately needs someone to show him how to strike a ball at goal.
And before someone points out that he has scored a few goals recently, remember that even Adam Proudlock once scored a hat-trick in a Wolves shirt, so it can’t be that difficult.
I’m probably taking my frustrations out on the wrong individual, but Saturday’s performance was shambolic and apart from Michael Gray, I’d struggle again to pick out anyone who had a decent game.
I did chuckle yesterday when MM came out and said that we are good enough to still go up automatically.
We are 11 points off second, 12 really if you take into consideration our abysmal goal difference and not exactly lighting-up the division with scintillating performances.
Mick said: “Some people might say I’m talking nonsense”. Yes Mick, some of us might indeed say that.
Does he see the same team play as the rest of us? Does he honestly think we are anywhere good enough to challenge for promotion?
We’ve now got more strikers at the club than Arthur Scargill had in the Eighties and it’s abundantly clear that Mick should have concentrated on the defence in the transfer window.
Or is it that Mick is just failing to get the best out a squad that is perfectly capable of launching an assault on promotion?
The worrying thing for me is that we are nearing the business end of the season and Mick still doesn’t know what his best team is.
I’ve been criticized on here for joining in with the “boo-boy” culture that apparently exists at Molineux.
But I and many fans have stuck with Mick as he played Stephen Ward on the left wing, played a different front two every week and refused to give the youth who did so well last season, a chance in the first team.
And when you watch us crumble as we did against Stoke and Watford last week, you can’t just carry on blindly supporting a failing management that has really lost its way this season.
The worrying thing is that I’m sure that Mick will get another bite of the cherry, should he fail this season.
In the Steve Bull stand, the people around me always make the same empty threat when the early bird is announced; “I’m not coming back next season to watch this rubbish”.
I’ve only ever known one couple actually carry out that threat about five years ago and they now pick and choose which games to go to.
That’s where the club has got us by the short and curlies. I would just drive my missus mad if I didn’t get out of the house on a matchday.
So I’ll be back next season, even if Mick somehow keeps his job.
If Mick did jack it all in tomorrow, who would we want at the club and probably more importantly who would take up what really is a poison chalice.
We are such an impatient lot and I include myself. Not many managers have had the luxury of time to mould a successful team at the club.
Likely successors to the post have been muted many times on these pages. What we usually find is that the club goes slightly left field and the appointment takes us all by surprise.
I’d still like Mick to prove me wrong and illustrate that he really isn’t talking nonsense.
On another note, two players at the right and wrong end of the PR spectrum this week; Bothroyd and Breen.
Jay Bothroyd came out and had a go at the small minority of fans who have booed or berated him and a couple of our other under performers this season.
Bothroyd is talented but lazy. By coming out and calling the Wolves fans fickle, (which to a certain degree we know we are), what does he hope to achieve?
He could start by giving us that 100 per cent he claims he is putting in. I would just like him out of the club full stop.
Although I would never condone getting on our players’ backs in this way, fans pay their money and are entitled to voice their opinions.
I’m a big believer that fans should voice their disapproval at the final whistle. I don’t think getting on our own players’ backs during the game can be anything except counter-productive.
After Bothroyd had had a little whine and a moan, Gary Breeeen came out and told his team mates to stop whingeing about the demands of the fans.
Breen stated that expectations have obviously been raised from last season and that the only real way to get the crowd onside is to start playing better football.
Bothroyd and Breen were basically saying the same thing but Gary had the intelligence to try and get the fans onside, whereas Bothroyd threw every single toy out of his big Bentley pram and is now even less popular than before.
With Wolves being voted the biggest whingers in the “Prawn Sandwich” awards, it makes you wonder how many people actually voted and in reality who gives a stuff?
And so it’s off to the seaside tonight to face Blackpool at Bloomfield Road in a sold out encounter.
If nothing else it will be a chance to switch our abuse onto Paul Dickov who is on loan from Man City and is always guaranteed a bit of stick from the Wolves faithful.
A win could put us in contention for an unlikely play-off place, whereas a loss would leave us firmly planted in mid-table.
The likelihood is that there won’t be a lot of changes from the loss at the weekend. Olofinjana is back in contention and perhaps Elokobi might find a starting berth.
Good luck to the lad’s tonight and let’s hope nobody’s mother gets too upset.
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I agree with all your comments except the one about keogh, we can all see the defence is poor and it wouldnt be long before someone put a few passed us, but mm couldnt see it. by the way my early bird is in the bin
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Vitriol or what?! Having said that, I have to regrettably agree with many of the sentiments expressed. As a Wolves fan of 40 years and seen them through the thickest and thinnest of times, I am getting too old for all this frustration. Whenever I listen to the matches on Beacon, the first surprise is always the starting line up – perm 11 from 22 but never choose the same team twice so as to confuse our opponents. Then, as the game unfolds it becomes evident that there is no tactical plan and that the 11 players appear to be unaware of each other’s method of play – hence the headless chickens analogy! MM had the chance to bolster the defence during January and singularly failed to do so perhaps, with the exception of Elukubi and he sat on the bench on Saturday. I read that he could slot in as a centre back, just what we need if he is as strong and mobile as he is young. Let’s hope Blackpool isn’t another black night!
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just seems like more of the same really, would love mm to of got us up but lets face it, its just not going to happen.
Says it all really when i dont fancy our chances of beating Blackpool.
I live in hope – but know i’m going to be dissapointed.
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MM as found his front two Kyle and Blake he obviously doesnt rate Eastwood,i thought Boothroyd did well when he came on against Sheff wed so was surpirdsed to see him dropped from the bench,Gray can hold the ball well and pass well but defensiveley hes been poor especially in the last two games were you there against stoke.
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agree totally about what you have said.
no excuses for that performance at the weekend, a JOKE.
how is it that they are keeping their faith in MM, he ain’t going to do it and never will and as for bothroyd get rid now i cant stand his attitude.
lets give the likes of freddy eastwood, jones, gleeson and all the othe youngsters a cahnce now because we are not going no-where the season.
WAKE UP MR MORGAN
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I just struggle to see where that run we need is going to come from. We’ve only beaten the second bottom team and the (then) third bottom team – with an injury time winner – in our last 12 games. And it’s not the fact that we’re only 2 points off the playoffs – there have been too many seasons when we find ourselves in similar mid-table positions at this stage but only a handful of points off 6th. Someone in the six positions above us will have a good run and are better placed to do this. We’ve only really had good runs (getting playoff spots both times) in the final 15 games twice – out of about 18 seasons! The odds are against us unfortunately.
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Got to agree with everything except the Keogh comment, the kids got ability and is starting to find his shooting boots. Tonight will be the start of the end for MM if we don’t win (hopefully). P.S My early birds not being renewed although the missus has offered to pay cos apparently I’ll be a ‘right miserable b*@~*rd if I sit at home’
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what a brillint post, spot on my friend! couldnt have said it better myself! its a pitty the players cant read this and mick!!!!
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I feel we still lack a true leader on the pitch, to orchestrate the team
2-1 up and left ourselves wide open, is not the way.
Breen although not young or as mobile is the only one who organises on the pitch.
Craddock has been badly missed also , to get one of these 2 back will be a big plus
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Problem is that MM will get another shot at promotion next Year and after a poor start will get sacked in November.
We’ve been here before so many times…….McGhee, Taylor, Jones etc !!
Mick has obviously lost the dressing room now as well as a good percentage of the fan base. His blind refusal to play a proven goalscorer (Eastwood) in the team has only proven that he is a manager who firmly believes that he is correct in his vision of this club, when clearly he has lost his way.
It’s time for him to go, but we all know it’s unlikely to happen. I dread the possibility of a rare West Brom away win, but we all know it’s probably going to happen at Molineux in early March and maybe that will wake up Morgan and Moxey to take decisive action
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Nathan, agree with most of what you say again.
I won’t knock you for your comments on Keogh… I agree completely. He is honest and hard working but he doesn’t have a forwards instinct which is why he keeps getting caught in two minds. He is more like an attacking midfielder in my eyes, problem is we already have a better one of those at the club and he can’t get a game… Rosa.
As for Mick, your comments are accurate: he is still at a loss for his first choice team. He has changed the front two almost every week this season and his lack of knowledge and imagination in attack was proved again on Saturday. Let’s not even mention playing people out of position when there are other options he could adopt.
I have said all along that he wanted a “Niall Quinn” clone as it’s the only way he knows to attack. Now he has Kyle it is obvious he will use him even at home. It’s schoolboy football… hoof it up to the big lad and all run for the box- just how he played with the Republic. For all those who called for Allardyce… you already have him.
I still think we should stick with Mick until the end of the season, when, having failed to meet any of his own stated targets, he should resign himself.
I sincerely hope we don’t earn promotion this season. If we do, Mick will stay and our young team will get crushed by a year in the Premiership. They are not ready to deal with that pressure. Mick has brought in some good youngsters but none of them are the finished article. He has failed at every opportunity to add a quality centre back. He has little idea tactically and doesn’t know his “base from his apex” when it comes to strikers or attacking in general. The Premiership under Mick would hurt us in a way only the Bhatti’s have before.
I still believe that over time Mick will build a good squad, many of whom will be at our core for some years. I just don’t believe he is tactically or inspirationally competent to lead us in the top flight.
As for Breen’s comments… He showed his maturity and professionalism. He may not be the fans favourite but he is a proper old school player who gives his all. It isn’t a coincidence that the loss of him and Craddock had a huge effect on our defensive record. They may be old and slow but they are better than anything else we have at the club.
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Should this run of form continue to the end of the season, I wonder if Moxey will have the balls to state this season has been a disaster, as he did when Twoddle was in charge?
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absolutly spot on nathan,mick clearly isnt making decisions for the benefit of the team or the club anymore.he seems to have so sort of vendetta or issues that are affecting his judgement,but one things clear he’s not up to the job anymore and if morgan cant see that then id be very concerned,id hope he is starting to ask what the hell is going on thats if he already hasnt !
MCARTHY OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nathan I agree generally with all your comments particularly about Keogh. He does not posses the killer touch in front of gaol nor does he have defence splitting passes. He has scores a few goals of late but none of them could be describes as having coming from an incisive strike of the ball.
Regarding Eastwood I am coming to believe that there is something we do not know going on in the background and this is keeping him out. In contrast to Keogh its very clear that Eastwood does know where the goal is and strikes the ball like a true goal scorer. This is even apparent during the pre-match warm up. How MM can pay £1.5m for a player and then total fail to give him an opportunity to fit in is unfathomable and if I was Mr Morgan I would be seeking answers.
There might be a case for including Ball in mid-field or even on the wing with Jarvis on the other. Ball works very hard but he is supposed to be a full back and he does not cut it there.
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15.Don Wolf
When you say Ball, do you mean Michael Gray? Michael Ball is a poncy singer.
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I agree with a lot of what is being said but l think MM should be given the remainder of the season to try and get us into the play offs. We have a good enough squad but he must decide what his best team is and stick to it. This is particularly true of the forwards. I would personally pair Keogh and SEB using Freddie from the bench. Once Breen/Craddock return, the defence should at least have a bit of leadership which we are currently sadly lacking. If MM fails to reach the top six with our current squad then yes he must go.
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I totally agree with you on the Keough issue. The lad is full of heart and effort and should be commended for this but I believe he lacks quality and touch.
He panics every time he sees the white of the goal and invariably lashes wildly at the ball. He never looks up to decide what his options are when on the ball and usually makes the wrong decision as a result. Some of his passing and lay-offs in the past few games have been shocking.
He is a centre forward who, despite his recent purple patc, will never score maore than 10-12 goals in a season and that is not good enough if you want to get promoted.
I hope I am proved wrong.
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agree with everyting you say,but why haven’t people realised how useless foley is aswell,the northampton press are calling little outstanding,but of course mick can’t play him because he came through the academy,because if you’re an outfield player you can’t do that in thick micks world.
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Disagree with Nathan Lloyd’s comment re:Michael Gray. It’s true that with the ball at his feet he’s one of our better players. Unfortunately, when the opposition have the ball he’s a liability. Often out of position and lacks pace. Goals conceded against Watford (no.3) and Stoke (nos.3&4) illustrate my point.
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Short-termism. We are not winning, so sack the manager. It’s worked so well in the past, so let’s continue with it.
I get accused of being a Mick McCarthy love child, a relative, or even Mick himself. I can see Mick McCarthy’s faults as well as you can. The defence needs sorting, but how unlucky to lose the experienced defenders, Craddock and Breen at the same time? When you do have a young side it is a must that you have a few experienced heads to temper the naivety of younger players. Breen and Craddock would be that. Where better to have that than at the back, where the experienced players can see what is happening, and direct the youth. (They don’t need the legs to bomb around everywhere. They need a brain that sees things, and to get the players with legs to do the running. We lost both long-term, and at the same time.) It does not take intelligence to knock everything you see. If you are going to knock, let’s at least see sensible suggestions that need to happen on the field for sorting the problems. I don’t notice the cheap shot merchants, Sue D’Nimm, etc giving solutions. They sit there sniping at others, but offer nothing other than “play Freddy” or “sack Mick.” Cheap shots are a way of hiding any real understanding. All you have to do is suggest that people are “relatives of Mick,” or “don’t know what they are talking about.” The sheep will do the rest. Abdonwolf and I don’t always agree, but at least he does talk football, and gives arguments for his beliefs. I can respect people like that. I work as an accountant, and have to be involved in long-term planning. “If you fail to plan, you may as well plan to fail,” is a well known phrase in business. MM has said he is planning for long-term. I happen to think that is good sense. Along the way you lose games, but long-term you achieve success. If that makes MM “brainless,” what does it make of the short-term brigade that come on here sniping, but would never make a success of managing a football team.
What I can’t go for is the short-termism that keeps us thinking that changing managers every couple of years is the way forward. The successful teams don’t change managers like changing their socks. Alex Ferguson (no, I am not saying MM is in the same league as him) took seven years to win a title with Man Utd. They were going to get rid of him (fan “power”) if they lost a cup game to Forest. They stuck with him, and voila, they start winning. Dave Jones got us to the Prem, and was sacked half a season or less after us coming down. Why? The boo boys again. He was sacked way too soon. Graham Taylor was sacked. Why? The same fans who now say to play the young players coming through the academy. Taylor was the manager that really started the academy. The list goes on. (and on and on…) We have a manager that has said it would take three years to get us up with going for youth. We can’t play them all, so he sends those he considers not yet ready to lower leagues for experience. Jones and Little have done well at Northampton, and will be used when they are ready for the Championship. There is a big gulf though between Northampton and the Championship. We have to wean young players in. If you have a baby (and my wife and I have had six) you don’t give him or her solids straight away. You progress the food gradually. That is what McCarthy wants to do with these young players. I may be a mindless idiot when compared with “super brains” like Sue D’Nimm, (Stifled laughter) but I do try to look at things long-term. I just don’t see that we would be well-served by getting rid of MM now. What happens if he goes now? Someone else comes in with a new idea, and we are back at square one. Give them six months, and the boo-boys will start on them. (Yes, even Incey if he had a bad run.) (I do believe he is one for the future. So was Bryan Robson at Middlesborough.)
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When a manager is defencively minded he makes sure midfielders and forwards all track back -thats ok as long as when we are on the offensive we can hold the ball up and support the front men also. I truely beleive MM is void of ideas of how to get goals therefore he keeps changing his forward line up in the hope of something clicking and the purchase of EB Blake was in the hope he would continue to score as he has done for Plymouth but without positive play in the last third from forwards and midfielders alike we will always lack goals because 1 we dont create enough cahnces 2 we dont take the chance to shoot in case we miss. Oh for somebody like bully he may of scored 300+times but he shot on goal ratios must be 1000+. I’m off to stafford Rangers last one at molineux switch off the floodlights.
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I agree that it was a total surprise to see that Kevin Kyle was starting on Saturday, but to say that Eastwood should have started instead is just ridiculous. He has proved time and again that he was an over-priced panic buy, when it became clear that Billy Sharp wasn’t going to come to Molineux.
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What a very observant and correct blog. I have a feeling that the word DICKOV will feature well in the morning press.It usually does when he plays against us, it has been the case with the numerous teams he has played for.
It’s obvious team selection is done by drawing numbers. FREDDIE i’m afraid never gets into that huge Yorkshire hat that stubborn Mick wears on his oversize head.
Best of luck lads ill be listening in on the Wolves site whilst sipping my G & T IN SUNNY TENERIFE
IT’S SUCH A HARD LIFE.
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It seem like the World & his wife are rightly having a good old pop at Mick & his team selections today.Myself, I reckon he’s on borrowed time.I think he’s got 2 matches, Blackpool tonight & Cardiff the weekend.
Time will tell.
You can’t keep blaming the injuries suffered to key players.It’s an age old worn out pathetic excuse considering the size of the squad he has built.
The one thing I scratched the surface with yesterday were the shocking scenes witnessed during & after Saturday’s home defeat to Stoke.These “hooligans” that spat their dummies out last weekend,the game has no room for these morons & they should be banned for life for what they did/are trying to achieve in dragging Wolves back into the dark ages!
When you look at how the Man City fans were impecable in the minutes silence to the fallen heroes of 50 years ago,they should be applauded.On the other side of the coin, you have these idiots…..
MM might just prove us all wrong, but at this moment, I very much doubt it & reckon he’s going to join Messers Dowie,Mickey Adams, Martin Allen & probably Bryan Robson,who looks doomed to the DCM (Don’t come Monday) in the very near future.
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In answer to Nathan’s query about KK being in the starting line-up. It was a case of “horses for courses.” Stoke are a big, physical side that push opposing players around. Freddy Eastwood has the capability to be a good striker, but would have been pushed from pillar to post. KK was not pushed around. He also, as you said in your blog, made both of our goals. If you read my original posts on Kevin Kyle, I was opposed to his being brought in. He had a very good game on Saturday though. (Okay, he missed a sitter, but so do all strikers.) (Yes, even our beloved Freddy Eastwood.) For the record, I thought Eastwood “put in a shift” when he came on. He tried hard, but did not set the game alight. (admittedly he only had ten minutes, and may well be worth a full game tonight, as Blackpool are not going to be the same physical presence as Stoke.)
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with keogh its pretty much lose/lose situation
he plays and starts score he way to good for us and will be sold to prem side
he plays and doesnt score, then we all moan
kyle like every other striker at club, good work outside the box but when it matters he couldnt produce the goal
as to Mick Mccarthy any one wondered….
2weeks ago keogh and s.e.b was the dream partnership – where was that sat?
elliot is a “wing wizard” why wasnt he played there?
so mick has changed his mind in space 2weeks AGAIN!!!
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Let us not forget Marcarthy stated at the beginning of the season he was looking for an automatic promotion place. The team he stated was good enough for that status.
On that basis alone he has failed.
As stated in this article he does not know his best team.
Any 4 from ABCDE &F for the defence (not incl Hennessey)
Any 4 from GHIJK &L for midfield and any 2 from 7 for the striking positions.
This is every week.
The man could not pick his nose never mind thebest team!!!
Bye bye Mick
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20 – GRAY wasnt at fault for the stoke goal it was the centre halfs who both got drawn to the one player leaving 2 on 1 on gray
as to watford i felt it was more hennesseys fault, he the keeper who should comamand the box, im sure if murray was in goal he would of come for that ball
gray may not be the best but least he shows he cares and he much like naylor in my eyes – he although got loads stick proved he probably the best left back at club in last 15years
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Your spot on mate, except the bit about Keogh. He is has an exceptional talent, that hasnt quite surfaced this season.
But your reaction to Elliot’s place on the bench mirrored mine exactly. I thought ‘at last, Mick has decided to drop this bloke and give an actual winger the chance.’ But Kyle’s name emerged, his supposed impact player. As an impact player, why did he start?? Then the partnership of SEB and Keogh, the most promising one so far, is interupted, with Keogh on the wing!
Still, we need to focus on tonight, with Kyle on bench, despite that he had a rather decent game!
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How any1 can have anything positive to say or defend kevin kyle is beyond me, we r being turned into a laughing stock. People who defend him should have a look at his career goal scoring record for a striker!!! His criminal record is much more interesting, what a joke!!! Thanx Mick……………
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”apart from Michael Gray, I’d struggle again to pick out anyone who had a decent game.”
He was God awful. I think the above statment proves you don’t know what you are talking about.
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Get Bryan Robson in…..
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Sacked by march the 5th out of the cup and lie 15th in the league writting is on the wall with MM tactics and methods!Taken us as far a he can last year a fluke,7 strikers and not 1 Quality Defender!30 million to spend my butt,wrong choices wrong gaffer!!!
Armen!
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Michael gray played well. are you joking. Ok he runs about but defensivly he is awful. Always out of position and not quick enough to recover anymore.
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Nathan,
You have got this summed up just right. And by the extent of your writings, anyone can see that there are a number of issues that need sorting.
Are you reading this Mr Morgan? If so, in the words of Dick Dastardly “Doooo Something, Mutleeeeeey”. If not, please will someone who knows Mr Morgan please refer him to this blog. NOW!
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great blog and i agree with everything you’ve said.
we have been waiting for the improvement, the winning run, the goals, the workrate each week and nothing happens.
each week we get excuses and told we are going for automatic promotion, top 6 finish. we have no chance we are going for 6th position at best and i doubt we will be anywhere near this.
it has been obvious all season where problems are but mick is so stubborn and so pig headed he will not take any other path to what he is doing. we will end up in bottom half.
the blame lies with mick and his coaching staff.
duff tactics,
duff formations,
playing players out of position,
having favourites,
not buying experience and quality to go with young and hungry.
buying forwards we don’t need when we are cying out for central defence.
loaning out our youngsters and not giving them a run in the team.
micks man management or lack of it.
will eastwood ever get a 1st team start
also keogh is not a wolves no.9
bothroyd, elliot, s.ward should not be at this club
i could go on but i am so sick of paying good money spending all day travelling from scotland and seeing a clueless manager inflict his tactics on players who seem not to have a clue or aren’t bothered, can’t or won’t do it for mick anymore.
has mick lost the dressing room too. are decent players having the attacking instinct coached out of them. who coaches the strikers who coaches the defenders becuase the same problems have persisted from last season.
mick must go in the summer before he gets to spend any more money.
come on the wolves
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goodbye cruel world.
Nathan, you have been (along with wolveswolves and a few other enlightened souls) a beacon of hope for those of us who know the real “state of the nation”
I have made a bit of a nuisance of myself on various boards, spouting out innacuracies and general diatribe – all of which aimed at that idiot mick mccarthy.
Anyhoo. this is the last of my rants. i have decided it is not worth the effort, nor the aggrevation to in any way back this regime, and to this end, UNTIL MICK MCCARTHY IS SACKED i will attend no further a game, nor purchase a single item of merchandise, nor look up, read up, or post on here or any other blog/board or newsclipping.
This will please some of you but most wont give a flying, and it will do my sanity and demeanour the world of good.
LEE OUT.
PS
Freddy, when I win the lottery and start Wolverhampton FC, you will be first on my list of recruits. You are a fantastic player. Go find yourself a club that deserves you.
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Nathan, you’ve hit the nail on the head son. You make a lot more sense than many of the journalists at the E&S, Martin Swain included.
I think Kent Wolf (24) had a good point. You would like to think that McCarthy has just a couple of games left to get it right. He tinkers more than Benitez difference being is that Benitez actually has quality to pick and choose from.
I can see why Sunderland didn’t give him any money to spend, he’s just plain dangerous. Please sir can I have another striker? Arthur Scargil he certainly is.
I’d like someone in before the end of the season to assess and move on. Surely Big Sam has to be in with a shout? Local lad and all that?
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At this rate Wolves will have to make a comeback of Lazarus prroportions!
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If only the club read these blogs and listen to the wise words of our Uber fan Nathan!
This season has been a disaster and lousy to watch. We deserve better.
My early bird is in the bin, although I think I might go and fish it out, just in case.
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McCarthy should go NOW not at the end of the season!!! He has had sufficient time to choose his best 11 and if he does not yet know who they are, then he never will! Appointing a new man asap would allow time to assess the squad, sort out the deadwood, notify Moxey/Morgan of who he wants to bring in and to get things shipshape ready for August. Why we should waste any more time going through the motions I cannot imagine for it’s not as if we are not going to win anything this season and neither are we going to achieve promotion because our push has been 1 step forward and 3 back ever since October – and in no way will we go on a winning run in the next 2+ months!
As for Eastwood, he should go on loan to another club where the manager will play him week in and week out and where he can show Mad Mick that he was wrong not to play him.
Finally Blackpool has been a lucky ground for us in the past but in those days we had winning teams but tonight… a 1-1 draw seems a certainty – but should we lose, what’s the betting McCarthy blames the sea air?
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These blogs are the only sensible opinions that we get.
Mick, listen, this isn’t Sunderland, we haven’t got Niall Quinn and Kevin Phillips as the little ‘n’ large show. Change your strategy, FREDDY MUST START!
He is obviously fed up and looking to leave in the summer, and who can blame him?
God I’m angry.
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If I was as bad as Mick at school they would have me expelled.
Please Mr Morgan can you put someone else as manager?
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Its got to be personal about Freddy and the Fans have noted this it will be McCarthys downfall.His arrogance drives me mad.
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After my crystal ball’s poor showing when all it got correct for Saturday was the result, the number of goals conceded and the time of the first goal, I have thrown it in the ‘cut’ and polished up the alternate.
Blackpool 2 – 0 tonight.
They are a much better team than we give them credit for and are on a good run of results against better teams than us.
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We need a new start at the club and that means both Poxey Moxey and Mick (can me mates play) need to go.
The football this season has been appalling, we are a laughing stock.
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1. Keogh and Ebanks Blake are our best striking partnership. 2. Kyle has been signed as an impact player to bring on if we need to change things in the last 15 minutes.
These are not my views these are quotes from Mick McCarthy. So why did Kyle start on Saturday? Do we need any more evidence to say the guy doesn’t know what he is doing.
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here we go same old moany gits on about mick.mick got ireland 2 the world cup wit a terrible squad wat did sam allydice do nothing.its funny the fact u wer singing super mick only a few months ago and now hes the most useless man in football.the only thing usless here is you lot.no wonder we av the most moany fans in england
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I agree with Mistyk Dipstyk, I can see us slipping up tonight against a really underrated Blackpool side.
And you just know that Dickov will score the opener.. worth a fiver bet that one!
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Brereton; my unreserved apologies to you, sir, for my totally erroneous ( albeit understandable) misconception that you could be Kermit.
It is abundantly clear from your blog 21 you are, in fact, Jez Moxey.
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Some good points, but “mooted” is the word you were after for the likely successors, or did you mean we were keeping quiet about the likely successors?
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A lot of good points raised here.
I think Keogh has potential but his finishing is poor.
We really miss kightly. I think with him and Jarvis on the flanks we would create a lot of chances. The only natural goal scorers I can see are Eastwood and S Blake. Kyle will only be effective if our corners,free kicks are good for the flick ons and the delivery have been poor. I can see SBlake playing off him as he is the only striker we have with pace and power.
One more point assuming as MM says that we do put a run together and by chance get promoted, who thinks that Elliot, kyle, Boothroyd will be good enough? MM seens to prefer workrate over quality and this only gets you so far. just look at derby. He’s crazy if he lets Eastwood go and I think this could spell the end of his reign.
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21. Breretonwolf
I do agree with some of the things you say, and changing managers is obviously not a great plan. However there are some managers that you should stick with and some that you just know haven’t a chance.
Graham Taylor shouldn’t have been sacked and Dave Jones was very badly treated. It wasn’t the boo boys that did for Jones, it was a falling out with the man at the top that did for him!
You can’t however disagree that Graham Turner was given far too long, McGee was a chancer and got found out, Lee was just useless and Hoddle never wanted to be at Wolves and it showed.
You can also see that Eastwood is completely over rated as I read in another post, so I just don’t understand why you keep wanting McCarthy to stay?
Is it just because you hate the ‘change mentality’ or the ‘boo-boy’ culture. Is it that you genuinely see something in McCarthy?
If any manager was going to be given more time it should have been Dave Jones, the only manager to succeed since Turner but he was rapidly got rid of. So why McCarthy, could it be that the club are in the comfort zone and he is the man to keep us there?
Be honest, you know he is second rate don’t you?
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Here is a list of dead wood that I hope gets moved on in the summer:
Moxey
McCarthy
Connor
Breen
Craddock
Grey (Just because of age)
Collins
Keogh
S. Ward
D. Ward
Potter
Elliot
Eastwood
Gibbson
Kyle
Olofinjana
Stack
There, I feel better now!
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it doesnt take a huge amount of intelliegnce does it, Stokes team all average around 6ft 2 keogh isnt very good i the air and ebanks blake is about 4ft, so it was quite a clever decisio by mcCarthy as most of you would have agreed if we wernt having a bad season.
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55 is this you rne wlook team then,
Hennessey
Kightly
Kightly
Kightly
Foley
Jarvis
Henry
Edwards
Kightly
Kightly
ebanks Blake
the 1s dead wood to clear is clearly some of these stupid fans/
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52. Ped Antic said: Feb 12th, 2008 at 1:27 pm Some good points, but “mooted” is the word you were after for the likely successors, or did you mean we were keeping quiet about the likely successors?
You sir need to get out and meet some girls. Come on now, the one’s on the internet don’t really count.
Contribute to the discussion, you moron.
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To Breretonwolf
While some supporters want to sack a manager after a couple of defeats and others, like yourself, will support a Wolves manager, no matter what happens, until he has left the club, I think that most fans can see the benefits in sticking by a manager who is having bad patch in the hope that he will get it right long-term. The question is whether you are backing the right manager or not. Mick’s problem is that, having started the season with a lot of good will he has turned it round so that many fans think he is not the right man to back. If, instead of saying we were aiming for automatic promotion he had said something to the effect that he was still building and don’t expect too much this year, and he had not made so many baffling signings and selection decisions, he might have retained much more support.
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56 & 57 Clemo Wolf
Sorry but I don’t understand what you are trying to say.
Is it that you would like to see McCarthy using an effective long ball plan, or were you just admiring the hight of the Stoke team?
I like the look of your team, however I think I would rather have another Kightly in midfield and leave Henry on the bench!
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Abdonwolf & fenriswolf, Good points in both. I believe we have lost too many managers to negative fans in the past. Also, I believe that, given patience, Mick McCarthy will get us to the Prem. His signings have not been that bad. I questioned Kyle being brought in, but I actually agreed with starting him against Stoke. A big team needs a big striker somewhere in the mix. Bothroyd or Kyle? JB goes down if a midget leans on him, so Stoke would have had a field day with him. Kyle laid on both of our goals, and I believe he had a good game over all. I still believe we will go up. (not this season, but next, which is what MM asked for.)
Sue D’Nimm- Yawn. Same old same old. Sarcasm is an art form. (See posting 5) YOU ain’t got it. You are just a sad individual who survives just to knock anything that you choose to. (you usually like to make sure you are in “the majority” first though.) I would not want to “live” a “life” like that. I will always be true to my club and it’s staff. You must be a joy to be around at parties. (If you ever get invited to any.)
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58 – Cpt Wolves
But the girls on the internet are always pleased to see you and they never give you a hard time when you still haven’t painted the living room celling!
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Breretonwolf
Why does a response from you always read like receiving a school report?
“Some good work boy, but could try harder”
You don’t have to write a three paragraph response!
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63-Abdonwolf, Naughty boy!! It’s only two paragraphs. (In fact only one paragraph for you. The other was for my good friend, Sue D’Nimm.) Go immediately to the bottom of the class. (Only kidding.)
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Interesting to read your blog after reading the reports about Freddies ultimatum to ‘play me or I’m off’. I was all for him at the start of the season but since then I’ve seen nothing to suggest he’s anything better than mediocre. If he wawnts a move let him go.
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Breretonwolf I’ve read your essay and I admire your loyalty but surely there is a line you must not cross? Yes Jones was sacked but that wasn’t down to the boo boys it was down to him standing up to Moxey and losing the argument very badly, Taylor maybe should have had more time but our other appointments should never have been made. Yes, McCarthy did wonders last season but he’s been found out much the same way as Mcghee was. His tactics are dubious, his team selections baffling, his pr skills are non existent and you have to admit that his January transfer dealings could have been better. He had the chance to get in cover for Breen and Craddock but spurned the chance in favour of yet more strikers….now can you see why some fans are disillusioned and not prepared to trust him with our beloved club long term?
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58 Cpt Wolves said: “Contribute to the discussion, you moron”.
Well, as a small contribution to the discuusion I said I thought that he had made some good points in the blog. I tried to point out an error with a little bit of humour (but apparently failed), for example with the name I used. I didn’t expect personal abuse and would question exactly what your post contributed to the discussion.
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CRAP’ SACK MM NO IDEAS LEFT HIS PATHETIC CHOICE OF PLAYERS IS AWFUL, I COULD PICK A TEAM FROM NONE LEAGUE FOOTBALL TO CHALLENGE FOR PROMOTION’ IN THIS MICKY MOUSE LEAGUE. EVERY WOLVES FAN KNOWS WE NEEDED A REAL GOOD FEW DEFENDERS BEFORE THE SEASON KICKED OFF, WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP WE HAVE HAD TO SUFFER.ON YOUR BIKE MICKY MOUSE AND DON’T LOOK BACK.
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Well obviously no one here on this site is a real Wolves Fan, and I can tell you its just as well you cant use bad language on this site, or else I would would call you all a lot of sucking bankers. Do you so called fans realise, where the main problem lies, out of 6 to 9 potential strickers, nothing is falling into to place for any of them, I wonder why! Has any one stricker done any better than the other, NO, so why so quick to critisise them all,do you think they are happy with the the service they get, do you think when putting your team up 2-1 that you should take all the slack for losing 4-2, if a stricker gives you the lead then at least your midfield and defenders should be to blame if you loose it. Now do you honestly believe all you hear, as in the Blackpool comentary that a stricker missed a sitter, yet it shows a defender palmed it over the net. Grow up lads,get over it and get behind them, otherwise it just becomes a vendetta against players. There are some really good players in this team, and a lot of “fan clubs” come on here purly to ridicule other players,
and if you are a true wolves fan, you will not do that.
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Lulu (69)
What in the hell is a stricker?
Very difficult to understand what you are on about but you can’t defend a team that just isn’t performing. Striker? Thats it. A striker!
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Nathan Lloyd you talk so much rubbish.
Freddy is lazy, selfish & has no work ethic at all.
Are you blind ?
He is even more lazier than Bothroyd and has a worse goal to game ratio to that oh so awful Stephen Elliott.
At least Kyle gives it a go and will work hard un like Mr Eastwood.
You know nothing about football, you fickle “dingle”
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stick to singing lulu you fool
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ok fair enough everyones got their own opinions and a right to have their say when they think wolves arent up to scratch but for gods sake what can you hope to achieve by booing the lads off the pitch and calling them for everything it makes my blood boil. so we aint getting the results we want but if your REAL FANS then i think you should show your support whatevers going on. it dont help matters when the fans are on the players backs it wouldnt make me play any better if i was in their position. we should encourage them not slag them off so lets just get off their backs and get behind them if we put as much effort in to cheering them on as we do moaning about them we would be in the premier by now.
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Seems all you lot are either at home on your arses or at work using the office computer whinging -get back to work or better still get a job then you might have something in your lives. WWFC is my love but it aint the love of my life! If we go up/down inside out what ever, you’ll all still be there at 3pm saturday but obviously not giving your support. Get over it and lets just support who ever is in the hot seat, you never know what might happen if good vibes were coming from the stands instead of the constant moaning, i’ve never seen nothing like it and i’m apalled. Don’t matter what MM does now he’s been labelled and you lot won’t let it go.
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Brereton – your arguments as to why MM played Kyle against Stoke are as flawed as his were. Stoke are a big physical side and by playing Kyle we played to their strengths. If we had played Keogh or Eastwood instead of Kyle we would have played a quicker game on the ground and Stoke would not have coped.
I know you like your stats to try to argue against Eastwood being in the team so why don’t you look up Kyle’s goalscoring record. He scores less than one goal every 10 games and it is incredible that he is still earning a living from being a striker. What a mug MM is for signing him.
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For God’s sake Wolves fans, get a grip!! Why is Eastwood a hero all of a sudden? There is no evidence that he is a ‘great player’ ‘proven goalscorer’ or a ‘team man’. There is evidence that MM is a good manager at this level, we should let him get on with it and stop the shameful booing of the manager and ANY player in a gold shirt during a match. Does anyone think that the abuse dished out to Bothroyd and Elliot in particular during a match actually helps?. As a Wolves fan of 40 years I’m beginning to wonder if us fans have to share responsibility for what happens on the pitch. We seem to take a dislike to certain players then slaughter them for ever and it stinks. Last year we sang McCarthy’s name at six nil down, now the abuse starts with the first mistake of the match. And we wonder why the players appear nervous???
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we are wolves!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Its gone pearshaped, we can all see that,one of the main reasons I think,is the first team coach.Ever since Taf packed it in and the reserve team coach was promoted its fell apart.Come on Mick, before its to late,get a good first team coach in, we have got good players but dont seem to have good game plans
Up the wolves. ecker H.
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