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Illness forced Keogh to go off
Wednesday 2nd January 2008, 1:27PM GMT.
Wolves today went to the unusual lengths of issuing an explanation for Andy Keogh’s substitution which so enraged the Molineux fans.
Keogh was taken off in the 65th minute to be replaced by Stephen Elliott, a move which brought boos from all sides of the ground and choruses of “you don’t know what you’re doing” aimed at manager Mick McCarthy.
The protests continued today with a flood of e-mails to the club from disgruntled fans which prompted a full explanation from the Wolves boss about the decision.
McCarthy explained that Keogh is still suffering from a chest infection which also forced him to withdraw the Irish international early in the game against Norwich.
McCarthy said: “After about ten minutes into the second half Andy couldn’t run. He was absolutely exhausted and that’s why I took him off. It was the same on Saturday. He’d pushed his body to the limits.
“He was coughing and spluttering during the break and after about five minutes into the re-start I saw that he was starting to struggle.”
The opening hours of the transfer window saw Wolves linked to a Championship free-for-all aimed at recruiting Blackpool winger Wes Hoolahan. Watford, Sheffield United and Leicester have also been watching the former non-League winger.
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A good left sided midfield player
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Well I didn’t know this but it comes to something when out of the two strikers on the pitch (bothroyd,Keogh) the best one (performance) has got Flu and can barely braeth. Bothroyd you really are ****
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Give the lad a rest on Saturday.
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It was frustrating that he was taken off, and lazy, useless Bothroyd stayed on. Why did MM bring Elliot on instead of Freddy aswell?
Oh well it seems players these days no matter what age. Are always susceptible to injury. Players like Keogh and Kightly should run through a brick wall, instead of faining injury every week.
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poor excuse by MM who now realises what a mistake he made and he is now trying to cover his behind – we are not fooled MM
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This is just another bad explanation from McCarthy.
“McCarthy said: “After about ten minutes into the second half Andy couldn’t run. He was absolutely exhausted and that’s why I took him off. It was the same on Saturday. He’d pushed his body to the limits.”
and why did it take about ten more minutes to bring on a sub? (Elliott was brought on at 65 minutes)
If you already knew he wasn´t fit for 90 minutes a sub should be warmed up and ready to come on at the same moment as Keogh got exhausted..
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Hopefully this post will get through. i have tried to post but none get put up. i am now that fed up with our performances i dont even know what to say. Why was AK playing if he was not fit.(favourites) can anyone name a good performance apart from norwich at home, charlton at home, cardiff away and wba away? win lose or draw we have not been performing well all season.
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And.. why not bring on Eastwood for Keogh and Elliott for Henry? (Elliott did well against Burnley as right winger). Why not try to win the game?..
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oh come on beobridge wolf yeah we wasnt happy with the change but if the bloke couldnt run and was ill thats a good enough reason to take him off
yeah he shud of put freddy on instead of elliot
but all that above is a good enough reason to take someone off
rest him saturday and i would like to see mark davies in the team i no a friend of his and she says he was brilliant in the reserves…give him a shot
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Stephen Elliot is not of the calibre expected at Sunderland, Man City or for that matter Wolves. Not to be too impersonnel I watched him at Leicester – he moved around a lot. Then him got himself infront of goal – two centre halves behind him, and a keeper to beat. He’s in the D just outrside the area. Guess what he did ? He pushed the ball too far with his next touch – stubbed his shot, their keeper picked it up like it was a back pass – and then he fell over.
I have no idea what MM was thinking when he signed this lad.
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what is going on – i can support moxey – he is trying to run wolves as a business so we don’t end up like leeds / luton etc
but MM i really do think he’s lost the plot. is he being just b***dy minded cause the fans are after him. we really do need a midfielder that can create so the forwards we have get some opportunity to score. we also need a hooligan in midfield to frighten the opposition – ?? robby savage type. we have left sided defenders are they that bad or do we need to keep playing 2nd rate central defenders.MM get a grip before the season is totally lost
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5.
I rarely make this blunt a comment.
But simply, you’re an idiot.
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Surely there must be a prescription drug to cure his “Bad Chest” which is not on the banned substance lists.
On the subject of Blackpool winger Wes Hoolahan, if he’s that good, get him, don’t lose him like Howard!
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Bentley Wolf mentioned Savage.The only Savage MM is likely to sign is Lily…aka Paul O’Grady because he’s got an Irish name!
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The vicious circle that we thought we had shaken off last season is now back in force – the team go through a rough spell, the fans get on the players’ backs, the players retreat into their shells and are afraid to try anything in case it goes wrong resulting in even more stick from the fans. Opposition managers tell their teams to frustrate our players because they know that after a while the fans will start having a go at the team – I don’t know why anyone could ever think that this is going to help the players. It is such a counter-productive waste of time booing the players (eg Elliot) or the manager, and will only self-perpetuate the longer it goes on. Sometimes I am almost ashamed to call myself a Wolves fan because I worry about getting tarred with the same brush as some of the rest of us – most people in football know about our reputation for poor support at home and they use this in their own favour… we have to stick with the players and the manager through this tricky period, as if we don’t, we will find it very difficult to come out the other side. Have a little foresight, and as that chubby keyboard player G Barlow sang, ‘have a little patience’!!
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WE NEED SOME MATCH WINNERS!!
WE NEED JOE LEDLEY!!
WE NEED A STRONG REPLACEMENT FOR KIGHTLY FOR WHEN HE IS INJURED!!
WE NEED A NEW STRONG STRIKER!!
WE NEED OUR STRIKERS IN THE BOX!!
WE NEED …………!!!
WE DON’T NEED A NEW MANAGER – BEEN THERE DONE THAT!!
WE NEED TO PLAY WITH A GOOD TEMPO!!
WE DESPERATLY NEED LEADERS & GOAL SCORERS.
WE DON’T NEED MUCH DO WE????!!
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WE NEED A NEW MANAGER!!
Bournemouth this one’s shown he cant cut it.
Also, its time to get tough with the underperformers on the pitch. Shape up or Ship out.
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Stop knocking Bothroyd. If you watch closely you will see that he plays more intelligent passes and tries to be more creative than more or less anyone else in the team at the moment. It doesn’t always work – but at least he tries – and it would work more often if the people on the end of the passes were able to do more with them, which is why he needs an extended run with Freddie partnering him up front and Keogh tucked in just behind.
The person I don’t think we should be peresevering with is Darren Gibson. His contribution is nothing special. Give our own players a go – Potter deserves another chance, or try some of those who haven’t had a game yet such as Davies.
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14 Mary Christmas
Funniest comment of the day so far….apart from one of Moxey,slateing the fans!
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Will people make their minds up. People unjustifiabely criticised Eliiot at the start of the season, then he demonstrated that he is a decent player, when fit (although like all our strikers, he has struggled scoring) and people started to recognise this and show support. Then he missed what was an absolute sitter and people are on his back again. I think Elliot has shown some decent potential, whether you rate him or not he looks no worse than the others and whilst it could seem MM does have favourites, it also seems that many fans have decided to not like any Irish or ex Sunderland players just to take the opposite opinion and are unfair on many of the lads. Support MM and the team and stop being so fickle.
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19.
You’re easily amused. If I was to do stand-up i’d want you in the crowd.
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15
I don’t know where you are coming from!!!
You refer to last season – Wolves fans gave the team and the manager complete backing EVERY game – even southampton because they could see endevour, flair, work rate and passion.
Wolves fans are fickle but have passion for their team – And wear their hearts on their sleeves – If you are almost ashamed to be part of that then I suggest you support another team
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Why play someone who is suffering from a chest infection?
Pure madness.
He cant give 100% if he’s that ill.
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This tells me that a 60% fit player is better than a 100% player ie all the players who can not get a game
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What a bunch of Muppets the reason that MM got booed was putting on Elliot rather than Freddie poor decision on MMs part
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Mr Moxley you want to remember who pays your wages,if you dont like what the fans say do something about it,how about banning all fans from the ground you know it makes sense.
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ELLIOT is still highly regarded as a great player by sunderland fans and said his only problem was his injuries, my mate who is a sunderland sth and knows football inside out said he would rather have a fit elliot over chopra and murphey who they currently have
what im saying is elliot is good player but its a case of wolves buying these players after bad injuries and we will never get the best out of him i doubt
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if mm doesnt play freddy im gonna be sick he is a GREAT PLAYER and 4 pete sake BOTHROYD IS TOTALY PANTS AND FREDDY AINT!!
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27 please give me a pint of what your mates on
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if that was the case then why didnt mick do it at half time but there again wolves never really had any chances on goal poor display poor excuses
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how must freddie eastwood feel if andy keogh with a chest infection say at 60% fitness is picked ahead of him?
if this is the situation at the end of the season eastwood will leave wolves and then we can go and buy an ex sunderland or irish player or both who runs around a lot, tracks back and can’t hit a barn door from anywhere.
midfielder wes hoolahan from blackpool why not at the right price i saw him a few times at livingston and he was class above the others. he has done well at blackpool and he is irish.
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I’d give Morgan his tenner back, if I also had the financial clout to build what the fans are crying out for.A successful team!
To build a successful team, you’d have to start with the manager.Sorry Mick, you just don’t cut it with me.Paul Ince was relatively untried, but has done wonders at Macclesfield & MK Dons.
We definatly need a ball winning midfielder, someone in the Ince/Rae mould.Robbie Savage would be a good short term solution.Kev Philips alongside Freddie would worry one or two defences.Hypia & Riise might come cheaply, lets face it, they are no spring chickens.To get this current squad to the heights of the Premiership would not be an impossible task, even at this stage.
So, Mr Morgan, put your money where your mouth is or go! Simple as that.
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hi wolvffe if you put eastwood BOTHROYD and elliot together you still would not get a half striker total pants
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more excuses
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21 – totally agree. i think 14 could be happy baggie in disguise, that was as lame as one of his “jokes”
i’ve been away for few weeks, has happy baggie finally got a job? cos there seems to be a lack of comments from the all time no1 albion idiot.
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Why start him them if you knew he had a chest infection???
Sounds like a cover up story to me.
Face it mm you just can’t do the job.
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Problems up-front?
Freddy, Bothroyd, etc..?
You’re all missing the point. Without great playmakers forwards will never deliver their full potential.
MM is a great manager. He will bring in the playmakers and boster the heart of the team so that the pack will kill more effectively.
Our forwards are good enough for the Championship. But we do need wholesale change in the centre. If and when we get promoted, we would have to replace most of the forwards anyway – so there is no point in doing this twice within 6 months.
GW.
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was ‘wulf’ at the same match, Jay Bothroyd is clearly a class player and now puts in the effort for which he was criticised last year. In terms of skill,the ability to work the ball and his general presence on the pitch he is worth his place every time.Whilst I am on,
.a.why does Freddie Eastwood enjoy such a rapport with the fans when he has done nothing.
.b. Keogh has often been a real lightweight, lacking judgement, unable to keep hold of the ball and being easily hustled off it. For 20 minutes on saturday he looked great, given that he isn’t fit then his fading after that period might be understandable. Was his early display an indicator of his improvement ?? I hope so then at least he will live up to the support that a vociferous part of the crown offers him.
.c. Some members of Saturdays crowd, plus some whingeing bloggers on previous occasions, criticise Michael Gray – do they actually watch matches ??
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If he is so ILL why was he shopping his little heart out in BIRMINGHAMS BULLRING TODAY THEN!!!??
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Re 22 (Wolves4eva) – interesting that you use the word ‘support’.. I am backing my team through thick and thin, like all proper supporters should. I will follow my club to the grave. Because of this, I will never align myself with the boo-boys or the quick-fix merchants, and I am always prepared to give the manager time and space to prove themselves until it is obvious that they can go on no longer. I thought we sacked Graham Taylor too early, I thought we sacked Dave Jones too early, and considering Mick McCarthy is the best manager we have had at the club since Turner I am happy to be in the minority who advocate the benefits of him staying until at least the end of 07/08. Getting rid of him now will just set us back to where we were 18 months ago / 3 years ago / etc etc etc. It just goes to show that whilst we may follow the same team, we can all have very different opinions on how we see things.
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play freddy saturday let him bang in a couple get his confidence back.wes houlahan no better than john mcindo
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Guys and Dolls the only problem with any of our sttrikers is that they having to create their own chances, we do not seem to be able to create from midfield. Elliot has the pedigree as does Eastwood, Bothroyd is our best player when it comes to any vision and the ability to hold the ball up, maybe he is a little lazy but he needs the midfield to help him as well.
Onwards and Upwards
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The only fan talking any sense on this website as far as I can see is Greg Cooper.(15) I am ashamed to be a Wolves fan at the moment with all the criticism aimed at Mick! From Mick’s point of view the worst thing he could have done was taken us to the play offs last season. If he had just taken us to a mid table position we would have said he had done a great job and our 10th position so far this year would see us steady improvement. Instead Mick performed miracles getting us into the play offs and now our expectations have been raised. We are going through a bad spell at the moment and we are playing unattractive scappy football. The team are clearly lacking confidence. But with several astute January signings and with Michal Kightley also set to return I think the tide will turn and we will go back to winning games. We will get at least a play off position this season. The division is poor and I am confident we will come good. I just wish my fellow supporters would have the same patience. Criticise at the end of the season if we haven’t improved on last season. Remember its a sprint not a marathon. Up the Wolves!
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why pick a player who is not fit!! we have a squad or so i am led to believe,he mm has definetly lost the plot and that moxey well i thought mr morgan might have had something to say but as usual with wolves its the moxey man doing all the talking once again,you do not see this happening at other clubs.
rgds tpd
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No27 Make mine a double of what your mate Stevie Wonders on, tell him to put a word in with RK and we will gladly have Chopra for Elliot!
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30 – there is just no need for me to keep telling you how useless you are these days – you all do it for me !
Nice to know you missed me though – I will try to think of new ways to wind you up in 08.
MM in, MM in, MM in !!!
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to the two blokes sat behind me yesterday – don’t you feel like idiots, booing and slagging off MM when Keogh went off – the kid was sick!!
Oh, and for the the record, EASTWOOD IS RUBBISH, STOP SINGING HIS NAME YOU MUPPETS!!!
UP THE WOLVES!!!
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Well said realistwolves (12) and massive applause to that man Greg Cooper! You have firmly hit the nail on the head!!!
Greg, I have just posted very similar comments on the Moxey story! Clearly i’m not the only Wolves fan out there that is begging for a bit of patience and hoping that the ‘Boo Boys’ will stay at home!
My faith in humanity and True Wolves fans has been restored!
Up the Wolves, my Wolves!
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if mick just thinks that it was just the keogh descision that got us raged then he must be more stupid than i thought he was.This season so far has been the most boring,mind numbing rubbish ever! There has been no footbal,no style,no creativity,hardly any goals. Just average mick mccarthy players putting shifts in,around the pitch.If he wants players to put shifts in, send them over to asda. oh sorry,the likes of Breen,Collins,D ward,henry,and steven ward would struggle to get into the asda football team!
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if mick mccarthy really thinks that it was the keogh decision that got the fans raged then he must be more stupid than i thought he was. How much more of this Mind numbing football, do we have to watch? so far this season we,ve seen no style,no creativity,no quality,thats why we,ve seen hardly any goals! all hes interested in, is players putting shifts in! Well supermick send the likes of Breen,Collins,D ward,henry,seyi off and steven ward to asda,so they can put a shift in.Oh sorry, they would all struggle to get into the asda football team,unless you were in charge!
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He was knackered after 10 mins? Then why run him into the ground for another 10?
Why start him in the 2nd half or at all if he is still ill?
More signs of bad management
What did Bothroyd do all game?
Same as all season except against Charlton and Wednesday when both he and Freddie scored
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everyone needs to leave elliot alone. he is our top scorer.
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I hate to say it but we need a new manager the type of football (if you can call it that) that mick is playing is soo negative, i do honestly think that we are as bad as when hoddle was in charge.
having said that we need to get behind the players not boo them and make them scared to try anything incase it doesnt work.
(oh and i do NOT see what gibson brings to the team, do not rate him)
Up the wolves (eventually).
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My only criticsm is why play keogh if he had the flu, when we have eastwood,elliot on the bench fully fit.
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SO WHY PLAY HIM IF HES ILL YOU MUPPET WHEN FREDDIES ON THE BENCH CAN ANYONE SEE THE LOGIC IN THAT ?
AMOEBI AND EARNSHAW JOINING ON LOAN DEALS FOR REST OF THE SEASON
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SO WHY DID HE PLAY ?
WHAT A JOKE MM IS
AMEOBI AND EARNSHAW JOINING ON LOAN FOR REST OF THE SEASON ?
WATCH THIS SPACE.
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52 Brad:
Billy Elliot would be a better bet to top the goal scoring charts!
Karl Henry is playing like the bumbling Benny out of Crossroads…or is he related to Lenny?
The nucleus of the team is very good, just needs a bit of fine tuning + the adition of a couple of players that could turn this good side into a great one!
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I really cannnot understand our fickle fans.
We dont not need new strikers. The reason why they dont score is because instead of being in the box where they should be and want to be, they are out on the wings (bothroyd) running into corners (keogh, elliot) and coming off the bench with ten miuntes to go to make no impact on the game (freddy).
If we have creative players, i.e kightly when avalible, jarvis on the right or left, davies in centre mid, rosa (when fit), gobern, jones (get him back) we have endless creative options. but Mick wont give em a chance and instead plays (for reasons i dont know) HENRY , yes HENRY wide right or gibson.. when clearly thats not the way forward.
As for the defecne, best in the league. Foley is superb, one of the more consistant this season, ward and craddok have a good partnership, and gray at left back is energetic and can actually use his left foot. If not him the maybe mulgrew has a chance, or little at least.And as much as i dont want to slate my teams players, Breen would get in the team for me, and collins is mark clyde long lost twin.
A Centre back, possibly left back , and if he wont give the others a go, a winger or att midfielder. COME ON !!!
LETS GET BEHIND EM, FOR A GOOD WIN ON SATURDAY!!
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In a week when a player has died, leaving a wife and 4 young children, how dare anyone believe that players are feigning injury (and yes, this is the correct spelling). How dare anyone say that McCarthy is using ‘illness’ as an excuse for substituting a player.
How can anyone who calls himself a ‘fan’ think that booing the team can in any way help the team to do better. Just remember that MM took a national team of hugely limited resources to a World Cup Finals Tournament, where they gave as good as they got. He could not have done that without loyalty from his players and backroom staff. Okay Keane go on his case. And yes, Keane got Sunderland promoted last year by virtue of character. But this season is proving to be different for him and will be a test of how good a manager he might become in the future.
It needs time and SUPPORT to build properly. Stop complaining!
Perhaps you could put some energy into sending condolences to a young family in Motherwell and maybe messages of support to a manager, Mark McGhee, as he attempts to pull a club and community back together.
Happy New Year!
David
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shouldn’t of played him if he was ill
but as i live in birmingham and went shopping with the wife y-day i saw keogh up there aswell and he looked as healthy as can be
im keeping the faith play freddy and m davies on saturday
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To all the moaners that just goes to show you the determination of some of the players. Could any of you moaners run around a pitch if you were fit let alone have a chest infection I doubt it. Some of you would have gone to bed and had time of work and not give it a second thought. For goodness sake let MM do his job his way he does not come to your place of work and tell you how to do yours. I know the football is not good at the moment but I keep saying this we need to get behind the lads and lift them,
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I was at the game on Saturday and thought both bothroyd and henry were shocking.Bothroyd don’t deserve to wear the wolves shirt, he don’t even look bothered half the time.I don’t understand why McCarthy didn’t play jarvis instead of Henry, he was useless on the right.Even though Keogh weren’t fit he still looked our best threat on goal, we’ve gotta get some strikers in during January, wouldn’t mind seeing Ameobi down here from newcastle, could do with some height in the box.
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The author of this article should realise that Wes Hoolahan is not ex-non league. He is actually Irish and with his former club Shelbourne won three leagues and also played in their Champions League run in 2004 which saw them just miss out on the group stages with defeat to Deportivo La Coruna. Shels drew the first leg 0-0 and Wes was man of the match. Would be a fine, fine addition
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jan rhodes
couldn’t agree more
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Eastwood gets rapport with the fans as they have seen what he can do, rememebr the beginning of the season.
5 goals in 4 games(1 was for wales) then Mick stops playing him until he gets is attitude sorted, great managerial skills.
The Wolves fans see a 1.5 million pound player sitting on the bench week in and week out. We feel sorry for his talent being wasted and we are frustrated as we know what he could do if he has played correctly, ie not having to defend our 18 yard line.
You can say that about bothroyd why was he in our own goal area when the opposition were taking corner’s etc, No wonder we never score goals at the other end.
But we have to get behind the team. We need to be Wolves 12 man on the pitch. Roar the boys on and if you ain’t happy after the match then protest outside the stadium, so Morgan and Moxey and McCarthy know what you think of them.
Don’t berate the players, they are playing to MM’s Tune.
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Why did McCarthy play Keogh at all if he was ill. Surely everybody knows that you should not do any physical activity like football when yo are full of cold.
Let’s paly a fit player from the beginning instead. But MM has his favourites and he has his expensive seat warmer as well, who for 1.5 mill does that job a treat.
I think the booing at the game is wrong but i think the reason he came off for is poor, he should not have played in the first place.
It’s another reason given to the fan’s to question MM’s ability to manage the team.
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keoh should not be playing today he was not fit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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