it makes your think how much was they on a year if they could take a 11 grand pay cut.

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Carnage?
Are people in England following the Americans trend for overstatement?

Get a grip people.
It might be heartbreaking etc. but I hardly think “carnage” is the best word to use.

Poor English standards are sadly rife everywhere these days.

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£11,000 cut….. how much money are they getting paid !
No wonder they went home crying, I can’t see their wages being cut by half so some of them must be on well over £22,000.
Maybe they should put this money back into the community….. OK … Sorry…. I know that I’m being silly, I cannot see them doing that but it would be nice.

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At least when I had to work in Wolverhampton I got extra pay.

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Mick a lot of council workers do do jobs in the real world!!!! cleaning up S**t off the streets, dealing with people who really need help – via social services, housing homeless people, bin men etc. Council workers ARE a public service – what is it that you do then MICK??

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The only people to come out of the whole process better off are the Councils higher managers. Amazingly, senior management, directors, teachers and councillors were all excluded from the process. The pay model chosen was also voted for by the Councillors,who also vote on their own pay increases.

The figures banded about by the Council regarding the number of people loosing out and gaining are completely false. Far more are loosing out than people know about and councillor Lawrence is taking a very gung ho stance on this (i.e. people have three years to adjust their lives). I suppose though it is very easy when your not affected.

The people who have lost out the most are those already on the lowest wages, as the payscales go up, the losses go down until eventually, those paid high enough already actually get more.

Shame on WCC for the shambolic treatment of its staff!

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i haave worked for the council for 4 years now, i am being expected to take a pay cut that will see my annual salary drop by 1/3rd. and no i am not someone earning thousands, in fact quite the opposite. no i dont like it, and yes if this proposal goes ahead then i will be looking for a different job as will most of my colleagues.

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Jo – pen pushing dictators – you obviously know nothing about the different services the council have to offer – we are not all pen pushing dictators!!!!! – unless you are referring to the migher management!! lol! maybe you should try an do an honest days living – or at least get a job in the council for a while!!! – NO DONT THINK SO!!

Anywhooo…….It is bad how the lower paid staff have been treated.

LS parking is only provided for those who need to use a car for their work (and lazy senior managers!). The council couldnt possibly provide spaces for up to 2500 staff?!!! – I agree witht he rest of your sentiments though,. Most people who have never worked for the council always have something bad to say bout us “we have a cushy number” “we get paid loads for doing nothing” “pen pushers” etc. These are shallow minded, ignorant individuals.

Most council workers go through a lot of stress and workd really hard for NO OVERTIME, NO HONORARIUM, NO PERKS, NO BONUSES AND NO THANKS!!

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REALLY SORRY EVERYONE… I WAS refering to the people who made this decision. The last thing I wanted to do was offend the people i have: the ones who actually DO something. Honestly.

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I think some folk are missing the point – put yourself in the place of these people who are having pay cuts. If you apply for, and are lucky enough to be given, a permanent job, at an agreed wage, you budget your life to that wage -however large or small that wage is. If you are then, some years down the line told that you will be having thousands shaved off that wage, it will affect all aspects of your life. I work with people who will not now be able to pay their rent or their mortgages because of their pay cuts. These people have children to care for. Just what are they supposed to do? Oh, I know – go into B&B accommodation until the council can rehouse them!

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Please, take note of the fact that that chief officers do not suffer single status but the Local Government office siad the following:
From the LGA website
Chief officers’ pay update – November 2007
Local authority employers have today (5 November) reached an agreement with local authority chief officers for a 2.475% pay settlement with effect from 1 April 2007.
That element of the agreement that exceeds 2% is in recognition of local government consistently producing the most substantial efficiency gains within the public … this is largely attributable to the valuable efforts of the workforce.

Clearly these people callously work us to get there pay rises and when they see we can do no more they cruelly cut our pay.

My first twenty years work were in the private sector so don’t tell me that its so much tougher there.

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I am an employee of WCC, and being in the un-enviable postion of not being evaluated yet (I have been given a default grading because they didn’t have time to do my evaluation!), I have been able to watch what my fellow council employees have been going through, and I can see all arguments for and against Single Status. Yes, Equal Pay for Equal Work is a fantastic idea – but from where I’m sitting it only seems to have brought about even more inequality, with the pay gap between the Chief Officers (who have already undergone their re-grading) and us lowly ‘Administrative Assistants’ (because it now appears that is what we are all to be called after Job Evaluation, regardless of what we do) getting larger.
Fantastic – those staff members who really were low paid, Cleaners and Kitchen Assistants, have received a pay increase, and about time too, although I’m not sure that 20p an hour is anything to shout about.
Those of us who should be grateful that we have remained on the same salary lose out – because in most cases, the scale point we are on has been moved to the maximum, hence, no more increments.
Those of us who have lost money, not only have to suffer no cost of living or incremental rises for three years, but at the end of those three years we find that we cannot move any higher up the scale because, as with the people whose salaries have stayed the same, we have been placed at the top of the scale; no more increments.
There are members of staff that have yet to recieve their letters informing them of their outcome – TEN DAYS after the deadline!
There are members of staff whom despite doing completely different roles to each other have been given exactly the same values in the “13 Factors”. Was anyone paying attention when this data was being fed onto the Gauge software.
We have been consistently fobbed off, hoodwinked, and blindsighted by our employer. Nobody knows the truth, rumour and speculation are rife.
So yes, Single Status is a good thing; good for demolishing morale, good for demoralising the workforce, good for the bailiffs, good for the Chief Exec’s bonus, and good for nothing.

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I work at a school. Kitchen supervisors have now received their letters re JE. They are now on a GR7 point 19 which is higher than three quaters of the now called Administators level 3. They have also received letters today re compensation £12000. Which the council have said they will not have to pay TAX or NI and the council will be paying this. Is this legal? If so I would like my tax paid for me for the next six years please.

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