Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Brunt appeals to angry Baggies
Albion winger Chris Brunt has appealed to angry fans to stick with the team for the vital final weeks of the Premier League season.
Brunt praised the Hawthorns faithful and insisted they still have a vital role to play in the Baggies’ fight for top-flight survival.
There were more murmurings of discontent as Tony Mowbray’s men lost 3-1 to Arsenal on Tuesday after a defensive horror show, although supporters stopped short of full-scale booing.
Brunt, who struck the opening goal against the Gunners, urges the Albion faithful to stick by them.
He said: “The fans have been great all season for us. This is as frustrating for us as it is for them, because none of us want to go back to the Championship.
“But it is a lot easier when you’re sat in the stand watching and it’s harder when you’re out there playing because Arsenal are a great team.
“They are a Champions League team and they showed the quality they had in their squad by being able to rest a few people.
“The fans just need to keep behind us and keep believing. The home games coming up are potentially winnable ones, but we need to tighten up at the back and defend our box better.
“If we do that hopefully we can get points.”
The defeat to Arsene Wenger’s side left Albion without a win in eight games and rooted to the foot of the Premier League table.
To make matters worse, victories for Hull and Stoke and a draw for Blackburn worsened the Baggies’ plight.
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Most people in the stands could play better than you, you clown.
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Most people in the stands could play better than you, you clown!
As for being the sponsor’s M-O-M sorry, but you were NOT the best of a bunch of losers.
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How about the dire performances against Newcastle & Fulham then Brunty??
Explain those!
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“Oh! my job’s really hard”
“I have to kick a ball all day and pick up several thousand pounds a week”
“And people keep booing me”
“Boo hoo hoo”
SHUT UP YOU TWERP!!!
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1. We are all frustrated and disappointed but that is a ridiculous comment.
Brunt has improved in recent games and his free kick was an exceptional strike.
However.
I do take exception to players dishing out the same old mantra of winnable games when it is clear that an appalling defence and attack firing blanks will somehow improve against Stoke and Bolton teams who are winning games. Add to that – Stoke usually beat us at home and Gary Megson will do his best to get one over on Peace.
Finally!
Tony Mowbray and some of the players are giving Stoke and Bolton the gee up they need for match day by saying that they are games we can win. Players from these teams will find extra motivation so that they are not beaten by a very poor and BOTTOM club let alone the fact that they also need the points!
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Seems that us Baggies are turning into Dingles. Rest of team would be OK if we could defend. Need a left back who knows what his position is and a bit of confidence. TM was the greatest manager for years last year and given time to reflect on this season and learn from his mistakes, will still be my choice to manage our team.
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Doesn’t MATCH mean all 22 players.
Surely in fairness, an Arsenal player should have got the Man of the Match award.
It seems rather pathetic if we are only going to give it to the home team however our players perform??
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Here we go comments 1,2,4 – cowardly personal insults – turn on the team just when they need the support.
Be critical if that’s the way you support the team but personal insults on individual players???
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Sorry Jeff, I did not see that as an excepional strike by any means.
In my humble opinion Brunt is on of several people in our team who hide, ponce about, and neither support the defence, or the front two.
It is not his fault that he has limited ability, ie, he cannot beat a player to save his life ! but a lack of real effort ,as in making tackles etc, given our present plight is inexcusable.
The jeers and laughter when he was announced as M-O-M were well deserved, and perhaps the real reason why he feels the need to have a pop at the people who pay his fat salary.
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brunty you and the other muppets start showing desire and doing the simple things like defend and we stop moaning you overpaid muppet, get back to Sheffield Wednesday
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My biggest gripe is that a lot of supports on here are like sheep, they listen to the likes of Paul Franks on Radio WM who never has a good thing to say about the Baggies team or management and dote on his every word. Time to get a mind of your own and look at the whole picture not just the one in front of you. If you are true Baggy fans you would stick by the team through thick and thin and support the manager,what he has done in the past can only get better,if we all do a job log enough we can only improve.If there is a time our team needs us its NOW so come on lets get behind them for the remaining few games and make a fight of it.
Rant over…Boing Boing
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8.I am 62 years old and have been supporting home and away since 1955.
I very much resent that the majority of the current crop of players have no heart for the fight to retain our place in the Premiership.
The Support this season has been excellent, and now everyone has had enough of workshy players, who are giving up without a whimper.
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11. Please do not insult my intelligence, I know what I see with my own eyes. TM has assembled a squad of players with much skill but no heart.
Once again we will need to rebuild if we go down,
as this bunch WILL NOT get us promoted from the Championship
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12 Spot on! Desire is an important factor in a successful team. We have none! Desire is transmitted down through the Manager. That’s why Fergie, the Special one, Cloughy and Bill Shankley all had success.
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Face facts we are a very bad excuse for a premier league side, what TM is doing in training god only knows,all season we have been conceding at set pieces, and he has done naff all about it,anyone could see we have been screaming for a defensive midfielder,so what does he? do gets a winger,the fans have every right to feel angry, i know i do.And to top it off, it looks like the dog heads might be getting promoted…
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Get into Premiership, get loads of money. Make two piles with money. Buy players with one half, trouser the other half. Job done! Boing Boing, Yoyo Yoyo.
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Interesting:
We seem to have a big divide between Baggies fans. Those having a go and starting to turn on the team and then the others who acknowledge that we are obviously in a bad position but who are still supporting the staff and players.
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TIPTON TOWN WOULD BEAT THESE CLOWNS
THEY WOULD EVEN GIVE THEM 3 GOALS START
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Out of the 23000 Albion fans on tuesday , about 2to3 thousands booed.Im in the Brummie no one did in our section most have had the same seats for years ,but we have a group who only come in the premier leugue.Not real supporters.WIN OR LOSE GET BEHIND THE TEAM.
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Back to normal next season in the Chapionship ,when all the moaners who only buy season tickets when we are in the Premiership do not renew.
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Baggie 9 – i don’t belive any one in the Birmingham Road is capable of making any noise.
without us in the Smethwick there would be no atmosphere!
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I can’t even think of what to say to you lot. We’re going down, we all know it, but why even call yourselves fans if all you’re going to do is moan about everything as soon as it gets hard to support your team.
As for the bloke who claims to be 62 and therefore older and wiser, you’re a miserable old git who should know better than to attack your own club when they need your support. Get down the road and support them lot instead, they won on Tuesday night, so go put your orange top on.
I also notice that SuperMaths apart, the posters who are being extremely negative are posters with names that are new to me. (i.e. Dingles with new usernames again????)
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I think we are all frustrated and disappointed,this was compounded with a stat that we have conceded more goals in the air than any other team in all four divisions this season.However, we all love the club so let’s behind it for the rest of the season and show everyone else out there what good supporters we have even if we do go down.
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Mobray should get rid of the whole back five NOW !
including that over rated donkey called Robinson, what a carthorse he is – just a clogger !!
Then when he has done that, get his own case packed because he just can’t see what everyone else can, week in week out – season in season out.
The whole back four have been tripe for at least the past two seasons.
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Baggie77 I sing, shout jump up and down and Ive got aabad heart and dodgey knees.Been going every season since 62 never booed once and ive seen some tripe.On to this smethwick debate the smethwick is now made up of ex Brummie rd,that is why the brummie has suffored.The Smethwick was empty with 10 minutes to go.LETS ALL STICK TOGETHER SUPPORT OUR TEAM.
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21, is that the same smethwick end that was empty with 10 mins to go,aye boing boing im off
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Im a season ticket holder in the brummie road ive never seen such a bad defence as ours. Its not mowbrays fault its the players they get payed to play for 90 minutes, I think our problems have been the arrival of peter grant and the fitness coach from blues. I would drop meite and play pele, Robbos not been the best this season. One player we should of signed is james beattie from sheff utd look at the job he has done at stoke peace wouldnt stump up any money in january, Jeremy peace is a clown tight with money him as chairman what chance do we have next season GET JEREMY PEACE OUT.come on baggies make a fight of whats left of the season.
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as anyone seen where blackpool are in the league i hope they dont gu down aye boing boing oh i do like to be beside the seaside
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1. If someone is paying £40 a match, then that entitles them to a moan or groan.
2. 2 central defenders,(how long is Clement out for?) one ball winner in midfield and a out and out goal scorer (e.g. Phillips) would put things on a better footing.
3. having a settled side, Rafa was called the tinkerman for doing exactly the same as ToMo, would enable the team to play better and have an understanding and confidence in each other.
4. loan players are not intersested in West Brom, only securing a pay cheque from English football.
5. Personal insults do not help or improve the individuals performance.
COME ON YOU BAGGIE BOYS!
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22;Noballs, it’s strange that everyone who disagrees with you is wrong and therefore fair game for insults. Braggie fans, who you will have heard of, suggest that up to 3000 were booing and that the ground was almost empty at final whistle. This from an insufferably arrogant group who were relishing the chance to go to the Emirates at the beginning of the season. Now the question seems to be where would you rather be, here entertaining Arsenal or down the pub? Looks like down the pub won then! Get from up yourself son, yours isn’t the only opinion in town.
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22. Seat Q122 East Stand Happy to debate with you any time my friend.
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If we are going to start “I’ve been going longer than you, nah,nah,nah,nah,ner,ner” rubbish then one or two only can beat September 1944 when I began. NEVER have I booed my team, nor will I although I do have a quiet(ish) grumble now and then, BUT THE PLAYERS WILL NEVER HEAR ME! Brunt is a good player in my view, crosses a mean centre as you would see if we only had The King in the middle. Whether these moaners are Dingles-In-Disguise or Real-Albion-True, (there’s a laugh, and the capitals say it all), do you really think you are helping with your caustic, twisted, frustrated comments? Stay away by all means and then moan. We don’t need you. One last point: I would wish with all my heart that I could get a bet on No.1 ’s comment that anyone in the stand could play better. He could have 22 in his Brummie Rd team and I’d choose my team from Albion players. I had the luck, (misfortune ?) to play against League club RESERVES in the Army just occasionally. Your team No. 1 wouldn’t know what hit ‘em! Stop talking bloody saftness!
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4 years Prem/Sky money – 2 ( soon to be 3 years) parachute payments. Cant afford James Beattie but Stoke can in their first season ! Wheres all the money gone ?
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We all have an opinion some positive others negative, it is very hard to find positives out of false provado from the manager. At the start of the season he saying we are good enough to stay up with a weakened side to the one that got us promoted – with the football that we play I think the majority of us fans believed him.
The harsh reality is we are a push over in all aspects of the field.
Defence – joke!
Midfield – gung ho!
Forwards – blank!
I do hope Mowbray gets the chance next season to learn from his mistakes because all season (in my opinion) he has got a lot of decisions wrong. A very costly exercise seeing as he spent the best part of £30million in the summer.
The biggest joke of all is he believes we can get something from the likes of Bolton, Stoke, Wigan and Blackburn who all play long ball! I fear the worse for the ball over the top of our defence.
I have been a season ticket holder for the past 25 years, this season has been the most frustrating of them all because we are so close to being a good side.
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face facts the championship is where we belong with our wage structure it will not change while peace is there so get used to it
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30 – thanks love, but I’ve just checked and they’re still there. I know I’m in the minority on these pages because I refuse to follow the norm and continuously slate the players and coaching staff at the moment, so expect people to have a different opinion to me.
Obviously you’re more used to the in-fighting being a Dingle, so you may find it acceptable, but I don’t think that slating everything that the players or management does is going to help anyone at all.
Everyone who has mentioned how few people were still in the Smethwick by the final whistle on Tuesday, you’re all 100% right, I couldn’t believe it when I turned around to see so many empty seats……I stayed to the end to miss the traffic!!
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The fact is, none of us would mind going down, if we did it fighting. Its the lack of fight that upsets me. You can still play attractive football and be nasty. Remember Don Revie’s Leeds?
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22.
“I also notice that SuperMaths apart, the posters who are being extremely negative are posters with names that are new to me. (i.e. Dingles with new usernames again????)”
How dare you?!!?!!
I’m not being negative – I’m being realistic.
If you think I’m being unduly hard on the peg-legged Mr Brunt then you’re either not a witness to his inane wonderings around the park, or a relation of his.
I recognise that it’s not up to him whether he’s selected or not – and for that Mr Mowbray has held his hands up – but it is his responsibility to EARN the money that we’ve just coughed up to pay his wages (admittedly I didn’t pay this week but that’s besides the point!).
I find it very difficult to be positive about anything involving the Albion at the moment – the p*ss-poor away record, having conceded more than 50, having crashed out of both cups, being bottom of the league, having the central defensive options that we have, the injuries that have besieged us, Peter Grant, Craig Shakespeare’s exit, Robbos continuing employ in the left back role, …
… do you need me to go on?
So, to be accused of being overly negative is a little misplaced don’t you think Mr Nedball?
(I’m interested to hear your opinion on this!)
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I also take offence at the title of this article:
. “Brunt appeals to angry Baggies”
He hasn’t appealed to me since the FA Cup semi!
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I don’t think there is any argument that we have missed a great opportuntiy this year. The standard in the bottom half of the Prem is poor, the team we came up with was stronger than any of our previous promotions, and we have spent a fair amount of money in the Summer. Gradually Mowbray is admitting to the various mistakes that he has made this season -first he acknowledged that the forwards weren’t good enough (and then did something about it), second he adapted a slightly more direct style of play (which won us those home games around Christmas), and now he has finally conceded that the defence isn’t good enough. It’s very frustrating for the fans because we have been telling him all of these things since the start of the season (and before)and he is supposed to be the expert!
All we can do now is get behind the team & hope that he has genuinely learnt from his mistakes so that they are not repeated the next time we get promoted, which should be next season.
There will always be nuckle draggers who just want to hurl insults at the players & I suppose they have the right to their opinion, but in general I think most Albion fans are more intelligent than that & the regular posters on here tend to bear that out.
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Let’s face it folks – we are not a Premier League club and will not be so until we can afford to attract and keep top footballers. WBA FC is and will continue to be a successful business whilst Mr Peace and the board are at the helm. This is not a crititism and he has opened the door to investment now a couple of times. Regarding the manager, is he any worse than recent managers – Robson, Megson, Buckley, Little etc, certainly not. 2 Wembley appearances, a play-off final defeat and Championship winners trophy. What do the boo boys want, to swap him with someone like muppet Mick from the Orange bowl? West Brom till I die, through thick, thin and thinner!
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Do you have to be a regular poster to be an intelligent, true Albion fan (and yes I am 30+ years). Occaisionally, something stirs the more intelligent Albion fan to have a say, you know, the ones who have other things to do aside from posting on the internet all day. What a narrow sighted bunch. Football promotes banter and opinion.
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I think Nedball must have taken to drinking before the games. Like most people who post on here I am a long standing season ticket holder and will continue to be one whatever division we are in. However as people have pointed out ever since Mowbray took over we have looked vulnerable at the back and he seems clueless as to how to correct it. I am not advocating a change of manager but he needs to learn and quickley. Robinson and the rest of the back four should be dropped for the next game as the message seems to be that no matter how poorly thay play they will still be selected. This is proven by Chec’s lack of games and Zuiverloon being played week in week out despite an inability to tackle. I am all for good football but I also like to see the team win and Mowbray has built a team with neither power or heart. Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool all play decent football and all have players who know how to tackle when the need arises, i think TM still has this romantic ideal of non contact football and he needs to re-assess this and fast.
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we used to have lots of fun on here,wheres all the humour gone,come back happy baggie, n worcester,bronson,filton wilf,loffinwolf,aye boing boing moan moan moan
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brunty, be quiet, you are a goodish footballer but please dont insult the albion fans intelligence, pick up your money for the week and be pleased that in your own head you have done a good job this week…..pathetic
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Problem is that Mowbray was choosing players looking through Scottish Premiership glasses. They might well have been good enough in Sconny Botland but not in the English Premier. Up until 2 games ago the players thought their skill would cut the mustard, now they know it takes more than that and baggies fans are no mugs, we’ve seen enough wasters over the years. You would need a Brian Clough to get the best out of this bunch.
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Supermaths, He was not having a go at you read it again he said supermaths apart meaning not you mate, I think we are all p&**ed off at the moment cheer up at least you got in for free!
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Cyril and shorty
Im working in costa del hull at the moment and hence have posted very little as meetings are generally not the time to post plus newe job new impression lark. However i traveled from hull to west brom for the game tuesday and deeply regretted it afterwards. 3 hrs their, 3hrs back to watch that was a joke. I booed. Continually waste my money on season tickets and away games to watch stupid mistakes and players who continually make them get rewarded by playing the next game. Mowbray has made a number of critical errors this season that have cost us. If you have a blunt tool to do a job you change it, so why dont a subs get a game. I am fed up with watching the same players ruin my saturday and midweek.
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Nedball (22) – SPOT ON MATE !!!
Yes we are bottom, and yes we are probably going down (but there is still a glimmer of hope) – but all these “fans” who can’t support the team when we lose are the same ones who felt “cheated” when there was no parade with the CCC trophy..
I don’t care whether you were there in 68 or 2008 – the principle is the same – love the club, cheer the lads and win lose or draw give them our support.
I ain’t quite given up hope yet, and I will still be cheering the players (probably these very same players) next season WHATEVER division we are in.
As for old saddo “five pinter” – another clown who tries to be clever when wolves win a game but has been strangely absent on here for a few weeks…..
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Sorry, but I think Brunt has improved; whether or not he’s good enough for the Prem is another matter.
Still rather be a Baggie than a Villian or a Dingle.
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Arsenal are not a bad team but at the moment the Albion would make anyone look good with frankly worse than amateurish defending, a lack of strength in midfield and an erratic front line. Too many players are under-performing and we are where we deserve to be – bottom of the league. The fans put up with a lot and spend good money every week in the hope that the players put in the effort on matchdays. But what happened vs Newcastle, Fulham and Arsenal? Poor, insipid displays. We read that the players are hurting but the fans are hurting more because we are powerless to do anything about the situation except cheer the team on. But when they let us and themselves down we can only react accordingly. By saying the players, team, manager and chairman are not good enough and, at times, have let us down. So Brunty, give us something to cheer for and be proud about! Not frustrated and disappointed like the feeling after the Newcastle and Arsenal home games where we have gifted a bad team and a half-decent team 3 points on both occasions by being, frankly, awful.
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I don’t think all the booing was directed at the players. The referee was quick to hand out yellow cards to WBA players but many Arsenal fouls went unpunished. As usual the referee seemed to be afraid of big name players. I know it’s frustrating when our team lose but any true supporter will continue to support the team through thick and thin. Come on everyone – get behind the team, cheer them on and be the extra man or woman.
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Okay – it costs a fortune to take a family to watch a match, but the team should be supported however badly they play. There’s no guarantee that it’ll be good football with any team, and it’s not cheap to employ Premiership players on Premiership wages. Get behind the side and enjoy being in the top division. The supporters are essential for two reasons – the SUPPORT, and the money! So pay-up and give the club the support they deserve.
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50. Happy, 45. Terry 36. Nedball, Worcester, Sutton Who etc…. How are you my friends ? Looks like we’re all in the doghouse at the moment. I’ve bee quiet for the same reasons as a lot of you….not because we’ve been losing / drawing but because of all the negative sh*te that’s been flying around on both sides. As you say Terry we used to have fun but it seems as though that word doesn’t exist any more. I’ve come to believe that there are very few true fans around these days on either side – you always get called a happy clapper or some such name. After the debacle of Plymouth I had a real go at the team and called them a disgrace and that I was ashamed of them. However, I did not boo the team off the pitch like probably 15 – 20,000 fans did because I am a fan, I do support my team. I will still support them if we end up bottom of the Premier next year. More importantly I will still support them if we end up staying in the CCC – I actally enjoy a fizzy pop every now and then if the the truth be known (ESPECIALLY IF IT’S FLAVOURED WITH HOPS !!)!!
I read all these posts saying they pay their money and have a right to moan, but the thing is, they have freedom. If they think they’re wasting their money why go to the games ? I think deep down they are all Happy Clappers and are just frightened to admit it !! (Oh dear, I’ve gone and done it now ain’t I ?!!!!)
Come on everybody, let’s bring back some happy times and chat with each other, wind each other up (without the personal insults) and for God’s sake let’s have some fun !!
End of rant, must go and hide now, the men with the straight jacket have come looking for me !!
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44. SPOT ON!
I still maintain Bruntys free kick was an exceptional strike.
Usually an albion player blasts a free kick well wide or high.
It beat the keeper. No deflection. Beat the wall.
When did we last score direct from a free kick? Anyone remember? Clem was our best free kick taker.
Brunty has improved but he is still not a Prem. standard player at the moment BUT he can get better in the future.
I will always support the team. Stayed till the end on Tuesday.
Will always reserve the right to have an opinion in private and on these pages.
Rude, ignorant, nasty. intimidating and personal comments from bully boys are not acceptable on here!
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Terry, I couldn’t agree more. You are in the Prem and we are top of the Championship and yet almost every post on both sides is filled with hatred. Every Baggie knew that you would lose lots of games this season as we will if we make it. You still have a chance of staying up and you need everyone pulling in the same direction. Heaven forbid but look how the Stoke fans are all behind their team. I sometimes think that Wolves and the Baggies achieve modest success despite our fans and not because of them. Good luck on Saturday and try and smile everybody.
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45…Terry my ole mate, I am still here!!! Just depressed by all the negative nonsense that is being bandied around on both sides !!.. How are you doin’ ? I’m still relying on your man TM to pull the rabbit out of the hat so that we can have a Premiership derby next season. Mind you, the way things are going we could have a derby in the CCC next year !! I think you’re right, we don’t have as much fun as we used to on these posts – are we gettin old ?!!!. It was good to see Happy and Nedball postin’ again and Cyril..another voice of reason, well posted my friend !!
Oh well, I better close and change my location before the Gloom Police find me and lock me up !! Take care my friends and good luck for the weekend.
To all the doom and gloomers (on both sides)….yes you do have the right to moan and groan because you pay your ticket money, but make it constructive, not just an all out assault on your team (and yes I did have a personal go at Henry last week but I thought it was justified !!)…remember the colours you wear and who you support.
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TO EVERYONE!!!
IF WE ARE GOING DOWN….. LETS GO DOWN IN STYLE!!!
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Terry, happy, Worcester, Sutton Hoo, Nedball,…I am here but nothing seems to get posted !!! Help meeeeeeeeeee !
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The baggies fans passionts is running out, after the terrible performance against Fulham and Newcastle no baggies fan will forgive them if they play like that in the next 3 matches.Which will mean they are down if they loose,and no effort from the players will stop the fans turning against them.Its alright for Blunt to plead to the fans to have faith in them,most of the baggies fans lost faith after the first few matches
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Don’t worry terry – I’m still around mate – just naffed off with the negativity on here.
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GOOD MORNING,right who we gunna send to the gallows today,aye boing boing noose
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29 shorty,if they are paying £40 a match then they must pick there matches so i take it we wont see them agen till we play liverpool,aye boing boing donk
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No doubt some are delighted but I cannot get anything up on these posts right now. ‘Page Unavailable’ standard reply. So I copy into word and try again and again and again. Think back gentlemen, 3rd Division, players like De Frietas who got picked but stayed in bed because he didn’t know there was a game that day, having our very own ‘Grimsby’ team to applaud. We’ve come a long way as have The Wulfies. Let’s not destroy what has been built under Mowbray and Peace just because the missus went out with the lodger.
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59 filton,how are you mate,great to hear from you,in regards to your comments not being posted theres a few having the same prob,they only allow a certain few to post on each others site,thats another reason the banter as gone,if i use the word dingle in my comment its not posted,so come on mods loosen up,its just abit of banter aye boing boing STAYING IN THE PREM THE MOWBURY WAY IN STYLE OH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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54filton,ive been in the doghouse to many times in my life to start worrying about it now,i couldent give a toss what people think of my post,i wont stop posting just to please some other one season wonder fans,to many have got to short a memories,the joy on my daughters face when we played will never be forgotten,going to plymouth on a tuesday night and winning seeing my daughter jumping for joy with last minute wins at sheff wed,and the come back at blackpool,we owe tony mowbray so much the least we can do is stick by him when the going gets tough,if we do go down im sure he will have learned by his mistakes like we all do,aye boing boing THERES ONLY ONE TONY MOWBURY
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filton, i meant to say when we played at wembley.
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Now you lot have spoilt the mood and gone all friendly, nothing more to be achieved until after the weekend. Good to see Braggie back, easy target! Oh, and by the way, I haven’t been absent; my best work rarely gets posted.
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i am a baggies fan through and through even if we are in the prem or championship.i agree with most people yes its true we do have some defence problems, there is no comunication between them and carson but just shut up moaning and support our team. COME ON BAGGIES BOING BOING
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just read the comments what is it about this blind loyalty to t.m if s.g.m had just leaned up the dug out with a smile on his face during the fulham game the usual suspects would have said he’s taken us as” far as he can” that peformance was a total disgrace and he just stands there and the rubbish i heard after the arsenal game about well its arsenal they are better than us well stoke have now beaten arsenal,villa and liverpool failed to score against them in both games but i am sure people will say we lovely football i don’t care what trype of football it is as long as we are winning when chelsea won the prmiership with 19 1-0 wins i bet they didn’t care mowbray needs to change and think about it how many of this team would you want to buy if you were a premiership manager carson?moore?(will leave on a free transfer in 18 months time)meite?kim?brunt?pele?bednar?
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