Tuesday, February 9, 2010
Fans urged to lay off Keogh
Wolves players today appealed to the Molineux boo-boys to lay off Andy Keogh as the striker again became the fall guy for his side’s stuttering promotion challenge.
The four-goal Irish forward was booed by the home fans and then immediately substituted after opting to head a chance across goal rather than look to score in last night’s 3-3 draw against Norwich.
Unlike strike partner Sylvan Ebanks-Blake, whose first career hat-trick in his 50th League start for Wolves proved in vain, Keogh’s confidence seemed fragile.
Before being replaced by Kyel Reid he had failed to shoot when well placed and missed a header.
Earlier in the season, boss Mick McCarthy rounded angrily on supporters who booed Keogh during the 2-1 home defeat of Coventry and team-mates Chris Iwelumo and Matt Jarvis have backed 22-year-old Keogh to ride the latest fans’ storm.
Iwelumo said: “I don’t understand it, personally. He works his socks off, and he was awesome last night and he knows all the boys feel that about him. It would be nice if the fans could support every single player. If they do, we’re only going to benefit from that.”
Jarvis said: “I’m just disappointed for Keogh because he works extremely hard and he did really well. He’s not doing anything else but trying his best.”
McCarthy said: “Keogh will still be a big player for us. Andy’s different class – he works his shift. Having come off, the crowd responded in the right way when they were shouting his name.”
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Mick would be well advised to concentrate on picking his best team. His stubborn streak in trying to prove fans are wrong about his favourites does nobody any favours.
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It’s time to drop keogh and start playing VOKES with SEB..
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I heard no booing. I heard the cheers but they was directed at Mick, thats why we sang his name! Play players in thier correct postion, the old cliche of square pegs in round holes comes to mind (Very effective last season that method!). Reid should of come on for Kites to maintain the width!!
If Mick believes in so much in Keogh then why move him from up front??? Surely that is going to knock the lads confidence infront of goal!
Also what if a defender had got injured last night, would he of moved Keogh to centre half?
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Am I the only person that has had enough of mm and all the other players telling me how I should react to Keough, what I should think of him, and what i should say about him?
I agree with everyone that tells me he worsk his socks off his attitude is great and his commitment to the cause is 110% I also believe that if all our players had that same desire, commitment, and work rate that Keogh has we would be walking away with the championship trophy with ease.
However there needs to come a time when a player is told he is not good enough. I have given him chance after chance after chance to prove he has the quality but it is simply not there. Keogh makes to many basic errors, basic mistakes in decisions he takes on the pitch and generally constantly puts an end to our free flowing attacking threats by receiving the ball stopping dead still and passing back. There are simple things sunday league players do week in week out that he does not do. Thats why the fans get so frustrated with him, he is a pro footballer he is getting paid to do it and if he is not doing it, then like in the real world we all live in where if we are not doing our jobs to the required standard then he should lose that privelage!
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I do however think MM is a good manager but like everybody he is not perfect.
Therefore I believe its time MM looked at some of his decisions and become a man and admitted his mistakes instead of constantly blaming everybody and anybody else!
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keogh is the hardest working player in the team and all he does is get booed for it your all a joke
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Unfortunately, the manager is hanging him out to dry out on the pitch, as 99 per cent of fans acknowledge he isn’t good enough.I felt genuinely sorry for him last night.
And while I don’t condone the booing or ironic cheers, there is no way he deserves a place in the team.
The argument that ‘Wolves play better with him in the side’ is a complete fallacy. We played our best football at home to Notts Forest / Sheff Wed, away to Preston, etc, when he was out of the firing line.
Mick has criticised Iwelumo for not scoring in 6, while Kevin Doyle has got 2 in 11 for Reading. Would Coppell drop him? No chance, would he criticise him publicly? No chance.
Mick’s double standards and favourites policy are the problem here, and the fans are showing their frustrations because of it.
I’d like to see: a) fans laying off Keogh, but more importantly, b) Mick picking his best team each week.
This issue is a sub plot to the wider storyline – namely that we will throw this magnificent season away if we are not careful.
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It’s just venting frustration at another hopeless defensive display. I can’t believe how determined our defenders are to blow this wonderful season and squander all the work of our attacking players, Keogh included!
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If MM picked his strongest side then perhaps he wouldnt need to be making stupid comments. Strikers are paid to score and he aint doing it!
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Keogh does work hard, but he’s scared to shoot or to take players on! he always looks to play the ball backwards instead of taking it forward….
Vokes is a totally different class and should be starting, his movement a positioning is excellent..
I hope to see berra and vokes starting on Saturday..
UP THE WOLVES!!!
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The way MM turned to us last night with his sarcastic clapping was a disgrace. I pay my money and am entitled to my opinion and how I voice that opinion.
1. Keogh probably shouldn’t have started.
2. If MM had subbed him after about 60 mins not at the end there wouldn’t have been such an uproar, the problem is entirely his own making.
3. Players like Jarvis and Iwelumo shouldn’t come out saying Keogh was awesome last night, that’s just taking the p*ss out of us who were actually there and have a brain
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Poor chap! Lets have more booing please
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listen here mick i pay my 400 pound every year i pay part of yours and keoghs wages and if i fink keogh is usless im gunna tell him and you hes usless. so stop tellin us to lay off him andpick your best team he a striker thats affraid to shoot wheres that going to get anybody.
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I am truly baffled how such a simple premise can’t sink in for some people. When a player is on the pitch, he is likely to react to the crowd. If he is encouraged, he will do better, if he is mocked, he will do worse. I also thought the following was a simple truth. As a Wolves fan, I want all Wolves players to do well and for us to win… Maybe I’m the deluded one. As it is said, “You pay your money and are therefore entitled to your opinion”, well I do pay my money and that is my opinion. Come on you Wolves and thanks for the great ride so far this season.
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Keogh is just the latest in a long line of scapegoats. He wasn’t great last night in front of goal, he missed two sitters in my opinion, but he didn’t let in 3 goals. The defence, or at least some of them, were the issue last night. Let’s hope Berra makes a difference because it’s needed.
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If I went to work and my performance was as bad as Keogh’s is, I would expect my bosses to have ago at me. Its all well and good saying that he works hard, but at the end of the day, I could work hard but it doesn’t make me a good footballer.
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Ok, let’s clear up one myth here. THAT HEADER… he didn’t try to square it at all. I was stood (yes stood!) at the perfect angle to see it. It came over a defender, Keogh wasn’t looking and it hit him on the head when he failed to anticipate (yet again) the possibility of more than one outcome to a situation.
He’s so incredibly lightweight it’s scary. His passing lacks conviction, he daren’t shoot and he’s a liability.
Stick a 16 year old kid into the team and he too will work his socks off and “put in a shift”… Keogh just isn’t good enough for us, we’ve outgrown him.
The ironic thing is, if keogh was a real greedy git and smacked the ball towards goal at every opportunity then the fans would love him. Instead he fannies about, tries to be too clever for his own good (which rarely works) and he tries threading little balls through smaller gaps.
Sorry andy, just not happening for you here and if you’re still in this squad come what may I’d be very upset with the favouritism shown towards you by our manager (who i do rate!)
all the best. Top of the league… etc etc
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notice none of them had anything other to say than how hard he works. he has always been one of the worst players. drop him and play S.E.B and vokes together. keogh out!
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iwelumo wasnt scoring goals so mick dropped him keogh has scored 4 all season how cum he hasnt dropped keogh as quick stop pickin your favourites or your gunna start 2 P**S people off
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I was here before any these people, I will be here after them. So they can not tell me to do anything! I work hard and pay my money. They get to wear and play for a club I would do anything for! I would give anything to have thier jobs!
So stop worrying about us and do your jobs, instead of annoying fans. How we all meant to stick together with these daft comments from players?
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7.You are right MM is hanging him out to dry.
Keogh will never get the amount of goals needed for a striker, even at Scunthorpe he was not prolific but did make the chances for Billy Sharpe to take advantage of.
He would be far better used playing behind the front pair, where he can win a ball and give positive passes from it, who knows he could be that ball playing midfielder we still need.
But please don’t Boo the lad, he wears the shirt!
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If Mick sat in the Steve Bull stand last night and saw Keogh’s contribution to the team in the second half when asked to play as a winger. He would get a totally different view from what he sees from the dugout. Keogh may give 100%, but the simple truth is that he is not good enough and has really progressed over the two years he has been at Wolves. By Mick playing him in the wrong position he is destroying the player and I would bet that his confidence is now at rock bottom. Although I would not boo him, it is getting very frustration watching his poor performances week in week out.
Mick you need to stand up and take Keogh out of the firing line, before it becomes too late.
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If Mick sat in the Steve Bull stand last night and saw Keogh’s contribution to the team in the second half when asked to play as a winger. He would get a totally different view from what he sees from the dugout. Keogh may give 100%, but the simple truth is that he is not good enough and has not really progressed over the two years he has been at Wolves. By Mick playing him in the wrong position he is destroying the player and I would bet that his confidence is now at rock bottom. Although I would not boo him, it is getting very frustration watching poor his performances week in week out.
Mick you need to stand up and take Keogh out of the firing line, before it becomes too late.
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Keogh just isn’t good enough – simple. We have given him chance after chance but whether its against good or terrible opposition he hasn’t shone in any of the games.
Reid should have come on for Kightly (after all that is what we brought him in for) and Vokes for Keogh. SEB was awesome last night and just thank god he is on the pitch.
Vokes has my vote again to start alongside SEB.
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I do feel for the lad.
But if he aint good enough, what else can you do but drop him and give someone else a chance.
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11 WWFC
I pay my money too and I’d rather you saved yours and stayed at home.
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Keogh is awful – Mick picking him is as big a joke as picking Collins. He might think they are smashing lads, and they may be, but they are NOT GOOD ENOUGH!! How can he or Terry Connor not see it?! It could cost us big time
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The treatment of Keogh is totally out of order and counter productive. If those who so readily slag him off on here had someone breathing down their necks ready to jump on them as soon as they made a mistake, they too would become unsure of themselves. Keogh’s problems are fan related. Last night’s disappointment was down to defensive cock-ups that should not have occurred. Why not centre on that, if you must? Me, with 15 games left to go, I’d rather get behind the whole team and try to will them on to success. Are we the twelfth man or aren’t we?
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some of you lot just dont get it, get behind the team, and Keogh. Nobody is going to play to full potential, especially at his young age, with 20,000 people bemoaning his every move.
The more i read these board the more i wish some of you would go off and support the albion.
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Pick the right team and no-one has anything to moan about…simple as that.Keogh should not have started the last two games then wouldn’t have got the grief.I wish someone would pay me 5 to 10 grand a week to get a few ours citicism!!!!
Vokes Must start on saturday!!!!
Did anyone notice SEB and jarvo not congratulate each other after every goal last night?
We are Wolves
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……Dear Mick, i work hard and put a shift in can i have a game please?
Nice bloke, runs his socks off, but so does zola budd………….
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Whilst I agree with most of the comments about Keogh I do not believe this is what may still hurt us this season. It is all the defensive errors which occur time and time again. Collins and now Hennessey seem to me the main culprits at present. I thought McCarthy used to be an uncompromising centre half so what on earth does he do on the training field. I think instead of having a go at fans who are not stupid (they have eyes and ears) why doesn’t he just make sure these stupid errors are eradicated and start earning his money.
If players are not doing their jobs (defenders constantly letting in soft goals and forwards (AK) not taking their chances) then MM do your job and drop them from the team.
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I’m sorry right but where does this hard work myth about keogh come from. Last night he dawdled around at a snails pace for the 88 unjustified minutes of our time that he wasted.
What’s the use of a striker who not only won’t shoot, but ability wise, can’t shoot.
Can any of the keogh fan club possibly justify his place in the side ahead of Iwelumo, Vokes etc and can anyone please explain what he offers to the side. There is no pace, no aerial ability, no strength and no goals.
The ironic cheers last night were directed at the mug that continues to wrap keogh up in cotton wool and is waiting for something to happen from him so he can say ‘i told you so’ rather than making something happen himself
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it wasn’t so much booing but ironic cheering when he got subbed. the ‘not good enough’ does not hold water with me at all. he has played in alot of the games which have seen us get to the top of the league. ‘hes not good enough for the prem’ is completely irrellivent as we are not in the prem. I’ve been going to the molineux for the best part of 20 years and this is the first lot of players who i could never criticise for giving their absoloute maximum effort for the team, and keogh is very high on that list. that’s all you can ask for. if he isn’t good enough, then fair enough, but knocking him after the effort he continually puts in for the team is pretty pathetic. we didnt win last night because of keogh not scoring, we didn’t win because of rubbish defending in what was a highly entertaining match
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Just one more point…
Mick and his favourites,
They’ve got us up to 5 points clear of second place.
That leaves not much room for questioning his judgment.
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Rubbish Keogh wasnt booed last night,the opposite in fact.the Southbank did what mick told them and cheered him..They say he works his socks off for the side,,I think he does nothing,iff he gets the ball,his first thought is to play it back,how many times do you see him play a defence splitting pass,he wanders around like a chicken with his head cut off.
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The thing is mick has his favourites, Keogh and wardy spring to mind, they both work hard but keogh lacks confidence that showed last night near the end when he should have shoot on goal instead of passing back!! wardy was done with his lack of pace, we have a defender called matt hill!!! we need to cut out this crazy defending as i’m getting nervous now :{
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and if i did my job expected of me as poorly as keogh, i’d be sacked so why should it be any different because he’s a footballer earning a living from OUR money
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Keogh wasn’t the problem last night, the defence was. Keogh had a good game for 60 minutes.
Unfortunately, having a striker who will not shoot and thus cannot score limits the team greatly.
That said, the boy played well for most the game, so no I didn’t cheer his subsitution. I did clap him off and I did join the chant to give the lad a bit of support in light of the disgraceful treatment by our ‘fans’.
That said, I would rather see Vokes in the team in his place at the moment, as Vokes consistently works hard, wins headers and scores goals.
Time for him to be given his chance.
Up the Wolves.
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Mick McCarthy is the only obstacle between Wolves and promotion.His ridiculous assertion that as manager -I will continue to pick my cronies -as gone to far.Lets have the best 11 and no more square pegs in round holes
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Yes indeed I do have to agree with Mick McCarthy that Andy Keogh is different class. We’re a Championship club and he’s a League One player. Fair enough we can’t question his effort but we can question his quality and decision making on the ball. We’re the fans and we can have our say whether Mick likes it or not, which he obviously doesn’t given his ironic clapping and gesticulating on the touchline.
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lets face it, if he did his job we’d have bagged three points last night.
do you think we could do him on trades description? cos he certainly ain’t a striker!
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Look, how can we not boo him. He was awful last night and missed lots of decent chances. Why is mick playing him, Vokes has scored two goals in 2 games he deserves to start. You cant stick with your irish all the time mick.
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Amersham Wolf gave Mick 8 or 9 out of ten. An interesting statistic. Here are some more:
Norwich have scored nearly 20% of their entire league goal tally this season against Wolves.
Since Christmas Day, we have led league matches 4 times and have been pegged back on each occasion.
Mark Davies has been selected for the England Under 21s and I confidently predict will captain the full national side one day. Nigel Quashie,the alternative option for stiffening the midfield, can’t get to the ground on time.
We have won 2 games in the last 9 – one a cup tie.
For the first 8 matches of the season, we played free flowing football which was the envy of the division and – for once – received plaudits from all sides. Now, we’re hanging on like Devon Lock when there’s still a third of the season to be played and the plaudits are fading away!
MM, 9 out of 10? I give the team 8 and Mick 5. By contrast, I give Dave Jones 8, Owen Coyle 8, Alan Irvine 8 and Roberto Martinez 9!
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“awesome last night”
Chris, you should have gone to specsavers!
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Simple thing in life is lay off the criticism, no-one in the team is doingf anything to losre on purpose.
Keogh has his good and bad spells like the rest, Stears has a bad night and someone wants him gone,.
MM should and I hope he does analyse what the oppositions strengths are and puts a team out accordingly.
Only prob I had last night was swapping Keogh into Kites position when Kyel was on the bench.
WE ARE STILL TOP OF THIS LEAGUE
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i personally am disgusted by the way keogh is treated!!
i usually sit in the south bank but last night i moved to the steve bull due to the away fans being where i normally sit!!
i was apalled by the way keogh was booed & laid into! hes one of our lads & these same morons booing him were the same 1s cheering his goal on saturday against watford!!!
for once i was actually ashamed of the way a lot of our fans behaved towards one of our own!! keogh is a hardworking player & does not deserve the treatment he has been getting.
hes not the most natural goal scored but he works hard & creates chances – even when playing out of position!! LAY OFF HIM!!!!
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As a season ticket holder in the Jack Harris.. most of the people who sit (stand) by me actually HATE Keogh! Always moaning and chanting Iwelumo.. So I was over the moon when he scored last week and done the old “Are you listening” celebration to shut the prats up. Then the people who moan about Keogh have the nerve to tell other fan’s to stop moaning about Hennessey and support the team. Why don’t we all support the players in gold and black, who ever the player is get behind them. Booing aint going to make the player better and will surely dent his confidence.
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So losing the ball 7 times out of 10, poor decision making, having a slow footballing brain, being unable/reluctant to shoot is deemed “different class” by MM ?
UNBELIEVEABLE !!!
Personally I think that “The Stubborn One” will not drop Keogh as he is paranoid it will be seen as an act of appeasing us peasants….sorry, I mean fans !!!
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30 look at the pictures. One picture shows SEB with his arm around Jarvo!
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Molly Knew Mick – You confidantly predict that Mark Davies will captain the full England team one day ?!!
That’s the most ludicrous claim Ive heard on these boards. What on earth are you basing that on – the three years he spent at Wolves injured and doing absoloutley nothing until he was loaned out TO GET FIT ? How old are you ? 12 ? Do you play championship manager until bedtime ?
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lisa_wolves, you’re absolutely right. What is the point of booing your own players, talk about self defeating! Keogh is a Wolves player, support him. If he is truly awful, then he won’t be picked by the manager.
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The ’so called’ Wolves fans who chose to constantly boo Keogh are totally out of order in my opinion. Keogh is quite clearly a confidence player, can any of the fans that boo him tell me how this helps either Keogh or in fact the Wolves team? Keogh’s work ethic is fantastic, can’t any of you remember a certain Mr Blake who, if the ball wasn’t passed within 1 yard of his left foot refused to move!
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7. You say one of our best displays this season was Preston away, I agree, but what I seem to remember was it was 1-0 then Keogh came on and was class. Played his part in both the goals to make it 3-0. Without his introduction it may of ended 1-1.
That game however sums up my view on Keogh- Impact player. He doesn’t warrant a start but he is an important squad player.
I will never understand just hoofing the ball forward with SEB and Keogh up front. Get it on the deck and he is a different player. If we want to play long ball get CI or SV on. Simple
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MM is rightas fans we should never boo Keogh or any other player for that matter. That said Mick has has to recognise that Keogh has fragile confidence and most of the time he does not cut it. Vokes needs time to settle in to first team football because he is the answer on the basis we have not made a signing.
But we need to get behind MM and the team as this is a big time for the club.
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I do agree that Keogh gives his ‘all’ and the lad tries exceptionally hard.. But as i’ve said before, at this point, his ‘all’ isn’t benefiting the team or the results in many positive ways.. Yes, his confidence is very VERY shaky, and that’s to be expected when someone is constantly ridiculed, but from a football point of view, I think he would be much better on the bench, while either Iwelumo gets played and gets a chance to get his top form back,or Vokes gets a chance for a good three quarters of the match, then maybe bring him on for the last few minutes like MM did to Iwelumo last night. Keogh scored a vital goal for us last week and credit where credit is due. And i’m sure confidence does have a lot to do with his nervousness and ‘headless chicken act(as some supporters blatantly put it) around the ball and opposing players .. But I think it is a big risk to the results and our promotion race by playing him from start to the last few minutes of a match when there’s so much talent sitting on the bench that could take his place and take advantage of the situations Keogh has faced, with a lot more confidence. Taking advantage of openings, and going for goal when the opportunity expresses itself is what a player with confidence does, not passing it over to somebody else just to get the ball away from their own feet as quickly as possible.. At this point I think Keogh needs a good rest, a chance to build up some confidence, and I think Iwelumo needs to be given a chance from the start again, it’s the only way he’s going to get back on form.
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4. No, you’re not the only one!
Mick blames us fans for everything, yet doesn’t take himself to task for poor tactics and team selection. McCarthy has had past digs at us, now even the players are telling us what we should think!
I DO NOT agree with, nor condone mindless booing. However, fans PAY high prices to see games whereas players get PAID HANDSOMELY for doing the job we’d all love. Are we entitled to an opinion or not, then?
If Mick can’t see that Keogh isn’t up to the required standard, then it’s HIS fault for playing Andy and destroying his confidence into the bargain. So, Mick’s just as much to blame as the fans, if not more so.
Andy, get over it, son. Go take a look at your bank account, mate. I’m sure it’ll soften the feelings of rejection.
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RUDDY ECK!! THIS LAD IS LIKE MARMITE!! I DUNNO WHETHER I LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM!!
HE DIDNT DESERVE THE BOOING LAST NIGHT! IM SORRY BUT THE LAD IS SCARED OF HIS OWN SHADOW AT MOLINEUX CUS THE FANS ARE ON HIS BACK! HE AINT PLAYING AGAINST 11 LIKE THE REST OF THE TEAM! HE IS TAKIN ON 25,011!!!! (GOD HELP HIM IF IT WAS A FULL HOUSE!!!)
STICK WITH HIM! ON SATURDAY HE WAS THE MAN OF THE MATCH FOR ME! WORKED HIS SOCKS OFF AND THE CROWD GOT BEHIND HIM…RESULTING IN A GOAL!
NEED TO SORT OUT THAT DEFENCE THO! TOTAL JOKE LAST NIGHT
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We spoke about this in the pub after the game last night and we all agreed that MM would create a divide in the fans and will end up creating a divide between the fans & the players. Fact is – Keogh is not the problem – the problem is caused by playing him out of position and then he struggles. Our right winger gets injured, and we have another winger on the bench – we also have another midfielder in Dave Edwards on the bench, who would work just fine on the right-hand side – so what does MM do? He defies all logic and brings on another striker and puts a striker out on the wing – he then starts to struggle and it’s all opur fault when everyone gets frustrated!! Time for MM to take a long, hard look at himself instead!! We the fans, were here before him and will still be here long after he’s gone – we are the lifeline of the club and we know our football, so start treating us with a little respect Mick – by buying out season tickets, we are entitled to our opinions. By the way, I didn’t boo – I never do – it’s counter-productive!
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Too many comments to read the whole lot, some people have probably made similar comments, but Dan SL3 has hit the nail on the head I think.
Why don’t we just stick up for all the players 100%. They are all good players and they do their best….some people will never agree on our best team or whatever….but if we want to get promoted, all the players need our support, 100%. End of.
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Keogh can be summed up easily. ‘All quantity, not that much quality’.
I can’t knock his work rate and in certain games his running can play a big part when it comes to tactics, but I can’t help thinking that he’s better coming from the bench with fresh legs.
A bit like Dave Edwards.
I can’t agree with booing or taking the micky from our own fans. It’s not going to solve anything but I question MM on why he keeps picking him from the start???
What’s Vokes got to do to get a shirt for 90 minutes?
Up the Wolves!
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DON’T TREAT US LIKE IDIOTS MICK..HE MISED 4 GOLDEN CHANCES LAST NIGHT AGAIN AND HE’S A STRIKER FOR GODS SAKE WHO WON’T SHOOT..
IF WE DONT GO UP MICK WILL BE SAKED BUT HE CAN GET ANOTHER HIGH PAID JOB WHERE WE WILL BE LEFT IN THIS POP LEAGUE WITH THE LIKES OF KEOGH ETC..
VOKES CAME ON AND WON EVERY HEADER…
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Look at the end of the day were a team we cant get on his back hes only a kid say any other player makes a mistake the boo boys dont boo then do they, they have something against him at to be onest he did not do nothing wrong on the right last night to be onest carl kights wernt no were near as good as keogh last night when he was on so lets start getting of there backs and cheere the lads on and help them go throught this hard time in the season. And i would like to just make one more point was the anyone booing keogh when he scored i dont thinks so hes brilliant everyone has a bad game at the end of the day
Come on You Wolves
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Whilst I agree that maybe Keogh should be dropped why is he taking all the flack when players such as Hennesey, Henry and Jones are playing poorly.
To my mind half of our problems stem from our poor midfield. We never seem to be able to control a game and opposing midfields seem to be able to run stright through us.
Henry should be dropped on Saturday with Quashie taking his place. Berra in for Craddock, Ikeme, if fit, in goal and either vokes or big Chris upfront with Seb. We now need to win at Coventry. I notice that Cardiff put four past them the other week. We must improve significantly in central midfield and defence or we will not go up this season.
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I wonder why I read comments on here as it drives me mad. We ARE top. Whats wrong with you all? Mick has not suddenly been taken over by a changeling (I amy have to explain what that is to some!) and become a bad manager abd before someone says it he hasn’t ALWAYS been a bad manager, otherwise we wouldn’t be top !
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100% hard work and comitment only gets you so far in the kiddy sunday league div 6!! so how the hell is workrate alone going to make a decent championship player?? its time to pick the best 11 mick from now on…a touch of quality is needed at this standard not a blonde chicken with no head!! give vokes a run…hope berra is worth the wait.
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WELL SAID CHRIS 33….
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I don’t boo Wolves players and would turn on anybody who did, that said, Keogh’s performance last night was probably the worst in a Wolves shirt since that of Collin against the Albion twelve months ago. He didn’t win a single header in his time down the middle, and when he was moved into Kightley’s position he managed one header and sent a left wing free kick into row Z. Sorry, but at this critical time Merlin must pick his strongest side, and he ain’t.
I’m very worried about Hennessey too, he’s a great shot stopper, but, why has he suddenly (this season) started doing the Wall Street Shuffle on his line when crosses come raining in. Remember Wolves coaching staff other managers watch the vidoes !!
Need to turn it on at the Ricoh boys !
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I’m bored of this now.
I used to think Mick was quite funny with his arrogance and some of his TV interviews were hilarious.
Now I just think he is bigheaded.
How can one man think he knows more about a subject than 20,000 other people. My specialist subject is probably Beer but I wouldn’t like to bet my job that I know more about it than 20,000 other people.
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Mick is clearly trying to prove us fans wrong, well we’re here to stay, so turn on us if you will.
It wont get you very far Mick… Just Admit your faults in playing Keogh!
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Boo Boys?? I can assure you there was NO BOOING, however these was sarcastic applauding when he was substituted. I go to all home games and Koegh has never been booed. Thats it lets blame the fans again
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MOM was Sylvan Ebanks-Blake by a blooming country mile. Scored a hat-trick and could have had a nap hand, easily.
Andy was UTTERLY POOR in comparison. I feel for the lad, I really do, but he can’t cut it. Face facts, the team’s quality has moved forwards leaps and bounds since Mick first arrived and had no choice but to assemble a makeshift outfit. That’s why Collins and Keogh look so poor in comparison.
Nobody denies their effort and willingness (”putting a shidt in”), but they’re hopelessly out of their depth in a team striving for promotion. That’s the problem, and that’s why some fans are venting their anger. I don’t agree with it, but I understand it.
THAT’S THE BIG DIFFERENCE.
Mick, stop trying to make a point about who’s Boss to the fans by obstinately sticking by these two. It could cost our beloved club promotion…and you your job, eventually.
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He should pick the best team – end of!!! Keogh did not work hard on Saturday. His treatment of Iwelumo is unreal if he had carried on at his strike rate he would have scored 50 by the end of the season! Strikers have spells without a goal, he certainly won’t end that if he doesn’t play. The Berra situation is a farce – people sign late all the time – thats why it is DEADLINE DAY! What has happenned to Quashie??? Henry & Jones have offered nothing recently – so much for his experience in the STAND. We may be top of the league but MM does/says the strangest things!!
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Just a thought.
If Collins had made the mistakes for the goals lat night he would have been hung out to dry. Yet all we are hearing is that it was an overall poor defensive performance. It doesnt matter what the likes of Collins, Keough do it will never be good enough. People have there favourites and some faces just do not fit whatever they do. Last year it was S.Ward, yet he has in my opinion been one, if not, the player of the season so far.Last night Hennessey was poor and still does not command his area, Stearman had an error ridden match, Henry caused his own problems, Keough should never have been moved to the wing, the list goes on. One thing is for sure certain supporters will never be pleased, we are still top of the league but suffering in confidence. This will not improve until our so called fickle supporters do as they should do and support. I dread to think what would be happening if we where mid table. Would there be a Southamton scenario?
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we should support every player in gold and black – if not go up the road and watch the albion go down.
keogh is class – his movement and workrate is superb but he is just not an out and out goalscorer – maybe we are all spoily by Bully!! Look at all the support that Eastwood had and MM got slated for – but who was right? he’s done nothing at Coventry.
lets all get behind every wolves player as it’s a team and we have our part to play in it. We are still top of the league and together we can stay there – booing individuals effects all the wolves players – boo the opposition not your own lads.
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I wish he would understand our angrey.keogh is a foward but he might work his socks off but he is poor. He can’t socre and has no confidence.
If we get in the prem he is going to bottle it teams are going to laugh. Put in Vokes he wont bottle it!!!!
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yes we were shouting Keoghs name..as a joke !
there is one person to blame for the lad being booed and thats the idiot who keeps picking him when he is clearly not good enough for this division
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Unfortunately, I don’t get to the Wolves as often as I used to after many years of having a season ticket. However, from what I can tell from my half a dozen times this season plus TV games and live commentary, Mick is in danger of undoing all of the good work by being stubborn (as he is prone to be). I wish he would read these columns and maybe listen to the fan’s opinions. Wolves fans are passionate and emotional but they DO actually know what they are talking about. Overall, the criticism of Andy Keogh seems to conclude that no-one doubts his work rate or desire but he just isn’t good enough for a team aiming for automatic promotion to the Premiership. Please Mick, just consider the supporters views, they have no ulterior motive, they just want the best for “our” wonderful football club!!
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I had not intended to broach the vexed subject of Mark Davies again, but yesterday’s events dictate otherwise.
International recognition after one match! What’s that all about then ?
Be honest with yourselves, now, guys.
How many of you believe that NONE of our young “stars” are thinking they are missing out.
And ruing the transfer window being closed.
And checking the date of the next one opening.
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Keogh is a player to bring on with 15 mins to go if needed.
Had a chat last night on way home and if we go up to stay up the only players in my opinion our squad below. At the bottom of the prem has been some awful teams and in my opinion weaker than ever with teams like newcastle, spurs and blackburn being dragged in. my opinion was:
GK- Murray, Hennessey
df- Foley, Stearman, Berra
Mdf- Kites, Jarvis
fw- ebanks blake, vokes
Our other players would cope in certain games as some clubs have some shockers in their squad (paul robinson, brunt etc) but to consolidate alot of players of real quality would have to brought in. we are wolves.
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Been going to Wolves since 1967 – lived and worked all around the world but always kept my season ticket and travel home to as many games as possible.
Managers have come and gone, players have come and gone, the board has come and gone but we fans remain the constant. Our biggest challenge to progressing is a minority of our supporters who feel they are “owed” lots of success by “the club” whatever that is. Let me tell you that like all football fans around the world we are owed exactly nothing. No one makes us go – we choose to go – and with the one execption of Bully – we have been and are represented on the field by professionals who owe you and me nothing. They get paid – they do their best – they move on – full stop!
When oh when are you moaners going to realise that getting on any players backs during a game is the best weapon our opponents have? It causes players not to do the right thing (not shoot or cross the ball)and I know for a fact that many many managers pre-match talk at Molineux is to try to get our fans to turn on our team and their chances of a result go way up.
Was once told by a former Wolves winger that if his first cross of the game wasn’t perfect he didn’t want to try another cos he knew how much stick he was going to get for the rest of the game…. sound familiar?
If you want to go up this year cheer as loud as you can for 90 minutes – if not you’ll most likely get what you deserve! Your choice that one – not the players or managers or directors!
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I dont care what people say its nasty at the end of the day do it to oposition but not out on players come on its taking the micky now its past a joke even MM and the other players can see its got to stop
Come On Wanderers
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Get a life MM and some of the so called “fans”.
AK IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH NOW, he was passable last season, but the team has now “moved on” and AK has failed miserably to progress with it.
MM – PLEASE DO NOT THINK THAT ALL 20,000 REGULAR FANS ARE NOT KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE GAME. THe ironic cheers were aimed at MM for at long last recognising that AK should not have been on the field. MM has never shown an olive branch to the fans, on the contrary, he constantly critisises us, when in fact he needs to look closer to home for the culprit.
SV must wonder what he has to do to get his name in the starting line up for a league match.
I wouldn’t mind betting that MM is having goalkeepers kit made to fit AK – he will play him there next!! Mind you he couldn’t have less confidence than WH.
Memo to MM – Remember SQUARE PEGS FIT IN SQUARE HOLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Booing keogh will not help hes only a young lad and he will get better,its the muppet you should be booing cos hes not the man for the job.
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I think everyone nows were the booing is coming from aswell i thinks its the NB & SB
now answer that
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Not the best from keogh last night, but again I think it was dowm to MM’s Square peg in round hole substitutions. Reid should have come on for Kightly, if he played anywhere near as well as Jarvis, we would have had a hat full. Norwich struggled on the flanks. The fans could see that. The so called Booing, for keogh, in my view was aimed at MM, finally bringing Reid on so late in the game.
Out subs last night ! 1 goalie, no defenders or defensive midfielders, 1 attacking midfielder, 1 winger and 2 forwards !!!
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72 Spot on!!
The team has progressed well but AK and NC have not!!! I rest my case, but I bet AK starts at Cov on Saturday, probably on the right wing if Kites is unfit!!
By the way a lot of fans need an heasring check –
where did some of you get the idea that wany booing took place? The ironic cheers were for MM who woke up and realised(too late) that we had Kites repalcement on the bench!!!
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Re-instate Iwelumo (i know thats spelt wrong BTW) Use Vokes as a super sub and give Keogh some time off in the reserves, or use him as a utility player IMO. I personally think Keogh will develop into a very good player but needs eat to his chips, go down the gym and bulk up a bit and practice shooting at anything other than a barn door.To the boo boys, give Keogh a break. Booing one of your own team is counter productive to the team as a whole, common sense. So belt up or start supporting WBA
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Mick MACARTHY SEEMS TO BE IN HIS OWN LITTLE WORLD, AT PRESENT WOULD ARENT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE PREMIERSHIP, THE ONLY REASON WE ARE STILL IN TOP SPOT IS BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER TEAMS AROUND US ARE PERFORMING EQUALLY AS BAD, KEOGH LAST NIGHT DIDNT HAVE A BAD GAME. YES HE DID MISS A SITTER IN THE SECOND HALF, BUT JUST PUTTING THE BLAME ON HIM ISNT RIGHT, THE TACTICS MM IS USING ARE POOR 4 MEN ACROSS THE MIDFIELD ISNT WORKING OUR PLAYERS NEVER SEEM TO BE ABLE TO GET THE REBOUNDS OR DOMINATE THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK.
ITS TIME MR MCCARTHY LOOKED AT HIMSELF INSTEAD OF BLAMING EVERYONE ELSE IS MICK USING KEOGH AS HIS PAWN FOR POOR DISPLAYS YES!
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MM keeps saying respect the players, i say you respect the fans. We all know you are on a hiding to nothing quite simply you are not good enough. If we go up you will be out of your depth and will get the sack, if we don’t you will get the sack. Why not try and make your time with us more pleasurable and get us on your side. Who know’s future employer’s may be watching and think what we think…..you are to stubborn for your own good!.
We will be there long after you MM so just remember who really cares the most and who’s pain will stay for a very long time if we don’t get to the promised land and stay there.
Wolves till i’m in a box…
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some things never change at the wolves player and managers come and go but wolves have allways had there boo boys, i remember when i use to go watch the wolves seeing wolves suporters fighting with each other
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Come on Mick, is ‘putting a shift in’ really good enough for a so-called striker?
Strikers score goals which is something Andy Keogh does not do enough of!
Running around, working your socks off but producing SFA is not on a striker’s CV now is it Mick?
If Keogh was to ‘play in the hole’ then perhaps, just perhaps, his work ethic may add something to the team but as a striker? – You’re having a laugh Mick!
While I’m at it, as the defence seems to be notoriously bad, I must ask this question – who does the defence training?
You Mick were a defender, so surely the blame falls on your shoulders?
Do you take training or do you just watch?
Hopefully Berra knows all about defending otherwise we are all in for a very bumpy ride until the season’s end!
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Big Chris says Keogh was “awesome” last night while Mick says he’s “still a big player for us. Andy’s different class”.
Were they at the same game???
This mutual backslapping is ridiculous. It’s an exclusive club down the Mol, these days.
I’m all for togetherness and solidarity, but comments like that just takes the p*ss. Do they think we’re all blind???
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yes keogh did not play well,but the reason we drew was the fault of the defence,goalkeeper&manager.why pay 2.5 million for a defendor and leave him out alltogethor;norwich should not of been such a difficult debut for the player!.Just imagine what a good premier team would of done to us last night,and where was our leader on the pitch last night(carl henry not the answer);another paul ince required!!!!!!
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Keogh is a luxury for Wolves. His ideal position is behind a front 2, as he lacks confidence and finishing prowess in front of goal.
As much as I think MM has done a great job, his stubborness could cost us. Keogh and Collins are at best players to come off the bench. What is the betting that Keogh plays from the off at Coventry – a must win game!
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Karl Henry was worse then Keogh last night why is he still in team?
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Joshie 69 Wolves – I heard no booing from the North bank or South Bank! Infact if it wasnt for these people it be the quietest ground in the world!
I heard booing of Norwich players when we was 3-2 up and at the end of the game I heard a handful, from the BILLY WRIGHT!
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Too many poor performances last night – Hennessey, the defence, Kites, Henry and Keogh. Changes must be made on Saturday. If we had Ikeme fit he should be brought back in. Berra for Craddock. Quashie for Henry. Reid for Kites and finally Iwelumo or Vokes for Keogh. Too many are in a comfort zone and must be dropped.
Wolves shall overcome. Promotion at the Blues game is the target!
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It’s all very simple. SEB and Vokes to start.
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forget lay off keogh, putting a shift in without the required quality will achieve nothing. Hence the more we see keogh & collins the worse things get.
The bottom line is they aren’t good enough so ship em out. If mad mick can’t see the truth then he can go now!
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92,
Did you ever see McCarthy play????
He would slot into our back 4 just nicely, especially last night.
He was cr*p, no wonder we defend like we do!!!!
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54 Spot Koegh is an affective impact player,but not a 90 minuete player…simple!
we are wolves
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ADVICE TO ALL WOLVES FANS… as shown on Martin’s Money Tips… Beat the recession by always placing a £5 bet on ex players scoring against Wolves! Wo next????? FREDDY, FREDDY FREDDY!!!!!!
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Welcome to Wolverhampton, Mr.Berra. I presume you now understand your task.
The Keogh thing is proving a smokescreen for our real woes – nameley a midfield which lost it’s spark and grip on games about two months ago and a defensive unit that has leaked bucket-loads of goals since Christmas.
On the striker issue, I personally think Mick should have kept faith with Iwelumo and played him back into form, but equally what more does Sam Vokes have to do to start a game?
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Sorry forgot to ask this-does any one know why norwich fans were sittin in my christmas present(season ticket).Surely a full south bank(jack harris)can be more intimating to the opposition.
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Every Wolves fan wants Keogh to do well but lets face it he,s just not good enough.It was just sheer relief when MM bought him last night
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There is now doubting Keogh’s potential but he is being knocked down rather than being built up by the supporters. He is good enough, and I would suggest a few sessions with a sports psychologist and a natural finisher (Bully?)to make him the player he can be. Top teams use this approach, why not us?
Keep the faith!
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he might run his socks off but he contributes nothing, he jumps for balls just for the sake of it and never wns anything, sorry but its time he was dropped, iwelumo was dropped for not preforming so whatis the difference
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Indeed, when asked after the match whether the crowd’s growing disenchantment with Keogh was the reason for his substitution, the Wolves manager snapped back: “Was it ’eck – it nearly made me keep him on.”
Sums the guy up! Rather prove a point to the fans than win the game! Thats what a promotion winning manager is all about!
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Josh 69 wolves- didn’t hear any booing in the North Bank, and certainly I diodn’t boo Keogh, but it is so dificult not to groan and comment when a player misses so many gilt edged opportunities.
Perhaps it is time for Keogh to have a run in reserves, build up his confidence again?
I don’t think we have played well since Burnley at home.
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i personally am disgusted by the way keogh is treated!!
i usually sit in the south bank but last night i moved to the steve bull due to the away fans being where i normally sit!!
i was apalled by the way keogh was booed & laid into! hes one of our lads & these same morons booing him were the same 1s cheering his goal on saturday against watford!!!
for once i was actually ashamed of the way a lot of our fans behaved towards one of our own!! keogh is a hardworking player & does not deserve the treatment he has been getting.
hes not the most natural goal scorer but he works hard & creates chances – even when playing out of position!! LAY OFF HIM!!!!
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i have been watching wolves for many years and as a season ticket holder (southbank) i feel wolves fans are quite forgiving and appreciative however we are not stupid!! The weak links in the team are clear to most of us, execept the man that matters, keogh, collins simply not good enough at this level. if a was sam vokes i would be very p****d off, thinking what have i gota do to get in the side (similar to mark davies maybe?) in my opinion hennesey should be dropped and this higgs should be bought in. if you are a centre half you need a keeper who can communicate and command, after all the goalkeeper is the only one who can see everything!. Karl henry is 100% commited and i dont doubt his desire but sorry we need someone in there who is QUALITY and can create and be the focal point of our team. all the play should go through this person. we are not comfortable in possesion and i feel norwich passed the ball around better than us last night.
question ” Will mick persit in playing collins, Keogh IF we go up?”
because just putting a shift in at that level will not keep you up
i fear some of the players are getting fed up and disheartened by some of micks decsions, i just hope this will noy cost us!!!
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for some reason my last post appeared twice – some of you people here want to question your loyalty to the club! if you are a true fan dont boo & slag off any of your players!! of course every1 is entitled to an opinion but save it for the pub afterwards! gettin on their backs & booing is not going to help. if we are serious about promotion we need to support all of our players & give them encouragement. if you had to walk out to 21000 + to do your job you wud feel the pressure if people were being negative about you! theres no need for it & it doesnt help!!
get behind all the boys – accept they are not going to be perfect all of the time & keep faith that they have got this far through the season at the top & believe they can finish th season the way it started!!!!!
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Being a football supporter is all about opinions – I understand that. I wholeheartedly agree with some views expressed on here and vehemently disagree with others. Such is life. But why do people have to be so insulting and disrespectful to one another or indeed when talking about a player who, like the rest of us, can only ever do his best? How is this helping us to pull together and move forward together to achieve the goal that we all long for? How does destroying a player make him or the team better? How can treating another human being so shamefully ever be acceptable or helpful? When will we ever learn to give players time and support before we condemn them as being “not good enough”? How many players “fail” at Wolves only to go on and make half decent careers for themselves elsewhere? But, hey, we’re always right aren’t we? It’s never our fault.
For the record, I like Keogh. I know that that statement renders my opinion and my previous comments worthless in the eyes of some. I know that some of you are already thinking “muppet” – the most overused word on this board – but so be it, I like him. I accept that his shooting often isn’t good enough and that sometimes he (like every player) makes some poor choices but, all things considered, I like what he brings to the team. I like the way that, when playing with confidence, he draws other players into games. I think Kites is a better player with Keogh in the side, for example, so too SEB. But the key word here is “confidence” and how’s he ever going to regain it if he reads the comments on here?
Hold your opinions – we’re all entitled to do that, but let’s treat one another and our players/manager with respect shall we? It’s the very least we all deserve. It’s true that footballers earn more than we do. It’s true that if we make mistakes in our work we’ll be held accountable for them. But not many of us have 20+ thousand people who think they’re our bosses, screaming down our necks when we do slip up. Cut Mick and the boys – and Keogh and Collins in particular – some slack, eh? Remember the effect of our positive response to the six goal home defeat to Southampton a couple of seasons back? Isn’t there something we can and should learn from that?
Sermon over. I’ve got down from my soapbox.
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Andy Keogh – part of an attack that scores 6 goals in 2 games.
What would shut some of you fools up?
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10 – Totally agree, why can’t we have Keogh in a holding role instead of playing as a striker? just sitting behind the front 2, diamond formation in midfield then with Henry sitting in front of the defence, it would help both sides, fans would get off Keogh’s back and the defence would surely benefit, conceding 8 goals against Norwich in 2 games is baddd, first goal shouldn’t have stood cos there was a blatant foul on 1 of our players in midfield which everyone in the ground saw apart from that blind ref who might i add was another complete joke of an official lol he nearly gave a goal kick off Blakes shot near the end which would’ve won the game if it had gone in! crazy game, Vokes + SEB up front with Keogh just behind them picking up any scraps, the score could’ve been anything last night to be honest lol what a rollercoaster of a match, 2-1 down and looking glum, then suddenly 3-2 up and the ground was rocking, then Norwich have 1 corner in the game and they score off it lol this is the life of being a Wolves fan for ya!
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96 – Pricelaess example of how naive some of you ’supporters’ are. Henry performs a vital role for the team, but because he doesn’t score or create a ton of goals, people think he’s had a bad game or is a bad player.
Yes, he passes the ball sideways, TO GIVE SERVICE TO OUR CREATE WIDE PLAYERS!!
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I saw Des Walker play his first match for Notts Forest against Man City as a 19 year old and I predicted he would play for England.
Most Wolves fans – like myself – predicted the same for Lescott.
Some players you just know have that something extra called “class” which you know when you see it. Davies will play for England and since he’s captained an England representative side before, it’s fair to say he could do so again!
No-one truly knows the story of his departure but if MM had treated him with half the deference that Ward, Collins and Keogh have received, he’d now be a Wolves player and shoring up our highly suspect midfield!
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3 spot on i was thinking to myself exactly the same thing . but maybe he thinks more of vokes than we give him credit for?
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All I can say is there not fans if they have to boo the lad. Hes only 22 and still learning the game, if you can get behind your players then dont turn up, I want every boo to be drowned out by a Keogh cheer, come on lads/ladies, make it happen.
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Higgs can’t get a game at Cheltenham – he’s a last gap fill in in case have an injury during a game just one notch above an outfield player going in goal. If you want Hennessey to follow Davies out the door then drop him for Higgs – honestly – I really have to wonder what some of you are on!!
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telfordwolves – agree wholeheartedly! See IanTheLichfieldWolf too who knows our woes!
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Keogh needs confidence and to complete lots of work on his technique. He often gets into scoring positions but then tends to fail because he expects to. He is a major contributor to the team, he gets the ball, he puts himself about and takes a load from the other players.
I would tend to loan him out to a league (1) side so he can get a hatful of goals and boost his confidence. I do not think he should be first choice in the team at the moment and I think Vokes is the guy to persevere with. he too adds a lot more than goals to the team but I feel he is a possible 20+ goals a season man.
However I would never be so pathetic as to boo Keogh or condemn MM for playing him. Unlike many of the posters here, I do not think I know more about football than Mick does and I trust him to do the right and sensible thing. If you don’t trust him then go away until Mick leaves. Lets ALL act like supporters and not wretched little kids who cannot take disappointment.
However I must say our defending last night was awful BUT WE STILL GOT A POINT. In previous years we wouldn’t have…am I right??
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I dont for 1 minute believe keogh does’nt have the skill heart or desire to play at this level what i do believe is that mad mick has handled the situation very badly resulting in the lad taking the brunt of the fans criticism and losing all confidence.mick’s stubborness as resulted in the fans turning on one of there own witch for a supposedly players manager is unforgivable.lets get behind any player that pulls on the old gold an black and wash our dirty washing at the end of the season. c-mon the wolves
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I was going to write a long diatribe on How it all works but 1, I’m a bit busy and 2, I’m not sure it would have read as well as this:
WolfmanJack said: Feb 4th, 2009 at 1:27 pm Been going to Wolves since 1967 – lived and worked all around the world but always kept my season ticket and travel home to as many games as possible.
Managers have come and gone, players have come and gone, the board has come and gone but we fans remain the constant. Our biggest challenge to progressing is a minority of our supporters who feel they are “owed” lots of success by “the club” whatever that is. Let me tell you that like all football fans around the world we are owed exactly nothing. No one makes us go – we choose to go – and with the one execption of Bully – we have been and are represented on the field by professionals who owe you and me nothing. They get paid – they do their best – they move on – full stop!
When oh when are you moaners going to realise that getting on any players backs during a game is the best weapon our opponents have? It causes players not to do the right thing (not shoot or cross the ball)and I know for a fact that many many managers pre-match talk at Molineux is to try to get our fans to turn on our team and their chances of a result go way up.
Was once told by a former Wolves winger that if his first cross of the game wasn’t perfect he didn’t want to try another cos he knew how much stick he was going to get for the rest of the game…. sound familiar?
If you want to go up this year cheer as loud as you can for 90 minutes – if not you’ll most likely get what you deserve! Your choice that one – not the players or managers or directors!
WELL SAID WOLFMANJACK!
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We scored 3 goals last night with Keogh playing as a forward. We also let in 3 stupid goals. Keogh was not playing in defence, so how come he his the scapegoat for the result last night. If he is dropped for saturday, and Collins does not play, who are you going to boo, Ebanks blake
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post 3 your adsolutely spot on,..people cheering Keogh coming off was directed a McCarthy for finally making a decision,.. Keogh had a very off night and should have been replaced earlier we could all see that apart from McCarthy. and his compempt towards the fans will be his undoing.
Mark my words McCarthy’s stubborn streak will ruin this promotion,..the trouble now is that we need that bit of class from a manager to make decisions at the right times to steer us from this sticky patch and im afraid i dont think it will be McCarthy. I knew before the match Berra wouldnt even be in squad,..thats McCarthy all over, we have an ineffective midfielder in Henry, but he will never be dropped as McCarthy hides him behind the armband…just my thoughts.
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MM has to understand that with the role he plays Andy Keogh in there is an expectation that goals will come and when week after week they do not the fans understandably get frustrated.It does not help when a winger gets injured and there is a winger on the bench that he moves Keogh to the wing.Very odd.
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Top of the championship and still you lot moan and groan. Call yourself supporters ? This is the best position we have been in for years. No team can win them all.
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113..lisa
will you boooooo end of season when we dont get up???
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110:sorry mate i met north bank and steve bull and i sit in the south bank and to be onest when we have them family 4 fun days i have to sit in the steve bull upper and i have heard the booing and people keep sayin o he is rubish. and last night i was sat in the steve bull lower because the norwich fans and i was closer to the north bank and as soon as he made a mistake the were people shouting at him and booing him i have heard that myself and im south bank and we hardley ever boo a player
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keogh is not the only one that needs to be drop true he puts a shift in but he,s lack of confidnce in front of goallike all of them to put there laces through the ball and have a shot is so laughable i just can,t belive how many goals we have scored.i wished that MM kept davies and let go henry he gives the ball awaytoo many times and too often ok he trys to get the ball back but like lastnight a needless booking but there again davies had a run in with MM thats why davies never played again MM needs to put the team ,fans ,club first before him selftrying to prove a point .the only way he can do that is to get the team playing defence defending and stop letting stuip goals in hennenssey to start talking to his defence and his midfield and strikers start having shots on goal STOP MESSING AROUND THE BOX SHOOT SHOOT all of this is drummed in to the infence school teams , have they just forgot the or do they think that they are better than what they are yes i am still behind the lads
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kiwi wolf (130) i dont go to games to boo my team! if we dont go up of course i will be disappointed but what will booing them acheive??
steve (126) someone talking some sense on here!!
i see not all the fans are of the same mindless mentality that booing a player is bad for morale!!!!
our lads are doing the best that they can – we cant ask for a lot more than that!
ok admittedly the defending was poor – but i dont see any comments on here slating stearman for his poor performance giving away their 1st goal, or anyone really saying that hennessey should or could have done better?
why take it out on keogh? he didnt ask to be moved from his position – how many of us could move to a completely different job & perform at 100%??
it appears that a few wolves fans have already got ahead of themselves & reacting as though we have already won this league – yes we need to do better but this is the team as a whole.
how is singling out 1 player going to affect the rest of the team – all it will do is cause disruption & result in players having to speak out publicly to the press to defend their team mates!!
if people want to boo i suggest you keep away the rest of the season – supporters are there to SUPPORT funnily enough not to demoralise select individuals!! could any of you do any better????
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I agree the stupid so called ‘fans’ should pack it in, its gonna help anyone!!
Fans are meant to suppoert the team not boo them, Keogh is a great player! The more booing the less likely he is to take pride in playing for us and not play to his full potential!
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kiwi wolf – i dont go to my teams games to boo them!!
obviously i would be disappointed but booing them would not acheive anything!!
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im ashamed to be a wolves fan booing players its not going to do the lad any good
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no118 Molly Knew Mick, Agree 100%.We also knew Robbie Keane was going to be a star. The bottem line with Keogh is whatever Tery Connor and the others are doing to improve his finishing isn’t working.The guy is supposed to be a striker.I would never boo,but what are you supposed to do when somone misses 4 reasonable chances:applaud him.Keogh should have gone to Leicester on loan and Davies should have stayed.If we mess up in May and Davies stars in the Premier, we will be a national laughing stock again.
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Keogh is not the best player i agree and should not be in the starting line up, but we should blame our shocking defence week in week out strikers put us in a healthy poistion then the defence are so clumbsy and let the side down. but thats down to MM not picking the right players back there. Collins is S**T so is Craddock, Berra been playing for hearts all season but not fit enough to play what a complete and utter joke. our defending is the worse i have seen in the league we just ball watch, mick call me up and i will show you how to defend.
regards
rich
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114 Timmis Lots of points i totally agree with and have always said that we should be able to put our opinion(s)without being called stupid names (Muppet)etc. However i must say that i agree with a lot of the posts who’s main concern is MM playing certain favourites no matter how poor their form and this is detrimental to the team.Yes we are TOP Yes we are 7 clear of Brum but our current form 7 out of 21 is worrying and i most certainly believe that Berra should have at least made the bench last night.2 away games now that could make or break our season.Come on Wolves dont blow it now.
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@81 Wolfman Jack
@125 Prawn Sandwich
Spot on. It’s called the big picture people. Could anyone on here honestly say that if they were offered this position at the start of the season that they would be unhappy with it? Would anyone on here not have taken a deal at the start of the season that if we were top in February that they would have to cheer the team? We’ve no right to get promotion and if it does happen then congrats to every Wolves player and the management – you will have done the Wolves proud.
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Mick stop blaming the crowd and accept that he is not doing his job. We can all see that Keogh is stuggling, his body language is wrong and he looks to have no confidence. How do we expect him to score goals.
Come on Mick accept that the job of giving Keogh confidence is yours and stop blaming supporters for not supporting him.
It’s about time Andy Keogh began playing like he did when he first came.
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Micks Quote “Andy’s different class – he works his shift”
Says it all.
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Shamrock wolf
you are talking garbage, Keogh was signed to
score goals period. If you was to coach him
24/7 for the next two years he will not make it
at this level. Also scoring more goals than
the opposition,wins match.s he had 4 chances last night. Get back to kicking a hockey ball
and hitting it with a stick!
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I don’t think Keogh should have been given stick last night. I thought he did OK and we play better with him in the team. He might not score many goals but his runs create space. KEOGH KEOGH KEOGH! Chin up lad.
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starting 11 vs coventry ikeme,foley,berra.stearman,craddock,reid,jarvis,quashie,kightly if available if not jones,ebanks,vokes SUBS IF NOT KEOGH,WARD,HENNESAY,IWELUMO,COLLINS,TRY IT MICK. I DARE YOU.U GOT WIDTH, HEIGHT AT BACK, PLAY VOKES MICK,WE DONT WANT ANOTHER EASTWOOD,DROPPED NEVER TO PLAY AGAIN,VOKES WILL LEAVE IF NOT PLAYING,KEOGH IS GREAT BUT MICK AS YOU SAY THIS IS A RESULT BUSINESS,IF IT FAILS REVERT BACK TO ANOTHER SYSTEM
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Keep your head up Keogh,and the rest of the players. Your doing us proud every time you step out on the pitch. Like yourselves we get caught up in the frustration and no one’s perfect but for sure nothing is impossible or un-obtainable, but things can get very difficult. I am right behind you. See you at Coventry.
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Leave keogh alone he is a player of the future its idiot mick who is getting the lad a bad name he should look at some of his other players who are not good enough for this league never mind the premier, keogh in time will make his mark.
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ffs lay off keogh and mick we will go up and who do u think should be manager no good people so get behind the team and sing all the way to the prem!!!!! up the wolves and well done
blakey
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Eddie, where are you when Andy needs you? There seem to be a lot of people here who know nothing about football!
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Andy keogh isnt good enough at this level and with promotion at stake we need players to show their steel now, if your a striker then you go for goal andy mutch was a good foil for bully we all know that but if andy mutch had a chance he took it keogh is a young lad but someone needs to instill that bit of ruthlesness sure make the passes if you are marked but when you have pace like keogh has just hit it low and hard work the keeper we have the poacher in seb i,d love keogh to start scoring but until he doe,s and starts showing all the fans his metal i,m afraid people will get on his back
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lets call jon de wolf bet he cud do a fine job at the back where are the keith curles or paul butlers or dean richards,lee naylor,lescotts at the back gone we need a commanding figure
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Give me some boots and an old gold shirt, stick me in the starting eleven, pay me £10k a week and i’ll show you commitment, i’ll show you hard work, i’ll give you 10000%, i’ll also give you a pile of pap cos’ I too am tosh at football!
I know I ain’t good enough to play but nobody could ever doubt my commitment or willingness to work for the team! The arguements for having Keogh in the team just don’t add up because these qualities so wonderfully articulated by our players and manager do not make for a good player!
Sorry get him out of the side and send him back to Sunny Scunny!
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Shit it really is time to lay off all the players in the team. We need to get behind them as confidence is a contagious disease which will hopefully take us to the big time league. I have supported and followed the wolves for 45 of my 50 years both in Wednesbury and now in Australia and i have never known a bigger bunch of ficcle supporters in my life, this includes aussie rules fans down here. Again get behind all the team you know it makes sense.
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Sorry that should have said fickle not ficcle. Agaiun go you Wolves.
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i am a season ticket holder in the southbank and i didn’t hear any booing last night and i for one along with most of the southbank applauded him and sang his name,however there were a few ironic cheers when keough was subbed but to be honest though he looks like a rabbit in the headlights at the moment, he doesnt seem to want to take anyone on or shoot when presented with good opportunities,looks bereft of any confidence and should of been subbed earlier. when kites was subbed why did mick not bring reid on (like for like)instead he brought vokes on and switched keough to the wing,for me vokes should be starting ahead of keough as he is more of a natural goalscorer and deserves his place on merit not because he’s one of micks favourites.and why has iwelumo been banished to the bench?our second top goalscorer doesn’t seem to be getting a look in.come on mick lets not go back to the poor decisions of last season square pegs in round holes again!
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I’m not Andy Keogh’s biggest fan a must admit, i think i forwards role is to score goals, just like a Goalkeepers roal is to stop them.
HOWEVER if he wears the shirt he gets my support for at least the time he’s on the pitch. NO BOO’S !!!
Also it’s Mick who picks the team, and i quote from MICK “Judge at the END OF THE SEASON”
So IF his stubborness causes us to miss out then i’ll be there outside the Mol to give his an ear bashing !!
And IF it gets up to the prem, then i will happilly kiss his backside !!
But we will see mick, at the END OF THE SEASON
till then GET BEHIND ME BABIES !!!!!!!!!!
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I booed Keogh, and if he plays like that next time i’ll boo him again…he was second in the air, second on the ball and his finishing was atrocious, its not all Keoghs fault though, if he wasn’t forced to play out of position maybe he’d be the quality player we brought in 2007!
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Scoring three goals should win a game. If Hennesey would leave his goal line now and again we may not be conceding so many. That’s not Keogh’s fault. Pity we couldn’t have brought on Mark Davies to bolster the midfield.
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Spoke to a friend of mine who’s Rangers fan he’s gutted weve got Berra,they wanted him but are skint!He reckons he is quality and weve done well to get him.So coupled with Vokes starting ahead of Keogh things should be better on saturday- i hope.Then again maybe MM will put Berra up front!
We are Wolves
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Personally i feel the defence needs alot more critisism than Andy Keogh.
And in response to playing his best team i sincerly think he did n ill be honest vokes played for a good 50 minutes and he wasnt really spectacular.
i actually believe he’s got more potential than any player at wolves to be a top player bar kevin foley! but chucking a kid on at the molineux is a dangerous thing as lets face it theres alot of fickle fans and before you know it they’ll he’ll be getting grief if he doesnt perform and if he’s confidence goes he may never get it back at his age!
The simple fact of the matter is tho that he should of brought Reid on and not vokes and this was clear to see when keogh turned to the bench when we had a corner just after the sub and he didnt know where to position himself as he’s not a winger!
Micks got to get his discisions right and i think after the defence he’s got to be accountable as the attacking line (keogh included) scored 3 goals!!!
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Glad to see the posts are getting a bit more balanced now that the anger of Tuesday night is subsiding. Can we continue to have our say without resorting to childish name-calling? Thanks.
Sorry, but I don’t see Keogh ever becoming a ‘great’ player. After 2 yrs, he’s barely progressed. Had he got GENUINE ability, it would have shown by now, irrespective of the ‘pressure’ applied by playing for such a huge club.
I know confidence (or lack of) can have an effect, but watch closely and you’ll see that even the basics often elude him. Andy strikes me as a good, honest, hardworking, likeable fellah…but he hasn’t got it and no amount of sympathy or feeling sorry for him will change that. We’d all love him to be a hit, me included, but face facts: the lad’s limited in his ability and has no stregth whatsoever. A centre-half merely breaking wind would probably blow him into Row Z.
Sorry to say, but some of you good people have become so accustomed to ‘ordinary’ players over the past few years that you’re content to settle for second best. We CANNOT afford that luxury if we’re deadly serious about not only promotion, but stabilising in the Premiership, too. If Andy can’t cut THIS league, he’d be trodden into the dust in the Prem…and that goes for one or two more, as well.
Andy is well paid to do a job. Yes, a JOB. Footballers are mercenaries these days, so let’s cut out the sentimental crap, shall we? It all boils down to whether a player is up to the job in hand or not. If he isn’t, then get rid. Simple as that.
Save your tears for the real ‘victims’ of failure: the long-suffering fans.
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I just don’t understand it we are a championship team not a premier team, it is simply not possible to have 11 top quality individuals on the pitch at our standard. However we do have more than most that is why “WE ARE TOP OF THE LEAGUE” Why I have to stand at home matches and hear my own supporters jeer, boo and ridicule our own is beyond me. I agree Keough and collins are not good enough for the prem, but their not in the prem. Both these players have not developed in the same manner as their peers but their triers you can’t accuse either of not giving it their all. As supporters we have a choice press the destruct button as we are doing and watch it all collapse or accept these individuals and get on with. For all you anti collins/keough/henry fans get behind your team for the next two months stop the negativity or just stop away. Whichever you choose lets just unite our supporters and become the 12th man in stead of having to play at Molineux a couple of men down
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As Mr Swain wrote “confidence now looks ‘shot.’ His inability to make anything from four moments of goalscoring potential led to an uneasy 80 minutes for the Irish forward before he was substituted” to me the simple solution is to send the guy out on loan for amonth or two to get that confidence back. All we must remember is that Andy Keogh was never a prolific goalscorer, he is more a provider.
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162. Totally agree. We must ALL stick together in order to get over that finishing line. Whinge to your heart’s content on here, but back EVERY player during the game.
I know which players I like and don’t like, but I back them to the hilt UNTIL the game ends, then I have my say.
Just a thought, but maybe some fans are genuinely worried about backing the likes of Keogh and Collins? Perhaps they think Mick will see it as an endorsement of his team selection, therefore he’s far more likely to play them?
There’s no need to be concerned if that’s the case, because it will have no effect. Mick does exactly what HE WANTS and listens to absolutely NOBODY. He’d play his favourites even if they had to use crutches. ;-)
Let’s back the club all the way as we should do. At the end of the day, Mick will live or die by our results. He wants to be judged by season’s end…and he WILL be.
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Lets face it Wolves fan’s favouritism has always existed in all sports thats a fact. What I will say however Mr McCarthy takes it to the extreme.
I honestly believe, having worked with Yorkshire folk and having a good friend who is a Black Cat fanatic (he was the same at Sunderland) he will not change his ways. With the stubborn attitude he continually adopts if and it is a big IF Wolves get to the premier league they will come straight back down. Wolves have a squad consisting of some good championship players some average and some awful, but not one premiership standard. Look at Sunderland now only ONE of McCarthy’s men exist there, and we know what he is like. We did have one premiership player but look what he did to him!!!
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165. Yes, and it’s this stubborness you talk about that causes so much friction and anger among our fans. Keogh’s seen as a scapegoat, but underneath it all I think a lot of the animosity is directed at McCarthy because we can SEE who is struggling and who isn’t.
That’s the key, for me.
I wouldn’t respect any Wolves manager who allowed the fans to dictate who should or shouldn’t be playing. However, when it’s as plain as your backside that a player’s out of sorts and is HINDERING our chances of victory, it really angers certain supporters when he sticks with them.
Mick needs to remember that WINNING the game is the priority and NOT putting his personal agenda FIRST. Playing his ‘favourites’ merely invites the natives to become restless, then angry, then abusive.
Our fans get constant criticism (directly and indirectly) from McCarthy, yet he’s often the one responsible in the first place. Personally, I get heartily sick of our fanbase being the easy target for the critics. Our club should count their lucky stars that they have some of the most loyal, devoted fans in England.
Mick will eventually take us for granted one time too many. You can count on that.
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166.You have hit the nail directly on the head. However I am afraid you only have to look at the time he was the manager of Ireland to see what his mind set is. I think a Winston Churchill quote sums it up when he said ” The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes”
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I should have added: and Mr MCCarthy thinks all Wolves fans are fools.
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Ye olde South bank posted:
“Mick needs to remember that WINNING the game is the priority and NOT putting his personal agenda FIRST. Playing his ‘favourites’ merely invites the natives to become restless, then angry, then abusive”
The facts are that MM has assembled a young, very exciting mostly British squad of players the like of which I haven’t seen at Molineux in living memory. Despite the inexperience of the squad we are 5 points clear in the league and in a 2 from 3 run-in for automatic promotion against two teams who have much much more “premisership experience” than our youngsters. Personally I haven’t looked forward to Wolves games as much as I do this season for a long long time. Two real wingers, great strikers, midfielders who can score goals, an outstanding keeper etc etc. I fail to see how any Wolves fan can have a miserable time watching that lot!
Every manager has their “favourites” at any one time. That’s their job and what they’re paid for. If we don’t accept that we might has well get rid of the manager entirely – maybe we could have an on-line fans vote on Friday nights to pick the team for Saturday? Chaos? Probably!
There’s not a supporter in the land that agrees with all selections of their manager at any one time – we all have opinions on players and formations – but you can’t judge a manager on wheteher he picks OUR favourite players – you have to judge him on RESULTS and for one I think our results this season speak for themselves. You may not like MM, you may not like his attitude, you might not like his team selection but he’s doing the job he’s paid to do and in my book he’s doing it pretty well so far this season….
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167. That’s a great, famous quote, mate, and I take your point. In Mick’s case, fool or not, he thinks he’s right ALL the time, and that’s the trouble.
Smart people recognise, then learn from their own mistakes. In Mick’s case, he can’t accept that he’s as error-prone as the rest of us. No wonder he winds me -and others- up at times.
If I had to bet whether Keogh starts against Coventry, I’d say the smart money would be on ‘YES’. It’s obvious that the lad needs to be taken out of the firing line, but if Mick thinks he can send another message of defiance to the fans, I think he will.
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169. Don’t misunderstand me: despite my occasional annoyance at Mick, I appreciate the hard work he’s put in AND the mostly-British squad assembled. I applaud that stance and even encourage it, as I do his 4-4-2 formation with genuine wing play. That’s the Wolves tradition and long may it continue.
My comment about his ‘favourites’ refers (mostly) to his tendency of either:
(a) Refusing to sub a player who’s CLEARLY struggling (Keogh, Tuesday evening, for example)
(b) Finding a slot in the team for his favourites, irrespective of the common sense approach (two examples: firstly, Keogh on the WING, again on Tuesday evening. Secondly, playing the error-prone Neil Collins when we’d already paid £1m for a barely-used Jason Shackell. How do we assess this boy unless he gets a run of games, ffs?)
You’ll note that I DID SAY that I would NOT respect any Wolves boss who allowed fan pressure to pick his team for him. However, there’s a difference between the manager showing common sense and showing downright EXCESSIVE, OTT favouritism (a point made by West Brom WHO! that I fully agree with).
I don’t question McCarthy’s loyalty to his players (it is be applauded), but sometimes such ‘loyalty’ can go way too far…and that, to my mind, could ultimately prove to be Mick’s undoing.
More unfortunately, it could be OURS.
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170.Another old quote is “The person that never made a mistake never made anything” But I don’e even think he understands that one either.
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172. Yet another is:
“It’s better to be thought a fool than open one’s mouth and remove all doubt”
Mick’s said that Keogh and Collins have been ‘excellent’ as well as ‘different class’.
I rest my case. ;-)
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hmmm… seems to me a few games out of the first team may take a little heat of the lad at the moment. give him a few subs appearances when we’re 2, 3 goals to the good when we’re in full flow and see if we can build his confidence back up. ’cause when he does relax a little more, and he’s not so stressed and giving himself a hard time about his performances, i reckon’ we’ll see a whole different player. imagine if he could make the right decision when it comes to finishing. we’d be looking at a, at least, 15 goal a year man.
in the meantime though, please Mick, if we’re going to do our bit, you have to do yours and play the best team fullstop. like wingers on the wing. and maybe drop Collins to the bench… i think he’d be a useful sub. it’s your decision at the end of the day, you’re the manager (a damn good one i always thought, even in your ROI days), just don’t let personal pride come into the way of making decisions. this isn’t an ‘us and them’ situation, we are the Wolves, full stop. so make your choices, all good Wolves fans will back you up on them. as far as this season goes, there is only one goal, and that’s not finishing any lower than second.
C’MON THE WOLVES!!!!
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we are going up , to all those who believe were gonna struggle in the premiership , i dont think so ,were not gonna have the same team line up , and ill say it again for those who didnt understand me the first time THE MANAGER PICKS THE TEAM. not the fans.collins hasnt played last two games conceded 4 , wonder who you gonna blame?? make me laugh , so called supporters .
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173. Finally. As Groucho Marks said. He may look like an idiot,talk like an idiot but dont’ let that fool you. He really is an idiot.
I rest mine also!!!
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Although failing last summer with McLean and the insane antics of Barry Fry it is obvious we still need a quality striker alongside SEB. Disappointed, considering our precarious lead at the top we did not go after Fryatt from Leicester on a part exchange with Keogh or Iwelumo.
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Anyone who says Keogh works and runs his socks off doesn’t realise that high work ethic didn’t get Michael Branch anywhere, you got to have the ability too and Keogh doesn’t have enough ability.
He’s too selfless, he lacks conviction in front of goal, he doesn’t possess the attributes of a winger, he doesn’t take on the defender, he either passes into centre or back to the full-back.
Altogether he isn’t good enough but that’s my opinion and that means squat to MM.
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Can all you muppets please answer this question for me as you know so much more than a professional football league(ex Premiership and International) manager.
1. How exactly is MM ruining Andy Keogh? If anything he is improving him as a player by giving him match time. MM would be ruining AK by leaving him on the bench or dumping him in the reserves.
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come on MM are you in this for wolves or are you just looking after yourself and your signings. We are mostly greatful that you have put us in the current postion. But keogh is not in form at the moment. lets see if he plays at COV.
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180…I agree,…Iwelumo after a little baron patch was straight out the team, even though he scored 15!,..Keogh has 4 for the whole season but has been given a lot more opportunities than most, Vokes has looked class last few games but still ends up on the bench,…il be a Cov like im at all the games, and ive no doubt Keogh will start as MM just dosnt like to “give in” to fan pressure.
My bigger concern is that we have a keeper in goal who is 6ft 6″ but wont leave his line and collect crosses, corners etc which is costing us goals.
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one definet change for the coventry game vokes in for keogh not question about it. also two other players who should come in are quashie and berra because are midfield are afraid to put a tackle in and the defence looked on the back foot tuesday night. keogh is a striker and a striker needs a good first touch. keogh does not have that and he also needs to work on his strength and tackling. also he is not a winger. when kightly came off MM should of put on reid instead of vokes then would of had winger on the wing not a striker on the wing. i know keogh is young and has got loads of years to go but mcarthy has given him so many chances he mus gethis head out of his arse and realise keogh is not good enough. it will be interestin to see what happens the sky blues on saturday.
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There is no denying Andy Keogh works hard, is determined and commited and I applaud him for that. What fans are getting annoyed about is we have a 15-goal scorer sitting on the bench yet we play a 2-goal scorer in the main team. We should be focusing on giving Chris the chance to get back to the standard he was at the start of the season.
Mick kept Keogh out for too long against Norwich when he should have been substituted alot sooner as he clearly was struggling after passing up all those chances. Sometimes, as with many sports, commitment and effort just isn’t enough when you have a player underperforming, especially if you’re holding on to the top of the league by the skin of your teeth. Plus when you’re paying between £400 and £500 to watch the games, fans want to be assured that the manager is putting the BEST possible team out, which just doesn’t seem to be happening with Mick right now. If we use the same team strategies and players in the PL we may aswell book our return ticket with Albion. I want to stop seeing Mick commenting on how he is angry with the ‘boo-boys’ and start taking steps forward, like getting Mancienne on side!
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179.Thats exactly how he ruined Mark Davies career.
Not even playing him or putting him on the bench.
Thank goodness Bolton (Chris Evans) had the sense to recognise talent. Tell me what did MM do in the Premiership or Internationally for that matter.NOTHING and he is going to achieve the same at Wolves wearing his rose tinted glasses. From a “muppet” semi pro footballer.
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Fans urged to lay off keogh – ok….how about…Keogh urged to play better or MM urged to play Vokes
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SPOT ON BIFFFO !!
its like some kind of mad world… being forced to applaud mistakes when the solution is glaringly obvious
PLAY VOKES YOU MADMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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179. With respect, I’d save those ‘muppets’ comments for rival fans and teams, not fellow fans. Just because Wolves fans disagree with each other it’s no licence for disrespect. We all have an opinion and are entitled to it. That’s what this board is for.
Incidentally, you clearly imply that fans who are critical of Keogh’s ability shouldn’t have the temerity to question ‘Super Mick’ because he’s the experienced, seasoned professional and everyone else isn’t.
That being the case, then I assume the same logic applies to yourself? That means you’re not in a position to ENDORSE Mick’s decisions, either. Flip side of same coin, mate.
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I can’t believe how many posts there are on this topic.Is this a record ?
If it ain’t………..
Keogh is not good enough…..
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187. Spot on again. My post makes exactly the same point possibly in a slightly different way. I will reiterate, unless Mr McCarth drastically changes his ways he will with or without Wolves win absolutely zilch.
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if a soldier came across the enemy and froze the enemy would kill him, keogh comes across a goal mouth and freezes, is he really up to the premier league standard
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